[03:14] <reborn> ?
[03:14] <reborn> there?
[04:32] <fitus> hello everyone
[04:33] <fitus> anyone here at this time?
[04:36] <bioterror> just leaving
[04:36] <bioterror> off to train station ;)
[04:38] <fitus> anyone else?
[04:38] <fitus> I am having trouble with the volume
[05:26] <donniezazen> How do i get numerical temperature, cpu and memory in panel? I have used https://launchpad.net/indicator-sensors and https://launchpad.net/indicator-sysmonitor on Ubuntu, Thanks
[07:52] <ikr11> I installed an updated version of the nvidia drives through offered by the "aditional drivers" menu and now I can't boot... how can I go back to the previous drivers?
[08:19] <l33_> pcsx
[08:19] <l33_> ooops
[08:19] <l33_> hehehe
[08:19] <l33_> hi
[11:09] <morri> allo
[12:12] <teamahma> Dunno why but my display goes always to 80% and I have to manually set it to 100% with xbacklight. How to set display permanently to 100% (brightness)
[12:57] <negthorn> Where can I see which video driver I'm currently using ?
[13:22] <Kalidarn> hi, does anyone know why im getting horrible window refreshes when i move a window
[13:22] <Kalidarn> basically if i move a window quickly
[13:22] <Kalidarn> nothing refreshes and i get massive ghosting
[13:23] <Kalidarn> until i minimize the app
[13:23] <Kalidarn> or load something over the top of it
[13:25] <negthorn> I have "ghosts" too... but for a while
[13:25] <negthorn> I think it's Videocard problem
[13:26] <Kalidarn> i've got a nvidia gtx 570
[13:26] <negthorn> I have Radeon 9200 SE ... and it is not well supported
[13:26] <negthorn> hm ...
[13:26] <negthorn> you mean 5700  ?
[13:26] <Kalidarn> okay
[13:27] <Kalidarn> this could be the issue
[13:27] <Kalidarn> direct rendering: Yes
[13:27] <Kalidarn> server glx vendor string: SGI
[13:27] <Kalidarn> its not using nvidia proprietary drivers maybe
[13:27] <negthorn> it may be ...
[13:27] <Kalidarn> i used to use LXDE for all my VMs
[13:27] <Kalidarn> and basically ive had it with GNOME and Unity
[13:27] <Kalidarn> and if im going to fall back and use the old GNOME2 shell i might as well use LXDE
[13:28] <Kalidarn> :P
[13:28] <Kalidarn> ie yes unity is a good step, but it's pretty unstable.
[13:28] <Kalidarn> dunno what they were thinking releasing oneric so early
[13:28] <negthorn> (previously I though it is GForce 5700 - my mistake (blush) )
[13:28] <Kalidarn> nah thats an old old card
[13:28] <Kalidarn> GTX 570 580 590 are newish cards
[13:29] <negthorn> I saw ...
[13:30] <negthorn> It might be about driver selection ... but  - Oh sHell .. I don't know where is the "conf" file
[13:30] <negthorn> I've mentioned "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[13:30] <negthorn> is entire folder about xorg
[13:31] <negthorn> but in my case there is no file related with monitor/vc
[13:31] <Kalidarn> oyeah i just realised neither proprietary driver were activated
[13:31] <Kalidarn> least from memory LXDE is pretty solid
[13:32] <Kalidarn> i have a lot of stuff open when i work and nothing worse is having the window manager crash
[13:32] <Kalidarn> ive not had good experiences with KDE either actually
[13:32] <Kalidarn> plasma is still kinda crashy too
[13:32] <negthorn> me too
[13:32] <Kalidarn> been completely turned off both desktops for quite a while
[13:32] <negthorn> I've stopped liking KDE since 3.4.3
[13:32] <Kalidarn> yeah i used 4.0-4.2 and then came back in 4.5-4.7
[13:33] <Kalidarn> it was a bit better
[13:33] <Kalidarn> but there's still rough edges
[13:33] <Kalidarn> then i figured i'd give gnome 3 a shot cos i hadn't used gnome in a while but im not sure what canonical was thinking by doing gnome+unity
