/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/10/23/#xubuntu.txt

GridCubezacarias, drag and drop from the start menu00:09
knomeGridCube, not in 10.10...00:09
GridCubeoh00:10
GridCube10.1000:10
zacariasGridCube, knome: if I try to click the application in the menu to drag it, it will just be launched. But there should be a simple way like that00:12
knomezacarias, there is in 11.1000:12
zacariasknome: yes, but I had problems (ppc related) with booting after installing 11.10, so I came back to 10.1000:13
knomezacarias, i'm sorry, but there isn't an easier way to create launchers in 10.1000:14
GridCubeyou have to manually create them then00:14
zacariasknome: sure, thanks anyway ;-)00:14
giacguicciaHello everyone, I'm new in Xubuntu, and I'm a beginner. Where do I find the audio settings menu? The path to be clear. Thanks in the meantime, I do not know if it is the right room for my problem.00:16
knomegiacguiccia, what is the real problem?00:16
lyraeis there a tool to manage themes? or do we just post them in .themes folder (which is weird i had to create because it didnt exist)00:17
knomelyrae, not really. there is /usr/share/themes/, which is where the preinstalled themes are00:17
knomelyrae, ~/.themes is for your user only00:17
giacguicciaI can not find the audio settings menu..00:18
lyraeknome, i see. thanks00:18
knomegiacguiccia, what do you want to change?00:18
GridCubegiacguiccia, what version of xubuntu are you using?00:18
giacguicciaI need to set the outputs via skype, you know?00:18
giacguiccia11.1000:18
GridCubeyou should have a small speaker icon near the hour/date, clic on it, and go to the configuration option00:19
giacguicciaIn Ubuntu, i resolve my problem with this procedure:00:21
giacguicciaYou move on inputs and two bars to find 100%00:21
giacguicciaThose are the two channels of digital audio that is talked about.00:21
giacguicciaYou must unlock the toolbars by clicking the lock icon on the right and set the first audio channel and the second at 75% to 0%00:21
giacguicciaAnd now that i'm using Xubuntu i've to understand...00:21
giacguiccia:(00:21
GridCubegiacguiccia, gnome =/= xfce00:21
knomegiacguiccia, install pavucontrol and run it00:21
giacguicciaWait a minute, i try to install pavucontrol00:22
giacguicciaok problem solved00:27
giacguiccia;)00:27
giacguicciaNow i've another problem...00:28
knomegoing to bed. see you later00:28
giacguicciaOk, thank-you knome.00:28
giacguicciasee you later.00:28
GridCubegiacguiccia, shoot00:28
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giacguicciai installed Treb, you know?00:29
giacguicciaIt allows you to see displayed all your social networks00:30
giacguicciaGridCube are you there?00:32
XubuntuZombiehello?00:46
k5lkHowdy. Looking for help with Thunar file manager browsing network shares. Having to resort to Nautilus for now with Xubuntu.01:07
rez`what is the apt command for upgrade too 11.10?02:15
Unit193rez`: If you're on 11.04, sudo do-release-upgrade02:21
lyraeI cannot get themes to work properly. I must be doing it wrong or something02:28
mkultra__xubuntu is broken on ubuntu 11.1004:43
mkultra__cant change workspaces from 2x2 to 4x104:43
mkultra__xfapplet is broken also04:43
well_laid_lawn!bugs05:10
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.05:10
zusdoes thunar have a "seamonkey" GpG" like nautilus does for encryption?05:39
mkultra__you can always install both if it doesnt, i run both05:41
zusi wasnt sure if itll be draggin in too many nautilus junk05:44
mkultra__im not too sure about what your asking, but...  thunar has a section where you can build external commands as menu commands to be run.....  so "seamonkey" can be called directly from the program05:48
mkultra__if its like "gksu gpg" then it can be built in05:48
zusok.05:49
zusthanks mkultra__05:52
mkultra__yeah no problem, i know this from building a gksu gnome-terminal for it05:53
zusim trying to find  how to do this  :)05:54
zusi'd like to bring in my gpg keys from when i was on 10.0405:55
mkultra__http://www.gnupg.org/related_software/frontends.html06:15
mkultra__find its front end06:15
mkultra__then alt + f2 front end command06:15
mkultra__http://projects.gnome.org/seahorse/06:16
mkultra__so like alt + f2 seahorse does ur keys, so you would insert a command for sea horse in thunar06:16
mkultra__its in "edit" then custom actions06:17
mkultra__then appearence conditions will determine when the command shows up in your right click menus06:17
spantherThank you so much for this awesome release of Xubuntu! Theme and workflow is awesome06:19
mkultra__my xubuntu update just broke tons of shit06:21
spantherDid you install fresh from media or updated online?06:22
mkultra__update06:22
mkultra__xfapplets broke work space problems06:23
mkultra__it should not make a difference06:24
spantherMostly, Ubuntu and all it's sub distros has these issues :) better ever fresh install new, if a new release is out. you can just use your /home folder and so you don't lose data.06:24
mkultra__i dont have too much data on here06:25
mkultra__im definately going to move the x files over though06:25
mkultra__switch my partitioning scheme up06:25
mkultra__run gentoo as a base os, then vm ubuntu to help noobs06:25
mkultra__ubuntu is hideous06:26
