[01:35] <bkerensa> pleia2: Do you know who I e-mail about the E-mail Alias
 oh wait, actually it should only take a 24 hours from the time you get added to the launchpad group
 it runs on a cron job at like 2AM I think
[01:35] <pleia2> bkerensa: it can take up to 4 days
[01:35] <pleia2> it only runs a couple time a week
[01:35] <bkerensa> oh ok
[01:35] <bkerensa> :D
[01:36] <bkerensa> everyone had been telling me it was a 2am daily cron :D
[01:37] <pleia2> I've never heard of it being daily, it usually takes a few days for them to start working
[02:38] <jtatum> i suppose i need to apply at some point
[02:38] <jtatum> always feel like i didn't accomplish enough though :)
[02:47] <philipballew> jtatum, why do you not?
[02:48] <jtatum> why do i not accomplish enough? ;)
[02:48] <philipballew> haha
[05:18]  * bkerensa smiles
[05:18] <pleia2> from the drinky?
[05:18] <pleia2> :)
[05:19] <crashsystems> indeed
[05:40] <bkerensa> headache now
[05:40] <bkerensa> :(
[05:40]  * bkerensa better go to bed... release party tomorrow
[18:29] <bkerensa> pleia2: odd someone just randomly appeared =o
[18:29] <bkerensa> no idea who that is :P
[18:38] <pleia2> :)
[18:50] <BotenAnna> If an Ubuntu fork is not officially sanctioned by Shuttleworth... (self.Ubuntu)
[18:50] <BotenAnna> Can it be called "Non-Canonical"?
[18:51] <MarkDude> lol
[18:51] <MarkDude> BotenAnna, +1
[19:03] <pleia2> on a serious note it probably violates trademark, but we do have a not-canonical team on launchpad ;)
[19:03] <pleia2> "People who do not work for Canonical, but often get mistaken for someone who does."
[19:05] <MarkDude> Well as long as the trademarks are avoided- the code itself is licensed to be shared- I thought
[19:05] <pleia2> of course
[19:06] <pleia2> I was referring specifically to the name, which is what she asked about
[19:06] <MarkDude> Like say Mint, it is not official- although they do say where it originates from
[19:06] <pleia2> she wasn't asking about making a fork, she was asking about the name :P
[19:06] <MarkDude> oh, self.ubuntu?
[19:06] <pleia2> 11:50:47 < BotenAnna> Can it be called "Non-Canonical"?
[19:07] <pleia2> you probably would get in trouble for calling your distribution "Non-Canonical"
[19:07] <MarkDude> Canonical is not fully trademarkable - from my understanding
[19:07] <pleia2> of course, it's a dictionaryword
[19:07] <pleia2> try telling this to Apple :)
[19:08] <MarkDude> It was explained to me- this was a big reason to create a special licensed font for Ubuntu
[19:08] <pleia2> I don't think a computer company called "Non-apple" would last very long in court
[19:09] <pleia2> ubuntu and canonical are separate trademarks
[19:09] <MarkDude> Well not to be persnickety, but, if you wanted to BotenAnna - I would be willing to get some case law on why you most likely COULD use that name
[19:09] <MarkDude> :)
[19:10]  * MarkDude started out in college tryine to be a lawyer, but stopped due to the way it should be- and the way the law works are two entirely separate things at times
[19:10] <pleia2> sorry, I was just trying to play it safe in advice
[19:18] <MarkDude> Well of course pleia2 - you are well known for your common sense
[19:18]  * MarkDude is more known for pushing the envelope ;)
[19:18] <MarkDude> It was good advice
[19:19]  * MarkDude likes using the word *canonical* as much as possible with friends in Fedora
[19:19] <MarkDude> Cringeworthy-
[19:19]  * MarkDude kept asking if sumthin' was the canonical link for Beefy Miracle --- XD
[19:22] <akk> How many of them got the joke?
[19:23] <MarkDude> akk, most of them
[19:23]  * akk got a recruiter call about a job for "the company behind ubuntu linux" who seemed surprised when I knew the name canonical
[19:23] <MarkDude> lol
[19:23] <akk> but, you know ... headhunters
[19:23]  * MarkDude thinks FOSS should be one big happy family
[19:24] <MarkDude> Yep, headhunters are a trip
[19:24] <akk> This one was better than most, had the grace to sound embarrassed when I questioned her after she asked for a Word format resume.
[19:24]  * MarkDude has been pondering  the real Dark Side of the Force
[19:24] <akk> "Oh, yeah, I guess I should try to wean myself off that"
[19:24] <MarkDude> MS
[19:25]  * MarkDude wont think about Oracle offers, but have heard some good stuff about MS
[19:25]  * akk was reading about secure boot again this morning and getting angry
[19:25] <MarkDude> as far as evil corporations go
[19:25] <MarkDude> Well that would be one of the reason I ponder.....
[19:25] <akk> They just keep doing more antitrust violations since there's no one to hold them to the law.
[19:26] <MarkDude> Google may in next year
[19:26] <MarkDude> they are giving them enough rope to hang themself
[19:27] <MarkDude> The way they un-open sourced the last Android version gives them the ability to rip MS a new one
[19:27] <MarkDude> it may take a few years in court, but they can outspend them
[19:28] <MarkDude> IMHO
[19:30] <akk> Even if they do, antitrust lawsuits take, what, 6 years before there's a decision?
[19:38] <MarkDude> Yep
[19:39] <MarkDude> But MS keeps trying to do stuff like this
[19:39] <MarkDude> Hacktivists can keep it from happening
[19:39] <MarkDude> Anon caused Sony to mellow a bit
[19:41] <MarkDude> MS has not felt the mob in its full strength. YES, thats scary. If MS has shown one thing- they are pushy til they get pushback- then they get scared of another decade long lawsuit
[20:08]  * bkerensa begins packing the Release Party Swag Suitcase
[21:30] <MarkDude> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/olpc-san-francisco-community-summit-2011
[21:30] <MarkDude> Live now
[22:33] <bkerensa> Apparently OEMS are shipping UEFI laptops already that wont install Linux at all
[22:33] <bkerensa> I just got word that the HP s5-1110 has UEFI
[23:04] <MarkDude> Hmmm