[17:28] <seth> hello anyone gotten MOTU parallel port to work? If so which release of ubuntu-studio?
[17:28] <holstein> is that software? or hardware? seth
[17:29] <seth> holstein: this is MIDI hardware: Mark Of the Unicorn(MOTU) - model is MIDI Timepiece AV; they are the older models which can connect to the computer via parallel port.
[17:29] <holstein> well, the MIDI will work like anything else will/can
[17:30] <seth> holstein: apparently MOTU hates linux and will not support in way of drivers
[17:30] <holstein> i wouldnt say 'hate'
[17:30] <holstein> i dont think they notice
[17:30] <holstein> or care
[17:30] <seth> holstein: okay true.
[17:30] <holstein> anyways, the midi will work fine
[17:30] <holstein> not sure about the serial port
[17:30] <holstein> i would assume there is software that wont work either
[17:31] <holstein> if hooking up a serial port give the computer MIDI connections, i would just get a USB to MIDI adapter, and go MIDI into the MOTU
[17:31] <holstein> seth: you can try #opensourcemusicians as well
[17:31] <holstein> more MIDI minded folk over there
[17:32] <seth> for low-latency kernel for Natty
[17:32] <seth> just have to update my apt config with Alessio's PPA?
[17:32] <seth> then do apt-get update?
[17:32] <holstein> thats a good start
[17:32] <holstein> you'll need to add that PPA
[17:33] <holstein> update
[17:33] <holstein> then, install the kernel
[17:33] <holstein> linux-lowlatency AFAIK
[17:33] <seth> ah OK
[17:33] <seth> cool it's labled as such
[17:33] <holstein> then, you'll want to probably un-hide grub
[17:33] <holstein> or thats how i do it
[17:33] <seth> un-hide?
[17:33] <holstein> on the laptops that i 'dual-boot' kernels on, thats what i do
[17:33] <seth> OH is see so you don't get a choice for the generic kernel
[17:33] <holstein> i have grub un-hidden, and set on no timer
[17:34] <holstein> so, it wont automatically boot any kernels
[17:34] <seth> got it
[17:34] <holstein> !grub2
[17:34] <ubottu> GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)
[17:34] <holstein> should be something there on the config if you need
[17:34] <holstein> or i can poke around in my settings if needed :)
[17:35] <seth> sweet.. I can manage for now.. Step 1 is for me to get low-latency kernel.  If I can get my MOTU to work.. I'm in Heaven. .and won't have to fork over $$$ to apple for their solution.
[17:35] <holstein> well, via MIDI, it'll work just fine
[17:36] <seth> it _IS_ supported.. I see jack recognize it.. just the MIDI loop is not completed
[17:36] <seth> so I don't know if it's the low-latench kerenel or what
[17:36] <holstein> nah
[17:36] <holstein> it wont be the kernel
[17:36] <seth> hmm
[17:36] <holstein> you dont *add* more funcionality using that kernel
[17:36] <holstein> i mean, try it... but typically, you'll maybe just break something using it
[17:36] <seth> really? even if you are hooking up 20 synths?
[17:36] <seth> hardware synths?
[17:37] <holstein> ?
[17:37] <holstein> well, i dont think we are talking about the same thing
[17:37] <holstein> if you think adding that kernel will give you driver support, thats not likely
[17:37] <holstein> AFAIK, the patches are added tot he normal kernel
[17:37] <seth> i thought low-latency was imperative when you have lots of midi data using some midi aggregator since the computer software keeps all the timing
[17:37] <holstein> the generic one
[17:37] <holstein> so, typically they both support similar hardware
[17:38] <holstein> seth: and actually, the RT and lowlatency kernels are not as necessary anymore
[17:38] <seth> holstein: why is that?
[17:38] <seth> and is this starting with Natty?
[17:38] <holstein> i usually suggest that folks try the -generic, then move on as needed to the -lowlatency then the -rt one
[17:38] <holstein> seth: nah, this is starting years ago
[17:38] <holstein> the generic kernel is working alot of this funcitonality in
[17:38] <seth> i see
[17:38] <holstein> and im no kernel dev, so i cant really elaboarate
[17:39] <holstein> we just wont be needing a seperate kernel much longer
[17:39] <seth> alright.. then I'll concentrate on midi setup with Jack then.. instead of futzing around with low-latency
[17:39] <holstein> hopefully we get the -lowlatency kernel in as default for 12.04
[17:39] <holstein> then, we can let it go
[17:39] <holstein> and just focus on -generic
[17:39] <seth> okay cool thanks.
[17:39] <holstein> sure
[22:17] <Tigerboy> What happened to the ubuntu-studio project the site says it has broken apart but they are still functional... they lost all of the participants?  Should I upgrade my install to 11.10 or just keep it at 11.04 until things improve at US?