[00:00] <worstadmin> Fixed it
[00:00] <worstadmin> Im awesome
[00:00] <Locus_Asaf> jay: init.d is a file isn't it?
[00:00] <DasEi> blip-: I'm too busy to really go after your issue right now, it's not too hard else to install the right driver, so maybe find your g-card and ask here again
[00:00] <blip-> DasEi, np. thanks
[00:01] <shantorn_> blip do you kmow what card you have?
[00:01] <jay_why_bee> locus_adaf: not it is a directory...  lots of scripts
[00:01] <V13Axel> I have a rather odd situation. I just installed Ubuntu 11.04, and now for some reason, my 4.0 surround sound refuses to work. I've gone to Sound Preferences and changed it to 4.0, and made sure that the speakers were plugged into the right jacks, and they are. The main problem is that the master volume only controls the front speakers, the rear speakers are controlled by the ALSA plugin[plugin-container] under Applications, and refu
[00:01] <V13Axel> se to be changed otherwise.
[00:01] <Locus_Asaf> jay: should it be a !#/bin/sh type file?
[00:02] <blip-> shantorn, no it's a nvidia card in the laptop, anyway the problem here is that it's a Nvidia Optimus laptop ie 2 graphic cards.  And the official nvidia driver doesn't support this under Linux
[00:02] <Newbeeans> I typed the low resolution command....I now have - in blue going down the screen.
[00:02] <jay_why_bee> locus_Asaf: sure...  just make the script.  Reboot and test by hand.  Then put it in your init scripts.
[00:02] <shantorn_> i have the same system, let me get you what i used
[00:02] <Newbeeans> Should I do anthing or reboot?
[00:02] <c03> Can anyone help with an aptitude problem?
[00:02] <c03> http://pastebin.com/scEu5nvg
[00:03] <en1gma> im really wanting to put ubuntu iso on my usb drive but it wants to erase my grub4dos multi-boot options that i already have there....is there any way i can do ubuntu 11.10 iso on my usb stick and still have all the multiboot options i already have?
[00:03] <c03> I have tried all the apt-get clean all
[00:03] <c03> apt-get update
[00:03] <blip-> shantorn, ah ok.  I have a Lenovo T420 btw
[00:03] <c03> and -f install
[00:03] <FloodBot1> c03: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:03] <Locus_Asaf> jay: I'm not familiar with update-rc.d, what is that?
[00:03] <en1gma> if i just do pendrive usb setup i believe it will only have boot option for ubuntu
[00:03] <c03> I just write fast FloodBot1
[00:03] <c03> sorry
[00:03] <en1gma> so i still want to have some kind of multiboot meny so i can select my ISO`s
[00:03] <shantorn_> machine doesnt really matter its the optimus thats the glitch, give me 2-3 minutes to get it for you, it worked like a champ for me
[00:04] <blip-> shantorn_, great. thanks :)
[00:04] <Newbeeans> Channel: should I exit vim?
[00:04] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf : it simply creates the sym links in all the rc#.d runtime directories.
[00:04] <en1gma> there has to be an alternate way then pendrivelinux
[00:04] <en1gma> come on peeops
[00:04] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: If you know your runlevel,  (say 2) you can just create a link to your script in /etc/rc2.d
[00:05] <Locus_Asaf> jay: sorry, sym links and runlevels are over my head
[00:06] <Locus_Asaf> jay: Don't want to be a pest and make you explain too much here
[00:06] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: in the terminal go into /etc/rc2.d     Then do "ls -l" and you will see all the sym links pointing tho various scripts in /etc/init.d
[00:07] <shantorn_> blip- what does the trick is ironhide driver system https://launchpad.net/~mj-casalogic/+archive/ironhide/ go to the bottom of this site and read about natty it works for 11.10 as well http://linux-hybrid-graphics.blogspot.com/2011/08/ironhide-branch-first-release-including.html
[00:07] <Locus_Asaf> jay: yes I see that, I see this for example "S99rc.local -> ../init.d/rc.local"
[00:08] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: cool... so the S is for "start" and K is for "kill"
[00:08] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: the number is just the order it is executed
[00:08] <en1gma> just msg me...i cant tell if someone has replied to me because im in 4 channels asking same thing
[00:08] <en1gma> this is ubuntu related and no help
[00:08] <Locus_Asaf> jay: okay gotcha so far
[00:09] <Locus_Asaf> jay: so how do I set up these sym links?
[00:09] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: so if you want to link this script to start in runlevel 2.  And you copy your script called "my_portfowd" in /etc/init.d
[00:10] <DasEi1> en1gma: you could have an additional grub2 chainloaded by the one in your mbr  to achieve it, take it asa hint, no walkthrough now, installed to a partition, not the mbr for that
[00:10] <c03> Can anyone help resolve this: http://pastebin.com/scEu5nvg ???
[00:10] <en1gma> yea but the one i have now should already work
[00:10] <Locus_Asaf> jay: Okay, I have a script that just executes the three iptables commands inside /etc/init.d/
[00:10] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: you link with the following command: ln -s /etc/init.d/my_portfwd /etc/rc2.d/S99my_portfwd
[00:10] <en1gma> i get an error with i try to do it with ubuntu 11.10 about needs to be a continuous file
[00:11] <Seperand> Whats the difference in xterm and uxterm?
[00:11] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: also make sure your script: echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[00:12] <blip-> shantorn_, I thought there was no solution for this, so this ironhide lets you use only your discrete card on an Optimus system ?  Or it can switch between the 2 cards ?
[00:13] <shantorn_> it allows you to switch betweeen them, it defaults to the intel and you start 3d apps with optirun name of app from command line or change shortcut
[00:13] <blip-> shantorn_ hmm is this the same thing as the bumblebee project ?
[00:13] <shantorn_> the second page is an on going revoltion for it
[00:13] <Locus_Asaf> jay: That echo should be in the script you're saying?
[00:13] <shantorn_> its what bumblebee changed into
[00:13] <Newbeeans> I need to set my driver nvidia. How do I increase resolution?
[00:14] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: yes...  You will need to enable ip_forward on each restart.
