| Kerbero | o/ | 00:45 |
|---|---|---|
| Kerbero | this was the worst ubuntu upgrade i had ever | 00:46 |
| Kerbero | ended up reinstalling | 00:46 |
| Kilos | morning superfly and others | 05:27 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 05:27 |
| * Maaz puts the kettle on | 05:27 | |
| superfly | morning Kilos | 05:27 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 05:28 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 05:31 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 05:31 |
| Maaz | Enjoy Kilos | 05:31 |
| Vince-0 | Hi Kilos | 05:37 |
| Vince-0 | Morning Ubuntu-za - time for wek! | 05:37 |
| superfly | time for work? I've already been here an hour! | 05:39 |
| Kilos | lol | 05:42 |
| Kilos | you gotta make allowances for the young and the self employed superfly | 05:43 |
| Squirm | morning | 05:43 |
| Squirm | thanks Kilos | 05:43 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm hows things | 05:43 |
| Squirm | I usually wake up in about 30min time :P | 05:44 |
| Squirm | but work made me wake up early | 05:44 |
| Kilos | ah you wet the bed? | 05:44 |
| superfly | bwahaha | 05:44 |
| Kilos | you still there near newcastle Squirm ? | 05:45 |
| Squirm | Newcastle is about 1/1.5 hours away. if you consider that near, then yes | 05:45 |
| Squirm | Maaz: coffee for all | 05:46 |
| Maaz | Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already | 05:46 |
| Squirm | Maaz: thanks | 05:46 |
| Maaz | Squirm: No problem | 05:46 |
| Kilos | whew i lost, forget where you are exactly apart from near a dam | 05:46 |
| Kilos | chelmsford? | 05:46 |
| Squirm | never heard of the place | 05:46 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 05:46 |
| Maaz | Kilos: There isn't a pot on | 05:46 |
| Squirm | a town called Winterton | 05:46 |
| Squirm | s/town/hole | 05:46 |
| Kilos | oh yes thats it | 05:47 |
| Kilos | what are you doing now Squirm | 05:47 |
| Squirm | I'm and IT Techy | 05:50 |
| Squirm | and it finally got interesting | 05:52 |
| Kilos | in winterton | 05:53 |
| Squirm | maybe not *interesting*, but better than it's been | 05:53 |
| Squirm | Kilos: yep | 05:53 |
| Kilos | or you doing online work | 05:53 |
| Squirm | in WInterton | 05:53 |
| Kilos | thats good though. the winterton i member was to small to have more than 5 pc's in the wghole town | 05:54 |
| Kilos | whole | 05:54 |
| Squirm | just got a new client, lots of work needs to be done there. he has a big pig farm and lots of work. he didn't trust the other IT guy he used | 05:54 |
| Squirm | but he set up the network right, many network cables and they're all just jumbled up behind the main PC | 05:55 |
| Kilos | give it your best shot. the name you make for yourself when young you carry with you to the end | 05:55 |
| Squirm | guess who has to sort them out | 05:55 |
| Kilos | yeah ian also bitching about the last guys mess ups | 05:56 |
| Squirm | it's a pain | 05:56 |
| Squirm | but when you get paid per hour, shouldn't complain hey... | 05:56 |
| Kilos | lol no | 05:56 |
| Squirm | going to get a rackmount switch and stick it all nicely in that | 05:57 |
| Squirm | rather than having 2 small 8-port switches | 05:57 |
| Kilos | good | 05:57 |
| Squirm | it's not a *lot* of cables like some guys are used to, but it's just a business :P | 05:58 |
| Squirm | and finally getting to setup the Long Range CPE's in the field ^^ | 05:58 |
| Kilos | yeah but make him happy and he will tell others | 05:58 |
| Squirm | see how they play out | 05:58 |
| Squirm | Ubiquiti NanoStation M5 | 05:58 |
| Squirm | he's on a farm, so linking his butchery, offices, house, etc. they're all spaced apart | 05:59 |
| Squirm | and hopefully going to install IP cameras :) | 06:00 |
| Kilos | ian is also doing lots of that for security etc | 06:01 |
| Kilos | but all the software only works on windows | 06:01 |
| Squirm | yes :( | 06:01 |
| Squirm | anyways, I'm off | 06:10 |
| Kilos | enjoy | 06:10 |
| Kilos | hiya maiatoday | 06:11 |
| maiatoday | hi Kilos | 06:11 |
| ender | jullle staan te vroeg op | 06:12 |
| Kilos | môre ender | 06:13 |
| ender | hi Ook Kilos :0 | 06:13 |
| maiatoday | ender, ek werk al :) | 06:13 |
| ender | *oom | 06:13 |
| superfly | moring maiatoday, ender | 06:16 |
| maiatoday | hi superfly | 06:17 |
| ender | hi superfly | 06:20 |
| magespawn | morning all | 06:38 |
| Kilos | hiya magespawn | 06:46 |
| Kilos | aw | 06:46 |
| magespawn | howdy all | 07:05 |
| Kilos | lol again | 07:05 |
| Kilos | wb | 07:05 |
| magespawn | terrible lag the first time thought everyone was ignoring me | 07:09 |
| magespawn | got the mythbuntu up and running | 07:09 |
| Kilos | was even worse yesterday | 07:10 |
| Kilos | on what pc magespawn | 07:10 |
| Kilos | old one small ram etc | 07:10 |
| magespawn | yup trying to get onto twitter and is taking awhile. | 07:10 |
| Kilos | grrr | 07:12 |
| magespawn | newish board running 1 gig of ddr2 ram but in an old case cause of the form factor | 07:13 |
| magespawn | brb | 07:15 |
| Kilosm | power off till 1800 i think. and i forgot to charge fone | 07:35 |
| Kilosm | see yas darktime | 07:35 |
| Kilosm | be good | 07:36 |
| drubin | superfly: I can't login to the ubuntu-za website any more ;/ | 08:05 |
| superfly | drubin: which page are you on? what method are you using? what browser are you using? what error messages do you see? | 08:54 |
