| Daskreech | valorie: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia-pacific/285-indian-girls-replace-names-meaning-unwanted-to-rise-above-gender-discrimination/2011/10/22/gIQAb9vI6L_story.html Thought you would like that | 02:07 |
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| valorie | thanks Daskreech | 02:37 |
| valorie | reading | 02:37 |
| valorie | that's great that they are changing | 02:39 |
| valorie | but how horribly sad that they were ever named that, or were unwanted | 02:39 |
| valorie | :( | 02:39 |
| valorie | India will not become the great nation she can be until all humans are valued equally | 02:40 |
| Daskreech | valorie: I know it's such a mixed emotion article | 02:50 |
| valorie | progress is good, celebration is good | 02:50 |
| Daskreech | yes. I like that the school peers are choosing to use the new names | 02:51 |
| valorie | I knew my parents wanted a boy, but I didn't feel unwanted | 02:51 |
| valorie | here in the US, when parents CAN choose, they are more often choosing girls | 02:51 |
| valorie | I would like all children to be wanted, loved, nurtured | 02:53 |
| valorie | we'll get there eventually | 02:53 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: No. I think it's the opposite. ppa-purge removes the packages from your system. I think klearppa removes the packages from the PPA. | 02:54 |
| JontheEchidna | aah,makes sense | 02:54 |
| Daskreech | THey choose girls? | 02:55 |
| Daskreech | hmm wonder why? | 02:55 |
| maco | Daskreech: perception that boys are pains in the rear to raise? | 02:55 |
| maco | that whole "*sigh* boys will be boys....*tut tut*" | 02:55 |
| Daskreech | maco: They are | 02:56 |
| Daskreech | Not saying that it's a breath of fresh air raising girls | 02:57 |
| ScottK | No, but it's definitely different. | 02:57 |
| * Daskreech smiles | 02:59 | |
| JontheEchidna | ScottK: btw, how hard would it be to get muon/libqapt 1.2.2 SRU'd if they follow KDE point release policy? | 03:00 |
| Daskreech | Does the new LTS rule apply for Kubuntu ? | 03:00 |
| ScottK | JontheEchidna: I think it'd be an email to the TB. Not a big deal. | 03:00 |
| ScottK | Daskreech: What rule? | 03:00 |
| Daskreech | LTS is 5 yr support | 03:00 |
| ScottK | Probably. | 03:01 |
| ScottK | It'd be weird for it not to since it's exactly no more work to do so. | 03:01 |
| ScottK | I suppose that'll get worked out at UDS. | 03:01 |
| * Daskreech wants to start pimping Kubuntu locally | 03:02 | |
| Daskreech | But it seems that they are making LTS to LTS upgrades much more centered around when the new LTS comes out | 03:06 |
| valorie | what do you folks think about testing http://www.jupiterapplet.org/ to use in Kub? | 03:08 |
| valorie | I keep hearing that battery use in *buntu is half as good as Windows | 03:09 |
| Daskreech | valorie: I dont' know about 1/2 but it's certainly poorer | 03:12 |
| Daskreech | sabdfl got elected to the Community Council. Nice | 03:14 |
| ScottK | valorie: It'd need to be really tested to see if it's better. At a glance, some of the things they are doing (changing CPU mode) are obsolete with modern kernels. | 03:26 |
| valorie | I haven't heard about anyone else working on solutions for the problem | 03:31 |
| valorie | seems like more folks would be interested | 03:32 |
| yofel_ | JontheEchidna: ppa-purge removes packages from your system, klearppa removes sources from a PPA | 04:37 |
| JontheEchidna | cool | 04:37 |
| yofel_ | good morning btw. :) | 04:37 |
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| JontheEchidna | haha, I'm about to go to bed | 04:45 |
| JontheEchidna | yay timezones :P | 04:45 |
| shadeslayer | Quintasan: yeah, but I can't do anything till they crack the sbk v2 key and fix the mini boot loader thingy | 08:36 |
| shadeslayer | and stupid xbox .. doesn't come with a variable voltage adapter | 08:37 |
| shadeslayer | -.- | 08:37 |
| bambee | hi | 09:26 |
| Riddell | bonjour bambee | 09:30 |
| bambee | salut Riddell :) | 09:31 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: did you register blueprints for UDS or did I imagine that? | 10:47 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: you must have imagined, or launchpad ate them :) | 10:51 |
| Riddell | nom nom | 10:55 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: do we need/want a session for muon? | 10:56 |