[00:15] <Locus_Asaf> jay: is that what the echo does? I'm a bit confused because I haven't entered that command before, just the two iptable commands and the port forwarding worked
[00:15] <blip-> thanks shantorn_ I will try this out
[00:15] <overdub> googled for "install skype ubuntu 11.10" and got many pages saying to "apt-get install skype" but I get: Unable to locate package skype
[00:15] <overdub> anyone know how to fix this?
[00:15] <shantorn_> if in doubt google ironhide and read more
[00:16] <shantorn_> its an option
[00:16] <Newbeeans> How do I skip Ubuntu screen?
[00:16] <Newbeeans> I can't boot past it?
[00:16] <jay_why_bee> do a quick: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
[00:16] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: see if it is set to "1"
[00:16] <Locus_Asaf> no it's set to 0
[00:17] <blip-> shantorn_ ok great.   btw you ran this successfully on a Lenovo system or other brand ?
[00:17] <klslsl> having funny problems
[00:17] <shantorn_> asus with optimus
[00:17] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: but it is working?
[00:17] <csdb> hi. Is there a way to tell apt-get/aptitude to upgrade from only 1 source?
[00:17] <csdb> Couldn't find anything in the manpage
[00:17] <blip-> ok thanks for the help shantorn_
[00:18] <shantorn_> sure thing blip-
[00:18] <klslsl> when i open a virtual terminal to try and stop xserver it wont recognise my password says login failed
[00:18] <DasEi1> csdb: you can edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:18] <Locus_Asaf> jay: I have glassfish server installed whose default network listener is on 8080, when I load the server on 80 its is successfully redirecting to 8080 so seems to be okay
[00:18] <klslsl> means i cant install nvidia driver
[00:18] <shantorn_> did you setup su password?
[00:18] <shantorn_> klslsl,
[00:18] <digz> My left click doesn't work in Ubuntu 11.10.
[00:18] <shantorn_> are you trying to su or sudo klslsl
[00:18] <digz> I'm stuck in the LiveCD, where it does work.
[00:18] <klslsl> ?
[00:18] <klslsl> sudo
[00:19] <csdb> DasEi1, do you mean to comment all of the other ones out? I was hoping for a more command-line way :-)
[00:19] <shantorn_> thats odd the password doesnt work, hmm beets me sorry
[00:19] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: if you flush your iptables does it stop working?
[00:19] <klslsl> sudo sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86-285.05.09.run
[00:20] <DasEi1> csdb: is what I would do, though apt and dpkg have some options like holding certain packages and such
[00:20] <Locus_Asaf> how do you flush the iptables?
[00:20] <three18ti> what do you do when ubuntu docs say  /etc/inetd.conf should have a line in it, but your version of ubuntu doesn't use init scripts?  I feel like I should know the answer but I'm at a loss to explain why tftp doesn't work for PXE boot...
[00:20] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf what all chains are you using?  iptables -F
[00:20] <Locus_Asaf> jay: nvm I found it
[00:21] <digz> anyone?
[00:21] <klslsl> also  when login it doesnt work sometimes have to take power line and battery off to start up then nvidia flashes up on screen and it does work
[00:21] <Locus_Asaf> jay: the flush doesn't effect the forwarding
[00:21] <csdb> I have to tell some users how to upgrade just our local debs that are in our local repo and I'm afraid of telling them to go edit the sources.list
[00:21] <Locus_Asaf> jay: the only thing that messed with the forwarding was doing a restart of the machine
[00:21] <DasEi1> Locus_Asaf: sudo iptables --flush
[00:21] <csdb> maybe I'll write an sed script...
[00:21] <csdb> is there a way to enable/disable sources via commandline ?
[00:22] <DasEi1> csdb: can use nano as editor or move/recreate the list
[00:22] <csdb> so that I could "disable all sources but mine; upgrade; re-enable disabled sources" in a script?
[00:22] <DasEi1> sure
[00:23] <DasEi1> man mv, man echo, man cut, man touch ..
[00:23] <Locus_Asaf> jay: is there a way to overwrite or delete the ln thing I executed, I think I messed it up slightly
[00:23] <csdb> DasEi1, thanks. I'll try to play around with a script that replaces sources.list,upgrades, and then puts back the original
[00:24] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf sure, just "rm"
[00:24] <DasEi1> csdb: there you are
[00:25] <Locus_Asaf> jay: okay it's looking good
[00:25] <Locus_Asaf> jay: should I just do a restart and see what happens now?
[00:26] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: it is the only way to be sure... :)
[00:26] <DasEi1> csdb: on the other hand, try such 'games in a vm, you can easily bork systems with such
[00:26] <klslsl> ne programmer logically work out why password wont work in virtual terminal
[00:26] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. Having a problem getting my printer to print in grayscale since upgrading to 11.10. Tried reinstalling hplip, no change. There is a new "option" too--"color", but nothing is there. ANyone having similar issues?
[00:26] <bfrederi> Hi, I'm having trouble booting 11.10. I've installed it from scratch, but every time I boot up, it stops around the "Checking Battery state" message. I think it has something to do with the nvidia drivers, but I don't know how to get rid of them.
[00:27] <Locus_Asaf> jay: not sure why the flush doesn't do anything nor if I need to change the ip4 port forward
[00:27] <econdudeawesome> bfrederi: I would get that occasionally. One thing to try is getting into a tty-shell (alt f1 through alt f6) once you reach that portion, and run the command "startx" or "gdm". Then restart and see if the xserver config righted itself
[00:28] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf: It is curious.  I was wondering if you needed it at all...
[00:28] <econdudeawesome> bfrederi: if not, at least you have a good idea to start a fix
[00:28] <Locus_Asaf> jay: that sym link seems to have done the trick
[00:28] <methods1> where would i configure things that i use to put into intitab now ?
[00:29] <bfrederi> econdudeawesome: whenever I ran that, it would fail on me.
[00:29] <econdudeawesome> bfrederi: what error do you get? Is x installed?
[00:29] <jay_why_bee> locus_asaf.  Great news!   For more understanding checkout the man page on update-rc.d
[00:29] <bfrederi> econdudeawesome: as far as I know?
[00:30] <bfrederi> econdudeawesome: I'm running from the live CD right now, so I'm not sure how to check.
[00:30] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! I have a problem. My best friend has been hacked on Facebook and wants to recover her password. Do any of you know how to get it back?
