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babblesigh.00:59
GridCube?00:59
babblewhy do I persist in trying to make myself like KDE4?00:59
GridCubebabble, i don't know, qt is pretty awful00:59
* GridCube OPINIONS00:59
babbleevery time I think I should give it a try again and live with it for a few days, I end up saying pretty much the same thing.01:00
GridCube:P01:01
babblehehe01:01
GridCubeits ok :D thats the nic thing about linux, you have pleny of options01:01
GridCubemy keyboard batteries are running out and some letters dont gt send01:02
GridCubeXD01:02
babbleoh, I like options, but I'm fiddly :)01:02
babbleheh01:02
babbleone of the things l *like* about Xfce so far is that - like GnomeOld - it's pared the user-exposed options down to a really sensible set, but you can easily get under the hood and play with it01:03
GridCube:)01:08
babbleoooh, yay, the U1 indicator runs in Xub* :)01:10
babblehey, I think this source package actually built. Heh. It's the small things, for me.01:36
babbleAND IT RUNS!01:37
babblewoot!01:37
babbleam. so. making. PPA.01:37
babbleok, grrrrrrrrr.02:26
babbleI must be a total n00b, I can NOT work out how to get this republished to LP.02:26
babbletrying to publish this branch with bzr keeps giving me a public key error,  BUT my key is already posted to LaunchPad.02:27
babblewhat on EARTH am I doing wrong?02:27
Unit193!bzr02:30
ubottubzr is Bazaar-NG, a decentralized revision control system designed to be easy for developers and end users alike. Decentralized revision control systems give people the ability to work over the internet using the bazaar development model.  See http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/bzr.dev/en/mini-tutorial/ for a quickstart guide.02:30
Unit193Take alook at the mini guide02:30
babbleyeah, I'm digging through the manpage, but not finding anything for resolving a key issue.02:31
babblegrr. lemme dig02:31
Unit193Also may want to try #launchpad02:32
babbleoooh, good idea :) thanks02:32
babbleoooh, rawk.02:45
babbleit looks like it just published :)02:46
babblehuzzah!02:46
babblehehhe02:46
GridCubehttps://plus.google.com/u/0/104777644685667373488/posts/jPyhGpMGTcM04:50
moljac024someone please help me06:35
moljac024my sound just died06:35
moljac024completely06:35
moljac024i rebooted and still have no sound06:36
moljac024it was working fine yesterday and i havent changed anything06:36
moljac024xubuntu 11.1006:36
moljac024ok, found it - i removed the indicator plugin and used xfce4 mixer plugin but somehow the sound was muted and could only be unmuted by the indicator plugin06:38
snarkHow do you get rid of that annoying notification feature where they pop up in little black boxes?  DRives me crazy every time I get an im or something lol07:14
well_laid_lawnsnark: there's the notification config in the system settings07:16
snarkCan I do it from xfce via the xfce settings manager/editor ?07:17
snarkI looked around int here for it to no avail07:17
well_laid_lawnyep07:17
well_laid_lawnuncheck the show notifications checkbox07:19
snarkDo you know what sub section its in?  I think I'm just having a retarded moment, but I can't seem to locate it.07:20
well_laid_lawnI have a notification icon in the settings window which opens the config for the notifications07:23
snarkHrm, thats odd.  Definitely not in mine.07:24
well_laid_lawnmenu-settings-settings manager-notifications07:25
snarkOh yeah I get what you're saying, its just not in there.07:25
well_laid_lawnI'm suprised at that07:26
snarkMe too haha07:26
well_laid_lawnyou have the notifications so there should be the config07:26
well_laid_lawntry in a terminal   xfce4-notifyd-config07:27
snarkBut yeah it just goes from mouse to panel, definitely no notifications in there.  I'm gonna make a forum post and see if someone knows what might be going on, or if they know how to just edit the config file manually07:27
snarkkk07:27
well_laid_lawn!tab07:27
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.07:27
snarkHey, look at that.  It sais its not installed, but it gave me the package name to install.07:28
well_laid_lawnI wonder why it was missed?07:29
snarkIDK, I've done a lot of random experimentation though.  Could've been a victim of some of my messing around07:29
well_laid_lawnheh well you know how to get it07:30
snarkXD  Yeah.  Should be solved now.  I appreciate the help man.07:31
well_laid_lawncheers07:31
maddymy mouse pointer has become invisible, I can click stuff but I can't see it...it is visible when it's over a textbox though, any tips?09:39
Sysilog out and back in or reboot, if you didn't do that yet09:40
maddyI did try that already09:40
gentoo_drummerHello everyone.. I have installed XFCE on a clean Ubuntu system using the command line installation method and the fonts are no where near on the xubuntu appearance side. Could someone tell me how xubuntu patches the fonts or the configuration used?09:41
Sysifor what I know, it doesn't09:42
