[02:53] <bjsnider> hyperair, let me help with that banshee bug
[02:53] <bjsnider> i do use gnome-shell
[02:53] <hyperair> bjsnider: ooh nice. thanks.
[02:53] <bjsnider> and i have seen the plugin display as notify-sharp
[02:54] <bjsnider> is that what it should do?
[02:54] <hyperair> it's not.
[02:54] <hyperair> i'd like to see if i can just blank out the app_name field
[02:54] <bjsnider> i just turned it on and it calls itself banshee
[02:56] <bjsnider> are you sure this is still an active bug? that was submitted against alpha 3
[02:59] <hyperair> eh?
[02:59] <hyperair> O_o
[02:59] <hyperair> it calls itself banshee now?
[03:00] <hyperair> could it be that gnome shell doesn't use the app_name but uses the actual sending application's process name now?
[03:02] <bjsnider> what's the keyboard shortcut to advance to the next song?
[03:02] <hyperair> um XF86AudioNext?
[03:03] <hyperair> or something
[03:03] <hyperair> do you have a next track key?
[03:03] <hyperair> otherwise you can configure it in keyboard shortcuts
[03:03] <hyperair> or you can run in a terminal banshee --next
[03:03] <bjsnider> no
[03:04] <bjsnider> hold on a minute
[03:04] <bjsnider> oh, yeah it's still there
[03:05] <bjsnider> i tried the steps in comment 2 and it still changes to notify-sharp
[03:05] <bjsnider> if i click on that, a new icon appears called banshee
[03:06] <bjsnider> both icons have banshee's logo
[03:06] <hyperair> i see
[03:06] <bjsnider> also, there's a problem with the notification that appears when a new song is played. the markup tags, which look like html, are shown
[03:07] <hyperair> hmm
[03:07] <hyperair> that's a separate bug that's already fixed in the daily packages
[03:07] <bjsnider> in short, it's a disaster
[03:07] <bjsnider> ok, not really
[03:07] <bjsnider> cool
[03:07] <hyperair> heh
[03:08] <bjsnider> if i click on the new banshee icon, it tells my what song is playing, and then below that it says the song by the artist is ready
[03:08] <hyperair> new banshee icon?
[03:08] <hyperair> what new banshee icon?
[03:08] <bjsnider> the one i mentioned above
[03:09] <hyperair> O_o
[03:09] <bjsnider> that appeared when i clicked on the notify-sharp icon
[03:09] <hyperair> hmm
[03:10]  * hyperair has no idea what gnome shell is doing
[03:10] <hyperair> or what it's supposed to be diong
[03:10] <bjsnider> if i right-click on the notify-sharp icon, it gives me a bunch of banshee controls. if i right-click ont he banshee icon it gives me a gnome-shell type open/remove
[03:10]  * hyperair is confused
[03:11] <hyperair> screenshots might be helpful
[03:11] <bjsnider> ok, i will upload them to that bug
[03:11] <hyperair> thanks
[03:22] <bjsnider> hyperair, that's not working. i can't take screenshots of the notification icons. nothing is displayed in the shots
[03:22] <hyperair> bjsnider: hmm, really? maybe you could try using scrot instead
[03:22] <hyperair> with a timeout
[03:22] <hyperair> or something
[03:23] <hyperair> worst case scenario -- get a camera. =p
[03:33] <bjsnider> hyperair, they're posted
[03:35] <hyperair> hmm okay thanks
[03:37] <bjsnider> now, on the second icon, if i select "remove" gnome-shell crashes and restarts
[03:37] <hyperair> heh
[03:38] <bjsnider> i obviously have this plugin disabled most of the time
[03:40] <hyperair> plugin? you mean the notification thing is a plugin?
[03:40] <hyperair> hmm
[03:41] <bjsnider> yeah
[03:42] <hyperair> i see
[03:45] <bjsnider> well, it's an "extension"
[03:59] <hyperair> heh
[04:05] <hyperair> aha. i think i've fixed it.
[04:07] <hyperair> http://people.ubuntu.com/~hyperair/libnotify0.4-cil_0.4.0~r3032-4_all.deb
[04:07] <hyperair> bjsnider: can you install that, restart banshee and see if it fixes the issue?
[04:09] <bjsnider> hyperair, i will do so and get back to you tomorrow. it is time i get some sleep
[04:11] <hyperair> alright, good night. thanks for your help =)
[09:43] <ricotz> tseliot, hello
[09:43] <tseliot> hi ricotz
[09:44] <ricotz> tseliot, do you have time to upload a newer nvidia version to precise?
