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Torchgoogle finds https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile00:04
nafg_Hi, after upgrading to Oneiric I no longer have Shutdown and Restart options. Any idea?00:10
gomiboyRickKnight: tried using padsp to launch the games?00:17
Deathspawnanyone know how to turn off stereo mix? it's somehow on and really annoying for skype... :/00:21
MeanderingCodeHello hello00:23
MeanderingCodeCan anyone clarify for me whether the Muon Software Center will show apps submitted by developers as the Ubuntu "Software Center" does?00:24
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nafg_Hi, after upgrading to Oneiric I no longer have Shutdown and Restart options. Any idea?00:39
nafg_Hi, after upgrading to Oneiric I no longer have Shutdown and Restart options. Any idea?00:46
RickKnightgomiboy: Yes, padsp works on a couple but with some delay. It doesn't work at all RTCW.00:53
DaskreechLinkmaster: Yo00:53
LinkmasterDaskreech: I lost my wired connection, so we're back to me being hosed...any ideas though, especially since b43-fwcutter didn't work?00:54
DaskreechDid you try modprobe b43 ?00:54
AvonGenesis_Hey, I just installed kubuntu on my Compaq Presario C551NR, I'm having trouble getting the wireless to work.00:56
Daskreech!wifi00:56
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:56
AvonGenesis_Thanks, I'll read that then.00:57
nafg_Hi, after upgrading to Oneiric I no longer have Shutdown and Restart options. Any idea?00:59
LinkmasterDaskreech: yep, when I tried those, the ability for wireless completely disappeared00:59
DaskreechLinkmaster: hmm01:04
DaskreechLinkmaster: Do you know what revision your card is?01:05
LinkmasterI can find out...would it be written on the card itself?01:05
DaskreechIiii think so?01:07
DaskreechShould say rev somenumber01:07
LinkmasterDaskreech: this might be helpful: http://pastebin.com/AinKSBDQ01:11
AvonGenesis_Running command "lshw -C network" says my wifi card is UNCLAIMED. I checked for proprietary drivers and Broadcom STA wireless driver is installed. I cannot access the wireless tab in the network manager though.01:12
Matissehi01:12
MatisseI started installed some i386-packages on my 64bit system, but there are a lot dependencies, so i think i need to take a different way01:13
MatisseI'm trying to install the graphic driver. do you think a chroot env is needed or should I just install every needed package using getlibs (ppa package from somebody)?01:15
Matissesomebody = https://launchpad.net/~jcollins/+archive/jaminppa/+packages01:15
DaskreechLinkmaster: What command was that?01:21
Daskreechnever mind :)01:23
LinkmasterDaskreech: the title01:23
DaskreechJust saw it01:23
Linkmasterah, alright. anything useful in there?01:23
phiscribeLinkmaster, is the ive heard that sometimes the firware for a net card might get "misplace" during and upgade, dont know much more than that, usualy they are in /lib/firmware or some such place    locate firmware01:24
LinkmasterThis was a fresh install, so thats one reason why we are confused of the borkyness01:24
DaskreechLinkmaster: Yeah. Is it 32 or 54 bit?01:25
Daskreech6401:25
Linkmaster32bit01:26
phiscribefresh might be worse if they have decided they dont have room for an older driver or firmware file and just drop it01:26
Linkmaster^that is possible...the s10e is around 2-3 years old01:26
phiscribeand many of the broadcom are conidered proprietary they wouldnt be included, maybe you need to install the cutter packages01:27
Linkmaster^Tried that, its whats making my card completely disappear01:28
DaskreechAs long as they are maintained they will be kept around01:28
phiscribeget the driver straight from boradcom01:29
Linkmasterwell, Daskreech, what do you propose we try next?01:29
phiscribehave you tried the "Additional Driver" and see if it lists Broadcom STA01:30
Linkmasterthat was amongst the first tried, it ended with nothing happening01:31
OerHeksyou have the fw-cutter, but do you also have the installer ?01:31
LinkmasterThe Broadcom STA is what I used to always use01:31
LinkmasterOerHeks: yes01:31
juniorcan some1 help me01:31
Daskreechwhich was the closest we got to working except the rf-kill switch01:31
DaskreechLinkmaster: did it work in Windows?01:31
LinkmasterDaskreech: nope01:32
Daskreech!ask01:32
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience01:32
DaskreechLinkmaster: oh?01:32
LinkmasterI have the 'firmware-b43-lpphy-installer'01:32
juniorhow do i download like jave/ flash player and stuff?01:32
phiscribefirmware-b43-installer  ?01:32
juniorwere i find it?01:32
phiscribeand the b430fwcutter01:32
LinkmasterI tried that one, it complained to me01:32
Daskreech!info kubuntu-restricted-extras | junior01:33
ubottujunior: kubuntu-restricted-extras (source: ubuntu-restricted-extras): Commonly used restricted packages for Kubuntu. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 56 (oneiric), package size 2 kB, installed size 36 kB01:33
phiscribeand the b43-wcutter01:33
phiscribeeeeh cant typ e b43-fwcutter01:33
junioryeh this my first time using kubuntu need bit more help lol01:34
LinkmasterI have b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-lpphy-installer to download/install while I had a wired connection. I was going to put installer w/o lpphy, but it said "your card is a low power" or something like that, and insisted I install that version01:34
phiscribeseee if it is blacklisted      cat  /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf | grep b4301:34
Daskreechjunior: Open your package manager :)01:34
LinkmasterDaskreech: and me tried that =P01:35
juniorok01:35
Daskreechjunior: search for kubuntu-restricted-extras01:35
DaskreechClick install and install it01:35
DaskreechThere you go. Java, Flash, Video and Music Codecs01:36
phiscribebcmwl   - broadcome kernel sources           bradcom-sta-common   broadcom-sta-source  bcmwl-modalases01:36
DaskreechLinkmaster: it not working in Windows is worrying to me01:36
LinkmasterDaskreech: same. Both of them stopped working at the same time, but I didn't really think about it until just now01:36
Daskreech:-/01:37
juniorhow do is et so i aint gotta enter my password everytime i install something01:37
* Daskreech thinks the card is borked. It's reporting that a hardswitch that doesn't exist is turned on and can't pick up any signals01:37
Linkmasterjunior thats a good option, leave it be. its for security purposes, to not let a happenstance person mess with your system01:37
Daskreechjunior: finish one thing at at time :)01:38
juniorok01:38
* Linkmaster has started to believe that as well..01:38
DaskreechWe can fix that afterwards01:38
Linkmasterhmm...let me jack a card from another kid, see if it starts working01:38
* Daskreech laughs01:39
DaskreechSorry I just saw you robbing some guy of his laptop's wifi card dressed in a penguin suit01:39
phiscribewhaq whaq whaq  (while tookin cigar and twriling unbrella)01:40
juniorcan kubuntu run minecraft?01:40
DaskreechGive me your laptop...s wifi card. You can keep the rest of the laptop... NOW! Move it Buddy!01:40
Daskreechjunior: Yes01:40
DaskreechI was actually surprised when I heard it ran on Windows01:40
juniorwhat minecraft01:40
DaskreechYes :)01:40
juniorlol i had windows 7 but it was so laggy running minecraft and stuff01:41
DaskreechYou can probably tune it.01:41
LinkmasterDaskreech: ironically, that is exactly what I did =P01:41
juniorso how do i run it then?01:41
DaskreechLinkmaster: You carry a penguin suit for just such an occasion :)01:42
Daskreechjunior: instructions are on the website01:42
Daskreech!info minecraft01:42
ubottuPackage minecraft does not exist in oneiric01:42
DaskreechDidn't think so01:42
LinkmasterNo, I'm talking about the "give me your laptop...s wireless.." part01:42
junioru guys on here 24/701:43
jmichaelxwe all live here. it was the sad result of a scientific experiment that went horribly and hopelessly wrong...01:44
juniorwhat u on about live her01:44
juniorhere*01:44
* Linkmaster is trapped01:45
juniorso sitting there helping people is your day job?01:46
* Unit193 couldn't figure out what people were talking about when they said "/part"01:46
jmichaelxwe are just waiting for someone from the outside to come along, and be the bridge for to once again resurface in the visible world01:46
jmichaelxfor us*01:46
Daskreechjunior: Occupation. Not really a job :)01:47
* jmichaelx thinks to himself, 'but it really is kind of peaceful here...'01:47
DaskreechUnit193: You got that /part now?01:47
LinkmasterDaskreech: well...I tried a 'good' card, and the same problem..I'm just going to try the other kids motherboard as well01:47
juniorok so i downloaded minecraft now how do i run it :/01:47
nafg_Hi, after upgrading to Oneiric I no longer have Shutdown and Restart options. Any idea?01:48
phiscribenafg_, sounds like you have a mix or kde and gnome or unity components and there is a conlfict, like usng lighdm instead of kwin or along those lines01:50
phiscribenafg_,  are you logging in with KDM or GMD  it must be KDM in kubuntu to see those menus01:52
phiscribeif you are certain  (100 percent) that you want kdm    maybe sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm01:53
nafg_Ah, that could be it. But I'm quite sure it wasn't like that in Natty.01:53
nafg_Did something change and why?01:53
phiscribelog out and in and pick kdm for sessoin and see if that is it01:53
nafg_I'll find out the next time I log out :)01:54
* Linkmaster has come to a depressing realization01:55
phiscribek  pertty sure it is along those lines01:55
nafg_Huh -- it was set to lightdm for some reason. Does unity use it?01:55
phiscribelight dm is the windows manager for unity kubuntu still uses kwin i believe01:55
phiscribebevofe i think comp8iz might have been for ubuntu01:56
DaskreechLinkmaster: Ben Affleck can't act?01:56
nafg_Wait, are we discussing window manager or desktop manager (gdm vs. kdm)?01:56
phiscribethe missing loou t screen is usualy the logon manager not being kdm01:57
phiscribebut the new unubut now uses lightdm as windows manager01:57
nafg_Could lightdm also be a logon manager?01:57
phiscribebut if your usihng kubuntu that is incorrect01:57
LinkmasterDaskreech:  I think my motherboard is broken, because the good card didn't work either. I then popped my harddrive into the other computer, and it worked perfectly. first time connection, no problem01:57
nafg_I switched it back, but under Natty it was gdm and it worked.01:58
phiscribei guess technicly it is the display manager01:58
AndroidLoverInSFi have a shell program. how to add it to kde panel? i tried playing with widgets, but cant find how to add a shell program as in icon to the panel01:58
phiscribea move to webkit01:58
phiscribe11.10 ubuntu (not kubuntu) now uses lighdm did not in natty01:59
nafg_Android: Right click desktop, New link to application01:59
nafg_So KDE is ok with gdm but not lightdm?01:59
nafg_Anyway, why on earth should it care?01:59
phiscribelightdm may repalce gdm, im using kubuntu not for sure about  vanalia ubunt u02:00
phiscribe It is proposed to be the display manager in Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneric) replacing GDM which has been the display manager since the beginning. See the blueprint for more details.02:02
AndroidLoverInSFnafg: i cant see my desktop anywhere, not in panel, how to quickjump to it?02:04
LinkmasterDaskreech: yep...my motherboard must be borked, because even my broken card works in the other computer02:04
nafg_Android: So just open Dolphin02:05
AndroidLoverInSFoh, i added a show desktop widget, so i can click that now02:05
phiscribe..... my broken card works   is that a saying like military intelliegence02:05
phiscribei am think i am now in favor of the search and launch view, it seems to work fo rme02:07
AndroidLoverInSFim on 4.7, when right click on the desktop, only have addWidget, addPanel, Activities, RunCommand options,02:08
phiscribei can use a remote with it easily02:08
phiscribei dont see how the newspalyer layout could be uses well02:09
phiscribeused well that is02:09
phiscribeAndroidLoverInSF,  that sounds about like the deafults with lock and a couple others02:10
AndroidLoverInSFi just want to add an icon to the bottom panel for a shell program i installed, but cant figure out how02:11
phiscribeAndroidLoverInSF, oh i see now, find the application in the launcher then right click on it02:11
phiscribeif you have the defualt panel it will have a lancher menu, if not add a launcher or add the default panel back02:12
AndroidLoverInSFoh but the app isnt in the laucher cuz its a shell program in a dir.  i know how to add "installed" apps to the panel but not custom shell programs02:12
phiscribetype the name in the launcher it will find even shell apps02:13
phiscribelike i can type in cat   and i get an opton to run cat02:13
AndroidLoverInSFoh i see, the problem is the app has no extension ie, "eclipse"02:13
AndroidLoverInSF/opt/eclipse/eclipse -clean02:14
phiscriberight lick the luancher and edit applications02:14
AndroidLoverInSFahh i see, thanks, i should be able to figure it out from here02:14
jmichaelxnew rekonq coming down from kubuntu ppa.... maybe this one will work02:14
AndroidLoverInSFthanks!02:15
phiscribeits all new the 1st time hehe02:15
AndroidLoverInSFhehe, yep02:16
AndroidLoverInSFso add it to the launcher, then add the new launcher item to the panel. got it!02:17
jmichaelxrekonq 0.8 appears o be working :-)02:19
jmichaelxto*02:19
DaskreechLinkmaster: Woohoo! Problem solved!!02:19
LinkmasterTrue, it just led me to a larger one xP02:20
Daskreech##hardware02:21
phiscribeAndroidLoverInSF, more ways to skin the cat probably, but that one is the direct one02:21
LinkmasterI don't even want to [insert string of horrid things here] anymore02:21
DaskreechThat's good02:21
jmichaelxLinkmaster's wireless is working???02:22
Daskreech I've never wanted to [insert something horrid in his here]02:22
Daskreechjmichaelx: looks so02:22
jmichaelxYAY!!!!!02:22
Daskreechjmichaelx: Rest of the computer is broken though02:22
jmichaelxwho cares about that...02:22
DaskreechMotherboard is messed up02:22
jmichaelxwireless is working!!02:22
jmichaelxoh02:22
jmichaelxok, not so good02:22
phiscribejmichaelx, what was not working with old rekong?  i cant get it to do flash well02:22
jmichaelxphiscribe: for me, the rekonq was crashing like a mofo every time i tried to use it... especially uping trying to open new tabs02:23
phiscribeah, well glad the new version is working02:24
jmichaelxs/uping/upon/02:24
