| lifeless | sbuild. Through the web ui | 00:01 |
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| odin_ | ubuntu 11.10 doesn't have "sbuild" package | 00:06 |
| StevenK | Package: sbuild | 00:07 |
| StevenK | Priority: extra | 00:07 |
| StevenK | Section: universe/devel | 00:07 |
| odin_ | thanks I restarted software centre and it found it now | 00:07 |
| odin_ | I got sbuild installed, are you saying there is a web UI with it ? or maybe sbuild-shell ? | 00:19 |
| tumbleweed | there isn't. It isn't at all user friendly | 00:21 |
| odin_ | so it is possible to rename a branch ? | 00:23 |
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| lifeless | odin_: in the web ui | 01:16 |
| odin_ | I am logged in and able to goto the group | 01:18 |
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| afranke | Hi. | 07:03 |
| afranke | Is it normal that as a team admin I can't change my own expiration date and I have to bug someone else to take care of that? | 07:03 |
| odin_ | is there a trick to creating a orig.tar.gz for source package from a dailydeb ? like can I edit debian/rules and make a target for orig.tar.gz to be "bzr export orig.tar.gz" ? | 07:07 |
| tumbleweed | odin_: only native packages can be built from dailydeb | 07:41 |
| odin_ | what is a native package ? | 07:41 |
| odin_ | we have one tree from git => bzr, mirrored | 07:42 |
| tumbleweed | maybe it's time to read some packaging documentation? | 07:42 |
| odin_ | I have another tree with 'debian/**' sub-folder | 07:42 |
| odin_ | recipe seems to pull both in together | 07:42 |
| tumbleweed | yes, I know what recipes do :) | 07:43 |
| odin_ | only issue is it just needs to make a source package from what it started with | 07:43 |
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| odin_ | can't seem to: run bzr export orig.tar.gz . | 07:43 |
| odin_ | from receipe | 07:43 |
| tumbleweed | use the 3.0 (native) source format | 07:43 |
| tumbleweed | if you need quilt patches, you'll have to manually invoke quilt in rules | 07:44 |
| odin_ | I have in the past few hours converted patches to quilt so that works | 07:45 |
| odin_ | debian/source/format => "3.0 (quilt)" | 07:46 |
| tumbleweed | as I said, only native packages can be built in dailydeb | 07:46 |
| odin_ | native to what? ubuntu? debian packaging ? launchpad ? | 07:47 |
| tumbleweed | native source packages don't have a .orig.tar.gz, only a .tar.gz | 07:51 |
| odin_ | ok but I want to get away from the notion I have some kind of tarball to start with, my sources are never a tarball only a bzr branch | 07:52 |
| odin_ | now the source system needs to make a tarball on the fly for the source package | 07:52 |
| tumbleweed | yes, that's what dailydeb will do | 07:54 |
| odin_ | I can't see anything significantlly different exception the debian/source/format file between the sample4_1.0.tar.gz and my package | 07:55 |
| tumbleweed | is that a question? | 07:55 |
| odin_ | exception my debian/rules does things manually since it is not a "make" app | 07:55 |
| odin_ | no those lines are statements | 07:56 |
| odin_ | does native format use recipie's ? | 08:01 |
| odin_ | how do I "nest" twice, one for the "upstream" | 08:02 |
| odin_ | and one for the "debian" folder | 08:02 |
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| odin_ | bzr dailydeb gives me "ERROR: No such tag: upstream-4.7.4" | 08:16 |
| odin_ | but I'm not asking it to pull a tag, I want HEAD of master for both bzr trees | 08:17 |
| odin_ | Doh! didn't push the change to source/format | 08:19 |
| odin_ | still get error, and debian/source/format is set "3.0 (native)" | 08:23 |
| jamespharaoh | hi, question about bzr branches and launchpad... i'm trying to create my own branches of compiz. i've created a branch of /ubuntu/oneiric/compiz at ~jamespharaoh/ubuntu/oneiric/compiz/branch-name but can't seem to create one of /ubuntu/compiz at ~jamespharaoh/ubuntu/compiz/branch-name. how am I supposed to create custom branches of the trunk like this? | 08:25 |