[13:33] <Kalidarn> unity is no where near production ready
[13:33] <Kalidarn> ain't ever going to clear bug 1 if it's less stable than it's competition
[13:34] <negthorn> I think you can still use metacity/compiz ... bla-bla
[13:35] <negthorn> I mean ... still in repos
[13:35] <negthorn> but I preffer Gnome 3 than Unity
[13:36] <negthorn> I 've tried both
[13:36] <Kalidarn> and that seems to have fixed my issues
[13:36] <Kalidarn> installing the driver ;) i must have accidentally removed it when removing gnome
[13:36] <negthorn> (thumb_up) ... Great
[13:37] <Kalidarn> about the only thing i do miss in lxde is expose type feature
[13:37] <Kalidarn> thats about the only thing i used
[13:37] <Kalidarn> i guess i have alt tab that's good enough i suppose
[13:38] <Kalidarn> the workspace view wasn't bad either maybe i can bind my workspaces to key combinations
[13:39] <negthorn> I've heared about tools ... one in Xfce, one in Gnome ... for key-combos
[13:39] <negthorn> but I don't remember names
[13:40] <Kalidarn> mm and a lauchy type bar would be good too
[13:41] <Kalidarn> something with low dependencies
[13:41] <negthorn> wbar
[13:43] <negthorn> in Ubuntu repos is stil older version
[13:43] <negthorn> 1.3 sucks
[13:43] <negthorn> but you can download 2.2 from their site
[13:44] <negthorn> much pretier
[13:44] <Kalidarn> hmm
[13:45] <Kalidarn> lol yer except it's i386 :P
[13:45] <negthorn> hm ?
[13:46] <Kalidarn> im on an amd64 machine
[13:46] <Kalidarn> so ill have to compile from source i guess
[13:46] <negthorn> it's about the driver
[13:46] <negthorn> or the bar ?
[13:47] <Kalidarn> the bar
[13:47] <Kalidarn> https://code.google.com/p/wbar/downloads/list
[13:47] <negthorn> try the debs ..
[13:48] <negthorn> I don't think it matters
[13:48] <negthorn> it's very light
[13:49] <negthorn> (most probably reason for tagging  as i386 )
[13:50] <Kalidarn> i guess ill ahve to use dpkg and force it
[13:50] <brother-> Kalidarn: if you just want some view of all applications running and sorting them by workspace is ok you can middle click the desktop
[13:51] <Kalidarn> haha cept my middle mousebutton is broken lol
[13:51] <brother-> Kalidarn: and you can bind that to a key combo if you want.
[13:51] <brother->         <action name="ShowMenu">
[13:51] <brother-> 	  <menu>client-list-combined-menu</menu>
[13:51] <brother->         </action>
[13:51] <negthorn>  :*/
[13:51] <brother-> Kalidarn: left+right == middle generally
[13:51] <brother-> try that
[13:51] <brother-> hm
[13:51] <negthorn> I'm afk for a 20 mins
[13:51] <brother-> might not work indeed =)
[13:53] <Kalidarn> 5~
[13:53] <Kalidarn> mm left right?
[14:03] <Kalidarn> hmm what module is reponsible for showing the volume onscreen when using volume keys
[14:03] <Kalidarn> i might have removed that
[14:07] <Kalidarn> hmm
[14:07] <Kalidarn> i wonder if ill get notifications working anymore
[14:16] <Kalidarn> yeah some weird reason notify osd isn't working
[15:36] <adamspgh> how can i get the caps-lock key to be another control key in Lubuntu?
[16:50] <l33_> hi
[16:51] <wxl> yo
[16:51] <l33_> ;)
[16:52] <l33_> wonder if any1 here is really using the rt preempt kernel
[17:00] <wxl> Linux 3.0.4-linode38 #1 SMP Thu Sep 22 14:59:08 EDT 2011
[17:00] <wxl> so, yeah, no
[17:03] <l33_> i mean this rt patch
[17:04] <wxl> well never bothered with it but figured such a patch would have an effect on your kernel version
[17:04] <l33_> running here a lowlatency kernel from a ubuntu repo
[17:06] <l33_> and tuned the irq threading
[18:24] <OneKorea> 
[18:38] <negthorn> how can I change the video driver, in case that Xorg do not use "xorg.conf" file anymore ?
