[00:08] <lilstevie> Quintasan: pong
[00:09] <lilstevie> phh: you should also look at the tf for size, it is similar size to most netbooks
[00:10] <phh> tf ?
[00:10] <lilstevie> transformer
[00:10] <phh> way out of price for me
[00:10] <lilstevie> yeah, true
[00:10] <lilstevie> that is a killer
[00:11] <lilstevie> although with the keyboard dock attached it has 2 3600mAh batteries
[00:11] <phh> i've got 2 3600mAh batteries here too :D
[00:11] <lilstevie> nice :D
[00:11] <phh> err perhaps not 3600
[00:11] <phh> could be 2200
[00:11] <phh> lilstevie: just not hot swappable yet -_-'
[00:11] <lilstevie> what kind of battery life do you get
[00:11] <lilstevie> yeah mine aren't hot swappable either
[00:11] <phh> 6-8 hours per battery
[00:11] <lilstevie> one is in the tablet part, the other is in the dock
[00:12] <phh> lilstevie: yeah well but you can have both connected at the same time.
[00:12] <lilstevie> I get close to 10h per battery
[00:12] <lilstevie> and yeah true
[00:12] <phh> with wifi ?
[00:12] <lilstevie> on average I get 19.5 hours between charges
[00:12] <lilstevie> yeah, and bt
[00:13] <lilstevie> I don't rf kill either device, wifi is always connected, bt is on, but not connected
[00:13] <phh> (without wifi ac100 eats 1W less -_-')
[00:13] <lilstevie> nice
[00:13] <phh> not really
[00:13] <phh> that means wifi chip totally sucks
[00:13] <lilstevie> ah true
[00:14] <lilstevie> I am very internet centric, so I have no idea what radioless power draw is
[00:14] <phh> what is your wifi chip ?
[00:14] <lilstevie> BCM4329
[00:15] <phh> a mobile one, not like ac100's.
[00:15] <lilstevie> ah
[00:15] <phh> on ac100 it's just a stupid usb wifi thing
[00:15] <lilstevie> which one?
[00:15] <phh> rt2830
[00:17] <lilstevie> ah
[00:17] <lilstevie> the other tegra device I have has a power hungry wifi chipset, but it isn't important, cause it has no battery
[00:18] <phh> trimslice ?
[00:18] <lilstevie> yeah
[00:19] <phh> well ac100 is low power only because it's based on tegra2, not because toshiba anyhow tried to make it low power
[00:20] <lilstevie> where did that libflashplayer.so come from btw
[00:20] <phh> atrix
[00:20] <lilstevie> ah
[00:20] <phh> their dock uses a plain L4T
[00:20] <lilstevie> ah I see
[00:22] <lilstevie> I have been using it on my tf, I was just wondering what was so special about it, cause a newer version would be nice
[00:23] <phh> well just check atrix's updates and see if there is a newer libflashplayer.so in it :p
[00:25] <lilstevie> :p
[00:25] <lilstevie> now that I know where it is from I can :p
[02:06] <tony_abad> Hi.  Does anyone know where I can grab the kernel headers for kernel 3.0.4-x3?
[02:40] <tony_abad> Hi.  Does anyone know where I can grab the kernel headers for kernel 3.0.4-x3?
[10:10] <Quintasan> lilstevie: Ah, are you going to stick around a little more longer? Got some stuff to do
[12:11] <rtyuio> hello anyone there ? `
[12:12] <rtyuio> can we install ubuntu 10.10 on ARM processor ?
[12:17] <rtyuio> anyone there ?
[12:21] <gildean> yes
[12:22] <rtyuio> can we install ubuntu 10.10 on ARM processor ?
