[01:05] knome: congrats on the xubuntu team lead :) [02:22] micahg, i remember most of it, just sometimes forget some of the syntax for some of the bzr commands [02:23] i hope charlie doesn't feel bad :/ [04:35] acmeinc: you might need to just camp out here for a bit [04:35] im here [04:36] you were interested in helping with the site? [04:36] correct [04:36] cool [04:36] acmeinc: welcome :) [04:36] i was actually just reading the blueprint [04:36] nice [04:36] i was going to link that [04:36] looks like you've moved forward a bit [04:36] yup [04:36] we just cant easily 'fix' whats there [04:37] so, we are going to just implement the new site [04:37] cms based i would assume, or does ubuntu give a "theming" environemnt? [04:37] wordpress [04:37] easy enough [04:37] knome has set up a testing environment [04:38] may i ask why the current cant be updated? at elast for the time being [04:38] http://temp.knome.fi/ubuntustudio/wordpress/ [04:38] acmeinc: you sure can [04:39] not sure who you ask though [04:39] we dont have rights to it [04:39] thats pretty much why it cant [04:39] i see...new site looks nice...doesnt look like you need me :P [04:40] seems to just need content migrated/created [04:40] acmeinc: feel free to check out the blueprint and get envolved where you want :) [04:40] it would be great to just throw up a bandaid temporarily [04:40] im sure *someone* has access [04:40] and you could ask around [04:41] well the sooner content gets migrated the quicker ubuntu will approve the site id assume [04:41] yup [04:41] soo....what do you need from me, or, how can i help? [04:42] at http://temp.knome.fi/ubuntustudio/wordpress/ [04:42] there are pages [04:42] you can help me/us decide content [04:42] i was planning on loading up the old site [04:43] and weeding through it [04:43] putting up something for us to mess with soon [04:43] you can also ask knome for the wordpress admin rights there as that staging site [04:43] and just go for it yourself [04:43] ok...well this doesnt seem very hard to get a "working" clone up that is at least an actual legit site [04:44] if he could give me just posting rights, that should do, i can get content on the download page [04:44] acmeinc: you want to PM me your email? [04:44] its on the list, so its not private :P [04:44] tim@pghcomp.com [04:44] hehe [04:45] acmeinc: well, if you can hang here, go for it [04:46] i'm sure i'll see knome soon and ill pass on your email [04:46] if not, i'll just look harder for the email addy i cant find right now [04:46] ok cool...i have some ideas....mainly i really think the package list for each sub-distro of studio should be included. [04:47] you mean the meta-packages? [04:47] we might be changing that actually [04:47] @hostein, do you have anything to do with the actual dev of studio? [04:47] well, i have as much as anyone else really [04:47] like audio, graphics and video i mean holstein [04:47] im not a coding contributor [04:47] which is what we need [04:47] ScottL is the team lead [04:48] we have a few folks like knome that have come on since we moved to XFCE [04:48] which is exciting [04:48] ok not so much myself either, but, i have been using xfce with studio for quite some time now, didnt seem so hard to "merge" them [04:48] acmeinc: cool [04:48] yeah, we have plans to go with a live installer DVD [04:49] and have a different kind of task select [04:49] like 'workflows' [04:49] not so much experience with that unfortunately, but ive read about the blueprints [04:49] http://edubuntu.org/documentation/11.04/installation-guide#Edubuntu_Options_and_Partitioning_ [04:49] ^^ like edubuntu there [04:49] top right image i think [04:50] anyways, that sounds like documentation too acmeinc which is also something that needs to be discussed [04:50] right now, im pretty focused on the site [04:50] since that makes us look dormant [04:50] yea, i can dig on that. i am happy to write up some stuff [04:50] ScottL: I use bzr help quite often [04:51] acmeinc: well, we are glad you are here [06:35] holstein, thanks :) [07:16] hey acmeinc [07:16] acmeinc, i quickly saw you discussed the website with holstein earlier [09:03] MAN< debian processes and their tools are so damn retarded [09:04] I wonder how do they manage to use that [09:04] they are totally counter-intuitive and seem to be buggy too [09:05] and when I got throught