| drubin | superfly: Firefox, home page click log on - > http://ubuntu-za.org/user/login click on open id login | 08:57 |
| drubin | then login and it takes me to the sign up page | 08:57 |
| superfly | drubin: a bit busy here at the moment, will look when I have a chance | 09:16 |
| drubin | superfly: I didn't expect you to fix it now :) | 09:28 |
| Kilos | yo | 11:10 |
| Kilos | i am sure its gonna rain here. was told power would be off till 1800 but its on already | 11:15 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 11:15 |
| * Maaz flips the salt-timer | 11:15 | |
| Kilos | Maaz, quick before they kill the power again | 11:16 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Huh? | 11:16 |
| Kilos | twitbot | 11:16 |
| Kilos | magespawn, you were gonna tell me the specs of that pc | 11:17 |
| Kilos | dont act like you are thinking | 11:18 |
| Kilos | i can smell the wood burning from here | 11:18 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos! | 11:19 |
| Kilos | Maaz, ty | 11:20 |
| Maaz | Enjoy Kilos | 11:20 |
| superfly | hi Kilos | 11:20 |
| Kilos | hiya superfly min dae hey | 11:20 |
| magespawn | hi kilos yup hold on | 11:20 |
| superfly | Kilos: too busy to notice | 11:20 |
| Kilos | lol | 11:21 |
| magespawn | kilos remind me tomorrow the pc is packed up and ready to be moved | 11:22 |
| Kilos | ok | 11:22 |
| magespawn | i need to use the os cannot remember the spec but has 1 gig of ram but now 40 gig hard drive | 11:32 |
| magespawn | strangely enough no problems getting the os installed this time, so maybe that drive was faulty from the start | 11:34 |
| Kilos | yeah musta been hurt | 11:43 |
| Kilos | 1g ram is lekker | 11:43 |
| Kilos | lo kbmonkey | 11:43 |
| kbmonkey | yo | 11:43 |
| magespawn | yup want to see how it is going to handle all the media on my external drive | 11:44 |
| kbmonkey | Kilos, I made a terminal profile for elinks. bigger font, black-on-white color, and set elinks options to use 256 colors. much nicer to use with mouse. | 11:44 |
| Kilos | shouldnt have any probs | 11:44 |
| Kilos | i got 640m ram and can watch and play anything | 11:45 |
| Kilos | lol kbmonkey how you did that | 11:45 |
| magespawn | i also want to stream from there to other points in the house | 11:45 |
| kbmonkey | hi magespawn | 11:45 |
| magespawn | hi kb monkey | 11:45 |
| magespawn | or kbmonkey | 11:46 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:47 |
| Kilos | him too ya | 11:47 |
| kbmonkey | in the terminal menu you can edit the 'profiles' Kilos. you can then make a desktop shortcut to run gnome-terminal, and give it the "--window-with-profile=NAME --execute elinks" options to sort you out ;) | 11:49 |
| Kilos | ty i will look into that | 11:50 |
| Kilos | eish what does all that mean | 11:52 |
| Kilos | --window-with-profile=NAME --execute elinks | 11:52 |
| Kilos | does that go in new on profiles | 11:53 |
| kbmonkey | it opens gnome-terminal with the profile you give it, and runs elinks :p | 11:53 |
| kbmonkey | sorry do I move too fast? | 11:53 |
| Kilos | duh | 11:53 |
| Kilos | i am there but what goes in by name | 11:53 |
| Kilos | or is that a complete command | 11:54 |
| kbmonkey | ah, NAME would be whatever name you gave the profile you added :) | 11:54 |
| Kilos | where do i put in that command | 11:58 |
| kbmonkey | 1) add a new terminal profile and call it NAME | 11:58 |
| kbmonkey | 2) create a shortcut on your desktop or a launcher in your menu, with the command | 11:59 |
| kbmonkey | that's all | 11:59 |
| Kilos | oh you mean use that command in the terminal to open elinks? | 11:59 |
| kbmonkey | yup | 12:00 |
| Kilos | whew | 12:00 |
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| kbmonkey | you can run it in a terminal, but you can put it in a shortcut on your desktop for easiness | 12:00 |
| kbmonkey | "gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=NAME --execute elinks" | 12:00 |
| kbmonkey | sorry I am going quite fast today. was up super early to jog XD | 12:01 |
| Kilos | what has changed | 12:01 |
| Kilos | looks same | 12:02 |
| Kilos | np | 12:02 |
| kbmonkey | just thought you would like this trick | 12:02 |
| Kilos | lol whats changed | 12:02 |
| Kilos | its easier to type just elinks in terminal | 12:02 |
| kbmonkey | you can now change the font of the NAME profile | 12:02 |
| Kilos | oh | 12:03 |
| kbmonkey | choose something more readable, so it looks more like a real web page | 12:03 |
| kbmonkey | and its easier to click on the links with your mouse! | 12:03 |
| kbmonkey | you can also set a custom title for the window if you want | 12:03 |
| kbmonkey | disable scroll bars if you need, and such things. just little tricks | 12:04 |
| Kilos | i havent even been able to find fonts in elinks or make a shortcut to desktop even | 12:05 |
| Kilos | sigh | 12:05 |
| kbmonkey | you mean gnome-terminal. you change the fonts in there, not elinks | 12:06 |
| kbmonkey | oh is okay, just thought I point that out :) | 12:06 |
| Kilos | where is this gnome terminal | 12:07 |
| Kilos | i got plain terminal and root terminal | 12:07 |
| kbmonkey | click the menu "Help" and "About", what does that say | 12:08 |
| Kilos | dont laugh you too far away to klap | 12:08 |
| kbmonkey | he he he ;p | 12:08 |
