| RAOF | Hm. ?Disc has a few bad sectors?. That could, perhaps, trigger some sort of warning, rather than waiting around until I check why everything's going mental. | 01:37 |
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| bjsnider | RAOF, the hdd can have a few bad sectors without it being an immediate crisis. it can continue to perform fine for years afterwards | 01:52 |
| RAOF | bjsnider: It would, however, be polite for our tools to pop up a little ?oh, by the way, we've detected errors on your harddrive? message the first time it happens. | 01:53 |
| bjsnider | the system could also show the user everything that's in .xsession-errors and dmesg | 01:55 |
| RAOF | It could, but that happens *enormously* more often than my disc increasing its bad sector count by 16. | 01:56 |
| bjsnider | by the way... | 01:56 |
| bjsnider | you need to replace that drive right now | 01:57 |
| bjsnider | i'm sure you already knew that | 01:57 |
| RAOF | Yeah. | 01:59 |
| RAOF | Which is why it'd be polite for our desktop environment to give me a heads up. | 01:59 |
| bjsnider | does osx do that? | 02:00 |
| jbicha | RAOF: palimpsest doesn't do a popup like that any more? | 02:00 |
| RAOF | jbicha: Apparently not. | 02:00 |
| bjsnider | in some cases windows will ask the user to do a chkdsk when it detects disk errors | 02:00 |
| jbicha | I have 7 bad sectors, hope it's not too big of a deal | 02:01 |
| bjsnider | palimpsest is to difficult for average users to understand | 02:01 |
| bjsnider | jbicha, as long as it isn't increasing | 02:01 |
| bjsnider | the sectors will be marked and the system will not try to use them anymore | 02:02 |
| TheMuso | I thought one got a pop-up with drives that had bad sectors. I remember connecting a drive externally a while back, and discvoered through a pop-up that it had bad sectors... | 03:03 |
| bjsnider | during the karmic cycle there were bugs reported where people complained about a lot of false positives, and then a new release quieted the warnings down to the point where you're only warned "if the disk is really failing", so perhaps a few bad sectors isn't bad enough to produce the warning | 04:03 |
| bjsnider | that was bug 412152 | 04:04 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 412152 in gnome-disk-utility "gnome-disk-utility nags me too much that my disk is failing" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/412152 | 04:04 |
| TheMuso | Interesting, because I ran a scan on the disk and it did have bad sectors. | 04:17 |
| pitti | Good morning | 04:19 |
| bjsnider | i don't think bad sectors alone is enough to generate the warning message anymore, but it was in karmic | 04:22 |
| jbicha | pitti: good morning! could we get bug 878672 looked at? | 04:30 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 878672 in gnome-shell "[SRU] Please upgrade gnome-shell and mutter to 3.2.1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/878672 | 04:30 |
| bjsnider | yeah, that would be cool | 04:31 |
| pitti | jbicha: ah, there they are; I wanted to sponsor branches on Friday, but the LP search for branches timed out, and they weren't on the pad | 04:32 |
| pitti | jbicha: yes, can do | 04:32 |
| jbicha | pitti: oh ok :) | 04:33 |
| pitti | err, what? | 04:34 |
| pitti | $ bzr branch lp:ubuntu/oneiric/mutter | 04:34 |
| pitti | bzr: ERROR: Revision {martin.pitt@canonical.com-20110928045929-gjsb9pcy1rq0l1i2} not present in "Graph(StackedParentsProvider(bzrlib.repository._LazyListJoin(([CachingParentsProvider(None)], []))))". | 04:34 |
| pitti | ubuntu:oneiric/gnome-shell works fine | 04:34 |
| pitti | and lp:ubuntu/mutter is out of date | 04:35 |
| pitti | ah, but seems you do carry 3.2.0-0ubuntu2 in your branch | 04:36 |
| pitti | jbicha: why does g-shell bump the dh compat? | 04:38 |
| jbicha | pitti: just because, we could drop that change if you like | 04:39 |
| pitti | jbicha: better for an SRU to not change the build system | 04:40 |
| pitti | jbicha: ok, I'll revert it in the merge | 04:42 |
| jbicha | pitti: ok, thank you | 04:42 |
| pitti | jbicha: ok, both sponsored, thanks! | 04:43 |
| bjsnider | i'd like to see the user-menu status bug fixed if there's a patch available | 04:59 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: which bug? | 05:00 |
| bjsnider | the status-menu will not change to online unless the user manually sets it. it's a missing feature | 05:01 |
