[00:30] The software center and the upgrade notification of kubuntu 11.04 is convenient. Why does the 11.11 change it to muon? [00:36] xieyi: its used muon since 11.04. 11.10 is just an enhancement of it [00:37] xieyi: I beleive the idea is that Muon gives you the "basic" and "expert" options [00:41] i installed kubuntu-desktop -- how do i uninstall ubuntu and its gnome apps so it has kde only apps installed? [00:42] !purekde [00:42] If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE » [00:50] i installed kubuntu-desktop on 11.10 -- how do i uninstall ubuntu and its gnome apps so it has kde only apps installed? [00:50] glennwhipple: read what ubottu said [00:50] removing the ubuntu-desktop metapackage does nothing [00:50] that link refers to 9.04 and earlier [00:51] I have recently installed the newest Kubuntu for download. I have nvidia drivers installed but cannot find where to add more resolutions or color depth. the xorg.conf file doesn't have much in it anymore. [00:51] glennwhipple: read the manual one. i dont know who put the automatic bit in, but im going to remove it [00:51] oh ugh [00:51] what maco and ubottu are suggesting will work [00:51] no they wont [00:51] because SOMEONE copied the psychocats stuff into a wiki then didnt keep it up to date with psychocats! [00:51] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde [00:52] ubottu: no !purekde is If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde » [00:52] maco: thanks! [00:56] Could someone direct me where to manually add screen resolutions and depth please? xorg.conf appears to be much more limited than I remember it. [00:56] !resolution [00:56] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [00:56] Don_jr: see that wiki page for how to use xrandr [00:56] thanks [01:08] speaking of X...when will kubuntu start supporting wayland? [01:08] getting an error attempting to run the commands suggested on that wiki site. reading through the thread and still can't find an answer to my error. [01:11] Don_jr: if you're using the nvidia binary drivers, open nvidia x server settings [01:13] I have looked in teh settings, it doesn't list the resolution that I'm trying to get to, which I know my monitor supports, nor will it allow me to go past 16mill color depth. [01:14] what colour depth are you hoping for exactly? [01:16] there's something past 16mil? [01:16] Linkmaster: when ubuntu does? i dont think wayland is intended before the next lts at least [01:16] oh theres nothing else before the next lts is there? ok well not 12.04! [01:19] I'm including backports and the like. Even hack installs. I just want to know whether it'll start working(supposedly, 11.10 can work using openGL ES, but I'm not sure about it) === Guest10959 is now known as krankshaft79 === felipe_ is now known as Guest67723 [01:41] I have installed kubuntu 11.10 fresh yesterday, I have an nvidia graphics card and the drivers appear to be working somewhat properly. But some resolution and color depth are missing in the nvidia config settings. I've tried xrandr to manually add resolutions with no success. How else might I go about doing this? [01:42] Don_jr: what resolutions and colour depths aren't working? [01:42] 1280x1025 resolution doesnt' appear in the config drop down menu and 16mil colors is the max it will allow me to select [01:43] in the past I've had to manually add things to xorg.conf to make this work. But xorg.conf no longer appears to be tehre for me to do that with. [01:43] Don_jr: are you sure you're using the "Nvidia" drivers? [01:45] it shows as 'active' in the 'additional drivers' list and teh nvidia config tool works for changing resolutions, it just doesn't give me the resolutions or color depth that I know this card/monitor can use. [01:45] I have attempted to cvt 1280x1025 and add the mode and then set it to default with no positive results [01:46] I get Configuring crt1 failed [01:46] Don_jr: any idea what your driver version is? [01:47] even when I change the resolution within the nvidia settings after a restart it reverts back, due to the fact that I can't save it to an x configuration file [01:47] let me check [01:47] Don_jr: no xorg.conf is used by default but you can create one and it'll be used [01:47] again, what colour depth are you expecting to get? [01:48] there's only one more above the 16mil colors isn't there? [01:48] don't remember if it's 28 or 32 [01:48] 24 [01:48] I can't find the driver version [01:48] as I understand it 32 bit is misleading; it simply refers to 24 bit colours plus an 8-bit alpha channel [01:49] 24 bit is the maximum depth for the actual colours [01:49] dont' remember how to look, but the nvidia config shows the proper card and the