[01:05] <holstein> knome: congrats on the xubuntu team lead :)
[02:22] <ScottL> micahg, i remember most of it, just sometimes forget some of the syntax for some of the bzr commands
[02:23] <ScottL> i hope charlie doesn't feel bad :/
[04:35] <holstein> acmeinc: you might need to just camp out here for a bit
[04:35] <acmeinc> im here
[04:36] <holstein> you were interested in helping with the site?
[04:36] <acmeinc> correct
[04:36] <holstein> cool
[04:36] <holstein> acmeinc: welcome :)
[04:36] <acmeinc> i was actually just reading the blueprint
[04:36] <holstein> nice
[04:36] <holstein> i was going to link that
[04:36] <acmeinc> looks like you've moved forward a bit
[04:36] <holstein> yup
[04:36] <holstein> we just cant easily 'fix' whats there
[04:37] <holstein> so, we are going to just implement the new site
[04:37] <acmeinc> cms based i would assume, or does ubuntu give a "theming" environemnt?
[04:37] <holstein> wordpress
[04:37] <acmeinc> easy enough
[04:37] <holstein> knome has set up a testing environment
[04:38] <acmeinc> may i ask why the current cant be updated?  at elast for the time being
[04:38] <holstein> http://temp.knome.fi/ubuntustudio/wordpress/
[04:38] <holstein> acmeinc: you sure can
[04:39] <holstein> not sure who you ask though
[04:39] <holstein> we dont have rights to it
[04:39] <holstein> thats pretty much why it cant
[04:39] <acmeinc> i see...new site looks nice...doesnt look like you need me :P
[04:40] <acmeinc> seems to just need content migrated/created
[04:40] <holstein> acmeinc: feel free to check out the blueprint and get envolved where you want :)
[04:40] <holstein> it would be great to just throw up a bandaid temporarily
[04:40] <holstein> im sure *someone* has access
[04:40] <holstein> and you could ask around
[04:41] <acmeinc> well the sooner content gets migrated the quicker ubuntu will approve the site id assume
[04:41] <holstein> yup
[04:41] <acmeinc> soo....what do you need from me, or, how can i help?
[04:42] <holstein> at http://temp.knome.fi/ubuntustudio/wordpress/
[04:42] <holstein> there are pages
[04:42] <holstein> you can help me/us decide content
[04:42] <holstein> i was planning on loading up the old site
[04:43] <holstein> and weeding through it
[04:43] <holstein> putting up something for us to mess with soon
[04:43] <holstein> you can also ask knome for the wordpress admin rights there as that staging site
[04:43] <holstein> and just go for it yourself
[04:43] <acmeinc> ok...well this doesnt seem very hard to get a "working" clone up that is at least an actual legit site
[04:44] <acmeinc> if he could give me just posting rights, that should do, i can get content on the download page
[04:44] <holstein> acmeinc: you want to PM me your email?
[04:44] <acmeinc> its on the list, so its not private :P
[04:44] <acmeinc> tim@pghcomp.com
[04:44] <holstein> hehe
[04:45] <holstein> acmeinc: well, if you can hang here, go for it
[04:46] <holstein> i'm sure i'll see knome soon and ill pass on your email
[04:46] <holstein> if not, i'll just look harder for the email addy i cant find right now
[04:46] <acmeinc> ok cool...i have some ideas....mainly i really think the package list for each sub-distro of studio should be included.
[04:47] <holstein> you mean the meta-packages?
[04:47] <holstein> we might be changing that actually
[04:47] <acmeinc> @hostein, do you have anything to do with the actual dev of studio?
[04:47] <holstein> well, i have as much as anyone else really
[04:47] <acmeinc> like audio, graphics and video i mean holstein
[04:47] <holstein> im not a coding contributor
[04:47] <holstein> which is what we need
[04:47] <holstein> ScottL is the team lead
[04:48] <holstein> we have a few folks like knome that have come on since we moved to XFCE
[04:48] <holstein> which is exciting
[04:48] <acmeinc> ok not so much myself either, but, i have been using xfce with studio for quite some time now, didnt seem so hard to "merge" them
[04:48] <holstein> acmeinc: cool
[04:48] <holstein> yeah, we have plans to go with a live installer DVD
[04:49] <holstein> and have a different kind of task select
[04:49] <holstein> like 'workflows'
[04:49] <acmeinc> not so much experience with that unfortunately, but ive read about the blueprints
[04:49] <holstein> http://edubuntu.org/documentation/11.04/installation-guide#Edubuntu_Options_and_Partitioning_
[04:49] <holstein> ^^ like edubuntu there
[04:49] <holstein> top right image i think
[04:50] <holstein> anyways, that sounds like documentation too acmeinc which is also something that needs to be discussed
[04:50] <holstein> right now, im pretty focused on the site
[04:50] <holstein> since that makes us look dormant
[04:50] <acmeinc> yea, i can dig on that.  i am happy to write up some stuff
[04:50] <micahg> ScottL: I use bzr help quite often
[04:51] <holstein> acmeinc: well, we are glad you are here
[06:35] <knome> holstein, thanks :)
[07:16] <knome> hey acmeinc 
[07:16] <knome> acmeinc, i quickly saw you discussed the website with holstein earlier
[09:03] <shnatsel> MAN< debian processes and their tools are so damn retarded
[09:04] <shnatsel> I wonder how do they manage to use that
[09:04] <shnatsel> they are totally counter-intuitive and seem to be buggy too
[09:05] <shnatsel> and when I got throught it on the 8th try, I got "wait for an hour to find out if your bug report was submitted"
[09:05] <shnatsel> marvellous
[12:11] <scott-work> good morning everyone :)
[12:12] <scott-work> knome:  are you intimately familiar with setting the theme in xubuntu or do you know who is?  i would really like to get this progressed before we start the more laborous tasks for -lowlateny kernel and live dvd
[12:13] <scott-work> knome: also, will it be possible to create new pages on the website once it is in place and live?  will we have to go through security again?