| kbmonkey | just the plain terminal should do | 12:08 |
| kbmonkey | only use root for admin type stuff | 12:09 |
| Kilos | the help has contents and get help online etc | 12:09 |
| magespawn | later all, another game drive in the rain today. will tweet some more photos if possible. | 12:09 |
| Kilos | ok magespawn | 12:09 |
| kbmonkey | sounds great enjoy magespawn | 12:10 |
| Kilos | leave that thing for now i will read the contents of that gnome terminal help | 12:12 |
| Kilos | whew | 12:12 |
| Kilos | bbl | 12:36 |
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| === kbmonkey_ is now known as kbmonkey | ||
| Kilos | evning all of ya | 18:48 |
| Kilos | evening as well | 18:48 |
| nlsthzn | Alo uncle Kilos ... I have to go and play some Word of Tanks now to figure out why I should bother :p | 18:52 |
| Kilos | lol explain that in english | 18:53 |
| Kilos | if its a game then go enjoy | 18:54 |
| Kilos | its the to figure out bit i no unnerstand | 18:54 |
| Kilos | hi Waceman | 19:00 |
| Kilos | did you win | 19:00 |
| Kilos | sorry we were busy inna meeting last night | 19:00 |
| Waceman | no worries... not yet mate.. | 19:00 |
| Waceman | trying to install the drivers from a manual download | 19:01 |
| Kilos | was something with nvidia hey | 19:01 |
| Waceman | but the installer says I need to do something with Kernal Sources and Kernal Headers? | 19:01 |
| Waceman | I've downloaded a package which says it has support for my card | 19:01 |
| Waceman | so think this will do the trick.. | 19:02 |
| Kilos | need to do what | 19:02 |
| Kilos | lets hope | 19:02 |
| Waceman | quite a mission ;) | 19:02 |
| Waceman | going to go mal when I get this working!:D | 19:02 |
| Kilos | mine worked on default | 19:04 |
| Kilos | havent ever needed other drivers | 19:04 |
| Waceman | how new is your pc? nvidia? | 19:04 |
| Kilos | and my pc old | 19:05 |
| Kilos | methinks 1999 | 19:05 |
| Kilos | first p4 | 19:05 |
| Waceman | 11.10? | 19:05 |
| Waceman | I think I got mine in 2001 | 19:05 |
| Waceman | still plays quake 3 like a champ! 8) | 19:05 |
| Kilos | and ati graphics but withonly 32m ram on graphics card | 19:06 |
| Waceman | yeah, me too | 19:06 |
| Waceman | using 11.04 with gnome atm... dig it | 19:06 |
| Waceman | on this pc | 19:06 |
| Kilos | yeah gnome works well for me but i on maverick and will go ocelot inna few weeks | 19:07 |
| Kilos | i tried 11.04 and it complained about the graphics card | 19:08 |
| Kilos | then something didnt work kiff so i went back to 10.10 | 19:08 |
| Kilos | quake3 on windows? | 19:08 |
| Kilos | i gave up gaming when i went ubuntu | 19:09 |
| Kilos | hey Vince-0 what are you using | 19:10 |
| Kilos | OS wise | 19:10 |
| Waceman | yeah windows ME haha | 19:10 |
| Kilos | lol | 19:10 |
| Waceman | I gave up gaming a couple years ago too | 19:10 |
| Waceman | with win ME, I used to format the thing once a week | 19:10 |
| Kilos | we used to have some guys here that were big time gamers | 19:11 |
| Kilos | oh yes i know all about win me | 19:11 |
| Kilos | wasnt bad at all | 19:11 |
| Kilos | as long as you dont mind formatting often as you say | 19:11 |
| Kilos | then i went xp and formatted even more often | 19:12 |
| Kilos | then i went online for the first time and learned about virusses | 19:12 |
| Waceman | haha | 19:15 |
| Waceman | OK - here's the error... brace yourself | 19:15 |
| Kilos | lol sometimes formatted twice in one day | 19:15 |
| Waceman | "Depending on where and how the kernel sources (or the kernel headers) were installed, you may need to specify their location with the SYSSRC environment variable or the equivalient nvidia-installer command line option." | 19:15 |
| Kilos | superfly, please explain that in ballie taal for me | 19:16 |
| Kilos | the kernel its talking about is what kernel | 19:17 |
| Kilos | the linux kernel or nvidia | 19:17 |
| Waceman | beats me man | 19:17 |
| Waceman | this is a read me on how to install the drivers | 19:17 |
| Kilos | Waceman, superfly is our local python fundi | 19:17 |
| Waceman | http://uk.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/71.86.14/README/README | 19:17 |
| Waceman | check the section on "KERNEL INTERFACES" | 19:17 |
| Kilos | have you read the readme? | 19:18 |
| Kilos | i havent got data to go see links | 19:19 |
| Kilos | sorry | 19:19 |
| Waceman | well, up until that section | 19:19 |
| Waceman | "[1] NOTE: installation requires that you have a linker installed. | 19:19 |
| Waceman | The linker, usually '/usr/bin/ld', is part of the binutils package; | 19:19 |
| Waceman | please be sure you have this package installed prior to installing the | 19:19 |
| Waceman | NVIDIA driver." | 19:19 |
| Waceman | what is this guys? | 19:19 |
| Kilos | lemme see in synaptic | 19:20 |
| Kilos | you have aptitude | 19:21 |
| Kilos | ?? | 19:21 |
| Waceman | dunno ;P | 19:21 |
| Waceman | I have synaptic? | 19:21 |
| Kilos | you know how to use cli/ | 19:21 |
| Kilos | terminal | 19:21 |
| Kilos | in synaptic type in binutils in the top right little window | 19:22 |
| Kilos | the search block | 19:22 |
| Kilos | it should show immediately | 19:23 |
| Waceman | I've shutdown lightdm as it was required by the installer... | 19:23 |
| Waceman | so it's just sitting on the error message atm | 19:23 |
