[07:07] good morning [13:08] moin moin alle [13:43] Morning paultag [13:49] nigelb: howdy === Ronnie1 is now known as Ronnie [19:23] i want to donwload ubuntu os source code how should i do this? [19:24] locodir-user: hehe [19:24] locodir-user: of what package? [19:24] locodir-user: ubuntu it's self is more like a collection of software then just a single big block of software [19:24] locodir-user: if you know what you want the code for, you can download it with apt-get source [19:25] it's a legal requirement that it's all there for you to examine as you wish [19:25] ya developing purpose [19:25] locodir-user: what software do you wish to look at? [19:25] full Operating system... [19:26] eg: ubuntu 10.10 [19:26] locodir-user: you understand that's not a valid request - you might be able to download all the package tarballs, but that's a bit silly [19:26] locodir-user: what component of Ubuntu? [19:26] Ubuntu it's self is a collection [19:26] don't think of it like a single block [19:26] because it's not :) [19:26] the kernel, X server, login manager, window manager, DE [19:27] userland, sound system, blah blah [19:27] there's far too much [19:27] locodir-user: which bit of software would you like to examine? [19:27] ok..i didn't know so much about this... [19:27] ah [19:27] locodir-user: what are you trying to do, perhaps I can suggest something? [19:28] i wanted to study os... [19:28] locodir-user: again - the kernel? [19:28] locodir-user: like the thing that talks with hardware [19:28] an OS is very large [19:28] you need to be a bit more exact [19:28] ya...i think kernel will be appropriate... [19:29] locodir-user: apt-get source linux-image-386 [19:29] or $ARCH if you have a different arch [19:29] you may also find it here - http://kernel.org/ [19:29] locodir-user: there are other smaller kernels as well, such as Minix, and also BSD kernels. I wrote one that's very simple, if you'd like that as well [19:30] Linux is very large, and it sounds like you don't know too much about OS design [19:30] perhaps some reading on Minix might help [19:30] locodir-user: I suggest this book - http://www.pearsonhighered.com/educator/academic/product/0,,0131429388,00%2ben-USS_01DBC.html [19:30] it helped me a lot [19:30] and if i need to download other package how should i do it? [19:31] locodir-user: which other package? [19:31] anything as u told above [19:31] locodir-user: linux is the only kernel in the Ubuntu repos, alt kernels such as FreeBSD's kernel may be found in Debian, but most may be found on their respective websitees [19:31] should i need to use everytime command for it? [19:32] Ubuntu does not host this software because we don't use it [19:32] locodir-user: yeah, you'll need to request them all on their own - remember, each is it's own project [19:32] I think you misunderstand what Ubuntu is :) [19:33] but how can i know that i m downloading source code and not software? [19:33] locodir-user: you must read the descriptions :) [19:34] most of the time it'll be labeled [19:34] and if not, you can guess based on if it has a march version tag or not [19:34] unless it's python, in which case it don't matter anyway :) [19:34] or $RUNTIME_LANGUAGE_HERE [19:35] is there any place where i can find all this detail? [19:35] not really, no [19:35] are u developer ? [19:35] locodir-user: this is more of a generic F/OSS question rather then an Ubuntu one [19:35] locodir-user: yes, I am, in fact [19:36] i m really interested to do developing but i m not understanding where should i start can u show me path? [19:36] locodir-user: what languages can you program in? [19:37] c , c++ ,java [19:37] locodir-user: pick some software you like and fix bugs :) [19:37] but i never developed software on that? [19:38] on what? [19:38] pick software means from current os or my own idea? [19:39] locodir-user: current OS, if you don't know where to start it might be hard to, well, start :) [19:39] but since all C, C++ and Java is basically the same (with minor changes in headers) - it should be a snap for you [19:39] just read up on POSIX guidelines and have at it [19:41] ok...if i select something in multimedia like image viewer then... [19:43] i think u gone? [19:43] nah, I'm here [19:43] I was waiting for you to finish your sentince [19:43] but that's OK. Multimedia stuff is good [19:43] it can be hard, but it's good [19:44] The new edition of the Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter is now available here: [19:44] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue238 [19:45] akgraner: woohoo! ^5 :) [19:45] thank you :) [19:45] as always - we have a great news team anyone wanting to help pop into ubuntu-news - we can get you started [19:46] hello is any developer here. [19:46] hello [19:47] is any developer present? [19:47] hello [19:48] oh dang [19:48] I help someone for a minute and he ragequits [19:49] 3 minutes I'm gone [20:01] paultag: you should ragehelp people from now on [20:12] aloha [20:34] morning czajkowski