[01:14] <chickenbone> Does anybody know how I can disable my mouse pad on my laptop? It's driving me crazy.
[01:20] <Unit193> Either synaptics (not the package manager), or Menu > Settings > Settings Manager > mouse
[04:20] <ish> Is there a generic way to not have the theme override the look of application tray icons..  eg: dropbox, pidgin?
[05:33] <chaospsychex> can someone give me a link to the b43-firmware pkg for 11.10 ?
[07:53] <xubuntuuser> do people actually use this?
[07:54] <knome> "this" ?
[07:54] <xubuntuuser> installan 10.0.4.2 LTS
[07:54] <xubuntuuser> the IRC channel
[07:54] <xubuntuuser> saw the old "you are now installing the latest version of xubuntu!" thing and lol'd
[07:54] <xubuntuuser> then saw the IRC channel notice
[07:54] <xubuntuuser> and wondered how active it was
[07:54] <knome> at the time of release, that was true
[07:54] <xubuntuuser> i know that..
[07:54] <knome> we are very active
[07:54] <xubuntuuser> is there any advantage to 11.10?
[07:55] <knome> 11.10 is very stable too
[07:55] <xubuntuuser> i personally hate ubuntu > 10.10 so far
[07:55] <xubuntuuser> ubuntu 11.04 was miserable
[07:55] <xubuntuuser> worst ubuntu shock ever
[07:55] <xubuntuuser> not sure about xubuntu
[07:55] <knome> i don't know much about ubuntu desktop
[07:55] <xubuntuuser> if it comes with all the bloat...
[07:55] <knome> xubuntu has been stable all the time
[07:55] <xubuntuuser> i'm not concerned about stability as much
[07:55] <xubuntuuser> then i'd be using loldebian
[07:55] <xubuntuuser> minimalism
[07:56] <xubuntuuser> and #! is too minimal (read: useless)
[07:56] <xubuntuuser> ubuntu 11+ comes with loads of bloat
[07:56] <xubuntuuser> but to be fair i haven't tried xubuntu 11+
[07:56] <knome> xubuntu has a minimal amount of bloat
[07:56] <xubuntuuser> imo one of the biggest perks of xubuntu is minimal bloat with maximum usability
[07:57] <xubuntuuser> although 10.04 has some very annoying bugs
[07:57] <knome> mm-hmm, i agree
[07:57] <xubuntuuser> even LOTS
[07:57] <xubuntuuser> LTS
[07:57] <xubuntuuser> the keyring bug is infuriating if you are trying to go headless
[07:57] <knome> we actually just had a meeting about the "LTS" thing in xubuntu yesterday, and we might just dump it
[07:57] <knome> since every xubuntu release has been as stable
[07:57] <xubuntuuser> i don't see how LTS is worth it at all
[07:57] <knome> so you might just want to install 11.0
[07:57] <xubuntuuser> the LTS i use has bugs in it
[07:58] <knome> for ubuntu it maybe is
[07:58] <xubuntuuser> meh
[07:58] <xubuntuuser> installing on old hardware
[07:58] <xubuntuuser> that doesn't usb boot
[07:58] <xubuntuuser> and don't have any cd-rs laying around
[07:58] <xubuntuuser> i guess just update via internet
[07:58] <knome> when they can use lots of manpower to make sure everything is as stable as possible
[07:58] <knome> mmh
[07:58] <knome> upgrade to 11.10 might break though, in some rare cases
[07:58] <xubuntuuser> from 10.0.4.2 --> 11.10?
[07:58] <knome> that's because ubuntu switched from /var/run to /run etc
[07:58] <knome> well, you can't even upgrade directly
[07:59] <xubuntuuser> also
[07:59] <xubuntuuser> lol
[07:59] <xubuntuuser> upstart jobs
[07:59] <knome> you need to upgrade to 10.10 and then 11.04 and then 11.10
[07:59] <xubuntuuser> goodbye init.d
[07:59] <xubuntuuser> oh boy
[07:59] <xubuntuuser> troll updating
[07:59] <xubuntuuser> 3 update processes
[07:59] <xubuntuuser> i'll just find a CD i guess
[07:59] <knome> you could wait for 12.04 and upgrade directly that (LTS->LTS works)
[07:59] <xubuntuuser> you guys do a nice job otherwise though
[07:59] <knome> thanks
[08:00] <xubuntuuser> just ifnished another 10.04.2 install
[08:00] <xubuntuuser> greetings from cornell
[08:00] <S_SubZero> i installed xubuntu 11.10 today, checking it out.  Researching my questions before I ask them
[08:00] <xubuntuuser> our campus direct connect hub hardware uses xubuntu exclusively
[08:01] <knome> xubuntuuser, :)
[08:01] <xubuntuuser> if the ivy league uses it, it must be good
[08:02] <knome> i got to go
[08:02] <knome> wife is waiting
[08:02] <knome> see you all later, enjoy, and good luck with the support questions
[08:03] <xubuntuuser> enjoy
[08:03] <xubuntuuser> tbh though
[08:03] <xubuntuuser> most people say xubuntu is quite painful on the eyes
[08:03] <xubuntuuser> but that's not why i use it
[08:03] <xubuntuuser> and i will admit it isn't too flashy
[08:04] <well_laid_lawn> I think it looks good in blue
[08:04] <S_SubZero> is there a way to get another browser (ie. Chromium) to actually BE the default browser?  xubuntu really, really, REALLY likes Firefox
[08:05] <well_laid_lawn> have a look at   exo-preferred-applications   in a terminal
[08:06] <xubuntuuser> just use chromium...