[12:23] <gildean> linux is installable on many arm-based systems and boards
[12:23] <gildean> but as the field is way more scattered than x86, you basically need support for your soc/board
[12:25] <gildean> also, 11.10 has been released with semi-official support to a few different arm-systems
[12:25] <gildean> but there are quite a lot of different versions and projects floating around
[12:25] <gildean> for almost every possible system
[12:26] <rtyuio> well, i got this pc hercules ecafe hd this one http://www.hercules.com/fr/ecafe/bdd/p/156
[12:26] <rtyuio> with 7GB of hard drive just only
[12:27] <gildean> in the picture looks like ubuntu on the screen :D
[12:27] <rtyuio> how can i install ubuntu 11.10 without earasing th
[12:27] <rtyuio> actual OS
[12:27] <rtyuio> i mean in dual boot
[12:27] <gildean> i have no idea
[12:28] <rtyuio> yes it's an custimize 10.04 lucid version
[12:28] <gildean> perhaps the device has a linux-developer-wiki
[12:28] <rtyuio> what is the capacity of hard drive required to install ubuntu 11.10 ?
[12:28] <gildean> 8GB
[12:28] <gildean> iirc
[12:29] <gildean> or that's the recommendation
[12:29] <rtyuio> ok
[12:30] <rtyuio> so impossible to install ubuntu 11.10 on mypc
[12:30] <gildean> is there no sd-card slot?
[12:30] <gildean> for external install
[12:31] <rtyuio> yes sd card
[12:31] <rtyuio> got one sd car
[12:31] <rtyuio> sd card slot
[12:32] <gildean> if you can control the bootloader, then booting from sd-card should be no problem
[12:33] <rtyuio> i don't know even wath it is as an bootloader
[12:33] <gildean> you should try searching the web for a wiki/linux-docs about that particular device
[12:33] <rtyuio> how to control it ?
[12:33] <gildean> a bootloader boots the system with given parameters, ie. loads kernel and initrd to start the system
[12:34] <rtyuio> are you asking me to install grub2 on it ?
[12:34] <gildean> no
[12:34] <gildean> usually it's uboot or something similar
[12:34] <rtyuio> so i have to install uboot ?
[12:35] <gildean> as i said, you should try searching a developer-wiki about the particular device
[12:35] <gildean> you should get better answers from there about the boot process of that device
[12:36] <gildean> i can't give you any better answers about that particular device
[12:37] <gildean> as you see, things are nowhere near as unified on arm as on x86
[12:39] <rtyuio> ok perfect thanks gildean
[12:39] <rtyuio> i try to collect infos there
[12:41] <gildean> np, feel free to ask any more questions if some arise
[12:59] <rtyuio> well, can you tell why in all customized ubuntu OS there is an flasher player problem ?
[13:00] <gildean> there has been no official release of flash for arm on most devices
[13:00] <gildean> on linux that is
[13:01] <rtyuio> source code flash player available ?
[13:02] <gildean> lol?
[13:02] <rtyuio> why ?
[13:02] <lilstevie> just lol
[13:02] <gildean> you've seen much adobe source code then?
[13:04] <rtyuio> then how we can sell something which is not perfect ?
[13:04] <gildean> wat
[13:04] <gildean> you've seen many perfect products in your life?
[13:05] <rtyuio> each time i buy an customized OS device
[13:05] <rtyuio> i got flash player problem
[13:05] <rtyuio> this is the second time
[13:05] <gildean> you should've know to expect that
[13:05] <rtyuio> i buyed archos home with android where i got the same problem
[13:06] <rtyuio> same for my hervules
[13:06] <rtyuio> bercules
[13:06] <rtyuio> hercules
[13:09] <rtyuio> okay, there is nothing to do with the kernel
[13:09] <rtyuio> even reinstalling ubuntu in proper way will not troubleshoot the problem
[13:10] <gildean> it's just a matter of lacking proper flashplayer
[13:11] <ps2chiper> did you guys try the leaked TI flash player for x11?
[13:11] <ps2chiper> I have a friend that uses it on his pandaboard
[13:11] <gildean> i have only tegra2 devices myself
[13:12] <gildean> using the atrix flashplayer
[13:12] <gildean> hmm
[13:12] <ps2chiper> it supposedly works on all amr cortex devices that use x11
[13:12] <ps2chiper> arm*
[13:13] <gildean> maybe worth testing
[13:13] <gildean> got link?
[13:13] <ps2chiper> i got it saved on my pc, i will need a couple of minutes to upload it to a file sharing website.
[13:15] <rtyuio> no
[13:15] <brandini> no?
[13:16] <ps2chiper> im uploading it now to megashares
[13:18] <rtyuio> have i to install atrix flashplayer ?