additional drivers says the drivers are current and up to date [01:49] Sentynel: you are right [01:49] Don_jr: open Konsole and type : "nvidia-settings --version" [01:50] Didn't know that, but good to learn. I jsut know it will go above 16mil, on my winblows side of the partition I get all of these [01:50] version 280.13 [01:51] Don_jr: ok well that's good [01:52] from past experiences it's the monitor that causes teh issue. it's an older samsung SyncMaster 731b, I've always had to manually add the resolutions and depth to the xorg.conf before [01:52] aaaaah [01:53] creating a proper xorg.conf from scratch is not something I believe I could do without much help lol [01:53] Don_jr: is it a DVI or VGA port? [01:54] connected via vga at teh moment as I don't have a dvi cord [01:55] Don_jr: ok, only asking becuase I have a DVI/VGA monitor that forgets it can accept DVI [01:56] No problem, yes teh monitor and card both have dvi ports, I just don't have a cord to do so, and from what I've read there isn't much of a performance issue between the two so I never bothered to get one. [01:57] either way it sounds as if I'm going to have to attempt to create a xorg.conf file from scratch [01:57] will xconfigure do this for me? [01:58] xonfig or whichever it is, been a while [02:03] Don_jr: you can have nvidia create your Xorg config for you.... beats the old days [02:04] tried that, didn't work, had like 2 lines in it. BUT Xorg :1 -configure did create a file for me, I'm fiddling with it now [02:04] will need to restart X in a few mins, though I don't remember how to do that directly [02:06] Don_jr: "sudo nvidia-xconfig" will do it [02:07] I'll try that if this doesn't work, do I have to reboot completely to restart X or is there another way? [02:09] Don_jr: you need to log-out at least... might have to restarte X (when you log out I think it's "ALT-E"... but there's a menu option there too somewhere) [02:09] alright, back in a few [02:11] trying the nvidia way now, that xorg.conf did not work properly, had to start in failsafe mode [02:15] okay, that xorg.conf looks much nicer, restarting X again, back in a few [02:16] Don_jr: So? [02:16] alright, well now it's on and I have to setup the default resolutions, this appears to be working thus far [02:16] other than extremely limited(2 very low) resolutions lol [02:17] Don_jr: but does it show your monitor/video card resolution/colour depth? [02:17] the conf file does not show everything correct just yet, well not to display properly [02:17] not sure what your asking or looking for. [02:18] the nvidia server settings give me the option of 2 resolutions [02:18] that's it [02:18] you should only have two options... 16 and 24 [02:19] I have 8, 15, 16 and 24 [02:19] but your resolution isn't right? [02:19] 640x480 is the highest resolution shown [02:20] are you sure that you're using the nvidia drivers? [02:20] hopefully just adding the 'modes' line to the display will fix that? [02:20] open konsole and type: "lsmod | grep nvidia" [02:24] nvidia 10390874 30 is the output [02:24] I have added teh 'modes' line to the xorg.conf was about to restart to test it. should I wait or give it a shot? [02:27] give it a shot I guess [02:29] Hi, I keep losing audio in Oneiric. Mixer volumes are all up and unmuted. [02:31] No sound! [02:31] aplay seems to go forever [02:44] Anyone around? No sound, aplay hangs [02:46] nafg: be patient someone may be able to help [02:46] adding the 'modes' line did not help a thing... [02:51] nafg: perhaps try supplying more information. like if other applications have the same issue. if you google ubuntu sound debug you should find some resources to help you work out where the issue is [02:51] mase_work: The problem is it's not so clear what's for what version of Ubuntu. [02:51] There's no sound in any application. [02:51] Are you familiar with the 'amixer' command? [02:52] https://wiki.edubuntu.org/DebuggingSoundProblems [02:52] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshootingProcedure [02:52] the last one gives version information [02:55] Hmm nice LTS is 5 years [02:57] mase_work: Thanks! Will see what happens 330MBs later... [02:57] SIR_Taco you still there? The alterations I made to the xorg.conf did not help. [03:00] Incidentally, what are all the version numbers in e.g. libpam-runtime_1.1.3-2ubuntu2.1_amd64 [03:02] Don_jr: did you do an upgrade or a new install of 11.10? [03:09] completely new install yesterday [03:09] the last time I had kubuntu on here was back with gusty and I got a new HD so I downloaded the newest one and installed all yesterday [03:10] nafg: good luck [03:11] Still installing a bunch of unrelated things... [03:15] hi all, since the last