| dholbach | good morning | 07:07 |
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| geser | good morning | 07:09 |
| nigelb | Morning geser! | 07:09 |
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| Laney | hiya | 08:33 |
| Rhonda | cjwatson: thanks :D | 10:15 |
| * cjwatson processes queues ... eventually | 10:16 | |
| Laney | this is the uk, we likes a good queue over here | 10:21 |
| Rhonda | sure, because queueing means crowd means less cold wind directly around you | 10:24 |
| * Rhonda shivers when looking outside, and I'm in vienna | 10:25 | |
| cjwatson | it's quite nice out at the moment actually | 10:30 |
| cjwatson | or it was yesterday anyway, haven't been out yet today :) | 10:30 |
| Laney | gloves, no hat, improvement on the end of last week | 10:31 |
| Laney | still wearing gloves in the office too as the heating is broken… | 10:31 |
| Laney | the annual estates-office-try-and-fail-to-fix-the-heating-and-end-up-providing-a-space-heater has begun :-) | 10:32 |
| Rhonda | yeah, the cold season always comes unexpected, year after year | 10:34 |
| Rhonda | Total by surprise, snow starts falling and the street cleaning companies aren't prepared at all. | 10:34 |
| Rhonda | "same procedure as every year" | 10:35 |
| Laney | last year I was on crutches for the winter. that was interesting. | 10:36 |
| Laney | http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/washingup.png | 10:38 |
| tumbleweed | lol | 10:40 |
| nigelb | heh | 10:41 |
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| geser | Laney: wouldn't it have been easier to use the dish washer next to you? | 11:09 |
| Laney | can't put it all in there sadly | 11:09 |
| arand | Has most of testing been synced yet, or is the process ongoing for pp? | 11:14 |
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| tumbleweed | arand: everything that hasn't been modified in Ubuntu has been auto-synced from testing. Everything else needs to be done by hand | 11:15 |
| arand | tumbleweed: Including new packages? | 11:16 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, those also need manual review | 11:16 |
| cjwatson | I've synced a lot of new packages | 11:17 |
| cjwatson | there are some left; ask me if you have specific requests | 11:17 |
| * StevenK gets mail-bombed by cjwatson. | 11:21 | |
| cjwatson | ? | 11:21 |
| StevenK | cjwatson: I'm subscribed to ubuntu-archive | 11:21 |
| cjwatson | ah, right | 11:21 |
| arand | Ok, I may do some further poking in Debian before requesting a sync, (fix game fullscreening and trapping user), before requesting sync. Thanks for the info!, I wasn't sure how things went. | 11:23 |
| tumbleweed | arand: once it's in, it'll continue to automatically sync until Debian Import Freeze | 11:25 |
| arand | Ah, right, well if you have the time to sync "lugaru"... I'll just file a sync request otherwise, being a game it may not be the highest priority :) | 11:38 |
| cjwatson | arand: lugaru isn't in testing | 11:42 |
| cjwatson | oh, wait, it is, contrib | 11:42 |
| arand | Yeah, it's one of these contrib/non-free things | 11:43 |
| arand | lugaru-data being in non-free due to non-commercial restrictions. | 11:44 |
| cjwatson | arand: OK, I've synced both | 11:46 |
| arand | cjwatson: Thanks! :) | 11:46 |
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| koolhead17 | hello all | 14:05 |
| koolhead17 | i am following a pkgupdate guide and am stuff with this error when i run debuild -S -sa http://paste.ubuntu.com/717854/ help would be appriciated | 14:08 |
| cjwatson | koolhead17: I'm guessing, but perhaps you need to install (and build-depend on) libtool | 14:13 |
| koolhead17 | cjwatson: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/HandsOn am following this | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | I don't need to know that | 14:14 |
| cjwatson | unless the specific package you're working on is named there | 14:14 |
| * koolhead17 installs libtool | 14:14 | |
| koolhead17 | cjwatson: so dependency will differ per pkg? | 14:15 |
| cjwatson | yes | 14:16 |
| cjwatson | 'sudo apt-get build-dep PACKAGENAME' gets you all its build-dependencies | 14:16 |
| cjwatson | usually you don't need those just to build a source package (-S), but now and again you need some of them | 14:17 |
| cjwatson | well, at least you usually don't need them *all* - debhelper, autoconf, automake, libtool, cdbs, autotools-dev, quilt are commonly-required ones | 14:18 |
| koolhead17 | cjwatson: thanks. am installing all the deps to be on safer side | 14:20 |