| Kilos | without having to hit search | 19:23 |
| Kilos | ok that nvidia package | 19:24 |
| Kilos | have you got the details of which version nvidfia card it is | 19:24 |
| Waceman | ya | 19:24 |
| Kilos | look in synaptic type in nvidia | 19:25 |
| Kilos | and look through them for that version | 19:25 |
| Waceman | This is my problem: Driver version 71 is the only one that says it supports my card... the rest don't... in synapic.. the oldest driver package is 96.. no 71 | 19:25 |
| afrodeity | () - [/] | 19:25 |
| Kilos | eish | 19:26 |
| afrodeity | silly plugin | 19:26 |
| Kilos | what does that mean afrodeity | 19:26 |
| afrodeity | weechat didn't load something | 19:26 |
| afrodeity | or I forget the key combo | 19:26 |
| Kilos | Waceman, | 19:27 |
| Kilos | you have that package downloaded hey? | 19:27 |
| Kilos | is it a .deb file | 19:27 |
| Waceman | yes, it's sitting in my downloads folder | 19:27 |
| Waceman | no, it's a .run | 19:27 |
| Kilos | there the prob | 19:27 |
| afrodeity | how old is the card? | 19:27 |
| Waceman | 2001 ;) | 19:27 |
| afrodeity | lovely | 19:28 |
| Waceman | GeForce 256 DDR | 19:28 |
| Waceman | it's great | 19:28 |
| Kilos | in synaptic get alien | 19:28 |
| Waceman | why? haha | 19:28 |
| Kilos | ubuntu likes .deb files | 19:28 |
| Waceman | the install doesn't work with GUI... it requires the GUI to be shut down.. only terminal | 19:29 |
| Kilos | alien converts .tar.gz and if i member it can convert .run files to .deb as well | 19:29 |
| Waceman | ? | 19:29 |
| afrodeity | then use a terminal | 19:29 |
| Kilos | you have no gui at the moment?? | 19:30 |
| afrodeity | no battery in my mouse | 19:30 |
| afrodeity | so i flipped off the gui | 19:30 |
| afrodeity | it much better down here | 19:30 |
| Kilos | not you afrodeity Waceman | 19:31 |
| afrodeity | lol | 19:31 |
| Waceman | Kilos: no GUI | 19:31 |
| Kilos | Waceman, have you got gui at the moment | 19:31 |
| Waceman | only terminal | 19:31 |
| afrodeity | gr8 | 19:31 |
| Waceman | more of the installation error | 19:31 |
| Waceman | "If you are using Linux 2.6 kernel, please make sure you hav configured kernel sources matching your kernel installed on your system. IF you specified a seperate output directory using either the "KBUILD_OUTPUT" or the "O" KBUILD parameter, make sure to specify this directory with the SYSOUT environment variable or with the equivalent nvidia -installer command line option." | 19:31 |
| Kilos | ok the in terminal type in | 19:31 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get install alien | 19:31 |
| afrodeity | did you self-install your kernel? | 19:32 |
| Waceman | no | 19:32 |
| afrodeity | ok I get it you want to compile the nvidia driver? | 19:32 |
| Waceman | does this alien convert the package to a dep file? | 19:33 |
| Waceman | I dunno? | 19:33 |
| Kilos | yes alien is a converter of .tar and .run to .deb | 19:33 |
| afrodeity | compile from source matching your card description, at least last known working source for card | 19:33 |
| Waceman | afrodeity: to get you up to speed... I have shiteold graphics card... none of the conventional ways of installing the nvidia drivers works... The only driver package which supporsts my card is package 71... So I downloaded if off www.nvidia.com... trying to install that | 19:34 |
| afrodeity | good | 19:34 |
| Waceman | Kilos: the install file is running... | 19:34 |
| Waceman | but gives the abovementioned errors after a couple of steps | 19:35 |
| Kilos | why it started running now? | 19:35 |
| Kilos | eish | 19:35 |
| Waceman | always was running | 19:35 |
| Kilos | ok | 19:35 |
| Waceman | I used "sh" command | 19:35 |
| Kilos | have you got alien now | 19:36 |
| afrodeity | i've configured my kernel sources once | 19:36 |
| afrodeity | was some time ago | 19:36 |
| Waceman | afrodeity: http://uk.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/71.86.14/README/README | 19:36 |
| Waceman | Check that out, and look under "Kernel Interfaces" and let me know if it makes sense? | 19:36 |
| afrodeity | have to switch to another term to do tht | 19:36 |
| Kilos | Waceman, look at that site and see if they have a .deb file | 19:37 |
| Waceman | ok lemme try it... but I don't think that's the problem | 19:37 |
| Kilos | on ubuntu you cant install .tar or .run files directly | 19:38 |
| Kilos | unless you very clever | 19:38 |
| Kilos | but i dont understand why your install didnt give you a default gui | 19:39 |
| Waceman | this is what came in the readme | 19:40 |
| Waceman | Before beginning the driver installation, you should exit the X server. | 19:40 |
| afrodeity | README looks terrible in elinks | 19:41 |
| Waceman | doesn't look much better on prober gui ;) | 19:41 |
| afrodeity | I need a browser list down here | 19:42 |
| Kilos | down where | 19:43 |
| afrodeity | xterm | 19:43 |
| Kilos | why you closed gui | 19:43 |
| Kilos | Waceman, sorry i was thinking of .rpm paclage | 19:44 |
| Kilos | packages | 19:44 |
| Kilos | ok Waceman lets see if you have gdebi | 19:45 |
| Kilos | then you right click the package and install with gdebi package manager and it will get dependancies that are needed too | 19:46 |
| Waceman | Kilos: appreciate the help.. but I think you're going in the wrong direction | 19:47 |