| bjsnider | i've been bugging them about it | 05:01 |
| bjsnider | that's how empathy gets its status, so it has implications outside gnome-shell too | 05:02 |
| bjsnider | i'm not 100% sure what the eta is, or how trivial a change it would be | 05:03 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: well the first time should be manual, right? | 05:03 |
| bjsnider | no, it should be based on mouse/keyboard use, just like the screensaver and whatnot | 05:04 |
| bjsnider | right now, mine says away, even though i'm obviously using the system | 05:05 |
| jbicha | this fix in 3.2.1 helps some, right? http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=2947b921489937e6fb8ea8d9634510585b78bcc0 | 05:06 |
| bjsnider | probably not, since the session is always at away or unavailable unless the user directly intervenes | 05:07 |
| bjsnider | they told me this week that it's a feature not yet implemented. at least i think that's what they were saying | 05:08 |
| bjsnider | i wanted to know about 3.2.1, because i thought maybe it was fixed there, but it isn't | 05:08 |
| jbicha | that sounds more appropriate for 3.3 | 05:08 |
| bjsnider | well, i have no idea how trivial a change it is | 05:09 |
| bjsnider | maybe it's a few lines, maybe it's a lot more than that | 05:09 |
| bjsnider | i mean we're only talking about changing the status to online. the status area works otherwise. the other status options are implemented | 05:10 |
| bjsnider | jbicha, there's a sushi 2.1 now. a few small changes. nothing that would affect the packaging scripts in any way | 05:12 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: would you like to open an SRU bug for it? the text file preview toolbar fix would be good to have | 05:19 |
| bjsnider | yeah, that's fine. i already built local packages and installed them. no problems arise, so it's safe | 05:20 |
| bjsnider | don't know what's holding up 848198 either. those patches fix two bugs. | 05:21 |
| jbicha | bjsnider: why don't you propose an update with a bzr branch or at least a debdiff? | 05:24 |
| bjsnider | what do i do with the debdiff? | 05:26 |
| bjsnider | do i post it on the bug page? | 05:27 |
| RAOF | Dear lord gnome-desktop is a big fan of grabbing the server, querying the current mode, and then setting *exactly the same mode* over and over again. | 05:51 |
| RAOF | We're lucky the driver doesn't blindly modeset each time it's asked. | 05:52 |
| TeTeT | RAOF: hi Chris, with respect to bug 820327 I wanted to let you know that in LVM's Ubuntu deployment I removed 10_fn-F7.patch from gsd as it made fn-f7 jump to the wrong display setting and caused the virtual desktops (bottom right) to show wrong areas, maybe it needs to be dropped here as well | 07:19 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 820327 in gnome-settings-daemon "Fn+F7 cycling gives external monitor incorrect resolution on Thinkpad x220" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/820327 | 07:19 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 07:27 |
| Omega | morning | 07:28 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 07:28 |
| chrisccoulson | hi pitti, how are you? | 07:28 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: quite fine, thanks! how about you? | 07:28 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - yeah, good thanks. although, i feel a bit sleepy this morning | 07:29 |
| Sweetshark | G'Morning Desktoppers! | 08:20 |
| pitti | hey Sweetshark | 08:22 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm rewriting ubufox atm to drop the apturl dependency, and also stop using http://mozilla-pfs.ubuntu.com/. is there actually a way to search for packages providing a particular mimetype? | 08:22 |
| huats | morning | 08:23 |
| chrisccoulson | i had a look at sessioninstaller, but i'm not sure it does what i want | 08:23 |
| rickspencer3 | hi huats | 08:31 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo, you there? | 08:32 |
| rodrigo_ | morning | 08:33 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: yes | 08:34 |
| huats | hey rickspencer3 ! | 08:34 |
| chrisccoulson | hi mvo. did you see my earlier comments there? | 08:34 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: no, sorry, could you please paste it again? | 08:34 |
| huats | rickspencer3, I am not at the office today (giving a course to students) but be there tomorrow, so you are welcome to join us ! | 08:35 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - i'm trying to figure out the best way of searching for packages providing a particular mimetype | 08:35 |