[00:30] <econdudeawesome> bfrederi: do you have a GUI, or are you running command-line?
[00:31] <bfrederi> econdudeawesome: GUI on live cd.
[00:31] <DasEi1> JoseeAntonioR: offtopic here, send FB an email (lol, and delete account), ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:31] <JoseeAntonioR> DasEi1 Thanks.
[00:31] <Locus_Asaf> jay: thank you very much for your help
[00:31] <bfrederi> econdudeawesome: I can install anything from command line. It can't access the repositories for whatever reason.
[00:31] <econdudeawesome> bfrederi: interesting. I've had this issue before, but usually running "startx" would do it, or running "gdm" (well, Ubuntu 11.10 doesn't use GDM anymore, so whichever it uses. Let me check).
[00:31] <Locus_Asaf> does updating to oneiric really take several hours?
[00:31] <bfrederi> *can't install
[00:32] <econdudeawesome> !ubottu
[00:32] <jay_why_bee> Locus_asaf: Not a problem.  Glad I could be of some help.
[00:32] <econdudeawesome> !gdm econdudeawesome
[00:32] <klslsl> ubuntu is out of control no one know what to do life of its own
[00:32] <swooper> sup people
[00:32] <klslsl> im going to call my brother in law he codes in his sleep
[00:32] <bfrederi> econdudeawesome: trying to start gdm or kdm didn't work for me, it said it didn't exist when I tried from command line.
[00:33] <FireSt0rM> Is there a core package that one can install onto Ubuntu Server?
[00:33] <econdudeawesome> bfrederi: the standard install of Ubuntu 11.10 no longer uses gdm, it uses lightdm. But I don't know if the command is "lightdm"
[00:33] <econdudeawesome> bfrederi: you could try that, as lightdm tab-completes in my terminal (its what I use)
[00:33] <Locus_Asaf> has anyone updgrade to oneiric or how ever it's spelled? How long does it take to update?
[00:33] <klslsl> 'try that'
[00:34] <klslsl> hear that alot
[00:34] <klslsl> ...
[00:34] <klslsl> dont update install from scratch
[00:34] <econdudeawesome> klslsl: Yes. I am not a paid professional, nor are many here, but the complaints are typically statistically common, allowing us to call upon collective knowledge
[00:34] <john32> hmm for some reason eog won't open at all and i can't seem to find any logs of it or anything in terminal
[00:34] <econdudeawesome> klslsl: questions* not complaints
[00:34] <Locus_Asaf> klslsl: was that a response to my question?
[00:35] <klslsl> yes
[00:35] <klslsl> dont update install from scratch
[00:35] <Locus_Asaf> I'm in the middle of updating, is my ubuntu going to be screwed now?
[00:35] <klslsl> i saw that on a header on ubuntu disccussion forum in mibbit
[00:35] <klslsl> so i guess its good advice
[00:35] <econdudeawesome> any luck bfre
[00:35] <econdudeawesome> bfrederi: any luck?
[00:36] <jay_why_bee> I updated last night to 11.10.  I am on it now just fine.
[00:36] <klslsl> other than that have no idea what im talking about can code simple visual basic nothing more. bash is an anathma
[00:36] <cbilljones> can i start gnome from ssh?
[00:36] <swooper> are people freakign out about updating
[00:37] <bfrederi> econdudeawesome: I'm running from live CD, I will have to reboot to do anything. Then it takes like 100 years to load all this shit up from CD, so I'm goning to take my time and get a few solid ideas put together.
[00:37] <bfrederi> Or just switch to Mint Linux...
[00:37] <swooper> mint runs quicker?
[00:37] <bfrederi> swooper: I hear good things.
[00:37] <newmar> there is some package that i can use for listening music when i put the cursor in a music in ubuntu 11.10
[00:38] <bfrederi> Ubuntu is getting bloated in my opinion.
[00:38] <john32> okay ths is annoying i can't seem to get any output to why eye of gnome wont load
[00:38] <john32>  nothing in syslog, nothing in console
[00:38] <john32> nothing in gdb even with eog-dbg
[00:38] <leo-unglaub> hi firends, is the file preview sushi compatible with unity or only with the gnome shell?
[00:39] <swooper> bfrederi: bloated? good consideration -> after i updated to 11.10 on my netbook i went to xubuntu
[00:39] <john32> and too many useless posts like this one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1001660
[00:39] <newmar> i installed sushi but doesn t work
[00:39] <klslsl> can someone tell me what backend, daemon and mysqil are
[00:39] <swooper> MYSQL?
[00:40] <klslsl> or summin like that
[00:40] <leo-unglaub> newmar: hmmm, but have you any  negative effects?
[00:40] <klslsl> pysquil
[00:40] <swooper> klslsl: cant u look those up on wiki
[00:40] <newmar> leo-unglaub, nothing
[00:40] <klslsl> oh i suppose yes
[00:40] <leo-unglaub> okay, so i will try it :)
[00:40] <swooper> daemon is like a background service i think
[00:40] <klslsl> i wish i understood the linux file name system
[00:41] <newmar> leo-unglaub, just when i upgrade to 11.10 stop working songs when i pass the cursor
[00:41] <swooper> ie printer daemon listens and acts on a port
[00:41] <klslsl> was just getting head around windows
[00:41] <klslsl> .exe etc
[00:41] <klslsl> ta
[00:41] <swooper> klsl: i think its a matter of considering what the devs though of. exe = executable etc
[00:41] <tensorpudding> klslsl, mysql is a database software
[00:42] <klslsl> whats a dev file or etc file for instance
[00:42] <ultima> hello guys, I'm trying the last version of Xubuntu (11.10) and I have tried yet the 11.04 but I had a lot of problems!! and so now I want to come back for another old release of Xubuntu.... what is the best??
[00:42] <leo-unglaub> newmar: well, it works...but beautifull is deferent :)
[00:42] <Newbeeans> Uninstalling again...
[00:42] <tensorpudding> klslsl, a backend is a abstract notion of the part of some machine, algorithm, software, etc. that does "heavy" processing work, and exchanges I/O with some sort of "frontend" which deals with actual humans
[00:42] <klslsl> i c
[00:43] <Lehthanis> I got a quick dumb question.  how do I shell into another server from terminal?