update of kde, has any one had problems with Kstars not starting and giving a fault(11)? [03:19] Starwatcher: nice nick btw [03:21] Hmm [03:21] sudo apt-get --reinstall install libasound2 [03:21] Thanks LOL [03:21] prints [03:21] E: Internal Error, No file name for libasound2 [03:21] Any idea? [03:47] Greetings one and all present. [03:55] My volume knob doesn't seem to have any obvious impact on the volume [03:56] Gartbull [04:00] SIR_Taco I have the problem fixed! :D Thanks for your patience and help [04:13] Sorry, I d/c...is anyone else having a problem where the volume indicator doesn't seem to have an effect on the actual volume? [04:15] Steve132: what do you mean by volume indicator? [04:15] I mean I have volume up/down/mute buttons on my keyboard, and when I use them knotify shows me a progress bar that increases and decreases correctly as I press them [04:15] but the volume of the sound is unaffected [04:16] * TheEvilPhoenix has never had that issue [04:16] ah i don't have that but it might be that it's altering the wrong channel [04:16] how would I check/fix that? [04:17] rmb select primary channel maybe [04:17] you could open kmix [04:17] and change the volume and see which bar is reduce [04:17] reduced* [04:21] So, I just did that [04:21] and it does seem to be incorrect [04:21] I apparently have two sound devices in this machine [04:21] one is hdmi [04:21] and the other is my speakers [04:21] that would be great except setting everything to prefer to not use the hdmi seems to have no effect [04:22] there are a few places you have to make the settings, unfortunately it's still a bit fiddley [04:22] one day i'll submit a bug report about it [04:23] think you could help me to figure it out? [04:27] Hi [04:29] Where are the places I need to make the settings? === yofel_ is now known as yofel === alexander is now known as Guest74352 [04:54] I think I fixed it. Thank you [04:56] I'm using plasma-windowed to display notifications, is it possible to set a region so that I can have them right aligned. Currently I have to have them on the left side because they expand rightwards if they are larger [05:10] and Ideas on how to define a region where plasma can display plasmoids [05:24] Can I define a region for plasmoids? [05:31] I'd like to know what is going on with the indicator plasmoid lately [05:31] Konversation and KMail no longer use it [05:32] and Kopete doesn't work right with it at all (it alerts you to the first incoming message then that's it, no more green lights for new messages) then eventually it's impossible to restore Kopete from it [05:32] I had to give up and remove the indicator and tell Kopete to use the tray === james is now known as Guest2768 === Guest2768 is now known as utahjames === ceco is now known as vyrgozunqk === sub_ is now known as Guest29646 [06:53] Does anybody know why Print Preview is broken in the text editor Leafpad? [07:13] Hi [07:14] how select an application(firefox) for opening http in thunderbird on Kubuntu 11.10 [07:16] xdunlapx: looks like it uses xpdf here to show the preview [07:39] how to select an application for opening links in thunderbird on Kubuntu 11.10.when I click on any links in thunderbird it asks me to choose an application? [08:19] morning [08:43] Hello, I installed kubuntu-desktop out of Ubuntu 11.10 but i have no possibility to shut down my computer via the Main menu like it is possible if i'd install Kubuntu directly, what did i forget? [08:46] the only option i have is to logout and shutdown computer via lightdm [08:46] or directly on the terminal [08:50] my kubuntu 11.10 install says i only have 2.4g of ram when i have 6gigs [08:50] i have reinstalled but to no avail [08:51] i installed ubuntu 11.10 on here and didn't have that problem [08:51] i'm curious as to why this happened, i've googled it and came up with nothing [09:33] hi [09:47] I am currently on a corporate network which requires me to use a proxy autoconfiguration file (.PAC) to set up proxy settings, before I can access outside HTTP/HTTPS. How do I configure apt-get/aptitude to use these proxy settings? Please note that I cannot just use the http_proxy env variable as I have to use the PAC file. I have opened the PAC file, but it is non-trivial. It is not just "use this proxy". It is more like: "use this proxy for these ne === Cradan is now known as Cradam [10:11] hi all, how do i install kubuntu alongside ubuntu [10:11] ? [10:15] just install kubuntu desktop [10:15] then you can choose on login which session would you like to use [10:15] gdm or kdm [10:20] sirfilip, thank you! [10:21] np === Guest27816 is now known as Mamarok [10:28] Hi [10:28] how to select an application for opening links in thunderbird