[02:04] <ScottL> rexbron_, did you see my email about ubuntustudio-nightly?
[04:36] <acmeinc> @holstein, this is Tim from the list.  You suggested I am around to freenode, here I am.
[06:47] <stochastic> hey everyone
[11:02] <ScottL> hi stochastic !
[11:02]  * ScottL is going to work now on saturday (and probably will be on sunday)
[11:17] <knome> awwh :)
[12:44] <scott-work> TheMuso: i have made a blueprint for getting the -lowlatency kernel in the repos for precise-12.04
[12:45] <scott-work> is there any point to suggesting it for the sprint at uds-p if it depends on a decision at uds-p on the kernel version?
[12:46] <scott-work> good morning (or afternoon) falktx  :)
[12:46] <falktx> hey there
[12:46] <scott-work> falktx: would you like to do some more work on the lightdm theme?
[12:46] <scott-work> i'm not sure what xubuntu will be doing, but the ubuntu lightdm theme looks really nice and i want to steal it and make it better ;)
[12:46] <falktx> scott-work: depends on the 'when'
[12:47] <falktx> the folling 2 weeks are going to be crazy for me
[12:47] <scott-work> falktx: would several weeks by acceptable?
[12:47] <falktx> scott-work: yes, totally
[12:47] <falktx> I'm finally about to release Cadence
[12:47] <scott-work> falktx: i don't think the tool chain is even supposed to be pushed until after uds
[12:47] <scott-work> falktx: wow!  congratulations!
[12:47] <falktx> scott-work: when is it UDS btw?
[12:48] <scott-work> first week of november
[12:48]  * scott-work is checking calander for tool chain
[12:49] <scott-work> woah, i was really off on the tool chain, apparently it was scheduled for oct 20th
[12:50] <scott-work> falktx: but several weeks from now is more than fine, i think we really need to make sure this is behind us by alpha1 which is dec 1st
[12:50] <falktx> yes, sure thing
[12:52] <scott-work> oustanding!
[12:56] <falktx> all apps seem to be working now, perfect for an alpha release
[12:56] <falktx> I do of course expect bugs
[13:19] <scott-work> cool, that is very exciting falktx 
[13:19] <scott-work> i really admire the way you create these apps :)
[13:26] <scott-work> hey falktx, i just thought of something
[13:26] <scott-work> let me explain the backstory for a few lines then i'll ask the question
[13:27] <falktx> k
[13:27] <scott-work> ubuntu studio is planning on moving towards a live dvd this cycle, but also include a process to allow users to select and install components during installing from a gui
[13:27] <scott-work> edubuntu does this...hold on a sec
[13:28] <scott-work> you can see this in the right image on the first line, here:  http://edubuntu.org/documentation/11.04/installation-guide#Edubuntu_Options_and_Partitioning_
[13:29] <scott-work> this would be similar to tasksel that we currently use
[13:29] <scott-work> however, it has been my thought for a while since starting the work flows that it would be nice to be able to manage these things similarly but after installation
[13:30] <scott-work> and my thought would be to use ubuntustudio-controls to allow users to simply add or remove work flows (i.e. their associated applications)
[13:31] <scott-work> use case example:  i've already installed ubuntu studio and i didn't choose the 'podcast' component (or task) but now i want to do so
[13:32] <scott-work> i pick ubuntustudio-controsl (or whatever the app name ends up) and look at the 'work flows' tab and pick the radio button for 'podcast' and pick the 'install' button...viola, it grabs all the associated apps and installs them if not already on the computer
[13:33] <scott-work> similarly, i can remove a 'work flow' by unselected and hitting...hmmmm, i guess an 'install' button wasn't a good choice before, perhaps an 'apply' button...hitting the 'apply' button
[13:33] <scott-work> falktx: does this make sense, do you think this may be something you could assist with next year?
[13:34] <falktx> scott-work: yes, it makes perfect sense
[13:34] <falktx> scott-work: does it matter if this is made in us-controls or I just add it to my Cadence app?
[13:34] <scott-work> falktx: oh good, i've been thinking about these things for so long that i don't always express or explain it well :P
[13:35] <scott-work> falktx: re: cadence, is cadence going to be in the repos so we can ship it?