spantherok then backup and make a fresh install. it's recommended :) these version freezes and jumps like any non rolling release distro has (ubuntu, debian, opensuse and so on) can give issues when big changes occur06:26
mkultra__ive never seen anything like this06:27
spantherbest is to use 3 partitions. one / one swap and one /home. so you can freshly install ubuntu ever again at / while still having all your data untouched at /home :)06:27
mkultra__gentoo can distro update everything no problem06:27
mkultra__im gonna do 406:27
mkultra__storage partition06:27
mkultra__then garbage central06:27
mkultra__so i can wipe garbage central out06:27
spanthergentoo is rolling release :)06:27
spantherthere are no big jumps between versions06:28
mkultra__so i would of been better off installing sources by hand than letting the ubuntu devs smash shit up?06:28
spantherbut with distros not using rolling release cycle, you have jumps, cause software versions get a freeze and then make a big jump, when the new distro compilation is out.06:29
mkultra__lol i was an ubuntu fan for about 2 seconds06:29
mkultra__its a good distro for noobs06:29
spantherthat's how it works. windows is the same :)06:29
mkultra__windows blows ass06:29
spantherand most other distros with linux too06:29
spantheronly a few have rolling release cycles. most have version freeze steps.06:30
ballComputers suck generally.06:30
mkultra__indeed06:30
mkultra__at least linux is a little bit of fun smashing shit06:30
spantherif you just use 3 partitions like i said, you can reinstall the new version (doesn't take more time) and have all your configs and data files on /home untouched.06:30
mkultra__windows is fun for virus support06:31
mkultra__im pretty sure i do have 3 partitions06:31
mkultra__yeah i do /boot /swap + /06:31
spantheryou better make a fourth then06:31
spanthermake / smaller (like 10 or 15gig?) then all other /home as separate06:32
mkultra__so i can "echo $HOME"06:32
mkultra__i have a TB drive06:32
spantherjust decide for yourself man...06:32
spantherit was an example...06:32
mkultra__id probably do small boot then like 20 gigs for the distro06:33
mkultra__then i can flood the distro with absurd package counts06:33
mkultra__make it a security issue with installing tons of garbage06:33
mkultra__my pc is a logical land fill, my house is extreme hoarder style06:33
spanthermy partition is like /boot (200mb) / (20gb) swap (3gb) /home (135gb)06:34
mkultra__yeah my boot partitions not small06:34
mkultra__not big i mean06:34
mkultra__300 megs06:34
mkultra__then an 830gb land fill06:35
spantherthat's an example how it works easily. then i just update from disc to a new edition, installing it to / and reuse /home (home without format)06:35
mkultra__and a windows 7 partition for magic the gathering / counter strike06:35
spantherif /home has it's own partition you don't lose data while using fresh setup from disc.06:35
mkultra__i setup my windows like that for a long time06:35
spantherso you can make clean installs without time waste06:35
mkultra__storage partitions that are untuched style06:35
mkultra__what about users?06:36
spantherall user account folders are inside /home/06:36
mkultra__seems like the $USER would want to repunish my home directory06:36
spantherincluding all config files for all your software and your private data06:36
mkultra__so ur saying the private data would be like "oh its already a user here"06:36
mkultra__and not touch it06:37
spantherno you can at new install chose (own partition setup) then you can set "format /" and reuse swap and mount /home without reformat06:37
spantherso it won't touch /home, just use it again, but deletes / and reinstalls on a fresh / partition your system itself06:38
spantherall user content stays untouched and ready to use in /home06:38
mkultra__http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_qZGouBqZeg8/SwrcKf-1ujI/AAAAAAAABb8/BCoJdKzOVxI/s1600/australia_td-15m_landfill.jpg06:39
mkultra__that reminds me of my pc06:39
spantheryou got all the information you need. now do it or drop it. not my problem :P06:40
spantheri go sleep now06:40
mkultra__lol06:41
mkultra__im familiar with the idea06:41
mkultra__so u say mount the extra partition as home no format06:41
spantheryes!06:41
spantherif format, all is lost06:41
mkultra__im gonna have to VM this06:41
mkultra__i know im gonna mess it up06:41
mkultra__i do it for doze all the time though06:42
spantherjust think before clicking. if you are unsure, better research, before doing something dumb06:42
spantherfor real, it is very easy.06:42
spanthergo manual partitioning. check bootable flag at /boot and chose format. chose / and format too. swap does not need any format. then check /home without format. so you get a fresh clean install and have all your settings and files back at /home. that's it06:45
spanthernow gn806:45
zusmkultra__,  thanks i will figure this out when im not so tired... thanks for the links i will bookmark them.07:35
zusnighters07:36
* incorrect all hi09:57
o_hi everyone. I'am using xubuntu11.10. I can't connect to samba server in gigolo. Is it a bug? How can I fix it?10:35
Sysiinstall gvfs-backends10:36
o_Sysi: thanks10:36
o_It works fine10:38
levartemitHi guys, I installed Xubuntu on Virtualbox and now I'm trying to install Firestarter or GUFW, but in the Ubuntu Software Center, the "install" buttons are greyed-out . . . any idea what's going on?10:41