| micahg | if the package isn't in the archive or has new dependencies, you can use sudo mk-build-deps -i -r | 14:23 |
| koolhead17 | micahg: i pulled pkg from launchpad and making changed to it so it will not have dep issue now | 14:24 |
| koolhead17 | cjwatson: micahg thanks!! Its getting build!1 :) | 14:38 |
| Laney | excuse me DMBers | 14:43 |
| Laney | !dmb | 14:43 |
| ubottu | The Developer Membership Board handles applications for new developer privileges. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/ApplicationProcess for more details. For DMB attention, try !dmb-ping. | 14:43 |
| Laney | !dmb-ping | 14:43 |
| ubottu | bdrung, cody-somerville, persia, Laney, micahg, geser, tumbleweed, stgraber: DMB ping | 14:43 |
| Laney | hah | 14:43 |
| koolhead17 | Laney: :P | 14:43 |
| micahg | \o/ talk about fast turnaround :) | 14:44 |
| stgraber | ok, that seems to work :) | 14:44 |
| koolhead17 | i also need to have "Could not find a signing program (pgp or gpg)! " :D | 14:45 |
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| tumbleweed | koolhead17: that's not necessary for building, just uploading | 14:46 |
| tumbleweed | debuild's -uc -us options turn off signing (which make building a lot less annoying :P | 14:47 |
| koolhead17 | tumbleweed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/717883/ | 14:47 |
| koolhead17 | ooh ok | 14:47 |
| koolhead17 | :P | 14:47 |
| * Laney has that in DEBUILD_DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_OPTS | 14:48 | |
| koolhead17 | tumbleweed: debuild -S -sa am using currently | 14:48 |
| Laney | cjwatson: do your backport scripts handle backports from other pockets? (-security) | 14:49 |
| * Laney wonders if broder managed to write that script | 14:49 | |
| koolhead17 | tumbleweed: debuild -S -uc -us will do it for me? | 14:49 |
| jdstrand | he did not as of a week or two ago | 14:49 |
| jdstrand | Laney: ^ | 14:49 |
| tumbleweed | koolhead17: if you need -sa, include it | 14:50 |
| Laney | ah ok | 14:50 |
| * Laney further wonders if jdstrand has a highlight on "security" :P | 14:50 | |
| cjwatson | Laney: should do, yes | 14:50 |
| cjwatson | Laney: most of the logic is in lp:ubuntu-archive-tools backport.py | 14:50 |
| Laney | righto | 14:50 |
| jdstrand | I'll never tell | 14:50 |
| cjwatson | elif '-' in options.fromsuite: | 14:50 |
| cjwatson | options.fromseries, options.frompocket = options.fromsuite.split('-', 1) | 14:50 |
| cjwatson | options.fromseries = options.fromdistro.getSeries( | 14:50 |
| cjwatson | name_or_version=options.fromseries) | 14:50 |
| cjwatson | options.frompocket = options.frompocket.title() | 14:50 |
| koolhead17 | tumbleweed: but that results into asking 4 gnupg which i dont want | 14:50 |
| cjwatson | I think you must be confusing -sa with either -uc or -us | 14:51 |
| tumbleweed | koolhead17: -sa is unrelated, it means you want to include the .orig.tar.gz in the changes file | 14:51 |
| koolhead17 | tumbleweed: ok. | 14:52 |
| * koolhead17 read man page soon. :) | 14:52 | |
| Laney | dholbach: can you accept blueprints for uds-p? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-developer-application-processes | 15:09 |
| dholbach | I don't think I can | 15:10 |
| koolhead17 | Riddell: around? | 15:10 |
| dholbach | Laney, I don't know - is it ~ubuntu-drivers who can? | 15:11 |
| Laney | I think there has never been a thing about which I know less than this | 15:11 |
| Laney | ;-) | 15:11 |
| Riddell | hi koolhead17 | 15:11 |
| Laney | I thought you were The Guy this time | 15:11 |
| micahg | Laney: there should be a uds-organizers team I think | 15:12 |
| Laney | it's alright stgraber can do it | 15:12 |
| Laney | :-) | 15:12 |
| stgraber | Laney: done | 15:14 |
| Laney | cheers boss | 15:14 |
| Laney | now subscribe! | 15:14 |
| * micahg already did :) | 15:14 | |
| Laney | excellentium | 15:14 |
| micahg | which # element is that again? | 15:15 |
| * tumbleweed is guessing there isn't enough interest in a "what to do about motu" session? (ok, interest isn't the right idea, but possible input that could be discussed in a UDS session) | 15:15 | |
| * Laney force-subscribes everyone else | 15:15 | |
| Laney | tumbleweed: pub session | 15:15 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: yeah that happens anyway :) | 15:15 |
| Laney | I suspect the crowd for such a session would be smaller than it might have been previously :( | 15:15 |