on Kubuntu 11.10.when I click on any links in thunderbird it asks me to choose an application? [10:29] and when I click select application it doesn't opens the application selection dialog but the chose a file dialog [10:38] Fixed the first one ActionParsnip , I moved to usr/bin/firefox in selection dialog and It works [10:42] hey there [10:43] can anybody point me to the replacement for qanta in oneiric ? [10:43] hi. there's a strange issue with the wifi card after upgrading to 11.10, all wlan's show up in network manager but not the one, I was connected to before upgrading,... laptop is HP625 [10:48] none ? ok thanks [11:15] software sources seems to have enabled proposed updates on 11.10 of its own accord, and won't let me disable it - if I uncheck the box, it rechecks itself. before I edit sources.list myself, is this deliberate? [11:30] Good morning, I installed compiz-fusion last night, but I can't get compiz to start, when I try it gives me a segmentation fault and goofs things up and I have to reboot teh machine. Any ideas? [11:31] don't use it; KWin already has all the bling-bling === jtheuer_ is now known as jtheuer [12:02] Quanta+ doesn't exist anymore ? [12:11] anyone know how to makersyslogd write into a database instead of or in addition to text files [12:15] I just spent 6 hours doing a read-write badblock check on a drive with mkfs.ext4 yesterday, now I'm installing with the alternate CD in non-X/ncurses mode. [12:15] How can I be sure that the installer doesn't try and do a normal format on the partition? [12:16] Even formatting with a read-only badblock check would defeat the purpose, so I'm basically trying not to let yesterday's hard work go to waste. [12:17] And until I know, I'm afraid to go further with the disk partitioning/choosing section out of concerns it will start formatting and bork everything. === yofel_ is now known as yofel [13:14] I like you [13:14] * alexdevillx Hello [13:14] Ok, how did he make this? [13:15] http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LmaWCXo1QFE/SxWEcvCcxFI/AAAAAAAAJLM/Q7uNTVRObOQ/s1600/welcome2l.png [13:17] wait is [13:19] hey guys [13:19] sudo welcome2l > /etc/motd cant [13:20] no permission === Linkmaster is now known as Guest48231 [13:29] Hiyas all === fitoria_ is now known as fitoria [13:30] hey BluesKaj [13:30] hi Guest48231 === Guest48231 is now known as Linkmaster [13:30] err Linkmaster [13:31] Hi all [13:31] There we go, my connection must've reset(and I didn't notice, so I couldn't identify) === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [14:20] hi all, when I look for software to install from muon software center, I can't find it. What am I doning wrong, please? [14:25] lelamal: try using the Muon Package manager, it will show a bigger selection. What are you looking for? [14:25] I'll try that now [14:26] claydoh: thanks that worked, except for skype [14:26] I can't find it [14:28] lelamal: you my have to enable the Partners repository in the Software Sources for that [14:29] I see them checked, I must have enabled it earlier [14:31] !skype [14:31] To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga [14:31] lelamal: there's a known bug in muon about not finding skype in oneiric [14:32] lelamal: please use 'sudo apt-get install skype' in Konsole for that [14:32] yofel: many thanks for the links, I'll give them a read now [14:33] thanks BluesKaj [15:16] is the ubuntu store in kubuntu 11.10? [15:16] if so, what is it called? [15:16] how do I get to it? [15:18] jedix, http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=917 [15:26] is anybody around here? [15:27] jedix: I don't believe it is in kubuntu [15:27] rapalino: After you ask a specific support question someone might try to answer :) [15:28] kubuntu ! [15:29] holas , soy nueva usando ubuntu ,y tengo have the problem [15:29] !es | violeta [15:29] violeta: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [15:29] SailorTom , check my post above [15:30] genii-around: ok thanks... i'll tell you a few problems that i've been having aroung here... [15:31] ubottu: gracias [15:32] in kubuntu 11.10, idk how, but in desktop... the tab in the right corner at the top must say "Desktop", in my case, it says "unnamed"... does anybody knows how to fix it? thanks... === Girly-Girl is now known as GirlyGirl [16:02] Hi. I had trouble upgrading to Oneiric. The upgrade stopped at some point & now I seem to be unable to complete it. [16:03] skramer_: Try "sudo apt-get install -f" [16:04] GirlyGirl: Already tried, but it says there's no packages to upgrade... [16:05] skramer_: Please define "unable to complete it". [16:06] I tried "dpkg --configure -a", but all that did was some configuration of