[00:43] <newmar> leo-unglaub, which package do you used
[00:43] <klslsl> never heard that in windows ha
[00:43] <leo-unglaub> sudo apt-get install gnome-sushi without any other ppa's
[00:43] <klslsl> mind u theyre all brain dead
[00:43] <tensorpudding> klslsl, device files are special files that abstract devices, etc is just a place where text files containing configuration are stored
[00:43] <klslsl> is there a good place to learn this on the net
[00:43] <leo-unglaub> newmar: and after this a nautilus -q to restart it
[00:43] <klslsl> for simpletons like me
[00:45] <DasEi1> klslsl: learn what ?
[00:45] <fugi123> Hey, I', in some dire need of install help
[00:45] <klslsl> all the lingo of linux
[00:45] <newmar> leo-unglaub, are you using gnome or unity
[00:45] <leo-unglaub> unity
[00:45] <klslsl> and simple bash commands
[00:45] <newmar> leo-unglaub, to me doesn t work
[00:45] <leo-unglaub> hmmm
[00:45] <leo-unglaub> newmar: well, i think you didn't miss anythink
[00:45] <DasEi1> klslsl: google is your friend, aka linux-filesystem, ubuntu-wiki, bash-commands ..
[00:46] <fugi123> I could use some install help if anybody has some sparetime
[00:46] <klslsl> whoever puts somehting together will be rich . it seems alot of newbies would like to learn but linux is populated with nerds who dont realise how much they know
[00:46] <klslsl> so theres a chasm in between. fill it an d make money
[00:47] <tensorpudding> klslsl, there's lots of tutorials on the shell though they tend to be oriented to teaching you the finer points of scripting and less basic admin commands
[00:47] <DasEi1> klslsl: web is full of it, and rich ? now retards with too much time and too weak brains ;)
[00:47] <tensorpudding> !language
[00:47] <usr13> klslsl: Linux is pretty well documented and it is pretty easily accessable once you realize it.
[00:48] <fugi123> Does anybody know what would cause the error "The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI1 (0,0,0) (sda) failed. "?
[00:48] <usr13> fugi123:  WHat do you need?
[00:48] <usr13> fugi123: Could be a bad HD.
[00:48] <klslsl> me im not logical at all. i would rather be tortured than try and complete a sudoku board. i learn by doing and feeling me. so not much hope anyway ha
[00:48] <tensorpudding> klslsl, there's the big old gnu manual for bash, it's kinda dry reading though http://www.gnu.org/s/bash/manual/bash.html
[00:49] <klslsl> there youve proved my point
[00:49] <klslsl> now sit down and write something  simple and sell it
[00:49] <overdub> klslsl: to solve sudoku, you do and feel with your brain
[00:49] <tensorpudding> there's tons of books on bash
[00:49] <klslsl> look me up i will be first in que give you a tenner :)
[00:49] <tensorpudding> they sell decently well
[00:49] <usr13> fugi123: You could tty to another console session and do some checking, but I'm thinking you probably have a defective hard drive.
[00:49] <tensorpudding> o'reilly has several
[00:49] <overdub> O'Rielly Learning the Bash Shell is a good one
[00:50] <klslsl> nething to defeat the evil windows
[00:50] <swooper> FOR PONY
[00:51] <fugi123> usr13: is there any good software to check the hard drive or should i just buy another?
[00:51] <klslsl> you have to help people who arent techies and broaden the appeal of linux
[00:51] <klslsl> really. i should be paid for my advice
[00:51] <usr13> klslsl: The learning curve is very steep.  You'll see.
[00:52] <luis__> fugi123: What is the make of the HDD?
[00:52] <usr13> fugi123: http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/  (It's what I use.)
[00:52] <klslsl> unless i just use a mac os emulator if there is one.... heard its the best os
[00:53] <fugi123> @luis: it
[00:53] <fugi123> it
[00:53] <newkid> hello?
[00:53] <usr13> fugi123: But you can do some cheking now.  Ctrl-Alt-F6  and try to format again and do a filesystem check
[00:53] <fugi123> it's a wetern digital, thankyou
[00:53] <msprout> hey folks. i have a plug computer (TonidoPlug), and am running into a brick wall about making a USB hard disk spin down at all. I've tried hdparm, sdparm, hd-idle, etc - nothing seems to work. Does anyone have any experience with this?
[00:53] <fugi123> When would i ctrl alt-f6?  from the live cd?
[00:53] <klslsl> now after discovering how to get nvidia driver onto computer the virtual terminal wont recognise my password. dear me. nuts
[00:54] <usr13> fugi123: Ctrl-Alt-F6 and issue command sudo fdisk -l
[00:54] <kn100`> I Have no sound on my acer aspire 3680
[00:54] <klslsl> off on my monumental task...i have a feeling its doomed to failiure...
[00:54] <xnxs> msprout, is your os on the drive?
[00:54] <kn100`> What can I do
[00:54] <msprout> xnxs: no sir. should it be?
[00:54] <usr13> fugi123: That will tell you what partitions are on it.
[00:54] <msprout> i believe it's loaded on the flash at the moment.
[00:54] <fugi123> okay i'll try that soon just need to boot back into the live CD
[00:54] <xnxs> msprout, well, if it was that would be the reason it wouldnt spin down.
[00:55] <msprout> Yeah, it's just some dude plugged in. It's not read/writing for a while, and it *still* won't spin down. I can't even seem to force it to do so.
[00:56] <newkid> can someone help me install 'gksudo' without the internet?
[00:56] <newkid> (please and thank you)
[00:56] <luis__> fugi123: WD has some great tools you can download for their HDD
[00:57] <fugi123> Luis_: are they run-able from a boot enviroment?  or do they require an OS?
[00:57] <KingPin> newkid,  how would you get the package without the interwebs or am i understanding the question wrong??
[00:57] <junglist> I have just upgraded to 11.10 and now I cant get past the login screen. Any Ideas?
[00:57] <yangaT> #android
[00:57] <luis__> fugi123 they are all run from a boot enviroment
[00:58] <bfrederi> when I try to do a startx during booting up, I get an error saying module "nv" does not exist.
[00:58] <newkid> Kingpin unfortunetly you have it just right. I'm trying to install a server on an old box of mine and can't connect to the internet, even with ethernet. one troubleshoot suggested 'gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/aliases to shut off iPv6
[00:58] <fugi123> Luis_: I"ll look for the WD software
[00:58] <boldfilter> Where are the user groups in 11.10. Cant find them.