| Kilos | i think from maverick gdebi is not installed by default | 19:47 |
| superfly | Waceman: you need to install the "build-essential" package, if you haven't already | 19:47 |
| Waceman | the installer won't work in GUI no matter what you do to it | 19:47 |
| Waceman | yes, I've done that superfly | 19:47 |
| superfly | Waceman: installing "linux-headers" should install the headers compatible with your kernel | 19:48 |
| afrodeity | yes | 19:48 |
| superfly | Waceman: then, I think you need to run the .run file as root | 19:48 |
| Waceman | superfly, I used "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`" | 19:48 |
| Waceman | ?? | 19:48 |
| superfly | that works too | 19:48 |
| Waceman | I've done that too | 19:48 |
| superfly | Waceman: Ubuntu has meta-packages, so you install one and it installs the correct version for you | 19:49 |
| superfly | Waceman: is that the only output you get, or is there other stuff too? | 19:49 |
| superfly | that just doesn't sound like the entire story to me | 19:50 |
| Waceman | ?? | 19:50 |
| Waceman | maybe the driver package is just too old for 11.10? | 19:51 |
| afrodeity | there used to be a lot more cli browsers on my system | 19:51 |
| Waceman | superfly, can I send you the error log file? | 19:52 |
| superfly | Waceman: pastebin.com please | 19:52 |
| Waceman | k, it's on my other pc.. just have to reboot to get it ;p | 19:52 |
| afrodeity | pastebin | 19:52 |
| afrodeity | not the command sorry | 19:53 |
| afrodeity | pastbinit | 19:54 |
| afrodeity | pastebinit | 19:54 |
| afrodeity | :) | 19:55 |
| Waceman | superfly, this is the readme for the install file... maybe you'll understand it better than I do: http://uk.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/71.86.14/README/README | 19:58 |
| Kilos | afrodeity, lynx links and links2 | 19:58 |
| Kilos | Waceman, did you have no gui from when you started installing | 19:59 |
| Waceman | Kilos: the readme for the installer said I had to kill X server | 19:59 |
| Waceman | so I did everthing from a terminal | 20:00 |
| Waceman | cuz the intaller won't work with gui running.. it promts you to kill it | 20:00 |
| Kilos | from the ubuntu installer | 20:00 |
| Waceman | no | 20:01 |
| Kilos | didnt you even see the ubuntu options to install or try | 20:01 |
| afrodeity | Kilos: was looking for links2 thx | 20:01 |
| Kilos | no what | 20:02 |
| Kilos | yw | 20:02 |
| Waceman | I tried software centre... did not work | 20:02 |
| Waceman | I tried every version synaptic had to offer... did not work.. | 20:02 |
| Waceman | Now I'm trying to install the drivers manuall.. and they just so happen to be the ones that support my card | 20:02 |
| Kilos | i am asking about when you installed ubuntu | 20:02 |
| Kilos | before the nvidia thing | 20:02 |
| Waceman | I installed it fresh off a cd | 20:02 |
| Kilos | ajnd all in cli | 20:03 |
| Kilos | no graphics at all | 20:03 |
| Waceman | no man.. the graphics work.. but it's very slow 2D... | 20:03 |
| Kilos | whew i got worried there | 20:04 |
| Waceman | haha - geepers this is quite a frustrating one | 20:04 |
| Kilos | Kerbero, wb | 20:04 |
| Kilos | Waceman, have you only got 11.10 there | 20:05 |
| Kerbero | wtf was that? | 20:05 |
| Kilos | you went | 20:05 |
| * Kerbero swears at ubuntu | 20:05 | |
| Kerbero | there is a new distro out there | 20:05 |
| Kilos | remote guy killed your connection | 20:05 |
| Kerbero | it is called fubuntu | 20:05 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:05 |
| Kilos | sis | 20:05 |
| Kerbero | my computer logged out as soon as i pressed enter | 20:06 |
| Kerbero | as a reply to your "wb" | 20:06 |
| Kilos | ha ha ha | 20:06 |
| Kilos | is it fixed now | 20:06 |
| Kerbero | well i can type now | 20:06 |
| Kerbero | without it logging out | 20:06 |
| Kerbero | but ubuntu is still fubarred | 20:06 |
| Kerbero | ie, still fubuntu running here | 20:07 |
| Kilos | 11.10 Kerbero | 20:07 |
| Kerbero | 11.10 gave me problems from the start | 20:07 |
| Kilos | never done these things before | 20:07 |
| Waceman | superfly, here's the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/gt7ay5R6 | 20:07 |
| Vince-0 | Eh! | 20:08 |
| Kerbero | and unity doesn't handle my dualscreen well at all | 20:08 |
| Vince-0 | was afk: Kilos - I'm running android phone, transformer, ubuntu 11.04 media PC, Centos6 server | 20:09 |
| afrodeity | foobuntu | 20:09 |
| Kilos | thats great Vince-0 | 20:09 |
| afrodeity | i need a better clibrowser | 20:09 |
| Vince-0 | I like unity cos its easy to use from a tablet via vnc to desktop attached to TV! | 20:10 |
| Kerbero | unity is really nice | 20:11 |
| Vince-0 | but I run 10.04 on work latop, gnome2 with compiz multiple desktops | 20:11 |
| Kerbero | i installed debian last night with gnome 2 | 20:11 |
| Kerbero | it just doesn't come near unity | 20:11 |
| Waceman | Kerbero: been having nvidia troubles, seen many people having dual screen problems | 20:11 |
| Kerbero | but i really need it to be stable | 20:11 |
| Kerbero | Waceman: i'm using a nvidia card | 20:12 |
| Vince-0 | which is what I'm about to do now - TV! so peace out ubuntu-za | 20:12 |
| Kerbero | but havn't installed the drivers yet | 20:12 |
| Waceman | good luck! I've been battling with an old nvidia card.... | 20:12 |
| Kerbero | so i guess i'm using the neveau drivers | 20:12 |