[08:06] <xubuntuuser> i've installed chromium
[08:06] <xubuntuuser> and deleted firefox
[08:06] <xubuntuuser> imo firefox is trash
[08:08] <S_SubZero> that file is greek to me, it's only one line tho and doesn't seem to launch any browser specifically
[08:09] <well_laid_lawn> it'll launch the gui config for your preferred apps
[08:10] <S_SubZero> yeah, unfortunately the actual results are not what is expected
[08:10] <well_laid_lawn> what happened?
[08:11] <S_SubZero> well I installed Chromium.  then I launched it.  I went to Preferences, and chose "make Chromium my default browser"
[08:11] <S_SubZero> now to me, that seems like it should do the trick
[08:12] <S_SubZero> so I went to run "web browser" (the generic icon in the dock or under the application menu) and it throws up the eco window
[08:12] <S_SubZero> the exo "choose the browser" thing
[08:12] <S_SubZero> Chromium isn't there, I needed to select it from the filesystem manually
[08:12] <S_SubZero> Chromium starts, informing me "Chromium is not your default browser."
[08:13] <S_SubZero> if I make it the default again, every time I run "web browser" I get the exo popup and I need to select Chromium
[08:13] <S_SubZero> Software Center totally ignores this and runs firefox for anything going to a website
[08:14] <well_laid_lawn> who knows where chromium checks its' settings. When you set chromium as the default does something like   %F   get added to the end of it?
[08:14] <well_laid_lawn> e.g. chromium %F
[08:15] <S_SubZero> i don't know how to see that
[08:16] <well_laid_lawn> check in "other" after you make chromium the default
[08:17] <well_laid_lawn> seems it should be   chromium %s
[08:17] <S_SubZero> it says chromium "%s"
[08:17] <well_laid_lawn> should be fine then afaik
[08:17] <S_SubZero> specifically /usr/bin/chromium-browser "%s"
[08:18] <well_laid_lawn> I don't use chromium
[08:18] <well_laid_lawn> but have links set up like that and it works fine
[08:20] <xubuntuuser> has anyone encountered the keyring bug?
[08:42] <chj> hi! after installing updates this weekend, my laptop now has some serious performance issues. I'm running xubuntu 10.04 LTS. almost immediately after booting up, the process "xfmanager" goes into 100% CPU load, and stays there untill restartet, while load rises until machine is unusable. there are no error messages in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages or /var/log/X.org.0.log
[08:45] <chj> sorry! not "xfmanager"! the process name is of course "xfdesktop"!
[08:46] <chj> i can run xfdesktop --quit or --reload, which doesn't do too much, but if i kill -9 the pid, it promptly reloads and re-enters high cpu load
[08:46] <chj> when i run strace -p <pid>, it repeats the following:
[08:47] <chj> "read(3, 0x151c7b4, 4096)                = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable)"
[08:47] <chj> anyone have any idea what this means, and how to remedy it?
[08:49] <well_laid_lawn> chj: try logging in with a new session
[08:53] <chj> a parallell session, or just shutting down the existing?
[08:54] <chj> because i've been forced to restart X a few times today already.
[08:55] <well_laid_lawn> you'll have to logout to try - later will be ok ;)
[08:56] <chj> it seems to me -- and this might well be incidental -- that the error is somewhat connected to 'rdesktop'
[08:56] <chj> when i stop 'rdesktop' from running, xfdesktop actually behaves properly.
[08:56] <well_laid_lawn> what made you think that?
[08:56] <well_laid_lawn> I can't see from here
[08:56] <well_laid_lawn> :)
[08:56] <chj> i run two programmes automatically after login
[08:57] <chj> firefox and rdesktop to a windows terminal service.
[08:57] <chj> i disabled both now, trying to debug the situation
[08:57] <chj> when i started firefox manually, nothing unexpected happened.
[08:58] <chj> when i started rdesktop, xfdesktop started hogging cpu again
[08:58] <chj> when i stopped rdesktop and reloaded xfdesktop, it did not misbehave.
[08:59] <chj> (but i had to reload xfdesktop, as it just "hangs", but after the restart, it does not hog cpu)
[08:59] <well_laid_lawn> how are you starting rdesktop? where from and with what command?
[09:02] <chj> tested three times in a row, just after running 'rdesktop' (from terminal, with options: -u <username> -d <domain> -f -x 1 -a 24 -k no <terminal server name>, xfdesktop immediately just goes up to 100%
[09:04] <chj> i do actually believe that this a microsoft problem... :-)
[09:05] <chj> i terminated the windows session (usually that just hangs there, and i log in and out), and the error seems to have been resolved...