[09:44] <ricotz> like 290.03
[09:45] <tseliot> ricotz: maybe 285.05.09? 290.03 is a beta release
[09:46] <ricotz> i  guess 290.03 would be better
[09:46] <ricotz> since precise is pre-alpha
[09:48] <ricotz> tseliot, you can take this one https://edge.launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers/+archive/ppa/+sourcepub/2035792/+listing-archive-extra
[09:48] <tseliot> ricotz: I'm a bit uncomfortable about uploading closed experimental drivers. Especially since they can potentially fry your card
[09:49] <ricotz> they are not closed
[09:49] <tseliot> ricotz: closed as in proprietary
[09:49] <ricotz> but if you arent comfortable 285.05.09 would be nice too
[09:50] <ricotz> tseliot, ok, i thought you meant "not public released"
[09:50] <tseliot> ricotz: 285.05.09 is something I can upload to Precise and Oneiric (only nvidia-current-updates)
[09:51] <ricotz> tseliot, that would be great
[09:51] <tseliot> ricotz: I need to fglrx first though (LP: #855943)
[09:51] <ricotz> tseliot, no problem, thanks!
[09:51] <tseliot> yw
[13:20] <bjsnider> hyperair, yes, that fixed the problem
[13:32] <hyperair> bjsnider: awesome =)
[13:34] <bjsnider> hyperair, what was the problem?
[13:34] <hyperair> bjsnider: chained constructors in C#.
[13:35] <bjsnider> that's what i get for asking
[13:35] <hyperair> notify-sharp attempted to get the app name by using something like GetCallingAssembly().GetName().Name
[13:35] <hyperair> or something like that
[13:35] <hyperair> but because the constructor was chained... that call ended up yielding the notify-sharp.dll assembly rather than the application assembly
[13:35] <hyperair> changing this to GetEntryAssembly (i.e. the assembly the program started from) fixed the issue
[15:08] <bdmurray> are there any issues with RS880 [Radeon HD 4290]?
[16:58] <achiang> has anyone heard of a bug where moving your mouse to the left edge of the desktop causes the screen to go blank? this is unity in oneiric, with the nvidia driver
[16:58] <achiang> also, for an extra twist, synergy is running, and the 2nd machine is on the left
[17:04] <bjsnider> what's synergy?
[17:06] <achiang> it's like a virtual kvm
[17:07] <ricotz> bjsnider, if you were desperately waiting for these gconf fixes i have uploaded it now to my ppa
[17:07] <achiang> so you use one keyboard/mouse to control 2 separate machines
[17:07] <achiang> i don't actually know how it works though. does it run its own X server, jbrett?
[17:08] <bjsnider> ricotz, i applied the 4 patches and built an update locally a week ago
[17:08] <ricotz> bjsnider, ok ;)
[17:08] <bjsnider> achiang, can you test your system without synergy, just controlling one machine?
[17:09] <achiang> bjsnider: i'll ask the bug reporter to do that (i'm just a proxy)
[17:09] <achiang> thanks
[17:27] <jbrett> sorry, was having IRL conversation :)
[17:28] <jbrett> achiang, bjsnider: synergy is a daemon that grabs the keyboard/mouse events, and sends them over the network to a remote machine.  Kind-of like a KVM.
[17:30] <jbrett> I use it on my laptop/workstation so I can use the same keyboard/mouse for both laptop and workstation.  When my mouse hits the left side of the wkstation screen, synergy moves it and the keyboard focus to my laptop, then visa-versa when I leave the right side of the laptop screen.
[17:31] <jbrett> If I remove the laptop from synergy (so my mouse never "leaves" the screen), the problem goes away.
[17:32] <jbrett> the problem is when the mouse comes back to the wkstation screen (which is running oneric/unity), then the screen goes black for ~2-3sec.
[17:32] <achiang> can you turn off synergy?
[17:32] <achiang> and see if it still happens?
[17:32] <jbrett> yes, and I imagine the problem will go away.
[17:33] <jbrett> since my mouse will never disappear :)
[17:33] <jbrett> I'll do it, just a sec..
[17:34] <jbrett> so yes, kill synergy, and problem goes away as expected..
[17:35] <jbrett> with synergy running, but not connected to another synergy machine, problem also goes away (as expected)
[17:35] <Sarvatt> jbrett: try xset -dpms ?
[17:36] <jbrett> Sarvatt: ok, that made the problem go away, but I confess I have no clue why :)
[17:37] <Sarvatt> me neither, its a synergy bug and I dont use it :)
[17:37] <Sarvatt> putting your monitor in power savings mode when you go to the other pc
[17:37] <jbrett> hmm, ok.