phiscribeis it gonna be rekonq now or konq  which is gonna be the default02:24
phiscriberekonq doesnt seem to fish or man or ftp even02:25
jmichaelxin kubuntu, at least, it is rekonq02:25
jmichaelxhmm02:25
jmichaelxphiscribe: i guess it doesn't... i just tried to fish with it, and it opened a dolphin window02:26
jmichaelxi dunno whether or not they intend to add those things or not.... if they turn rekonq into a file browser, etc, what will we need dolphin for?02:27
jmichaelxmaybe they can merge them... and it'll really be like konqueror 202:28
phiscribesftp smb all that02:28
jmichaelxor not or not02:28
phiscribeweb kit also, well i dont like its fonts in linux02:29
phiscribeit is greased lighnting though02:29
phiscribebut webkit came fro khtml,   eat your parents02:30
LinuxephusGreetings one & all. I was wondering if anyone here might be able to direct me in the use how to send SMS from my Yahoo Account using Kopete? I have everything set up as it should be etceteral. Excepting the fact I've been unable to send SMS using kopete.02:52
LinuxephusInteresting thing about the matter is that Pidgin does it just fine automatically. Yet Kopete itself seems to have no option to do so in the Yahoo Account.02:55
Linuxephus[Taps on his screen & scratches his beard befuddled amusement]02:55
LinuxephusEh...it seems I'll have to brush up on my grammar abit. It's been quite sometime since I've been around these parts...so to speak.02:57
xdunlapxhi Linuxephus03:00
xdunlapxyour grammar seems fine to me03:00
LinuxephusGreetings Dunlap and well met by the way.03:00
xdunlapx:) I tried using Kopete and wasn't impressed. so i went back to Pidgin which I've used since it was Gaim03:01
phiscribekopete doesnt seem as feature rich, still feeding off its egg sack i think03:02
phiscribeis there a magic bullet for ugly fonts, especialy browseres, (webkit seems worse)03:02
LinuxephusWell, I too used to use Pidgin until I switched over to Kubuntu which comes with Kopete by default. However, unless I'm mistaken otherwise, it appears Kopete, unlike Pidgin, doesn't support the SMS feature on ones Yahoo account as Pidgin does.03:03
Linkmasterphiscribe: the 'ubuntu' font seems very nice, and dejavu * works nicely03:03
phiscribeits not the fonts, its how they are rendered03:03
phiscribelike antialias is ignored03:04
LinkmasterLinuxephus: I know that the new KDE-telepathy can send SMS texts, as long as they text you first. I believe I recall the devels saying they'd eventually work in a 'text' button of sorts03:04
xdunlapxhaha03:04
LinkmasterOh, that is..oh, somewhere in the system settings, I recall something somewhere somehow(which really doesn't help) about how to fix that03:04
phiscribemy applications are ok, its mosly just the browsers, and mostly ones using webkit to render03:04
* Linkmaster is tired and braindead, so he dares not venture a solution03:05
LinuxephusAh, I'm thinking it indeed happens to be in the settings somewhere around something Linkmaster-->>LOLing. Reckon I'll have to dig around some as there are SMS options. Just not the straight forward variety.03:07
LinuxephusOr back to Pidgin to keep it simple. Thanks for the "heads-up" nonetheless Linkmaster.03:07
LinuxephusInteresting, the set-up here is quite different from the commenting set-up that one might find in a forum versus irc. [Duly noted for future use]03:10
Linuxephusxdunlapx: And how does one here address another directly to get the beeping notification?03:12
phiscribeLinkmaster, if the users name is in the message it hits the notification system03:13
phiscribeLinuxephus, i meant03:13
xdunlapxLinuxephus: I think you type /msg nickname message but i'm not sure i'm new to kde apps such as quassel03:13
LinkmasterThanks =P03:14
phiscribemessages with phiscribe in them will notify me, messages with Linuxephus notify you03:14
phiscribeah Linkmaster you like being notified hehe03:14
LinuxephusYep, I just figured that out phiscribe...xdunlapx03:14
Linkmasterat least add a "sorry, false ping" in there when the person goes away and you accidentally ping them03:14
phiscribeLinuxephus, try starting a new mesassage and type phi   then hit tab   phi+tab03:15
phiscribeit tries to auto fill the name like a bash shell and a directory03:15
phiscribeas long as there isnt a philosophy ur ok03:16
MeanderingCodeCan anyone clarify for me whether the Muon Software Center will show apps submitted by developers as the Ubuntu "Software Center" does?03:17
LinuxephusAh, I always prefer to be notified if possible. Though a quick reading eye will do the same in either case @Phis. xdunlapx: I'm connected here thru Chromium.03:18
LinuxephusMeanderingCode: I believe it will do that very thing from default if I'm not mistaken.03:19
* phiscribe is still on 11.04, not read to fight the lions tigers and bears03:20
MeanderingCodeLinuxephus: Thanks.  The only app i know of to "test" it with isn't in there, yet (for Oneiric...it's in for older ones)03:20
phiscribenot ready that is03:20
LinuxephusI was going to try Quassel @Dunlap, but opted for the quicker non-registration route. I happen to be on Kubuntu 11.04 myself as well Phis. No problem Meandering, though methinks there should be several other means to do "testing".03:23
LinuxephusLinkmaster: I'm wondering how one is to know when another goes away to avoid falsely pinging them (LOLing) when ones having gone away is not made known.03:25
* Linkmaster ponders03:26
Linuxephus[Scratches his beard & laughs good naturedly as he begins to see the ease of which of how similar irc and forums actually are.]03:27
Linuxephus[Ponders the pondering along with Linkmaster]03:27
DaskreechLinuxephus: Far as I know there is no SMS from Yahoo in Kopete. The Yahoo maintainer for Kopete left quite a while back (after getting Voice and Video working) but kde-telepathy would support it03:27
LinkmasterOh jeez, you have no clue...these are forums, just fast03:27
* Linkmaster did mention kde-telepathy earlier03:28
DaskreechLinuxephus: That has not been released yet so if SMS in Yahoo is important to you please feel free to use Pidgin03:28
Daskreech!tab | Linuxephus03:28
ubottuLinuxephus: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.03:28
DaskreechLinkmaster: but not permanent which is a disadvantage03:29
LinkmasterYeah, but it works nicely still03:29
DaskreechLinkmaster: Tends to be friendlier though03:30
LinuxephusDaskreech: I seem to have managed to verify that very thing Daskreech. And thanks to you & Linkmaster for the aforementioned KDE-Telepathy suggestion. Tab...duly noted and much quicker yet.03:30
LinkmasterTHE FACT THAT IT WORKS.....03:30
Daskreechha ha :)03:30
LinuxephusI prefer to stick with KDE apps. as much as possible, so I'll give Telepathy a whirl so to speak. Though Pidgin always was less problematic in my humble opinion.03:32
LinuxephusLinkmaster: So long as it works, that's all that matters. [Contemplates pondering the universe]03:33
Linkmasterdon't, you'll get a headache03:33
MeanderingCodeLinuxephus: starting your message with "/me " will make it an action03:33
* MeanderingCode hopes the suggestion is helpful03:33
LinuxephusIn that case Linkmaster, you can be Misery, and I'll be Loves Company.03:34
LinuxephusMeanderingCode: I think you just confused me abit there MeanderingCode.03:35
MeanderingCodeif i type "/me hopes this is clearer", it will say:03:36
* MeanderingCode hopes this is clearer03:36
* Linkmaster typed '/me' before typing "typed '/me'03:36
LinuxephusMeanderingCode: I though that's what you were implying. Duly noted. I see "making it an action" is differing from the forum version of "making an action".03:37
MeanderingCodewhat is an "action" in a forum?03:37
Linkmaster-action-03:37
* Linkmaster -stabs- MeanderingCode03:38
MeanderingCodetough to do over the wire :P03:38
LinuxephusMeanderingCode: An "action in a forum would more along the lines of starting and ending a sentence with "[ ]" or something similar to give the appearance of taking an action. My apologies as I should've made that clearer.03:39
MeanderingCodemakes sense03:39
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MeanderingCodei use that notation in non irc chat03:40
* Linuxephus Stabs the typing that made the typed typo03:40
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IhazaclueBlah blah blah03:41
LinuxephusMeanderingCode: LOLing...I always use the "[ ]" notation by habit in "stating" an action.03:41
LinuxephusIhazaclue: The only thing I got from that was "blah, blah, blah".03:42
LinuxephusWell ladies and gentleman alike, my humble thanks for the very usefull information. I bid one and all a good day or night, depending on ones location.03:43
LinuxephusSigned: Josephus Duncan Constantinus.03:44
* Daskreech welcomes back the wandering pondering Linuxephus04:03
lnxkde:)04:04
lnxkdenice job with 11.10 looks and runs great04:04
* Linuxephus Welcomes back Daskreech who noticed the wandering, pondering Linuxephus pondering wonderingly around.04:05
Daskreechlnxkde: That would be for #kubuntu-devel :)04:05
lnxkdeDaskreech: :) done04:10
LinuxephusMeanderingCode: Any more luck with getting that Muon Software question tested with a satisfactory answer?04:12
MeanderingCodeNope...dealing w/ other tasks, atm04:12
LinuxephusEh...I'm still trying to decide if I like the Freenode better than using Quassel. Though I'll admit I like, apparently, IRC much better than "chat" and almost as muchas a forum setting.04:13
* Linuxephus Thanks Daskreech for the previous "welcome back".04:15
DaskreechLinuxephus: Freenode is a server. Quassel is a way of accessing the server04:16
DaskreechTHough I know suspect you are talking about chat.frenode.org04:16
DaskreechWait04:16
Daskreech is it http://webchat.freenode.org ?04:16
DaskreechNo wait .net04:16
DaskreechI should really remember that URL better04:17
LinuxephusDaskreech:  It was one of the Freenode sites. It fails my memory as to exactly what the URL was at the moment. And what I meant to infer was: I'm not sure whether I like accessing Freenode via Chromium or Quassel-->>LOLing04:19
Belial`is anyone else having issues with kde going dim and blacking the screen out when watching a movie?04:19
DaskreechBelial`: Change the power setting ?04:19
Belial`Daskreech: to what? shouldn't it just know not to do that while a movie is playing?04:20
DaskreechLinuxephus: :-) I use Konversation myself04:20
LinuxephusBelial`: That will be in your Desktop Settings if I'm not mistaken. Standby, I'll doublecheck that.04:20
vehemothhow would I go about just using certain parts of kde?04:20
Belial`Linuxephus: ok, thanks.04:20
Linuxephus"I use Konversation myself"-->>Huh, I'll go peruse that when my time permits Dask.04:21
DaskreechBelial`: It should if the video player sets the mode. Some of them don't. The new KDE release should have this much easier. There will be a one button switch for it and you can link that to an application so even if the videoplayer doesn't set the power profile correctly Kwin will do it for you04:21
Daskreechvehemoth: Install the parts you care about with dependencies and run those04:22
Belial`Daskreech: i see.04:22
DaskreechBelial`: for now you can press alt+F2 and type power04:22
vehemothDaskreech: I have as much as I can, is it possible to modify the start up process so only some of it starts?04:23
Daskreechvehemoth: What are you trying to acheive ?04:24
LinuxephusBelial`: Dask is correct. Go into your Power Profile Settings and Unclick the "dim display" checkbox in whatever profile you're currently using.04:24
vehemothDaskreech: I don't want the bar at the bottom or whatever does the desktop. I'm assuming it's plasma. I would like the notifications. Seperatley from kde I seem to be able to only start krunner and kwin04:25
mr-richSimple question: How do I run a program as a different user?04:26
Belial`alrighty. thanks, Daskreech, Linuxephus. do i need to uncheck screen energy saving also?04:26
Daskreechvehemoth: if all you want is krunner and kwin you can probably do that. I used to run that as my only options04:26
Daskreechvehemoth: If you specifically don't want just the bar you can click on that button at the end and remove it04:27
LinuxephusBelial`: Not that I'm aware of. My only does that with the "dim display" active.04:27
DaskreechBelial`: That would stop the screen powerdown from kicking in04:27
vehemothDaskreech: can you tell me what draws the notifications?04:27
Belial`alright. thanks again.04:27
Daskreechmr-rich: In theory you should be able to run it from krunner and choose run as a different user from the little wrench beside the application name04:28
DaskreechNo idea if the bug blocking it was fixed though04:28
Daskreechvehemoth: knotify which comes from kdelibs. If you have a Kapp running then the notifications exist.04:28
DaskreechPlasma will skin them to whatever theme you are running. If you don't have plasma running they become static grey boxes04:29
Daskreechmr-rich: which program would you like to run?04:29
mr-richDaskreech: Dolphin04:30
Daskreechmr-rich: Hmm ok let me try it out. I think that might still be broken though04:31
vehemothDaskreech: Okay thanks, I'm going to try some thigns and hopefulyl they'll work04:32
mr-richDaskreech: If it doesn't work, I have a work around ...04:32
Daskreechmr-rich: :) there are workarounds of course. That's just a GUI exposure of other wasys of doing it. Would be nice if it worked though :-/ Seems that bug hasn't been closed04:33
LinuxephusBelial`: Alternately, Gnome Mplayer has a setting that disables Dimming & SCreensaver during video playback. That's merely a "heads-up" mind you.04:33
Daskreechvehemoth: alright. Are you jsut trying to get rid of the panel?04:33
DaskreechBelial`: To be honest I can't remember when last  player didn't flip those properly though04:34
Belial`it happens with dragon player.04:34
Belial`so far it's the only i've used.04:34
jmichaelxdoes smplayer not also have such settings?04:36
LinuxephusGnome Mplayer would stop that from being a problem for those not wanting to muck about in the Power Management settings. Works perfectly for me on Kubuntu 11.04, though I've the "dim display" option unchecked to begin with.04:36
vehemothDaskreech: I'm trying to mix and match things that I like from different environments. Though I'm obviously not used to trying to rip apart DEs. This one had frustrated me so much but I just looked over a page and found that I could start krunner separetely04:36
Daskreechvehemoth: You can indeed04:36
Linuxephusjmichaelx: I'm not sure since I haven't used it since my Gnome 2.32 desktop days.04:37