| Riddell | Quintasan: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-P has a maybe by your name, do you know if you're coming? | 10:58 |
| Riddell | maco: are you expecting to be in kubuntu sessions? can I put you on that page? | 11:01 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: yeah, I think I'd like a session and maybe see what the Kubuntu dev community can come up with as a wishlist. | 11:17 |
| JontheEchidna | is there anybody who speaks french that could help me with bug 283728? If I could get him to provide a backtrace I think it would help. | 11:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 283728 in hplip (Debian) "HP usb network print adapter SDCAB-07-06" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/283728 | 11:22 |
| JontheEchidna | kde bug 283728 | 11:22 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 283728 in installer "MSC crashes when review fetch completes during cache reload" [Crash,New] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283728 | 11:22 |
| JontheEchidna | er | 11:22 |
| JontheEchidna | kde bug 284896 | 11:22 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 284896 in installer "muon crash" [Crash,Unconfirmed] http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284896 | 11:22 |
| Riddell | c'est un boog! | 11:22 |
| Riddell | un moment | 11:23 |
| Riddell | JontheEchidna: translation added, it's not very enlightening | 11:25 |
| JontheEchidna | Hmm :( | 11:25 |
| JontheEchidna | gotta go, bbl | 11:26 |
| Riddell | bambee: quel est la difference entre "bonsoir" et "bonne soiree"? | 11:54 |
| bambee | Riddell: "bonsoir" est équivalent à "good evening", tu salues une personne et c'est le soir. "bonne soirée" est équivalent à "have a nice evening", tu l'utilises lorsque tu souhaites dire au revoir et souhaiter une bonne soirée à une personne. | 12:03 |
| bambee | Riddell: that's probably better to continue this discussion on #kde-fr, nop ? | 12:04 |
| txwikinger | Any idea why muon during upgrade always freezes? | 12:46 |
| txwikinger | apt-get upgrade works fine | 12:47 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: I confirmed the Kickoff thing is a regression from 4.7.1. Also switch to classic kickoff is missing. | 12:55 |
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| maco | Riddell: yeah | 13:28 |
| yofel | rekonq needs testing btw: bug 880922 | 13:31 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 880922 in rekonq (Ubuntu Oneiric) "SRU tracking bug for rekonq 0.8" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/880922 | 13:31 |
| Quintasan_ | ScottK: I see, the bug was reported by someone else I guess? | 13:35 |
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| * Quintasan would like to backport the patch | 13:35 | |
| Quintasan | Riddell: I'll be coming for sure, forgot to edit | 13:36 |
| CIA-130 | [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 132 * bin/klearppa clean up the options, add an option to use a different source package status than Published and workaround lplib weirdness | 14:17 |
| CIA-130 | [lp:kubuntu-dev-tools] Philip Muškovac * 133 * bin/klearppa typo | 14:20 |
| _Groo_ | hi/2 | 14:22 |
| _Groo_ | all | 14:22 |
| yofel | o/ _Groo_ | 14:22 |
| _Groo_ | yo yofel :D | 14:23 |
| _Groo_ | im doing git calligra packages for oneiric as we speak | 14:23 |
| jtechidna | txwikinger: hicolor-icon-theme's update trigger script is hanging when gtk-update-icon-cache errors out: https://launchpad.net/bugs/855793 | 14:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 855793 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "Kubuntu 11.10 beta 1: Error upgrading using muon" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:27 |
| txwikinger | jtechidna: Well. but apt-get does not hang | 14:28 |
| jtechidna | dpkg is doing the hanging. muon just seems to expose the bug | 14:29 |
| txwikinger | hmm.. I hear you, I am still confused why I never get the problem with apt-get | 14:29 |
| yofel | too many errors to stderr maybe? | 14:29 |
| yofel | as I remember the flood of messages when you update that | 14:30 |
| txwikinger | or maybe you need a timeout | 14:30 |
| jtechidna | apt-get is usually run in a full-blown terminal emulator usually. That might be the difference | 14:30 |
| jtechidna | eh, too much usually in that sentence ;-) | 14:30 |
| txwikinger | the problem is that inexperienced users use muon and it freezes, they reboot and dpkg is locked | 14:30 |