| jtv | afranke: expiration date for what, exactly? | 08:26 |
| odin_ | my guess is, you use "bzr branch lp:/ubuntu/compiz" and make changes... the bzr add/commit... then "bzr push lp:~jamespharaoh/ubuntu/compiz/branch-name" ? | 08:27 |
| jamespharaoh | james@simba:~/projects/other/compiz/ubuntu$ bzr push lp:~jamespharaoh/ubuntu/compiz/focus-follows-mouse | 08:27 |
| jamespharaoh | bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:~jamespharaoh/ubuntu/compiz/focus-follows-mouse": No such distribution series compiz. | 08:27 |
| odin_ | and does "bzr push lp:~jamespharaoh/ubuntu__compiz__focus-follows-mouse" work ? | 08:28 |
| jamespharaoh | well yes but it doesn't link it properly | 08:28 |
| afranke | jtv, team membership? | 08:28 |
| odin_ | and does "bzr push lp:~jamespharaoh/+ubuntu/+compiz/focus-follows-mouse" work ? | 08:29 |
| afranke | jtv, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-l10n-fr/+members#active | 08:29 |
| jamespharaoh | odin_: no but i think i just worked it out... the trunk is actually the precise distro | 08:30 |
| jtv | afranke: I don't know, to be honest. It's a good question. | 08:30 |
| jamespharaoh | odin_: so there's a disparity between the main branch urls and the public ones... lp:ubuntu/compiz becomes lp:~jamespharaoh/ubuntu/precise/compiz | 08:30 |
| jtv | afranke: It seems arbitrary, although in my experience any choice is arbitrary since it's almost always a guess about the future. | 08:30 |
| jamespharaoh | odin_: i've just pushed it there and it shows up in the right place on this page https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz ;-) | 08:30 |
| jamespharaoh | odin_: thanks anyway | 08:31 |
| afranke | jtv, I'm confused by that situation. What happens when teams have only one admin… can they lose their admin? | 08:31 |
| jtv | afranke: an admin is a special position; it's not a membership in the normal sense. So almost certainly not. | 08:32 |
| odin_ | do I need to use this "bzt dailydeb" with --allow-fallback-to-native ? | 08:35 |
| odin_ | I have changed the file debian/source/format surely now I am native ? | 08:35 |
| wgrant | afranke: Teams have an owner, separate from their members and admins. | 08:43 |
| wgrant | afranke: The owner doesn't have to be a member or an admin, but they have all powers that an admin has, plus more: they can create new admins, and change expiration details of existing ones. | 08:43 |
| wgrant | The owner doesn't expire. | 08:43 |
| odin_ | can anyone name a problem that is updated once a week (at some upstream/remote SCM system) and it automatically rebuild on launchpad without human intervention | 08:44 |
| wgrant | So they can always recover the team if war breaks out between the admins and they demote each other, or if they all expire somehow. | 08:44 |
| odin_ | s/problem/package/ | 08:44 |
| afranke | wgrant, what if the owner becomes inactive? | 08:45 |
| wgrant | afranke: Then you're in trouble, and need to ask a Launchpad administrator to transfer the ownership. | 08:45 |
| afranke | Ok. | 08:45 |
| wgrant | The owner can also be a team, but obviously eventually you have to have a root team which is a single person. | 08:46 |
| wgrant | which is *owned* by a single person. | 08:46 |
| odin_ | everything I look at "No recipes using this branch" are recipies bad or something ? | 08:46 |
| afranke | wgrant, ok, thanks for the info. | 08:47 |
| afranke | wgrant, so, just to check… it's by design that admins can change expiration date for other admins but not their own, right? | 08:48 |
| wgrant | afranke: Well, depends what you mean by "design". | 08:48 |
| wgrant | It is intentional :) | 08:48 |
| odin_ | ROFL my karma is into the many 100s and I have not done anything useful yet, maybe I get 10k before end of the week at this rate | 08:50 |