flashplugin [16:06] So how do you know the upgrade is incomplete? [16:07] SailorTom: it's also not in apt.. [16:08] "uname -r" replies 2.6.38-11-generic [16:08] which means it still uses the Natty kernel [16:08] jedix: I'm a purely kde user so I can't say I've ever used it [16:09] skramer_: You need to reboot to use new kernel ... try lsb_release -a [16:10] skramer: How did you upgrade to 11.10? [16:10] "lsb_release -a" says that it should be Oneiric [16:10] Did you reboot? [16:10] but still I have the problem it uses the old kernel, even after reboot [16:11] skramer_: Do you have more than one hard drive? Is Oneiric GRUB installed on your boot drive? [16:12] SailorTom: me either [16:12] SailorTom: just saw an ebook/mag sales will be there too.. I'd like to try that [16:15] jedix: Is the package software-center not it? [17:06] Did anything major change since 11.04? I know Unity changed, but what happened on the KDE side of life? [17:07] KDE 4.7 [17:08] okay, I can read up on that then. Anything major in the distro that causes trouble with battery life (like Natty sucked out a lot of life …)? [17:08] No idea. [17:11] systemclient: still no bug fix for battery draining [17:12] szal: okay, but it is not worse than before? [17:15] uhu, Digicam 2.0 :D [17:15] that sounds fun [17:17] did anyone with an nVidia 9500 GT or similar have any problems with the proprietary driver? [17:17] nope [17:18] got one, no problems [17:18] awsome [17:18] I got a big pain with XOrg 1.11 on Debian Testing … [17:18] uhh..but I'm runnung 10.04 [17:19] oh, I mean with 11.10, since I got a little conservative with updates … [17:19] systemclient: I'm running a 9600GT on 11.10 with no issues [17:19] Sentynel: okay, that is great :) [17:19] hey guys i cant enable desktop effects with opengl D: [17:19] im stuck with Xrender [17:19] g3org3___: what grafics card, did you install a driver from the vendor? [17:20] i installed Kubuntu-full [17:20] and stuff from nvidia got installed [17:20] g3org3___: okay, did you install anything with "additional drivers"? [17:21] i dont think so... [17:21] it worked before installing kubuntu-full [17:21] g3org3___: well, the open source drivers are not as powerful as the nvidia drivers [17:21] i dont use nvidia graphics [17:21] g3org3___: what did you do "before"? [17:21] g3org3___: what graphics do you use? [17:22] intel integrated [17:22] on an HP Mini 210 [17:22] g3org3___: oh, those should work quite good out of the box [17:22] g3org3___: I have an Asus Eee with an Intel Card and that works with KWin … [17:23] is anybody available to answer me a few questions? [17:23] yea! [17:23] rapalino: just ask your questiong :) [17:23] go on [17:23] g3org3___: could you post your config (I'll search for the file)? [17:24] more like the X log would be nice [17:24] /var/log/Xorg.0.log [17:24] g3org3___: ^ [17:24] .kde/share/config/kwinrc [17:24] g3org3___: ^ [17:24] hold on.... [17:25] ok i've been having some little problems... for example... the "tab" in the right corner at the top called "Desktop", in my case, it's called "unnamed"... [17:25] how can I fix this? [17:25] rapalino: I assume you created an activity called "unnamed" [17:25] rapalino: click on it -> activities [17:26] click on the wrench of the activity that's called 'unnamed' [17:26] change name to something else, apply [17:27] I mean, in the desktop screen at kubuntu, when you add widgets... the button normally reads "desktop"... [17:27] systemclient: first im gonna uninstall anything relating to nvidia and ATI to fix this [17:27] mine reads "unnamed"... [17:27] g3org3___: if your /etc/X11/xorg.conf has something with nvidia in it remove that too (or just the whole file) [17:28] note that nvidia-common doesn't need to be removed [17:30] does anybody speak spanish around here? [17:31] :( [17:32] rapalino: si, pero voy a comer, y regreso [17:32] shane2peru: ok :( [17:35] how can I change the background image on GRUB? anybody knows how? [17:35] There is some kind of problem with kde auth? [17:36] Everything that needs auth to the superuser doesn't work [17:37] "this operation can not continue because it was not given a proper authorization" [17:38] killown: did you install kubuntu from ubuntu? [17:44] killown: are you in the sudo group?