/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/22/#ubuntustudio-devel.txt

ScottLrexbron_, did you see my email about ubuntustudio-nightly?02:04
acmeinc@holstein, this is Tim from the list.  You suggested I am around to freenode, here I am.04:36
stochastichey everyone06:47
ScottLhi stochastic !11:02
* ScottL is going to work now on saturday (and probably will be on sunday)11:02
knomeawwh :)11:17
scott-workTheMuso: i have made a blueprint for getting the -lowlatency kernel in the repos for precise-12.0412:44
scott-workis there any point to suggesting it for the sprint at uds-p if it depends on a decision at uds-p on the kernel version?12:45
scott-workgood morning (or afternoon) falktx  :)12:46
falktxhey there12:46
scott-workfalktx: would you like to do some more work on the lightdm theme?12:46
scott-worki'm not sure what xubuntu will be doing, but the ubuntu lightdm theme looks really nice and i want to steal it and make it better ;)12:46
falktxscott-work: depends on the 'when'12:46
falktxthe folling 2 weeks are going to be crazy for me12:47
scott-workfalktx: would several weeks by acceptable?12:47
falktxscott-work: yes, totally12:47
falktxI'm finally about to release Cadence12:47
scott-workfalktx: i don't think the tool chain is even supposed to be pushed until after uds12:47
scott-workfalktx: wow!  congratulations!12:47
falktxscott-work: when is it UDS btw?12:47
scott-workfirst week of november12:48
* scott-work is checking calander for tool chain12:48
scott-workwoah, i was really off on the tool chain, apparently it was scheduled for oct 20th12:49
scott-workfalktx: but several weeks from now is more than fine, i think we really need to make sure this is behind us by alpha1 which is dec 1st12:50
falktxyes, sure thing12:50
scott-workoustanding!12:52
falktxall apps seem to be working now, perfect for an alpha release12:56
falktxI do of course expect bugs12:56
scott-workcool, that is very exciting falktx 13:19
scott-worki really admire the way you create these apps :)13:19
scott-workhey falktx, i just thought of something13:26
scott-worklet me explain the backstory for a few lines then i'll ask the question13:26
falktxk13:27
scott-workubuntu studio is planning on moving towards a live dvd this cycle, but also include a process to allow users to select and install components during installing from a gui13:27
scott-workedubuntu does this...hold on a sec13:27
scott-workyou can see this in the right image on the first line, here:  http://edubuntu.org/documentation/11.04/installation-guide#Edubuntu_Options_and_Partitioning_13:28
scott-workthis would be similar to tasksel that we currently use13:29
scott-workhowever, it has been my thought for a while since starting the work flows that it would be nice to be able to manage these things similarly but after installation13:29
scott-workand my thought would be to use ubuntustudio-controls to allow users to simply add or remove work flows (i.e. their associated applications)13:30
scott-workuse case example:  i've already installed ubuntu studio and i didn't choose the 'podcast' component (or task) but now i want to do so13:31
scott-worki pick ubuntustudio-controsl (or whatever the app name ends up) and look at the 'work flows' tab and pick the radio button for 'podcast' and pick the 'install' button...viola, it grabs all the associated apps and installs them if not already on the computer13:32
scott-worksimilarly, i can remove a 'work flow' by unselected and hitting...hmmmm, i guess an 'install' button wasn't a good choice before, perhaps an 'apply' button...hitting the 'apply' button13:33
scott-workfalktx: does this make sense, do you think this may be something you could assist with next year?13:33
falktxscott-work: yes, it makes perfect sense13:34
falktxscott-work: does it matter if this is made in us-controls or I just add it to my Cadence app?13:34
scott-workfalktx: oh good, i've been thinking about these things for so long that i don't always express or explain it well :P13:34
scott-workfalktx: re: cadence, is cadence going to be in the repos so we can ship it?13:35
falktxsince it's pretty much near first release, I think it has more than time to hit debian13:35
scott-workfalktx, then i think that seems like a viable vector then :)13:36
falktxyep13:37
scott-workfalktx: i should point that currently we haven't even looked at the edubuntu stuff or considered how our seeds might change13:41
falktxscott-work: btw, I have made the US 11.10 live ISO13:42
falktxstill uploading though, and it looks like it's gonna take a while13:42
scott-worki'm not sure this part will happen before a month or two (i need to talk to shnatsel about this, but we may get the live dvd part first, then move to user install selection)13:42
scott-workfalktx: eh, did you fix the lightdm and icons for that?  i don't think your changes made it past the bzr branch from what i've seen13:43
scott-workbut i'm still curious to play with it and see how the performance compares13:43
falktxI forced the lightdm theme install13:43
falktxbut settings are still not set by default13:43
falktxit is done20:51
falktxhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudio/files/Live/UbuntuStudio-KR_11.10_32bit.iso/download20:51
