[01:35] binarymutant: how's the bot doing? :) [01:35] :shrug: I don't pay attention to it that mich :D [01:35] :P [01:35] ok how are you doing? [01:36] good, rewatching Lost. How about you? [01:36] oh doing pretty good, actually using my desktop for once [01:37] what's on the pc? [01:37] arch linux [01:37] gnome shell [01:37] cool [01:37] when we moved i did a fresh install, no windows at all or anything else [01:37] Archy-Gnome [01:37] yep Unit193 :) [01:38] so do you use archy-gnome for everything? Or different things for different devices? [01:38] binarymutant: i'm really liking archy-gnome :) i use it on most things that I use [01:38] now for others its ubuntu [01:38] ah :D [01:38] and I have an ubuntu partition on my laptop also [01:39] and an arch kde partition, so i have the big 2.5 desktops :) [01:41] * wrst doesn't hate unity any more [01:41] oh ya? [01:41] why not? [01:41] well its better still gets in the way but atleast it doesn't crash :) [01:41] true [01:42] If they moved the menubar to the bottom, it would be great [01:42] binarymutant: how about they let you move things around to where you want them? :) [01:43] i like the dock concept but os X i think has the best placement [01:43] default should be on bottom. [01:43] or top. but for sure not on the sides [01:43] but i think how gnome shell does the dock to the left is better than unity you have to hit the hot corner to activate it not just anywhere on the left [01:44] would you place the bar on the left if you had the choice? [01:45] hmm no, but... how gnome shell does it i don't mind it if that makes sense [01:45] I get that [01:46] i am playing with some video my laptop does hd but only 720 so haven't got to see fully how my camera works :) [01:47] 720 is great quality [01:48] yes it is that's what our tv is, yet i have a comptuer monitor that does 1080 :) [01:49] prolly more than that [01:49] yeah it does [01:50] my laptop does better than i thought it would however had it hooked to our tv last night as dual monitors and it powered both ok [01:51] that's cool, I like that tvs are now just computers [01:52] brb dieing for nicotine [01:52] * Unit193 thinks you should try L or X Ubuntu [01:54] Unit193: me? [01:54] binarymutant: you must be quitting? [01:54] Sure, why not? [01:55] Unit193: i have used lubuntu before its nice, but on the low spec machine i was using to record audio only i could set up arch with gnome, using the fallback mode and its quicker and more stable than lubuntu on that machine [01:56] Awww :( [01:56] for me on low spec stuff ubuntu just has a little too much bloat on a stock isntall [01:57] but that's doing something very specialized, i didn't even have a web browser on that machine for a while :) [01:57] Yeah, I tried AntiX, it seemed good (but still Debian-ish based) [01:57] antix?? hmm i need to look that one up [01:58] hmm debian testing and mepis that's interesting [01:58] http://antix.mepis.org/ [01:58] but Unit193 i love debian based [02:00] wrst: say that again 5 times fast, for clarity (after all, thought you loved arch) [02:01] cyberanger: i love them both :) [02:01] but arch just has latest packages and no upgrades [02:01] as i tell people instead of breaking my system once every 6 months i break it every time I update :) [02:01] but actually never had it to break [02:02] and ubuntu's upgrades seem to always have a nagging issue and debian just doesn't have the up to dateness i like on the desktop, but if my home server goes again, it will more than likely be debian [02:04] wrst: and debian testing? [02:04] cyberanger: still too stale [02:04] do they have gnome 3 yet? [02:04] last time i looked you had to use expiremental [02:04] ok, fine, debian sid [02:05] cyberanger: http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/ [02:05] * cyberanger tries to click on that link from the command line, settles for elinks ;-) [02:06] :P [02:06] i think i will pass on sid, i have a feeling that would be a little bit of a headache :) [02:07] maybe a tiny bit [02:08] ha ha yeah arch has enough testing to be stable [02:09] wrst: trying to quit, sort of [02:12] chris4585: /invite #swissknife-router [02:12] i have never smoked, but man i can't quit eating i can't imagine having to quit smoking [02:13] binarymutant: kinda thought there is, and isn't (or your way of saying, long and painful process or one step forward, two steps back) [02:13] to quit eating: smoke; to quit smoking: eat; seems to be how I reduced to about 3-4 cigs a day [02:14] happy middle ground?\ [02:14] smoke enough to not be fat but not enough to get cancer? :) [02:14] lol [02:14] It's not cancer I worry about, it's my wallet [02:14] that too [02:14] :D [02:15] lol [15:26] ha speaking of bitcoins (not too long ago) https://www.casascius.com/ [17:47] gah. Just learned a life lesson: Someone asks for advice don't give it until the contract is signed. [17:48] Farm asks me about a site; I go down the list of things to be done; next day it's implemented by someone else :/ [18:36] yep, that one always sting [18:43] definitly