[14:58] <dholbach> o/
[14:59] <dholbach> o/~
[15:00] <jono> alright
[15:00] <jono> #startmeeting
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[15:01] <jono> welcome everyone to the Canonical Community Team meeting
[15:01] <jono> our second IRC meeting!
[15:01] <jono> as usual, we will spin through some round-tables first, and this time I will ask if there are any questions at the end of each roundtable
[15:01] <jono> we will then propose and discuss any agenda items
[15:02] <jono> feel free to chip in and ask questions or make comments
[15:02] <jono> dholbach, want to get this party started?
[15:02] <dholbach> sure
[15:02] <jono> :-)
[15:02] <dholbach> • dev survey: done with report: http://people.canonical.com/~dholbach/11.10-dev-docs-survey.pdf - wanted to have jono have a second look over it before publishing it
[15:02] <dholbach> • uds: set up blueprints, some still left to file
[15:02] <dholbach> • fixed sponsoring stats "hours in queue" script, unfortunately old data was broken for a while, had to restart with new data
[15:02] <dholbach> • did some sponsoring (with the useful side-benefit to test the above script)
[15:02] <dholbach> • CC handover completed
[15:02] <dholbach> • tried to get hold of Emmet: found out he's ill and taking a break
[15:02] <dholbach> • catch up call with Jono
[15:02] <dholbach> • started estimating required time for projects for 12.04 to better plan
[15:02] <dholbach> • noticed less activity in the ubuntu packaging guide, blogged about it and had 3 merge proposals coming in
[15:02] <dholbach> • weekly dev update
[15:02] <dholbach> • the usual big heaps of this and that
[15:03] <jono> ahh so we made contact with Emmet?
[15:03] <jono> that's good to hear
[15:03] <jono> any questions for dholbach?
[15:04] <dholbach> I got in touch with somebody who did, but yes :)
[15:04] <jono> cool :-)
[15:05] <jono> ok, no questions
[15:05] <jono> dholbach is off the hook
[15:05] <jono> :-)
[15:05] <jono> next up, dpm!
[15:05] <dpm> o/
[15:05] <dpm> * 2 Ubuntu Open Week talks:
[15:06] <dpm> - How to get started translating Ubuntu
[15:06] <dpm> - How to write your first app
[15:06] <dpm> People seemed to get quite excited about the second one, especially when they found out that they had created an app and it was working :)
[15:06] <dpm> * Finished off 12.04 roadmap
[15:06]  * dholbach hugs dpm
[15:06] <dpm> :)
[15:06] <dpm> * Filed all blueprints for UDS
[15:06] <dpm> * Call with skaet and jibel to discuss localized ISOs pre-UDS
[15:07] <dpm> * Started a conversation with chriscoulson, pitti and others to find a solution for Thunderbird translations not being installed automatically in oneiric
[15:07] <jono> what is the current status on the localized ISOs?
[15:07] <dpm> The tools are there, they need wider testing and we need to figure out a policy for publishing the isos
[15:08] <dpm> I filed a blueprint to tackle those at UDS
[15:08] <dpm> and from my testing, the tools are working
[15:08] <jono> awesome!
[15:08] <dpm> OEM tested them too to generate their Chinese ISO,
[15:08] <dpm> but they ended up doing more customizations on top of that
[15:09] <jono> sounds good
[15:09] <dpm> ok, next:
[15:09] <dpm> * Reviewed language pack update schedule for Oneiric (created by TLE)
[15:09] <dpm> * Helped the web design team organizing some translations
[15:09] <dpm> for a part of the website
[15:10] <dpm> (this is not about ubuntu.com becoming translated)
[15:10] <dpm> * Prepared lightning talks and community app developer plans in preparation for the Consumer Software sprint next Thursday
[15:10] <dpm> * Updated the API docs publisher script on developer.ubuntu.com to be more clever guessing the type of document published and be more automatic
[15:10] <dpm> * Could then publish the utouch-qml API documentation as a result of that work
[15:11] <dpm> * Updated the developer.ubuntu.com/api page links and restructured the layout
[15:11] <dpm> I think that was mostly me this week
[15:12] <jono> thanks dpm
[15:12] <jono> so why are Thunderbird translations not being automatically imported?