Sysidroid font with slight antialiasing iirc, rgb-mode09:42
gentoo_drummeriirc?09:43
Sysiif I remember/recall correctly09:43
gentoo_drummer:P09:43
maddycome on guys I need help09:44
well_laid_lawnis xfdesktop running?09:44
maddymy mouse pointer works when it's over a textbox, like the | cursor, but the regular pointer is invisible09:45
maddyso I would assume yes it's running09:45
well_laid_lawndo you have icons on the desktop?09:46
maddyyeah09:46
well_laid_lawnk it's running - that was my guess about it09:47
well_laid_lawnwhat have you done lately system wise?09:47
maddyI tried to remove the avahi notification after logging in by editing /etc/default/avahi-daemon, I changed AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL to 009:49
maddyI changed it back to 1 already, but that didn't bring mouse back09:49
well_laid_lawnit would be hard to accept editing that config would kill the mouse cursor09:51
well_laid_lawnsomething else must have happened09:51
maddyyeah that's what I am thinking too09:51
well_laid_lawntry a new session'09:51
Sysiare you using custom mouse theme?09:52
maddyI have a clean xubuntu 11.10 installation, with updates applied and few standard apps installed (like libreoffice), everything is pretty much default settings09:52
Sysinvidia driver?09:52
Sysior ati09:52
maddyati09:52
Sysipropietary one? from Additional drivers09:52
maddyno09:52
maddyshould I try that?09:53
maddythe mouse is a standard PS/2 optical mouse, should be pretty basic stuff09:56
maddyit says propriatery drivers aren't available09:57
maddytried to change my mouse pointer theme, same problem still10:00
_maddygetting closer to the problem, I changed my mouse theme to red cursor now10:09
_maddyit's red on some programs (like firefox), but the default white on other programs and desktop...could this be related to GTK2 / GTK3?10:10
Sysigksudo mousepad /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme10:12
Sysichange mouse theme there, you can check theme names in /usr/share/icons/ folder, by default there are DMZ:s and some glass-themes10:13
_maddyso I can set the default theme there10:14
_maddyit's DMZ-white by default10:14
Sysithere's bug in chaging theme from GUI10:14
Sysiyou need to relogin after editing that file10:14
_maddyok...still doesn't bring me any closer of the problem, why my mouse cursor sometimes goes invisible (right now it works again)10:15
_maddyI think I need to disable HWcursor in xorg.conf, any tips on how to create one?10:45
_maddy"sudo Xorg -configure" says Server is already active for display 010:46
Sysiyou need to do that on virtual console, and stop lightdm/xorg10:47
_maddyhmm, how to do that?10:48
Sysictrl alt F6, login, sudo service lightdm stop (not sure about that) sudo Xorg -configure, sudo service lightdm start and maybe ctrl alt F710:50
_maddyactually I just need to add one section to the xorg.conf, I could do that manually if I knew the identifier and driver of my vga card10:52
Sysiidentifier propably is just Device0 check driver with lspci -k10:52
_maddycan I check somehow that my xorg.conf is valid and doesn't contain errors?10:59
_maddythink I'll just try rebooting then11:01
bawsHello.11:08
bawsHello11:15
Payhey does anyone got xubuntu working on a system that uses efi? i have a lenovo, and it installs fine however it doesnt start the bootload grub after install11:21
Payalso this damn lenovo has no legacy mode to switch to disable efi11:22
baws<Pay> How much ram do you have?11:23
Payafaik it was 4 gb11:24
Pay@ baws yes it is 4 rechecked it..11:25
TheSheepI had xubuntu working on a macbook just fine11:25
TheSheepboth with refit and alone11:26
Paynice.. it seems to be a lenovo related bug which happens one several lenovos.. that simply dont find the bootloader11:26
Payi want to completely remove windows so no dual boot necassary11:27
Paythe only work around i see is maybe to install the bootloader on a sdcard and let it inside the nb, this is really uncool but i see no other way with this crappy lenovo bios11:28
TheSheepPay: you can try with refit maybe11:37
Paynever used it i will check it out thx11:38
Zacariasis there a way to choose the user and the session/desktop environment from the yaboot (or similar) prompts?11:50
benccxubuntu packages are ubuntu packages?12:26
bencccan I develop with xubuntu and use an ubuntu server and know that they will be compatible?12:27
TheSheepwhat do you mean by "compatible"?12:27
TheSheepwhat are you "developing" in?12:27
benccTheSheep: I have an ubuntu server and I'm developing on an ubuntu desktop of the same version12:28
Sysiubuntu apps = xubuntu apps12:28
benccI know that all debs will be the same (except for desktop specific debs)12:28
benccSysi: same versions? 11.04, 11.10... ?12:28
TheSheepbencc: "developing"12:29
TheSheepbencc: what do you mean by that?12:29
rhin0anyone know how to get a caps lock indicator on the panel12:29
TheSheepbencc: what language/runtime environment/etc.12:30
benccTheSheep: does it matters? it can be python, php, erlang...12:30