[00:59] <newkid> but when I tried to run the command, I was told that 'gksudo' isn't installed
[00:59] <Fever> newkid: cant you use vi or vim?
[00:59] <tjiggi_fo> newkid, it should be installed by default. If you type: man gksudo into a terminal and get the output from man then it is installed
[01:00] <newkid> but"no manual entry for gksudo'
[01:00] <newkid> maybe that's my issue?
[01:00] <luis__> fugi123: I took a WD HDD that you could not load anything on adn did a low level format on and it ended up working just fine
[01:00] <tjiggi_fo> oops
[01:00] <newkid> (@ kingpin)
[01:00] <junglist> I have just upgraded to 11.10 and now I cant get past the login screen. The screen goes dark but x fails to load. I have tried multiple desktop environments. Please help.
[01:00] <newkid> orrr tjiggi*
[01:00] <fugi123> Luis_: Could you sugest some software to do so Luis?
[01:00] <newkid> and fever, I don't know what those are (newwww)
[01:00] <cmn__> junglist: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[01:01] <Piranah> Anyone else run into extreme network lag after upgrade to 11.10 ?
[01:01] <Fever> newkid: Vi and vim are terminal text-editors that should be installd by default in ubuntu server
[01:01] <Fever> newkid: try type vi or vim in the terminal
[01:01] <tjiggi_fo> newkid, can you use plain ol' sudo?
[01:02] <newkid> oooo ok that popped up a screen fever
[01:02] <newkid> and tjiggi_fo, tried it, got a 'no such command' type of error?
[01:02] <Zoogoo> does anyone know if there are decent enought drivefr for the sapphire ATI Radeon HD 6770 yet? with working 3D too.
[01:02] <Zoogoo> *driver
[01:03] <Fever> newkid: Nice, wait one sec. I will get a manual for vim or vi. Its alittle bit tricky to work with the first times
[01:03] <matt7879> Hey guys, is am I making this up or is there a beta .iso or something for Macs?
[01:03] <luis__> fugi123: try fdisk from a dod boot disk it should have a low level format program on it
[01:03] <attar> zoogoo : i am using the proprietary driver with that card now, no complaints so far
[01:04] <Daditos> hi, I think I screwed up the Unity's/Ubuntu's 11.10 tiling system... Wasn't it supposed to dock windows on the sides when dragged to a border?  How can I enable this?  I reset compiz configuration to default already
[01:04] <newkid> thank you fever. usually I'd say I can research it myself but I'm a little lost without a gui in a new ow :O
[01:04] <cmn__> matt7879, modern Macs are x86 so you should just be able to pop in the normal disc and press 'c'
[01:04] <cmn__> on boot
[01:04] <Fever> newkid: No probs, if you want you can try to use "nano" instead
[01:04] <Piranah> Anyone have a fix or ideas to help with the buggy networking in 11.10 ???
[01:05] <matt7879> well i tried that, and got an odd error
[01:05] <Newbeeans_> Channel: I went back to 10.4. How do I get my drivers for nvidia? Or do I ignore it since the display is working?
[01:05] <newkid> fever: "nano" instead of what? "gksudo"?
[01:05] <Fever> newkid: Its more easy yo use
[01:05] <matt7879> I just remember seeing a link somewhere a long time ago for a Mac-specific ubuntu distro
[01:05] <Fever> newkid: no, nano is another terminal text editor
[01:05] <lafon> has anyone used an hsfsoftmodem in oneiric?
[01:06] <newkid> fever: got it. so my goal is to run that same command in here?
[01:06] <cmn__> matt7879, there was once a PowerPC ubuntu but they killed it off a couple years ago
[01:06] <Fever> newkid: try: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/aliases
[01:06] <craigbass1976> I was in earlier today while I was at work and now I'm home with the busted box in a relaxed environment...  I can't log in.  When I do, I see a black screen for a split second, then I'm bounced back at the login screen.  A new user I just setup can log in fine.
[01:06] <darius> Hello can someone help me? I'm getting erros when trying to open Skype.
[01:06] <matt7879> oh got it. Thanks.
[01:06] <matt7879> man trying to get ubuntu installed on my MBP is a pain in the ass
[01:07] <craigbass1976> darius, microsoft bought skype; I noticed it getting screwy soon after...
[01:07] <matt7879> It's giving me this error when I try to boot from disk: "Unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[01:08] <newkid> fever: I'm already in this nano editor (just typed 'nano' and pressed enter). How do I exit nano so that I can enter that other command?
[01:08] <darius> craigbass1976, hmm that's weird, when I first downloaded it it worked great, but now everytime I try to open it I get binary file corrupt, please reinstall skype, and i did multiple times.
[01:08] <Piranah> newkid, ctrl x
[01:09] <Fever> newkid: If you look at the bottom of the terminal (program) there is a list of commands. ^ means hold down CTRL. So to save file, CTRL+w and to extit CTRL+x
[01:09] <craigbass1976> darius, are there ANY files left when you delete, like hidden directories in /home/yourname ?
[01:09] <newkid> thank you piranah and fever, working on that other command atm
[01:09] <Piranah> np :)
[01:10] <Fever> newkid: np :)
[01:10] <newkid> ok fever: so at the top I see 'File: /etc/modprobe.d/aliases' ... where should I be headed form here?
[01:10] <darius> craigbass1976 should I try and check that? If so what should I do? Go to home and press shift H and see if skype is there?
[01:10] <K4k> hi, after an unclean shutdown I can no longer load my desktop in 11.10. only indication of a problem is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log i see a line "power button: close" any ideas?
[01:11] <lafon> darius: how did you remove it?
[01:11] <Piranah> Think I may have to roll back to 11.04 im scouring the forums and not finding a light at the end of the tunnel in terms of the strange network lagg in 11.10. Im not on wifi so that rules out half the answers
[01:11] <Fever> Thats all for me tonight (german time), see you tomorrow
[01:11] <darius> lafon, apt-get remove skype
[01:11] <newkid> Thank you for your help fever!