| Waceman | I haven't tried those, you? | 20:13 |
| Kerbero | don't know if i should install the drivers or not | 20:13 |
| Kerbero | well they should be the deafoult now | 20:13 |
| afrodeity | try rebooting into the console | 20:13 |
| afrodeity | shift or tab depending on the version | 20:13 |
| afrodeity | when you reboot hold the key down | 20:13 |
| superfly | Waceman: you could try the noveau drivers, they might actually work for you | 20:14 |
| Waceman | ok, I'll do that next | 20:14 |
| Waceman | superfly, what do you make of this, "ADVANCED: You can install the NVIDIA kernel module for a non | 20:15 |
| Waceman | running kernel (for example: in the situation where you just built | 20:15 |
| Waceman | and installed a new kernel, but have not rebooted yet) with a command | 20:15 |
| Waceman | line such as this: | 20:15 |
| Waceman | sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-71.86.14-pkg1.run --kernel-name='KERNEL_NAME' | 20:15 |
| Waceman | " | 20:15 |
| superfly | Waceman: that has no bearing on what you're doing unless you upgraded the kernel after having installed the drivers | 20:16 |
| Waceman | ok, did you see the error on pastebin... I have no idea what's wrong? | 20:16 |
| superfly | I honestly don't know either, it doesn't seem to really say what the problem is | 20:17 |
| Waceman | So any ideas from this at all, "Depending on where and how the kernel sources (or the | 20:19 |
| Waceman | kernel headers) were installed, you may need to specify | 20:19 |
| Waceman | their location with the SYSSRC environment variable or | 20:19 |
| Waceman | the equivalent nvidia-installer command line option." - eish I feel like I'm so close | 20:19 |
| Kilos | Waceman, was this your prob | 20:23 |
| Kilos | http://blog.al4.co.nz/2011/10/slow-desktop-performance-on-ubuntu-11-10-with-nvidia-graphics-cards/ | 20:24 |
| superfly | Waceman: I'd suggest trying the noveau drivers | 20:24 |
| Waceman | thanks guys | 20:24 |
| Kerbero | "slow performance" is a understatement | 20:25 |
| Kerbero | my mouse is lagging | 20:25 |
| Kilos | sorry it not fixed yet | 20:25 |
| Kilos | are they all nvidia related | 20:25 |
| Kerbero | well no idea | 20:25 |
| Waceman | yeah my mouse was shockingly slow | 20:25 |
| Kerbero | only been using this install for about 20hrs now | 20:25 |
| Waceman | I wanted to install 10.04, but can't find my CD ;( | 20:26 |
| Kilos | Waceman, dont stay away when you foud the prob | 20:26 |
| Waceman | Kerbero: I activated the drivers and it was much faster... only thing is Unity didn't load... :P | 20:26 |
| Kilos | Waceman, you uncapped | 20:26 |
| Waceman | no, but got bandwidth | 20:26 |
| Kilos | unity wont use a 32m graphics card | 20:26 |
| Waceman | is that the problem?? | 20:27 |
| Kilos | no i was thinking of downloading the iso for maverick but data is too expensive | 20:27 |
| Waceman | you on adsl? | 20:27 |
| Kilos | no | 20:28 |
| Kilos | voda | 20:28 |
| Waceman | eish 3G is very expensive... I've been chowed by them for a couple years.. | 20:28 |
| Kilos | yeah its murder | 20:28 |
| Kilos | would be interested to see if maverick works there | 20:29 |
| Waceman | superfly, does this make sense to you? https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=62667 | 20:30 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, you not in bed yet | 20:35 |
| Kilos | Waceman, when you found the solution blog about it so others can get help | 20:40 |
| Waceman | I'm trying your updated drivers now | 20:40 |
| Waceman | then I'll try nouveau | 20:40 |
| Waceman | then I'll throw the pc out the window | 20:40 |
| Kilos | no man | 20:40 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:41 |
| Kilos | im msure unity is more mod pc oriented | 20:41 |
| Kilos | orientated | 20:41 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos, not yet... changing to night shift of tomorrow night | 20:41 |
| Waceman | ya... but my pc could play quake 3 perfectly ;) | 20:41 |
| Kilos | mine plays AOE3 but in some funny mode because it needs a 64m graphics card | 20:42 |
| Kilos | with xp | 20:43 |
| Kilos | but it cant do ubity | 20:43 |
| Kilos | unity | 20:43 |
| Kilos | time to learn kubuntu | 20:43 |
| nlsthzn | kde can be heavy with all the pretty set up high | 20:44 |
| Kilos | eish | 20:44 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, is the unity package in maverick the same as unity in 11.04 and 11.10 | 20:45 |
| Kilos | its only 1 and a bit meg download | 20:46 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos, no (AFAIK) | 20:46 |
| Kilos | i just dunno what it will do to my gnome | 20:46 |
| nlsthzn | the first Unity was a "netbook remix) | 20:46 |
| nlsthzn | then it changed for Natty | 20:47 |
| Kilos | oh so trying it in maverick is a waste of time | 20:47 |
| Kilos | and data | 20:47 |
| Kilos | Kerbero, you different nick from work? | 20:48 |
| * nlsthzn agrees | 20:48 | |
| Kerbero | nope | 20:48 |
| Kilos | who is that dlimit | 20:48 |
| Kerbero | ne idea | 20:49 |
| Kerbero | my stuff seems to work actually | 20:49 |
| Kerbero | with the nvidia drivers | 20:49 |
| nlsthzn | lekker slaap almal | 20:50 |
| Kilos | nag nlsthzn jy ook | 20:51 |
| Kilos | Waceman, try sudo dpkg --configure -a | 20:51 |
| Waceman | k, still installing new version | 20:52 |