[09:06] <well_laid_lawn> try something like this suggests - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rdesktop
[09:06] <chj> thanks, i'll check
[09:07] <chj> but it seems that the error has been resolved (at least for now) :-)
[09:07] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[09:07] <chj> thank you :-)
[09:41] <miraman> hi i need advice about xubuntu 11.10
[09:41] <miraman> how to change default session?
[09:42] <miraman> in ubuntu i just logout and login other session, after reboot it autologin me to selected session
[09:42] <miraman> but in xubuntu this not work
[09:47] <well_laid_lawn> maybe you want to not save the session? I think that's what you're asking
[09:48] <miraman> i tried this option, but it still login me to xfce session, i want to autostart session xbmc, as xbmc-standalone
[09:49] <miraman> i can login as xbmc session but after reboot its still login me to xubuntu desktop
[09:58] <well_laid_lawn> miraman: from the menu choose system-login screen then select the default session
[10:08] <exs> hi
[10:09] <exs> because of problems with virutalbox with the new kernel in ubuntu 11.10 i wanted to start my system with an older kernel to use virtualbox. i used the startupmanager program to say grub to boot from another kernel. now it boots always with memtest86. i dont know how to change to the old configuriation. can somebody help me?
[10:11] <miraman> exs: as i remember hold shift at startup
[10:12] <miraman> well_laid_lawn i will look in it
[10:12] <exs> ok big thanks. miraman now say me please how to change the default entry of grub.
[10:13] <exs> i recognized later that startupmanager is depreacted
[10:15] <miraman> /boot/grub/grub.conf
[10:15] <miraman> i think
[10:16] <miraman> default=0
[10:16] <miraman> that will start first line on the list grub
[10:17] <exs> miraman: it doesnt exist
[10:18] <exs> but there is /etc/default/grub.conf
[10:18] <Pici> !grub2
[10:18] <exs> with a line "Grub_DEFAULT=0"
[10:18] <exs> but the entry for memtest is the 4th
[10:21] <well_laid_lawn> exs: sounds like you will need to chroot into the xubuntu install and update grub
[10:21] <well_laid_lawn> !chroot
[10:21] <exs> well_laid_lawn: iam already there
[10:21] <well_laid_lawn> well done
[10:22] <exs> well_laid_lawn: and now? how to update grub?
[10:23] <well_laid_lawn> exs: update-grub is a command to run to load grub again
[10:23] <exs> update-grub or update-grub2?
[10:24] <well_laid_lawn> exs: use the tab key to find out which you have
[10:24] <well_laid_lawn> !tab
[10:25] <exs> i have both
[10:25] <exs> lol :D
[10:25] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[10:25] <well_laid_lawn> I haven't had a grub issue for ages so I gues 2
[10:26] <well_laid_lawn> See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[10:26] <well_laid_lawn>  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[10:34] <techvish81> hi everyone!!!
[10:34] <techvish81> i've got a question/problem
[10:36] <well_laid_lawn> techvish81: you just ask the question in support channels :)
[10:36] <well_laid_lawn> !ask
[10:37] <techvish81> i installed xubuntu over ubuntu and whatever theme for windows and menus i keep, the popup menus of libreoffice remain the old greylike as in windows95
[10:38] <techvish81> i tried to reinstall libreoffice but no difference
[10:39] <vooze> Anyone using Docky? I cant get it it show icons for terminal + Thunar :(
[10:39] <vooze> it to show *
[10:41] <well_laid_lawn> techvish81: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/841696
[10:42] <techvish81> that means i will have to wait untill that bug is fixed
[10:43] <well_laid_lawn> techvish81: try installing libreoffice-gtk
[10:43] <well_laid_lawn> !info libreoffice-gtk
[10:43] <techvish81> ok thanks.
[10:46] <techvish81> problem solved , thank u very much.  now it looks good.
[10:46] <well_laid_lawn> cheers :)
[11:34] <giovanni> salve
[11:45] <rghvdberg> ls
[12:05] <anichols> Is there a way to add the current user's home folder to the 'applications menu'?  I've tried looking for info online, but nothing's worked for me so far. :(
[12:18] <anichols> ...ok, I'll try asking later.
[13:33] <wereyoda> mouse pointer problems again with 11.10
[13:33] <fist> hey, if i insert my headphones the sounds gets muted and is not unmutable. what could be the reason?
[13:43] <Alan> has anybody else had problems with 11.10 having trouble opening downloaded .deb files?
[13:43] <GridCube> Alan: the new software center manages .deb files
[13:43] <GridCube> i've found that it takes some time for it to catch it up
[13:44] <Alan> GridCube: eh, it keeps complaining that this one is broken...
[13:45] <Alan> which is annoying, since it's the google chrome .deb....