jmichaelxLinuxephus: just a question, but why would you  use gnome mplayer in kde, with options like smplayer around?04:38
jmichaelxahh04:38
vehemothDaskreech: Though I still can't find anything on how to modify the start process of ksmserver and all that stuff04:38
jmichaelxLinuxephus: just asking, since smplayer might be a bit of a better match for kde... but if you prefer gnome mplayer, far be it from me to tell you to use something else04:39
LinuxephusBecause I'm what you might refer to as a desktop mixer...Example: I'm running KDE 4.6.x and Gnome3 on my own install. Preferences I suppose.04:39
jmichaelxi must say that i am so far very disappointed in vdpau performance on this machine in oneiric04:39
vehemothDaskreech: or maybe it was kwrapper4, anyway I'll get onto what I was trying04:39
Daskreechvehemoth: alright04:40
Daskreech!info kmplayer04:40
jmichaelxLinuxephus: yup, it's all about what works best for you04:40
Daskreech!info kaffiene04:40
ubottukmplayer (source: kmplayer): media player for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.11.2c-1 (oneiric), package size 620 kB, installed size 3300 kB04:40
ubottuPackage kaffiene does not exist in oneiric04:40
DaskreechHmm04:40
jmichaelxkaffeine*04:40
Deet`Ok, so i updated and upgraded my way from 8.04 to 10.04 and finally got all my media to play. it was awesome. then i paused Commando, left for an hour, came back and i'm right back to square one. audio works, video is just a blue background04:40
Daskreech!info kaffeine04:40
ubottukaffeine (source: kaffeine): versatile media player for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 1.2.2-1ubuntu3 (oneiric), package size 357 kB, installed size 1552 kB04:40
Daskreech\o/04:41
jmichaelxyay04:41
Linuxephusjmichaelx: And in the end that's all that matters [lol]04:41
jmichaelxLinuxephus: i agree04:41
DaskreechDeet`: what video codec is it using?04:41
Daskreech!info commando04:41
ubottuPackage commando does not exist in oneiric04:41
Daskreechwhat's Commando ?04:41
LinuxephusDaskreech: already have all those you've listed. As for 11.10, I'm waiting for it to mature a bit more so to speak.04:41
Deet`movie with Ahhnold04:41
DaskreechLinuxephus: Good move04:42
Deet`that part was probably irrelevent. had no idea what codec is being used.04:42
DaskreechDeet`: Oh Ahhnold. He'll blue screen anything04:42
Deet`lol Daskreech, not just him, every movie files04:42
Deet`just a blue background in the media player. doesn't mater which player i use either04:42
DaskreechAh that's more worrying :)04:43
vehemothHow would I log out with a command?04:43
DaskreechDeet`: sounds like a video option. What driver are you using?04:43
Daskreechvehemoth: logout ?04:43
Daskreechvehemoth: unless you mean from KDE04:43
Deet`good question. i just know it worked, didn't do anything then it quit. lemme check the video settings04:43
DaskreechDeet`: What video card do you have?04:44
Deet`ATI Radeon 955004:44
DaskreechAh I've the 956004:44
Deet`256mb, AGP8x04:45
DaskreechOr 9650 I forget04:45
vehemothDaskreech: pkill X probably, unless there's a better way of course04:45
Deet`i forgot how to look up my drives by command line or in kde404:45
Deet`:/04:45
Daskreechvehemoth: you can do a dbus logout command04:45
Deet`i know it installed the ATI catalyst stuff04:45
DaskreechDeet`: umm.. depends on what you are looking for04:46
vehemothDaskreech: cool, I'll look into it04:46
Deet`drivers* sorry04:46
DaskreechDeet`: Ah well then I know what driver you are using then04:46
Deet`well, at least someone knows what i'm doing :P04:47
Deet`except i don't belive i'm using the ATI driver as Catalyst doesn't run04:48
Deet`joy: aticonfig: No supported adapters detected04:49
Daskreechmr-rich: you'll be happy to know the krunner works :) I was doing it wrong04:50
DaskreechDeet`: from the command line can you type lsmod | grep ati04:51
Daskreechlet me know if it returns anything04:51
Daskreechmr-rich: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20522904:52
ubottuKDE bug 205229 in general "The "run as different user" option doesn't work" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]04:52
Deet`nope04:52
DaskreechDeet`: press up and replace ati with radeon04:53
Deet`Daskreech: nada04:53
DaskreechDeet`: press up again and replace radeon with fglrx04:53
Deet`nothign04:54
Daskreech>_>04:54
Deet`something has gone way wrong04:54
DaskreechDeet`: can you pastebin the output of lsmod for me?04:55
Deet`the funny thing is there is no output04:55
Deet`just goes to next line04:55
Deet`oh wait04:55
DaskreechDeet`: from lsmod with nothing else on the line ?04:55
Deet`you want all of i04:55
Deet`it*04:55
DaskreechDeet`: Yes04:55
Deet`Daskreech: http://paste.kde.org/137053/04:57
DaskreechDeet`: do you have onboard video for that computer?04:58
Deet`nope04:58
DaskreechDeet`: You don't have a driver loaded up for ati04:59
Deet`i see that.04:59
DaskreechDeet`: what does sudo modprobe radeon && lsmod | grep radeon say ?05:00
Deet`Daskreech: i don't know what that was supposed to do, but it killed my gfx until reboot05:04
DaskreechDeet`: well that's useful to know05:04
mr-richDaskreech: so, where do I find "run as a different user" in krunner?05:05
DaskreechDeet`: could you pastebin sudo lshw -C video05:05
Deet`i'm gonna have to fight with it tommorow. need to sleep05:05
Daskreechmr-rich: type dolphin. You will see (at least) two entries one with a cog at one end and a wrench on the other. Click the wrench05:05
Deet`Daskreech: here's this tho http://paste.kde.org/137059/05:06
DaskreechDeet`: ok if you have mplayer you can try redirecting xv tomorrow05:06
DaskreechDeet`: mplayer -vo xv <path/to/movie>05:06
Deet`i got kmplayer does that count?05:06
DaskreechDeet`: it does indeed05:06
Deet`that gives me blue backgrounds too :/05:06
DaskreechDeet`: well it's not an xv issue then05:07
Deet`any who, windows still works. i'll figure it out tommorow05:07
DaskreechDeet`: both unclaimed. :-/ Ok05:07
DaskreechDeet`: night05:07
Deet`and all my 3d games work fine too05:07
Deet`o.O05:07
Deet`gnight05:07
mr-richDaskreech: I click on the wrench I get a list of plugins ... ???05:09
Daskreechmr-rich: wrong wrench05:09
Daskreechmr-rich: the wrench beside the result for dolphin05:09
keithzgThe one that says "Run dolphin"05:10
Daskreech^^05:11
mr-richDaskreech: Found that ... :) ... getting nothing ...05:14
Daskreechmr-rich: what version of KDE are you runing?05:15
mr-richDaskreech: the one that came with 11.10 ... 4.7, I think?05:17
Daskreechmr-rich: should work.05:18
mr-richDaskreech: I enter the username & password, but I get no window ...05:18
Daskreechmr-rich: works here05:19
Daskreechtakes a little while to open05:19
Daskreechmr-rich: try it with kate05:19
mr-richdidn't work ... I think I know what the problem is ... I have to edit the user and make it so it can run x apps ... :)05:22
mr-richI have a local web server with vhosts ... and I'm doing some dev work for a club I belong to ... so, in order to make it act like a regular web server, I created a user for that web ...05:24
scud_bucketif there are any dev doods here who contributed to Kubuntu, just wanna say thanks. been using it for two weeks now...im hooked.05:24
mr-richgave it limited permissions & stuff ... :(05:24
Daskreechscud_bucket: They are here but more likely to get your thanks if you go to #kubuntu-devel and say that05:29
LinuxephusA-yuh, methinks I like the Quassel client better than such being done in a web-browser. I gave Konversations a shot Daskreech, and thus will I be sticking with Quassel for all intents & purposes.05:34
DaskreechLinuxephus: Good enough :)05:36
LinuxephusDaskreech: I notice Konversation seems to be somewhat new by Kubuntu standards. And is there a way to retrieve messages after having logged out on the off chance one has been addressed in said process of being offline?05:38
DaskreechLinuxephus: For Quassel there is. Not for konversation05:38
DaskreechLinuxephus: Of course someone can leave you messag with msgserv05:38
LinuxephusHa! Your a veritable wealth of knowledge there Dask.05:39
LinuxephusDaskreech: I believe that should be in the log settings themself then, yes?05:39
DaskreechLinuxephus: what shoudl be?05:40
LinuxephusDaskreech: Backlog Fetching to be more specific. In what manner can that be utilized?05:41
DaskreechLinuxephus: Ah umm your client logs the things it sees  (if you have that enabled of course)05:41
DaskreechIf you are offline then that stuff in general is gone. Though this channel is logged by robots and put up on the internet05:42
LinuxephusYes, I'm aware of how the "client log" operates now. What of the internet logs themselves, can they be accessed by anyone?05:43
sillytonesDaskreech: are there any irc clients that can use the online logs the way that quassel uses its quasselcore for backlogs?05:44
LinuxephusP.S.-Of course I have that enabled.05:44
LinuxephusWhat Silly stated.05:44
DaskreechLinuxephus: that's dependent per channel. Ubuntu Project has all the channels owned by them logged and publicly available. some (most?) channels are not logged and publicly available though I suspect many will have a bot logging it somewhere05:45
Daskreechsillytones: Quassel05:45
sillytonesDaskreech: Quasel can use online logs instead of quasselcore?05:46
DaskreechIn theory any GUI irc client could use quassel core and I tried to see if konversation would support a plugin that does that05:46
LinuxephusThat would be the answer I sought and suspected Dask. Never hurts to double check though when in the process of learning new open source type tech.05:46
Daskreechsillytones: Ah misread that :) No since a) most channels don't have an online log and b) every online log is up to i) the way it was logged and ii) the way it's presented. There is no common way of presenting, finding or accessing that information05:47
Daskreechand No good irc client is going to try and tie itself to a few channels on a single server.05:48
kadobanhow do i turn on 3 button mouse emulation in kubuntu? i don't see anything in the mouse settings05:48
sillytonesah makes sense05:48
DaskreechI would guess that for most scriptable irc clients you could write a plugin for channels you care about. of course you could just do what Quassel is trying to imitate05:48
sillytonestoo bad, its nice having irc on all the time, but I only have one year of free Amazon E205:48
kadobanas in, hitting left+right click = middle click.  there must be a way, right?05:49
Daskreechsillytones: irssi and screen?05:49
Daskreechkadoban: hitting right and left at the same time should emulate middle click05:49
sillytonesDaskreech: you still have to have a server that's on 24-705:49
kadobanDaskreech: and if it doesn't? ('cause it doesn't...)05:50
LinuxephusDaskreech: Are you sure about that as according to Quassel's backlog fetching option, it lists two options: 1-Fixed chat logs. 2-Unread messages per chat.05:50
Daskreechsillytones: if you make friends on IRC you'll find a lot of people willing to give you a small account on their server. A number of people have a small machine sitting at home just for this purpose05:50
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sillytonesoh cool05:51
Daskreechkadoban: you can probably run xinput list to find out what ID your mouse has05:52
Daskreechthen run xinput set-prop <device_ID> 248 105:53
DaskreechThat will set middlemousebutton (which is property 248) to on (which is 1)05:53
DaskreechLinuxephus: sure about what?05:53
LinuxephusScratch that question Dask. I misread one of your comments to Silly while perusing two other channels aside from this one.05:55
DaskreechLinuxephus: Fair enough. I'll be sure about it then05:56
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kadobanDaskreech: thanks a lot.  248 didn't work, but i found the right one in xinput list-props <device_ID> (just in case anyone else is reading this, i'm sure you know)05:57
Daskreechkadoban: :) so it's working now?05:57
kadobanyep yep :)05:57
LinuxephusApparently I'm doing too much wandering and pondering...much to the contrary of Linkmaster's previous advice.05:57
Daskreechkadoban: hooray :)05:58
vehemothare the kde notifications part of plasma?06:10
LINKSWORD2OK, this is unusual. The last few times that I've upgraded to Kubuntu 11.10, I've had problems with the window-bar at the top of a window not displaying.06:10
LINKSWORD2I'm currently on Kubuntu 11.04 with KDE 4.6. I need to know if the problem I'm experiencing with Kubuntu 11.10 is fixed before I choose to upgrade or not.06:10
vehemoththe only information I can find relating to something that looks like notifications is a thing called extender. any ideas if it's part of plasma?06:15
LINKSWORD2!knotify | vehemoth06:17
LINKSWORD2KNotify is its own application, vehemoth. From what I know, it's not part of the plasma-shell interface.06:18
LINKSWORD2I could be wrong, but in studying the Linux system interface, I'm fairly sure.06:19
vehemothLINKSWORD2: does knotify still exist, I can't find anything on it for the recent kde releases06:20
LINKSWORD2I'm checking.06:20
vehemoththough I think I've found a way to test whether notifications is part of extender06:20
LINKSWORD2OK. If you'll check that, I'll look into my research info, and we can compare results.06:21
LINKSWORD2vehemoth: From what I can tell, KNotify has been integrated into the system notifications manager, which MAY still be under the KNotify name.06:24
LINKSWORD2It no longer shows up in the applications list, however, so I'm not sure what to make of it.06:24
Daskreechvehemoth: No they are just skinned by plasma06:24
* LINKSWORD2 facepalms.*06:25
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: It's part of the kde libraries06:25
LINKSWORD2Daskreech: I don't suppose you've scrolled back and found my posts?06:26
Daskreechplasma is just one way those notifications can be communicated to the user06:26
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: how far back?06:26
vehemothI'll check what I was after and come back06:26
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: You couldn't run kwin ?06:26
vehemothit does seem to be plasma that displays them06:27
LINKSWORD2Re-posting....06:27
vehemothguess I'll be trying to compile the ubuntu one06:27
LINKSWORD2OK, this is unusual. The last few times that I've upgraded to Kubuntu 11.10, I've had problems with the window-bar at the top of a window not displaying.06:28
LINKSWORD2I'm currently on Kubuntu 11.04 with KDE 4.6. I need to know if the problem I'm experiencing with Kubuntu 11.10 is fixed before I choose to upgrade or not.06:28
