| Patrickdk | why would someone be able to help you? | 00:00 |
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| Patrickdk | you haven't even stated your issue | 00:01 |
| Patrickdk | !ask | 00:01 |
| ubottu | Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 00:01 |
| root_ | Alright, I'm sorry about that guys, I'm new to this. I just installed linux last night and I finnaly got it running good with no errors, but I cannot download anything from the software centre, I see install but when I click it nothing happens. | 00:02 |
| Patrickdk | you JUST installed ubuntu? and you installed 12.04? | 00:03 |
| root_ | 11.10 i believe | 00:03 |
| Patrickdk | you do know that 12.04 is not stable | 00:03 |
| Patrickdk | this channel is only for 12.04 help | 00:03 |
| Patrickdk | visit #ubuntu for other versions | 00:03 |
| root_ | im using irrisi how do i navigate to there? | 00:04 |
| Patrickdk | I wouldn't know | 00:04 |
| tomodachi | root_: there are several ways | 00:04 |
| tomodachi | root_: type /join #ubuntu | 00:04 |
| tomodachi | to join that room , godspeed | 00:05 |
| Patrickdk | hmm, I really need to submit a patch for mytop | 00:05 |
| Patrickdk | this bug has annoyed me for the last 10 years | 00:05 |
| sillytones | so if I understand the planning right, pangolin will be mostly like 11.10 with more polish and attention to detail? | 03:22 |
| sillytones | or will it be more like 8.04 with a bunch of new features | 03:22 |
| jbicha | sillytones: we're shooting for similar to 11.10 but with less bugs & more consistency :) | 03:26 |
| sillytones | jbicha: ok cool! Also I wonder if touchpads will enjoy better support | 03:26 |
| jbicha | sillytones: what do you mean re: touchpad support ? | 03:27 |
| sillytones | I see a lot of people looking for support on forums and google | 03:27 |
| sillytones | also as a personal anecdote, edge scrolling stopped working for me in 11.04, and still hadn't been addressed in 11.10 | 03:28 |
| sillytones | so i'm wondering if 12.04 will be any different | 03:28 |
| sillytones | jbicha: this seems like it might be the main beef: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/747092/comments/43 | 03:44 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 747092 in linux (Ubuntu) "[FUJITSU FMVNP2PL] edge scrolling does not work" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 03:44 |
| jbicha | sillytones: ah ok, I don't do much with kernel stuff | 03:47 |
| sillytones | jbicha: it would be cool if ubuntu could detect known issues like that and say, "hey, looks like your trackpad's not working! that's because..." but that would be in a perfect alternate dimention | 03:49 |
| jbicha | maybe as Ubuntu Friendly gets going that will be possible | 03:55 |
| jbicha | I'd love to see Ubuntu get smart enough to warn users if their hardware won't work well with an upgrade | 03:56 |
| sillytones | jbicha: I did the hardware survey for ubuntu friendly, but I noticed something I'm not sure is intentional | 04:33 |
| sillytones | jbicha: the whole survey is really long, and the last thing you test is standby -- my computer wouldn't wake from standby, so I had to hard reset -- was all the time I put into the survey lost then? | 04:34 |
| jbicha | sillytones: good question, you could file a bug report or ask ubuntu-friendly-squad@lists.launchpad.net | 04:37 |
| sillytones | email sent :) | 04:41 |
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| FernandoMiguel | murninf | 10:00 |
| jasef | Morning | 10:01 |
| jasef | O_O | 10:01 |
| jasef | Anyone know where I can find dailies for Pangolin desktop? Or am I jumping the gun a bit? | 10:05 |
| Ian_Corne | you're jumping the gun | 10:07 |
| FernandoMiguel | jasef: toooo soon | 10:07 |
| FernandoMiguel | just upgrade from 11.10 | 10:07 |
| * FernandoMiguel misses running 12.04.... is loosing the boat :\ | 10:07 | |
| FernandoMiguel | when I said I wasn't sure I would be running 12.x while at 11.10, I sure didn't meaning not having the HW for it....... *ML | 10:08 |
| Ian_Corne | the hw? | 10:10 |
| jasef | When do you think I'll be able to get some dailies for it? I like running bleeding edge software and scaring my friends :P | 10:11 |
| Ian_Corne | jasef: alpha1 I think | 10:12 |
| Ian_Corne | but you can just upgrade your 11.10 | 10:12 |
| jasef | I can? How? Just doing s/oneiric/precice/ on /etc/apt/sources.list? | 10:13 |
| Ian_Corne | yes | 10:13 |
| jasef | Oh, sexy. Should I expect a lot of random weird things? | 10:13 |
| FernandoMiguel | never did | 10:15 |
| FernandoMiguel | as long as you have the main meta packages | 10:16 |
| FernandoMiguel | and if you do, than you found a bug :) | 10:16 |
| kyofel | nothing weird broken here yet after the upgrade at least | 10:16 |