| chrisccoulson | this is in the context of ubufox, which i'm currently rewriting to stop using https://mozilla-pfs.ubuntu.com/ and no longer depend on apturl | 08:35 |
| rickspencer3 | huats, sounds good, but I'm leaving today! | 08:35 |
| chrisccoulson | (for the plugin finder) | 08:35 |
| rickspencer3 | Munich for Qt Dev Days tomorrow, then Orlando! | 08:35 |
| huats | rickspencer3, oh I forgot about the Qt thing :( | 08:36 |
| chrisccoulson | and i took a look at sessioninstaller, thinking it might do what i want, but then i realized it probably won't | 08:36 |
| rickspencer3 | huats, I plan to come way more after FL, so we can speak more French :) | 08:36 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: the xapian db we use has this info, software-center search:mime:text/html should work for example | 08:36 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: currently the startup speed is not ideal, but we are working to improve that | 08:36 |
| huats | rickspencer3, hum we will speak french i Florida ! | 08:36 |
| rickspencer3 | I hope so! | 08:37 |
| rickspencer3 | huats, I go for days here without speaking any French :( | 08:37 |
| rickspencer3 | I'll probably have more chance in FL than in France :) | 08:37 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - one thing i'm trying to avoid is depending on an external UI like software-center for this. the reason being that if we don't have a plugin to handle a specific mimetype in our archive, i want to fall back to using https://pfs.mozilla.org to query upstreams db | 08:38 |
| chrisccoulson | and i want to do that transparently really, with a single UI | 08:38 |
| huats | rickspencer3, indeed ! | 08:38 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: aha, ok, so you need a commandline helper or dbus helper that just provides you the info? | 08:38 |
| huats | rickspencer3, and we'll work on your french ! you have a talk to give at the end of november ! | 08:39 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - possibly, if that's the best way to go :) | 08:39 |
| rickspencer3 | indeed! | 08:39 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - i was thinking of using the information shipped with app-install-data, but i probably need an extra field in the desktop files | 08:39 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: if you let me know what exactly you need, we (software-center guys) can provide it. well, instead of spawning a helper you could talk to the xapian db directly, depends really on what you need/want :) does your requirements include e.g. rating info? | 08:39 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - i'm not too concerned about ratings info | 08:39 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: extra field should be fine, what is it used for? | 08:39 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - we want to associate mimetypes to plugin packages, but the existing MimeType field isn't really appropriate for that as we don't want, eg, the adobe flashplugin to appear as a handler for local flash files | 08:42 |
| chrisccoulson | that wouldn't work, as there's not really an executable to handle that | 08:43 |
| chrisccoulson | so i was thinking of having an extra mimetype field just for browser plugin mimetypes | 08:43 |
| mvo | ok | 08:43 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo, does that make sense? :) | 08:45 |
| chrisccoulson | i just want to make sure that i'm not completely crazy ;) | 08:45 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: yeah, that sounds fine, we just need to make sure that the mime-type can be extracted sanely for the plugins. how many plugins are we actually talking about? | 08:48 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: didn't you guys pushed most of the plugins out of the archive previously? | 08:48 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - i'm not too sure, it's not many though. i think it's in the order of ~10 packages | 08:48 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - we pushed extensions out, but we still have browser plugins (eg, totem, flash, vlc etc) | 08:49 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: aha. ok. would be nice if we could integrate the plugin info query into the lp:app-archive code | 08:50 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: is there going to be a uds session about it? | 08:50 |