[13:35] <falktx> since it's pretty much near first release, I think it has more than time to hit debian
[13:36] <scott-work> falktx, then i think that seems like a viable vector then :)
[13:37] <falktx> yep
[13:41] <scott-work> falktx: i should point that currently we haven't even looked at the edubuntu stuff or considered how our seeds might change
[13:42] <falktx> scott-work: btw, I have made the US 11.10 live ISO
[13:42] <falktx> still uploading though, and it looks like it's gonna take a while
[13:42] <scott-work> i'm not sure this part will happen before a month or two (i need to talk to shnatsel about this, but we may get the live dvd part first, then move to user install selection)
[13:43] <scott-work> falktx: eh, did you fix the lightdm and icons for that?  i don't think your changes made it past the bzr branch from what i've seen
[13:43] <scott-work> but i'm still curious to play with it and see how the performance compares
[13:43] <falktx> I forced the lightdm theme install
[13:43] <falktx> but settings are still not set by default
[20:51] <falktx> it is done
[20:51] <falktx> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudio/files/Live/UbuntuStudio-KR_11.10_32bit.iso/download
[20:51] <knome> hmm?
[20:52] <falktx> UbuntuStudio 11.10 Live DVD - KXStudio Remix
[20:52] <knome> what is kxstudio?
[20:52] <falktx> knome: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
[20:52] <knome> aha
[20:53] <rlameiro> hey
[20:53] <falktx> rlameiro: hey
[20:53] <falktx> rlameiro: did you got my message?
[20:54] <rlameiro> falktx, axeling it
[20:54] <rlameiro> falktx, yeap
[20:54] <rlameiro> but dude, Lac is on the USA
[20:54] <rlameiro> Ii dont have money to go to USA
[20:54] <falktx> me too
[20:54] <falktx> sadly
[20:54] <falktx> rlameiro: do you think they will sponser the presentators?
[20:55] <rlameiro> dunno
[20:55] <rlameiro> maybe
[20:55] <rlameiro> you could do one
[20:55] <rlameiro> I dont have nothing to present :D
[20:56] <rlameiro> falktx, do you know of any problem of jack and Firewire on natty?
[20:56] <falktx> I don't use firewire
[20:56] <rlameiro> I know
[20:56] <falktx> rlameiro: I actually have something very important to present
[20:56] <rlameiro> I cant connect it
[20:56] <falktx> the whole Cadence tools
[20:56] <rlameiro> Cadence?
[20:57] <rlameiro> yeap
[20:57] <falktx> let me show an example
[20:57] <rlameiro> plus your new plugin project
[20:57] <falktx> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/screenshots/carla.png
[20:57] <falktx> yep, Carla that is
[20:57] <rlameiro> dude i am now on kxstudio/ubuntustudio/xubuntu :D
[20:57] <rlameiro> I am using them
[20:57] <falktx> ah, ok
[20:57] <rlameiro> far more eficient than KDE
[20:57] <rlameiro> sorry
[20:58] <falktx> kxstudio != kDE
[20:58] <falktx> rlameiro: you haven't seen carla-control then
[20:58] <falktx> hehe, I really need a camera to show this to people
[20:58] <rlameiro> falktx, I was talking about http://distrho.sourceforge.net/
[20:58] <falktx> rlameiro: oh, that is nothing that big
[20:59] <falktx> I have other stuff to show, much cooler than that
[20:59] <falktx> but new plugins are always nice, yes
[21:00] <rlameiro> i think i will try today the new kxstudio
[21:00] <rlameiro> if it doesnt work with firewire
[21:00] <rlameiro> I will go again to US 10.04
[21:01] <falktx> rlameiro: I think this is kernel related
[21:01] <rlameiro> I need to record that stuff for the OSMP album
[21:01] <falktx> 11.10 should be the best bet right now
[21:01] <falktx> rlameiro: you can try the ISO and see if it works ;)
[21:01] <rlameiro> maybe, maybe some to do with jackdmp/jack1 v jack2
[21:02] <falktx> maybe
[21:02] <rlameiro> is it live or just install
[21:02] <falktx> rlameiro: you can always try jack1
[21:02] <falktx> rlameiro: that is a live-dvd
[21:02] <rlameiro> weeeee
[21:02] <rlameiro> unetbootin here i go
[21:03] <rlameiro> is very slow from sourceforge man
[21:03] <falktx> wait a few minutes
[21:03] <falktx> I just finished the upload
[21:03] <rlameiro> I am downloading at 700KB/s when I usually download at 3.1 MB/s
[21:03] <falktx> 700Kb and you complain??
