| MarkDude | http://www.flickr.com/photos/tatadbb/6267812026 Penguin fingernails- too cool | 01:31 |
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| akk | :) | 01:34 |
| akk | MarkDude! 8 cape gooseberries dropped, just today alone! I put some on my hamburger at dinner. :) | 01:34 |
| MarkDude | On burgers? That sounds good | 01:35 |
| * MarkDude just looked today, he has like 20+cherries and at least that many flowers | 01:35 | |
| * MarkDude promised ladyfriend some gooseberry salsa- hope it happens by Thanksgiving | 01:36 | |
| MarkDude | The tomatoes I got from iheartubuntu were yellow | 01:39 |
| * MarkDude had critters eat them. I managed to keep a few | 01:39 | |
| akk | I had no luck with tomatoes this year. | 01:42 |
| akk | The few I got had bites in them by the time they were ripe. | 01:42 |
| * MarkDude pulled a couple of them early | 01:47 | |
| MarkDude | let them ripen in the kitchen | 01:47 |
| MarkDude | Where I was guarding them with a baseball bat- just in case | 01:48 |
| akk | heh | 01:51 |
| === rbarot__ is now known as rbarot_ | ||
| bkerensa | Hooray | 04:16 |
| * bkerensa finally got Canonical people to show up | 04:16 | |
| bkerensa | :D | 04:16 |
| pleia2 | yay! | 04:17 |
| bkerensa | and one of them is in charge of apparently Ubuntu Foundation Product Engineering | 04:18 |
| bkerensa | not sure what that means but he asked why we were not an approved LoCo | 04:19 |
| bkerensa | :D | 04:19 |
| pleia2 | haha, I don't know what that means either | 04:19 |
| pleia2 | I didn't even think the ubuntu foundation was an active thing | 04:19 |
| bkerensa | and I told him because I was told not to apply yet by someone on council | 04:19 |
| bkerensa | :D | 04:19 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: I didnt either | 04:19 |
| bkerensa | lol | 04:19 |
| pleia2 | yeah, it takes a while for locos to prove they are sustainable | 04:19 |
| bkerensa | ;) | 04:23 |
| bkerensa | Oregon has been around since 2005 :P | 04:23 |
| MarkDude | Ubuntu Foundation Product Engineering? There is a title for a business card that takes a bit to say AND explain | 04:23 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: Yeah I thought the foundation was like the national guard of Ubuntu... It only activates if Canonical fails | 04:24 |
| bkerensa | :D | 04:24 |
| MarkDude | lol | 04:25 |
| bkerensa | Looks like I might be doing a Ubuntu talk at Yahoo soon | 04:26 |
| bkerensa | lol | 04:26 |
| bkerensa | We just announced it at the release party that Yahoo may host a brown bag lunch seminar | 04:26 |
| bkerensa | :D | 04:26 |
| MarkDude | Good deal | 04:26 |
| bkerensa | and also Debian UG here is looking for help finding sponsors and venues so the Canonical guys asked if I might wanna try and mash loco events together and help them | 04:27 |
| bkerensa | idk | 04:27 |
| bkerensa | :P | 04:27 |
| * MarkDude spoke at Yahoo classroom | 04:27 | |
| MarkDude | well make it a packaging and bug event | 04:27 |
| bkerensa | it was going to be a bug event | 04:27 |
| bkerensa | :D | 04:27 |
| MarkDude | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au7Vm88aVuU | 04:28 |
| MarkDude | LAst official Ubuntu talk I gave\ | 04:28 |
| * MarkDude had already switched to Fedora | 04:28 | |
| MarkDude | had already commited to talk | 04:28 |
| MarkDude | Damn good talk I think | 04:28 |
| MarkDude | part of it might work for yours | 04:28 |
| MarkDude | at least the community part | 04:29 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: I do ubuntu hour + debian dinner to support my local debianites (of which I am one) | 04:29 |
| MarkDude | Especially focus on how all of these FOSS projects SHARE much in common | 04:29 |
| pleia2 | so we do coffee for an hour with ubuntu, and then dinner with debian folks across the street | 04:29 |
| bkerensa | :D | 04:30 |
| MarkDude | btw, I am still open to doing talks on Ubuntu bkerensa | 04:30 |
| bkerensa | Yeah well I will probably do such too pleia2 | 04:30 |
| * bkerensa is going to try and break off some tasks to other members | 04:30 | |
| bkerensa | so I can not have as heavy a work load | 04:30 |
| bkerensa | ;D | 04:30 |