unikone#españa06:28
unikonehi06:28
unikonehi06:28
unikonealgun español06:28
LINKSWORD2!es | unikone06:28
ubottuunikone: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.06:28
unikonethcx06:29
Daskreechvehemoth: if You kill the system tray in plasma (which houses the notifications) you should just get a grey box06:29
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: RIght Kwin wouldn't run for you?06:29
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: open a konsole06:29
LINKSWORD2I don't even know if it's kwin.06:29
Daskreechvehemoth: if You kill the system tray in plasma (which houses the notifications) you should just get a grey box06:30
LINKSWORD2And for now, I'm still on version 11.04. I'm hoping to find out if the problem has been fixed before I upgrade.06:30
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: type in kquitapp kwin && sleep 15 && kwin &06:30
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: tell me if that's what you are seeing when you go to 11.1006:30
LINKSWORD2O_o!06:31
LINKSWORD2OK? Checking.06:31
vehemothDaskreech: I don't quite understand but I don't need to. and those plsama extender things you can drag onto the desktop anyway06:31
Daskreechvehemoth: :-) OK06:31
vehemothhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GIPKd5EiuE06:32
vehemothdemonstartion on them if you want06:32
Daskreechvehemoth: Thanks06:32
LINKSWORD2Daskreech: Close, but not quite. It's "there" but it becomes completely transparent, and does not show the buttons on the top window-bar.06:32
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: I think you may somehow be running compiz06:33
LINKSWORD2Not that I know of....06:33
Daskreechthat does sound like a compiz setting. COuld be wrong though06:33
DaskreechAnyway bed time for me :)06:33
LINKSWORD2Wait a moment, please.06:33
Daskreechalright06:34
LINKSWORD2OK.... I tried that same string and typed in compiz in place of kwin.... With no results.06:35
LINKSWORD2Looks like Compiz is specific to 11.10?06:35
vehemothkwin uses compiz as a back end doesn't it. I think that's what happens when you have desktop effects enabled06:36
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: no it's specific to ubuntu06:36
LINKSWORD2I've had desktop effects both enabled and disabled in 11.10, and the problem does not change.06:36
DaskreechI have no idea why it would turn up in an upgrade but the removing of buttons and being transparent is something people have been upset about with Ubuntu settings06:37
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: How do you know it's transparent ?06:37
Daskreechvehemoth: No it doens't kwin and compiz cannot coexist06:38
DaskreechIf one starts the other must end06:38
LINKSWORD2Daskreech: Because I can see the background of the desktop behind the window in question. If I click to the very far-right, the window closes like I have clicked on the X button.06:39
LINKSWORD2But it does not show up. At least not visibly.06:39
vehemothI didn't mean compiz as a full WM, compiz as a library06:39
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: and dragging around the area above the application moves it?06:40
Daskreechvehemoth: ah. Well still incorrect. I don't think that compiz has a library first of all06:40
LINKSWORD2Daskreech: I'm not sure, because it doesn't restore to a non-full size.06:41
Daskreechvehemoth: They may very well use the same OpenGL library though06:41
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: >_>06:41
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: are you just running plasma-netbook instead of plasma-desktop ?06:41
LINKSWORD2All it seems that I can do is maximize or minimize it with keyboard shortcuts I have assigned globally.06:41
DaskreechNow that sounds remarkably like a plasma-netbook setting06:42
LINKSWORD2Nope. Desktop. I've been through this roughly a half-dozen times. This time I'm hoping to find out if it's fixed or how to fix it before I upgrade.06:42
DaskreechAh well. Sorry I've not been much help there06:42
vehemothwww.compiz.org, read the description maybe you can understand it better06:42
LINKSWORD2One thing I'm thinking of is possibly that the netbook settings could have migrated to the desktop preferences list, but that would imply a SERIOUS glitch.06:43
vehemoththough I think I'm wrong about kwin using it06:43
vehemothhttp://techbase.kde.org/Projects/KWin/4.0-release-notes#Why_not_Compiz.3F06:44
DaskreechLINKSWORD2: Quite serious.06:44
LINKSWORD2And I just don't see how that could happen.06:45
LINKSWORD2I'm going to hit the looney bin. >.<06:45
LINKSWORD2I may just have to wait until Kubuntu 12 comes out.06:46
AndroidLoverInSFkde in ubuntu 11.10 is kinda buggy. i was in virtualbox and it froze up my whole pc, then tried to burn a cd via brasero, and the burning hung up. i was liking kde otherwise. any tips?06:54
Peace-bah06:56
Peace-virtualbox?06:56
TorchAndroidLoverInSF: neither virtualbox nor brasero is kde software06:56
Peace-try to load kde in failsafe mode06:56
Peace-but i guess is a virtualbox issue06:56
Peace-not a kde issue06:57
TorchAndroidLoverInSF: the former uses a kernel module that can easily lock up your machine, the latter deals with hardware that can be buggy and bring down the machine, too06:57
AndroidLoverInSFyeah, but still, interaction with kde06:57
AndroidLoverInSFbrasero sucks i know, but still06:58
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LinuxephusWell, apparently I seem to have snookered my own abiltity to add channels in Quassel. That being said; anybody have any quick advice as to how to add #kubuntu-offtopic in Quassel?07:20
LinuxephusConsider this my annoyed confusion as to above mentioned.07:21
jussiLinuxephus: what do you mean by "add"?07:25
jussiLinuxephus: you just join the channel normally, then it is automatically on your join list when you restart the client. If you dont want to be in it, you just /part07:26
Linuxephusjussi: I'm trying to access #kubuntu-offtopic using Quassel. However, I'm unable to do so currently.07:26
jussiLinuxephus: and "/join #kubuntu-offtopic" doesnt work?07:27
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apersonhow can I get rid of the notification that nepomuk isn't running when I start kde?  I know nepomuk isn't running!07:43
sorush20_is there a media manger movie manger for kubuntu?08:30
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sorush20_video clips08:32
[poisonborz]Hi all. I have Ispconfig3 with pure-ftpd, but can't hide hidden/"dotfiles" for every user. in /etc/pure-ftpd/conf I have DisplayDotFiles set 'no', and 'ProhibitDotFilesRead' with 'yes'. Still, the files get displayed...09:07
naftilos76Hi everyone, i am facing a major problem with kmail 2 in Kubuntu 11.10. The langiages installed were English and my native Greek. I uninstalled Greek and before restarting or loging out i reinstalled through the tool in system tools in Kubuntu. Next time i entered Kubuntu all of my emails were gone. Help me please. All the emails are related to my business and the last backup is not recent. Can anyone help?09:35
Cradamnaftilos76: sorry, in most cases if somethings gone, its gone fol09:36
Cradam*for good09:36
Cradamnaftilos76: do you have a way to access your email in your browser?09:36
naftilos76everything is erased from the email servers. isn't kmail using akonadi to store everything in db?09:37
Cradamooh, why on earth would you erase it from the servers unless your allowance is tiny09:37
naftilos76that is not the problem now man09:38
Cradamugh09:38
Cradamoops09:38
Cradamnaftilos76: it kinda is the problem because you just removed your chance of backup09:39
naftilos76well it seems that nothing is lost09:39
Cradamwhat but you just said you couldnt get at it09:39
naftilos76i did "update folders and subfolders" and kmail started restoring all emails09:39
Cradamahh, good09:40
naftilos76all that stuff are new in kmail man09:40
naftilos76there was no "update folders and subfolders" before09:40
Cradamstupid X in konversation09:41
Cradamits way too easy to press09:41
naftilos76Cradam: God, i am going to the toilet to change my underware. I've shit in my pants.09:42
Cradambaha09:42
naftilos76can you imagine that? i have got all my business in these email...09:44
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kontohello10:48
Cradamhello10:48
kontoHow are you?10:48
Cradambored10:49
konto__Heja!10:49
kontoWhere can I uninstall Linux? :)10:49
konto_:P10:49
konto__Who is cradam10:49
Cradamohkae WTF10:49
konto__??10:49
konto__FAP10:49
Cradamwhy are there 3 people with the same name10:49
kontofap10:49
kontoi don't know10:49
konto_where are you from cradam ?10:49
Cradamengland10:50
konto__ha10:50
kontoRussia10:50
konto__\ name fapek10:50
konto__he10:50
konto_i will change my nick but i dont know what help10:50
konto__i do10:50
marcusdavidusmy kubuntu rox10:50
Cradamkonto_: /nick name10:50
konto_konto_:/fapper POL10:51
Cradam...10:51
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nameHeja10:51
rolandis there any way to specify the geometry of the window to be max vertical? kdialog --menu "message" --geometry 400x400 text1 text1 text2 text210:51
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POLISHcradam thx :D10:51
nameNo to tera jezdym10:51
named10:52
Cradamname: ...10:52
named10:52
POLISHsorry name from poland village :P10:52
named10:52
POLISHwhat's up cradam in England ? :>10:52
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imblacks10:52
imblackIt's me10:52
ikoniaok - enough messing around now imblack/name10:53
RussianPoweryep yep10:53
imblackWho are you?10:53
RussianPowerI don't know.10:53
RussianPowerRussia!10:53
POLISHSMOLEŃSK !!!!10:53
RussianPower:D10:53
ikoniaenough10:53
imblackNie rób siary10:53
ikoniathe topic of this channel is kubuntu support discussion, please keep to that topic10:54
ikoniathe language of the channel is English only.10:54
RussianPowerok10:54
alexdevillxhow to start a jar file?11:00
well_laid_lawnjava /path/to/.jar11:00
ikoniayou use java - it's a java file11:00
konto_ale nudy11:01
konto_wiśnia, nie hakuj11:02
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graingertit seems kopete permanantly activates my webcam11:39
graingertis this expected?11:39
graingertoh no it's only when I have the settings open11:43
mario_ciao12:12
mario_list12:13
keda87anyone can u help me?12:17
keda87i'hve proble with my kubuntu12:17
SunTsukeda87: nobody is able to help without knowing what your problem is12:17
keda87i'm installing kubuntu oneiric in toshiba satellite L745, but the battery indicator is not detected12:18
hakimhello12:19
keda87yep12:19
caffeineshockcan anybody tell me, how to enable random mode in amarok?12:20
Cradamcaffeineshock: you mean shuffle12:20
caffeineshockyes12:20
hakimi'm trying to mount a samba drive so i can work with it like it was a local drive. i actually want to create a project in netbeans from existing source without having to synchronize with the file on my computer12:21
hakimif somebody knows how to, that would be awesome12:21
Cradamcaffeineshock: sorry, cant help, doesnt seem like amarok supports it12:22
Cradamcaffeineshock: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=115&t=8369012:23
caffeineshockthx12:23
caffeineshockwell... random sort... its not the same12:24
keda87btw how to exit from IRC channel????12:24
Cradamkeda87: /part12:25
keda87sorry i'm new in kubuntu12:25
keda87just part?12:25
Cradamkeda87: that has nothing to do  with kubuntu, its irc in general12:25
Cradamkeda87: well either /part or /part #channel reason12:25
Cradame.g:12:26
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Cradam/part #foo i hate you guys12:26
Cradam:P12:26
keda87ohhh haha, thx :)12:26
Cradamor if its konversation you are using, just press the X12:26
Cradam by the channel name12:27
Cradami hate that X, i always accidentally press it12:27
BluesKajHi all12:30
keda87back :)12:30
spacebug-hello12:31
BluesKajwell, I guess ppl have seem the latest broken dependencies during their recent upgrades , no doubt ...still that gtk 3 problem12:32
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CradamBluesKaj: i upgrade once a year. or once every 2 years on my VPS12:35
BluesKajCradam, and ?12:37
CradamBluesKaj: as in i havent seen it12:38
BluesKajno kidding12:39
QuintasanCradam, BluesKaj: Are you running 4.7.2?12:40
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BluesKajQuintasan, yes it's default on 11.1012:42
QuintasanBluesKaj: Could you try adding a NEW entry into Kickoff? I need someone to tell me if it works or it's my install that refuses to cooperate with me12:43
CradamQuintasan: 4.6.512:43
QuintasanCradam: Oh, well, I need someone with 4.7.2 to test it12:44
Cradamany major differences from 6 to 7?12:44
QuintasanCradam: bug fixes, bug fixes, more features, and bug fixes12:45
Cradamaka bug fixes :P12:45
Quintasannew features as well :P12:45
Cradamjust aslong as they dont go all touchscreenifyed12:46
Quintasanhttp://kde.org/info/4.7.2.php12:46
Cradamwhen will devs learn to name versions in files with a hyphen or an underscore12:46
BluesKajQuintasan, I'm not happy with 4.7.2 , due to windows sizing probs and toolbar fonts on apps run as root being unconfigurable12:47
Cradamalso when will devs learn that most people dont have touchscreens12:48
BluesKajQuintasan, what app do you suggest I add to the kicker ?12:49
Cradamlike since when has gnome been able to run on an android tablet anyway12:49
Cradamor any tablet for that matter12:49
QuintasanBluesKaj: I have no idea, try adding an entry for `ls -al ~`12:51
QuintasanBluesKaj: Anything will do12:51
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Cradamhow do i stop links opening in rekonq?13:02
Cradami much prefer chrome and firefox13:03
BluesKajok ,Quintasan I was able to add an entry into the kicker , drpobox13:03
BluesKajer dropbox13:03
QuintasanBluesKaj: It works?13:03
BluesKajyes , I just quit it (it runs as a daemon) and then launched it from the kicker , Quintasan13:04
QuintasanHmm13:05
BluesKajI have noicon setup yet tho13:05
BluesKajno icon13:05
lilianHello13:10
SunTsuCradam: isn't it enough to define chrome or ff as your preferred browser?13:11
CradamSunTsu: well chrome isnt moaning about not being default13:11
Cradamahh fixed13:12
lilianWho else things that this add-on should come by default in Kubuntu?: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+KDE+%28Firefox+Theme%29?content=11796213:12
Cradamlilian: ehh thats firefox 3.513:12
Cradamoops13:12