` [17:45] and how do you give auth ? [17:48] yofel yes [17:48] systemclient, I do [17:48] killown: install polkit-kde-1 from apt, then logout. After that it'll work [17:49] yofel, thanks a lot [17:57] Hey i installed fglrx because a dependency in kubuntu-full installed it and X aint workin :( [17:57] It says /etc/modprobe/modprobe.d/fglrx.conf not found [18:04] George left the channel without waiting for an answer … [18:04] Impatience. === tbriskod is now known as tormabri [18:05] good evening [18:08] is it possible to change the background to GRUB? [18:08] probably yes [18:09] rapalino: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager [18:11] oh thanks!... this is a helpfull tutorial... [18:11] :] [18:12] rapalino: You're welcome! [18:12] rapalino: Basically, put your background in /boot/grub , add line: GRUB_BACKGROUND=/boot/grub/your-background-pic-name-here then sudo update-grub [18:14] how do i fire up the cron daemon...i tried "crond" but it didnt work? [18:15] hexacode: cron should be running by default [18:15] what are you trying to do? [18:16] hexacode: use service command [18:17] hexacode: I think sudo service cron start [18:18] yup [18:19] Everytime when I start up, the volume is in "mute", then I have to increase the volume and everything goes allright... but even if I have it on high, when i restart, again is in mute... ? [18:21] hi everyone [18:21] ah thanks [18:21] rapalino alsactl store && alsactl restore [18:21] rapalino: in kmix, there is a "restore volume on start" option [18:22] hey i think im cron is broken [18:22] its already running [18:23] and was running earlier, but it seems like its not triggering my script [18:23] anyone ever have cron act wierd like that? [18:23] hexacode: then the log files should give you some insights [18:23] im going to bin. hold up [18:23] systemclient: wheres the default location for cron logs [18:23] i tried /var/log [18:23] systemclient: that option must be marked or unmarked?... mine is marked... [18:24] rapalino: hmm, I marked it and it was fide [18:24] rapalino: on another install, I just deleted all pulse cookies, but that was Gnome … [18:24] Is installing something like osssec on a personal netbook overkill or does it do any good? [18:25] i just install kubuntu, the interface menu is inglish but my google is in catalan, i tried to set it in english but it still stay in catalan [18:25] on rekonq [18:25] romeyro: that is a known thing, I try to find something about it [18:25] systemclient: ok I unmarked it, i'll try to reboot system and i'll tell you... [18:25] rapalino: good luck! [18:26] romeyro: okay, I found something about Firefox and Cherokee … https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580833 [18:26] Mozilla bug 580833 in Preferences "Cherokee language code transmitted to google" [Minor,Unconfirmed: ] [18:26] systemclient: its kinda my first time on KDE i use to stay on gnome [18:26] systemclient: thank you i ll let you know about this [18:27] romeyro: what is your native language? [18:27] systemclient: its french but i use more english [18:28] romeyro: okay, there is no reason for it display catalan then [18:28] hexacode: /var/log/syslog has the cron activities in it [18:29] thanks [18:30] hexacode: how did you tell cron to run the script? [18:30] ok im not finding the error..i did see some but all seems to be fine with cron...im going to bin everything im doing, maybe someone can help me find my problem...the unusual thing is that it was running fine at 10:28 this morning then it seems to have continued to run, but the only difference is that the script it triggered wasnt writing to a file anymore...so i triggered the script manualy and it wrote to the file just fine.. [18:31] yofel ill bin [18:31] hold on [18:33] sorry .. hold on a bit longer. this is gonna take a bit === paolo_ is now known as faLUCE [18:35] hey what's difference between Apper and Moon? aren't both the same thing? [18:35] Muon* [18:38] rapalino: apper is the old kpackagekit and uses packagekit as backend. Muon uses libqapt. So they both do the same thing, just differently [18:38] ok i got my crontab data into pastebin...just a recap though..i cant figure out why my cron isnt working...when i fire up the bash file manually, it works fine and outputs to a file called tester but when cron tries to run the file, nothing is output to tester...at first it was working, then it stopped working at 10:28 heres the pastebin http://pastebin.com/F9ZzwbtM [18:39] in the tester.sh file line 28, thats when i started firing off the bash script manually and it seemd to write just fine to tester [18:42] * yofel tries on his system [18:42] so anyone know wat it could be? [18:42] thanks yofel [18:42] ROTFLMAO! [18:43] I've just watched windows7 ad on Discovery Channel [18:43] is that such crap it requires tv ads? [18:43] Wizard: -> #kubuntu-offtopic [18:44] lol windows 7 ad [18:44] yofel it works fired manually right? [18:44] the bash script [18:45] my cron fired it earlier too but then it stopped at 1028 [18:45] hm, created one of my own - so far cron ran it fine 3 times in 3 minutes [18:45] hmm [18:45] so wat could it be on my end? [18:45]