| chrisccoulson | mvo - i wasn't planning one. do you think we should have one? | 08:50 |
| mvo | chrisccoulson: not really, just wanted to double check :) | 08:51 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 08:51 |
| seif | rickspencer3, yo | 09:26 |
| seif | rickspencer3, before u do more work on stealth maybe we can merge it with bzr branch lp:activity-log-manager | 09:27 |
| seif | please try it out | 09:27 |
| chrisccoulson | gah, stupid ISP | 10:32 |
| chrisccoulson | and that's probably the worst time to discover that my 3G dongle doesn't work on oneiric | 10:33 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: tether from your phone, and use the usb-ethernet? | 10:33 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - that's what i've resorted to ;) | 10:33 |
| chrisccoulson | after trying to get my 3G dongle to work, but it's totally broken in oneiric :( | 10:33 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: your new machine doesn't have a builtin 3G and sim card? | 10:34 |
| pitti | sim card holder, anyway | 10:34 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - i think i saw a sim card holder when i took the whole thing apart last week | 10:34 |
| chrisccoulson | i didn't actually think about sticking my sim card in it though | 10:34 |
| chrisccoulson | perhaps i should try | 10:34 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: the builtin antenna of my laptop is some ten times better than an usb stick (and takes much less power, too) | 10:35 |
| asac_ | hola gents! didrocks on the road? | 10:37 |
| asac_ | chrisccoulson: often laptops have an option for an internal 3g modem and have a null-op sim card slot. what does lsusb show you? | 10:38 |
| ogra_ | get an ac100 ! :) | 10:38 |
| pitti | asac_: he's in Orlando already | 10:38 |
| asac_ | pitti: hi. thats what i thought. will try to catch him later then. thanks | 10:38 |
| chrisccoulson | asac_, yeah, mine doesn't actually have any 3g hardware. i need to buy one of these - http://search.dell.co.uk/1/2/128267-mobile-broadband-internal-dell-wireless-5540-card-3g-hsdpa-sim-not-included-kit.html | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | which i'm tempted to | 10:39 |
| chrisccoulson | it can't be any more difficult to install than the bluetooth module i fitted last week | 10:39 |
| asac_ | chrisccoulson: http://www.amazon.co.uk/WIRELESS-5540-Broadband-MiniPCI-Mini-Card/dp/B0047TG568 | 10:40 |
| asac_ | that one is cheaper | 10:40 |
| asac_ | not sure if it fits, but i would think :) | 10:40 |
| asac_ | might even be the same. anyway. that thing will work great from what i can tell | 10:40 |
| asac_ | and you would have strong signal with your laptop antenna | 10:40 |
| ogra_ | 4x that price and you have an ac100 :P | 10:40 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 10:41 |
| asac_ | ogra_: but the horse power is really bad in an ac100. i doubt our mozilla man can use one of these to do anything :) | 10:41 |
| chrisccoulson | i wonder why the one on amazon is so much cheaper | 10:41 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 10:41 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i've had to upgrade to 8GB of RAM now ;) | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | asac_, well, he would have to use chromium :P | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | chromium flies here :) | 10:42 |
| chrisccoulson | does the ac100 have that much? | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | it has 512M plus 256M zram plus the swap you grant it :) | 10:42 |
| asac_ | ogra_: i dont think chromium can build on that machine without loads of swap | 10:42 |
| ogra_ | asac_, yeah, building is another issue indeed :) | 10:42 |
| chrisccoulson | you really need 8GB to build chromium if you want to be able to do something else at the same time ;) | 10:42 |
| * ogra_ just got a second ac100 :) | 10:43 | |
| ogra_ | so i can do other stuff at *full speed* on one while the other compiles ;) | 10:44 |
| ogra_ | (full speed being 1GHz indeed ;) ) | 10:44 |
| chrisccoulson | i really need to get some arm hardware, so i can try and figure out why firefox sucks so much on it ;) | 10:47 |
| chrisccoulson | but jo would really kill me if i spent any more money | 10:47 |
| chrisccoulson | i've spent way too much recently | 10:47 |