[01:11] <craigbass1976> darius, I'm not sure.  ls -a in your home directory and that should show you something.  Maybe a .Skype ? That's what's in mine
[01:11] <Newbeeans_> Is there a way to kill frozen tasks?
[01:11] <Fever> newkid: No problem, good luck =)
[01:12] <craigbass1976> darius, I'm on lucid though, things may be different now
[01:12] <lafon> darius: try apt-get purge skype
[01:12] <craigbass1976> darius, yes, what lafon said.  I keep forgetting about that...
[01:13] <darius> lafon, craigbass1976, http://pastie.org/2753759
[01:13] <ultima> Somebody can help me? My problem is at startup (Xubuntu 11.04): I have 30-40 seconds black screen after grub and before the login screen.. because is this the strange thing, that after 40 seconds of black screen start the login screen and all works good!!!
[01:13] <craigbass1976> Anyone have any idea on my login issue?  I've googled for the errors I see in /var/log/auth.log, but nothing pops up that looks like an answer
[01:13] <liupei> hello
[01:13] <liupei> ?
[01:13] <liupei> ?
[01:14] <craigbass1976> type exit, then just sudo apt-get purge skype
[01:14] <DasEi1> hello, liupei
[01:14] <craigbass1976> darius, ^^
[01:14] <darius> okay
[01:14] <liupei> hello DasEil
[01:14] <newkid> So if gksudo isn't installed by default I have a corrupt installation, logical conclusion? I installed this on an old computer, so perhaps ubuntu is referencing the worng disc partition?
[01:14] <darius> craigbass1976, I get the same error
[01:14] <lafon> so , has anyone used a conexant modem in 11.10?
[01:15] <liupei> where you are?
[01:15] <DasEi1> lafon: no haven't, but pure modems for dialup can try sudo pppoeconfig
[01:15] <craigbass1976> meh?  you're not typing a # in front of the command are you?
[01:16] <darius> craigbass1976, http://pastie.org/2753765
[01:16] <bugaloo> hi... I have a dv2000 laptop running ubuntu 10.10 with a sound problem: when I plug my headphones, speakers doesn't mute. Still, if I put the volume only at the right speaker, it mutes the speakers and plays only at the right side of the headphone... it seems a module/support problem for my board... does anybody know how can I fix it?
[01:17] <lafon> DasEi1: ahh, ok I'll have to get a live disk and see if it works. dial-up is the only internet i have :/
[01:17] <craigbass1976> darius, I've never seen that error...  Perhaps the package isn't called skype, but Skype ?  Oh wait, did you even install it with apt?
[01:17] <DasEi1> lafon: give it a try
[01:17] <darius> craigbass1976 yes i installed it with apt-get install skype
[01:18] <lafon> craigbass1976: I installed skype via the .deb file from their site and purge worked fine
[01:18] <liupei> see you later
[01:19] <darius> im gonna restart my computer
[01:19] <Newbeeans_> Is there anyway to install Nvidia drivers for version 11.10?
[01:20] <Newbeeans_> ...before I upgrade & am unable to see a terminal
[01:23] <Piranah> last shout out to the chan for help, anyone have a fix for slow network performance in Ubunu 11.10
[01:23] <Piranah> All was fine in 11.04 and earlier
[01:23] <lafon> Piranah: via ethernet?
[01:23] <Piranah> lafon, yes ethernet
[01:23] <Newbeeans_> 11.10 is driving me crazy
[01:23] <Piranah> thats the odd part
[01:23] <akusharil> l
[01:24] <JetJagurXP> I have just setup a conky-launch.desktop file so I can autorun Conky when I login to Lubuntu 11.10.  It auto starts just fine, unfortunately it doesn't close when I log out.  Did I do it wrong?
[01:24] <lafon> Piranah: oh. sorry I know mostly dial-up and wireless :(
[01:25] <Piranah> lafon, its ok i suspect something to so with the nvidia drivers in 11.10 and network manager
[01:25] <Piranah> setup ran fast as heck on 11.04 and earlier
[01:25] <jmcantrell> is there anything that can position windows automatically based on rules?
[01:25] <lafon> actually speaking about fast setup wubi never works with 11.10 so is there an alternative?
[01:25] <Scunizi> Uninstall network manager an manually configure to see the difference
[01:25] <Newbeeans_> I am going to restart...probably wont work again bb
[01:26] <rickbee> Hello! This is the 3rd day of my inability to record videos using flash. :( I have installed flash in every single documented way that I have been able to find, I am a long time *nix user and pretty skilled, it just will not let me click the flash settings.. i can't click allow to give it access to my webcam. :| any ideas?
[01:26] <Piranah> bbiab thanks all for the help
[01:26] <Piranah> this chan rocks
[01:26] <Piranah> :)
[01:27] <dr_willis> jmcantrell:  devilspie, or theres some compiz plugins i recall.
[01:27] <dr_willis> rickbee:  theres been flash accessing webcam issues for ages...
[01:27] <gusnan> jmcantrell, as dr_willis said, try devilspie, or my project devilspie2
[01:27] <lucas-arg> gnome-shell i love so much...
[01:27] <rickbee> dr_willis: any ideas? where does flash store the excpetions or the 'always allow' 'list'?
[01:28] <jmcantrell> gusnan: diff between devilspie and devilspie2?
[01:28] <newkid> So if gksudo isn't installed by default I have a corrupt installation, logical conclusion? I installed this on an old computer, so perhaps ubuntu is referencing the worng disc partition?
[01:28] <dr_willis> rickbee:  if you cant click on the buttons in a flash window. thats an old issue thats also been around for ages. I seem to recall some work arounds.. like disablng compiz, or trying a shift-click, or  holding down the right/menu mouse button then trying to click
[01:29] <gusnan> jmcantrell, devilspie isn't very maintained, and devilspie2 is based on LUA instead of the regular expressions of devilspie.
[01:29] <darius> can anyone help me with this please? http://pastie.org/2753808 I get it everytime I do something in terminal
[01:29] <lafon> newkid: not sure. ive never been without some form of sudo
[01:29] <lafon> darius: try installing it again with "sudo apt-get install skype" and then "sudo apt-get purge skype"
[01:29] <JetJagurXP> I guess my question is:  What is the correct way to auto launch an app when I login to Lubuntu?