Cradamno it isnt13:13
Cradamits theme 3.5 lol13:13
lilianCradam: I use it in 7.0.1 now13:13
Cradamlilian: you know of a chrome version?13:13
lilianCradam: You mean of Chrome theme or Chrome browser?13:13
Cradameven though my oxygen probably doesnt look like your oxygen13:13
Cradamlilian: browser13:13
lilianCradam: I know about Chrome? That little crashy bastard :)13:13
lilianCradam: I know about Chrome... That little crashy bastard :)13:14
Cradam....13:14
Cradamit doesnt crash13:14
Cradamit crashed back in the chrome classic days13:14
lilianCradam: A lot... and not only on my laptop13:14
Cradamchrome 16 has never crashed for me13:14
Cradamlilian: what was the last version of chrome you used?13:15
lilianCradam: And + I open a bunch of tabs in Firefox, Chrome would kill my laptop in this case... No, thx, I'll stick with what's best not what's the most shown in the ads13:15
SunTsulilian: so you're using opera? *ducks and runs*13:16
lilianCradam: Chrome 16.0.912.413:16
Cradamlilian: ehh chrome is way better than firefox13:16
lilianCradam: If you say so...13:16
lilianCradam: Just use it for urself, and leave me alone with chrome now13:16
Cradamlilian: i know so, i have to fix font bugs caused by gecko in my web pages13:17
SunTsuCradam: it's better regarding js speed, for everything else I like ff more13:17
lilianCradam: Ow, ye, for a Web Designer/Developer it's better cause it doesn't keep to the standarts as Firefox does, so if u make some mistakes in Chrome is ok, I know13:17
CradamSunTsu: the only thing i prefer in firefox is how it handles border-radius13:17
Cradamlilian: chrome follows the standards13:18
lilianCradam: LOL13:18
Cradamlilian: btw i like firefox, i just wont have someone say its better than chrome because it just isnt13:18
BluesKajchromium was my default unril the sync mode screwed up my facebook page and gave the account to my wife's page , so I was no longer the owner of my own page ..Firefox knows how to make the distinction between me and my wife's pages , and we are on different pcs13:19
lilianCradam: version 3.5 wasn't, that's when all created this idea of Chrome being better, I was using chrome than too, since Firefox 6 I think Firefox is better than Chrome13:19
CradamBluesKaj: well just make 2 different sync accounts13:19
BluesKajCradam, they are differnt sync accounts13:20
CradamBluesKaj: hmm weird13:20
BluesKajyes , very13:20
lilianOk, I came here for other reasons than listening that Chrome is better for no reason...13:21
Cradamluckily i dont have 2 people using my comps13:21
Cradami have m13:21
Cradame13:21
lilianIs there any developer in here? :)13:21
BluesKajlilian, ask away13:21
lilian[16:12:16] <lilian> Who else things that this add-on should come by default in Kubuntu?: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Oxygen+KDE+%28Firefox+Theme%29?content=11796213:21
BluesKajCradam, I already explained , they are different pcs , I have a linuxbox and she has her W7 box13:22
Cradamlilian: you admitted that js was better in chrome13:22
Cradamso thats not no reason13:23
lilianCradam: Only JS Engine is better... The rest of the browser... Firefox is better in any other way(except boot time, but wait for Firefox 8), I'll show u a video what it will be like since version 813:23
lilianCradam: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WqHaSC5zkg13:24
Cradamlilian: sure, i like new browsers and want to switch to firefox, its just that i find that chrome is faster for my workflow atm13:24
Cradamyep thats fast13:24
lilianCradam: Continue finding that and don't try to convince every guy that uses Firefox to use a Semi-Closed Source browser13:25
hakimanybody knows how i could connect a samba drive ?13:29
Peace-hakim: sudo apt-get install samba13:31
hakimthanks, but i already have it, i just don't know how to make it like a drive13:33
lilianhakim: You use KDE?13:33
hakimi do13:33
lilianhakim: And you want to connect to someone else?13:34
lilianhakim: Which uses a Windows machine I suppose13:34
hakimyes, we have a server, and i need to access it via samba13:34
lilianhakim: Open Dolphin13:34
hakimyup13:34
lilianhakim: To the left u see "Networks"13:34
lilianhakim: To the left u see "Network"13:34
hakimok13:34
lilianand open Samba Shares13:35
hakimit's empty13:35
lilianhmm, it works with no problems in my case13:35
hakimok, i'm a beginner. the server is a linux one. but the admin installed samba so workers (like me before) using windows could access it13:36
hakimso i don't know, maybe there is another way13:36
lilianEven if it writes "Samba Shares" do: sudo apt-get install samba -y13:36
hakimok i'm trying13:37
hakimit says that it's up to date13:37
lilianThen, go again into Dolphin->Network->Samba Shares13:37
lilianIt should show u that it searches in the bottom-right corner of Dolphin13:38
lilianThere should appear something, even if u r alone in the network13:38
hakimnow i see a work group, and my comp is in it but that's all. so probably the server is in another workgroup ?13:38
lilianyep, looks like the group may not be called "WORKGROUP" in ur case13:39
hakimok thanks a lot lilian for your help :)13:39
lilianbtw13:39
liliantry to using the IP13:39
lilianfor example smb://192.168.1.213:40
hakimok, where do i type that ? i'm so used to windows and it's address bar13:40
lilianat the top of the dolphin u see "smb:" in bolt13:41
lilianjust click on it13:41
lilian192.168.1.2 was just an example, I'm not sure what IP's u have there13:41
hakimyeah ok :)13:41
hakimnothing appears13:42
lilianAnd you wrote the right IP?13:42
BluesKajhmm, I recommend not disabling multiarch support if you run a 64bit system, just fixed my depndency problem after updating today , by re-enabling multiarch support13:42
hakimyes13:42
lilianhakim: sec, I'll try it with my mate here13:43
hakimok thank you13:43
lilianIt works13:46
lilianHe uses Windows 7 and I use Kubuntu 11.10 with KDE 4.7.213:46
lilianin smb: wrote his IP13:46
lilianhe shared with "Everyone" not "Homegroup"13:47
lilianthe only problem, it asked for his Username and Password because he didn't removed this option from settings13:47
hakimok weird, i'm probably doing something wrong.13:47
hakimi have a username and password, i'll ask my admin which workgroup the server is in13:47
hakimor i'll try to mount a ssh drive instead13:48
hakimanyway, thanks a lot for your time lilian13:48
lilianhakim: np13:48
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BluesKajhakim, in W7 on windows machines the workgroup is now called homegroup , altho the W7 shares still show up in dolphin/samba shares as workgroup.13:55
hakimyeah, unfortunately, i'm not on W7 anymore, and the server is running on linux. i don't know if i made myself clear earlier, sometimes i tend to be confusing sorry13:56
hakimso the workgroup is probably not called homegroup either13:56
antoranzhi, people14:00
antoranzsince I dist-upgraded to oneiric, I can't use kmail14:00
antoranz"Failed to fetch the resource collection"14:00
antoranzdoes it ring a bell?14:00
Linkmasterantoranz: You'll be well suited to look at the bug reports/forums on that. Or try #kmail as well, the distro went from kmail to kmail2, so there are some differences and the like.14:02
vadraoHi all, How can I open konsole with a keyboard command. I tried looking in Global keyboard shortcuts. But I could not find it.14:04
SunTsuvadrao: if there is no shortcut - define one14:04
hakimvadrao: i actually use launchy, but i don't know if you want to install another software14:04
BluesKajhakim, no I understtod that you are on kubuntu and I thought you were trying to access shares ona W7 machine ., hence my explanation14:04
vadraoSunTsu: How to go about that. Using Global keyboard shortcuts ?14:05
hakimok BluesKaj thanks :)14:05
Trashihi. i try to sync my iphone with the help of amarok, but it shows allways "zero tracks". by default on my system exists the packages like libimobiledevice2 and libmtp9 ... if i understand the descriptions right, it should work. does anybody have any experience to sync iphone/pod from kubuntu 11.10?14:05
vadraohakim: I would like to have simple keyboard shortcut through which I could do that14:06
hakimok, i see. i like launchy because it allows you to launch any app just by typing the first letter its name. so i find it useful, because there is no equivalent natively in windows and i'm used to it now. but maybe kubuntu lets you define all your shortcuts ^^14:07
SunTsuhakim: I can't tell you how exactly, because I don't run kde at the moment. I just know that you can create shortcuts that run commands, did that a lot14:11
vadraoSunTsu: Thanks..14:12
* BluesKaj just adds his fav apps into the panel , one mouse click does the trick14:12
SunTsuBluesKaj: I like to e.g. run my screensaver in lock mode with just a single shortcut14:13
hakimok :) SunTsu14:14
SunTsuhakim: yeah, sorry, meant vadrao14:14
hakim^^14:14
BluesKajSunTsu, isn't it great , all these little tips that make life on linux so easy :)14:14
hakimwell i have another problem, i downloaded mysql workbench, tried to install it, but it stopped on the dependicies step and now i can't use it or re-install it, what do i do ?14:16
BluesKajhakim, 64 bit ?14:22
hakimyup14:23
BluesKaj11.10?14:23
hakimalso :)14:23
BluesKajgot multiarch support installed , it should by default , but chack to make sure.14:23
BluesKajerr check14:23
hakimsorry to know such a few, but how do i check ?14:25
BluesKajopen muon , and type in multiarch, hakim14:26
hakimBluesKaj: ok14:26
hakimBluesKaj: i only have multiarch-support(amd64) and ia32-libs-multiarch (i368) installed14:27
hakimshould i install multiarch-support i386 ,14:27
hakim?14:27
BluesKajok, then that's not the problem , hakim14:29
hakimok BluesKaj14:29
BluesKajno hakim what you have is sufficient14:29
BluesKajok hakim open a terminal , and run , sudo dpkg --configure -a14:32
hakimBluesKaj: it did nothing14:33
BluesKajok that's good14:33
phoenix_firebrdhello everyone14:33
xdunlapxhi phoenix_firebrd14:34
phoenix_firebrdxdunlapx: hi14:35
xdunlapxhow are you today?14:35
BluesKajhakim, in the terminal run , sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade14:35
phoenix_firebrdxdunlapx: fine, i hope the same from you14:35
xdunlapxphoenix_firebrd: yes I'm fine :)14:35
phoenix_firebrdxdunlapx: :)14:36
hakimBluesKaj: ok done :)14:38
BluesKajany dependency errors , hakim ?14:38
hakimBluesKaj: 0 update,  0 installed, 0 removed and 0 not updated (sorry my kubuntu is in french, so i'm translating)14:39
BluesKajhakim, , np that's fine14:40
hakimok14:40
BluesKajhakim, odd I can't find mysql workbench in the software sources14:44
hakimi took it on the mysql website : http://www.mysql.fr/downloads/mirror.php?id=403986#mirrors14:45
hakimthey say : linux 11.04, but it should work with 11.10 no ?14:45
hakimBluesKaj: i mean it's a minor version14:46
yofelhakim: kubuntu versions represent the date (2011.october), not any other usefuly version scheme.14:47
yofelso it can work, but no guarantee14:48
hakimyofel: oh ok i see14:48
yofel*useful14:48
hakimwell that's not convenient at all, i need it lol, and i don't want to go back on windows14:48
phoenix_firebrdyofel: do you know when the xbmc will be available in ppa?14:49
yofelphoenix_firebrd: what's xbmc?14:49
phoenix_firebrdyofel: a media center14:49
yofelobviously not, sry ^^14:50
phoenix_firebrdyofel: in this team-xbmc/ppa14:51
yofelno idea14:51
phoenix_firebrdyofel: is there any media center app that is in repos14:52
yofelthere was this thing called mythtv, but I never used it14:53
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, xbmc has a build that you might be intersted in , http://sshcs.com/xbmc/14:54
OerHeksmythTV boxee canola14:56
Wizardhi14:57
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: The site gives less details of the compilation14:57
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, I tried xbmc but it's too clunky for my taste ...too many menus tries too jard to look and work like Windows Media Center ..VLC works for me14:58
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: thats right, but thats the only app that can play a 1080hd movie properly14:59
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: vlc takes 40% of my cpu14:59
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: mplayer with vdpau plays video with audio sync problem15:00
BluesKajVLC plays 1080 on my tv15:01
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: it can but it consumes 40% of my cpu15:01
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: mplayer with vdpau and xbmc takes jut 5%15:01
phoenix_firebrd*just15:02
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, interesting , never really checked that15:02
BluesKaji won't install xbmc tho , still too clunky and unstable15:03
Wizardwhat are you talking about?15:03
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: if vlc can play 1080hd video with less cpu usage, then we wont need any other player :)15:04
Wizardhehe, I have strange problem with rekonq, it keeps showing "save as" dialog box when some flash file is embedded in website15:06
phoenix_firebrdOerHeks: i cant find a ppa for boxee, while canola is for mobile i guess15:06
phoenix_firebrdWizard: spamware?15:07
Wizardno, just ordinary flash movies probably15:07
phoenix_firebrdWizard: does that happen with youtube?15:07
Wizardbut rekonq wants to save them instead of ignoring them15:07
phoenix_firebrdWizard: try using the manual load of plugins option15:08
Wizardplugins?15:08
phoenix_firebrdWizard: then there is flash ad, it will be replaced by a button15:09
phoenix_firebrdWizard: what is your rekonq version?15:09
Wizardphoenix_firebrd: 0.7.9015:09
Wizardbut I'm updating kubuntu now, it may change :)15:10
phoenix_firebrdWizard: to 11.10?15:10
Wizardhmm, no, I installed 11.10 yesterday, but I'm doing all updates today15:10
phoenix_firebrdWizard: backports enabled?15:11
Wizardnope, also no ppas15:11
phoenix_firebrdWizard: then the current version is 0.7.9015:11
yofelthe updates ppa has 0.8.015:12
WizardI hate using ppas15:12
kamilnadeemHi15:12
Wizardtheir out of maintenance schedule (if ubuntu has something like this at all)15:12
Wizardthey are*15:13
Wizardhi kamilnadeem15:13
phoenix_firebrdyofel: is kde 4.7.2 pushed to normal channel?15:15
yofelyes, should be already in I think15:15
yofelrekonq 0.8 will follow, but that'll take at least a week15:16
phoenix_firebrdyofel: had some some updates that that said as version 4.7.2, but when i check the kde version it says kde 4.7.1, may it is not yet complete15:16