[18:39] <negthorn> I suggest that my system is using "ati", instead of "radeon"
[18:41] <bioterror> sudo Xorg -configure
[18:41] <bioterror> and change the driver
[18:41] <negthorn> also there is something I cannot undestand while read "lshw -C display" result
[18:41] <bioterror> I've always used opensource driver, as my card is supported
[18:42] <bioterror> !ati
[18:44] <leszek> hi
[19:16] <BenPA> hi all ... can someone tell me how to reinstall lubuntu 11.04 ... currently, I am having a shutdown/restart problem and it was suggested I reinstall
[19:17] <emce> hello guys
[19:17] <emce> I've gotquestion about strange situation with lubuntu-logout
[19:18] <BenPA> emce: I am having a problem like that too ... what is it?
[19:19] <emce> a use normal root account (su root) with changed root password, and after first login on root account after trying to reboot or halt system there is a prompt about password, which dissapear after few second
[19:20] <emce> you have to be very quick to put the password :)
[19:21] <BenPA> I am having a problem whereby mine will not shutdown or reboot or logout unless I use a terminal
[19:22] <brother-> BenPA: how did you manage to install it in the first time?
[19:22] <morri> hi guys
[19:22] <brother-> BenPA: just do it the same way
[19:23] <morri> where do I get desktop setting in lubuntu 1110?
[19:23] <leszek> morri: which desktop settings ?
[19:23] <BenPA> brother: you are right ... I used a disk ... I did 2 and the other was upgrading to 11.10
[19:24] <brother-> BenPA: either you donwload a 11.10 image and use that (cd or usb doesn't matter) or you reuse the old disc and just go through the upgrade again
[19:24] <morri> desktop setting (thats what it is called) and you use it to change the desktop (colour and background
[19:24] <BenPA> brother: sorry my dumbness ... forgot that I did it that way on this machine
[19:24] <leszek> morri: ah ok you want to change the background
[19:24] <brother-> morri: lxappearance?
[19:25] <leszek> morri: I guess right clicking on the desktop and going to preferences
[19:25] <brother-> morri: background is inside the pcmanfm settings. right click the background and select it there or execute pcmanfm --desktop-pref
[19:25] <leszek> :)
[19:25] <BenPA> brother: but do you know of a way to fix the shutdown reboot logout error without having to reinstall?
[19:26] <morri> it isnt in the right click, only the standard desktop reconfig etrc is there but if it is possible to get it via terminal its great
[19:26] <brother-> BenPA: I have no such issue so I have no idea
[19:26] <leszek> BenPA: whats the exact problem there ?
[19:26] <brother-> morri: untick the box at the advanced tab when you have launched via command line
[19:28] <BenPA> leszek:  I cannot shutdown or reboot or logout from the menu ... only from terminal with shutdown command
[19:28] <morri> okay cool :) thanks
[19:29] <emce> leszek: for me - the same
[19:30] <brother-> BenPA: earlier (vary vary long time ago) you had to have your user in a special group
[19:31] <brother-> BenPA: powerdev
[19:31] <brother-> BenPA: for reference. I am not in that group on my 11.10 install so that long shoot is not relevant =)
[19:31] <BenPA> brother: ok do what do I do remove it from that group or what
[19:31] <brother-> brother ~$ groups
[19:31] <brother-> brother adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin sambashare admin
[19:31] <brother-> I think my system is fairly standard at this point
[19:32] <BenPA> brother: no I see now powerdev group listed
[19:32] <BenPA> see no
[19:33] <BenPA> brother: adm dialout cdrom plugdev lpadmin netdev admin sambashare
[19:34] <leszek> BenPA emce: So you don't have the menu entry or if you press logout it does nothing ?