| Kilos | oh ok | 20:52 |
| Kilos | hope it works now | 20:52 |
| Kilos | new version of nvidia hey/ | 20:53 |
| Kilos | not new ubuntu | 20:53 |
| Waceman | how do I connect to the international ubuntu chatroom? | 20:53 |
| Waceman | ya | 20:53 |
| Waceman | ;p | 20:53 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:53 |
| Kilos | /j #ubuntu | 20:53 |
| Kilos | theres 1700 peeps there | 20:54 |
| Kilos | can get lost there | 20:55 |
| Kilos | dunno how anyone follows that lot | 20:56 |
| Waceman | Empathy froze.. | 20:56 |
| Kilos | you here on empathy? | 20:57 |
| Kilos | get xchat | 20:57 |
| Waceman | ya | 20:57 |
| Kilos | i dont like empathy | 20:57 |
| Kilos | use xchat for irc and pidgin for other im | 20:58 |
| Kilos | good luck Waceman see you tomorrow again | 21:04 |
| afrodeity | weechat plus byobu | 21:04 |
| Kilos | night all sleep tight | 21:04 |
| Waceman | cheers man... sorry on the phone | 21:04 |
| Waceman | thanks for your help | 21:04 |
| Kilos | np | 21:04 |
| Kilos | i here every day | 21:04 |
| Kilos | thnk when its working | 21:04 |
| afrodeity | miles is a bot | 21:04 |
| Kilos | maybe i dream up a solution | 21:04 |
| Kilos | lol | 21:05 |
| afrodeity | cli cult | 21:05 |
| Kilos | too much brain work | 21:05 |
| Kilos | hey Waceman | 21:05 |
| Waceman | ? | 21:06 |
| Kilos | can you get back to before you tried to install the nvidia driver | 21:06 |
| Kilos | like a recovery mode on booting | 21:06 |
| Kilos | an early one | 21:07 |
| Waceman | think so | 21:08 |
| Waceman | ? | 21:08 |
| Waceman | I may just reinstall the whole OS | 21:08 |
| afrodeity | what I suggested | 21:08 |
| afrodeity | not | 21:08 |
| afrodeity | recovery mode | 21:08 |
| Kilos | then go with those noveau drivers from there | 21:08 |
| Waceman | ok | 21:08 |
| Kilos | or install from scratch might be quicker | 21:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 21:09 |
| Kilos | i think also maybe where it said driver is installed but not activated or something | 21:12 |
| Waceman | yeah it said that?? | 21:12 |
| Kilos | could be because there another driver working there that needs to be removed first | 21:12 |
| Kilos | like clash of interests | 21:12 |
| Waceman | I removed them all... then installed just 96 | 21:12 |
| Kilos | whew | 21:13 |
| Kilos | youm still in cli mode\ | 21:14 |
| Kilos | how do you get to synaptic from there | 21:15 |
| Kilos | in synaptic you can try edit and fix broken | 21:17 |
| Kilos | if ocelot still has that function | 21:17 |
| Kilos | or this | 21:18 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get --fix-broken | 21:18 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get -f install | 21:19 |
| Kilos | sudo dpkg --configure -a | 21:19 |
| Kilos | lol hopefully one of them works | 21:20 |
| tumbleweed | those get you out of a partial upgrade | 21:21 |
| tumbleweed | if dpkg hasn't aborted, none of those will do anything useful for you | 21:21 |
| * tumbleweed reads the backscroll | 21:21 | |
| Kilos | ty tumbleweed he has crazy nvidia probs | 21:21 |
| Kilos | driver installed but not activated | 21:21 |
| tumbleweed | did I see something about downloading the driver from nivida.com? Seriously don't do that. It does horrible things that are hard to undo | 21:22 |
| * tumbleweed once spent a couple of hours trying to uninstall one of those... | 21:22 | |
| Kilos | Waceman, ^^ | 21:22 |
| Kilos | he needs an old driver tumbleweed | 21:23 |
| Kilos | he found it but then probs started | 21:23 |
| Kilos | was a .run packge | 21:23 |
| tumbleweed | yeah :/ | 21:23 |
| tumbleweed | oh wow, that card is a relic :) | 21:23 |
| tumbleweed | right, not supported by any of the packaged drivers... | 21:24 |
| Kilos | oh my | 21:25 |
| Kilos | Waceman, where are you | 21:29 |
| Kilos | night guys. i falling of chair here | 21:30 |
| Waceman | yo, was on the phone | 21:30 |
| tumbleweed | Waceman: so, what was the problem with the driver package you downloaded from nvidia? | 21:31 |
| Waceman | OK, so brand new fresh install, on an old pc... everything loads fine... except everything is very slow.. mouse jittering... so I realise nvidia drivers not installed... So installing nvidia-current | 21:32 |
| Waceman | reboot... all seems fine.. but Unity doesn't load... if I get "Additional Drivers" says driver is activated but not in use"... | 21:33 |
| Waceman | removed that driver.. then went to synaptic package manager... installed version 96... which is an older version... | 21:33 |
| tumbleweed | right, because none of the nvidia drivers packaged for Ubuntu support your card | 21:33 |
| Waceman | Unity loads on reboot... but still jittery | 21:33 |
| Waceman | right | 21:33 |
| tumbleweed | the 96 verison supports GeForce series 2 and later, according to the package description | 21:33 |
| Waceman | so I found a package.. 71 | 21:33 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, that's what you need | 21:34 |
| Waceman | yeah, but I have GeForce 256 DDR | 21:34 |
| tumbleweed | 256 < 2 | 21:34 |
| Waceman | but package 71 is only on nVidia website, not in synaptic | 21:34 |
| tumbleweed | correct | 21:34 |
| Waceman | yes | 21:34 |
| tumbleweed | and now? | 21:34 |
| Waceman | ok, so Then I try to run the intsallation file, and I get Kernel Source / Headers error | 21:35 |