[15:13] <jono> dpm ^
[15:13] <dpm> jono, for one Launchpad does not support their format, but the main issue seems to be with installing them (we get them from upstream and package them):
[15:13] <dpm> so the current package containing translations
[15:14] <jono> ahhh gotcha
[15:14] <dpm> seems to have a dependency problem
[15:14] <jono> what is the plan to solve the issue?
[15:14] <dpm> we're still talking about it, but it seems that one way to go forward is to update update-manager
[15:14] <dpm> so that
[15:15] <dpm> it explicitly checks for missing language packs when installing Thunderbird
[15:15] <jono> gotcha
[15:15] <jono> thanks dpm
[15:15] <dpm> and then goes and install them
[15:15] <jono> any questions for dpm?
[15:16] <jono> alrighty!
[15:16] <jono> hmm where is Jorge?
[15:17] <jono> I just pinged him
[15:17] <jono> no response
[15:18] <jono> ok I will go next
[15:18] <jono> I had a few days off last week on Thu and Fri
[15:18] <jono> although spent it recording and writing
[15:18] <jono> we have had a few changes recently:
[15:18] <jono>  * Ahmed Kamal resigned last week and Jorge is now taking over his role as Ubuntu Cloud Community Coordinator - I will be backfilling for an Upstream Coordinator - more on this soon. Jorge's focus in this cycle will be on growing a charms community and growing cloud.ubuntu.com
[15:18] <jono> we wish Ahmed the best for the future
[15:19] <jono>  * As mentioned last week, Eric Ward decided his new role was not for him, and I will be recruiting a QA Community Coordinator. More on this soon too.
[15:19] <jono> - Final UDS organizational bits and pieces
[15:19] <jono> getting everyone to finalize their sessions
[15:19] <jono> getting the Community track sessions for our team finalized and registered - everything appears to be in order now
[15:19] <jono> scheduling a Qt Q+A session
[15:19] <jono> Leadership Mini Conf scheduled and ready to roll
[15:19] <jono>  - been talking with the design team about increased community participation via 'experience' design and development
[15:19] <jono> more on this at UDS
[15:20] <jono> - spent some time this weekend summarizing the results of the Ubuntu Community Survey into the final report
[15:20] <jono> published the report on Sunday night, and response is generally very positive - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/10/24/ubuntu-community-survey-results/
[15:20] <jono> I have started blogging each day about different aspects of the report - did the first one yesterday on Leadership - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/10/24/ubuntu-community
[15:20] <jono> oops
[15:20] <jono> http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/10/24/ubuntu-community-survey-next-steps-leadership/
[15:20] <jono> - joined the Ubuntu Leadership Meeting and asked if they can help us with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BuildingCommunity - the team is going to be able to help generate more content.
[15:20] <jbicha> I appreciate the work done on the Community Survey!
[15:21] <jono> thanks jbicha!
[15:21] <jono> I think it is really going to help us fix some of these things
[15:21] <jono> thanks to akgraner, Darkwing, and others who are going to help out with BuildingCommunity
[15:21] <jono> - Synced up with Randall Ross - discussed growing leadership capacity in the community
[15:22] <jono> I love Randall
[15:22] <jono> - published the Ubuntu Accomplishments Spec at http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/10/25/ubuntu-accomplishments-system-spec/ and registered a blueprint
[15:22] <jono> Met up with Mako last night for coffee, was great to catch up
[15:22] <alourie> it was awesome!
[15:22] <jono> alourie, :-)
[15:22] <jono> you are awesome, my friend :-)
[15:22] <jono> I am taking off to Orlando today and will around a little less on IRC over the next few weeks
[15:22] <dholbach> question about the accomplishments spec: shall I add a subpage with the ideas for accomplishments I put together together with the QA team?