levartemitlol, i unplugged the network :P10:41
levartemitsorry!10:41
csenger41hello everyone :)11:09
knomehello11:09
csenger41its good to see u again, knome :)11:11
knomemm-hmm11:13
csenger41could u help in colour correcting on Xubuntu? my monitor is very paly11:13
csenger41its a laptop, MSI GX710X, and i dont want to install ATI Catalyst, last time it killed my XORG and had to reinstall the system11:14
knomecsenger41, hmhh. are you sure it's not related to power management (not plugged in AC power?)11:15
csenger41no, im sure its plugged in, otherwise it can work for about 1 hour11:15
knomehave you looked at the power settings?11:16
knomeit might still have some non-optimal settings for some reason11:16
csenger41no, the backlight is on the max, its just the colours which look very paly11:19
knomecsenger41, everywhere (even black text on white) ?11:19
csenger41no, its good, only colours11:21
csenger41i need less gamma and more contrast11:21
knomecsenger41, try to change the theme11:22
knomecsenger41, it might be that what is looking pale11:22
csenger41knome, no it must not be the theme, i can see the difference from eg Windows 7 when opening a picture and it looks pale as hell on Xubuntu11:24
knomehmmh11:25
knomeno idea..11:25
csenger41I thought so... :( I was hoping that there is a way to edit some XORG file to perform this11:25
knomeprobably, never had to do that though11:28
csenger41since the first use of Ubuntu and Xubuntu, my biggest problem was the pale colours11:28
knomeweird really11:28
knomemaybe it just is the driver then11:29
csenger41IDK how, but installing ATI driver from jockey makes the whole system slower :S11:29
knomedoes it fix the problem however?11:29
csenger41yeah, my colours were perfect until XORG died and I couldnt see anything :D11:32
knome:P11:34
csenger41I'd need help in one more thing:11:35
csenger41I installed VLC, but its GUI colour doesn't follow the greybird theme11:36
csenger41i can show a pic of it if needed11:36
Sysiclose it and open again, any change?11:36
csenger41nope11:37
incorrectgreybird is a pretty awful theme for eclipse,11:38
csenger41incorrect: I like that theme, look simple and nice11:39
incorrectcsenger41, currently there is a fair amount of brokenness about it with eclipse, but oh well11:40
csenger41https://picasaweb.google.com/115258614198791545895/Others#566665113523237277011:40
csenger41theres a pic about the problem11:41
csenger41with 11.04 it was all good, then I reinstalled to the 11.10 and now its like on the pic... :S11:41
incorrectxfce will suffer as all the effort goes into the gtk3 stuff11:42
csenger41so any idea why is it happening?11:43
* incorrect shrugs11:43
csenger41I mean its strange that it was all great in 11.04 but its screwed in 11.10 LTS11:43
incorrectLTS?11:44
incorrectthis isn't an LTS11:44
csenger41it is LTS11:44
incorrectno it isn't11:44
incorrectyou are wrong11:44
csenger41hm11:45
Myrtti11.10 isn't LTS11:45
csenger41lol ur right sry11:45
incorrectdoes xubuntu do LTS?11:45
chickenboneI think it does11:45
Sysisame repositories as ubuntu, therefore yes11:45
Sysisame updates11:46
csenger41yes it does11:46
incorrectxfce might not get 3 years of loving, or 5 as it will be11:46
csenger41as there are so many active people here, please help me11:46
chickenboneincorrect: why do you say that?11:47
incorrectchickenbone, well i didn't know the xubuntu team had the resources to keep xfce 4.x supported for 3(not 5) years11:47
csenger41how can i set lower gamma and higher contrast level without installing ATI Catalyst on an ATI VGA11:47
incorrectyes the ubuntu parts will get looked after11:48
chickenboneincorrect: Hopefully they will get some financial support from Conical11:48
csenger41incorrect: it would be really big shame, as I hate the current Ubuntu release with crappy Unity and crappy Gnome 3 port11:49
incorrecti don't like unity either11:49
chickenbonecsenger41: Agree11:49
incorrectthe unity UI gets in the way11:50
incorrectfunctional, then style11:50
csenger41Gnome 3 would be great, but it needs way too strong hardware11:50
chickenbonecsenger41: what about gnome shell?11:50
knomehmm, for the more general gnome-xfce ubuntu-xubuntu dicsussion, please use #xubuntu-offtopic11:50
incorrectsorry11:50
knomechickenbone, csenger41, incorrect: ^11:50
chickenboneknome: this is help...of sorts11:51
csenger41sorry :(11:51
chickenboneknome: point taken11:51
knomethanks11:51
csenger41then lets talk about my problem :)11:51
knomesupport questions are very welcome though11:51
csenger41knome had no idea, maybe you could help me incorrect and chickenbone11:52
chickenbonecsenger41: fire away11:52
csenger41how can i set lower gamma and higher contrast level without installing ATI Catalyst on an ATI VGA11:53
csenger41*?11:53
chickenbonecsenger41: I believe Compiz will allow you to do this, however you have to install it first11:54
chickenbonecsenger41: Although this is probably not what you had in mind...11:55
csenger41chickenbone: no it isnt :) I was hoping that there is a way to perform there by editing the XORG file in a way12:00
csenger41brb one sec, gonna restart12:00
chickenbonecsenger41: try this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397312:02
csenger41back12:03
chickenbonecsenger41: see above12:04
csenger41chickenbone: cant see anything sorry :S12:06
