| dholbach | good morning | 07:07 |
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| paultag | moin moin alle | 13:08 |
| nigelb | Morning paultag | 13:43 |
| paultag | nigelb: howdy | 13:49 |
| === Ronnie1 is now known as Ronnie | ||
| locodir-user | i want to donwload ubuntu os source code how should i do this? | 19:23 |
| paultag | locodir-user: hehe | 19:24 |
| paultag | locodir-user: of what package? | 19:24 |
| paultag | locodir-user: ubuntu it's self is more like a collection of software then just a single big block of software | 19:24 |
| paultag | locodir-user: if you know what you want the code for, you can download it with apt-get source | 19:24 |
| paultag | it's a legal requirement that it's all there for you to examine as you wish | 19:25 |
| locodir-user | ya developing purpose | 19:25 |
| paultag | locodir-user: what software do you wish to look at? | 19:25 |
| locodir-user | full Operating system... | 19:25 |
| locodir-user | eg: ubuntu 10.10 | 19:26 |
| paultag | locodir-user: you understand that's not a valid request - you might be able to download all the package tarballs, but that's a bit silly | 19:26 |
| paultag | locodir-user: what component of Ubuntu? | 19:26 |
| paultag | Ubuntu it's self is a collection | 19:26 |
| paultag | don't think of it like a single block | 19:26 |
| paultag | because it's not :) | 19:26 |
| paultag | the kernel, X server, login manager, window manager, DE | 19:26 |
| paultag | userland, sound system, blah blah | 19:27 |
| paultag | there's far too much | 19:27 |
| paultag | locodir-user: which bit of software would you like to examine? | 19:27 |
| locodir-user | ok..i didn't know so much about this... | 19:27 |
| paultag | ah | 19:27 |
| paultag | locodir-user: what are you trying to do, perhaps I can suggest something? | 19:27 |
| locodir-user | i wanted to study os... | 19:28 |
| paultag | locodir-user: again - the kernel? | 19:28 |
| paultag | locodir-user: like the thing that talks with hardware | 19:28 |
| paultag | an OS is very large | 19:28 |
| paultag | you need to be a bit more exact | 19:28 |
| locodir-user | ya...i think kernel will be appropriate... | 19:28 |
| paultag | locodir-user: apt-get source linux-image-386 | 19:29 |
| paultag | or $ARCH if you have a different arch | 19:29 |
| paultag | you may also find it here - http://kernel.org/ | 19:29 |
| paultag | locodir-user: there are other smaller kernels as well, such as Minix, and also BSD kernels. I wrote one that's very simple, if you'd like that as well | 19:29 |
| paultag | Linux is very large, and it sounds like you don't know too much about OS design | 19:30 |
| paultag | perhaps some reading on Minix might help | 19:30 |
| paultag | locodir-user: I suggest this book - http://www.pearsonhighered.com/educator/academic/product/0,,0131429388,00%2ben-USS_01DBC.html | 19:30 |
| paultag | it helped me a lot | 19:30 |
| locodir-user | and if i need to download other package how should i do it? | 19:30 |
| paultag | locodir-user: which other package? | 19:31 |
| locodir-user | anything as u told above | 19:31 |
| paultag | locodir-user: linux is the only kernel in the Ubuntu repos, alt kernels such as FreeBSD's kernel may be found in Debian, but most may be found on their respective websitees | 19:31 |
| locodir-user | should i need to use everytime command for it? | 19:31 |
| paultag | Ubuntu does not host this software because we don't use it | 19:32 |
| paultag | locodir-user: yeah, you'll need to request them all on their own - remember, each is it's own project | 19:32 |
| paultag | I think you misunderstand what Ubuntu is :) | 19:32 |
| locodir-user | but how can i know that i m downloading source code and not software? | 19:33 |
| paultag | locodir-user: you must read the descriptions :) | 19:33 |
| paultag | most of the time it'll be labeled | 19:34 |
| paultag | and if not, you can guess based on if it has a march version tag or not | 19:34 |
| paultag | unless it's python, in which case it don't matter anyway :) | 19:34 |
| paultag | or $RUNTIME_LANGUAGE_HERE | 19:34 |
| locodir-user | is there any place where i can find all this detail? | 19:35 |
| paultag | not really, no | 19:35 |
| locodir-user | are u developer ? | 19:35 |
| paultag | locodir-user: this is more of a generic F/OSS question rather then an Ubuntu one | 19:35 |
| paultag | locodir-user: yes, I am, in fact | 19:35 |
| locodir-user | i m really interested to do developing but i m not understanding where should i start can u show me path? | 19:36 |
| paultag | locodir-user: what languages can you program in? | 19:36 |
| locodir-user | c , c++ ,java | 19:37 |
| paultag | locodir-user: pick some software you like and fix bugs :) | 19:37 |
| locodir-user | but i never developed software on that? | 19:37 |
| paultag | on what? | 19:38 |
| locodir-user | pick software means from current os or my own idea? | 19:38 |
| paultag | locodir-user: current OS, if you don't know where to start it might be hard to, well, start :) | 19:39 |
| paultag | but since all C, C++ and Java is basically the same (with minor changes in headers) - it should be a snap for you | 19:39 |
| paultag | just read up on POSIX guidelines and have at it | 19:39 |
| locodir-user | ok...if i select something in multimedia like image viewer then... | 19:41 |
| locodir-user | i think u gone? | 19:43 |
| paultag | nah, I'm here | 19:43 |
| paultag | I was waiting for you to finish your sentince | 19:43 |
| paultag | but that's OK. Multimedia stuff is good | 19:43 |
| paultag | it can be hard, but it's good | 19:43 |
| akgraner | The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: | 19:44 |
| akgraner | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue238 | 19:44 |
| paultag | akgraner: woohoo! ^5 :) | 19:45 |
| paultag | thank you :) | 19:45 |
| akgraner | as always - we have a great news team anyone wanting to help pop into ubuntu-news - we can get you started | 19:45 |
| locodir-user | hello is any developer here. | 19:46 |
| locodir-user | hello | 19:46 |
| locodir-user | is any developer present? | 19:47 |
| locodir-user | hello | 19:47 |
| paultag | oh dang | 19:48 |
| paultag | I help someone for a minute and he ragequits | 19:48 |
| paultag | 3 minutes I'm gone | 19:49 |
| mhall119 | paultag: you should ragehelp people from now on | 20:01 |
| czajkowski | aloha | 20:12 |
| mhall119 | morning czajkowski | 20:34 |
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