knomehmm?20:51
falktxUbuntuStudio 11.10 Live DVD - KXStudio Remix20:52
knomewhat is kxstudio?20:52
falktxknome: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/20:52
knomeaha20:52
rlameirohey20:53
falktxrlameiro: hey20:53
falktxrlameiro: did you got my message?20:53
rlameirofalktx, axeling it20:54
rlameirofalktx, yeap20:54
rlameirobut dude, Lac is on the USA20:54
rlameiroIi dont have money to go to USA20:54
falktxme too20:54
falktxsadly20:54
falktxrlameiro: do you think they will sponser the presentators?20:54
rlameirodunno20:55
rlameiromaybe20:55
rlameiroyou could do one20:55
rlameiroI dont have nothing to present :D20:55
rlameirofalktx, do you know of any problem of jack and Firewire on natty?20:56
falktxI don't use firewire20:56
rlameiroI know20:56
falktxrlameiro: I actually have something very important to present20:56
rlameiroI cant connect it20:56
falktxthe whole Cadence tools20:56
rlameiroCadence?20:56
rlameiroyeap20:57
falktxlet me show an example20:57
rlameiroplus your new plugin project20:57
falktxhttp://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/screenshots/carla.png20:57
falktxyep, Carla that is20:57
rlameirodude i am now on kxstudio/ubuntustudio/xubuntu :D20:57
rlameiroI am using them20:57
falktxah, ok20:57
rlameirofar more eficient than KDE20:57
rlameirosorry20:57
falktxkxstudio != kDE20:58
falktxrlameiro: you haven't seen carla-control then20:58
falktxhehe, I really need a camera to show this to people20:58
rlameirofalktx, I was talking about http://distrho.sourceforge.net/20:58
falktxrlameiro: oh, that is nothing that big20:58
falktxI have other stuff to show, much cooler than that20:59
falktxbut new plugins are always nice, yes20:59
rlameiroi think i will try today the new kxstudio21:00
rlameiroif it doesnt work with firewire21:00
rlameiroI will go again to US 10.0421:00
falktxrlameiro: I think this is kernel related21:01
rlameiroI need to record that stuff for the OSMP album21:01
falktx11.10 should be the best bet right now21:01
falktxrlameiro: you can try the ISO and see if it works ;)21:01
rlameiromaybe, maybe some to do with jackdmp/jack1 v jack221:01
falktxmaybe21:02
rlameirois it live or just install21:02
falktxrlameiro: you can always try jack121:02
falktxrlameiro: that is a live-dvd21:02
rlameiroweeeee21:02
rlameirounetbootin here i go21:02
rlameirois very slow from sourceforge man21:03
falktxwait a few minutes21:03
falktxI just finished the upload21:03
rlameiroI am downloading at 700KB/s when I usually download at 3.1 MB/s21:03
falktx700Kb and you complain??21:03
falktxdamn...21:03
falktxI can't get pass 500Kb for *all* downloads21:03
rlameirowell, from 3.1 MB/s to 700KB/s its a very big diference :D21:04
rlameiroIt is slower for sure :D21:04
rlameiroyeah, I know21:04
rlameiroBut i pay 60€ for it....21:04
rlameirook, tv and phone included ... :)21:05
falktxmeo?21:06
rlameiroZon21:07
falktxnice21:07
rlameiroyeap21:07
falktxI have it two, but just for TV21:07
rlameiro1 MB upload21:07
falktx*too21:07
rlameiroI want to have my server at home21:07
falktxarrg, I get 50Kb upload21:07
falktxbut internet is Vodafone, not Zon21:07
rlameirowell, its better than before21:09
rlameirocofee break21:11
rlameiroback21:51
ScottLhi rlameiro  :)21:54
ScottLhow is your new equipment?21:54
falktxScottL: hey!21:55
falktxScottL: this is for you:21:55
falktxhttp://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudio/files/Live/UbuntuStudio-KR_11.10_32bit.iso/download21:55
rlameiroScottL, hi21:56
rlameiroWell, first of all it works21:56
rlameiro :D21:56
rlameiroI tried to run my FW interface but no luck21:56
rlameiroI wil try this new kxstudio release and if it doesnt works, I am back to US 10.0421:56
ScottLfalktx, i saw that in the backscroll, i am going to download that now21:57
falktxI hope md5sum matches21:57
falktx[#1 SIZE:21.7MiB/1,387.6MiB(1%) CN:1 SPD:420.3KiBs ETA:55m27s]21:57
falktxrlameiro: ^that is all I can get here21:58
rlameirowell, i never check checksums21:59
rlameiroI should....21:59
rlameiroi am installing it right now on the pen21:59
ScottLrlameiro, what problems are you having with your firewire?  is this with ubuntu studio or kxstudio?21:59
ScottLis it because of the new firewire stack, juju?21:59
rlameirokxs21:59
rlameiromaybe21:59
ScottLah, okay21:59
falktxrlameiro: can you check md5sum of the image for me?21:59
rlameironeither cadence or qjackctl can start firewire21:59
ScottLholstein, still might be a good resource to troubleshoot, i think he's pretty masterful at that22:00
falktxrlameiro: you can try jack122:00
rlameiroffado-test shows the interface, so it is detected but not by jack22:00
ScottLfalktx, do you have a sourceforge page or image or something for cadence?22:00
falktxrlameiro: just add 'ppa:kxstudio-team/jack1' and update22:00
falktxScottL: not yet22:00
ScottLfalktx, okay22:00
rlameirohummm, that id iddnt knew :D22:00
falktxScottL: I'll create a full info page before release22:00
* ScottL is going upstairs to start download and do a few other tasks22:00
rlameirowell, i am going to reboot :D i will try it now22:01
rlameirocya22:01
falktxhm, no md5sum?22:03

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