rhin0this is ridiculo9us12:30
rhin0caps lock indicator is basic12:31
TheSheepbencc: ok, so it's nothing binary12:31
benccTheSheep: what do you mean by binary? c?12:31
TheSheepbencc: as long as you properly indicate all the dependencies for your applications, it should be no problem12:31
rhin0Xfce currently has no native panel plugin for displaying the lock keys.""12:32
TheSheepbencc: it may happen, that you are using something that is installed in xubuntu by default, but it's not there in ubuntu server -- then it has to be installed with your application12:32
TheSheeprhin0: awesome. can we help you?12:32
benccTheSheep: it can happen with ubuntu-desktop as well. What I'm asking is if xubuntu and ubuntu are the same except for the UI it it seems they are12:33
TheSheepbencc: yes, the basic system is the same, they only differ in the desktop environment and the set of applications and libraries installed by default12:34
TheSheepbencc: so, as long as your applications don't tie deeply into the internals of the desktop environment, you should be fine12:34
bencccool12:35
benccand they have the same release and support cycle?12:35
TheSheepbencc: xubuntu doesn't have official support12:36
rhin0anhyone know how to get a caps lock indicator applet in xubuntu 11.1012:48
rhin0there is no caps lock indicator applet in xubuntu 11.1012:51
rhin0how can you use it on many machines12:51
rhin0without the little light -- numerous machines dont' have htem12:51
rhin0so ...12:51
TheSheepI just disable caps lock completely and use it as a compose key12:51
TheSheepit's useless anyways12:52
lordjjI logged in in Xfce mode once to check it out, then I restarted. When I logged in Xubuntu mode again, the font antialiasing looks blurry and the all the default themes aren't working right -changing the theme only changes the title bar and window color, while it used to change the whole shape of the window and title bar. What's wrong??13:06
rhin0thesheep its not useless if you use it -- it's useless to you becaus you don't use it .. some people do13:06
rhin0habit13:06
rhin0its handy13:07
=== psycho_oreos is now known as hatake_kakashi
mkihi! I got sick of KDE and just switched to xubuntu. Need some help: How can I switch ctrl and caps lock?13:38
mkiI mean swap ctrl and caps lock13:38
GridCubemmm13:40
rhin0ok13:43
GridCubemki, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18876113:43
rhin0giving up on xubuntu ---- no caps lock indicator13:43
GridCuberhin0, ?13:43
rhin0wahts the flaming poing13:43
GridCuberhin0, ?13:44
* rhin0 wails13:44
GridCubewhats the problem?13:44
rhin0can't get can't get caps lock indictoar in panel13:45
rhin0there is none13:45
rhin0its impossibel13:45
rhin0nobody can get a caps lock indictoar on xfce13:45
rhin0so .13:45
GridCuberhin0, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/indicator-keylock-ubuntu/13:45
rhin0looking13:47
mkiGridCube: Thanks.  But I only want to swap Ctrl + Caps lock, and a compose key on the ><-key. In KDE i only had to tick two boxes in the keyboard configuration menu. Is there a fast way to do this in xfce?13:48
rhin0 Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsbarnes/indicator-keylock/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found13:48
GridCubemmm13:49
GridCubei dont know mki  :(13:49
GridCuberhin0, let me do some more research please13:49
rhin0im wondering if I have to download the source etc13:50
* rhin0 butts wall13:50
mkiGridCube: ok thanks anyway13:50
rhin0ok ty ty ty GridCube13:50
rhin0http://ppa.launchpad.net/tsbarnes/indicator-keylock-daily/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/  <- package appears to be available here13:51
mkiIt's the command 'setxkbmap -option "ctrl:swapcaps compose:102"' i need. Is there a way to autostart it after login into xfce?14:07
GridCubesyes14:10
GridCubeon >configuration >session and startup >autostart of applications14:11
mkiok thanks trying...14:11
rhin0GridCube:  -- launched thread -- nothing works  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11379528#post1137952814:12
GridCuberhin0, im trying14:13
=== hatake_kakashi is now known as psycho_oreos
GridCuberhin0, :) still working on it14:29
rhin0ah ta -- http://opendesktop.org/content/show.php?content=146102  <- going through this -- have "indicator plugin" on right click on panel but it's un highlighted - don't even know where that leadds to caps lock indicator14:30
rhin0i've compiled it I think for 64 bit14:30
babblehrm; can I run the Unity/Ubuntu keyboard layout plugin in Xubuntu?14:40
guendalinehi all14:40
babble(appindicator/panel plugin/you know what I mean...)14:40
ElderDryasAfter a fresh install of 11.10, I've noticed that my sound icon on the indicator plugin, after muting, will not unmute.  Is this a result of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/877455 ?14:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 852017 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #877455 xfce4-indicator-plugin does not update output" [Medium,Confirmed]14:41