[13:45] <wereyoda> chmod +x /home/wereyoda/.Xdefaults
[13:45] <wereyoda> ..sudo update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme
[13:45] <wereyoda> ..the pointer is stable but size varies in 11.10
[13:45] <Alan> also, why is the shortcut for ~/Downloads called Download by default?
[13:46] <Alan> it's a bit counter-intuitive, since all the others correspond to their folder names...
[13:46]  * GridCube shrughs
[13:46] <GridCube> Alan: you can install chromium from the repositories
[13:47] <Alan> GridCube: chromium doesn't have google account sync does it?
[13:47] <Alan> also, i think it was a bug - just ran an update and now it's working again...
[13:47] <GridCube> no idea
[13:47] <GridCube> i use ff
[13:49] <GridCube> Alan: this should work http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-chrome-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[13:51] <searching> 2400 MHz Intel proccesor 768 Ram will run Xubuntu 11.10?
[13:51] <GridCube> it should
[13:52] <searching> with apache+php,gtk+ + gcc?
[13:52] <GridCube> those are usually good specs, the problem usually comes whit weird video cards
[13:52] <searching> 64
[13:52] <GridCube> searching: :) sure thing
[13:52] <searching> ok thanks
[13:52] <GridCube> in any case if you want even more power
[13:52] <GridCube> you can always go for lubuntu
[13:52] <GridCube> :P
[13:53] <searching> apache php gtk+ gcc run on lubuntu?
[13:53] <GridCube> its ubutnu whit lxde
[13:54] <searching> :)
[13:54] <searching> bye thanks
[14:34] <chickenbone> Hi boys and girls
[14:35] <chickenbone> can anybody tell me how I can disable my mouse pad
[14:35] <chickenbone> or track pad
[14:37] <GridCube> chickenbone: tryed synaptics?
[14:39] <TheSheep> I use a daemon that disables it for several seconds after every keystroke
[14:40] <TheSheep> syndaemon
[14:48] <chickenbone> what is synaptics - I take it its not the same thing as the software manager
[14:50] <xubuntu399> how can i make downloading faster on my xubuntu 10.10?
[14:52] <chickenbone> do you mean downloading pages
[14:52] <chickenbone> from the net
[15:11] <ball> I wonder how well Xubuntu would work on an Eeebox nettop.
[15:12] <knome> ball, works well on my eeepc 4G
[15:13] <techvish81> works well on my hpmini except touchpad double tap rightclick
[15:13] <n2diy>  what's the command to restart CUPS? /etc/services/cups restart?
[15:15] <shadow193> Hi all, I have a question : how can I disable touchpad?
[15:15] <ball> knome: I suppose I won't really know unless I try it.  I could buy a comparable desktop PC for the same money, but the nettop's more compact at least.
[15:16] <ElderDryas> shadow193: Menu>settings>Removable>Input devices>Mice   synclient TouchPadOff=1
[15:17] <shadow193> and there is problem, there is no menu : removable:/
[15:17] <ElderDryas> It will be disabled after you plug in a usb mouse, if you want you can always use that command in a terminal 1=off 0 =on
[15:18] <ElderDryas> shadow193: sheesh...Removable Devices and media :(
[15:19] <shadow193> love you man
[15:19] <shadow193> If we would meet in real you have a biiiiiig beer
[15:19] <shadow193> :D
[15:20] <ok-all-right> hello
[15:22] <craigbass1976> I've got the issue described here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560241  but am not sure how I fix .profile
[15:23] <ok-all-right> how can i increase the speed of updates?
[15:24] <techvish81> by selecting the best mirror
[15:25] <ok-all-right> i am a total newbie in this OS, my net connection is 1mbps but my update speed is 7-15kbps only
[15:26] <techvish81> u shoul get 50-80 mbps
[15:26] <craigbass1976> Hrmmm...  I just > .profile and still can't login.  Anyone know what might be screwing me up?  I type my username and pass into the login screen, then get bounced back to the login screen.  I can CtrlAltF1 and login there fine.
[15:27] <techvish81> how to set automatic login and no password prompt in chrome?
[15:28] <ok-all-right> why is can't use my full net speed on updating?
[15:29] <techvish81> it may be a problem with the mirror, there is some setting in the update manager where u can change the mirror , it may help
[15:29] <ok-all-right> how? don't have the idea to do it
[15:29] <ElderDryas> ok-all-right: Assuming your net connection is operating at a nominal speed, the slowdown is probable at the server/mirror end.  As techvish81 said, choose a different server/mirror.  The servers/mirrors can get broken, overloaded, or just plain slow.
[15:31] <techvish81> go to update manager, than in settings - ubuntu software- download from.. , change it.
[15:33] <craigbass1976> http://pastebin.com/DU4Pj58W  That's /var/log/auth.log while I'm trying to log into the GUI
[15:34] <ok-all-right> should i choose mirror near my country?
[15:35] <ElderDryas> ok-all-right: I'm not sure I'd try changing the server/mirror in the middle of an update though, not sure what it would do to the session...aanyone know?