Wizardphoenix_firebrd: no, save .svf dialog doesn't pop up on youtube15:17
yofelphoenix_firebrd: not sure, maybe you need to login again, I'm on 4.7.2 from PPA15:18
phoenix_firebrdWizard: then it should be the site trying to download a malware into your system15:18
WizardI don't think so, this swf is just an advertisment :)15:19
Wizardmaybe it's embedded wrongly15:19
phoenix_firebrdyofel: i restarted half hour back, no problem, i will check it later15:19
Wizardbesides, I don't have flashplugin installed15:20
yofelk15:20
phoenix_firebrdyofel: are you busy15:20
yofelnot really15:21
phoenix_firebrdWizard: if you havent installed flashplugin, then how come the swf is displayed15:22
phoenix_firebrdyofel: can you come to the offtopic channel15:22
Wizardphoenix_firebrd: did you read my messages? I told "save as" window pops up15:23
avihay__I just lost 4GB, after upgreading. I blame nepomuk!15:24
phoenix_firebrdWizard: so if flashplugin is not installed, you are not able to use youtube right?15:25
CoJaBoHow do I stop the omniirc upgrade prompt from showing up every five minutes? egads, this is worse than Windows Update, wtf?15:26
kamilnadeemI accidentally deleted the bottom pannel , but I got that back,. The prob is the size of the kick off launcher15:26
kamilnadeemHi Wizard15:26
Wizardphoenix_firebrd: you asekd me if it pops up on youtube so I checked and informed you15:26
kamilnadeemhi phoenix_firebrd15:26
kamilnadeemhow to resize kick off?15:26
LinkmasterDaskreech: get in offtopic, I'm talking of our crazy adventures15:27
Wizardok, enough about rekonq, it appears on few websites only, probably their fault..15:28
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Wizardsecond question is: who should I contact to ask/complain about translations?15:28
Wizardit's getting really serious, relese from release translations to my language are worse and worse15:29
kamilnadeemis there a way to resize the kick off launcher, it is now opening in more than 1/4th of my screen?15:29
kamilnadeemGot It15:30
phoenix_firebrdkamilnadeem: hi15:30
Wizardshould I report every spotted language mistake in launchpad?15:30
PiciWizard: Theres https://translations.launchpad.net/ubuntu/ and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations15:31
PiciWizard: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Translations/Issues may be of help specifically.15:31
kamilnadeemphoenix_firebrd that day when we tried to fix that auto mute on startup prob , actually it didnot get fixed that time.15:31
Wizardthanks Pici15:31
kamilnadeemBut I returned and some other person helped fix it finally15:32
phoenix_firebrdkamilnadeem: is it still there?15:32
kamilnadeemNo15:32
phoenix_firebrdkamilnadeem: how did you fix it?15:32
kamilnadeemwait telling?15:32
phoenix_firebrdkamilnadeem: ok15:32
kamilnadeemphoenix_firebrd Here http://pastebin.com/sdm2xvTg15:34
WizardPici: this doesn't state how translations are merged with upstream15:36
phoenix_firebrdkamilnadeem: it seems you didn't have permission to modify the asound.state15:38
PiciWizard: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+faq/60815:38
kamilnadeemyes but the Bluekaj guy said its OK15:39
kamilnadeemphoenix_firebrd  is there something wrong with It?15:40
phoenix_firebrdkamilnadeem: no, its a correct solution15:40
kamilnadeemGood15:40
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: what does this 'alsactl store' actually do?15:41
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, it stores your last settings in alsamixer when you run the command ..it doesn't always stick tho , after upgrades and such15:43
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: no, what happens internally?15:43
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, creates a small file on the /home dir and the setting is suppose hold in alsa.conf15:46
BluesKajsupposed to hold15:47
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phoenix_firebrdbagsta: he he15:51
phoenix_firebrdbagsta: oops , sorry15:51
kamilnadeemDoes any one here uses Ubuntu One on Kubuntu and If yes how does it works?15:54
kamilnadeemI mean in terms of not crashing(I use Ubuntu one so I do know how it works ;) )15:55
phoenix_firebrdkamilnadeem: for me ubuntuone doesnt start in kubuntu-desktop15:57
kamilnadeemyeah I have been hearing that it is not in pristine working condition as on Ubuntu , lets hope 12.04 sorts this15:58
phoenix_firebrdkamilnadeem: harald was working on a kde version, but i dont know what happened to it16:01
kamilnadeemhmmm. DId you guys checked out the latets distrowatch weekely16:01
kamilnadeemKubuntu scores over ubuntu :)16:01
phoenix_firebrdkamilnadeem: oh really?16:02
kamilnadeemyes go check it out16:02
kamilnadeemthe reason is the same why I maid Kubuntu my main distro16:02
kamilnadeemmade*16:03
kamilnadeemoverall polish and it works :)16:03
jmichaelxnot sure i have ever heard kubuntu being acclaimed for high polish before...16:08
kamilnadeemjmichaelx Kubuntu is right now really one of the good kde distro out there16:12
* BluesKaj tries to get VLC to use more GPU on nvidia graphics card with vdpau... not much info on the subject16:12
kamilnadeemI have tried PClinuxos, Mandriva , Chakra but this is the one that made most sense to me16:12
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: i have all the info16:13
Belial`kubuntu seems pretty kde stock to me.16:13
Belial`which is fine.16:13
jmichaelxBluesKaj: i have not done extensive testing, but on my PC at work, vdpau seems to be working better with vlc than with mplayer. performance with mplayer has really regressed (at least it appears so on that machine)16:14
phoenix_firebrdWhen we are talking about stability we should opt for LTS release16:14
jmichaelxyea, i have been using kubuntu as my main OS for going on 6 years. obviously, i am still using it, but it isn't because i have ever thought it to be polished16:15
kamilnadeembrb16:16
* jmichaelx did flee to xfce during the kde4.0-4.2 era16:17
BluesKajmplayer no longer works well on this setup ,  jmichaelx, no fullscreen , poor audio config etc ..it'sok for desktop monitors , but not for a media server pc16:17
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: have you installed libvdpau?16:18
jmichaelxyea... i have not tested the two machines yet that i use the most for multimedia... if they turn out to be this bad, i either switching back to natty, or ditching k/ubuntu16:19
phoenix_firebrdjmichaelx: that was a starting of plasma16:19
* Daskreech was running KDE 4.0 alpha 2 as his "desktop"16:19
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, yes libvdpau116:19
* jmichaelx shreeks..........16:19
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: what does this 'mplayer -vo vdpau <file>' tell you16:20
jmichaelxwith each batch of updates, i keep hoping for these task manager bugs to go away....16:23
phoenix_firebrdjmichaelx: i think some one posted a working patch16:23
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, what doy yowant to know , there's alot of info16:23
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: does it say it is successfully using the vdpau as output?16:24
phoenix_firebrdjmichaelx: they say that the actual bug is not in the taskmanager widget16:25
BluesKajyup ,it plays at a smaller size than my screen , but without audio16:25
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, libavformat file format detected16:25
jmichaelxphoenix_firebrd: so i understand... X is being blamed (which i do not doubt)16:26
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: have you tried smplayer?16:26
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, yeah , the audio doesn't pas the digital signal that I need here16:27
mr-rich179 updates? are you friggen kidding me?16:28
BluesKajany versions of mpalyer are the same, they play the video fine , but no audio and I don't feel like trying to buld a string of commands just so i can play movies from the cli , seems rather silly to me.16:28
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: thats why we have smplayer16:29
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: try playing with the audio settings16:29
yofelmr-rich: 4.7.2 in oneiric-updates16:29
BluesKajsmplayer doesn't work for my setup16:29
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, it can't fill my screen16:30
BluesKajand i don't have a huge tv , it's only a 42" panasonic16:30
jmichaelxBluesKaj: do you use xbmc? just wondering how it is working for you16:31
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: vlc works fine?16:31
BluesKajjmichaelx, I tried xbmc , too many menus too clunky ,it played ok but not my kind of player16:32
BluesKajvlc works fine phoenix_firebrd , but likr you say it eats cpu16:33
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BluesKajthat's why I'm researching the GPU in the mix approach , apparently there are settings to force vlc to use the GPU more if it's capable16:34
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: we cant do anything about vlc, its because of how it renders16:34
jmichaelxphoenix_firebrd: on my PC at work, mplayer cannot play much of anything well since upgrading to oneiric. high definition video will almost lock the machine up... 2.4GHz amd dual-core with 4GB RAM... but vlc can play HD, though it struggles16:34
BluesKajvdpau16:35
BluesKajjmichaelx, that's your graphics card struggling to keep up16:35
phoenix_firebrdjmichaelx: what is the graphics card you are using?16:36
jmichaelxBluesKaj: well, GPU and CPU both16:36
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: what is the gpu?16:36
jmichaelxphoenix_firebrd: it is an nvidia grforce 21016:37
BluesKajnvidia geforce 8400gs16:37
jmichaelxgeforce*16:37
phoenix_firebrdn 11.10 mplayer works well for me, i am using geforce 9400gt, mplayer version =SVN-r33713-4.6.116:38
BluesKajthe vdpau driver (it;s actaully a plugin) is supposed to direct the player to use the gpu on the graphics card if it's capable and share the load with the cpu on the mobo16:39
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: previously it was working?16:39
BluesKajphoenix_firebrd, ??16:40
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: vlc does some work before sending it to the gpu , so thats the reason for the high cpu usage16:40
BluesKajyeah , I saw that in a blog about vlc and vdpau16:41
phoenix_firebrdBluesKaj: did the hd videos play fine in any of the previous versions of kubuntu?16:41
shane2peruok, I think I found out why I quit using Kopete, anyone know how to get Kopete to work with Spanish characters?  áíáóú16:41
phoenix_firebrdgoing for dinner, bbl16:42
artur_guys who can recommend some kick-ass KDE apps?16:43
dalstonartur_: dolphin16:44
artur_been on KDE for 2 weeks after dumping Unity/Gnome-Shell, and llloving it!!!!16:44
dalstonartur_: kontact was awesome, and will be awesome again when akonadi stops hogging memory16:44
artur_OK, thanks for Dolphin, but what I meant, some obscure (no-so-obvious) apps16:44
dalstonartur_:  yakuake16:45
dalstonartur_: drop-down terminal from the top of the screen when a shortcut key is hit16:45
artur_found converseen, added ppa, but some strange reason can't find it via aptitude search ??? what gives?116:45
artur_Yakuake absolutely AWESOME!16:46
artur_so inobtrusive yet efficient - love it16:46
artur_Kontact or Thunderbird?16:47
artur_I've always kind of liked Thunderbird, but Kontact seems like a more comprehensive/KDE-integrated app. UI-wise, a bit of a departure from tried-and-trusted Thunderbird16:47
jmichaelxi wonder how usable kmail/kontact even are right now in oneiric...16:48
yofelthe most broken thing is the migrator. Once you've got the setup done somehow it's fairly usable16:49
Daskreechartur_: umm. what do you want the apps to do?16:50
jmichaelxgood to hear, although i won't be using it16:50
Daskreechartur_: Marble!16:50
jmichaelxi have been thinking about migrating to kmail, but will probably wait until the nepomuk issues are ironed out16:50
BluesKajvideos play fine on vlc , phoenix_firebrd , even pn smplayer noe except smplayer doesn't pass the Dolby Digital/spdif signal in 5.1 . only 2 channel pcm ...VLC does everything I want but with high CPU usage , which i can put up with16:50
BluesKajnoe=now16:51
BluesKajok...BBL ..stuff to do16:51
Daskreechjmichaelx: I think you mean akonadi16:52
yofelDaskreech: both16:52
Daskreechyofel: what's the nepomuk issues?16:52
artur_Daskreech: nothing, I'm just enjoying my time with KDE! Trying different apps, just to see what will awe me :)16:52
yofelDaskreech: not pure nepomuk, but akonadi's nepomuk integration is one of the more buggier parts16:53
artur_Marble... hmm sounds familiar. Can almost bet you I've tried it before, but will see again..16:53
artur_thanks!16:53
yofelartur_: if you don't mind pulling in some things you won't need, feel free to pull kde-full. Which will install the kde stuff that isn't shipped by default in kubuntu.16:54
artur_yofel: Oh, thanks. I installed a KDE DVD (3.4 Gb worth of stuff) from a USB stick but did not bother to find out how to add a USB to repositories16:55
artur_Which, btw, how can I add a USB to sources?16:55
Peace-artur_: mm i guess add media?16:57
artur_Peace: sorry, meaning...?17:00
artur_media = meaning.. what?17:00
artur_Peace: do you mean medibuntu?17:00
kamilnadeemHow to get better font rendering in browsers(Firefox/Chromium) on Kubunt?17:01
kamilnadeemkubuntu*17:01
Peace-kamilnadeem: systemsettings application apparance17:02
Peace-kamilnadeem: on fonts you can customizing the antiasing17:02
yofelartur_: edit your software sources, other software -> add cdrom17:02
yofelI think17:02
Peace-yofel: mm that doens't work17:03
Peace-fior the usb stick17:03
yofelhm17:03
yofelthen he'll need to add a file:// URL to apt that points to the packages17:03
Peace-http://askubuntu.com/questions/3576/how-to-make-usb-drive-as-local-repository17:03
Peace-artur_:17:04
kamilnadeemPeace: It was set to system settings , I senabled it still no progress ?17:05
kamilnadeemWhat settings are on your system?17:05
Peace-first you need to understan what kind of monitor yoi have17:06
Peace-not every monitor has the same settings17:06
Peace-kamilnadeem: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/24/plasma-desktope11846.jpg17:06
kamilnadeemI have a 15"CRT .17:06
Peace-for example that is mine on lcd monitor17:07
PasNoxHi17:07
PasNoxi'm looking for kcmsambaconf17:07
PasNoxbut it seem it diseappear from kubuntu / kde ?17:07