mkiseems the 'software center' only shows me packages for graphical applications. how do get the full package list (containing packages like 'vim' for command line)?14:49
ElderDryassynaptic14:50
mkiah its 'technical' items... strange14:50
ElderDryasmki: both will work, I find it's easier to use synaptic.14:51
serfusthe rhythmbox icon in the tray or notification area (up there) is no where to be found. i have the "rhythmbox-plugins" package installed, yet the "Status Icon" is not in the plugin list14:51
ElderDryasserfus: It's not there :(14:51
serfusaccording to the package description it should be14:52
ElderDryasif you also notice, they've (the infamous they) have gotten rid of the streaming radio capability also.14:52
ElderDryasserfus: I know, but Mark knows best.14:52
serfusso it's not available at all?14:52
serfusthat sucks....14:52
ElderDryasNot to my knowledge, and believe me, I've tried.14:53
mkiElderDryas: Thanks will try this14:53
* serfus is going to file a bug14:53
serfushope someone will figure it out14:53
ElderDryasMaybe they think if the gut rhythmbox, it will make banshee look better?14:53
serfusthat's sad... i like rhythmbox better then banshee14:54
ElderDryasrhythmbox is simple...banshee is am overcomplicated mess (imo)14:55
serfusi'm with you ElderDryas :)14:57
GridCuberhin0, :( im sorry there is no easy way of doing this14:57
GridCuberhin0, will add this as a request for the next release of xubuntu, be sure of that14:59
rhin0what do I do for several months14:59
GridCube:(14:59
GridCubei'm sorry but i can not do anything, im trying to compile that applet now14:59
rhin0i'll get onto it also15:00
babbleis there a way to set my default save location for open & save dialogs in Xubuntu 11.10?15:00
babble(if it's a gtk/gconf setting, is it buried in one of the schemas?)15:00
GridCubebabble, on what program?15:00
babbleGridCube: ideally, I'd like to set a systemwide default, as some apps (I think gtk3? apps, but I'm not certain) are defaulting to the 'recently used' search, which is annoying)15:01
nikolamhi, how do you edit application menu? (Would like to see/read program paths)15:01
babblesome apps remember my last opened location, but nothing does the same for *every* app.15:01
babblei.e. I could live with everything defaulting to home, if it's consistent15:01
GridCubenikolam, i dont think you can do that on xfce, you can try using alacarte15:02
GridCube!alacarte15:02
GridCubemmm15:02
GridCube!allacarte15:02
nikolamI just started something called 'menueditor' I guess it is Gnome part.15:02
GridCube!info alacarte15:03
ubottualacarte (source: alacarte): easy GNOME menu editing tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.13.2-2ubuntu3 (oneiric), package size 52 kB, installed size 348 kB15:03
GridCubethere15:03
nikolamyes thats it.15:03
babble(alacarte will install a ton of Gnome/Unity dependencies by itself, unless you choose --no-install-recommends, BUT...15:03
nikolamAlso I have some trouble with what seems that ssytem locles are uninstalled somehow15:04
babbleI can edit menu ITEMS, but not menu groups or separators in Alacarte on 11.10)15:04
ElderDryasnikolam: IIRC menueditor wont work, it's just there because the SC need s it15:04
nikolam(process:10355): Gtk-WARNING **: Locale not supported by C library.15:04
nikolamUsing the fallback 'C' locale.15:04
nikolamI see ElderDryas15:04
guendalineI have some problem configuring xorg.conf, please someone can look a moment at this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/71604715:04
ElderDryasnikolam: This is mopnths old memory, I could be wrong15:04
serfuswhat is the default media player of xfce?15:04
babbleit works as well as LDME (i.e. it can tick items on or off for you, and you can make new launchers/rearrange existing launchers or put them in additional or different menu groups)15:05
ElderDryasgmusicbrowser and parole15:05
babblebut given that Alacarte has no functionality OVER LDME, I just use LDME :)15:05
ElderDryasserfus: you mean xfce or xubuntu?15:06
GridCubeserfus, xubuntu's is parole15:06
GridCube!parole15:06
GridCube!info parole15:07
ubottuparole (source: parole): media player based on GStreamer framework. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.0.6-1 (oneiric), package size 334 kB, installed size 1308 kB15:07
ElderDryasAfter a fresh install of 11.10, I've noticed that my sound icon on the indicator plugin, after muting, will not unmute.  Is this a result of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-indicator-plugin/+bug/877455 ?15:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 852017 in xfce4-indicator-plugin (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #877455 xfce4-indicator-plugin does not update output" [Medium,Confirmed]15:07
nikolamI also found something called edubuntu-menueditor Description sounds promising for managing menus for multiple users.15:08