[15:35] <craigbass1976> Twould no go well methinks
[15:35] <ElderDryas> ok-all-right: Usually the best, but network topography often has little to do with physical geography.
[15:36] <craigbass1976> ALthough...  I've lost my internet connection in the middle of an update (wireless router crapped out) and was able to pick up where I left off
[15:40] <ElderDryas> craigbass1976: Did you have autologin enabled when this no login occured?
[15:40] <ok-all-right> i just click the "choose best server", and my speed improves
[15:41] <ElderDryas> ok-all-right: :)
[15:41] <craigbass1976> ElderDryas, I don't think I've ever had auto login enabled.  Someone else might have monkeyed; this box is a POS station (that's Point of Sale -- not the other acronym) sitting right out and everyone working here knows the pass.
[15:41] <ok-all-right> thanks for the help :)
[15:42] <ElderDryas> craigbass1976: LDM or GDM?
[15:42] <craigbass1976> ElderDryas, and like I said, I can login via terminal (and ssh) fine as the same user
[15:42] <craigbass1976> gdm, if the log I posted is to be believed.  Is it?
[15:43] <ElderDryas> oh...yeah...")
[15:44] <craigbass1976> I'm not making fun; I just looked in /etc/init.d to be sure
[15:45] <ok-all-right> is it possible to have parallel downloading of applications at software center?
[15:45] <ElderDryas> craigbass1976: Try this: 1) login in via terminal; 2) sudo <EDITOR_HERE> /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf and add the lines below daemon:AutomaticLoginEnable=true  AutomaticLogin=LOGINID and try to login.
[15:45] <craigbass1976> ElderDryas, should I restart gdm?
[15:45] <ElderDryas> If it works, you can login and then try to trouble shoot the problem.  Becasue it's a POS, you probably won't want to leave it that way.
[15:46] <ElderDryas> yes
[15:47] <craigbass1976> ElderDryas, I've got no gdm3, just gdm, and I don't see a daemon.conf there
[15:47] <craigbass1976> I'm in lucid, if that matters
[15:48] <ElderDryas> Ah, well...poke around and see if there is something close (in folder and file)
[15:48] <ElderDryas> Not sure where things would be on lucid....
[15:48] <ElderDryas> Sorry gotta run...puppy demands her AM walk :)
[15:49] <craigbass1976> ElderDryas, they're like that.
[15:58] <w30> I would like to be able to change window borders in compiz. My window decorator is now "/usr/bin/compiz-decorator" Change it to what?
[16:00] <w30> how can I use xfce4? or xfwm4 or xfdesktop or what xubuntu is?
[16:37] <TheSheep> w30: you can't
[16:37] <TheSheep> w30: either you use compiz or xfwm4
[16:37] <TheSheep> w30: you can't pick parts from both
[16:38] <w30> TheSheep, that sucks
[16:39] <w30> TheSheep, how do I get a proper xubuntu  .deb for emerald?
[16:41] <TheSheep> w30: a what?
[16:41] <TheSheep> w30: emerald is a compiz window decoartor, it has nothing to do with xubuntu
[16:42] <TheSheep> also
[16:42] <TheSheep> !compiz
[16:42] <w30> TheSheep, how do I get emerald window manager? it's not in the repos that I know of.
[16:43] <TheSheep> I have no idea, try asking at #compiz
[16:44] <travkin> xubuntu ISO includes pulseaudio?
[16:44] <TheSheep> yes
[16:47] <travkin> if I uninstall it, will my multimedia hotkeys like XF86Raise/Lower Volume continue working? in last Ubuntu builds removing pulseaudio results that they're not work
[16:47] <travkin> but as far as I know, xfce4-volumed is responsible for it in XFCE, and it have no connection with pulseaudio
[16:48] <travkin> ok, anyway, gonna test
[16:52] <TheSheep> travkin: I have amixer bound to those keys
[16:52] <TheSheep> travkin: because at some point in some beta they didnt work
[16:52] <travkin> like amixer -q sset Master 2+? yeah, know
[16:52] <TheSheep> so in the worst case you just use that
[16:52] <travkin> that's not a solution for me, because I like OSD notification
[16:52] <travkin> thanks anyway
[16:53] <TheSheep> osd notification still appears somehow
[16:53] <travkin> mhm
[16:53] <TheSheep> but I do have pulseaudio
[16:53] <travkin> yeah, that's why it appears
[16:53] <travkin> can you check if you have xfce4-volumed installed?
[16:54] <TheSheep> I do
[16:54] <travkin> clear
[16:54] <TheSheep> but I always thought it's for automounting disk volumes :)
[16:54] <travkin> no-no, it's volume keys daemon
[16:54] <TheSheep> awesome
[16:54] <travkin> This daemon is responsible of making the volume up/down and mute keys of the keyboard work automatically, and uses the XFCE 4 mixer's defined card.