| tumbleweed | in fact, I think it was the first think both ScottK and persia asked me when I first met them | 15:15 |
| tumbleweed | s/think/thing/ | 15:16 |
| ScottK | Call it a MOTU BOF session. | 15:16 |
| ScottK | Try and get interested people together and see where it goes. | 15:16 |
| ScottK | This was good for the backports sessions that last few UDS. | 15:16 |
| tumbleweed | that works | 15:18 |
| Laney | As long as the leader doesn't let it turn into a hand wringing session | 15:18 |
| Laney | also, unicode problems when I try to write the lp-udd output to a file | 15:18 |
| * tumbleweed clearly isn't good at achieving that | 15:18 | |
| Laney | python will be the death of me | 15:18 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: you have to specifically encode it (or open your file with the open from codecs) | 15:19 |
| Laney | i have .encode('utf-8') | 15:19 |
| Laney | let me try that codecs thingy | 15:20 |
| tumbleweed | it's equivalent | 15:20 |
| tumbleweed | can I see source & exception? | 15:21 |
| Laney | i put unicode() round stuff | 15:21 |
| Laney | yeah ok | 15:21 |
| Laney | http://paste.debian.net/139446/ http://paste.debian.net/139447/ | 15:23 |
| Laney | i was going to implement some way of not opening and closing the file every time if that worked | 15:23 |
| tumbleweed | well, I proposed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-p-motu-bof I'll try and think of some things for us to discuss if it looks like it's heading towards hand wringing | 15:23 |
| Laney | rock | 15:23 |
| tumbleweed | Laney: you can't print unicode objects unless you are in a UTF-8 locale and running in a terminal (yes that last thing is insanely unexpected) | 15:24 |
| Laney | i only added that unicode() stuff because it broke | 15:24 |
| Laney | what do i need to do instead? :( | 15:24 |
| tumbleweed | that tprint is substituting byte strings into a unicode string, and thus it's unicode | 15:24 |
| tumbleweed | either explicitly encode all output, or tell python that the stdout encoding is UTF-8, no matter what | 15:25 |
| Laney | i thought .encode was me telling it that | 15:25 |
| tumbleweed | yes, but then you substituted it into a unicode string | 15:26 |
| Laney | so I can remove the u? | 15:26 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 15:26 |
| Laney | this scares me | 15:27 |
| Laney | tumbleweed: worked, cheers! | 15:34 |
| Laney | http://paste.debian.net/139449/ | 15:34 |
| * tumbleweed hopes to see the data in a UDD table soon | 15:34 | |
| tumbleweed | Original-Maintainer: N/A ? | 15:35 |
| tumbleweed | oh duh | 15:35 |
| Laney | hah, the Closes: list for workrave | 15:35 |
| * tumbleweed wishes we used null instead of N/A | 15:36 | |
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| micahg | ScottK: are you still approving backports? (will have at least one later this week hopefully) | 15:42 |
| ScottK | micahg: Yes. Feel free to ping me. | 15:42 |
| micahg | ScottK: thanks | 15:42 |
| stevecrozz | how can I tell pdebuild to build source-only (like debuild -S)? | 15:52 |
| yofel | stevecrozz: from what I know there is no point in running pdebuild for source packages | 15:56 |
| yofel | just run debuild | 15:56 |
| stevecrozz | yofel, this is for building a package for a distribution other than the one on my running system | 15:57 |
| yofel | well, pdebuild is about building binary packages. for the source-only part it simply runs debuild | 15:57 |
| cjwatson | In the fully general case you need to build source packages on the same distribution; but in very many cases (I'd say the vast majority) you can get away with building them on more or less any vaguely current Debian or Ubuntu system. | 16:00 |
| cjwatson | Sometimes you need the odd extra build-dep. | 16:00 |
| Laney | was https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/precise-changes/2011-October/000715.html a copyPackage sync? | 16:01 |
| Laney | it has spph.creator and yet a changesfile? | 16:01 |
| Laney | oh, bah, yo ucan get that for manual uploads too | 16:02 |
| tumbleweed | how? | 16:02 |
| Laney | dunno, but I checked on a dputted one I did and it has .creator | 16:03 |
| tumbleweed | hrm, the changes file wasn't signed. AA sync? | 16:03 |
| * Laney checks bugs | 16:03 | |
| tumbleweed | at any rate, *someone* did something wrong with it | 16:04 |
| Laney | yeah there it is | 16:04 |
| cjwatson | I did that with sync-source.py | 16:04 |
| Laney | was just looking at the massive Closes: list | 16:04 |