| * yofel usually just uses aptitude :P | 14:30 | |
| jtechidna | it also seems to be a regression, since the same version of qapt/muon don't exhibit this error in 11.04 | 14:31 |
| txwikinger | yes.. I always havee those GdkPixbuf errors on commandline | 14:32 |
| txwikinger | Why do we need to run gtk-update-icon-cache in KDE? | 14:33 |
| txwikinger | ubuntu is so messed up :( | 14:34 |
| jtechidna | Gtk uses an icon cache for its core icon system, and it needs to be updated when the icons change. So if hicolor-icon-theme and a gtk package are both installed the update occurs | 14:35 |
| jtechidna | so as long as gtk is installed, the icon cache update is needed for icons to work properly with gtk apps | 14:36 |
| txwikinger | Still no reason to have all those errors for several releases now | 14:43 |
| Quintasan | godamn | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | Kubuntu fails to discover my intergrated ethernet card | 15:02 |
| Quintasan | ... | 15:02 |
| yofel | o.O | 15:03 |
| Quintasan | I mean, how the hell it's even possible | 15:06 |
| Quintasan | AH !#%@#$@# THIS | 15:06 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, i just generated an arm cross compiler tarball pkg to use with icecc | 16:28 |
| rbelem | :-D | 16:28 |
| apachelogger | <3 xcompiling | 16:28 |
| * rbelem hugs apachelogger | 16:28 | |
| rbelem | apachelogger, i will build the active packages with that | 16:29 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: I thought we have a PPA? | 16:30 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, they are really busy | 16:30 |
| rbelem | :'( | 16:30 |
| apachelogger | how about we install an open build serivce on the arm farm at ScottK's | 16:30 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, that would be awesum | 16:31 |
| rbelem | :-D | 16:31 |
| * rbelem goes for lunch | 16:37 | |
| yofel | uhm. Why does kubuntu-full recommend nvidia-current and fglrx? | 17:34 |
| yofel | depending on something like bcmwl-kernel-source at least doesn't break anything | 17:35 |
| yofel | installing the nvidia or ati drivers will at least disable MESA. So if you're using intel you're left without opengl | 17:36 |
| apachelogger | yofel: cause it is full of brekage? *shrug* | 19:48 |
| yofel | why are we shipping breakage? ... | 19:48 |
| apachelogger | why do the prop drivers screw with MESA anyway? | 19:48 |
| apachelogger | seems rather brain dead to me | 19:48 |
| yofel | well, nvidia ships it's own libGL, so you somehow need to manage that | 19:48 |
| apachelogger | yofel: listen to the oneiric defaults sessoin from last uds | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | there is reasons, they are not good IMHO, but they are there | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | yofel: ah, right | 19:49 |
| apachelogger | yofel: well, that is a pain in the neck right there | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | it would totally make sense to have full provide all the rubbish one might or might not need | 19:50 |
| apachelogger | however if stuff is mutually exclusive that sort of compromises the use of it all | 19:51 |
| yofel | well, it's not mutually exclusive.... but you would've to run a few update-alternative switches after installing it for it to work... | 19:51 |
| apachelogger | right, so they are effectively mutually exclusive or something :P | 19:52 |
| * yofel files a bug and leaves the discussion for UDS | 19:52 | |
| apachelogger | which reminds me | 19:53 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: I submitted the harmattan app to nokia store, see what they have to say about it | 19:53 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, nice :-) | 19:53 |
| apachelogger | if it is good I'll try to squeeze symbian in too | 19:54 |
| apachelogger | also Quintasan still needs to make the android ui | 19:54 |
| apachelogger | or maybe shadeslayer | 19:54 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, could it be the same ui? | 19:55 |
| apachelogger | structure wise, yes, for android2 anyway | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | android2 also has a page like navigation system inside apps | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | BUT we'd need new components for android | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | we can't simply copy the harmattan or symbian components unfortunately | 19:56 |