[17:37] <Sarvatt> i just found the workaround via google http://synergy-foss.org/tracker/issues/2778
[17:38]  * jbrett bows to awesome google-fu of Sarvatt  :)
[17:39] <Sarvatt> sounds like an old bug with synergy though thats been around for years :(
[17:39] <jbrett> anyway, thanks.  I know there are a lot of changes around this area between maverick & oneric..  I'll try to track down a real fix.
[17:40] <Sarvatt> oh it worked properly in maverick?
[17:40] <jbrett> yes.
[17:41] <jbrett> I finally got off my curmudgeon-horse and decided I should give unity a fair try, so I upgraded my workstation.
[17:44] <Sarvatt> you dont get a lock screen or anything when you come back to the 11.10 screen do you?
[17:44] <jbrett> do, it just blanks for a couple seconds.
[17:44] <jbrett> er, s/do/no/
[17:47] <jbrett> totally looks like a synergy bug though, as it apparently happens on windoze machines too, from that bug report..
[17:50] <Sarvatt> maybe try downgrading synergy?
[17:57] <jbrett> yeah, it may come to that.  Looks like it's a bug in newer versions of synergy (since the one that was in maverick).
[17:57] <jbrett> Sarvatt: thanks for your help and google-fu in any case :)
[17:59] <Sarvatt> yeah i'm seeing some screensaver dpms hacks in the diff between the packages
[18:04] <jbrett> looks like there's a fix, but not targetted until 1.4.6: http://synergy-foss.org/tracker/issues/696
[18:07] <Sarvatt> - synergy-1.3.3-X11-DPMS.patch
[18:07] <Sarvatt> call DPMSOn() when entering screen to make sure powersaving mode is
[18:07] <Sarvatt> canceled on X11 client systems when the fake mouse / keyb become active
[18:07] <Sarvatt> ah hah
[18:08] <Sarvatt> nevermind, thats what actually caused the problem
[18:08] <Sarvatt> and was added in 1.3.3
[18:21] <bjsnider> jbrett, are they too far apart or can you use a real kvm switch?
[18:22] <Sarvatt> bjsnider: kvm wouldn't be seamless as you move between monitors
[18:23] <bjsnider> no, it would require a couple seconds
[18:58] <jbrett> bjsnider: yeah, a kvm doesn't do the same thing.  Using synergy is kinda like extending your desktop onto the other machine (except that you can't drag windows back & forth).
[18:58] <jbrett> but you can copy/paste, etc...  It's really nice.
[18:59] <jbrett> turning off dpms works as a workaround for now.  It looks like there's a fix upstream, although no release with the fix yet.
[18:59] <jbrett> http://synergy-foss.org/tracker/issues/696
[20:21] <Sarvatt> jbrett: might want to do yourself a favor and try out xubuntu if you really want ffm, it's pretty much abandoned in gnome 3 and unity
[20:21] <tjaalton> nonsense
[20:21] <jbrett> wow, I hope not.
[20:21] <tjaalton> just disable the top-bar menu
[20:22] <jbrett> oh, you're responding to what I typed in #u-desktop?
[20:22] <Sarvatt> what it's usable now just getting rid of the global menu?
[20:22] <Sarvatt> ok I change that statement to just gnome3 :)
[20:22] <jbrett> yeah, I don't see any way to use ffm and the global menu.
[20:22] <tjaalton> though I've switched to fullscreen windows for the most part, but ffm works within the terminator window for instance
[20:23] <tjaalton> actually, you can hit ctrl or was it alt to "lock" the menu, and then navigate to it
[20:23] <tjaalton> or something like that
[20:23] <tjaalton> can't remember, it's mentioned on the bug
[20:23] <Sarvatt> I dont use it, just remember all the complaining about it being unusable in 11.04, guess they were just bugs that were fixed
[20:23] <tjaalton> bug 674138
[20:23] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 674138 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) ""Global" appmenu breaks sloppy focus (affects: 79) (dups: 5) (heat: 418)" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/674138
[20:27] <Sarvatt> I like that bug :) "Maybe convincing MacOs developers to change their behavior/add a configuration option will do the trick? ;-)"
[20:27] <jbrett> heh.
[20:29] <jbrett> I'm trying really hard not to just disable stuff I dislike at first (like the GM), as I assume there was some thought and effort put into it, and once I get over the "this isn't the same as what I'm used to" stage, I might actually like it :)
[21:12] <mdeslaur> anybody got an issue in oneiric where all of a sudden the left mouse button stops working, but the right one still works? a couple of window switches, and it starts working again?