| * FernandoMiguel looks at kyofel nick and scratches head...... | 10:17 | |
| FernandoMiguel | kyofel: I resamble that nick from some place .... | 10:17 |
| kyofel | I'm at school - only web client avaliable :( | 10:18 |
| FernandoMiguel | lol | 10:18 |
| kyofel | that's why I'm twice in there now. web + quassel | 10:18 |
| FernandoMiguel | :D | 10:18 |
| FernandoMiguel | you addicted | 10:18 |
| kyofel | :P | 10:18 |
| jasef | I know when I was running natty dailies, I had bugs with stuff because some packages depended on and old version of gcc | 10:19 |
| Ian_Corne | jasef: for me nothing broken that wasn't broken before :D | 10:19 |
| jasef | Kay. Updating now :D | 10:19 |
| jasef | How do I use sed to do this again? | 10:19 |
| FernandoMiguel | jasef: did you have both repo versions? | 10:19 |
| FernandoMiguel | jasef: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list | 10:19 |
| FernandoMiguel | ctrl+f | 10:19 |
| FernandoMiguel | :D | 10:19 |
| jasef | FernandoMiguel, for natty dailies? I don't remember. | 10:19 |
| jasef | Grrr, ruining my CLI fun. | 10:20 |
| FernandoMiguel | :D | 10:21 |
| FernandoMiguel | nano FTW | 10:21 |
| FernandoMiguel | or $ man sed | 10:22 |
| FernandoMiguel | you gonna need to take a couple of hours to read *and* understand all the regexp syntax. and do backup your sources :p | 10:22 |
| jasef | root@dionysus:~# mv /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.oneiric | 10:24 |
| jasef | root@dionysus:~# sed 's/oneiric/precise/' </etc/apt/sources.oneirc >/etc/apt/sources.list | 10:25 |
| jasef | <- so proud of myself xD | 10:25 |
| jasef | er... ignore the typo in that second one, I fixed it in my CLI command but did it before I copied it >.> | 10:25 |
| * FernandoMiguel pats jasef in the back | 10:25 | |
| FernandoMiguel | AFAIR sed can backup the file too | 10:26 |
| FernandoMiguel | so you could do that inline | 10:26 |
| jasef | O_O. | 10:27 |
| jasef | Must know how... | 10:27 |
| jasef | I got 404 errors on two of my sources, is that okay? | 10:31 |
| Ian_Corne | no | 10:31 |
| Ian_Corne | it shouldn't | 10:31 |
| Ian_Corne | unless it's partner | 10:31 |
| kyofel | or PPA's | 10:31 |
| jasef | Both are from extras.ubuntu.com | 10:31 |
| FernandoMiguel | strip those.. and also comment all PPAs till you make sure they are available | 10:32 |
| Ian_Corne | that's the same as partner I think | 10:32 |
| Ian_Corne | just put oneiric there | 10:32 |
| FernandoMiguel | although you can use older ones, many times | 10:32 |
| Ian_Corne | FernandoMiguel: the ppa's are in sources.list.d | 10:32 |
| Ian_Corne | and should not be changed with the sed command | 10:32 |
| FernandoMiguel | not mine | 10:32 |
| Ian_Corne | ah | 10:32 |
| Ian_Corne | you don't add them with add-apt-repository? | 10:32 |
| FernandoMiguel | I still have ppas back ijn maverick.... | 10:32 |
| FernandoMiguel | Ian_Corne: I'm an old dog | 10:33 |
| Ian_Corne | Me too, but I clear out sources.list and ppa's eveyr now and then :) | 10:33 |
| jasef | So I shouldn't get any problems using the oneiric versions of those? | 10:33 |
| FernandoMiguel | who knows | 10:33 |
| FernandoMiguel | YMMV.... it may just work.... or eat kittens | 10:34 |
| jasef | Lol thanks :P I'll try and see what happens... I should find out what software I have from those repositories first | 10:34 |
| jasef | Uhm. Any way to do that without installing Synaptic? | 10:35 |
| FernandoMiguel | do what? | 10:37 |
| FernandoMiguel | apt-cache policy is your best friend | 10:37 |
| Ian_Corne | I don't think it's can go wrong, dependencies versions are set | 10:37 |
| Ian_Corne | and stuff | 10:37 |
| Ian_Corne | at most, updating will be annoying | 10:38 |
| jasef | FernandoMiguel, I mean finding what packages I've installed from a particular source | 10:38 |
| FernandoMiguel | yeah, synaptic has one of the best views for it | 10:38 |
| jasef | o: It's installing synaptic without any problems... I thought it'd have to update a tonne of packages since I made it all go to precise lol | 10:39 |
| FernandoMiguel | oh rite, now synpacit is not part of -desktop... | 10:40 |
| FernandoMiguel | it's like aptitude LOL | 10:40 |
| jasef | I still don't understand why they removed Synaptic. | 10:40 |
| kyofel | it's too intelligent for common people | 10:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | :))) | 10:45 |
| FernandoMiguel | jasef: I also agree it's uncessary for most common users | 10:45 |
| FernandoMiguel | especially with the all pretty software center | 10:45 |
| jasef | Software Centre is kinda annoying and slow for me. | 10:46 |
| FernandoMiguel | me too | 10:46 |
| FernandoMiguel | but I use aptitude for most of my installs | 10:46 |