| cjwatson | that's because it was a reintroduction | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | so sync-source built a .changes with the equivalent of dpkg-genchanges -v0 | 16:05 |
| Laney | yep | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | but that was the only unusual thing about it; I'm not aware of having done anything wrong | 16:05 |
| tumbleweed | ah, no that's probably right, didn't realise it was a reintruduction | 16:05 |
| Laney | I just expected it to have -v<version that was deleted> | 16:06 |
| * tumbleweed wonders what a native sync would do in that situation | 16:06 | |
| Laney | the main argh is that I can't rely on .creator like I thought I could | 16:06 |
| koolhead17 | Riddell: how are you? | 16:07 |
| Laney | oh well | 16:07 |
| tumbleweed | wgrant: I thought .creator was *only* for syncs? | 16:07 |
| Riddell | koolhead17: I'm fine thanks | 16:15 |
| jussi | Laney: did you get notified of the factoid changes? | 16:48 |
| micahg | achiang: would you be able to help me with the armel FTBFS for chromium in precise? | 17:26 |
| achiang | micahg: possibly. what's up? :) | 17:27 |
| micahg | achiang: Error: branch out of range | 17:27 |
| micahg | achiang: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/83302810/buildlog_ubuntu-precise-armel.chromium-browser_14.0.835.202~r103287-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 17:27 |
| achiang | yikes | 17:27 |
| achiang | micahg: some googling on that failure shows that removing optimizations, specifically -O2, fixed the issue on MIPS | 17:37 |
| achiang | micahg: that might be an interesting place to start | 17:37 |
| koolhead11 | i am having one more issue | 17:38 |
| micahg | achiang: thanks | 17:38 |
| achiang | micahg: one sec | 17:39 |
| koolhead11 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/718047/ | 17:39 |
| achiang | micahg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/Thumb2PortingHowto | 17:40 |
| achiang | micahg: there's something on that page too, did you already find it? | 17:40 |
| micahg | oh, hmm, thought I read that page already | 17:41 |
| achiang | micahg: actually, it seems that using -Os might work | 17:42 |
| c_korn | hello, how can I debug DBUS? I have the problem if I open gedit with the dash and then run "gedit file" in the gnome-terminal that "file" gets opened in a new instance of gedit and not in a tab of the process I opened with dash before. and the gedit debug tells me "(gedit_dbus_run)" this is why I assume some problem inside of DBUS | 17:42 |
| koolhead11 | cjwatson: got few minutes | 17:42 |
| micahg | achiang: ok, I'll have to come back to this later, thanks for the help | 17:43 |
| achiang | micahg: i think that is the first step, try -Os instead of -O2 or -O1 | 17:43 |
| achiang | micahg: sure | 17:43 |
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| Laney | jussi: no | 18:27 |
| Laney | but i trust your editorship skills | 18:27 |
| jussi | Laney: wasnt me, but Pici. but still :) | 18:28 |
| jussi | Laney: also, no need for the "learn" | 18:28 |
| Laney | ok | 18:28 |
| Laney | where did i get that from? | 18:28 |
| jussi | Laney: some bots require it | 18:34 |
| Laney | probably the supybot we use for debian-cli | 18:34 |
| jtaylor | new packages are automacitally synced to precise or? (when in testing) | 19:04 |
| tumbleweed | semi-automatically. archive-admins review them | 19:05 |
| jtaylor | but one does not need to request it? | 19:06 |
| jtaylor | there are a couple of sync bugs for new packages, should I close them as invalid? | 19:06 |
| Laney | if you want it done right away | 19:06 |
| tumbleweed | or if they were removed and are being re-added or something | 19:07 |
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| Laney | lucas: can you apply this to udd: http://paste.debian.net/139534/ ? and alter the ubuntu_upload_history to add the component column (and set it to "N/A" for all existing rows)? | 20:32 |
| tumbleweed | components \o/ | 20:36 |
| === MrGando_ is now known as MrGando | ||
| cjwatson | jtaylor: sync bugs for new packages can be added to the ubuntu-archive queue; if it happens that I've already done them as part of my gradual bulk review, I'll close them myself | 21:47 |
| cjwatson | jtaylor: I don't mind us getting requests for queue-jumping though | 21:47 |
| Laney | crontab: installing new crontab | 22:55 |
| Laney | using the new lp gatherer now | 22:55 |
| * Laney expects angry emails in the morning when it breaks udd | 22:55 | |
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