[19:35] <BenPA> brother: I have the entry but my laptop hangs and does nothing ... looks as tho it is going to do something but hangs
[19:35] <emce> leszek: a use normal root account (su root) with changed root password, and after first login on root account after trying to reboot or halt system there is a prompt about password, which dissapear after few second
[19:35] <BenPA> brother: I have a netdev group is the only one I see that might be different from yours
[19:35] <emce> I click either menu or button on panel
[19:36] <BenPA> brother: same here
[19:37] <leszek> hmm... you could try replacing lxdm with gdm and then reboot. Perhaps this will work. And its never wise to login as root in a graphical environment
[19:37] <BenPA> brother/leszek: I went to launchpad first before coming here and the last entry on a post was to reinstall
[19:38] <brother-> BenPA: I am not sure if I was unclear or anything.
[19:38] <BenPA> leszek: I am using kdm ... using kde not gnome
[19:39] <brother-> BenPA: I have /NO/ idea how to solve this for you. my ideas was old and not applicable.
[19:39] <brother-> BenPA: my system works fine
[19:39] <brother-> BenPA: I installed 11.04 and have upgraded to 11.10
[19:40] <leszek> BenPA: maybe this is the problem
[19:40] <BenPA> brother: I just installed 11.04 about 2 weeks ago
[19:40] <leszek> perhaps you need lxdm or gdm for it to work
[19:40] <BenPA> brother: I installed on an unused unformatted partition
[19:40] <emce> leszek: it's not in graphical e., just in conole
[19:40] <emce> console
[19:41] <brother-> BenPA: thanks. and I can not help you.
[19:41] <leszek> ah ok
[19:41] <BenPA> brother: thanks
[21:38] <smw> I am using empathy on lubuntu. How can I setup the proxy it uses?
[21:38] <smw> normally I would use "system>preferences>Network proxy"
[23:03] <wxl> anyone know about unencrypting $HOME?
[23:13] <Ned1> hi
[23:13] <Ned1> has anyone ever got the message from filesystem or hd "read only filesystem"
[23:14] <Ned1> I don't understand what might be wrong, but something is locking up the system
[23:16] <Ned1> if I do a read/write test from live lubuntu CD, would it detect any hard ware trouble I might be having?
[23:17] <Ned1> I booted in lubuntu live cd and could not delete and reformat hard drive, and it took me a while to understand the live cd somehow grabs swap
[23:17] <Ned1> when I found a work around it formatted fine
[23:17] <Ned1> but I still get this "read only filesystem" what ever I use on the hard drive
[23:18] <Ned1> disk utility shows everything as fine, healthy disk and green lights
[23:18] <Ned1> any idea how to trouble shoot for errors ?
[23:19] <Ned1> this laptop is on it's way into the garbage bin unless I find a way to target these issues
[23:20] <Ned1> it is not just lubuntu, as I made a frugal install with safefile on a newly formatted hard drive and still get the same messages
[23:21] <wxl> controller problem?
[23:21] <wxl> see if you have the same issues with an external
[23:21] <Ned1> controller?
[23:21] <Ned1> on yes, usb connected
[23:22] <wxl> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Disk_controller
[23:23] <wxl> if you have no such problem with a usb external drive, then it's either the drive (unlikely given the green lights) or the controller
[23:23] <wxl> there's an array of smaller related issues it could be:
[23:23] <wxl> bad cable
[23:23] <wxl> not connected correctly
[23:23] <Ned1> I see
[23:24] <wxl> jumpers being set wrong
[23:24] <Ned1> jumpers?
[23:24] <wxl> hardware switches basically
[23:24] <Ned1> system has froze again here, so need a reboot to make it work again
[23:24] <wxl> if you never opened it up probably not
[23:24] <wxl> and proabably not if it used to work
[23:25] <wxl> i've heard of cables dying and/or coming unseated
[23:25] <wxl> the latter especially so with laptops
[23:25] <KM0201> i had a hard drive that i thought was going bad one time, because it kept makng this clicking noise.
[23:25] <wxl> hahahahah
[23:26] <Ned1> I have disassebled it, for cleaning cpu fan and installing a better hard driver
[23:26] <wxl> we call that jra in the bike industry, KM0201
[23:26] <KM0201> jra?
[23:26] <wxl> as in "i was just riding along when..."
[23:26] <KM0201> lol,
[23:26] <Ned1> HD *
[23:26] <wxl> so you have a new hard drive.. might have been installed incorrectly or whatever
[23:27] <KM0201> well, the hard drive ended up being fine, but when i went to remove the molex connector, i discovered a single broken wire inside the molex connector....