[01:29] <dr_willis> rickbee:  if flash is workng in other ways. its installed corectly. :)
[01:29] <newkid> lafon: normal sudo works, but gk does not :/
[01:30] <newkid> lafon: and allegedly it should be installed by default on the server distributuion of linux
[01:30] <dr_willis> JetJagurXP:  lubuntu/lxde uses openbox. and i think it can use the ~/.config/autostart/  directory
[01:30] <lafon> gksudo or gksu?
[01:30] <gusnan> jmcantrell, http://www.gusnan.se/devilspie2/
[01:30] <craigbass1976> dr_willis, you ever run into not being able to log into the gui, but terminal and ssh are fine?  I'm getting (and still searching the web for the terms) "Unregistered Authentication for session /org/freedesktop....." and another line that I thought was interesting containing "user ingroup nopasswdlogin".  I'm also looking through today's channel logs as I was in and pasted the exact errors then.  Box is not on a netowrk
[01:30] <craigbass1976> at the moment
[01:30] <darius> lafon http://pastie.org/2753813
[01:31] <dr_willis> craigbass1976:  not seen that issue.
[01:31] <JetJagurXP> dr_willis  I did that.  However, the application I started doesn't close when I log out.  I guess that is the expected behavior.  But I want it so shut down when I log out also...
[01:31] <jmcantrell> gusnan: needs a ppa
[01:31] <dr_willis> JetJagurXP:  cant say ive ever noticed the issue.. guess ig can depend on the app.
[01:32] <gusnan> jmcantrell, hmmm... yeah, I guess you are right... I am not using Ubuntu as my primary system however...
[01:32] <darius> dr_willis can you help me with this? http://pastie.org/2753813
[01:33] <K4k> i found another error in /var/log/auth.log, lightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user [myuser]" anyone care to lend a hand? i can't get past the login screen.
[01:33] <jmcantrell> gusnan: ah, i just assumed... given the channel
[01:33] <rickbee> omg i love gnome-shell
[01:33] <dr_willis> darius:  at least summarize the issue. most people wont go to every URL posted to read the actual problem...
[01:33] <rickbee> jesus, these devs are effing awesome.
[01:34] <Zoogoo> it's 02:33 here in england and i am gasping...
[01:34] <dr_willis> rickbee:  been having gnome-shell lock up on me when i try typing in anything to 'search' for an app today..
[01:34] <rickbee> dr_willis: Guess what, it fixed my issue with flash!
[01:34] <rickbee> Switching to Gnome as my session type fixed it.
[01:35] <darius> dr_willis, I have an issue everytime I try installing something, it says either error merging package or it says 6%...
[01:35] <gusnan> jmcantrell, I am however working on getting it into Debian - This means you will get it into Ubuntu too.
[01:35] <darius> dr_willis, using the apt-get install command
[01:35] <p4n> When pressing the power button to boot up my machine, sometimes it boots up, and sometimes it doesn't. It's that simple. The only details I can give is that sometimes it goes to the boot screen (and sometimes it doesn't). Any clues as to what I could do?
[01:35] <dr_willis> rickbee:  its likely it was compiz somehow interfearring withn your ability to click on buttons in flash window./.  that was an issue ages ago...
[01:36] <dr_willis> p4n:  the boot screen of Ubuntu? or the BIOS/Post boot screen? or the Login screeen?
[01:36] <p4n> Boot screen of Ubuntu, then goes to black. Signal/notification/power light still stays on my machine as if it's on and doing something, though. But the screen stays black.
[01:36] <dr_willis> If its not posting/showing the bios scrren - then you got some hardware issues.. I have a similer old pc thats a little flakey.
[01:36] <JetJagurXP> dr_willis  Should I add a line to my bash_logout file to close it if it's open?
[01:37] <dr_willis> JetJagurXP:  you could try.
[01:37] <jmcantrell> does anyone use the compiz grid plugin?
[01:37] <computer_> Thanks all for all the work, just received an very interesting update the other day for 11.10 labeled something like 'alsa-plugin-somthing' and now my internal mic on my laptop sounds just as good as any Mac or Windows internal mic I have ever heard.
[01:37] <p4n> It goes past the BIOS screen and then it either goes straight to black and nothing, OR it shows the Ubuntu boot screen for a few seconds then goes to black. If I'm lucky, like right now, it boots all the day.
[01:37] <p4n> way*
[01:37] <dr_willis> JetJagurXP:  ive never seen an app manage to stay around after i log out of X. :)  unless i spawn it to the background..
[01:37] <p4n> It fails about 25% of the time.
[01:38] <dr_willis> p4n:  remove the quiet/splash option in /etc/default/grub  (replace quiet splash, with noquiet nosplash nofb)    so you can see all the error messages.. it Might give a clue when it next fails to boot up.
[01:38] <dr_willis> p4n:  it sounds more like a hardware issue then anything else to me.
[01:39] <JetJagurXP> dr_willis  I am launching it with the command conky -c /home/<username>/.conky/conkyrc
[01:39] <computer_> Was just curious if anyone knew what the road map for GIMP might be? As I see that it's integration with Unity to be ugly to use.
[01:39] <dr_willis> JetJagurXP:  ive never had conky prevent me from logging out.. what is it doing exactly?
[01:39] <dr_willis> JetJagurXP:  'conky  -yadda yadda &'   perhaps..
[01:40] <JetJagurXP> dr_willis  Oh I can log out.  But conky continues to run.  Shows up on the Login screen.
[01:40] <hux_> How do I top up a vodafone mobile donge (K3770) as they don't support Linux yet
[01:40] <dr_willis> JetJagurXP:  now thats an interesting bug.... never seen that befor.
[01:40] <JetJagurXP> dr_willis  If I login again conky launches a second time.
[01:40] <p4n> dr_willis: it says I don't have permission to save the file.
[01:40] <dr_willis> JetJagurXP:  check the askubuntu.com site and the forums perhaps...  you could do a 'killall conky'  in your logout file i guess.
[01:41] <dr_willis> p4n:  its a system file.. so of course. you need to use root/sudo access to it.
[01:41] <computer_> Of course I will ask in #gimp
[01:41] <dr_willis> p4n:  then you rerun 'sudo update-grub' to apply the changes
[01:41] <JetJagurXP> dr_willis  Is is because I'm launching it using a .desktop file in HOME/.config/autostart  ?