babbleoh, that, hehe. I'm digging in the parole code - is there any easy-to-enable switch that looks sort of like Totem's 'hide controls' view? (Totem collapses controls and the playlist leaving you with just a titlebar and your playing video - I use it to watch videos but leave my panels visible)15:08
ElderDryasnikolam: If you're up for some work:  http://wiki.xfce.org/howto/customize-menu15:08
dbertuahi speak in spanish?15:09
knome!es | dbertua15:09
serfusshouldn't xfce and xubuntu be the same?15:09
ubottudbertua: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #xubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.15:09
ElderDryasbabble: If you find out how, let me know...that's the one thing I don't like about parole.15:09
ElderDryasserfus: nope15:09
serfusi'v installed the xfce meta package, not xubuntu-desktop15:10
serfusso what do i use?15:10
dbertuainstalling xubuntu 11.1015:10
knomeserfus, ubuntu with xfce15:10
ElderDryasxfce is a DE and xubuntu is a distro, like xfce is a Ford and xubuntu is a Mustang15:10
dbertuai use kubuntu 11.1015:10
nikolamElderDryas, I also tried compiling xfce-menu-edit on 10.04 LTS but some library problems arised:  http://xfcemenuedit.mon-asso.org/index.en.html15:10
GridCubedbertua, :) si queres ayuda yo estoy en #xubuntu-es y en #ubuntu-es15:11
serfusright, so in multimedia i can't see any specific media player15:11
GridCubeserfus, then we can not help you15:11
GridCubeyou need to install xubuntu-desktop15:11
serfusnot searching help, just advice :)15:11
serfusi don't want it15:12
knomedbertua, or #kubuntu15:12
serfusit messes up the system, while other users on this machine don't use xfce15:12
GridCubesudo apt-get install parole15:12
serfusis it similar to rhythmbox?15:13
GridCubenope15:13
knomeserfus, gmusicbrowser is the default media player (not video)15:13
GridCubeyou know whats symilar to rhythmbox?15:13
GridCubesudo apt-get install rhythmbox15:14
serfusGridCube, please tell15:14
GridCubeXD15:14
serfus:P15:14
serfusi'm using it now, but it doesn't go in the tray area15:14
GridCubeoh15:14
ElderDryasserfus: My suggestion(s) would be Exaile for audio and vlc for video.15:14
ElderDryasIf rhythmbox doesn't meet you need after the gutting15:15
serfusso i'm looking for a media player withe library  like rhythmbox15:15
serfusexaile has library and such?15:15
ElderDryasserfus: Exaile, see collections15:15
guendalineno one that know what's wrong in my xorg.conf?15:15
GridCubeserfus, exaile15:16
serfusokay, thanks ElderDryas, i'll try it15:16
serfusfor video i use smplayer which is awesome15:16
ElderDryasserfus: you must tell exaile to remain in the notifications area after closinig, it's in the configs somewhere.15:17
serfusif it's there that's alright15:17
serfuswill it bring many unrelated libraries?15:18
serfusnvm )15:18
knomeserfus, gmusicbrowser supports libraries well, have you checked that out?15:19
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GridCuberhin0, :D got it working!15:27
guendalinesomeone with ati card, fglrx driver and two displays could post their xorg.conf for me to copy?15:45
rhin0gridcube can you post the list of dependencies & what you had to do to compile that here -- I will add it to the forum posting -- someone else will complete the method (how to get this working on xfce 4.8 ubuntu 11.10)  also -- the package name -- also why it doesn't intitially compile in english15:59
rhin0GridCube  .... because people will be trying to find out how to fix this and nobody so far but I and you have addressed this ... I got the python script working but you have managed to install the solution16:00
rhin0I had it in #xfce but I just exited there16:00
rhin0bbl16:00
GridCube;)16:00
GridCubeim doing that now16:00
bullcityrambler@gendaline: This isn't at all what you asked for, but it has the same effect.  Stick the following in your rc.local and change the monitor names: [code]xrandr --output VBOX1 --pos 0x0 --output VBOX0 --left-of VBOX1[/code]16:01
rhin0http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=11379796  <- heres my post anyway16:01
GridCuberhin0, im writing there16:01
rhin0oh wow cube of grid -- excellent16:01
rhin0going to make toast -- bbl16:01
guendalinebullcityrambler: thanks for youre answer, unfortunately it wont work. even using --output CRT1 and CRT2 like in my case.. screen cannot be larger than 1920x1920 is the output. also rc.local is missing.16:18
guendalineI'm searching the web for the "screen cannot be larger than" error and the solution is everywhere the same, adding a "Virtual" line to xorg.conf, but my attempts fail16:26
guendalinemaybe I can open a telnet server without a password as root and go to the shower, hoping that an intruder rather than flatten the hard disk solves the problem! XD16:35
mkii'm new to xfce: How do I eject a usb device?16:43
GridCube!info mp32ogg16:44
ubottuPackage mp32ogg does not exist in oneiric16:44
Sysimki: right click on icon on desktop or icon on thunar or small arrow in thunar16:44
