[13:22] <cjohnston> greg-g: St. Lucia has great diving
[14:46] <mhall119> a little humor for everyone's Sunday afternoon: http://mhall119.com/2011/10/if-linux-was-a-car-haters-edition/
[14:53] <pangolin> mhall119: great post :)
[15:37] <nigelb> mhall119: <3
[15:37] <nigelb> Great post!
[15:42] <mhall119> thanks
[16:49] <greg-g> cjohnston: ah, awesome.
[16:57] <nigelb> greg-g!
[16:57] <nigelb> How are ya?
[16:58] <greg-g> nigelb! I'm good :)
[16:59] <nigelb> greg-g: How's California treatin' ya?
[17:02] <greg-g> nigelb: good good. it is another beautiful day today :)
[17:03] <greg-g> this place might help me get back into running more regularly :)
[17:04] <nigelb> greg-g: Met pleia2 and other .ca gang?
[17:04] <nigelb> s/.ca/.us.ca/g
[17:05] <greg-g> yeah, me up with pleia2 and some new -us-ca people I didn't know about at the release party
[17:05] <greg-g> s/me/met/
[17:05] <nigelb> btw, paultag is in MV!
[17:06] <nigelb> For a few days or so I think, the GSoC mentors summit.
[17:06] <greg-g> yeah, saw that. My office is down in MV, I should email him
[17:06] <czajkowski> aloha
[17:08] <nigelb> Ah, neat.
[17:08] <nigelb> czajkowski: Liked the rugby ending? :)
[17:08] <czajkowski> well was ok
[17:08] <czajkowski> i like nz winning
[17:08] <nigelb> :)
[17:09] <czajkowski> over the others that were left
[17:09] <nigelb> How far did England go?
[17:36] <bkerensa> so just a FYI
[17:37] <bkerensa> the first UEFI boot laptops are rolling out
[17:37] <bkerensa> a member of our LoCo's relative bought a HP the other day and it reject Ubuntu
[17:37] <bkerensa> wont let grub be installed
[17:41] <popey> which model?
[17:41] <AlanBell> ooh
[17:41] <AlanBell> any option in the bios to turn it off?
[17:41] <popey> and how are you sure it's UEFI and not just the 'its got 4 primary partitions' issue?
[17:42] <AlanBell> and will they send it back as defective?
[17:42] <popey> I would be surprised if this is secure boot given the management of keys isnt even settled yet
[17:45] <czajkowski> nigelb: it got out of the pool stage http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/home/standings/index.html
[17:45] <nigelb> czajkowski: ah
[17:46] <czajkowski> so to knock outs after that
[17:58] <bkerensa> popey: Let me grab it from my e-mail
[17:59] <bkerensa> popey: "My friend recently got an HP s5-1110 with Win 7 installed. UEFI has prevented the installation of GRUB on this machine. I could find no way in the BIOS to disable the feature and so far, as I work my way up the HP tech support ladder, I have found no HP techs who have a clue what I'm talking about."
[17:59]  * bkerensa is going to be blogging about it soon... Reaching out to HP's PR people to see if they have comment
[18:01] <czajkowski> bkerensa: I'm now following aqs advice and will only buy from a listed machine if possible http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/make/HP
[18:01] <czajkowski> but that does seem to differ from country to country
[18:02] <bkerensa> czajkowski: And what happens when those machines get sold out over time and are replaced with UEFI boot machines?
[18:02] <bkerensa> :_)
[18:02] <bkerensa> thats where the problem lies
[18:04] <czajkowski> bkerensa: well for me right now, I'm looking at a new machine possibly post december when i get back working as current old lappy is kinda on a death bed with battery life and I've replaced it twice.
[18:04] <czajkowski> i will if i can buy a certifed lts machine and yes if i chose to upgrade it, it wont be covered as they are tested to lts, but i think it's a nice standard to see and you can view the list to give you an idea of what is or isn't compatable
[23:50] <akgraner> So I am prepping for my UDS interviews - Are there any questions you all want me to ask - I'm interviewing Linaro and Canonical people so email me your questions if I use them I'll attribute them to you...
[23:51] <akgraner> (I'll blog about it tomorrow)  but thought I'd ask you all too
[23:52] <akgraner> jcasto  - I already added dpm and dholbach as well as jono's questions to my spreadsheet, but I can't for the life of me narrow down what I want to talk to you about...if you have thoughts please add them to the spreadsheet (yeah yeah  - I know I have a thing for spreadsheets)