| jasef | Eh... I'm just commenting out the repositories for now, I don't figure any harm will come. | 10:46 |
| jasef | I don't like aptitude... I just use apt-get | 10:47 |
| FernandoMiguel | too late... you should do that *before* you upgrade | 10:47 |
| jasef | I haven't upgraded yet. | 10:47 |
| FernandoMiguel | don't forget to --update first , so you get the new sources | 10:47 |
| jasef | All I did was changed the sources.list | 10:47 |
| FernandoMiguel | protip: apt-get clean | 10:47 |
| jasef | What does clean do? | 10:47 |
| FernandoMiguel | cleans out all the packages you have in /car/cache/apt | 10:47 |
| FernandoMiguel | and all the .lists, that will be outdated for 12.x | 10:48 |
| FernandoMiguel | *var | 10:48 |
| jasef | So if I just do apt-get clean, then apt-get update, I should be fine? | 10:48 |
| jasef | What's better, apt-get upgrade, or apt-get dist-upgrade? | 10:48 |
| FernandoMiguel | $ du -csh /var/cache/apt/archives/ | 10:48 |
| FernandoMiguel | 491Mtotal | 10:48 |
| FernandoMiguel | jasef: I dunno. I just use aptitude | 10:49 |
| FernandoMiguel | have been using it since the times I did the kde 3.5 > 4.1 migration | 10:49 |
| jasef | Aptitude has both options too, doesn't it? | 10:49 |
| FernandoMiguel | safe-upgrade and full-upgrade | 10:49 |
| FernandoMiguel | which certanly SOUND nicer and more clear than those from apt-get | 10:49 |
| jasef | Freaking touchpad. | 10:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | *which certanly SOUND nicer and more clear than those from apt-get | 10:50 |
| jasef | Anyway, using aptitude, which command would you recommend I run? | 10:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | safe | 10:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | THAN full | 10:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | I even have an alias for it lOL | 10:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | $ sudo apt-get update ; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade | 10:50 |
| jasef | FCKING. | 10:51 |
| jasef | >.> | 10:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | $ sudo apt-get update ; sudo aptitude safe-upgrade ; sudo aptitude full-upgrade | 10:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | !language | jasef | 10:51 |
| ubottu | jasef: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. | 10:51 |
| jasef | >.> Sorry | 10:51 |
| FernandoMiguel | I know | 10:51 |
| jasef | I'll be good now. | 10:51 |
| jasef | Argh. Google repositories so slow for running update | 10:52 |
| jasef | Yay, lol. 496 packages upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded. | 10:53 |
| jasef | Well, I'm gonna go for dinner and leave my little netbook upgrading. Thanks for all the help :) | 10:54 |
| jasef | And I'll try to remember about the language from now on. | 10:54 |
| Ian_Corne | aptitude safe-upgrade is broken on my 64 bit machine | 10:57 |
| Ian_Corne | always need to use --full-resolve or something | 10:57 |
| Ian_Corne | and that's just dependency hell | 10:57 |
| FernandoMiguel | can't test *right now* but was fine last week | 10:58 |
| jasef | Delayed by my emails D:. Going to dinner now, but safe-upgrade is working fine for me atm, I'll report how it goes when I get back home :) | 11:05 |
| jasef | Yay. It finished downloading the safe-update... it was waiting for my confirmation on gnome's default applications file >.> | 13:31 |
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| jasef | :( so sad | 14:00 |
| jasef | My login screen still says 11.10 | 14:00 |
| drussell | jasef: tip-ex? | 14:21 |
| FernandoMiguel | someone has logs of a chat from 2 weeks ago we were having about passwords? I'm not in my laptop and seems chrome didn't sync my bookmarks :( | 14:44 |
| Pici | !1984 | FernandoMiguel | 14:44 |
| ubottu | FernandoMiguel: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too; for older LoCo channel logs, see http://logs.ubuntu-eu.org/freenode/ | 14:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | thanks Pici | 14:44 |
| Pici | np | 14:44 |
| bjsnider | it syncs but you have to sign into gmail | 14:44 |
| FernandoMiguel | -_-' | 14:45 |
| FernandoMiguel | no luck going over those logs .... oh well | 14:50 |
| FernandoMiguel | found it : http://passwordmaker.org | 14:52 |
| bjsnider | FernandoMiguel, oh, that's what you were looking for | 15:12 |
| FernandoMiguel | bjsnider: it was | 15:23 |
| FernandoMiguel | so I keep generating the passwords with the same scheme | 15:23 |
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| * Ian_Corne removes all 32bit cruft | 17:50 | |
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| === wake is now known as Senix | ||
| roasted_ | Exit. | 22:33 |
| roasted_ | Exit | 22:33 |
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