| ogra_ | expense it :) | 10:47 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 10:47 |
| ogra_ | its for your work | 10:47 |
| chrisccoulson | i'll ask jason at UDS ;) | 10:48 |
| ogra_ | everyone in canonical should have any arm HW in the long term | 10:48 |
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| * rodrigo_ lunch | 11:46 | |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, internet is still down | 12:19 |
| chrisccoulson | i think i'm going to have to call my ISP in a minute | 12:19 |
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| mvo | is it just me or can tomboy no longer sync with ubuntuone ? I hit bug #875999 it seems | 12:21 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 875999 in tomboy "cannot synchronise with ubuntuone in spite of success..." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/875999 | 12:21 |
| chrisccoulson | ah, "There is currently an outage affecting the Midlands" | 12:47 |
| chrisccoulson | from the nice support guy from my ISP | 12:48 |
| Laney | mvo: I think there is a bug around the sensitivity of that button... if you type something in the box to make Save active and then authorize with U1, does it work? | 12:49 |
| * Laney thought someone was going to look at that | 12:49 | |
| mvo | Laney: aha, nice, let me try that | 12:52 |
| mvo | Laney: I found a helpful soul in #ubuntuone, lets hope he will come up with a good solution, but indeed, it looks like its just the button not being sensitive | 12:52 |
| mterry | mvo, yeah, try http: instead of https: | 12:52 |
| Laney | it should be made sensitive on a successful authentication | 12:52 |
| mvo | mterry: ha! thanks, that did the trick | 12:54 |
| Laney | does it all work if you just change that? | 12:55 |
| Laney | sensitivity and eeverything? | 12:55 |
| mterry | Laney, for me, yeah | 12:55 |
| Laney | i mean, the button becoming active isn't just a side effect of you changing something in the textarea? | 12:55 |
| Laney | (if correct, sruing that change would be a good idea) | 12:57 |
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| mvo | Laney: it seems like its enough to just change the field, indeed | 13:24 |
| Laney | then authentication needs to be fixed to make the button sensitive correctly | 13:24 |
| Laney | when it returns successfully | 13:24 |
| mvo | sync does still not work for me, but its a different problem now | 13:25 |
| mvo | 10/24/2011 15:26:00 [ERROR]: Synchronization failed with the following exception: Collection was modified; enumeration operation may not execute. | 13:26 |
| mvo | *sigh* | 13:26 |
| Laney | :( | 13:26 |
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| jbicha | Laney: where can I find existing packageset descriptions? | 13:39 |
| Laney | we don't exactly have them yet | 13:39 |
| Laney | it is a new change we are trying to introduce | 13:40 |
| Laney | to make things more equitable | 13:40 |
| Laney | so how do you define what is a part of GNOME? write that down | 13:41 |
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| jbicha | Laney: the simple idea I had in mind was the GNOME packages that weren't already in main | 13:41 |
| Laney | right | 13:41 |
| Laney | what is a GNOME package? | 13:41 |
| jbicha | and GNOME packages generally are hosted on git.gnome.org | 13:42 |
| Laney | part of the gnome release moduleset? | 13:42 |
| jbicha | Bugzilla splits packages into Core, Applications, and Other | 13:42 |
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| Laney | something that can be extracted from http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/releng/3.2.1/ ? | 13:44 |
| Laney | with reference to the ubuntu-desktop set | 13:44 |
| jbicha | Core & Applications definitely are part of GNOME, Other is a very big category with some stuff that is only loosely associated with GNOME & some stuff that maybe should be bumped to Applicatiosn | 13:45 |
| jbicha | https://bugzilla.gnome.org/enter_bug.cgi | 13:45 |
| jbicha | gnome-tweak-tool & tracker in particular aren't in the release modules | 13:48 |
| jbicha | well, tracker is in as a dependency of gnome-documents | 13:49 |
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| dobey | jbicha: there are "external dependencies" that aren't necessarily part of the gnome release, but are things which gnome does need | 14:06 |