mkiSysi: Thanks, where can i find thunar?16:45
Sysixubuntu/xfce default file manager16:45
mkiah ok16:46
mkiSysi: In KDE it was possible to eject usb devices by klicking into the panel. Is it possible to do it this way in xfce?16:47
kasztan85possible16:48
mkiUsually i don't use file managers and the desktop is behind millions of windows :)16:48
kasztan85but you must add aplet to urs panel16:48
mkiok sounds good16:48
Sysiadd new items → mount plugin16:48
kasztan85thats right16:49
mkiok found it great thanks!16:49
kasztan85welcome16:49
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sambrois there a way to get an "open with" option when right-clicking a dvd icon on the desktop?17:29
wereyodaHi I need to make my mouse cursor bigger the settings do not work so how to set it manually? (64-bit)17:40
GridCubewereyoda, http://alturl.com/qq8o4 question 817:43
rhin0is there some difference in setting up ssh with xfce --- it keeps aksing for passphrase in bash -- nromally I got gnome asking for my passphrase -- i'm setting up the key with ssh-keygen then using ssh-copy-id18:03
rhin0I just don't get it18:03
rhin0it's something to do with ssh-agent18:05
rhin0somethings changed -- i used to be able to set up ssh with ssh-keygen etc ssh-copy-id on ubuntu18:08
rhin011.10 it doesn't set up right18:08
rhin0diff between gnome and xfce18:08
GridCubexfce =/= gnome18:19
thedoctor'ello18:21
GridCubesup' thedoctor18:22
wereyodacan I run .Xdefaults without relogging?18:26
thedoctorjust waicing for xubuntu to finish installing....la la la..18:32
thedoctorwaiting*18:32
GridCube:)18:33
Newbie321Hello, can anyone help me out?18:36
Myrttiit's a bit easier to know if we can, if you just ask your question18:36
Newbie321Ok. I have an issue with my xubuntu installation. When I try to launch the installer from a menu, this appears on my monitor: http://anony.ws/i/nG4hp.jpg18:37
Newbie321Is that a videocard problem?18:38
dustin_looks like an atari game18:38
dustin_:(18:38
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Newbie321Does anyone know what could be causing an issue?18:42
GridCubeNewbie321, probably unknown video drivers18:43
GridCubeyou should use the alternate installer18:43
Newbie321The text based one?18:43
GridCubeyes18:43
GridCubepretty easy to use :)18:43
Newbie321I'll try. Thanks.18:44
wereyodathanks GridCube things work better now19:00
crassanyone know how to change the behavior or the file chooser? Instead of it defaulting to "Recently Used", I'd like to have it show the contents of the directory where the last file in the app was opened from19:09
w30Is there a samba client plugin for thunar or a GUI for xubuntu and samba shares?19:30
w30Like places in gnome2 desktop19:31
w30I have xfce4 desktop19:31
badapplehi19:58
badapplecan you help me with this http://imgur.com/3HH73 :/ ?19:58
badapplei have a secound desktop19:58
badapplewho is starting after the mine ..19:59
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tazaHmm, xrandr doesn't work the same as it did in 11.0420:16
tazaI try "xrandr --output VGA1 --panning 800x800", and am unable to actually pan the screen. The screen size increases, but moving the mouse to the edge does nothing.20:17
knometaza, --left-to ?20:17
knometaza, or --right-to?20:17
taza... would do what, precisely?20:17
knometry that20:18
tazaJust adding it to the bottom?20:18
tazaEr end, rather20:18
knomeit would mean the VGA1 is (physically) left or right to the main monitor20:18
tazaThe screen is 800x600 physically.20:18
tazaIt IS the main monitor20:18
taza800x600, I'm trying to have a 800x800 workspace20:19
knomeah, right20:19
tazaAnd that command worked in 11.04, but stopped working in 11.1020:20
knomehmmh20:20
knome!info xrandr natty20:20
knome!info xrandr oneiric20:20
ubottuPackage xrandr does not exist in natty20:20
ubottuPackage xrandr does not exist in oneiric20:20
knomehmph20:20
tazaIt's not in it's own package.20:21
knomeyeah, i figured that out20:21
knomexubuntu itself hasn't changed anything, so it's possibly in xrandr20:21
tazaWelp I can't do anything unless it works.20:23
knometaza, you could ask #ubuntu if something has changed since natty (this ain't a xubuntu-specific issue)20:23
knometaza, maybe they're able to help20:23
tazaAlready did; dead silence. Nobody there I figure.20:24
knomehuh?20:25
tazaAs in nobody with a clue about my problem20:25
knomeshould be much more people there20:25
knomeright..20:25
knomewell i don't have either20:25
tazaThere's a lot of people - too many for anyone to pay any attention.20:25
knomemaybe get around to what version of xrandr was in natty (1.3.5 in oneiric) and figure out what changed20:26
knomeor refer again to the manual20:26
tazaUgh. Uuugh.20:26
tazaOr it's a bug in something completely unrelated. Year of the Linux Desktop.20:27
knomeman xrandr says under --panning that "you typically have to set the screen size with --fb simultaneously"20:27
taza(In case you don't know what that means: "Linux sucks for desktop users.")20:28