[23:27] <wxl> i'd say you likely have a hardware (read: not lubuntu) issue
[23:27] <KM0201> i toko the HD back, bought a power supply, and the problem never occurred again.
[23:27] <wxl> sweeet
[23:27] <KM0201> only thing i can assume, is the irregular voltage was causing the platters to click and clack from starting/stopping
[23:28] <Ned1> wxl, yes I am having that feeling too
[23:28] <Ned1> not sure powersupply can be replaced in laptops
[23:28] <Ned1> maybe this old notebook has served it's time
[23:29] <Ned1> I should just focus on replacing it rather than keep it up
[23:30] <KM0201> Ned1: its not really the power supply that goes bad on a laptop (as that is n the outside) its the power connector that is inside the case, they can be replaced, but it's not for the novice
[23:30] <KM0201> usually requires to remove the motherboard (which can be a pain on some laptops)
[23:30] <Ned1> I shall have to replace the fan too, as it has become considerably more noisy than it used to be
[23:30] <KM0201> and soldering on a new connector
[23:30] <wxl> that's a little beyond me
[23:30] <wxl> i fear no mac, brave soul that i am, but i don't trust myself soldering
[23:31] <wxl> i'd like to say i could but alas.
[23:31] <Ned1> I have had bad luck lately
[23:31] <Ned1> both my computers have failed me
[23:32] <Ned1> they are all old like 4 years or so
[23:32] <Ned1> the other one have some strange issues with power on/off button
[23:32] <Ned1> I cannot switch it on anylonger at all
[23:32] <Ned1> it used to be a good one, ran windows 7 and ubuntu fine
[23:33] <Ned1> lubuntu too
[23:33] <Ned1> desktop environment in Ubuntu is very nice, but I like the simple light mplayer setup
[23:34] <Ned1> not taxing to the system, and suits my purpose
[23:35] <KM0201> Ned1: are you talkin gabout "ubuntu" or "lubuntu".. cuz i'd call the DE of ubuntu, anything but "light"
[23:35] <Ned1> thanks for the tips, I shall have to check for bad connectors and wires
[23:36] <Ned1> Yes I was talking about the Ubuntu desktop, gnome with something?
[23:36] <Ned1> it looks very nice
[23:36] <wxl> yes, gnome with bloat
[23:36] <wxl> it's pretty and all but damn that's a lot of crap
[23:37] <wxl> well, actually, i really hate unity
[23:37] <Ned1> yes, unity, that's it
[23:37] <KM0201> wxl: i agree
[23:37] <KM0201> Ned1: it might look nice but it's certainly not "light"
[23:37] <Ned1> I suppose if you have tons of cpu ram and 64 bit system you hardly know it is bloated ?
[23:37] <wxl> ridiculous icons
[23:37] <wxl> i guess
[23:38] <wxl> but that's waste processing you could use for virtual machines and other fun stuff :D
[23:38] <KM0201> Ned1: did you ever use gnome 2.x?
[23:38] <Ned1> I have a regular 2GHz cpu and 1GB ram and I notice totem and flash player is very heavy on the system
[23:38] <wxl> sweet
[23:38] <wxl> i got a 1.5ghz laptop
[23:38] <wxl> screaming
[23:39] <Ned1> no, not yet
[23:39] <KM0201> Ned1: if you had never used gnome 2.x (gnome 3 sucks as bad, if not worse than, unity).. then that explains why you like Unity..
[23:39] <KM0201> LXDE saved me... cuz i'd ahve had to go Xfce, and i didn't really want to do that
[23:39] <Ned1> yes, 1.5 can be all fine, even with the latest. It does depend upon other specs in the cpu. Not sure how it works
[23:41] <Ned1> in all the disassembling I might have ruined wires and connectors, darn I thought I was careful
[23:42] <Ned1> I my  mind a notebook should preferably run for 10 years without hard ware failure
[23:42] <Ned1> I am afraid sellers and makers wants us to update ever three years or so
[23:43] <Ned1> which is just a way to keep the money flowing
[23:44] <Ned1> back later ; )