knome15:02  chickenbone: csenger41: try this - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8397312:06
csenger41i cant find anything there about gamma and contrast :(12:08
csenger41well never mind, I'll install ATI again, hoping it won't mess around again12:09
chickenbonecsenger41: that may be all you can do. Sorry i couldn't help you. You may also want to post your question on Ubuntu Forums - perhaps someone there can help you12:10
csenger41chickenbone: its OK :)12:13
chickenbonecsenger41: Why did you want to reduce the gamma anyway?12:14
csenger41chickenbone: because my colours are all paly12:14
csenger41well now im leaving, gonna install ATI catalyst12:26
csenger41thx for the help :)12:26
csenger41have a nice day guys, bye12:26
egsomeHow can I change position of some panel ?12:52
Sysiplease don't crosspost12:53
egsomeSysi, Sorry, Thought no one is there.12:54
Atanaheimhi everyone13:10
AtanaheimI would like some help to configure my wifi network (I'm new to Linux)13:11
zuswhen opening a torrent it asks for transmission how can i change it to deluge?14:02
Sysiinstall deluge and remove transmission is easiest way14:03
zuswhere  are the appplications usually found when clicking  other?14:03
Sysi/usr/bin14:04
zusthanks ...14:04
Sysior /usr/share/applications14:04
rostayobIt seems that xubuntu doesn't integrate well with pulseaudio14:15
rostayobthe standard mixer thing doesn't at least14:15
rostayobam I missing something?14:15
knomerostayob, try installing pavucontrol14:19
rostayobknome: yep I have that, but is there a way to integrate xfce better with pulseaudio?14:23
knomenot afaik i know14:29
knomeermh, -"i know" :P14:31
Sysidefault mixer can cotrol pulseaudio volume but not more14:33
Sysi+n14:33
w30I came in here to get as far away from Unity and Gnome3 as I could but those brash Unity people won't leave me alone;14:34
w30They have gofed up my compiz install14:35
w30has any one got a /etc/compizconfig for xfce4?14:36
w30mine is bastardized with unity and messed up my window decorations14:37
Sysithat's more likely because of lack of decorator than unity14:38
Sysiset it to use gtk-window-decorator14:38
w30Sysi, where do you set that?14:39
knomew30, please watch the language14:40
knomew30, also no need to blame anyone14:41
w30Sysi, something like --gtk-window-decorator14:41
w30Sysi, it says failed to load theme Adwaita14:51
w30Sysi, so it doesen't load a window decoration because I don't have Adwaita and I don't want it; it's ugly14:54
Sysiyou can set it in compizconfig-settingsmanager, "window decorations" but I don't know where it picks theme14:56
w30I think I will go get a shot of zanax and calm down, hopefully.....14:56
knomew30, please recheck your attitude. we don't want to know what you do to calm down, nor we want to hear you blaming other people.15:03
skatepunkcathi, so how does this work?15:10
knomeskatepunkcat, what is "this" ?15:10
knomeerh15:11
Sysidid you unban em already?15:11
knomethat was Myrtti's ban15:12
skatepunkcatwell im having a problem with xubuntu should i just tell you whats wrong15:12
Sysioh yeah15:12
knomeskatepunkcat, yep15:12
knomeäsch15:12
skatepunkcatok, i just finished installing vlc with the software center and the window closed on me. so i restarted and now every time i try to open the software center or the update manager the window automatically close's . any help would be awesome15:15
beardygnomeskatepunkcat: if you open up the terminal and type software-center, what happens?15:18
skatepunkcatit spits out some warnings then the center open's for about 4 sec. then close's15:20
beardygnomedo you get any errors in the terminal when it closes?15:21
Sysiyou could put the output to paste.ubuntu.com15:21
knome!pastebin15:25
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.15:25
skatepunkcatok here is the paste output http://paste.ubuntu.com /717008/15:28
skatepunkcatand the last one is the one that it gave me after the window closed15:29
snarkWould there be any negative reprocussions for me taking away read priveledges from "other" and "group" on my home directory?  I may make an acount for my little brother to ssh into, and I don't want him to be able to read my home dir.15:39
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YeahRighthi there i need some help..i've been upgrading to 11.10 and during the upgrade i experienced a samba error16:03
YeahRightCould not install 'samba'16:03
YeahRightThe upgrade will continue but the 'samba' package may not be in a working state. Please consider submitting a bug report about it.16:03
YeahRightpackage samba is not ready for configuration  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')16:03
YeahRightafter the error the upgrade continued and it wanted to report this bug16:03
YeahRightduring the bug report procedure i pressed cancel..assuming it would cancel the reporting16:03
YeahRightbut it seems i cancelled the whole ugrade now and i get this:16:03
YeahRightCould not install the upgrades16:03
YeahRightThe upgrade has aborted. Your system could be in an unusable state. A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a).16:03
YeahRightthats not what i wanted...the upgrade went fine except for the samba thing16:03
YeahRighti just wanted to cancel the reporting16:03
YeahRightso what can i do now?16:03
knomefix the upgrading.16:07