[15:23] <jono> dholbach, yeah, I wanted to discuss this as an agenda itme
[15:23] <jono> item
[15:23] <jono> that would be great
[15:23] <dholbach> adding a todo item
[15:23] <jono> thanks dholbach
[15:23] <jono> lets discuss this more in a few mins
[15:23]  * dholbach nods
[15:23] <jono> so any questions for me about these items?
[15:23] <alourie> jono: me ?? how so? :-)
[15:23] <rrnwexec> @jono: thanks for the love. likewise <3
[15:23] <meetingology> rrnwexec: Error: "jono:" is not a valid command.
[15:24]  * jono hugs rrnwexec
[15:24] <dholbach> haha :)
[15:24]  * dholbach hugs meetingology
[15:24] <jono> jono is never a valid command
[15:24] <jono> :-)
[15:24] <rrnwexec> jono: thanks for the love. likewise <3  (yes, he's not a command, yet)
[15:24] <alourie> I have question about accomplishments
[15:24] <dpm> jono, I do have a question:
[15:24] <dpm> I'll let alourie go first
[15:24] <jono> alourie, can you hold for a sec, I will raise an agenda item for that in a few mins
[15:24] <jono> dpm, shoot
[15:24] <dpm> ok
[15:25] <dpm> I need to schedule 2 Qt sessions as per the conversations with the Nokia Qt team:
[15:25] <dpm> - Qt Roadmap
[15:25] <alourie> sure
[15:25] <dpm> - Qt integration with Ubuntu tools
[15:25] <dpm> You mentioned you created a blueprint for Qt Q+A
[15:26] <jono> dpm, I didnt create a blueprint yet
[15:26] <jono> I have been talking with Mikko
[15:26] <jono> and it sounds like Mikko wants to do a Q+A
[15:26] <jono> dpm, you look after the other Nokia requested sessions and I will set of Mikko's
[15:27] <dpm> jono, sounds good
[15:27] <dpm> thanks
[15:27] <jono> dpm, oh, my bad
[15:27] <jono> he wants a Qt Roadmap session
[15:27] <jono> so it sounds like he will lead that one
[15:27] <jono> who is leading the integration session?
[15:27] <dpm> jono, I'm assuming Adam Weinrich and the Qt engineers
[15:28] <dpm> I'll schedule the session for them and can help with leading the session
[15:28] <jono> dpm, ok, can you follow up with Adam?
[15:28] <jono> thanks!
[15:28] <dpm> jono, I did already
[15:28] <jono> ok, so a few agenda items
[15:28] <jono> thanks dpm!
[15:29] <jono> first, dpm, dholbach, are your 12.04 blueprints all submitted?
[15:29] <dpm> jono, yes
[15:29] <dholbach> jono, most, I still have a question - can we discuss after the meeting?
[15:30] <jono> dholbach, sure
[15:30] <jono> ok, so next agenda item is the Ubuntu Accomplishments Spec
[15:30] <dholbach> great
[15:30] <jono> alourie, you had a question?
[15:31] <alourie> yes
[15:31] <alourie> I already have ideas around accomplishments
[15:32] <alourie> how can I contribute them?
[15:32] <alourie> and how can I participate?
[15:32] <alourie> (the spec page is immutable, so no comments could be made there)
[15:32] <alourie> oh!
[15:33] <jono> so when we first discussed the idea, we documented a bunch of different types of accomplishments
[15:33] <jono> and I asked dholbach to generate a list
[15:33] <jono> oh it can't be edited
[15:33] <jono> let me check
[15:33] <alourie> sure
[15:33] <alourie> and there's a funny mistake :-)
[15:33] <jono> you should be able to edit it
[15:33] <alourie> according to the current spec, dholbach will get all the trophies :-)
[15:33] <jono> haha
[15:33] <dholbach> well-deserved, if I might add
[15:34] <dholbach> :-P
[15:34] <jono> lol
[15:34] <alourie> sure
[15:34] <jono> dholbach, can you edit the page?