[16:55] <travkin> from xfce4-volumed launchpad
[16:55] <TheSheep> and it doesn't unmute pulseaudio :(
[16:55] <travkin> pulseaudio is shit that makes my sound card stuttering, so it's first what I'm doing after I install xubuntu :P
[16:56] <TheSheep> well, you need it if your sound card only has one channel
[16:56] <TheSheep> as most cheap sound cards
[17:09] <Krawlezt> Hey, im very intressed of Xubuntu but i only have 700mb cds and the .rar file is around 650mb, how big is it when i have pack'd it up?
[17:10] <TheSheep> rar file?
[17:10] <TheSheep> where did you get that?
[17:11] <Krawlezt> TheSheep: I saw on a mirror a .rar or .zip file.
[17:11] <TheSheep> Krawlezt: do you have a link?
[17:12] <TheSheep> Krawlezt: anyways, the iso fits on a 700MB cd, afaik
[17:12] <Krawlezt> Oh, okej. Thanks =)
[17:20] <rhin0> how do I get rid of the thing that keeps comingup with option on it at bottom of screen in 11.10
[17:20] <rhin0> its irritating
[17:20] <rhin0> highly
[17:20] <rhin0> the menu bar thing
[17:21] <zacarias> after several trials, I still can't make my Xubuntu 10.10 to be connected by other computers
[17:21] <TheSheep> right-click on it and select panel->panel preferences
[17:21] <TheSheep> then configure the panels however you like
[17:22] <zacarias> I installed Nautilus and selected sharing options for my home folder
[17:22] <zacarias> And nothing happened
[17:22] <rhin0> how do I get rid of it TheSheep -- says only "show and hide- unclick that box its always there"
[17:22] <rhin0> i dont' want it to see it at all I use the panel at the top of my screen
[17:22] <zacarias> My other computer ignores my Xubuntu
[17:23] <rhin0> ok i got it small
[17:23] <rhin0> this is all the kind of thing where they put stuff on you can't get rid of -- the assumption you will want it
[17:24] <rhin0> now i've lost screenspace for somehting I do not use
[17:24] <rhin0> i'd rather remove it completely
[17:24] <rhin0> it looks nice for about 10 minutes then it's just irritating
[18:05] <zacarias> does anyone know how to successfully share your folders so that they can be accessed from other computers?
[18:06] <knome> zacarias, what is the other computer running?
[18:06] <zacarias> knome: Mac OS X
[18:07] <knome> zacarias, install openssh-server and use sftp
[18:07] <zacarias> knome: ok, I'll try that. Thanks
[18:09] <rhin0> zacarias:  you can set up nfs between linux machines -- or you can set up samba for networking between linux and windows machines
[18:10] <rhin0> not sure about mac OSx ... netowrking on linux is nfs -- works gr8
[18:10] <zacarias> rhin0: thanks
[18:11] <bullcityrambler> New to Xubuntu.  I'd like to export some env variables on login.  I put them in rc.local and added rc.local to the autostart, but they don't work unless I manually invoke rc.local via cli.
[18:11] <rhin0> i think if mac os x is linux I heard it is linux -- it should do nfs
[18:11] <rhin0> nfs = network filing system - robust secure fast
[18:11] <zacarias> knome: after installing openssh-server what shall I do? (sorry)
[18:11] <bullcityrambler> I forgot the question--where to add the variables so they get loaded at startup?
[18:12] <rhin0> zacharias -- what knome described is not "sharing" it is just transfer of files over ssh -- it is just ftp really
[18:12] <rhin0> its not a permanent share
[18:12] <rhin0> i think
[18:12] <knome> rhin0, it can "share" files just as ftp
[18:12] <rhin0> ie. you have to issue commands to trnansfer the files -- with nfs files are "visible" on your pc
[18:12] <rhin0> ok
[18:13] <knome> rhin0, not with (s)ftp clients
[18:14] <kasztan85> hi
[18:14] <kasztan85> how i can turn on the composition in xubuntu?
[18:14] <kasztan85> in terminal
[18:15] <kasztan85> anybody?
[18:15] <zacarias> rhin0:  and knome: the idea is not only to connect to other computers from Xubuntu (that I can do with Gigolo or Nautilus) but to be able to connect from my other computer
[18:17] <knome> zacarias, are you using wireless or wired connection?
[18:17] <zacarias> knome: wireless, but I can use wired also
[18:18] <knome> zacarias, type
[18:18] <knome> zacarias, 'iwconfig' in terminal, and see what is your ip addess
[18:18] <knome> *address
[18:19] <zacarias> knome: there was no ip address in the output
[18:20] <zacarias> knome: although I can see it in the "Sustem Profiler and Benchmark", I think
[18:21] <knome> zacarias, okay. then install an (s)ftp client in your mac. you might even have one by default
[18:22] <zacarias> knome: I have fetch
[18:22] <knome> i'm not familiar with mac apps. anyway, connect to sftp yourip:22
[18:24] <OneKorea> 
[18:27] <pteague> what's this "Onboard" keyboard window & how do i get rid of it?
