[03:14] ? [03:14] there? [04:32] hello everyone [04:33] anyone here at this time? [04:36] just leaving [04:36] off to train station ;) [04:38] anyone else? [04:38] I am having trouble with the volume [05:26] How do i get numerical temperature, cpu and memory in panel? I have used https://launchpad.net/indicator-sensors and https://launchpad.net/indicator-sysmonitor on Ubuntu, Thanks [07:52] I installed an updated version of the nvidia drives through offered by the "aditional drivers" menu and now I can't boot... how can I go back to the previous drivers? [08:19] pcsx [08:19] ooops [08:19] hehehe [08:19] hi [11:09] allo [12:12] Dunno why but my display goes always to 80% and I have to manually set it to 100% with xbacklight. How to set display permanently to 100% (brightness) === MichealH is now known as MH0 === M0hi is now known as IAmNotThatGuy [12:57] Where can I see which video driver I'm currently using ? [13:22] hi, does anyone know why im getting horrible window refreshes when i move a window [13:22] basically if i move a window quickly [13:22] nothing refreshes and i get massive ghosting [13:23] until i minimize the app [13:23] or load something over the top of it [13:25] I have "ghosts" too... but for a while [13:25] I think it's Videocard problem [13:26] i've got a nvidia gtx 570 [13:26] I have Radeon 9200 SE ... and it is not well supported [13:26] hm ... [13:26] you mean 5700 ? [13:26] okay [13:27] this could be the issue [13:27] direct rendering: Yes [13:27] server glx vendor string: SGI [13:27] its not using nvidia proprietary drivers maybe [13:27] it may be ... [13:27] i used to use LXDE for all my VMs [13:27] and basically ive had it with GNOME and Unity [13:27] and if im going to fall back and use the old GNOME2 shell i might as well use LXDE [13:28] :P [13:28] ie yes unity is a good step, but it's pretty unstable. [13:28] dunno what they were thinking releasing oneric so early [13:28] (previously I though it is GForce 5700 - my mistake (blush) ) [13:28] nah thats an old old card [13:28] GTX 570 580 590 are newish cards [13:29] I saw ... [13:30] It might be about driver selection ... but - Oh sHell .. I don't know where is the "conf" file [13:30] I've mentioned "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" [13:30] is entire folder about xorg [13:31] but in my case there is no file related with monitor/vc [13:31] oyeah i just realised neither proprietary driver were activated [13:31] least from memory LXDE is pretty solid [13:32] i have a lot of stuff open when i work and nothing worse is having the window manager crash [13:32] ive not had good experiences with KDE either actually [13:32] plasma is still kinda crashy too [13:32] me too [13:32] been completely turned off both desktops for quite a while [13:32] I've stopped liking KDE since 3.4.3 [13:32] yeah i used 4.0-4.2 and then came back in 4.5-4.7 [13:33] it was a bit better [13:33] but there's still rough edges [13:33] then i figured i'd give gnome 3 a shot cos i hadn't used gnome in a while but im not sure what canonical was thinking by doing gnome+unity [13:33] unity is no where near production ready [13:33] ain't ever going to clear bug 1 if it's less stable than it's competition [13:33] Launchpad bug 1 in Ubuntu "Microsoft has a majority market share" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1 [13:34] I think you can still use metacity/compiz ... bla-bla [13:35] I mean ... still in repos [13:35] but I preffer Gnome 3 than Unity [13:36] I 've tried both [13:36] and that seems to have fixed my issues [13:36] installing the driver ;) i must have accidentally removed it when removing gnome [13:36] (thumb_up) ... Great [13:37] about the only thing i do miss in lxde is expose type feature [13:37] thats about the only thing i used [13:37] i guess i have alt tab that's good enough i suppose [13:38] the workspace view wasn't bad either maybe i can bind my workspaces to key combinations [13:39] I've heared about tools ... one in Xfce, one in Gnome ... for key-combos [13:39] but I don't remember names [13:40] mm and a lauchy type bar would be good too [13:41] something with low dependencies [13:41] wbar [13:43] in Ubuntu repos is stil older version [13:43] 1.3 sucks [13:43] but you can download 2.2 from their site [13:44] much pretier [13:44] hmm [13:45] lol yer except it's i386 :P [13:45] hm ? [13:46] im on an amd64 machine [13:46] so ill have to compile from source i guess [13:46] it's about the driver [13:46] or the bar ? [13:47] the bar [13:47] https://code.google.com/p/wbar/downloads/list [13:47] try the debs .. [13:48] I don't think it matters [13:48] it's very light [13:49] (most probably reason for tagging as i386 ) [13:50] i guess ill ahve to use dpkg and force it [13:50] Kalidarn: if you just want some view of all applications running and sorting them by workspace is ok you can middle click the desktop [13:51] haha cept my middle mousebutton is broken lol [13:51] Kalidarn: and you can bind that to a key combo if you want. [13:51] [13:51] client-list-combined-menu [13:51] [13:51] :*/ [13:51] Kalidarn: left+right == middle generally [13:51] try that [13:51] hm [13:51] I'm afk for a 20 mins [13:51] might not work indeed =) [13:53] 5~ [13:53] mm left right? [14:03] hmm what module is reponsible for showing the volume onscreen when using volume keys [14:03] i might have removed that [14:07] hmm [14:07] i wonder if ill get notifications working anymore [14:16] yeah some weird reason notify osd isn't working [15:36] how can i get the caps-lock key to be another control key in Lubuntu? === bodhizazen_ is now known as bodhi_zazen [16:50] hi [16:51] yo [16:51] ;) [16:52] wonder if any1 here is really using the rt preempt kernel [17:00] Linux 3.0.4-linode38 #1 SMP Thu Sep 22 14:59:08 EDT 2011 [17:00] so, yeah, no [17:03] i mean this rt patch [17:04] well never bothered with it but figured such a patch would have an effect on your kernel version [17:04] running here a lowlatency kernel from a ubuntu repo [17:06] and tuned the irq threading [18:24] [18:38] how can I change the video driver, in case that Xorg do not use "xorg.conf" file anymore ? [18:39] I suggest that my system is using "ati", instead of "radeon" [18:41] sudo Xorg -configure [18:41] and change the driver [18:41] also there is something I cannot undestand while read "lshw -C display" result [18:41] I've always used opensource driver, as my card is supported [18:42] !ati [18:42] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [18:44] hi [19:16] hi all ... can someone tell me how to reinstall lubuntu 11.04 ... currently, I am having a shutdown/restart problem and it was suggested I reinstall [19:17] hello guys [19:17] I've gotquestion about strange situation with lubuntu-logout [19:18] emce: I am having a problem like that too ... what is it? [19:19] a use normal root account (su root) with changed root password, and after first login on root account after trying to reboot or halt system there is a prompt about password, which dissapear after few second [19:20] you have to be very quick to put the password :) [19:21] I am having a problem whereby mine will not shutdown or reboot or logout unless I use a terminal [19:22] BenPA: how did you manage to install it in the first time? [19:22] hi guys [19:22] BenPA: just do it the same way [19:23] where do I get desktop setting in lubuntu 1110? [19:23] morri: which desktop settings ? [19:23] brother: you are right ... I used a disk ... I did 2 and the other was upgrading to 11.10 [19:24] BenPA: either you donwload a 11.10 image and use that (cd or usb doesn't matter) or you reuse the old disc and just go through the upgrade again [19:24] desktop setting (thats what it is called) and you use it to change the desktop (colour and background [19:24] brother: sorry my dumbness ... forgot that I did it that way on this machine [19:24] morri: ah ok you want to change the background [19:24] morri: lxappearance? [19:25] morri: I guess right clicking on the desktop and going to preferences [19:25] morri: background is inside the pcmanfm settings. right click the background and select it there or execute pcmanfm --desktop-pref [19:25] :) [19:25] brother: but do you know of a way to fix the shutdown reboot logout error without having to reinstall? [19:26] it isnt in the right click, only the standard desktop reconfig etrc is there but if it is possible to get it via terminal its great [19:26] BenPA: I have no