[15:34] <dholbach> hang on
[15:34] <sagaci> the spec looks editable
[15:34] <jono> sagaci, thanks
[15:34] <jono> alourie, so I recommend dholbach lists all the accomplishments we sketched out first
[15:34] <dholbach> yep, confirmed
[15:34] <jono> and then lets you know so you can expand on them
[15:34] <jono> sound good?
[15:35] <dholbach> I'll do that today - let's see how long it takes me to massage them into moinmoin
[15:35] <alourie> it's under the Ubuntu UK flow example
[15:35] <alourie> "... a trophy called Joe S. CoreDeveloper Kudos - 2nd September 2011 and this will appear in Daniel Holbach’s trophy cabinet"...
[15:35] <alourie> dholbach: deserved indeed :-)
[15:35] <jono> thanks dholbach
[15:35] <jono> would be cool to show the dependency chain still
[15:35] <sagaci> alourie: make sure you're logged into the wiki to edit
[15:35] <jono> i.e. this accomplishment is unlocked when this one is completed
[15:35] <alourie> ah...the magic of login
[15:35] <alourie> :-)
[15:35] <jono> so alourie, are you interested in coding this?
[15:36] <jono> dholbach, maybe if you could create a sub-page listing all the accomplishments, and another sub-page for development and project management discussion
[15:37] <dholbach> sure
[15:37] <jono> awesome!
[15:37] <jono> alright
[15:38] <jono> any more business?
[15:38] <dholbach> yep
[15:38] <dholbach> →→→ https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UCADay ←←←
[15:38] <jono> ahhh yeah
[15:38] <dholbach> please all raise awareness and participate! :)
[15:38] <jono> I read about this
[15:38] <jono> looks awesome
[15:38] <dholbach> it's awesome
[15:38] <jono> I think this is a *really cool* idea
[15:38] <jono> was great to see bkerensa's post on it on Planet
[15:38] <jono> and next week....UDS! woo!
[15:39] <dholbach> yeah :)
[15:39] <jono> ok, folks, let's  wrap it
[15:39] <jono> thanks for joining us!
[15:39] <jono> #endmeeting
[15:39] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 25 15:39:08 2011 UTC.
[15:39] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-10-25-15.00.moin.txt
[15:39] <dholbach> thanks everyone
[15:39] <alourie> ok then, I'll talk directly do dholbach about the ideas
[15:39] <alourie> is it ok, Daniel?
[15:40] <alourie> jono:  coding maybe
[15:40] <alourie> and everything else too
[15:40] <dholbach> alourie, sure - although I'm probably not the best person to talk to about the infrastructure
[15:41] <alourie> dholbach: no, not infrastracture, the accomplishment scenarios
[15:41] <dholbach> my input was very general back then and mostly consisted in bringing people's ideas for accomplishments into a digestible form
[15:41] <dholbach> ok
[15:41] <alourie> ok
[15:41] <dholbach> I'll let you know when I added the ideas to the wiki
[15:41] <alourie> sure
[15:41] <alourie> leave it open for comments then
[16:00] <smoser> o/
[16:00] <zul> hi
[16:00] <Daviey> o/
[16:01] <Daviey> #startmeeting
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[16:01] <RoAkSoAx> o.
[16:01] <RoAkSoAx> o/
[16:01] <lynxman> o/
[16:01] <hallyn> \o
[16:02] <Daviey> #topic Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:02] <Daviey> ALL: review http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html and make known any other bugs that need to be added to the list.
[16:02] <Daviey> So.. i didn't get much feedback from this item..
[16:03] <Daviey> we'll come back to this
[16:03] <Daviey> #topic smb, jamespage, hggdh to work on triaging bug 790712
[16:04] <Daviey> Did this make any progress?
[16:04] <jamespage> I don't think so
[16:05] <jamespage> (well at least not from me)
[16:05] <Daviey> we'll come back to that then, later on :(
[16:05] <Daviey> #topic utlemming to figure out qemu image situation (carry-over)
[16:05] <Daviey> utlemming isn't present.