[18:28] <zacarias> knome: okay, I as able to connect with the ftp client (although not with the "networks" - afp, I think) from the finder; but that's not bad! Thanks
[18:28] <knome> np
[18:34] <bullcityrambler> can anyone tell me where to add a startup script to export env variables?
[18:34] <knome> bullcityrambler, is on login too late?
[18:35] <bullcityrambler> no, it'd be perfect.
[18:35] <bullcityrambler> I tried in rc.local, but it's not working
[18:35] <knome> bullcityrambler, in settings manager go to session and startup, tab application autostart
[18:38] <bullcityrambler> I added rc.local there.  But only one line of the script is getting executed on login (the multimon settings).  However, everything work with manual invocation.  I added a "sleep 8" line at the top of the script, but no help.
[18:38] <lukinfore> bullcityrambler, probably ~/.bashrc
[18:38] <lukinfore> or .profile
[18:38] <lukinfore> there was some changes
[18:39] <bullcityrambler> .bashrc doesn't get executed until I open the terminal, which is ok, but still seems like there should be a way to do it automatically.  I'll give .profile a shot.  Thanks!
[18:42] <pteague_work> ok, i found onboard & onboard settings on the menu under accessories, but i don't see anywhere that will allow me to not have it running on session start... it's not in my session stuff either
[18:48] <Snoopy> Hello !
[18:48] <Snoopy> I've got a problem with xubuntu and wifi :
[18:50] <snoopy_> my connexion is good at the beginning
[18:51] <snoopy_> I can open firefox and make a search on the web and it's work
[18:51] <snoopy_> but then after it doesn't work anymore
[18:51] <snoopy_> and I have to reclick on the connexion to load the next page
[18:53] <snoopy> have you an idea for this problem ?
[18:55] <vooze> Have anyone experienced the programmenu (only in toppanel.. NOT on right click) freezing after you minimised a windows? (ANY window as long as you minimize from "fullscreen"  ... Mine does it all the time :(
[19:02] <pteague> ok, that was re-assuring... lightdm was eating 100% cpu so i was closing out of things when a co-worker interrupted me... when i was done talking i moved the mouse expecting screensaver to be up... nope, black screen with white text on it... everything i've been typing across different windows
[19:26] <techvish81> how to setup automatic login and no password prompt in chrome.?
[19:30] <rhin0> log in to chrome?
[19:30] <rhin0> firefox will auto save your passwords
[19:30] <rhin0> i think if you use google id it'll log in
[19:40] <techvish81> every time chromium starts it asks for password, i want to get rid of that
[19:42] <techvish81> i mean, automatic login in system not chromium, sorry, they are two different questions, i put them wrongly.
[20:20] <badapple> hi guys =)
[20:21] <badapple> can u help me with a driver installation ?
[20:37] <TheSheep> badapple: what kind of driver?
[20:38] <TheSheep> badapple: most drivers are included with xubuntu already
[20:52] <badapple> TheSheep, well its rt3070 driver for D-Link DWA-140
[21:04] <TheSheep> badapple: what is that?
[21:04] <badapple> TheSheep, well i try to install driver of wireless card
[21:04] <badapple> :/
[21:06] <badapple> TheSheep, sorry for my slow network ..
[21:06] <TheSheep> badapple: did you go to system->drivers?
[21:06] <TheSheep> badapple: that is a program that installs the drivers for you automatically
[21:07] <badapple> TheSheep, yes .. and it says it says that is not working right now ... :/
[21:08] <TheSheep> well, then enable it
[21:08] <badapple> it is enabled
[21:08] <badapple> but its not working
[21:08] <TheSheep> did you reboot after enabling it?
[21:09] <badapple> it was enabled
[21:09] <badapple> ..
[21:09] <badapple> ok i try
[21:09] <badapple> desactivate
[21:09] <badapple> and enable again
[21:09] <badapple> =)
[21:09] <badapple> i reboot
[21:09] <badapple> i hope it works
[21:12] <badapple> TheSheep, no it is not working
[21:12] <badapple> TheSheep, it says no firmware found =(
[21:13] <badapple> TheSheep, i have xubuntu 10.10 could be this problem ?
[21:14] <TheSheep> badapple: it looks like you need to download the firmware from the producer's page
[21:14] <TheSheep> badapple: as it is not free
[21:14] <badapple> it is free :/
[21:14] <badapple> but i have errores during
[21:14] <badapple> install the firmware
[21:18] <badapple> TheSheep, so can you help me
[21:19] <TheSheep> badapple: what kind of errors?
[21:20] <badapple> TheSheep, well ... when i run "sudo make install"
[21:22] <genii-around> You should not need to make/make install firmware. Just copy the firmware file to /lib/firmware
[21:27] <badapple> TheSheep, is it a bin file ¿
[21:27] <badapple> ?
[21:28] <TheSheep> badapple: I'm not sure what file it is
[21:36] <alden> hello?
[21:41] <knome>  
[21:41] <alden> HI!!!
[21:49] <XubuntuZombie> Hello?
[21:49] <XubuntuZombie> Is there anyone here?