such issue so I have no idea [19:26] BenPA: whats the exact problem there ? [19:26] morri: untick the box at the advanced tab when you have launched via command line [19:28] leszek: I cannot shutdown or reboot or logout from the menu ... only from terminal with shutdown command [19:28] okay cool :) thanks [19:29] leszek: for me - the same [19:30] BenPA: earlier (vary vary long time ago) you had to have your user in a special group [19:31] BenPA: powerdev [19:31] BenPA: for reference. I am not in that group on my 11.10 install so that long shoot is not relevant =) [19:31] brother: ok do what do I do remove it from that group or what [19:31] brother ~$ groups [19:31] brother adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin sambashare admin [19:31] I think my system is fairly standard at this point [19:32] brother: no I see now powerdev group listed [19:32] see no [19:33] brother: adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin netdev admin sambashare [19:34] BenPA emce: So you don't have the menu entry or if you press logout it does nothing ? [19:35] brother: I have the entry but my laptop hangs and does nothing ... looks as tho it is going to do something but hangs [19:35] leszek: a use normal root account (su root) with changed root password, and after first login on root account after trying to reboot or halt system there is a prompt about password, which dissapear after few second [19:35] brother: I have a netdev group is the only one I see that might be different from yours [19:35] I click either menu or button on panel [19:36] brother: same here [19:37] hmm... you could try replacing lxdm with gdm and then reboot. Perhaps this will work. And its never wise to login as root in a graphical environment [19:37] brother/leszek: I went to launchpad first before coming here and the last entry on a post was to reinstall [19:38] BenPA: I am not sure if I was unclear or anything. [19:38] leszek: I am using kdm ... using kde not gnome [19:39] BenPA: I have /NO/ idea how to solve this for you. my ideas was old and not applicable. [19:39] BenPA: my system works fine [19:39] BenPA: I installed 11.04 and have upgraded to 11.10 [19:40] BenPA: maybe this is the problem [19:40] brother: I just installed 11.04 about 2 weeks ago [19:40] perhaps you need lxdm or gdm for it to work [19:40] brother: I installed on an unused unformatted partition [19:40] leszek: it's not in graphical e., just in conole [19:40] console [19:41] BenPA: thanks. and I can not help you. [19:41] ah ok [19:41] brother: thanks [21:38] I am using empathy on lubuntu. How can I setup the proxy it uses? [21:38] normally I would use "system>preferences>Network proxy" === robotman is now known as AlexAv [23:03] anyone know about unencrypting $HOME? [23:13] hi [23:13] has anyone ever got the message from filesystem or hd "read only filesystem" [23:14] I don't understand what might be wrong, but something is locking up the system [23:16] if I do a read/write test from live lubuntu CD, would it detect any hard ware trouble I might be having? [23:17] I booted in lubuntu live cd and could not delete and reformat hard drive, and it took me a while to understand the live cd somehow grabs swap [23:17] when I found a work around it formatted fine [23:17] but I still get this "read only filesystem" what ever I use on the hard drive [23:18] disk utility shows everything as fine, healthy disk and green lights [23:18] any idea how to trouble shoot for errors ? [23:19] this laptop is on it's way into the garbage bin unless I find a way to target these issues [23:20] it is not just lubuntu, as I made a frugal install with safefile on a newly formatted hard drive and still get the same messages [23:21] controller problem? [23:21] see if you have the same issues with an external [23:21] controller? [23:21] on yes, usb connected [23:22] https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Disk_controller [23:23] if you have no such problem with a usb external drive, then it's either the drive (unlikely given the green lights) or the controller [23:23] there's an array of smaller related issues it could be: [23:23] bad cable [23:23] not connected correctly [23:23] I see [23:24] jumpers being set