ushillshi, looking for some help with 11.10, for some reason I dont have shutdown on the login screen anymore installed with lightDM16:08
beardygnomeushills: what does your login screen look like?16:09
beardygnomeis it black with a white pattern?16:10
ushillsYep, the black and white one with dots16:11
beardygnomethat happened to me - you've ended up with the wrong theme16:11
ushillsHow can I change it?16:12
beardygnometo fix it, you need to edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf16:12
beardygnomeyou need to change greeter-session=unity-greeter to greeter-session=lightdm-gtk-greeter16:13
ushillsThanks, done it16:13
ushillsSecondly, why has the user switcher disappeared as well from the user options.16:14
beardygnomei had another problem with lightdm once i'd done that, so see http://beardygnome.co.uk/2011/10/22/oneiric-ocelot-arrives/ for more info16:14
artHi all, I'm experimenting with xubuntu, so have been installing and uninstalling it. I notice most of the wait time during the install is for the installer to download programs. Is there some way I can save the iprograms froma previous download in order to minimize the install time of later installs?16:18
zenroxart i would just tell the installer not to get the updates during the install16:51
zenroxand the restricted ones either16:51
zenroxthen i would get them after i get xubuntu installed16:52
skatepunkcat um i was wondering if anyone has gotten anywhere with my window closing problem?17:01
artty zenrox, not sure how to tell the installer not to get the updates...17:02
voozeIs there a reason why the live / install cd is OVER 700mb? :/17:05
artI was chatting with babble...but he lost connection........would it be possible for me to clone a fresh install using clonezilla, burn it to a DVD, then just install the DVD image each time I want a fresh install???17:05
babbleclonezilla will do a byte for byte copy of your entire hd including empty/unused space17:05
babbleclonezilla is a frontend for dd17:06
zenroxvooze, you probly got the dvd image17:06
artyes, that's correct....but I have a small drive, the original install could be done onto a 30 GB drive, then cloned.17:08
voozezenrox: got it from here: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/oneiric/release/desktop/ -- torrent file17:08
voozezenrox: ah nevermind.. for some weird reason my ubuntu (not xubuntu) install took the bits and said 730mb.. strange :D17:11
artvooze and zenrox, would the dvd image make for a faster install because downloading during a CD based install was not needed??17:12
artvooze andzenrox...my ver 11.10 live D is 730 mb, but my cd's are 750 mb, so it just barely fits.17:14
GridCubethere is no dvd image for xubuntu17:15
artthanks grid.........is there a dvd image for any ubuntu?17:16
charlie-tcaUbuntu has dvd, so does Edubuntu, UbuntuStudio, and I think Kubuntu17:20
voozeThink there used to be for standard ubuntu, but not sure17:20
charlie-tcaBut to be clear, Xubuntu has never had a dvd, and still does not have a dvd17:21
artIs there any reason why a fresh install of xubuntu couoldn't be copied to a DVD, then the DVD could be copied back onto an empty hard drive when a fresh intall was needed???17:25
charlie-tcaOther than hardware specific stuff, no17:25
charlie-tcaIf the hardware doesn't match exactly, it may fail, though17:26
Sysiit shouldn't, only propietary drivers and such should fail17:26
Sysixubuntu initrd should contail all drivers17:26
Sysiart: well, try clonezilla17:27
artok, so a copy of a fresh install can only be reinstalled on the same computer....I can live with that and it would definately help speed up installs!!!! Now, I'm not even sure if clonezilla is needed...maybe just drag and drop the entire install onto a DVD will work just as well.17:28
yashyUpon reboot into xubuntu 11.10, I have two issues. 1) My ethernet doesn't auto-connect, I have to manually run 'sudo dhclient' to get an IP. In Settings -> Network Connections, for eth0 it has "connect automatically" checked, but does not do this.17:29
yashy2) My sound doesn't work upon reboot. After last reboot I went onto alsamixer, and chose SB manually, as the default was blank. That doesn't seem to be working this time, unless I'm doing something incorrectly, but I'd like sound to work upon reboot17:30
GridCubeyashy, clean install?17:31
artI thank you all for the input-support for the various tu's is outstanding. I hope to run linux forever and to give Bill the boot completely.17:32
yashyGridCube: upgrade.17:34
GridCubeoh, you should delete most of the .something folders on your /home/user then17:34
GridCubeonly leave those you can not live whitout17:34
GridCubeand reboot17:35
charlie-tcaat least the ones in ~/.cache and ~/.config17:35
yashywill try what charlie-tca recommends... brb17:35
VegarI have a .desktop file that should be run in a terminal (run it terminal is checked in the file properties), but whenever I click it from thunar, it just opens a new terminal17:46
Vegarrunning exo-open the.desktop executes the file properly17:46
Vegaris this a bug or a misconfiguration on my part?17:46
Vegarit seems to only happen when gnome-terminal is the default terminal app17:47
charlie-tcaVegar: then it is probably a conflict between terminals. Xubuntu sets exo-open to point to xfce4-terminal, so if gnome-terminal is the default, you might have to reset it someplace.17:53