[12:14] <scott-work> hi shnatsel, do you think we shoud implement the live dvd seperately from the edubuntu user select/install components task?  or should we do both at the same time?
[12:15] <scott-work> shnatsel: i'm leaning towards getting the live dvd portion first
[12:15]  * scott-work may ask in #edubuntu-devel about this
[12:15] <shnatsel> scott-work: I'm not sure where it should reside, I haven't really seen Ubiquity for a year already]
[12:17] <scott-work> shnatsel: i'm sorry, i meant...should we tackle and complete the live dvd portion first, and then focus on the edubuntu thing to seperate and simply the processes
[12:17] <scott-work> or will that take too much time and not really simplifiy it enough?
[12:18] <scott-work> i'm just nervous about getting everything done, if we focus on live dvd first, then we will know it's complete and then can research the edubuntu select/install issue
[12:18] <shnatsel> scott-work: those tasks are so tightly related that they should be done simultaneously IMHO
[12:19] <shnatsel> scott-work: if we finish livedvd seeds first, we'll have to redo them for that installer thing anyway
[12:19] <shnatsel> scott-work: oh, I tried to do the proposed things for including my packages in Debian, the tools seem to be buggy. On the 8th try I managed to get through it, it said that I should receive an email response in an hour max. It's been 2 hours and still no response.
[12:19] <scott-work> shnatsel: okay, i'm good with that then :)
[12:20] <shnatsel> bbiab
[12:20] <scott-work> shnatsel: later today i'll email quadrispro about your packages and debian
[12:32] <knome> scott-work, theme as in gtk theme? maybe ask mr_pouit :)
[12:33] <scott-work> knome: thank you :)
[12:33] <knome> scott-work, yes, you can add pages yourself after it's live
[12:34] <knome> scott-work, if you need to know things about the theme itself, you can ask me :)
[12:37] <scott-work> knome: i'm concerned about what files i need to touch and implementing it inside ubuntustudio-look
[12:37] <knome> scott-work, afaik, greybird should be inside murrine-themes
[12:37] <scott-work> i was hoping for a overview of what needs to be done, i can probably get into the minutia myself given a general direction
[12:37] <knome> scott-work, so you'd only need to install that pkg, and set greybird as default
[12:38] <scott-work> knome: exactly!  i think i could probably handle the rest
[12:38] <scott-work> but this doesn't touch the panels at this point, correct?
[12:38] <knome> no
[12:38] <scott-work> no, i am incorrect?  or no, it doesn't touch the panels?
[12:38] <knome> it doesn't touch the panels
[12:39] <scott-work> oh good!
[12:40] <knome> the panel layout should be in the xfce config stuff
[12:40] <scott-work> not that i don't want to touch the panels, but i like it when my understandings are not shattered ;)
[12:40] <scott-work> knome: right!  in an xml file, correct?
[12:40] <scott-work> very readable, if not laborious
[12:40] <knome> i have no deeper understanding in that, mr_pouit will know it from his head, or people in #xfce-dev
[12:41] <knome> ^ a good chan to be in, btw
[12:43] <scott-work> i will add that channel then
[12:57] <holstein> knome: i wasnt sure how you felt about admins to the test site like that
[12:57] <holstein> like acmeinc 
[12:57] <holstein> or if its easy to just add them
[12:57] <holstein> did you see acmeinc 's email addy?
[12:58] <holstein> tim@pghcomp.com
[13:05] <knome> holstein, ah, no, i missed that
[16:22] <holstein> knome: acmeinc has some time today to do some of the staging whenever you get a chance to hook up and discuss an account there
[16:22] <holstein> thanks :)
[16:24] <knome> staging as in adding content?
[16:24] <holstein> knome: yup
[16:24] <knome> right
[16:24] <holstein> some of the stuff im to do
[16:24] <holstein> nothing crazy...
[16:25] <holstein> acmeinc has read the blueprint
[16:25] <holstein> and offered to help
[16:25] <knome> acmeinc, can you PM me your realname and i'll add you an account
[16:49] <scott-work> knome: will you need anything further from the other development website (http://myhaiku.org) ?
[16:50] <knome> no, if you don't want to move content from over there
[16:52] <scott-work> no, i don't think so, the original author was asking about it (i think he wants to take it down if possible)
[16:52] <knome> sure
[16:53] <scott-work> thank you
[16:55] <knome> np :)
[16:56]  * knome is just refreshing the theme of his own blog