[00:45] o/ [00:46] this was the worst ubuntu upgrade i had ever [00:46] ended up reinstalling [05:27] morning superfly and others [05:27] Maaz, coffee on [05:27] * Maaz puts the kettle on [05:27] morning Kilos [05:28] hi Vince-0 [05:31] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [05:31] Maaz, ty [05:31] Enjoy Kilos [05:37] Hi Kilos [05:37] Morning Ubuntu-za - time for wek! [05:39] time for work? I've already been here an hour! [05:42] lol [05:43] you gotta make allowances for the young and the self employed superfly [05:43] morning [05:43] thanks Kilos [05:43] hi Squirm hows things [05:44] I usually wake up in about 30min time :P [05:44] but work made me wake up early [05:44] ah you wet the bed? [05:44] bwahaha [05:45] you still there near newcastle Squirm ? [05:45] Newcastle is about 1/1.5 hours away. if you consider that near, then yes [05:46] Maaz: coffee for all [05:46] Come on ya buncha geeks. Rock up with your mugs with the correct amount of sugar added already [05:46] Maaz: thanks [05:46] Squirm: No problem [05:46] whew i lost, forget where you are exactly apart from near a dam [05:46] chelmsford? [05:46] never heard of the place [05:46] Maaz, coffee please [05:46] Kilos: There isn't a pot on [05:46] a town called Winterton [05:46] s/town/hole [05:47] oh yes thats it [05:47] what are you doing now Squirm [05:50] I'm and IT Techy [05:52] and it finally got interesting [05:53] in winterton [05:53] maybe not *interesting*, but better than it's been [05:53] Kilos: yep [05:53] or you doing online work [05:53] in WInterton [05:54] thats good though. the winterton i member was to small to have more than 5 pc's in the wghole town [05:54] whole [05:54] just got a new client, lots of work needs to be done there. he has a big pig farm and lots of work. he didn't trust the other IT guy he used [05:55] but he set up the network right, many network cables and they're all just jumbled up behind the main PC [05:55] give it your best shot. the name you make for yourself when young you carry with you to the end [05:55] guess who has to sort them out [05:56] yeah ian also bitching about the last guys mess ups [05:56] it's a pain [05:56] but when you get paid per hour, shouldn't complain hey... [05:56] lol no [05:57] going to get a rackmount switch and stick it all nicely in that [05:57] rather than having 2 small 8-port switches [05:57] good [05:58] it's not a *lot* of cables like some guys are used to, but it's just a business :P [05:58] and finally getting to setup the Long Range CPE's in the field ^^ [05:58] yeah but make him happy and he will tell others [05:58] see how they play out [05:58] Ubiquiti NanoStation M5 [05:59] he's on a farm, so linking his butchery, offices, house, etc. they're all spaced apart [06:00] and hopefully going to install IP cameras :) [06:01] ian is also doing lots of that for security etc [06:01] but all the software only works on windows [06:01] yes :( [06:10] anyways, I'm off [06:10] enjoy [06:11] hiya maiatoday [06:11] hi Kilos [06:12] jullle staan te vroeg op [06:13] môre ender [06:13] hi Ook Kilos :0 [06:13] ender, ek werk al :) [06:13] *oom [06:16] moring maiatoday, ender [06:17] hi superfly [06:20] hi superfly [06:38] morning all [06:46] hiya magespawn [06:46] aw [07:05] howdy all [07:05] lol again [07:05] wb [07:09] terrible lag the first time thought everyone was ignoring me [07:09] got the mythbuntu up and running [07:10] was even worse yesterday [07:10] on what pc magespawn [07:10] old one small ram etc [07:10] yup trying to get onto twitter and is taking awhile. [07:12] grrr [07:13] newish board running 1 gig of ddr2 ram but in an old case cause of the form factor [07:15] brb [07:35] power off till 1800 i think. and i forgot to charge fone [07:35] see yas darktime [07:36] be good [08:05] superfly: I can't login to the ubuntu-za website any more ;/ [08:54] drubin: which page are you on? what method are you using? what browser are you using? what error messages do you see? [08:57] superfly: Firefox, home page click log on - > http://ubuntu-za.org/user/login click on open id login [08:57] then login and it takes me to the sign up page [09:16] drubin: a bit busy here at the moment, will look when I have a chance [09:28] superfly: I didn't expect you to fix it now :) [11:10] yo [11:15] i am sure its gonna rain here. was told power would be off till 1800 but its on already [11:15] Maaz, coffee on [11:15] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [11:16] Maaz, quick before they kill the power again [11:16] Kilos: Huh? [11:16] twitbot [11:17] magespawn, you were gonna tell me the specs of that pc [11:18] dont