[06:27] <scott__> hi mythbuntu IRC channel- anybody home
[06:34] <scott__> okay throwing out a quick question if anyone could help Id be greatful- Ive got a frontend/backend mythbuntu server setup attached to a projecter for movie viewing in my house. I want to be able to remotely control it via laptop
[06:35] <scott__> in order to have it play music. However I want the sound to come out of the mythubuntu server itself- not from the remotly connecting laptop.. so myth frontend in that remote laptop isnt an option.
[06:36] <scott__> Is there any way to do something like this other than doing a remote desktop session? I was kind of hoping mymote etc would allow you to browse your music etc collection and have them play but you need to have a screen up (the projecter in this case) in order to navigate the pages
[06:36] <scott__> I want to navigate and play stuff on the server, from the servers speaker output etc, with a remote interface or laptop.
[06:38] <scott__> But I dont want to have to turn on the projector every time I want to play an audio file... I hope Im making sense this is kind of a convoluted question
[06:38] <scott__> anyway if anyone has any advice Id appreciate it and thanks for your help in advance
[08:10] <dekarl> scott__: i've seen that the 0.25/master series has a frontend webinterface that can be enabled which allows you to control that. I'm not sure how much of that is in 0.24/fixes.
[08:11] <dekarl> it's a good question for the main #mythtv-users channel as it's not ubuntu specific
[08:16] <scott__> Hi Dekarl ok Ill try throwing it out there to mythtv-users channel. Thanks for your help :-)
[08:29] <dekarl> oh and, your best bet is when the americans are up, as that is where the devs are
[11:29] <mrand> scott__: the  answer should be that the telnet interface is what you want.   See http://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Telnet  The reason I say "should" though, is because its ability to control and interact with mythmusic is pretty limited.
[11:29] <Zinn> [www.mythtv.org] Frontend control socket - MythTV Official Wiki
[11:32] <mrand> Looks like a a change in 0.25 should improve that limitation.
[11:46] <TandyUK> ok now i have a new problem after following the steps in the forum post for upgrade issues
[11:46] <TandyUK> i get a login screen up, but login fails - no error i just get bounced back to the login screen
[11:46] <TandyUK> after digging turns out this is logged to /var/log/auth.log
[11:48] <TandyUK> lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "mythtvuser"
[11:52] <TandyUK> has anyone tested vnc with 11.10
[11:53] <TandyUK> cause that doesnt work atm either
[11:53] <TandyUK> it was configured with mcc before the upgrade, and if i manually start X and run mcc i can see it is still selected
[11:56] <TandyUK> hmm
[11:56] <TandyUK> i seem to have a /var/lib/lightdm/.Xauthority file
[12:21] <mrand> TandyUK, did you search on that auth.log message?  There are a number of forum hits that I don't have time to read right now, as well as this one:  http://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1117897  and probably others.
[12:21] <mrand> bbl
[12:21] <Zinn> [arstechnica.com] Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Headaches - Ars Technica OpenForum
[12:42] <TandyUK> -rw-------  1 root    root       15048 2011-10-14 01:22 .ICEauthority
[12:42] <TandyUK> theres the fking problem
[12:42] <TandyUK> need to remove that file as well as .Xauthority
[15:04] <tgm4883> TandyUK, did you run any graphical programs using sudo?
[16:28] <TandyUK> tgm4883: not to my knowledge but hey ho
[16:29] <TandyUK> having lirc problems now... my remote wasnt working so through mcc i set it to no additional remote, and it removed the config and lirc
[16:29] <TandyUK> now when i select lirc, it pops up as if it is going to install oething, then disappers
[16:30] <TandyUK> doing a manual install says well it used to lol
[16:31] <TandyUK> it was saying no package lirc but a couple of apt-get updates has fixed that
[17:29] <dekarl> how can I add "-v jobqueue" to the mythbackend without hacking the upstart script?
[17:37] <mrand> dekarl: for sure you could rename mythbackend to something else (mythbackend.real) and then put a "script" (which could be just a single line) which calls mythbackend with the argument added (along with any arguments passed on the command line, using $* or $@
[17:38] <mrand> BTW, thanks for helping to answer other questions here and elsewhere!
[17:39] <superm1> dekarl, hacking the upstart script shouldn't be too big a deal though, it's a really trivial script and if it changes on upgrade merging the change shouldn't be too much work (compared to old init scripts)
[17:39] <dekarl> mrand: ok, I was looking for some MBE_FLAGS= configuration option
[17:40] <superm1> we haven't changed it in a LONG time anyhow
[17:40] <superm1> so i don't see it being something that you need to do on every apt-get upgrade or so
[17:40] <dekarl> I was just wondering as the "-v this,that" is not so uncommon ;)
[23:33] <dscoular> mythbuntu 11.10: can't play sound with aplay while mythfrontend is playing. Any thoughts ?
[23:53] <superm1> dscoular, sounds like expected behavior; no pulseaudio or anything being used?
[23:53] <superm1> especially if you are using digital audio, expected behavior
[23:56] <dscoular> Hmm, yes, there's no pulseaudio... I had thought that alsa supported mixing via dmix... I can have 2 aplay samples play at the same time
[23:56] <superm1> alsa does support dmix, but i'm not sure all hardware supports that
[23:57] <dscoular> If I have aplay playing simultaneously in two windows... why doesn't mythfrontend allow simultaneous play through dmix et al ?
[23:57] <superm1> not so sure then, that does sound a bit odd
[23:58] <dscoular> I'm sure it used to work fine... as I have X10 motion detectors play a sample when someone is at the door and I'm it used to work while watching mythtv
[23:58] <dscoular> s/ I'm it/I'm sure it/
[23:58] <superm1> well if you don't find a solution, an alternative could be to have it send an OSD message
[23:59] <dscoular> I'll pester the mythtv users list I guess
[23:59] <dscoular> thanks for your help