| odin_ | does my "nest packaging lp:~me/foo debian" have to use the name "packaging" does it have a special meaning, other than an arbitrary label ? | 09:15 |
| odin_ | what is the correct debian/rule to write to run quilt, would it be correct to have: "export QUILT_PATCHES=debian/patches" and then "quilt push -a" in the Makefile debian/rules ? | 09:30 |
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| jamespharaoh | question about ppas and version numbers. i want to create a ppa with some modified packages from the core distro. firstly does that make sense? secondly how do i manage the version numbers. do i just keep mine one ahead of the ubuntu ones (-ubuntu1 becomes -ubuntu2) or should i append something (-ubunut1-james1), or what? | 10:21 |
| bigjools | jamespharaoh: most people use +ppaN or ~ppaN | 10:22 |
| odin_ | why does "uname -p" on the build system return "x86_64" but it installed the i386 packages ? | 10:32 |
| odin_ | i.e. the default should surely be 64bit package versions for a 64bit host, and 32bit package versions for a 32bit host | 10:32 |
| odin_ | maybe "uname -p" is more correct | 10:38 |
| Daviey | uname -p is not safe. | 10:39 |
| Daviey | dave@javelin:~$ uname -p | 10:39 |
| Daviey | athlon | 10:39 |
| odin_ | agreed crappy idea | 10:40 |
| Daviey | odin_: i think you want, dpkg --print-architecture | 10:40 |
| odin_ | what I really want is the GCC label | 10:41 |
| odin_ | i686-linux-gnu or x86_64-linux-gnu | 10:41 |
| odin_ | but first.... why does a 64bit CPU run a 64bit Kernel then install only 32bit packages, that is stupid | 10:41 |
| odin_ | haha its x86_64 all the way | 10:43 |
| odin_ | it this just an issue with the source package builders... they are 64bit but do not install any 64bit userspace ? | 10:46 |
| wgrant | What's the problem with 32-bit userspace on a 64-bit kernel? | 10:46 |
| odin_ | files are in the wrong place | 10:47 |
| wgrant | We need to build some 32-bit packages. A 32-bit userspace is best for that. | 10:47 |
| wgrant | Huh? | 10:47 |
| wgrant | You shouldn't be looking at the kernel to determine architecture. | 10:47 |
| odin_ | what should it be looking at? | 10:47 |
| odin_ | and how does that work on dual archi systems | 10:47 |
| wgrant | It's very rare that you want to do this yourself. | 10:48 |
| wgrant | Are you not using standard build tools that automate this/ | 10:48 |
| wgrant | ? | 10:48 |
| odin_ | which thing? to configure my complex package ? | 10:48 |
| wgrant | You could use output from dpkg-architecture, if you insist on doing this manually. | 10:49 |
| odin_ | hint the package uses, Qt qmake, Java javac, GCC make | 10:49 |
| wgrant | But it is a very rare package that needs such things. | 10:49 |
| odin_ | its not an ./autoconfig && make affait | 10:50 |
| odin_ | *affair | 10:50 |
| odin_ | ok $DEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU looks good are these variable already set when debian/rules is run ? | 10:51 |
| odin_ | or do I: eval $(dpkg-architecture) | 10:52 |
| wgrant | `dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU` should do. | 10:53 |
| wgrant | but seriously reconsider your build system. | 10:53 |
| odin_ | heh | 10:54 |
| odin_ | project is 1,253,514 lines of code, feel free to send me patches to simplify that build system | 10:55 |
| soren | odin_: "uname -m" is what you want. | 10:58 |
| soren | odin_: It gives you the personality of the current kernel. | 10:58 |
| odin_ | I tried, but source builder is 64bit OS but only installs 32bit DEBs, what I am after is what the userspace claims to be, so it can find libraries to auto-detect features | 10:59 |
| soren | odin_: uname -m should give you a 32 bit answer on the i386 builders. | 10:59 |
| odin_ | I think this $DEB_BUILD_GNU_CPU should do it, it if reports same as user-space | 10:59 |
| soren | Even if the kernel is actually a 64 bit one. | 10:59 |
| soren | (thanks to linux32) | 11:00 |