act like you are thinking [11:18] i can smell the wood burning from here [11:19] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [11:20] Maaz, ty [11:20] Enjoy Kilos [11:20] hi Kilos [11:20] hiya superfly min dae hey [11:20] hi kilos yup hold on [11:20] Kilos: too busy to notice [11:21] lol [11:22] kilos remind me tomorrow the pc is packed up and ready to be moved [11:22] ok [11:32] i need to use the os cannot remember the spec but has 1 gig of ram but now 40 gig hard drive [11:34] strangely enough no problems getting the os installed this time, so maybe that drive was faulty from the start [11:43] yeah musta been hurt [11:43] 1g ram is lekker [11:43] lo kbmonkey [11:43] yo [11:44] yup want to see how it is going to handle all the media on my external drive [11:44] Kilos, I made a terminal profile for elinks. bigger font, black-on-white color, and set elinks options to use 256 colors. much nicer to use with mouse. [11:44] shouldnt have any probs [11:45] i got 640m ram and can watch and play anything [11:45] lol kbmonkey how you did that [11:45] i also want to stream from there to other points in the house [11:45] hi magespawn [11:45] hi kb monkey [11:46] or kbmonkey [11:47] hehe [11:47] him too ya [11:49] in the terminal menu you can edit the 'profiles' Kilos. you can then make a desktop shortcut to run gnome-terminal, and give it the "--window-with-profile=NAME --execute elinks" options to sort you out ;) [11:50] ty i will look into that [11:52] eish what does all that mean [11:52] --window-with-profile=NAME --execute elinks [11:53] does that go in new on profiles [11:53] it opens gnome-terminal with the profile you give it, and runs elinks :p [11:53] sorry do I move too fast? [11:53] duh [11:53] i am there but what goes in by name [11:54] or is that a complete command [11:54] ah, NAME would be whatever name you gave the profile you added :) [11:58] where do i put in that command [11:58] 1) add a new terminal profile and call it NAME [11:59] 2) create a shortcut on your desktop or a launcher in your menu, with the command [11:59] that's all [11:59] oh you mean use that command in the terminal to open elinks? [12:00] yup [12:00] whew === sdehaan_ is now known as sdehaan [12:00] you can run it in a terminal, but you can put it in a shortcut on your desktop for easiness [12:00] "gnome-terminal --window-with-profile=NAME --execute elinks" [12:01] sorry I am going quite fast today. was up super early to jog XD [12:01] what has changed [12:02] looks same [12:02] np [12:02] just thought you would like this trick [12:02] lol whats changed [12:02] its easier to type just elinks in terminal [12:02] you can now change the font of the NAME profile [12:03] oh [12:03] choose something more readable, so it looks more like a real web page [12:03] and its easier to click on the links with your mouse! [12:03] you can also set a custom title for the window if you want [12:04] disable scroll bars if you need, and such things. just little tricks [12:05] i havent even been able to find fonts in elinks or make a shortcut to desktop even [12:05] sigh [12:06] you mean gnome-terminal. you change the fonts in there, not elinks [12:06] oh is okay, just thought I point that out :) [12:07] where is this gnome terminal [12:07] i got plain terminal and root terminal [12:08] click the menu "Help" and "About", what does that say [12:08] dont laugh you too far away to klap [12:08] he he he ;p [12:08] just the plain terminal should do [12:09] only use root for admin type stuff [12:09] the help has contents and get help online etc [12:09] later all, another game drive in the rain today. will tweet some more photos if possible. [12:09] ok magespawn [12:10] sounds great enjoy magespawn [12:12] leave that thing for now i will read the contents of that gnome terminal help [12:12] whew [12:36] bbl === sdehaan_ is now known as sdehaan === kbmonkey_ is now known as kbmonkey [18:48] evning all of ya [18:48] evening as well [18:52] Alo uncle Kilos ... I have to go and play some Word of Tanks now to figure out why I should bother :p [18:53] lol explain that in english [18:54] if its a game then go enjoy [18:54] its the to figure out bit i no unnerstand [19:00] hi Waceman [19:00] did you win [19:00] sorry we were busy inna meeting last night [19:00] no worries... not yet mate.. [19:01] trying to install the drivers from a manual download [19:01] was something with nvidia hey [19:01] but the installer says I need to do something with Kernal Sources and Kernal Headers? [19:01] I've downloaded a package which says it has support for my card [19:02] so think this will do the trick.. [19:02] need to do what [19:02] lets hope [19:02] quite a mission ;) [19:02] going to go mal when I get this working! :D [19:04] mine worked on default [19:04] havent ever needed other drivers [19:04] how new is your pc? nvidia? [19:05] and my pc old [19:05] methinks 1999 [19:05] first p4 [19:05] 11.10? [19:05] I think I got mine in 2001 [19:05] still plays quake 3 like a champ! 