| apachelogger | though doing android components (from a non-UI) pov is not too complicated | 19:57 |
| apachelogger | copy the page stack impl from harmattan components and you are half way done | 19:57 |
| apachelogger | IIRC qtandroid even has screen size and rotation hinting implemented | 19:58 |
| Quintasan | derrpt | 19:58 |
| * Quintasan wonders how many dollarz should he take | 19:58 | |
| apachelogger | 200 should be more than enough | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | unless you wanna go buy disney swag :P | 19:59 |
| Quintasan | Nah, I'll take 300 in case I see some hardware I want | 19:59 |
| Quintasan | or some other stuff | 19:59 |
| jjesse | you going to buy a phone or something while in US? | 19:59 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: unlikely you have time to go shopping :P | 20:00 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, i saw an app that was published in android market and nokia store | 20:00 |
| apachelogger | anyhow... they have ATMs in the US ;) | 20:00 |
| rbelem | built in qt | 20:00 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, do you know about this app? | 20:00 |
| apachelogger | I read about it, but I forgot what it was | 20:01 |
| apachelogger | but IIRC it did not have a 'platform' ui but a highly themed artwork based one | 20:01 |
| rbelem | maybe its source would be helpful | 20:01 |
| apachelogger | if it is floss ;) | 20:01 |
| rbelem | it is | 20:01 |
| rbelem | let me check the name | 20:01 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: You are coming to UDS? | 20:02 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, yup | 20:02 |
| Quintasan | rbelem: Great | 20:03 |
| apachelogger | Quintasan: yeah, and he will whip your booty hard if you don't get started on the android ui | 20:03 |
| Quintasan | I told you I ain't doing it | 20:03 |
| Quintasan | Let us have sheytan design something | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | how does that help coding? | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | plus rbelem has someone already on it | 20:04 |
| apachelogger | or so he claimed, I have yet to see results :P | 20:04 |
| Quintasan | Problem solved | 20:04 |
| rbelem | i will poke the designers again here | 20:05 |
| Quintasan | apachelogger: Would it be possible to port my QTrollface to androidz? | 20:05 |
| * apachelogger would poke his designers, but they don't seem to be approachable much ^^ | 20:06 | |
| Quintasan | WITH the memleak feature of coursse | 20:06 |
| Quintasan | Oh well, going to bed | 20:07 |
| yofel | nini Quintasan | 20:08 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, here is the post http://tamss60.tamoggemon.com/2011/10/11/first-android-meego-symbian-qt-app-released-to-stores/ | 20:27 |
| afiestas | Quintasan: you're still under 21, right? | 20:29 |
| afiestas | Mueheheh | 20:29 |
| rbelem | afiestas, apachelogger, an app that i've been working http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/313313_10150354902107017_529232016_8435036_234663579_n.jpg | 20:31 |
| rbelem | it was presented today night | 20:31 |
| rbelem | in the party of qt dev days | 20:32 |
| rbelem | :-D | 20:32 |
| rbelem | Quintasan, hahaha you cannot drink :-D | 20:32 |
| afiestas | rbelem: ready for our week of hacking in "All sharing stuff" ? | 20:39 |
| afiestas | you better be :p | 20:39 |
| rbelem | afiestas, i'm ready ya ;-) | 20:44 |
| rbelem | :-D | 20:44 |
| afiestas | rbelem: :p | 20:44 |
| rbelem | afiestas, bring it on | 20:45 |
| rbelem | :-D | 20:45 |
| rbelem | street fighters talks | 20:46 |
| afiestas | xd | 20:46 |
| apachelogger | rbelem: is jukebox open? :P | 21:00 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, yup | 21:04 |
| rbelem | apachelogger, the source will be released soon :-D | 21:04 |
| apachelogger | woohooo | 21:04 |
| apachelogger | awesome | 21:04 |
| * apachelogger hugs rbelem | 21:04 | |
| rbelem | apachelogger, like chicken wranglers | 21:05 |
| * apachelogger totally failed when trying to get hold of the n9 browser code :P | 21:05 | |
| * rbelem hugs back apachelogger | 21:05 | |
| * apachelogger has a total code fetish | 21:05 | |
| rbelem | apachelogger, do you know if they released the code? | 21:06 |
| apachelogger | they haven't | 21:06 |
| apachelogger | I wasn't even able to find out who would be responsible for that at this point *shrug* | 21:07 |
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