tazaYeah, I read the man page20:28
tazaNo use20:28
knome#xorg? ;]20:28
tazaIt worked pretty precisely with the command I listed before20:29
knomewell as i said, i have no idea20:29
knomeyou can idle here and wait for an answer or seek it elsewhere20:29
tazaFair enough.20:29
knomeprobably better to try elsewhere20:30
tazaYeah, this is why I go with macs usually.20:30
knomegood luck:)20:30
tazaYou use Linux until you're skilled enough to make it work for others, then use the money you've been paid and buy a Mac.20:31
knomenot really20:31
tazaYou're not getting paid, then?20:31
tazaBug already listed on Launchpad... 3 days ago.20:46
mikodotaza: Do you have an URL20:46
knometaza, not for linux support exactly, but that was not my point exactly20:48
w30I need a smbclient GUI for xubuntu; any suggestions?20:57
Unit193w30: Depending on what exactly you want, Gigolo should be it (Already installed too)21:00
w30Unit193, what do I use for a URI for samba shares?21:04
Unit193w30: Install gvfs-backends21:04
w30Unit193, ahh... thank you21:05
tazahttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/87787821:12
tazamikodo21:12
ubottuLaunchpad bug 877878 in xserver-xorg-video-intel (Ubuntu) "randr panning not working" [Undecided,New]21:12
tazaSurprise surprise, said system is an embedded one built out of the guts of a netbook21:12
w30Unit193, if I type smbclient -L 127.0.0.1 I get a list of workgroups; any way to do this in gigolo?21:32
babbledoes anyone know if there's a PPA for global time that21:32
babblethat's installable in Xubuntu (ideally an appindicator?)21:33
Unit193w30: Hit connect, Service type: Windows Share, type in the server, and now hit the reload button21:33
w30Unit193, it says you must enter share21:36
w30Unit193, what am I doing wrong?21:37
Unit193w30: In the "Connect to Server" box, you should just fill in the server (may need to do it like \\127.0.0.1 ) and maybe username & network. Next to the "Shares", there is a blue reload button, click it.  Did you happen to just hit "Connect"?21:40
w30Unit193, tryed that; nothing21:42
w30Unit193, seems I have to know shared folder name21:43
Unit193w30: In Thunar, I have a network icon on the side, do you now?21:43
w30Unit193, lemme check21:44
knomeC$, D$, ...21:45
knomeiirc21:45
w30Unit193, no I don't; must be missing a package eh?21:45
Unit193knome: Yep, but only if you're sharing the C drive21:45
knomeUnit193, no, those are default at least in 2000 and earlier, without even checking you want to share them...21:47
w30Unit193, I sheardhed synaptic for thunar and didn't see any smb stuff21:47
w30sheardhed/searched21:47
Unit193This is what I have for "gvfs" http://paste.ubuntu.com/716398/21:48
w30Unit193, I'll open synaptic and look for green squares21:51
Unit193!fusesmb-#xubuntu | w3021:52
ubottuw30: fusesmb is a tool that allows easy access to shared folders (smb) on a network.  Links with more info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb21:52
knomeUnit193, btw, you don't need the suffix if you are in that exact channel :)21:53
Unit193knome: Yeah... A little too used to needing one in another channel :P21:53
lyraehow can i remove icons from desktop? (recycle bin, other HDD, etc)21:53
Unit193w30: http://thunar.xfce.org/pwiki/documentation/faq#when_will_it_support_sambanetwork_browsing Might help too21:56
Unit193lyrae: Menu > Settings > Settings Manager > Desktoip and click the Icons tab up at the top21:57
lyraeUnit193, thank you. However, a HDD that i automount via fstab isn't listed in the options. Howcome? Even since i automounted it, the icon isnt in the desktop anymore21:59
w30Unit193, I will try fusesmb21:59
Unit193lyrae: Ah, you can just add a launcher22:00
Unit193w30: knome might know more ;)22:00
lyraethanks Unit19322:00
lyraeUnit193, what is the command for the launcher, to open the folder/hdd. is it thunr path/to/hdd?22:02
lyraewhy yes it is22:02
Unit193Launcher or ln (link), both should work22:04
xubuntu357Question:  Anybody aware of any installation issues with Xubuntu 11.10, AMD64 version?22:25
babblexubuntu357: O22:25
babbleI'm running 11.10amd6422:25
attarno problems here22:26
xubuntu357Very nice.  One of my computers burned up, and so I just rebuilt it from parts...  was running 10.10 32 bit on the old one, but thought I would move up a bit on this one.  The install is running now as we speak.22:27
babble:)22:27
xubuntu357I had tried 11.04 but had issues with devede and other video rendering stuff, but hoping that is all resolved now22:28
bashelinaI want to be able to just hover over the volume vontrol and scroll to change volume... is it possible ??22:50
xrdodrxbashelina, used to be :<22:52
bashelinawhy didnt they make it an option in settings then ?   why remove such a useful fucntion ?22:54
Unit193bashelina: In oneiric?23:02
badapplehey can somebody help me for a secound =) ?23:22
badapplewell ^^23:23
badapple?23:23
bazhangask a question23:25