8) [19:06] and ati graphics but withonly 32m ram on graphics card [19:06] yeah, me too [19:06] using 11.04 with gnome atm... dig it [19:06] on this pc [19:07] yeah gnome works well for me but i on maverick and will go ocelot inna few weeks [19:08] i tried 11.04 and it complained about the graphics card [19:08] then something didnt work kiff so i went back to 10.10 [19:08] quake3 on windows? [19:09] i gave up gaming when i went ubuntu [19:10] hey Vince-0 what are you using [19:10] OS wise [19:10] yeah windows ME haha [19:10] lol [19:10] I gave up gaming a couple years ago too [19:10] with win ME, I used to format the thing once a week [19:11] we used to have some guys here that were big time gamers [19:11] oh yes i know all about win me [19:11] wasnt bad at all [19:11] as long as you dont mind formatting often as you say [19:12] then i went xp and formatted even more often [19:12] then i went online for the first time and learned about virusses [19:15] haha [19:15] OK - here's the error... brace yourself [19:15] lol sometimes formatted twice in one day [19:15] "Depending on where and how the kernel sources (or the kernel headers) were installed, you may need to specify their location with the SYSSRC environment variable or the equivalient nvidia-installer command line option." [19:16] superfly, please explain that in ballie taal for me [19:17] the kernel its talking about is what kernel [19:17] the linux kernel or nvidia [19:17] beats me man [19:17] this is a read me on how to install the drivers [19:17] Waceman, superfly is our local python fundi [19:17] http://uk.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/71.86.14/README/README [19:17] check the section on "KERNEL INTERFACES" [19:18] have you read the readme? [19:19] i havent got data to go see links [19:19] sorry [19:19] well, up until that section [19:19] "[1] NOTE: installation requires that you have a linker installed. [19:19] The linker, usually '/usr/bin/ld', is part of the binutils package; [19:19] please be sure you have this package installed prior to installing the [19:19] NVIDIA driver." [19:19] what is this guys? [19:20] lemme see in synaptic [19:21] you have aptitude [19:21] ?? [19:21] dunno ;P [19:21] I have synaptic? [19:21] you know how to use cli/ [19:21] terminal [19:22] in synaptic type in binutils in the top right little window [19:22] the search block [19:23] it should show immediately [19:23] I've shutdown lightdm as it was required by the installer... [19:23] so it's just sitting on the error message atm [19:23] without having to hit search [19:24] ok that nvidia package [19:24] have you got the details of which version nvidfia card it is [19:24] ya [19:25] look in synaptic type in nvidia [19:25] and look through them for that version [19:25] This is my problem: Driver version 71 is the only one that says it supports my card... the rest don't... in synapic.. the oldest driver package is 96.. no 71 [19:25] () - [/] [19:26] eish [19:26] silly plugin [19:26] what does that mean afrodeity [19:26] weechat didn't load something [19:26] or I forget the key combo [19:27] Waceman, [19:27] you have that package downloaded hey? [19:27] is it a .deb file [19:27] yes, it's sitting in my downloads folder [19:27] no, it's a .run [19:27] there the prob [19:27] how old is the card? [19:27] 2001 ;) [19:28] lovely [19:28] GeForce 256 DDR [19:28] it's great [19:28] in synaptic get alien [19:28] why? haha [19:28] ubuntu likes .deb files [19:29] the install doesn't work with GUI... it requires the GUI to be shut down.. only terminal [19:29] alien converts .tar.gz and if i member it can convert .run files to .deb as well [19:29] ? [19:29] then use a terminal [19:30] you have no gui at the moment?? [19:30] no battery in my mouse [19:30] so i flipped off the gui [19:30] it much better down here [19:31] not you afrodeity Waceman [19:31] lol [19:31] Kilos: no GUI [19:31] Waceman, have you got gui at the moment [19:31] only terminal [19:31] gr8 [19:31] more of the installation error [19:31] "If you are using Linux 2.6 kernel, please make sure you hav configured kernel sources matching your kernel installed on your system. IF you specified a seperate output directory using either the "KBUILD_OUTPUT" or the "O" KBUILD