[00:53] <charlie-tca> Good night
[00:54] <Unit193> micahg: If it helps, know I run Aurora
[01:22] <cody-somerville> knome, Congratulations.
[02:21] <ScottL> congratulation knome  :)
[06:35] <knome> cody-somerville, ScottL: thanks
[06:35] <knome> cody-somerville, i see you are the admin of the xubuntu groups in LP. mind passing me some operating rights too? :)
[06:37] <knome> pleia2, ?
[12:33] <scott-work> mr_pouit:  i would like to implement the xubuntu theme into ubuntu studio, are you knowledgeable about the theme to explain a few things?
[12:52] <mr_pouit> scott-work: which theme? gtk?
[12:54] <scott-work> mr_pouit: not sure, actually, but i was wondering about the part where the panels are set (i think i understand how to install the greybird theme now)
[12:56] <scott-work> mr_pouit: i realize this is a rather open ended question and rather ill defined at that
[12:56] <scott-work> so perhaps i should state the end game...i want to transition ubuntu studio to the generalized themeing that xubuntu currently uses
[12:57] <mr_pouit> ah, ok
[12:57] <scott-work> i believe i know how to implement the greybird theme, but this does not change the panels
[12:57] <mr_pouit> for the panel it's only a matter of default settings
[12:57] <scott-work> are there other aspects that i would need to address as well, other than greybird and panels?
[12:57] <scott-work> re: default settings, i believe they are xml files?
[12:58] <mr_pouit> other aspects: you might want lightdm & plymouth themes as well
[12:58] <scott-work> we have a plymouth theme that is acceptable
[12:59] <scott-work> although i certainly wouldn't mind changing the lightdm theme, especially after what i saw on the ubuntu image
[12:59] <mr_pouit> for the panel, the default upstream configuration (when nothing exists in $HOME), is /etc/xdg/xdg/xfce4/panel/default.xml
[13:00] <mr_pouit> but I patched that to search in $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS instead
[13:00] <mr_pouit> (so e.g. for Xubuntu, it will use /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/panel/default.xml)
[13:01] <scott-work> so this should be fairly easy to moderate and implement for studio, correct?  just update the xml file at /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/panel/default.xml?
[13:01] <mr_pouit> so if you set some special xdg dirs for ubuntu studio, you can drop a config file there
[13:01] <scott-work> or i guess maybe make 'xdg-ubuntustudio' i suppose
[13:01] <mr_pouit> yeah
[13:01] <scott-work> wouldn't i be able to moderate my current panel layout, find my local /etc/xdg/xdg-xubuntu/xfce4/panel/default.xml file and use it?
[13:03] <mr_pouit> yeah, you can try that (but if you reuse your user config, some small changes are needed)
[13:04] <mr_pouit> for your user, it's in $HOME/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce46panel.xml
[13:04] <mr_pouit> xfce4-panel.xml, sorry, typo
[13:06] <mr_pouit> also note that such a default systemwide config is only used on fresh installs/first launch, and upgrades from earlier (e.g. xfce4-panel 4.6) versions
[13:06] <mr_pouit> if there's already some user config, it won't be overwritten
[13:09] <mr_pouit> (and if you need an example of the layout, you can also look in xubuntu-default-settings)
[13:12] <scott-work> mr_pouit:  i might be misunderstanding...
[13:13] <scott-work> in order to update the current ubuntu studio theme/setting, i was thinking of moderating my current layout (in stock xubuntu), and using my local file as the basis for updating the package
[13:13] <scott-work> are you saying that this may not be a viable process?
[13:14] <scott-work> "moderating my current layout" means to update the layout slightly in order to more resemble ubuntu studio's previous panel layout
[13:21] <mr_pouit> if you copy $HOME/.config/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce46panel.xml to e.g. /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/xfce4/panel/default.xml, it will be _almost_ ok
[13:21] <mr_pouit> (xfce4-panel.xml, typo again)
[13:22] <mr_pouit> but some panel plugins still store their own config in another folder, so you'll need to copy the files as well, and the launchers' paths will need to be changed as well
[13:24] <mr_pouit> but I can tell you what you need to adjust as soon as you've moderated your current layout
[13:24] <scott-work> ah, okay
[13:25] <scott-work> perhaps during uds i might play with this and then i can give you more details about the layout then
[13:25] <scott-work> mr_pouit: will you be at uds?   (not that this needs to be done at uds, mind you ;)
[13:25] <scott-work> i ask about your presence at uds because i think it would be nice to meet you in person :-)
[13:26] <mr_pouit> ah, no, I won't go
[13:29] <scott-work> ah :(   i'm trying to get my list together of people that i would like to meet at uds
[13:42] <GridCube> good morning
[17:09] <Krawlezt> Hey, im very intressed of Xubuntu but i only have 700mb cds and the .rar file is around 650mb, how big is it when i have pack'd it up?
[17:11] <madnick> rar file?
[17:11] <Krawlezt> I saw an .rar or .zip file on a mirror.
[17:20]  * micahg doesn't suggest rar or zip xubuntu files
[17:21] <madnick> Likely the iso file opened in WinRAR :P
[17:25] <micahg> .rar and .zip files are known for being attack vectors for virii
[19:17] <mr_pouit> "Commonly Xubuntu is used on machines that have low performance hardware."
[19:18] <mr_pouit> maybe some people should not post on launchpad
[19:18] <pleia2> I was very diligent about making sure we removed all references to such things on our site, and yet... :)
[19:18] <mr_pouit> there's a question about xubuntu and the guy tells him to install ubuntu, that's awesome
[19:18] <mr_pouit> (cf. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/176033)
[19:39] <genii-around> Whats odd there is that the person does not even state their machine specs so why does the answerer start off by mentioning it, then assume sight unseen the box can run regular ubuntu. Weird.
[19:44] <Unit193> And Xubuntu isn't aimed at lightweight (anymore), it's more for Xfce, an alternate to Gnome/Unity, and just tries to not be a resource hog
[20:15]  * micahg should subscribe to the xubuntu tag on askubuntu.com