badapplebazhang, i will give you a picture couse i cant explain it very well on english =)23:27
badapplebazhang, my net is slow give me a minute =)23:31
UhriventisHello, I'm just wondering if this is normal. I'm currently installing Xubuntu on my netbook via USB, but throughout the installation -- the mouse curser won't move. I've just been clicking tab to continue.23:34
badapplebazhang, http://imgur.com/ dont want to upload can you give me another website ?23:34
UhriventisI hope when it boots I won't have this problem23:34
bazhangbadapple, briefly describe the issue here23:35
UhriventisNo ideas or similar installation problems?23:36
badapplebazhang, ok well, when i open some folder or browser etc. it shows me the windows very hight i cant see the ( minimize maximize (X) ) and i always have to pull it down .. i hope u understanded sry for my english ..23:37
UhriventisUbuntu, Fedora, Debian, Slackware, openSuSE, Kubuntu never did this. But for some reason.... It's acting a fool.23:37
badappleUhriventis, you are runing this on live mode ?23:37
UhriventisNo, it's not live.23:38
UhriventisI was thinking I should run it live23:38
UhriventisIt's still graphical.23:38
knomebadapple, alt+drag?23:38
UhriventisJust no desktop23:38
badappleknome, drag ?23:38
UhriventisIt isn't the famous black and blue screen.23:38
knomebadapple, what's your primary language?23:38
badapplebulgarian .. but i speak spanish good =)23:39
badappleUhriventis, i dont know man sry =(23:39
Uhriventis¿Qué está pasando con mi instalación?23:39
UhriventisHaha23:39
knome!es | badapple23:40
ubottubadapple: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #xubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #xubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.23:40
badappleUhriventis, no se tio :D23:40
knomebadapple, Uhriventis: english only here23:40
badappleknome, sry23:40
badappleknome, can u help me =/23:40
knomebadapple, you can try the spanish channel, they should be able to help with xubuntu too23:40
UhriventisVoy a tratar de ejecutar el instalador en vivo.23:40
UhriventisOh yeah23:40
badappleUhriventis, join #xubuntu-es i am there =)23:41
UhriventisI'm native english speaker23:41
UhriventisI'm as pale as a ghost23:41
UhriventisJust so happen to grow up in Texas23:41
knomebadapple, hummm, there is #ubuntu-es too you can try23:41
badapple:D23:41
badappleknome, ok thanks23:41
knomenp23:41
badappleknome, i forgot to say i am using compiz23:41
badapplebadapple, can be this the problem ?23:42
knomebadapple, yeah... the problem is probabl related23:42
badappleknome, well from where can i set up the starting windows place :?23:42
UhriventisHa, badapple, the installation is done and the mouse works now.23:43
UhriventisWeird.23:43
UhriventisProbably because I didn't do a "Live Installation"23:43
knomebadapple, i don't know compiz at all. if you want to control where windows appear, check the package/application 'devilspie'23:43
badappleUhriventis, but you was doing the live instalation o.O ?23:44
badappleknome, ok i will =)23:44
UhriventisNo23:44
UhriventisIt was a graphical non-live installation.23:44
badappleUhriventis, a ok =)23:44
UhriventisNo desktop or anything. Just a little picture of the mouse and some swapping pictures of what to expect and features. Things of the like23:45
lyraeHow does one install themes in xubuntu?23:45
badappleUhriventis, couse i had a problem when i was installing in live mode so i changed it to non-live and worked .. it was stoping on select your country =(23:45
badapplelyrae, well compiz with emerald windows manager :P23:46
lyraebadapple, i didnt install emerald because the project is discontinued =(23:46
w30Unit193, HEY!!! fusesmb did the job for me. You are "da man". The bit coins are in the mail.23:46
Unit193!xfce-themes | lyrae23:46
ubottulyrae: Themes for Xfce4 are simply GTK2+ themes which means Gnome themes are also compatible with your xfce4 desktop. To install themes, unpack it in ~/.themes/  To install icons, unpack them to ~/.icons/ - Visit http://www.xfce-look.org/ for all kinds of eyecandy for your Xfce4 desktop! - See also !themes for other GNOME theme sites23:46
badappleUhriventis, i will undersand more if you tell it in spanish here #xubuntu-es :D ...23:46
Unit193w30: Awesome! Glad that helped! I have gigolo running on login so they are mounted with Gigolo, but on startup23:47
UhriventisOkay23:47
lyraethanks Unit19323:47
knome!themes23:48
ubottuTo change your theme in Xubuntu, go to Settings Manager » Appearance (GTK+ theme) or Settings Manager » Window Manager (xfwm4 theme) to change the theme - find more themes at http://xfce-look.org/23:48
w30Unit193, yeah, I did that too. It runs on login to the gui23:48
badapplelyrae, i use it and works fine for me =)23:50
zacariasis there a direct way (like right-click on the mouse) to add an application to a panel without all the steps (choosing "launcher", then the command, then the icon) in Xubuntu 10.10?23:53

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