| dobey | jbicha: and if you mean "other" as it is on bugzilla, i wouldn't bother with that as a special thing. "other" there just means "all the other random stuff in bugzilla and hosted on gnome.org, but which isn't necessarily anything in gnome or used by gnome" | 14:11 |
| jbicha | I think the question is how narrow do we want the desktop-extra set to be defined | 14:13 |
| dobey | jbicha: getting gnome release team to actually define modulests in https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointThree is probably the way to get a proper list | 14:14 |
| dobey | jbicha: it still says "(To do)" on the 3.2 page as well :-/ | 14:14 |
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| jbicha | hmm, I wonder how well this works: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntu-gs-remix/ | 14:30 |
| jbicha | description: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Ubuntu-GNOME-Shell-Remix-74925.shtml | 14:30 |
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| bjsnider | anybody can do that after they install | 14:33 |
| jjardon | dobey, jbicha: you can use this list for now: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/Template | 14:56 |
| jjardon | kenvandine: if you have some spare time: https://launchpad.net/indicator-power/trunk/0.10 | 14:59 |
| * kenvandine looks | 15:00 | |
| hallyn | hm, indicator-multiload is taking 22% cpu. that seems like a lot to watch my cpu load sit at 6.6 :) | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | jjardon, 0.10 meant for a oneiric SRU or for upload to precise? | 15:03 |
| jjardon | kenvandine: It would be good to have the update in Oneiric | 15:04 |
| jjardon | dobey, jbicha: indeed, this is the canonical list of core modules http://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/GNOME/teams/releng/3.2.1/versions | 15:42 |
| pitti | good night everyone! | 16:03 |
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| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, you around? | 19:01 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: yep | 19:05 |
| chrisccoulson | hi cyphermox | 19:06 |
| chrisccoulson | so, my ADSL decided to die today, which isn't normally a problem, as i can just plug in my 3G dongle | 19:06 |
| chrisccoulson | however | 19:06 |
| cyphermox | doesn't work? | 19:06 |
| chrisccoulson | i plugged that in today (for the first time on oneiric), and it doesn't work :( | 19:06 |
| cyphermox | doh | 19:06 |
| cyphermox | does it get seen by NM at all? | 19:06 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, yeah. i even get a notification from notify-osd to say it's connected, but it isn't actually connected really | 19:07 |
| cyphermox | ok | 19:07 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, this is what i see in my syslog when i plug it in - | 19:07 |
| cyphermox | what model is that? | 19:07 |
| chrisccoulson | http://paste.ubuntu.com/718149/ | 19:07 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, according to lsusb: | 19:08 |
| chrisccoulson | Bus 002 Device 014: ID 12d1:1001 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd. E620 USB Modem | 19:08 |
| cyphermox | so far it's normal | 19:08 |
| cyphermox | do you have logs for when you click the connection to activate it? | 19:08 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, i'm not sure what to click to activate it. i've got mobile broadband enabled in nm-applet, and in the "Mobile Broadband" section of the menu, i have an inactive entry "O2 - UK UMTS", which is the connection i want :) | 19:09 |
| chrisccoulson | but i can't activate it ;) | 19:10 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: can't activate because it's insensitive or because that's what fails? | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, it's insensitive | 19:16 |
| cyphermox | interesting | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | although, there is an entry to create a new connection, where i have to enter all my provider information | 19:16 |
| chrisccoulson | but that doesn't work anyway, and i've never needed to do that before | 19:16 |
| cyphermox | edit the connection, in case it's somehow pointing to a different device? | 19:17 |
| cyphermox | I mean, any further logs for NM or MM would help, but what you already pasted is basically normal behavior when a device has just been connected | 19:18 |
| chrisccoulson | hmm, there currently isn't a connection listed for it | 19:18 |
| cyphermox | then it's probably fine as "any device" | 19:18 |