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zacariasif you install a gtk theme, will it ruin your xubuntu performancde, making it like (Gnome)Ubuntu?18:28
charlie-tcano, but if it isn't GTK2 and GTK3 compatible, it will make some things look bad18:30
Sysiif you install buggy enough theme it may cause weird stuff18:32
zushello, has anyone experienced  when using laptop button to mute, but it will not unmute, i have to mouse to the speaker icon and click unmute?18:34
SysiI've heard reports about that and maybe had it myself18:35
zusits not such a big deal but im sure its not intended to work this way, but "I" do use the mute alot  at work  ...:)18:36
Sysido you have vol up button, what using it does?18:37
zusraise the volume18:38
zusthe notify boxes dont really seem to "match" though.18:38
SysiI mean when it's muted, raises from zero or where it used to be?18:38
zusoh, no once i mute it its muted till i unmute it18:39
zusi know in linux mint  if i muted i had to unmute raising volume alone didnt unmute it, but  it was all done with my  buttons so its cool18:40
zusubuntu one wont let me  switch my account, which is a bit annoying, i might even uninstall  and not use it. - thats too bad to i guess.18:44
charlie-tcaXubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in about 5 hours (22:00 UTC). Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings18:54
charlie-tcaXubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in about 3 hours (22:00 UTC). Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings18:57
voozeI'm trying to set Chromium to default browser in xubuntu settings, but i cant just write chromium.. its like chroimum %somthing or simular.. anyone know?19:02
well_laid_lawntry  chromium %F19:04
voozewell_laid_lawn: worked perfectly.. thank you!19:05
well_laid_lawncheers19:05
zushow come  im not able to log into my 2nd ubuntu one account from ubuntu one client ?19:13
charlie-tcazus: since most of us can not get ubuntuone to work at all with xubuntu, you might want to try #ubuntuone19:22
zusthank you charlie-tca19:23
yashyCan someone help me debug a sound issue? It only started since upgrading to 11.10. I have two audio devices (SB and HDMI) and pavucontrol only sees the HDMI one? http://pastebin.com/EHY9VwVr19:36
klymeroobonjour19:57
attarbleh, what's with the random white text in greybird.. firefox menu bar and thunderbird buttons for example :|19:59
charlie-tcaattar: changes in the application theme by Mozilla, which we are trying to get fixed20:01
attarahh, i see. thanks :)20:02
xubuntu105hello :)20:19
xubuntu105can anyone tell me how good xubuntu is at finding the drivers for, say, the built-in webcam my laptop has? when I don't have the windows partition with the original drivers to back it up?20:19
zuslater guys! thanks20:29
charlie-tcaXubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel in 45 minutes (22:00 UTC). Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings21:14
serfussomething funny... on the english layout everything is fine, but when switching to hebrew layout looks like all the number keys are not working except for '9'21:17
serfusnot with shift as well21:17
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GridCuberhythmbox doesnt close when i close it :(21:54
GridCubeit keeps playing on the background21:54
knomeGridCube, maybe it goes to notification area ;)21:54
knomeGridCube, or the indicator area21:54
GridCubeit does not21:54
GridCubebecause it doesnt have a notification area icon21:54
knomea-ha21:54
GridCubeand you can not make one21:54
knomemaybe it's invisible then? :P21:55
GridCubeso its probably going to the notification area of gnome21:55
knomeprolly21:55
charlie-tcaXubuntu community meeting in #xubuntu-devel now. Everyone is invited to attend. Agenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings22:02
YeahRightwhen i get an error like:  Could not install the upgrades The upgrade has aborted. Your system could be in an unusable state. A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a).22:52
YeahRightwill everything return exactly to the situation before i upgraded?22:52
YeahRightit shouldnt even do a recovery cause all i did was canceling a bug report creation..22:53
YeahRighti need to know if i just should let the recovery run and then upgrade again or if i should stop the recovery some way since the upgrade kinda finished with only samba install failing which triggered the bug report creation22:56
philipballewYeahRight, upgraging to .10?22:56
YeahRightyes23:00
YeahRightthanks for replying philipballew23:00
philipballewanytime :)23:00
philipballewwell. lets se23:00
philipballewe23:00
philipballewI think it should and if not you can try to upgrade again and see if the same thing happens23:01
GridCubeYeahRight, you should, if you can, do a clean install23:01
philipballewGridCube, got to it before i did. good job23:01
YeahRighti reply prefer not to do that23:01
GridCubeok23:01
philipballewYeahRight, lets upgrade your machine23:02
GridCubethen you should do an upgrade deleting most of the dot starting folders of your ~/23:02
YeahRighti understand that would solve issues but then again i wouldnt have upgraded :P23:02
philipballewlets do it from the terminal so we can see all thats happening23:02
YeahRightthis sound like great support..thanks..sure let's do that23:03
