[00:05] madsailor: Yes I think that's a well known one, just hang on a sec [00:05] bug 868628 [00:05] Launchpad bug 868628 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "Oneiric update to 3.0.6 (3.0.0-13.20) stable release (affects: 29) (dups: 9) (heat: 114)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/868628 [00:06] hmm [00:07] madsailor: Have you done an update yet ? [00:07] just a min...let me check [00:08] I have done updates. there are 9 more recommended pending, but none relate to the kernel. I will update them as well just for fun [00:09] madsailor: OK, I think this is the same as bug 844957 [00:09] Launchpad bug 844957 in debian (and 2 other projects) "Safely removing external (usb) hdd's can cause a kernel panic or system freeze (dup-of: 868628)" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/844957 [00:09] Launchpad bug 868628 in linux (Ubuntu Oneiric) (and 1 other project) "Oneiric update to 3.0.6 (3.0.0-13.20) stable release (affects: 29) (dups: 9) (heat: 114)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/868628 [00:09] madsailor: And is waiting for the bug fix kernel to be released; I think it's in the onieirc-proposed repo so you could test it to make sure [00:12] how would I go about doing that? [00:14] I guess a better question is: what is the line to add to software sources for oneric-proposed, and what packages would be relevant to the issue? [00:14] madsailor: Go into software sources, then the 'updates' tab and select Pre-released updates - now they aren't in for a reason - they're still being tested, so be careful [00:15] madsailor: Just the kernel I think [00:16] if I have problems with the kernel update, can I revert (Easily)? [00:17] I think you should find that on the grub boot menu you will have the previous kernel as well, make sure you know how to get to that - if not it might be just best to sit back and wait a few days for the update to be released [00:19] I dual-boot, so I see grub every boot-cycle. I think I might be a bit less adventurous, however, and wait for the update to be released. I just wondered if I could help with the issue, but it seems that a fix is already well underway. [00:19] Thanks for the help penguin42 [00:19] no problem [00:19] madsailor: Thanks for trying to report it - it's a common one that a lot of people are seeing though [00:21] penguin42, while I'm at it I have been unable to mount nfs shares in oneiric that worked fine in natty [00:21] hmm not sure about that [00:22] I'm sure the shares are fine, because other boxes on the network connect fine [00:22] * madsailor is searching for a matching issue on the bugtracker [00:28] I don't see anything that matches my issue. I run a standard command: sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.1.140:/mnt/user/Movies ~/Mounts/Movies [00:28] and how does it error? [00:28] and mount returns "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on" ... [00:29] I'd check you still have all the NFS client packages in [00:30] ahh, yes. [00:30] * madsailor checking [00:32] right, time to go [00:33] ok. thanks for the help. i think that's the issue...I just thought Ubuntu installed the nfs package out of the box [02:28] madsailor: was that the issue? (the lack of nfs packages installed?) === micahg_ is now known as micahg [03:51] hi all, my almost fresh install of 11.10 is locking up. I can't work out a cause. What can I do to submit a bug report on the issue? [03:57] greg-g, yes, that was the issue. Sorry for not reporting back on that one [04:02] bdmurray: ping [04:56] madsailor: no worries, just making sure :) [11:43] hey my ubuntu is not getting loaded its saying unable to mount /var/run [12:31] Hi all, bug 870560 has been marked as a duplicate of a bug that has seen less activity and was reported later. Is it OK if I reverse this or should I leave it alone? [12:31] Launchpad bug 870560 in jockey (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "installing fglrx (post-release updates) fails (dup-of: 873058)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/870560 [12:31] Launchpad bug 873058 in nvidia-common (Ubuntu) "Jockey fail to install binary ati driver (post release) version (affects: 34) (dups: 2) (heat: 60)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/873058 [12:32] hang on, why's a bug about ati driver in nvidia-common [12:45] penguin42: the bug I posted? It looks like it occurs on multiple cards === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:06] trijntje: But it's onl yin nvidia-common? [13:07] penguin42: no, I have an ati card myself, and I'm also having that bug [13:07] yeh, but that's what I mean the bug is filed against nvidia-common and I wondered why [13:12] probably because the person who submitted it thinks its nvidia related [16:29] charlie-tca: ping [16:30] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-p-bug-involvement [16:30] what do you think? [16:34] cprofitt: I wonder if the bugs that are badly reported come from those people who would go to user days and jams === dshufelt is now known as dsmitty [16:35] penguin42: was there a problem with the user days session on bugs in january? [16:35] * penguin42 didn't know about them [16:36] hm [16:36] so what did you mean? [16:37] if they're something being said during the user days bug session that's a problem it would be good to fix it :) [16:37] pleia2: cproffit's argument seems to be that if we train people at these things there will be a lot less bad bugs - may be true, but I wonder if a lot of