PasNoxi'm running kubuntu oneiric 64bits editions.17:07
PasNoxany hint ?17:07
Peace-PasNox: on the new kde there is not it anymore17:07
DaskreechPeace-:  I like the askubuntu.com/questions url :)17:08
DaskreechIt's pretty human17:08
artur_Peace: thanks a lot for the link, and sorry for being a lazy pig :)17:08
PasNoxi'm trying to make samba share working between my mac and my linux box, but i can't see the mac, and the mac see the linux box but it reject guess user and even when i try to use my linux credentials.17:08
PasNoxany hint please?17:08
Peace-artur_: i will not paste what you need to read on that article17:08
Peace-PasNox:  dolphin17:09
PasNoxand i correctly ( i think ) shared the folder from dolphin ( the mac see it, but i can't enter in )17:09
PasNoxPeace-: dolphin does not show the mac :/17:09
PasNoxand the mac is rejected from linux :/17:09
Peace-PasNox: are you in the same workgroup?17:10
KingSphinxAnyone know how to get the Oxygen style working with Skype? I've tried setting it as "Desktop settings", but it still looks like Plastik from KDE3.17:10
PasNoxPeace-: i think yes, i did not change anythin so i think it use the generic 'workgroup' group17:10
Peace-PasNox: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2009/05/05/kubuntu-904-windows-share-with-samba/17:10
kamilnadeemPeace tried all the settings it doesn't seem to be working , may you please tell me your chromium/chrome fonts settings17:10
Peace-kamilnadeem: roboto17:11
PasNoxPeace-: even from dolphin when i try to browse the shared folder of my own box, it reject me ( and ask for a password / login ) event if i checked the accept guess users17:11
Peace-kamilnadeem:  google roboto fonts ubuntu17:11
PasNoxPeace-: i will read it, but i doubt it will help :)17:11
Peace-PasNox: right click on the folder17:12
PasNoxmaybe a simple computer restart should help xD17:12
PasNoxPeace-: from sambo protocol in dolphin or the local folder ?17:12
PasNoxsamba*17:12
Peace-PasNox: the folder you want share17:12
PasNoxk17:12
PasNoxand ?17:12
Peace-you can see this ? wait i am uploading17:13
Peace-PasNox: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/24/plasma-desktopB11846.jpg17:13
PasNoxyes i can17:13
kamilnadeemPeace medium or small ?17:13
PasNoxand i already set full control for me and everybody17:13
PasNoxrestarted smb service17:13
PasNoxetc17:13
PasNoxit does not help.17:13
Peace-kamilnadeem: i use full fonts 1117:13
FloodBotK1PasNox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:13
PasNoxFloodBotK1: flood me ? :/17:14
Peace-PasNox: i guess yu are not in the same workgroup17:14
PasNoxPeace-: maybe something in the folder right itself should be check but it seem ok for me17:14
PasNoxaccording to dolphin, the linux box is in workgroup17:14
PasNoxand mac see me17:15
Peace-PasNox: get a new folder17:15
Peace-PasNox: right click17:15
Peace-share ...17:15
Peace-full controll17:15
Peace-open dolphin and check if you can see your folder with linux17:15
PasNoxi can, but once i try to enter in it, it request credentials :/17:16
Peace-mmm17:16
Peace-there is something of worg17:16
Peace-i can go into without it...17:16
PasNoxoh17:16
PasNoxi changed17:16
kamilnadeemPeace It is not working , well thanks for helping17:17
PasNoxchecked guess allowed17:17
Peace-sudo samba restart17:17
PasNoxand set full control for me and everybody17:17
kamilnadeemWill be taking your leave Now17:17
PasNoxand now i can enter the new folder :/17:17
PasNoxbut not the one i want to share xD17:17
Peace-kamilnadeem: maybe you need to login and logout17:17
Peace-i am not sure about that kamilnadeem17:17
kamilnadeemWill try17:17
* Peace- doens't understand well the pixel problem btw17:17
kamilnadeemPeace Be WIth You ALL17:17
Peace-PasNox: check you permission then...17:18
PasNoxok now from linux it's ok17:18
PasNoxi was changing the folder group to sambashare but it seem i should let my own group17:18
PasNoxxD17:18
PasNoxthank u17:19
PasNoxlet try from mac now17:19
phoenix_firebrdi am back17:19
salohey all, i recently built a ssd into my laptop and now my pc freezes ocassionally, does sb know where this could come from?17:20
KingSphinxDoes anyone know how to get Skype to cooperate with the default desktop theme?17:20
Peace-salo: go in the menu17:20
Peace-salo: search for log17:20
Peace-salo: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/24/plasma-desktopK11846.jpg17:21
saloPeace-: yep opened it17:21
Peace-salo: search for something about your problem17:21
PasNoxPeace-: works fine now :) thank u - stupid sambashare group that make me erroneous :)17:22
* PasNox busy on the mac17:22
Peace-i was down17:24
Peace-so i didn't read17:25
salo_Peace-: sorry just happened again17:25
salo_Peace-: it froze..17:25
Peace-salo_: now ... open the log ....17:25
Peace-salo_: the menu... search for log...17:26
salo_Peace-: yeah did it17:26
Peace-and look...17:26
salo_Peace-: kernel should say something shouldn`t it?17:26
Peace-yes17:27
Peace-salo_: http://blip.tv/PeaceForlinux/postare-uno-screenshot-velocemente-con-kde4-489411917:27
Peace-salo_: paste your screen about the log17:27
salo_Peace-: do you want the log itsself or a screenshot of it?17:30
Peace-the screenshot or the log it's not a problem17:31
shane2peruanyone know what the java runtime package is called?17:31
Peace-one of them17:31
Peace-!java17:31
ubottuTo install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://goo.gl/zwOip -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.17:31
shane2peruthanks Peace-17:31
shane2peruI forgot about the bot17:31
shane2peruhmm, doesn't seem to be the case anymore17:32
shane2peruok, oh well, bbl17:32
simion314in 11.190 i installed sun java from a ppa17:32
salo_Peace-: ok just a minute, that widget does not work17:32
The_JagHi can someone point me to the list of eclipse repositories? I installed eclipse from muon but the repo list is empty17:34
yofelopenjdk-6 works just fine here on 11.1017:34
Peace-salo_: ?17:38
salo_Peace-: yeah this log seems to be too big for this pastebins..17:38
salo_Peace-:  here finally: http://paste.kde.org/137245/17:39
simion314yofel: InteliJ requiers Sun JRE to run properly17:40
yofelah, well, sun-java6 is in !partner17:40
genii-aroundyofel: Not anymore, apparently17:41
yofeloh, true17:42
yofelguess they removed it thanks to oracle changing the license17:42
simion314just google and you find how to install jre6 from sun or even java7 from oracle17:42
simion314i do not remember esxactly how i install it but i used google17:43
yofelI still have the 6u26 package in one of my PPA's, and what I need works fine with openjdk17:43
Peace-salo_: you said it's a ssd ? that has caused your prolbem?17:43
Peace-that means the solid state disk ?17:43
salo_Peace-: yes17:43
salo_Peace-: i think so at leasz17:44
salo_Peace-: i installed the ssd an a fresh version of kubuntu17:44
salo_Peace-: before that it did not freeze17:44
Peace-i lag too much17:48
Peace-i am sorry but i can't read so much17:48
Peace--salo_: have you read my question ?17:49
salo_Peace--: which one?17:49
Peace--salo_: i mean ssd you mean solid state disk ?17:50
salo_Peace--: yes17:50
Peace--salo_: pci ?17:51
salo_salo_: sata3 on a sata2 bus17:51
Peace--xD konversation keeps to log me out17:51
Peace--so i switced to webirc17:51
Peace--switched17:51
salo_;)17:51
Peace--salo_: can you list it on lspci ?17:52
salo_Peace--: i`ll try mom17:52
Peace--salo_: i mean you need some stirng to identify in the log something related  to your disk17:52
Peace--string17:52
salo_Peace--: http://paste.kde.org/137257/17:54
Peace-LOl17:54
salo_Peace--: thats what lspci says17:54
shane2peruok, back, and wondering about java17:54
shane2perusimion314: you mentioned a ppa??17:54
salo_Peace--: cannot find sth related to the disk17:54
Peace--salo_: Do you know the who has made that stuff?17:55
Peace---the17:55
Peace-Peace--: _P17:55
Peace--xD17:55
Peace-omg this konvesation has a lots' of lag...17:56
shane2peruis openjdk the same as sun java?17:56
shane2peruI'm assuming it is the open version of java17:56
genii-aroundSSD often freeze up as a purely hardware issue as well.17:56
avihay__PULSE AUDIO!!! grrrrrrrrrr17:57
salo_Peace--: Corsair Force3 240GB SSD  that`s the one i ordered17:57
genii-aroundsalo_: Perhaps check if your drive is one of the defective ones ... http://forum.corsair.com/v3/showthread.php?t=9568817:59
Peace--salo_: mmm i have googled17:59
simion314shane2peru: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-jre-on-ubuntu-11-10-oneiric.html  there is mentioned the ppa17:59
salo_genii-around: phew to find the serial i have to open the laptop i think ;/18:00
salo_genii-around: or is there a way to read it out of the system18:00
Peace--salo_: i see a problem of freeze on that stuff18:00
Peace--salo_: so you are not alone18:00
shane2perusimion314: thanks!  I found it in this link:  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3118986.msg276635#msg27663518:01
salo_Peace--: but shouldnt the system stay responsive? I mean ssd has nothing to do with the os where the os lies or am i wrong?18:01
shane2peruI'm going to try the openjdk to see if that works for me.18:01
genii-aroundsalo_: Probably only on the sticker and not anywhere in it's firmware, unfortunately18:02
salo_genii-around: damn, than i need tools..18:02
shane2peru!es18:03
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.18:03
salo_genii-around: but your link states that: NOTE: CSSD-F60GB3-BK, CSSD-F240GB3-BK, and Force GT are NOT affected by this issue18:03
salo_genii-around: and i do have a 240gb version18:04
Peace--i have read that sb has upgraded the firmware18:04
Peace--but dunno18:04
Peace--it's a strange problem  i am not used to resolve taht kind of problem18:04
salo_Peace--: i find it strange that the kernel seems to say nothing about it18:05
genii-aroundsalo_: Ah, missed that, just caught the Corsair part ... well, that at least is good then.18:06
genii-aroundsalo_: When you put the ssd in, did you just copy over your old stuff onto it or make a clean install to it?18:06
salo_genii-around: i did make a clean install18:06
salo_genii-around: here is uname -a output: NOTE: CSSD-F60GB3-BK, CSSD-F240GB3-BK, and Force GT are NOT affected by this issue18:07
salo_genii-around: here is uname -a output: Linux salo-mbpro 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux18:07
Peace--i guess it's a problem of ssd \ firmware18:07
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genii-aroundPeace--: There are some issues with JMicron controllers, other issues when drives are mostly full and have to keep shuffling blocks around all the time, also if you use some disk otimisation tools it can actually slow SSD down and not speed them u18:09
salo_genii-around: but that seems not to be the case, only 5gb are used rigth now :(18:10
Peace--who is the one that has 240 of porns ?18:10
Peace--xD18:10
Peace--ok i am joking sorry for that18:10
salo_:D18:10
Peace--:D18:11
artur_Hi all again18:11
artur_Anybody knows if Amarok has the "Play random" option?18:11
* Peace-- actually that joke was for genii-around 18:11
salo_genii-around: Peace-- actually it could be that that is not an issue coming from the ssd but with some other parts of this strange macbook pro..18:12
* genii-around sips his coffee and glares at Peace--18:12
Peace--salo_: i have no ideas18:14
salo_Peace--: ok.. thanks for your help anyway18:15
genii-aroundsalo_: If you could please pastebin results of: sudo lshw -businfo18:15
salo_genii-around: http://paste.kde.org/137275/18:17
Peace--salo_: btw it seems you paste really fast now :D18:18
salo_Peace--: yeah i found i suitable pastebin :D18:18
shane2peru!kde18:23
ubottuKDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information.18:23
Peace--salo_: http://forum.corsair.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96401&page=218:23
Peace--salo_: can you set something on the bios?18:23
salo_Peace--: i would like to do some settins in the bios18:24
salo_Peace--: but i cannot go there somehow..18:24
Peace--salo_: try to read that page if i didn't read bad it seems someone has fixed18:24
salo_Peace--: ok mom18:25
Peace--LOL18:25
Peace--no problem my kid18:25
Peace--:D18:25
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salo_Peace--: thats mac stuff... aahhh i like the hardware but not the restrictveness ;)18:26
Peace--salo_: i have to go :) i am italian so now it's time to exit18:27
Peace--have luck !18:27
salo_Peace--: ok have fun, thanks!18:28
genii-aroundsalo_: Apologies on lag, work required me. Your hardware seems OK, although i have before seen issues with that SATA controller (  MCP79 )18:33
genii-aroundsalo_: Does: dmesg | tail     show anything about the drive right after a freeze?18:35
salo_genii-around: no nothing obvious at least18:37
salo_genii-around: i did paste the syslog before18:37
salo_genii-around: have you seen it?18:38
genii-aroundsalo_: I don't the link to it in my scrollback18:39
salo_genii-around:  http://paste.kde.org/137245/18:40
genii-aroundsalo_: It looks like trying to use NCQ, perhaps disabling this with libata.force=noncq as boot option might help18:46
jbwiv_guys, every time I try to use Muon to update packages on 11.10, I get "This operation cannot continue since proper authorization was not provided". However, I'm never prompted to provide authorization. How can I fix this?18:49
salogenii-around: thanks, i'll try that18:49
salogenii-around: have to add it in the kernel command line in grub do i?18:50
yofeljbwiv_: is the polkit-kde-1 package installed?18:51
genii-aroundsalo: For one-time just hit e to edit grub boot line and put it just after: splash    ... if it works not to freeze, then add line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="libata.force=noncq"  to /etc/default/grub  and then sudo update-grub18:52
jbwiv_yofel, no, it doesn't appear to be18:52
jbwiv_yofel, I installed kubuntu by first installing ubuntu and then apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. I wonder if this was missed for some reason?18:53
yofelyeah, known issue :/18:53
yofeljbwiv_: sudo apt-get install polkit-kde-118:53
genii-aroundsalo: ( this way it will get re-added as an option every time upgrades rebuild grub )18:53
yofelit'll work once you log out once18:53
jbwiv_yofel, k. I did install it, but I still don't get prompted. should this require a logout/loging18:53
jbwiv_ah, you beat me to it, ok thanks! ;)18:53
yofeljbwiv_: or18:54
yofelmanually run: /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/polkit-kde-authentication-agent-118:54