| chrisccoulson | hmmm, it's connected now, which it didn't do when i created a connection earlier :/ | 19:19 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, how come i need to manually create the connection now? i don't remember having to do that in the past | 19:19 |
| chrisccoulson | or perhaps i did, but just forgot about it ;) | 19:20 |
| cyphermox | then one that got connected is the new one you created? | 19:20 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i've just created a connection, and that seems to have connected | 19:20 |
| chrisccoulson | 1 second, will just remove my cell phone to make sure it works | 19:20 |
| cyphermox | my guess is that the old one was converted from 11.04/ NM0.8 and that conversion failed for that connection | 19:20 |
| cyphermox | the thing is now they're probably called the same, but if not and you can ship me the file from /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections then I can probably have one more hint as to what fails with these conversions | 19:22 |
| chrisccoulson_ | ok, seems to work | 19:22 |
| chrisccoulson_ | you want the connection from /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections? | 19:23 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i don't think there's anything private in there - http://paste.ubuntu.com/718174/ | 19:23 |
| chrisccoulson_ | i hope not ;) | 19:23 |
| chrisccoulson_ | "password=password" | 19:23 |
| chrisccoulson_ | :) | 19:23 |
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| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: no, most isps just use such stupid passwords ;) | 19:27 |
| cyphermox | chrisccoulson: the other is also O2 or "O2 1"? | 19:27 |
| chrisccoulson | cyphermox, oh, i deleted the other connection (the one which failed) | 19:28 |
| chrisccoulson | i guess that's no use ;) | 19:28 |
| cyphermox | oh, that's the one I wanted to see ;) | 19:29 |
| cyphermox | oh well | 19:29 |
| chrisccoulson | heh | 19:29 |
| chrisccoulson | sorry ;) | 19:29 |
| cyphermox | but you're right, you shouldn't have had to create a new one | 19:29 |
| cyphermox | but the NM0.8 to NM0.9 was kind of rough, although I tested a few different connection types and it worked for me | 19:30 |
| cyphermox | I can't remember if I had a 3G connection though :/ | 19:30 |
| cyphermox | that said, it's so simple it should have just worked... but I think it largely borked because of gconf more than anything else | 19:31 |
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| TheMuso | Wow, not many desktop sessions on the schedule so far, but I am only up to Tuesday. | 21:18 |
| RAOF | Time for me to subscribe to all the interesting ones! | 21:30 |
| RAOF | That's *totally awesome*! | 21:45 |
| seb128 | RAOF, hey | 21:46 |
| seb128 | that being? | 21:46 |
| RAOF | How gnome-shell handles GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE. | 21:46 |
| RAOF | Hey seb128! | 21:47 |
| seb128 | RAOF, how is it going? | 21:47 |
| RAOF | Alright. | 21:47 |
| RAOF | I'm going to try a mad crazy hack for that fn-f7 bug. It'll be awesome. | 21:48 |
| broder | RAOF: i don't know if you noticed, but i found a few odd things about the fn-f7 stuff | 21:49 |
| RAOF | Almost as awesome as gnome-shell refusing to start when a dual-head display is set up with > MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE, but it's quite happy to set that up while running :) | 21:49 |
| broder | first is that i see a keypress event coming in on both the ACPI "Video Bus" and the keyboard device | 21:49 |
| RAOF | broder: That sounds like chrisccoulson's bug? | 21:50 |
| broder | oh, you're working on a different fn-f7 bug? | 21:50 |
| RAOF | Yeah, one which turns out to (proabably) be our old friend, Mr Disabling Outputs With Gnome-RR Sometimes Makes Things Weird. | 21:52 |
| broder | oh, ok. i hadn't associated that with being a fn-f7 bug, but sure. anyway, i'm looking forward to the solution | 21:53 |
| RAOF | Well, hitting fn-f7 will take you through the codepaths that do the disable everything, now re-enable everything dance. | 21:54 |
| TheMuso | Right, first run through of schedule complete. There are many empty slots atm, so will have to do another run through on Friday I suspect. | 22:16 |
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| === eeejay_is_afk is now known as eeejay | ||
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