philipballewworst that happens is you get the same error anyway23:03
philipballewalright. here is what you should enter23:03
philipballewwait23:04
philipballewfirst off what does lsb_release -a show you23:05
philipballewit say what version your running23:05
YeahRighti'm trying to paste something on pastebin but it doesnt seem to respond23:06
philipballewYeahRight,23:06
philipballewwell is its not to long go ahead and paste it here23:06
YeahRightok23:06
YeahRighthi there i need some help..i've been upgrading to 11.10 and during the upgrade i experienced a samba error23:07
YeahRightCould not install 'samba' The upgrade will continue but the 'samba' package may not be in a working state. Please consider submitting a bug report about it.23:07
YeahRightpackage samba is not ready for configuration  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')23:07
YeahRightafter the error the upgrade continued and it wanted to report this bug23:07
YeahRightduring the bug report procedure i pressed cancel..assuming it would cancel the reporting23:07
YeahRightbut it seems i cancelled the whole ugrade now and i get this:23:07
YeahRightCould not install the upgrades23:07
YeahRightThe upgrade has aborted. Your system could be in an unusable state. A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a).23:07
YeahRightthats not what i wanted...the upgrade went fine except for the samba thing and i just wanted to cancel the reporting23:07
philipballewwhat do you use samba for?23:07
GridCube(to share folders probably?)23:07
philipballewi would only assume23:08
YeahRighti should tell you i run this xubuntu in a vitual machine23:08
YeahRightand i think i didnt even really use it yet to be honest but i would like it to work23:08
YeahRight(samba that is)23:08
philipballewwell i would upgrade then fix samba if its having issues23:09
YeahRightLSB Version:core-2.0-ia32:core-2.0-noarch:core-3.0-ia32:core-3.0-noarch:core-3.1-ia32:core-3.1-noarch:core-3.2-ia32:core-3.2-noarch:core-4.0-ia32:core-4.0-noarch23:09
philipballewsudo apt-get install update-manager-core23:10
YeahRightlike i just pasted..it practivally did finish upgrading..23:10
philipballewthen23:10
YeahRightbut then i pressed cancel23:10
philipballewsudo do-release-upgrade -d23:10
YeahRightto stop the bugreport i thought23:10
YeahRightand now i still have a window telling me it will run a recovery23:10
YeahRighti still have to click that window away23:10
YeahRightand then recovery will start as it looks now23:10
philipballewmaybe you should recover23:11
YeahRightshould i just press close?23:11
YeahRightand let recover run?23:11
philipballewdo what it says then upgrade?23:11
philipballewlet recover run23:11
YeahRightwell i wonder what recover will do exactly23:11
YeahRightwill it really return my system to before the upgrade?23:11
YeahRightor will it just create some default situation23:12
philipballewi am not sure, but if you want to upgrade i would do it23:12
YeahRightits strange that pressing CANCEL one time during a particular part of the upgrade proces appearantly will undo the whole upgrade proces23:13
YeahRighti only wanted to skip the bug reporting23:13
YeahRightnot stop the upgrade23:13
YeahRightupgrade said it could continu even with the samba error occuring23:13
YeahRightso i figured to fix that lateron23:13
philipballewyeah, if it is upgrading dont cancel it I guess.23:14
YeahRightyeah ..i wish i had known that..23:14
philipballewit needs to continue all the way23:14
philipballewits all good23:14
YeahRighti also allowed stuff to be deleted during upgrading..23:14
YeahRightso if recovery would need that..23:15
YeahRightbest would be if i could undo the cancel somehow23:15
YeahRighti think the way it works is not bery user friendly tbh23:15
GridCuberecovery will try to reinstall stuff23:15
GridCubenot to go back23:15
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GridCubeif you are using a vbox you can take an image of how is it now23:16
GridCubeand go whi the upgrade if things fail you should be able to comeback to the snapshot23:16
YeahRightthats good thinking23:16
YeahRightso GridCube : you're saying...basically i will jsut run the upgrade again when it wants to recover?23:18
GridCubecharlie-tca, can you help me here please?23:19
GridCubecharlie-tca, can answer you better23:19
YeahRightok cool23:20
YeahRightcharlie-tca we're waiting for you :P23:20
GridCubeexplain in a single sentence for him :P23:21
charlie-tcaGridCube: I have review the logs here first23:22
GridCube:)23:22
YeahRightsure thing23:24
YeahRightit's already great you are around :P23:24
chickenboneDoes anybody know how I can install additional themes?23:27
knomechickenbone, copy theme files to /usr/share/themes/ or ~/.themes23:27
chickenboneExcuse my ignorance but were can I download the files from?23:28
knome!themes23:28
ubottuTo change your theme in Xubuntu, go to Settings Manager » Appearance (GTK+ theme) or Settings Manager » Window Manager (xfwm4 theme) to change the theme - find more themes at http://xfce-look.org/ or http://gnome-look.org/ (for GTK+ themes)23:28
chickenboneYes23:29
chickenboneknome: Are there any you suggest?23:29
chickenboneknome: Or recommend?23:29
chickenboneThey all look good but same may be better than others - if you catch my drift.23:30
knomechickenbone, any on http://shimmerproject.org/23:30
chickenbonenice23:30
chickenboneI'll have a look now23:30