[16:06] <Daviey> #topic
[16:06] <Daviey> #topic Precise Development
[16:06] <Daviey> Merge and sync difference is looking good, we seem on target.
[16:06] <Daviey> Specific issues being tracked:
[16:06] <Daviey> http://status.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:06] <robbiew> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+specs?role=assignee
[16:06] <robbiew> :)
[16:06] <Daviey> Shall we come back to specs?
[16:07] <Daviey> bug 881464, anyone want to handle an MIR?
[16:07] <utlemming> \o
[16:07] <smoser> did utlemming just raise his hand in response to "anyone want to handle an MIR?"
[16:07] <smoser> i think he did.
[16:07] <Daviey> utlemming: Have you handled a MIR before?
[16:08] <utlemming> ah....that's what I get for showing up late to a meeting
[16:08] <zul> Daviey: heh thats on my list for the openstack spec
[16:08]  * Daviey assigns utlemming, if you have any questions - fire them to zul :)
[16:08] <hallyn> if someone is looking for MIRs we have a bunch for spice dependencies :(
[16:08] <smoser> you're bringing donuts next week also.
[16:08] <Daviey> bug 858878 , rbasak - status?
[16:09] <hallyn> and on laundry duty
[16:09] <rbasak> it looks like it'd be a fairly extensive patch, and I found another security issue which I need to check as well. cobbler-web doesn't seem to have been written with security in mind
[16:10] <zul> rbasak: well it is a django app :)
[16:10] <Daviey> rbasak: that might have to be our approach
[16:10] <Daviey> zul: that is crap, django can be secure.
[16:10] <zul> Daviey: joking
[16:10] <rbasak> it seems to be using GET requests with side effects too
[16:10] <Daviey> rbasak: Do you want to take the discussion to upstream?
[16:10] <rbasak> though I need to verify this
[16:10] <rbasak> Daviey: yes
[16:10] <Daviey> cool
[16:11] <hallyn> zul: <ssssh, he ran out of coffee this morning, keep a low profile>
[16:11] <Daviey> jamespage: bug 801494 , we were waiting to see if it was a udev issue - any news that you know of?
[16:11] <RoAkSoAx> is the latest release/checkout/branch from the cobbler repo with these security issues?
[16:11] <jamespage> well the general opinion is that it is
[16:11] <jamespage> but that said I can't actually reproduce anymore
[16:11] <Daviey> jamespage: do you know if the discussion is ongoing?  Are we likely to get a fix for a1?
[16:12] <Daviey> jamespage: Ooo
[16:12] <Daviey> that sounds good.
[16:12] <Daviey> jamespage: can you confirm that you cannot reproduce it this week?
[16:12] <jamespage> yes
[16:12] <Daviey> (difficult question, i know)
[16:12] <Daviey> bug 858883, nobody assigned
[16:13] <Daviey> rbasak: is this one that would be good to include in the discussion upstream?
[16:13] <rbasak> for a general security discussion, yes, although it looks like this one *is* a simple one line patch
[16:13] <Daviey> oh good.
[16:13] <Daviey> rbasak: can you take ownership of that? :)
[16:14] <rbasak> OK
[16:14] <Daviey> bug 862558, no assignee - adam_g, is this something you want?
[16:14] <adam_g> Daviey: yes
[16:14] <adam_g> and the other cobbler-enlist one, too
[16:14] <Daviey> assigned. :)
[16:15] <adam_g> ty sir
[16:15] <Daviey> lynxman: bug 874981, status?
[16:15] <lynxman> Daviey: in progress, activemq is working, just need ot merge, will be done in the next 2 days tops, I'm finishing a whitepaper first that has higher priority from my boss :(
[16:16] <Daviey> rocking! thanks for your help lynxman
[16:16] <lynxman> Daviey: pleased to help :)
[16:16] <Daviey> bug 875818, blocked on MIR team review
[16:16] <Daviey> hallyn: bug 879636, status?