salogenii-around: ok i`m going to reboot and then wait :)18:54
meebeyhttp://bit.ly/vznz3C18:54
jbwiv_yofel, that did the trick. Thanks!18:55
genii-aroundsalo: If this works to eliminate your freezes, please update page: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1662538&page=2 to show that it worked in your situation18:59
salogenii-around: ok i`ll do that19:00
genii-aroundsalo: Thanks :)19:02
VJTachyonis there a graphical utility for configuring ethernet interface routing?19:11
VJTachyoni have two ethernet interfaces and my internet is through eth1, currently the system can't find the internet19:11
VJTachyonso i assuming the routing is bad19:11
SquidyI'm sorry.. I lost the connection...19:24
SquidyI'm sorry.. I lost the connection...19:24
SquidySo... I'm using kubuntu 11.10... My sound is working well.. however when I put the headphone.. the speaker volume goes to 0% automatically.. then I get no sound in both headphone and speaker19:24
Squidymay you help me/19:25
Squidy?19:25
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MeanderingCodeAnyone having issues w/ Eclipse (or maybe other Java progs?) where some sections of dialogs are empty??19:32
BluesKajSquidy, if you have pulseaudio installed then install pavucontrol . it will control your headphones and speaker outputs19:43
Steve132I cannot seem to get KMail to send any emails.19:45
Steve132Emails in my outbox just sit there19:46
Steve132and checking mail doesn't send them19:46
Steve132even manually clicking 'send queued messages' doesn't send them19:46
Steve132Some googling seems to imply that I need to enable the akonadi component "mail dispatch agent"19:46
Steve132but I cannot.  It is greyed out19:46
DaskreechSteve132: how did you set it up?19:47
Daskreechwhen you made an account you set up the smtp outgoing server?19:48
Steve132Yes19:48
SquidyBluesKaj: I've installed pvaucontrol.. but the problem still happens.. When I plug the headphone the port change to 'Analog Headphone' and the sound stops in both headphone and speakers19:51
Squidyweird19:51
blip-hi all, I upgraded from 11.04 to the latest Kubuntu and I'm having big trouble with wifi on my laptop.19:53
blip-It can't connect to my home network and this little system tray icon program is horrible19:53
MeanderingCodeDoes anyone have problems w/ empty panes in windows (not empty, i can click things, but nothing is drawn)?19:56
MeanderingCodeThis is Eclipse, which is Java19:56
BluesKajSteve132, look at comment 10 , https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25935519:56
ubottuKDE bug 259355 in general "kmail terminates during startup with "Failed to fetch the resource collection "" [Major,New]19:56
Steve132I don't recieve this error19:57
Steve132tough19:58
BluesKajok, sorry , I thought it was relavent19:58
BluesKajSteve132, are yo on 11.10 ?19:59
Steve132yes19:59
BluesKajSquidy, ok ,try it without pulseaudio and pavucobtrol ,,some souncards work better with alsa without pulseaudio in the middle20:01
BluesKajSteve132, perhaps you don't get that error but your problem may be related20:02
Steve132Ok, so, what do I do?20:03
MeanderingCodeIs no one in here an Eclipse user?  Could someone do me a favor and install it, run it (let it create the "workspace" folder and just delete it later), and open Window > Preferences, then tell me if the left pane is populated with the index of preference sections or is just empty?20:04
BluesKajlook the URL I posted , there may be links there or other comments that may help you, Steve13220:05
Steve132Well, I appreciate the help, but I'd rather not futz with my configuratino unless there is some reason to believe the problems are related20:05
BluesKajMeanderingCode, have you tried the ##java chat ?20:08
MeanderingCodeBluesKaj: double hash? (just checking)  Not linux dedicated, i assume...headed there now20:08
BluesKajyes, MeanderingCode . I already checked, ##20:09
MeanderingCodethanks20:09
Steve132So I did that, and it had no effect20:15
Steve132because that was not the source of my errror20:15
oravaHi, does someone got banshee working in 11.10?20:38
shane2peruwhat is the proper way to get someones attention in an extremely slow room?  just start naming random people?  I'm not talking about this room.20:46
macothatd usually be considered rude unless you know them. generally you just wait20:47
macotheres no guarantee theyre even at the computer20:47
macoor awake for that matter (timezones and all)20:47
BadDesignshane2peru: asking question the right way20:47
BadDesign-*s20:47
BadDesignorava: What problem do you encounter?20:47
shane2peruBadDesign: well, I asked the question, and left it set for about 3 hours, and no one has responded, no one has even chatted in the room20:48
BadDesignshane2peru: probably in this room may people are afk or in different time zones that you (us)20:48
BadDesign*many20:49
shane2peruright, but I"m talking about a different room, well, never mind, I started ramdomly naming people.20:49
BadDesignorava: Run Banshee from Konsole and see what is the ouput, maybe that will tell you something about what is wrong20:49
oravaBadDesign: can't remember, I'm using 11.04 right now. next time I boot to 11.10 I will let you know20:49
BadDesignI need some rest, ffs, I miss letters from words :(20:50
RandomRogerHello, is there a way to remove the activity button on the desktop ?21:16
dalstonRandomRoger: if it's a widget.. try right-clicking21:17
dalstonRandomRoger: you're typing about the button with the three dots, right?  Red, Blue, Green?21:17
RandomRogerNo21:18
RandomRogerThe button is in the top right corner and says "New Activity"21:18
dalstonRandomRoger: so, you're currently on the activity labeled "New Activity"21:19
dalstonRandomRoger: are you trying to get rid of the "cashew" looking icon altogether?21:20
RandomRogerYeah21:20
RandomRogerSeems I find a solution, move it until its hidden by the panel :)21:21
dalstonRandomRoger: try this.. http://hanschen.org/2008/10/23/plasma-how-to-remove-the-cashew/21:21
RandomRogerThanks, will take a look.21:22
RandomRogerbrb21:27
drbobbhello, anyone have a hint on how to get rid of the stupid gnome gadgets from my systray?21:39
drbobbI logged into gnome desktop a couple of times before I decided it sucks, and now I can't find a way to get rid of them21:40
DarthFrog !purekde | drbobb21:49
ubottudrbobb: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE »21:49
dalstondrbobb: systray apps come from several places.. check "Startup and Shutdown" in "systemsettings".. then check  ~/.kde/Autostart and  ~/.config/autostart and /etc/xdg/autostart21:50
sillytonesis it possible to make key repeat short for arrow keys and longer for other keys?21:50
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Uninstallis anybody aware that muon software center21:57
Uninstallinstalls libc6-xen instead of skype?21:58
Sentynelhi folks. been having issues related to a) random system freezes and b) hangs on shutdown since upgrading to 11.10. I believe it may be related to the wifi drivers, due to the following: the system froze again. after reboot, the wireless network wouldn't connect (the "connecting" bar got halfway across, stopped, and then it disconnected after a bit). I shut the system down and noticed it shut down properly, without hanging. I've now switched to22:02
Sentynela different antenna and it's connected to the network again22:02
Sentynelany suggestions for obtaining more information? I've had reliability problems with this antenna before - connection drops frequently - so I'd rather not keep using it22:04
drbobbDarthFrog: I don't really want to wipe out gnome packages just yet, I might yet have some use for them22:07
Uninstalldrbobb:22:07
Uninstallare you a kubuntu guy?22:07
drbobbyes22:07
Uninstalldrbobb: are you aware that muon software center installs random packages?22:07
drbobbI did use gnome for a while, when kde4 was too buggy for daily use22:08
drbobbUninstall: no I'm not, how is that?22:08
UninstallI've got the same problem on two PCs: it suggest me to install always libc6-xen22:08
Uninstallwhen I search for packages on the package manager22:08
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Uninstallinstead the software center has installed libc6-xen instead of skype22:09
drbobbUninstall: although my original question was not about un/installing packages, but getting rid of autostarts22:09
sillytonesmaybe make arrows and backspace repeat fast, but letters repeat slow22:09
drbobbI usually install via apt-get anyway22:09
Uninstalldrbobb: sorry, I tought you've been here for support22:09
UninstallJontheEchidna: ping22:10
drbobbUninstall: you just misunderstood my question, that's all22:10
drbobbI want to stop gnome programs from autostarting, not remove the packages22:11
drbobband btw my .config/autostart is empty22:12
JontheEchidnaUninstall: I've fixed the Skype issue for the next version that should be out in the next few days. Skype (and other apps that are 32-bit only) should be the only ones affected.22:12
drbobband my .kde/Autostart has only what I put there myself22:13
UninstallJontheEchidna: good22:13
UninstallJontheEchidna: anyway if you want to improve the software center22:13
Belial`when kde 4.8 becomes available, will it eventually push to kubuntu's 11.10 repos over time?22:13
Uninstallyou should allow users to see what is going to be installed22:14
Belial`or no, because it's a major release?22:14
yofelBelial`: in the backports ppa as usual22:14
UninstallI mean when I click install I can't get any feedback about what my system is doing22:14
Belial`yofel: right, but would they do it in the official stable repos?22:14
yofelno22:14
Belial`ok22:14
Belial`so just minor releases get pushed to the stable repos, right?22:15
Belial`ie 4.7.222:15
gomiboyUninstall: there is a "preview changes" for that22:15
Uninstallgomiboy: in software center?22:15
drbobbUninstall: I got u wrong, thought you were asking whether I was a kubuntu user, not a kubuntu dev22:15
Belial`basically, 11.10 will most likely have 4.7.5 in its official repos before its eol?22:16
Uninstalldrbobb: exactly22:16
yofelBelial`: exactly, 4.7.5 will be the last update22:16
drbobbsorry22:16
Belial`gotcha22:16
sillytoneswhen I try to type capital z, it shows the desktop. why>?22:27
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amichairwhat's the latest update (from today?) to kde from the ppa? it seems to still be 4.7.2, but the whole kde is being updated... anyone know what this is?22:49
Belial`amichair: they  pushed 4.7.2 to the stable repo today.22:50
amichairah22:50
amichairso it's the exact same packages as before?22:51
Belial`i believe so. i think they're being upgraded because they're patched.22:51
amichairBelial`: patched?22:51
Belial`maybe not patched, but i believe the apps from the kubuntu-ppa aren't followed with "ubuntu1", "ubuntu2" etc at the end of them.22:52
amichairah ok, so just naming change22:53
Belial`basically.22:53
Belial`i don't notice a difference in anything.22:53
amichairBelial`: cool, thanks22:53
Belial`np22:53
James147amichair: its likly a small change in the packageing... the number at the end of ubuntu gets bumped when the packages get rebuilt, normally to fix somethong22:54
amichairJames147: thanks :-)22:54
amichairdoes anyone know if exfat now automounts in oneiric? (with fuse-exfat installs)22:55
search-no-findI was wondering if it's possible to download old versionof Kubuntu? Namely version 11.0423:03
search-no-findI searched but ended up either on404 pages or on Ubuntu old releases...23:03
amichairsearch-no-find: maybe try from here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/23:06
search-no-findamichair: ah,thanks a lot :)23:06
amichairsearch-no-find: have fun :-)23:06
search-no-findI will, thanks :)23:07
search-no-findbye now23:07
giantpuneim using kubuntu 11.10.  the update manager (apper) just told me it had 273 updates.  i told it to update.  then it downloaded, prepared, and installed a bunch of stuff and then stopped at 84%23:09
giantpunei closed the window, and now i clicked the apper tray icon to load it again and its just hanging there23:09
giantpuneany ideas?23:10
amichairgiantpune: I don't know about apper, but from konsole (command line) you can run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to upgrade all available packages, and "sudo apt-get install -f" (if I remember correctly) to fix half-installed packages23:11
giantpuneseems that apper is stuck and somehow has locked everything else out of the app-stuff23:13
giantpuneE: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)23:13
amichairgiantpune: if you get that message, close all instances of all package managers first. if it still shows, you can just delete the lock file (sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock) and try again.23:14
giantpunehmm.  the update manager thingy is something that kubuntu is running in the background.  im not sure what all i need to kill to end it23:16
Daskreechsillytones: Capital Z?23:27
sillytonesshift-z23:27
sillytonesi probably changed the shortcut myself but I can't find it to change back23:27
Daskreechsillytones: you can try in global shortcuts but sounds like you reassigned the shortcut key for the show desktop applet23:33
Daskreechlen: Steal my sunshine!23:33
sillytonesDaskreech: i can search standard keyboard shortcuts all at once, but I can't in global keyboard shortcuts. do you know hwere to find the show desktop one?23:37
sillytonesDaskreech: actually i found show desktop and it has no shortcut23:38
sillytonesi think it's switching workspaces23:38
sillytonesfound it it was called switch to next workspace23:40
Belial`Daskreech: last night, after i disabled the dim display and screen energy saving under performance (which is for when it's plugged in, which it was) the screen still turned off.23:42
Belial`i read about kde ignoring settings in power management sometimes.23:42
Belial`briefly, anyway.23:42
Daskreechsillytones: it would be kwin23:48
Daskreechsillytones: or plasma desktop. (it's called show dashboard there)23:48
sillytonesthanks, yeah i found it23:48
sillytonesi forget hwere it was23:48
Daskreechsillytones: if you have a showdesktop plasmoid right look at the properties and it will have a keyboard shortcut. That might be set to Z23:49
Daskreechsillytones: Ah workspace switching :)23:49
DaskreechBelial`: Bleah. Might want to talk to someone in #solid23:50
Belial`Daskreech: i actually haven't even checked in #kde yet. i'll probably try that now.23:52
DaskreechOk23:55

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