[21:03] <falktx> damn...
[21:03] <falktx> I can't get pass 500Kb for *all* downloads
[21:04] <rlameiro> well, from 3.1 MB/s to 700KB/s its a very big diference :D
[21:04] <rlameiro> It is slower for sure :D
[21:04] <rlameiro> yeah, I know
[21:04] <rlameiro> But i pay 60€ for it....
[21:05] <rlameiro> ok, tv and phone included ... :)
[21:06] <falktx> meo?
[21:07] <rlameiro> Zon
[21:07] <falktx> nice
[21:07] <rlameiro> yeap
[21:07] <falktx> I have it two, but just for TV
[21:07] <rlameiro> 1 MB upload
[21:07] <falktx> *too
[21:07] <rlameiro> I want to have my server at home
[21:07] <falktx> arrg, I get 50Kb upload
[21:07] <falktx> but internet is Vodafone, not Zon
[21:09] <rlameiro> well, its better than before
[21:11] <rlameiro> cofee break
[21:51] <rlameiro> back
[21:54] <ScottL> hi rlameiro  :)
[21:54] <ScottL> how is your new equipment?
[21:55] <falktx> ScottL: hey!
[21:55] <falktx> ScottL: this is for you:
[21:55] <falktx> http://sourceforge.net/projects/kxstudio/files/Live/UbuntuStudio-KR_11.10_32bit.iso/download
[21:56] <rlameiro> ScottL, hi
[21:56] <rlameiro> Well, first of all it works
[21:56] <rlameiro>  :D
[21:56] <rlameiro> I tried to run my FW interface but no luck
[21:56] <rlameiro> I wil try this new kxstudio release and if it doesnt works, I am back to US 10.04
[21:57] <ScottL> falktx, i saw that in the backscroll, i am going to download that now
[21:57] <falktx> I hope md5sum matches
[21:57] <falktx> [#1 SIZE:21.7MiB/1,387.6MiB(1%) CN:1 SPD:420.3KiBs ETA:55m27s]
[21:58] <falktx> rlameiro: ^that is all I can get here
[21:59] <rlameiro> well, i never check checksums
[21:59] <rlameiro> I should....
[21:59] <rlameiro> i am installing it right now on the pen
[21:59] <ScottL> rlameiro, what problems are you having with your firewire?  is this with ubuntu studio or kxstudio?
[21:59] <ScottL> is it because of the new firewire stack, juju?
[21:59] <rlameiro> kxs
[21:59] <rlameiro> maybe
[21:59] <ScottL> ah, okay
[21:59] <falktx> rlameiro: can you check md5sum of the image for me?
[21:59] <rlameiro> neither cadence or qjackctl can start firewire
[22:00] <ScottL> holstein, still might be a good resource to troubleshoot, i think he's pretty masterful at that
[22:00] <falktx> rlameiro: you can try jack1
[22:00] <rlameiro> ffado-test shows the interface, so it is detected but not by jack
[22:00] <ScottL> falktx, do you have a sourceforge page or image or something for cadence?
[22:00] <falktx> rlameiro: just add 'ppa:kxstudio-team/jack1' and update
[22:00] <falktx> ScottL: not yet
[22:00] <ScottL> falktx, okay
[22:00] <rlameiro> hummm, that id iddnt knew :D
[22:00] <falktx> ScottL: I'll create a full info page before release
[22:00]  * ScottL is going upstairs to start download and do a few other tasks
[22:01] <rlameiro> well, i am going to reboot :D i will try it now
[22:01] <rlameiro> cya
[22:03] <falktx> hm, no md5sum?