it on the 8th try, I got "wait for an hour to find out if your bug report was submitted" [09:05] marvellous [12:11] good morning everyone :) [12:12] knome: are you intimately familiar with setting the theme in xubuntu or do you know who is? i would really like to get this progressed before we start the more laborous tasks for -lowlateny kernel and live dvd [12:13] knome: also, will it be possible to create new pages on the website once it is in place and live? will we have to go through security again? [12:14] hi shnatsel, do you think we shoud implement the live dvd seperately from the edubuntu user select/install components task? or should we do both at the same time? [12:15] shnatsel: i'm leaning towards getting the live dvd portion first [12:15] * scott-work may ask in #edubuntu-devel about this [12:15] scott-work: I'm not sure where it should reside, I haven't really seen Ubiquity for a year already] [12:17] shnatsel: i'm sorry, i meant...should we tackle and complete the live dvd portion first, and then focus on the edubuntu thing to seperate and simply the processes [12:17] or will that take too much time and not really simplifiy it enough? [12:18] i'm just nervous about getting everything done, if we focus on live dvd first, then we will know it's complete and then can research the edubuntu select/install issue [12:18] scott-work: those tasks are so tightly related that they should be done simultaneously IMHO [12:19] scott-work: if we finish livedvd seeds first, we'll have to redo them for that installer thing anyway [12:19] scott-work: oh, I tried to do the proposed things for including my packages in Debian, the tools seem to be buggy. On the 8th try I managed to get through it, it said that I should receive an email response in an hour max. It's been 2 hours and still no response. [12:19] shnatsel: okay, i'm good with that then :) [12:20] bbiab [12:20] shnatsel: later today i'll email quadrispro about your packages and debian [12:32] scott-work, theme as in gtk theme? maybe ask mr_pouit :) [12:33] knome: thank you :) [12:33] scott-work, yes, you can add pages yourself after it's live [12:34] scott-work, if you need to know things about the theme itself, you can ask me :) [12:37] knome: i'm concerned about what files i need to touch and implementing it inside ubuntustudio-look [12:37] scott-work, afaik, greybird should be inside murrine-themes [12:37] i was hoping for a overview of what needs to be done, i can probably get into the minutia myself given a general direction [12:37] scott-work, so you'd only need to install that pkg, and set greybird as default [12:38] knome: exactly! i think i could probably handle the rest [12:38] but this doesn't touch the panels at this point, correct? [12:38] no [12:38] no, i am incorrect? or no, it doesn't touch the panels? [12:38] it doesn't touch the panels [12:39] oh good! [12:40] the panel layout should be in the xfce config stuff [12:40] not that i don't want to touch the panels, but i like it when my understandings are not shattered ;) [12:40] knome: right! in an xml file, correct? [12:40] very readable, if not laborious [12:40] i have no deeper understanding in that, mr_pouit will know it from his head, or people in #xfce-dev [12:41] ^ a good chan to be in, btw [12:43] i will add that channel then [12:57] knome: i wasnt sure how you felt about admins to the test site like that [12:57] like acmeinc [12:57] or if its easy to just add them [12:57] did you see acmeinc 's email addy? [12:58] tim@pghcomp.com [13:05] holstein, ah, no, i missed that [16:22] knome: acmeinc has some time today to do some of the staging whenever you get a chance to hook up and discuss an account there [16:22] thanks :) [16:24] staging as in adding content? [16:24] knome: yup [16:24] right [16:24] some of the stuff im to do [16:24] nothing crazy... [16:25] acmeinc has read the blueprint [16:25] and offered to help [16:25] acmeinc, can you PM me your realname and i'll add you an account [16:49] knome: will you need anything further from the other development website (http://myhaiku.org) ? [16:50] no, if you don't want to move content from over there [16:52] no, i don't think so, the original author was asking about it (i think he wants to take it down if possible) [16:52] sure [16:53] thank you [16:55] np :) [16:56] * knome is just refreshing the theme of his own blog