| pleia2 | good :) | 04:30 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: It has to happen or I will burnout again | 04:31 |
| bkerensa | =/ | 04:31 |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: it has to happen anyway, that's how communities grow :) | 04:32 |
| pleia2 | one person holding all the keys and responsibilities is doomed to failure, bad bus factor | 04:32 |
| MarkDude | pleia2, is (as usual ) correct | 04:32 |
| MarkDude | :) | 04:32 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: Indeed | 04:33 |
| bkerensa | :D | 04:33 |
| bkerensa | Well I got two people who will be handling wiki | 04:33 |
| pleia2 | great | 04:33 |
| bkerensa | and now I just need to find someone to handle meeting minutes and act in my absentia for meetings because obviously I cannot make every meeting | 04:33 |
| bkerensa | :P | 04:33 |
| bkerensa | and as things move on more roles will be created | 04:34 |
| * pleia2 nods | 04:34 | |
| MarkDude | meetbot? | 04:35 |
| MarkDude | alanbell had a good goer I think he called it | 04:36 |
| MarkDude | From U- uk | 04:36 |
| pleia2 | meetingology is the new one | 04:37 |
| bkerensa | yeah | 04:37 |
| bkerensa | we have to request it to join our channel right? | 04:37 |
| pleia2 | but it's not automatic, you still need to copy/paste the minutes into a wiki, tell people about it | 04:37 |
| pleia2 | yeah | 04:37 |
| bkerensa | :P | 04:37 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: The canonical employee just joined our channel the foundation guy | 04:38 |
| bkerensa | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SteveLangasek | 04:38 |
| bkerensa | thats his wiki | 04:38 |
| pleia2 | ah yes, vorlon :) | 04:40 |
| bkerensa | LOL | 04:40 |
| bkerensa | do you know of him? | 04:40 |
| bkerensa | :D | 04:40 |
| pleia2 | he did debian alpha back in the day | 04:40 |
| pleia2 | of course | 04:40 |
| pleia2 | he's been around forever | 04:40 |
| bkerensa | Yeah... We went to have drinks at Ground Kontrol after the party and told him about the new Pac Man machine | 04:40 |
| pleia2 | cool | 04:41 |
| bkerensa | and he stopped us and said "New" and "Pac-Man" should not exist together | 04:41 |
| bkerensa | :P | 04:41 |
| pleia2 | he's at all the UDSes | 04:41 |
| bkerensa | Yep | 04:41 |
| bkerensa | apparently its required | 04:41 |
| bkerensa | lol | 04:41 |
| bkerensa | or heavily encouraged | 04:41 |
| bkerensa | Every Canonical person I know in Portland/WA is going and thats a lot of people | 04:41 |
| pleia2 | it depends on your job, there are a lot of canonical departments that don't go (the ubuntu training folks never went when their department existed, it was a bummer) | 04:42 |
| pleia2 | but he definitely would :) | 04:42 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: You guys using that flickr account yet? | 04:56 |
| bkerensa | :) | 04:56 |
| * bkerensa is uploading his first set to it.... Still gotta add photos from my personal acct | 04:57 | |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: we've had one since february and use it, it just wasn't pro | 04:59 |
| bkerensa | oh | 05:01 |
| bkerensa | :D | 05:01 |
| bkerensa | yeah... I kinda wish Google would try and acquire Flickr | 05:01 |
| bkerensa | :P | 05:01 |
| bkerensa | from Yahoo | 05:01 |
| pleia2 | lol | 05:01 |
| bkerensa | Picasa is uhh idk | 05:02 |
| bkerensa | :) | 05:02 |
| pleia2 | I wouldn't be so kind | 05:02 |
| pleia2 | men picasa | 05:02 |
| bkerensa | its like Blogger... Just meh :) | 05:02 |
| pleia2 | meh too | 05:02 |
| pleia2 | bbl | 05:02 |
| bkerensa | I feel Google comes up with great ideas for products but then runs around like a person with ADHD and fails to nurture them into decent products | 05:02 |
| bkerensa | kk | 05:02 |
| MarkDude | bkerensa, sp / feel / KNOW | 05:05 |
| MarkDude | They get more distracted by shiny objects than I do | 05:06 |
| bkerensa | MarkDude: or its the free snacks and scooters? | 05:08 |
| bkerensa | :D | 05:08 |
| bkerensa | and the being able to do your own project | 05:08 |
| bkerensa | I think that takes away from productivity | 05:09 |