the people who submit bad bugs just don't know about a lot of these things; they've just picked up a CD and installed [16:39] ah, so it wasn't specifically a problem with sessions at user days (indeed, maybe more good bug sessions can actually help?) [16:39] more of a problem with the people being new and encouraged to file bugs [16:39] pleia2: Correct, I wasn't saying there was anything wrong with the bug days [16:40] cprofitt: I subscribed. I think we should expand the whiteboard more, and put specifics down for discussion. [16:40] charlie-tca: will you be at UDS? [16:40] yes [16:40] great [16:40] I will be there. [16:41] charlie-tca: I agree -- please feel free to add more [16:41] but it is going to be a busy week, with leadership stuff, community stuff, dinner, etc. Looks like they are trying to fill all my time this time around. [16:41] I have been struggling to put my thoughts about it in to words [16:42] ooh... dinner [16:42] nice [16:42] cprofitt: I will add some to it, later this week. [16:42] We also have a session to discuss bug-squad mentorship program aagain [16:43] charlie-tca: yes, I subscribed to that [16:43] good, I am out of ideas on how to make that work now [16:44] I also emailed bdrung [16:44] bdmurray: [16:44] sorry not the other bd [16:45] heh [16:45] tab-complete is so handy ;) [16:45] yep. [17:52] yofel: Ping (or any other KDE user) [17:53] ah, it's bug 856210 [17:53] Launchpad bug 856210 in libreoffice (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Horizontal Scrollbar in kde dont work (default theme) (affects: 6) (heat: 39)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/856210 [18:00] is any body having the issue of keyboard frezing? [18:01] bil21al: I haven't but I read one bug report about it; what type of keyboard - PS/2 or USB, and does it freze for ever or just for a few seconds? [18:01] it freez for some sec if i wait for a moment than it again works [18:01] which bug? [18:01] hmm that's not the bug I saw [18:02] than whts the way i chose to overcome it? [18:02] it's difficult without knowing why it's happening - PS/2 or USB? [18:03] i have laptop.IBM t 60 [18:04] penguin42: I know that one, but had other things to look at [18:04] yofel: It's a nasty one; still - easy work around from that report [18:05] yofel and penguin42 please help! its irrating me alot [18:05] bil21al: I don't know why your machine is freezing! [18:05] another workaround would be using the middle mouse button, that work, just not the left one [18:05] *that works [18:05] bil21al: You need to see what else happens during the freeze; does the mouse still work? Is there anything in the log? [18:05] yes mouse works [18:06] yofel: The scrolling with the scrollwheel is painful, it over scrolls slowly; nuking libreoffice-kde is the easiest fix [18:06] with the freez [18:07] is there any way to reset the key board like there is away to reset the unity ? [18:07] its not a hardware problem and it hapened today with me i have not run any update or any thing [18:10] penguin42 which bug you have seen can you give me the bug number? [18:11] bil21al: bug 878501 - but it may not be the same as yours - for him it stops and never comes back [18:11] Launchpad bug 878501 in xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "ps/2 keyboard not working [irqbalance?] (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878501 [18:11] * yofel gets frequent ~500ms freezes with nouveau on his notebook - but not 2s or more [18:12] yofel: Youch [18:13] yeah, one more reason why I'm using the proprietary driver [18:13] penguin42 can i file bug? [18:13] bil21al: Sure [18:13] * penguin42 goes to get food [18:14] * [18:20] penguin42 in which pakage i file it? [18:21] in which pake i file the bug of launchpad? [18:21] pakage? === emma is now known as em [19:32] about the discussion above -- my view is LP is an expert system, not for the casual user. We need an end-user solution outside LP [20:10] hggdh: for what ? [22:00] lifeless: to collect the casual user comments. Perhaps askubuntu/forum already do that, but we need to harvest them [22:04] hggdh: I think in other organizations that's done by a separate team that can then report or create bugs based on those issues [22:07] hggdh: what sort of comments ? === cipher is now known as Guest67818 [22:37] lifeless: an user has a problem, perhaps a bug. But the user does not have enough technical knowledge to (correctly) open a bug. [22:37] micahg: yes, something like that [22:38] lifeless: so this user comments (somewhere) about this self-perceived issue; eventually this may be escalated to a bug on LP [22:38] hggdh: I think defining bug as being technical description is overly narrow [22:38] we're looking at consolidating blueprints, answers and bugs into one system [22:39] lifeless: is there a session on that during UDS? I would really like to participate, if you do not mind [22:39] lifeless: of course, integration would most certainly be a plus [22:42] micahg, lifeless: one thing, for example, would be to mine the google query database for common issues, and --somehow, depends on what they are -- address them [22:43] hggdh: https://dev.launchpad.net/IssueTracker [22:44] hggdh: no session planned, but thats our current thinking on the problem [22:44] lifeless: perfect, I will read it. Thank you very much, sir [22:45] de nada [22:47] heh. Muito obrigado, então :-) === emma is now known as em [23:31] hey all [23:55] lifeless: what would happen to "Get Help Online...", would that button just go away?