knomechickenbone, greybird supports gtk3 the most of xfce themes23:30
knomechickenbone, those themes should be in murrine-themes23:30
knome(the package)23:31
YeahRightGridCube / charlie-tca : i might be afk for a bit but i will read all your comments about what to do for sure later so please just paste them in channel whenever you are ready..thanks23:32
charlie-tcasure23:33
charlie-tcaI don't know what I can do yet23:33
YeahRight:-)23:33
charlie-tcaYeahRight: you stopped the upgrade?23:33
YeahRightwell not willingly..23:33
YeahRightif you read back..i thought i canceled the bugreporting only23:33
YeahRighti wanted to skip that part..23:34
charlie-tcadid the upgrade stop?23:34
YeahRightand now i have a popup window telling me about a recovery that will follow after i press close23:34
YeahRightCould not install the upgrades23:34
YeahRightThe upgrade has aborted. Your system could be in an unusable state. A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a).23:34
chickenboneknome: Just to verify, these themes are installed by default on Xubuntu.23:35
YeahRightthat came after pressing cancel during the bug reporting23:35
knomechickenbone, mmh, i thought so. ;)23:35
YeahRightthere is no need for any recovery since the upgrade went fine except for samba23:35
charlie-tcalet the recovery run23:35
knomechickenbone, i was just making sure (and i'm trying to chair a meeting at the same time, so i'm not the most focused)23:35
charlie-tcaIt will try to fix samba23:36
YeahRightok i pressed close23:36
charlie-tcaIt won't run "recovery" as in windows. It will attemp;t to fix the packages that broke23:36
YeahRightok23:36
YeahRighti get this now: Upgrade complete23:36
YeahRightThe upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process.23:36
chickenboneknome: That's fine. I'll play around with them as see if they suit me23:36
knomechickenbone, good :)23:36
YeahRighthmm..i think it didnt even do what i claimed it would do..which is run a recovery (dpkg --configure -a)23:37
charlie-tcaThat's possible.23:37
charlie-tcaYeahRight: is everything finished now?23:37
charlie-tcado not reboot yet23:38
YeahRighti see no visible upgrade thing running anymore23:38
YeahRightmaybe i should check in ps ?23:38
charlie-tcathen open a terminal and type        apt-cache policy gvfs-backends23:39
YeahRightsounds sexy...what will that do? :P23:40
charlie-tcaIt will check if the items required for samba are there23:40
YeahRightcool23:40
charlie-tcahit enter after typing that23:40
YeahRightgvfs-backends:23:40
YeahRight  Installed: 1.10.0-0ubuntu123:40
YeahRight  Candidate: 1.10.0-0ubuntu123:40
YeahRight  Version table:23:40
YeahRight *** 1.10.0-0ubuntu1 023:40
YeahRight        500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ oneiric/main i386 Packages23:40
YeahRight        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status23:40
charlie-tcaIt's there.23:40
YeahRighthow can i fix it?23:41
charlie-tcafix what?23:41
charlie-tcaThe upgrade completed23:41
charlie-tcaYou can run     sudo apt-get update23:42
charlie-tcathen run      sudo apt-get dist-upgrade23:42
YeahRightah..i thought that checked for samba..23:42
charlie-tcaand see if it says anything this time23:42
YeahRightthe samba errors i got still need fixing23:42
charlie-tcaHow do you know it didn't get fixed23:42
YeahRightwell didnt the error messages during the upgrade suggest that?23:43
YeahRightCould not install 'samba'23:43
YeahRightThe upgrade will continue but the 'samba' package may not be in a working state. Please consider submitting a bug report about it.23:43
YeahRightpackage samba is not ready for configuration  cannot configure (current status `half-installed')23:43
charlie-tcayes, and -a should have fixed it23:44
YeahRight-a where?23:44
charlie-tcadid you run     dpkg --configure -a     in the terminal?23:45
YeahRightno23:45
YeahRighti thought it said it would do that itself..23:45
YeahRightshould i have done that?23:45
charlie-tcarun it, but it will be         sudo dpkg --configure -a23:45
charlie-tcaYou need to run it, to try and fix the errors23:46
YeahRighti already did sudo apt-get dist-upgrade like ou said..is the order wrong now? (so no dpkg --configure -a yet)23:46
YeahRight sudo apt-get dist-upgrade finished without errors i think23:46
YeahRightcan i still run sudo dpkg --configure -a now?23:47
charlie-tcaplease do23:47
charlie-tcaI think the issues got fixed already, but yes, run it23:47
YeahRightit returned to the prompt immediatley23:47
YeahRightas if it ddint do anything23:48
YeahRightthats correct?23:48
YeahRightno output at all23:48
charlie-tcaThen it fixed itself. You are in good shape23:48
YeahRightcool23:49
YeahRightthank you charlie-tca23:49
charlie-tcaYou still will need to restart, and it needs to be a full restart, not logout,login23:49
YeahRighti think it indeed looks good now :P23:49
YeahRightyup sure23:49
charlie-tcaIf anyting fails during the restart, use Ctrl+alt+del to force it again. Then do a full shutdown, even with the power switch if it gets stuck.23:49
YeahRightok restarting now23:50
charlie-tcaThe reboot will include a full fsck on the hard drives, so expect it to take a while with no responses23:50
YeahRightok23:50
YeahRightreboot went fine..thanks again :P23:57
charlie-tcaYou are welcome23:57

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