[21:49] <knome> no, we are all living dead
[21:50] <XubuntuZombie> Hi there. This is the first time I've seen someone in here. Granted, I've hardly used this at all, but it's still VERY empty compared to #ubuntu
[21:51] <knome> yup.
[21:51] <XubuntuZombie> why does it pop up a red line every time you talk?
[21:51] <knome> i don't know
[21:52] <XubuntuZombie> Oh.
[21:52] <XubuntuZombie> Do you know anything about the iso creator re-linux?
[21:53] <knome> not really
[21:53] <XubuntuZombie> ok, never mind then.
[21:54] <XubuntuZombie> do you know much about terminal commands?
[21:54] <knome> try me
[21:54] <XubuntuZombie> what does this tell you: usermod -d /etc/skel USERNAME; chown -R USERNAME /etc/skel
[21:54] <XubuntuZombie> where "USERNAME" would be replaced with one's username
[21:55] <Azelphur> Using Xubuntu 11.10 with a USB headset, when I use the volume control on my keyboard it changes the volume for Master, which does nothing, any idea how to change which device the keyboard volume control sets?
[21:56] <knome> uhm, what are you trying to do with that? i know /etc/skel and chown stuff, but i'm not really sure what that should do.
[21:56] <knome> XubuntuZombie, do you have a real problem?
[21:56] <XubuntuZombie> it's from the instructions on http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2011/10/10/relinux-a-way-to-create-a-bootable-iso-out-of-your-system/
[21:56] <XubuntuZombie> yes
[21:57] <XubuntuZombie> I do
[21:57] <XubuntuZombie> that's kinda scary
[21:57] <XubuntuZombie> your text turned red
[21:57] <XubuntuZombie> but yes
[21:57] <knome> XubuntuZombie, it is probably because your highlight is working, since i say your nick
[21:57] <XubuntuZombie> oh.
[21:58] <XubuntuZombie> I'm trying to create a custom ISO, and when I used that command in root, it set my home folder to /etc/skel
[21:58] <knome> yeah, that what i was thinking too.
[21:58] <knome> want to revert thaT?
[21:59] <XubuntuZombie> the instructions claimed that after following the steps it listed (which included using that command), it would have "saved" my settings
[21:59] <XubuntuZombie> well, I found commands for that on the forums
[21:59] <XubuntuZombie> but I'm not really sure why the instructions had me do this command...
[21:59] <knome> i don't know
[22:00] <XubuntuZombie> ok
[22:00] <XubuntuZombie> thanks anyway
[22:00] <knome> the instructions also told you to enable the root account
[22:00] <XubuntuZombie> yes
[22:00] <knome> that means things might go horribly wrong, and we're not supporting your system anymore
[22:00] <knome> well, we can't really
[22:01] <XubuntuZombie> huh?
[22:01] <knome> logging in as root graphically in (x)ubuntu is NOT a good idea.
[22:01] <XubuntuZombie> oh...
[22:01] <XubuntuZombie> is there a way to, umm, revert that in some way?
[22:02] <knome> not completely, really, because if you've logged in as root graphically, things have already gone really far - in the wrong direction
[22:02] <XubuntuZombie> oh...
[22:02] <XubuntuZombie> so I should just re-install?
[22:02] <knome> that would be the best thing
[22:02] <XubuntuZombie> ok...
[22:03] <XubuntuZombie> So I guess I'll try switching back to my regular home account, finishing creating the iso as per the instructions, and then I'll reinstall.
[22:03] <XubuntuZombie> Thanks for letting me know
[22:04] <knome> though if you create the iso from the files from your pc, that's not good either
[22:04] <XubuntuZombie> Becuase I recently reinstalled, and so I haven't yet reimported my files
[22:04] <knome> the problem is with permissions of files changing
[22:04] <XubuntuZombie> oh
[22:04] <XubuntuZombie> ok
[22:05] <XubuntuZombie> so I pretty much changed some..tags, per say, of some files on my computer, and they might still be retained on the custom iso I'm trying to create, which could still compromise my system?
[22:05] <XubuntuZombie> ...even after I reinstall?
[22:05] <knome> yeah, or break some things
[22:06] <XubuntuZombie> Ok.\
[22:06] <knome> if you reinstall with the ISO you create, yes, some things might just not work
[22:06] <XubuntuZombie> Better to know that now than late
[22:06] <XubuntuZombie> *later
[22:06] <knome> yup.
[22:06] <knome> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo explains some of this stuff better, if you are interested in reading
[22:07] <XubuntuZombie> Ooo, I was just reading that a little just an hour or so ago. I'll take a further look at it
[22:07] <XubuntuZombie> And I'll begin a full reinstall, too.
[22:07] <XubuntuZombie> Thanks for everything.
[22:21] <snark> I just chmod'd my /home/snark to remove all access rights for group and other.  Will that hurt anything?
[22:22] <knome> snark, haven't done that ever, but that might very well be
[22:23] <snark> knome I was afraid it might, but I just gave my brother ssh access to his own account on here, and I don't want him to be able to read my stuff.