[16:16] <hallyn> working
[16:17] <hallyn> just looking through patches/, otherwise ready to build
[16:17] <Daviey> hallyn: great, uploaded by Friday?
[16:17] <hallyn> yup
[16:17] <Daviey> rocking
[16:17] <Daviey> thanks
[16:17] <hallyn> mp
[16:17] <Daviey> bug 879853 , zul - status?
[16:17] <zul> Daviey: ill fix it up today
[16:18] <Daviey> cool
[16:18] <Daviey> utlemming: bug 870121, is now Fix Released for Precise daily?
[16:18] <utlemming> yes sir
[16:18] <utlemming> the latest images should be fixed
[16:19] <Daviey> groovy, can you flip the status?  Thanks
[16:19] <utlemming> doing it now
[16:19] <Daviey> bug 875262, koolhead17 was working on.. are you here?
[16:19] <koolhead17> Daviey: yes sir
[16:19] <Daviey> (The issue is that sqlite.so is attempted to be loaded by php - but we don't build it anymore)
[16:19] <Daviey> Someone has just posted a work around to include a sqlite.so *sigh*
[16:20] <Daviey> koolhead17: How is the package looking?
[16:20] <koolhead17> Daviey: still compiling :(
[16:20] <Daviey> koolhead17: heh, ok - thanks.. shout for help in #ubuntu-server if you need it.. thanks :)
[16:20] <Daviey> bug 878597, smoser
[16:21] <Daviey> smoser: how is it looking?
[16:21] <Daviey> smoser: are you present?
[16:22] <smoser> i just pushed a branch
[16:22] <smoser> but i think lynxman is merging from debian
[16:22] <smoser> and i would suggest he just merge my branch in his upstream merge.
[16:22] <zul> smoser: merged was done this morning
[16:23] <lynxman> smoser: merged by zul then he got all my 2.6.1 already packagd plugins :)
[16:23] <smoser> oh.
[16:23] <Daviey> does this mean the issue is fixed?
[16:23] <Daviey> Or is smoser's fix needed to be re-based to current archive?
[16:24] <Daviey> lynxman / zul ^^?
[16:24] <zul> Daviey: i think it might need to be rebased
[16:24] <smoser> i'll rebase to current archive and upload
[16:25] <lynxman> Yeah the issue wasn't solved in 2.6.1 debian
[16:25] <Daviey> rocking
[16:25] <Daviey> smoser: can we have that done by EoW?
[16:25] <Daviey> bug 880339, needs a refresh profile - anyone want to tackle that?
[16:26] <smoser> Daviey, for you, we can have it done today.
[16:26] <Daviey> smoser: You rock my world, you know that?
[16:27] <Daviey> (smoser, that is the apparmor issue?)
[16:27] <smoser> i was referring to rabbitmq
[16:27] <Daviey> RoAkSoAx: is that something you want to tackle?
[16:28] <Daviey> 10 second rules is acceptance, right?
[16:28] <smoser> 3
[16:28] <smoser> 2
[16:28] <smoser> 1
[16:28] <smoser> RoAkSoAx assigned
[16:28] <Daviey> Done!
[16:28] <dholbach> harsh
[16:28] <Daviey> bug 876768, hallyn - how is it going?
[16:29] <hallyn> it's on the back burner
[16:29] <hallyn> i'll get to that again when i'm done with lxc and any new bugs
[16:29] <Daviey> hallyn: For A1 or length of cycle?
[16:29] <hallyn> what exactly?  i'll have a package working for sid by end of week i hope
[16:30] <hallyn> when will it be *in* sid?  no idea :)
[16:30] <hallyn> when i get that package, i'll do a new ubuntu package based on it,
[16:30] <hallyn> and ask for that to be packaged in precise
[16:30] <hallyn> all of that hopefully this week
[16:30] <Daviey> Oh wow
[16:30] <Daviey> better progress than i expected!