| tumbleweed | do you have linux-headers-generic installed? | 21:35 |
| Waceman | not sure? | 21:35 |
| Waceman | but I think I"ve tried that | 21:36 |
| tumbleweed | install it, then | 21:36 |
| tumbleweed | ok, what exactly was that error you are getting | 21:36 |
| Waceman | first, I'd like to remove this repository? add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates | 21:36 |
| Waceman | cuz I added it for the very latest drivers | 21:37 |
| tumbleweed | use ppa-purge | 21:37 |
| Waceman | what's the full command line for that? | 21:37 |
| tumbleweed | install the ppa-purge package | 21:37 |
| Waceman | I'm newb my brother ;) | 21:37 |
| tumbleweed | sudo apt-get install ppa-purge | 21:37 |
| Waceman | ok, have found it on synaptic? | 21:38 |
| Waceman | same thing? | 21:38 |
| tumbleweed | install it | 21:38 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 21:38 |
| tumbleweed | then run sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates | 21:38 |
| Waceman | sorry man, had to get rid of a rain spider... ok all is uninstalled... | 21:45 |
| Waceman | tumbleweed: what's the command of linux-headers? | 21:46 |
| tumbleweed | sudo apt-get install linux-headers-generic | 21:46 |
| tumbleweed | (you might notice the pattern) :P | 21:46 |
| Waceman | hehe :) | 21:47 |
| Waceman | OK, says I already have the newest version | 21:47 |
| Waceman | This is the driver I'm Installing: http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/linux-display-ia32-71.86.14-driver-uk.html Maybe the readme will make more sense to you. | 21:48 |
| tumbleweed | sounds right | 21:48 |
| tumbleweed | ok, what's the error you are seeing? | 21:48 |
| Waceman | Here's the error log when I run the install file... http://pastebin.com/jnSz3L0K | 21:49 |
| tumbleweed | it doesn't support your kernel version | 21:50 |
| tumbleweed | probably expecting 2.6 rather than 3.0 | 21:50 |
| Waceman | ok, anyway around it? | 21:50 |
| Waceman | ya | 21:50 |
| tumbleweed | not easily | 21:51 |
| Waceman | so my PC just too old for 11.10? | 21:51 |
| tumbleweed | Is nouveau not usable? That's what I use | 21:52 |
| Waceman | That's what I'm going to try now | 21:52 |
| tumbleweed | you probably want unity-2d | 21:52 |
| Waceman | how's the 3d for that? | 21:52 |
| tumbleweed | 3d causes it to crash, so I avoid that | 21:52 |
| tumbleweed | but I can get away with a few minutes of 3d every now and then | 21:53 |
| Waceman | It logs me in with the 3d version, but it's really 2d | 21:53 |
| Waceman | ok, shall I use synaptic for nouveau? | 21:53 |
| tumbleweed | (the machine I'm talking about runs Debian, so I haven't tried unity on nouveau) | 21:53 |
| tumbleweed | also, nouveau 3d support varies between card models | 21:53 |
| Waceman | worth a try for me | 21:53 |
| tumbleweed | right, there's nothing you need to install. You're probably already using it | 21:54 |
| Waceman | I removed all nouveau looking things in synaptic, in case there was a conflict ;) | 21:54 |
| tumbleweed | ok, in that case install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau | 21:55 |
| Waceman | k, will I need to activate it? or is that just for propriotary? | 21:56 |
| tumbleweed | correct, it'll just work | 21:56 |
| Waceman | ok, how do I make it auto log in on 2d? | 21:58 |
| tumbleweed | click on the nut to the right of the login dialog and select unity-2d | 21:58 |
| Waceman | ok, but I'm not using a login screen... just auto loading into ubunut | 21:58 |
| tumbleweed | reenable the login screen then :) | 21:59 |
| Waceman | hehe | 21:59 |
| Waceman | what kernel is 11.04? | 21:59 |
| Waceman | kernel version? | 21:59 |
| tumbleweed | 2.6.38 | 22:01 |
| Waceman | nouveau is just a bit laggy.. no way you can think of getting those drivers installed? | 22:02 |
| tumbleweed | not without playing with them myself. | 22:04 |
| tumbleweed | you can wait for nvidia to update them for newer kernels... | 22:04 |
| Waceman | ok... btw, when I installed the 96 ones... and updated the xorg.conf ... my pc didn't boot into any GUI... | 22:06 |
| Waceman | could only use terminal | 22:06 |
| tumbleweed | right, because X couldn't start with te configuration file you'd told it to use | 22:07 |
| Waceman | cuz the drivers didn't support my card? | 22:08 |
| tumbleweed | yes | 22:08 |
| Waceman | ok thanks man.. you've been very helpful :) | 22:08 |
| tumbleweed | np | 22:08 |
| Waceman | which linux do you use? | 22:09 |
| * tumbleweed is a Debian & Ubuntu Developer. But I primarily use Debian | 22:10 | |
| Waceman | so you are quite hardcore then ;p | 22:11 |
| tumbleweed | heh, a little | 22:11 |
| Waceman | thanks man, I'm outta here | 22:13 |
| tumbleweed | cheers, good luck | 22:15 |
| tumbleweed | I'm amazed that card is still functional | 22:15 |
| Waceman | lol - played Quake 3 like a champion | 22:15 |
| Waceman | tumbleweed: I'm back - if I install an older version of ubuntu, which would you recommend? | 22:19 |
| tumbleweed | lucid, it's LTS | 22:19 |
| Waceman | 10.04? | 22:19 |
| tumbleweed | yeah | 22:19 |
| tumbleweed | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases | 22:19 |
| tumbleweed | maverick and natty both go out of support next year | 22:20 |
| Waceman | ok thanks! | 22:20 |
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