parameter, make sure to specify this directory with the SYSOUT environment variable or with the equivalent nvidia -installer command line option." [19:31] ok the in terminal type in [19:31] sudo apt-get install alien [19:32] did you self-install your kernel? [19:32] no [19:32] ok I get it you want to compile the nvidia driver? [19:33] does this alien convert the package to a dep file? [19:33] I dunno? [19:33] yes alien is a converter of .tar and .run to .deb [19:33] compile from source matching your card description, at least last known working source for card [19:34] afrodeity: to get you up to speed... I have shiteold graphics card... none of the conventional ways of installing the nvidia drivers works... The only driver package which supporsts my card is package 71... So I downloaded if off www.nvidia.com... trying to install that [19:34] good [19:34] Kilos: the install file is running... [19:35] but gives the abovementioned errors after a couple of steps [19:35] why it started running now? [19:35] eish [19:35] always was running [19:35] ok [19:35] I used "sh" command [19:36] have you got alien now [19:36] i've configured my kernel sources once [19:36] was some time ago [19:36] afrodeity: http://uk.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/71.86.14/README/README [19:36] Check that out, and look under "Kernel Interfaces" and let me know if it makes sense? [19:36] have to switch to another term to do tht [19:37] Waceman, look at that site and see if they have a .deb file [19:37] ok lemme try it... but I don't think that's the problem [19:38] on ubuntu you cant install .tar or .run files directly [19:38] unless you very clever [19:39] but i dont understand why your install didnt give you a default gui [19:40] this is what came in the readme [19:40] Before beginning the driver installation, you should exit the X server. [19:41] README looks terrible in elinks [19:41] doesn't look much better on prober gui ;) [19:42] I need a browser list down here [19:43] down where [19:43] xterm [19:43] why you closed gui [19:44] Waceman, sorry i was thinking of .rpm paclage [19:44] packages [19:45] ok Waceman lets see if you have gdebi [19:46] then you right click the package and install with gdebi package manager and it will get dependancies that are needed too [19:47] Kilos: appreciate the help.. but I think you're going in the wrong direction [19:47] i think from maverick gdebi is not installed by default [19:47] Waceman: you need to install the "build-essential" package, if you haven't already [19:47] the installer won't work in GUI no matter what you do to it [19:47] yes, I've done that superfly [19:48] Waceman: installing "linux-headers" should install the headers compatible with your kernel [19:48] yes [19:48] Waceman: then, I think you need to run the .run file as root [19:48] superfly, I used "sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`" [19:48] ?? [19:48] that works too [19:48] I've done that too [19:49] Waceman: Ubuntu has meta-packages, so you install one and it installs the correct version for you [19:49] Waceman: is that the only output you get, or is there other stuff too? [19:50] that just doesn't sound like the entire story to me [19:50] ?? [19:51] maybe the driver package is just too old for 11.10? [19:51] there used to be a lot more cli browsers on my system [19:52] superfly, can I send you the error log file? [19:52] Waceman: pastebin.com please [19:52] k, it's on my other pc.. just have to reboot to get it ;p [19:52] pastebin [19:53] not the command sorry [19:54] pastbinit [19:54] pastebinit [19:55] :) [19:58] superfly, this is the readme for the install file... maybe you'll understand it better than I do: http://uk.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/71.86.14/README/README [19:58] afrodeity, lynx links and links2 [19:59] Waceman, did you have no gui from when you started installing [19:59] Kilos: the readme for the installer said I had to kill X server [20:00] so I did everthing from a terminal [20:00] cuz the intaller won't work with gui running.. it promts you to kill it [20:00] from the ubuntu installer [20:01] no [20:01] didnt you even see the ubuntu options to install or try [20:01] Kilos: was looking for links2 thx [20:02] no what [20:02] yw [20:02] I tried software centre... did not work [20:02] I tried every version synaptic had to offer... did not work.. [20:02] Now I'm trying to install the drivers manuall.. and they just so happen to be the ones that support my card [20:02] i am asking about when you installed ubuntu [20:02] before the nvidia thing [20:02] I installed it fresh off a cd [20:03]