[16:30] <Daviey> nice one hallyn
[16:30] <RoAkSoAx> Daviey: smoser lol I cant take it though I wont work on it till probably EOW
[16:30] <RoAkSoAx> or next week
[16:31] <Daviey> That is all of our bugs on the list.. any others people are working on, or need to be targeted?
[16:31] <adam_g> Daviey: i can also take bug 868492
[16:31] <Daviey> Great!
[16:31] <rbasak> Daviey: I'm done with 878180
[16:32] <Daviey> bug 878180
[16:32] <rbasak> though I'm not sure how to test it, need to simulate some weird conditions for that
[16:32] <Daviey> rbasak: did cjwatson look at it, do you know?
[16:32] <rbasak> I've checked the file lists by hand though
[16:32] <rbasak> not that I know of
[16:33] <Daviey> Ok
[16:33] <Daviey> Any other issues, people would like to raise - that we need to work on?
[16:33] <Daviey> #topic Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:33] <Daviey> UDS, NEXT WEEK - Orlando, florida
[16:34] <Daviey> http://uds.ubuntu.com
[16:34] <Daviey> Any other events?
[16:34] <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:34] <Daviey> hggdh: Hello sir!
[16:34] <robbiew> OpenCompute Summit this Thursday..but that's just me
[16:36] <Daviey> okay, we'll come back
[16:36] <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:36] <Daviey> Hello smb!
[16:36] <Daviey> bug 881076, is awesome
[16:38] <Daviey> I assume smb is absent.
[16:38] <Daviey> any other kernel people present?
[16:38] <Daviey> oh well
[16:38] <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (NCommander)
[16:38] <robbiew> this is a great meeting
[16:38] <robbiew> lol
[16:39] <robbiew> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARM/PBlueprintIdeas
[16:39] <robbiew> for those interested in Precise related ARM development
[16:39] <robbiew> Server features listed there as well
[16:39] <Daviey> Thanks NCommander !
[16:39] <Daviey> That is a good URL for us to look through.
[16:39] <Daviey> Any othet questions for NCommander ?
[16:40] <Daviey> Thanks NCommander (robbiew)
[16:40] <Daviey> #topic Weekly Updates & Questions from the Ubuntu Community
[16:41] <Daviey> koolhead17 deserves a mention, he's been rocking this week.
[16:41] <Daviey> Thanks koolhead17
[16:41] <Daviey> #topic Open Discussion
[16:41] <Daviey> robbiew: Want to mention blueprints?
[16:41] <robbiew> I already did
[16:41] <robbiew> lol
[16:41]  * koolhead17 thanks Daviey for kicking me to correct direction and lynxman as well :)
[16:41] <robbiew> all kidding aside
[16:42] <lynxman> koolhead17: pleased to help man :)
[16:42] <robbiew> I think we have MORE than enough
[16:42] <robbiew> and will be focusing on making sure we have the right amount of information for each
[16:42] <Daviey> Great
[16:42] <robbiew> so we can have a useful discussion
[16:42] <hallyn> stability stability stability :)
[16:42] <robbiew> ie....SPECS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[16:42] <Daviey> Yeah, i noticed too many of the blueprints are title only
[16:42] <robbiew> wiki.ubuntu.com/SpecTemplate
[16:43] <Daviey> Some of them really need some pre-drafting, so we have something to talk about!
[16:43] <robbiew> we don't need the complete Spec...but at least through "Assumptions"...so we know the idea and what we need to sort out
[16:43] <Daviey> Great!  See you all next week :)
[16:43] <Daviey> #topic Announce next meeting date and time
[16:43] <Daviey> Won't be on next week, so 2 weeks today, same time, same place
[16:44] <Daviey> #endmeeting
[16:44] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Oct 25 16:44:09 2011 UTC.
[16:44] <meetingology> Minutes:        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2011/ubuntu-meeting.2011-10-25-16.01.moin.txt
[16:44] <hallyn> cheerio
[16:44] <Daviey> thanks all!