wrong [23:24] jumpers? [23:24] hardware switches basically [23:24] system has froze again here, so need a reboot to make it work again [23:24] if you never opened it up probably not [23:24] and proabably not if it used to work [23:25] i've heard of cables dying and/or coming unseated [23:25] the latter especially so with laptops [23:25] i had a hard drive that i thought was going bad one time, because it kept makng this clicking noise. [23:25] hahahahah [23:26] I have disassebled it, for cleaning cpu fan and installing a better hard driver [23:26] we call that jra in the bike industry, KM0201 [23:26] jra? [23:26] as in "i was just riding along when..." [23:26] lol, [23:26] HD * [23:26] so you have a new hard drive.. might have been installed incorrectly or whatever [23:27] well, the hard drive ended up being fine, but when i went to remove the molex connector, i discovered a single broken wire inside the molex connector.... [23:27] i'd say you likely have a hardware (read: not lubuntu) issue [23:27] i toko the HD back, bought a power supply, and the problem never occurred again. [23:27] sweeet [23:27] only thing i can assume, is the irregular voltage was causing the platters to click and clack from starting/stopping [23:28] wxl, yes I am having that feeling too [23:28] not sure powersupply can be replaced in laptops [23:28] maybe this old notebook has served it's time [23:29] I should just focus on replacing it rather than keep it up [23:30] Ned1: its not really the power supply that goes bad on a laptop (as that is n the outside) its the power connector that is inside the case, they can be replaced, but it's not for the novice [23:30] usually requires to remove the motherboard (which can be a pain on some laptops) [23:30] I shall have to replace the fan too, as it has become considerably more noisy than it used to be [23:30] and soldering on a new connector [23:30] that's a little beyond me [23:30] i fear no mac, brave soul that i am, but i don't trust myself soldering [23:31] i'd like to say i could but alas. [23:31] I have had bad luck lately [23:31] both my computers have failed me [23:32] they are all old like 4 years or so [23:32] the other one have some strange issues with power on/off button [23:32] I cannot switch it on anylonger at all [23:32] it used to be a good one, ran windows 7 and ubuntu fine [23:33] lubuntu too [23:33] desktop environment in Ubuntu is very nice, but I like the simple light mplayer setup [23:34] not taxing to the system, and suits my purpose [23:35] Ned1: are you talkin gabout "ubuntu" or "lubuntu".. cuz i'd call the DE of ubuntu, anything but "light" [23:35] thanks for the tips, I shall have to check for bad connectors and wires [23:36] Yes I was talking about the Ubuntu desktop, gnome with something? [23:36] it looks very nice [23:36] yes, gnome with bloat [23:36] it's pretty and all but damn that's a lot of crap [23:37] well, actually, i really hate unity [23:37] yes, unity, that's it [23:37] wxl: i agree [23:37] Ned1: it might look nice but it's certainly not "light" [23:37] I suppose if you have tons of cpu ram and 64 bit system you hardly know it is bloated ? [23:37] ridiculous icons [23:37] i guess [23:38] but that's waste processing you could use for virtual machines and other fun stuff :D [23:38] Ned1: did you ever use gnome 2.x? [23:38] I have a regular 2GHz cpu and 1GB ram and I notice totem and flash player is very heavy on the system [23:38] sweet [23:38] i got a 1.5ghz laptop [23:38] screaming [23:39] no, not yet [23:39] Ned1: if you had never used gnome 2.x (gnome 3 sucks as bad, if not worse than, unity).. then that explains why you like Unity.. [23:39] LXDE saved me... cuz i'd ahve had to go Xfce, and i didn't really want to do that [23:39] yes, 1.5 can be all fine, even with the latest. It does depend upon other specs in the cpu. Not sure how it works [23:41] in all the disassembling I might have ruined wires and connectors, darn I thought I was careful [23:42] I my mind a notebook should preferably run for 10 years without hard ware failure [23:42] I am afraid sellers and makers wants us to update ever three years or so [23:43] which is just a way to keep the money flowing [23:44] back later ; )