| bkerensa | when they are constantly spending time trying to make their pet projects into the next big thing while letting their previous next big things die due to lack of development | 05:09 |
| MarkDude | aaditya, pingy | 17:35 |
| pleia2 | jdeslip: we'll be coming up to berkeleylug today :) | 17:35 |
| pleia2 | (we'll probably be late, mornings are difficult) | 17:41 |
| bkerensa | pleia2: It has begun "My friend recently got an HP s5-1110 with Win 7 installed. UEFI has prevented the installation of GRUB on this machine. I could find no way in the BIOS to disable the feature and so far, as I work my way up the HP tech support ladder, I have found no HP techs who have a clue what I'm talking about." | 17:59 |
| * bkerensa will be blogging about it soon | 17:59 | |
| pleia2 | bkerensa: I saw in -community-team :) | 18:05 |
| pleia2 | I haven't really been following the UEFI stuff | 18:05 |
| philipballew | bkerensa, the bios makers might not be hp? | 18:12 |
| philipballew | like phoenix bios for instance | 18:13 |
| akk | They're actually *selling* machines like that already? :( | 18:26 |
| nhaines | philipballew: yeah, but HP tells Phoenix what they want. | 19:31 |
| philipballew | ah, that is a valid point nhaines. | 19:33 |
| akk | And if phoenix said "we only provide bioses that are locked down now, no other options" (seems extremely unlikely) HP doesn't have to use phoenix. | 19:53 |
| akk | If HP is really shipping machines like that now, please do blog it and get everyone to mirror/retweet/slashdot etc. | 19:54 |
| akk | Need to get the word out what machines NOT to buy (and make sure HP sees that happening). | 19:54 |
| Faqtotum | they'll see what they wanna see | 19:55 |
| jtatum | uefi doesn't prevent installation of grub | 20:15 |
| jtatum | or grub2 | 20:15 |
| jtatum | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFIBooting | 20:15 |
| jtatum | there was a spec for this back in maverick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/Specs/MaverickUefiSupport | 20:19 |
| nhaines | jtatum: uefi has a secure boot feature that prevents changing the bootloader on PCs with it enabled, unless the code is signed. | 21:10 |
| nhaines | jtatum: All Windows 8 certified machines are required to support this feature and enable it by default. | 21:10 |
| Faqtotum | haha | 21:10 |
| Faqtotum | sneaky intel | 21:11 |
| nhaines | Faqtotum: Palladium by hook or crook, I guess. | 21:11 |
| Faqtotum | it's inkjet printers all over again | 21:14 |
| Faqtotum | and people STILL buy those | 21:14 |
| philipballew | i decided to learn vi this week. I wonder how far I will get | 22:14 |
| Faqtotum | it doesn't take a week | 22:16 |
| pleia2 | it takes 5 minutes and a lifetime ;) | 22:17 |
| Faqtotum | yes. | 22:18 |
| philipballew | i can type things and write, but i'm thinking I need to learn to do it faster | 22:21 |
| grantbow | :help and look for the "30 minute" tutor session | 22:22 |
| philipballew | I watched some you tube videos. that’s about it so far. | 22:23 |
| * philipballew enters :help | 22:23 | |
| grantbow | some students here raved about how useful it was. | 22:26 |
| grantbow | however it took me more than 30 minutes and them a lot longer fyi | 22:26 |
| philipballew | It seems like it will help. I mean vi is a lot faster then nano for me | 22:28 |
| grantbow | Glad to hear it looks helpful for you :-) | 22:29 |
| pleia2 | vimtutor | 22:29 |
| pleia2 | is good | 22:29 |
| grantbow | since @olpcsf doesn't have an IRC channel... @pleia2 are you going to the party in Bolinas tonight? | 22:30 |
| pleia2 | grantbow: no, and I wasn't at the summit | 22:31 |
| pleia2 | this is my only weekend home this month, spending it running errands and catching up on projects (going to pick up some furniture in a few minutes!) | 22:31 |
| grantbow | \o/ furniture | 22:31 |
| philipballew | NEW STUFF! | 22:32 |
| pleia2 | yes :) office stuff! | 22:32 |
| philipballew | pleia2, well if it is gonna make you more productive with work then it should be worth it. | 22:39 |
| nhaines | vi has two modes: beep repeatedly and break everything. | 23:16 |
| Faqtotum | oooh, you have the version that beeps?? fancy... | 23:18 |
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