| odin_ | no that I have just seen | 11:00 |
| odin_ | uname -m = "x86_64" but the buildlog shows only i386 DEBs | 11:00 |
| soren | Do you have logs that show this? | 11:00 |
| odin_ | yup https://code.launchpad.net/~qtjambi-community/+archive/libqtjambi-snapshots/+recipebuild/106930/+files/buildlog.txt.gz | 11:02 |
| wgrant | odin_: That's a source build. | 11:03 |
| odin_ | scrolls to very end for UNAME outputs and then search back for another reference to x86_64 | 11:03 |
| odin_ | yes indeed | 11:03 |
| wgrant | Only binary builds are run under linux32. | 11:03 |
| wgrant | Because source builds really shouldn't be arch-dependent... | 11:04 |
| odin_ | why does it run a "make clean" anyhow ? | 11:04 |
| wgrant | It calls debian/rules clean. | 11:05 |
| wgrant | What debian/rules does is up to you. | 11:05 |
| wgrant | In this case, possibly nothing at all. | 11:05 |
| odin_ | in order to run the "clean" task of the package, it requires to know the arch | 11:06 |
| wgrant | You probably need to detect that it's already clean and not call the upstream clean target. | 11:06 |
| odin_ | yeah I think I can make it do that, is there a target called on debian/rules during a soruce build, like a "prepare" or a "init", I want to ensure it always runs "quilt push -a" | 11:09 |
| odin_ | ah maybe "get-orig-source" would be a fair target | 11:11 |
| odin_ | thanks for help past source package generation, should be ok now | 11:35 |
| dpm | hi jtv-afk (or any losa) could you arrange a full translations export for oneiric? We need to generate full language packs earlier than scheduled. The export has already been requested on the language packs page, it's just a matter of triggering the cron job. More details here: https://dev.launchpad.net/Translations/LanguagePackSchedule | 12:47 |
| gnuoy | dpm, I'll take a look | 12:47 |
| dpm | thanks a lot, gnuoy | 12:48 |
| gnuoy | dpm, its running now | 12:57 |
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| dpm | gnuoy, thanks a lot! | 13:01 |
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| jtv | dpm, gnuoy: I'm back. Would be interested to know how long that language pack takes. | 13:05 |
| gnuoy | jtv, sure, hopefully the log will tell us (if I'm not about when it finishes) | 13:05 |
| dpm | jtv, gnuoy, they seem to take ~16h these days. Hopefully it will be ready before the database disconnect tomorrow morning, otherwise it will get interrupted and will need to be started anew | 13:06 |
| jtv | gnuoy: good point. | 13:06 |
| jtv | Just thinking it's something we may want to start worrying about again. | 13:06 |
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| johan | Hi, is it possible to rename a project in launchpad? | 13:30 |
| bigjools | johan: yes we can do that if you file a Question | 13:34 |
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| odin_ | how do I make the target "patch" get run either during source generation of before "build" ? | 16:54 |
| odin_ | how do you cancel a sheduled build in launchpad? | 17:10 |
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| christoffer | I can't get the OpenID link to work properly. I'm trying to login to Disqus with the OpenID link from launchpad. Is "https://launchpad.net/~your-nickname" still the correct OpenID url to use? | 18:26 |
| lifeless | christoffer: that should still work, yes. Though really login.ubuntu.com is the backing service, its probably better to use it directly | 18:41 |
| christoffer | lifeless: Ok, thank you. | 19:27 |
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| odin_ | is there a known mechanism to maintain a single debian/** tree for multiple versions of debian based distributions? i.e. how can I manage the "control" file better? | 22:38 |
| odin_ | looks like "Build-Depends: foobar [!something]" might be useful but what are the valid "something" for Ubuntu/launchpad ? | 22:41 |
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