[13:19] <ps2chiper> http://d01.megashares.com/dl/c80251b/2_flash_players.tar.gz
[13:19] <ps2chiper> i put 2 files in there
[13:19] <ps2chiper> try the larger 7.5MB ti file first
[13:21] <ps2chiper> the good one should be at adobe flash 10.1
[13:21] <ps2chiper> and it should work with all website normally as my friends reported to me
[13:21] <rtyuio> ok
[13:31] <rtyuio2> hello i m here
[13:32] <rtyuio> http://d01.megashares.com/dl/c80251b/2_flash_players.tar.gz
[13:32] <ps2chiper> the party died
[13:32] <gildean> ti version not working at least on trimslice
[13:33] <gildean> with nvidia alpha-drivers in use
[13:33] <ps2chiper> try the other one
[13:33] <gildean> maybe i should try without them
[13:33] <ps2chiper> I have 2 and only 1 works, i forget which one
[13:33] <gildean> ah, the other one is older and crappier than the one i already use
[13:33] <gildean> at least i think so
[13:33] <ps2chiper> also are you using it with firefox?
[13:34] <ps2chiper> My amlogic project is not working yet
[13:34] <ps2chiper> thats why im here. to find a dev that wants to work on it. so i wont be able to test personally
[13:35] <rtyuio> how to install ?
[13:36] <rtyuio> i just finish the download
[13:37] <rtyuio> i got 2 files libflashyer.so and .so.ti
[13:37] <rtyuio> how to install ?
[13:37] <ps2chiper> just like you dont on x86 and firefox
[13:37] <ps2chiper> same thing
[13:37] <lilstevie> heh
[13:37] <lilstevie> on tegra devices I just use the atrix one, it just works
[13:37] <ps2chiper> copy and paste into the proper folder, one at a time
[13:38] <rtyuio> i don't get
[13:38] <ps2chiper> i mean you can only test one at a time
[13:38] <rtyuio> where i have to transfer libflashplayer.so ?
[13:38] <rtyuio> ok
[13:39] <rtyuio> where i have to transfer that file ?
[13:40] <ps2chiper> SOLUTION: you can use /home/<user>/.mozilla/plugin/ as plugin directory.
[13:40] <gildean> or /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin/
[13:41] <lilstevie> I almost want to rip apart my trimslice and custom case it
[13:41] <rtyuio> and i have to check with firefox ?
[13:41] <ps2chiper> yes
[13:41] <rtyuio> ok
[13:41] <rtyuio> let me check
[13:42] <gildean> lilstevie: what kind of custom case were you thinking about
[13:42] <lilstevie> a black one
[13:42] <lilstevie> :p
[13:43] <lilstevie> nah, I am thinking something car mountable
[13:43] <lilstevie> or at very least something that blends with my "all black" appliance tv set
[13:44] <gildean> well you could just sand and paint the metal cover it has
[13:45] <rtyuio> it don't work
[13:45] <gildean> as it functions dissipating the heat also
[13:45] <lilstevie> yeah, no
[13:45] <lilstevie> :p
[13:45] <lilstevie> I know it does
[13:45] <lilstevie> but it could be more effectively cooled :p
[13:46] <rtyuio> i put the file in /usr/b
[13:46] <rtyuio> i put the file in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugin
[13:46] <rtyuio> don't work
[13:46] <ps2chiper> what does it say in about:config when you type that into the url?
[13:47] <gildean> true, the cover gets about as hot as a transformer for a c=64
[13:47] <lilstevie> the cover feels like it is going to set my house on fire
[13:47] <rtyuio> i can see lots of things ps2chiper
[13:47] <rtyuio> accessibility ....
[13:48] <ps2chiper> hold on
[13:53] <rtyuio> ok
[13:54] <rtyuio> and this is what i got
[13:55] <rtyuio2> http://paste.ubuntu.com/716937/
[13:55] <ps2chiper> sorry, its been a while
[13:55] <rtyuio> on the terminal
[13:56] <rtyuio> it is not an permission issue ?
[14:07] <rtyuio> there ?
[14:11] <rtyuio> hello anyone there ?