[01:41] <dr_willis> p4n:  is this a laptop or a desktop machine?
[01:41] <dr_willis> JetJagurXP:  shouldent matter.
[01:42] <p4n> dr_willis: laptop. I might need more specific instructions than that.
[01:42] <beginner> is there something like apt-get update to update to the latest spidermonkey ?
[01:42] <dr_willis> JetJagurXP:  conky is very popular. id bet if this is a common issue. theres mention of it on the forums, askubuntu.com and the conky forums.
[01:43] <dr_willis> Im off to work.. chat at ya laters.
[01:43] <yagoo> beginner, apt-get update, apt-get install spidermonkey .. if there's a later version of spidermonkey, it'll be upgraded
[01:43] <beginner> thank you
[01:44] <yagoo> beginner, that is if there's a package name by the name of "spidermonkey" to begin with.
[01:44] <hexacode> wat does -r do in wget -r http://* ?
[01:44] <JetJagurXP> dr_willis  Thanks.  At least I know I didn't so something goofy.
[01:44] <beginner> thank you yagoo
[01:45] <usr13> beginner: apt-cache search spidermonkey
[01:45] <cmn`> yagoo: $ apt-cache search spidermonkey says: libmozjs185-1.0 - Spidermonkey javascript engine
[01:45] <cmn`> lol
[01:45] <yagoo> hexacode, never heard of a manpage before? (man wget)
[01:45] <yagoo> man!
[01:46] <usr13> yagoo: man thats' cool!
[01:46] <Newbeeans> What is the command to check my Ubuntu version? I don't want to update to 11.10 by mistake.
[01:46] <yagoo> man man << you do that.
[01:46] <usr13> Newbeeans: lsb_release -a
[01:46] <beginner> thanks
[01:46] <aef> hey, how would I achieve bass redirection on a SB X-Fi Titanium on Ubuntu 11.10? on Windows its a checkbox in the driver tools
[01:47] <yagoo> aef, well this isn't windows..
[01:47] <yagoo> aef, and you do things differently..
[01:47] <aef> yagoo: yeah i know, that's why i ask
[01:47] <Blue1> Newbeeans: cat /etc/issue
[01:47] <aef> yagoo: do you have an idea how to do it?
[01:47] <yagoo> aef, you really think it helps to tell us that you click a "checkbox" on windows? pfff.. smarten up here..
[01:47] <yagoo> lol
[01:47] <aef> yagoo: fuck you.
[01:48] <yagoo> aef, i was going to help you.
[01:48] <yagoo> now i wont.
[01:48] <usr13> aef: YOu think that is helpful?
[01:48] <Newbeeans> I thought root was su -i
[01:48] <Newbeeans> How do I get to root ?
[01:48] <yagoo> Newbeeans, -i ?--- i simply use su - or su -l
[01:48] <usr13> Newbeeans: YOu are correct.
[01:48] <yagoo> Newbeeans, what for?
[01:49] <usr13> Newbeeans: sudo -i
[01:49] <yagoo> Newbeeans, (for nvidia yeah.. u need root)
[01:49] <Blue1> Newbeeans: why do you need root?  use sudo
[01:49] <tony_> hello all
[01:49] <Newbeeans> I just want those drivers! :)) haha
[01:49] <aef> i told you about the checkbox because i think its a hardware feature controlled through the proprietary driver tools and not something in an abstracted api available for all sound devices
[01:49] <tony_> I have a question about the "history" feature in bash
[01:49] <usr13> Newbeeans: But as others are letting you know, it's best to just use sudo.
[01:49] <Newbeeans> usr13: ok
[01:50] <Blue1> tony_: ask your question.
[01:50] <tony_> I typed "history" into the terminal and I see alot of things that I didn't type
[01:50] <tony_> have I been hacked?
[01:50] <usr13> aef: Just ask questions.  The other stuff is not helpful.
[01:50] <Blue1> tony_: what happens if you hit an up arrow?
[01:50] <yagoo> tony_, maybe someone else is using ur computer in the house?
[01:51] <yagoo> tony_, very unlikely..
[01:51] <Newbeeans> After 10.4, What is my next upgrade? The manager is not listing them.
[01:51] <tony_> it scrolls through typed in commands....  there are things like "sudo chmod 700 adoopy"
[01:51] <tony_> wth is that?
[01:51] <craigbass1976> !log
[01:51] <yagoo> tony_, i mean very unlikely ur machine is hacked unless you install somebody's crazy unknown script from the net
[01:51] <aef> usr13: i did exactly this
[01:51] <Blue1> Newbeeans: i plan to stay on 10.04 for awhile longer -- I am migrating everything over to debian
[01:51] <usr13> aef: You did what?
[01:51] <tony_> ok...so I'm being paranoid
[01:51] <Newbeeans> Blue1: I wish I knew what a debian was :)
[01:51] <aef> usr13: asking a quesion
[01:52] <yagoo> tony_, maybe.. are all your repositories official?
[01:52] <Blue1> Newbeeans: debian is ubuntu's dad
[01:52] <tony_> I get everything from the software center or offical ppa's
[01:52] <tony_> from ubuntu's site
[01:52] <Newbeeans> Blue1: Maybe I should stay put until I understand more of this OS.
[01:52] <yagoo> Blue1, debian is ubuntu's dad.. but ubuntu is trying very hard to be an orphan..
[01:52] <Blue1> Newbeeans: yes.
[01:53] <Blue1> yagoo: well said
[01:53] <tony_> is it ok to paste some of the stuff I found in there?  or not cool?
[01:53] <yagoo> tony_, not cool
[01:53] <yagoo> !paste
[01:53] <tony_> ok... then I won't
[01:53] <yagoo> tony_, i mean not cool to do that..(use pastebin sites)
[01:53] <yagoo> tony_, 1 line or 2 is ok
[01:53] <usr13> aef: We are not here to argue semantics or for philosophical discussions, so just drop it.
[01:53] <tony_> ok
[01:54] <yagoo> usr13, he wants people to look at his windows "checkbox" driver.. Like we have to know about it.
[01:54] <usr13> yagoo: drop it
[01:54] <aef> usr13: my opinion from the beginning, so do you know about a solution?
[01:54] <tony_> 90  sudo chmod 700 /Desktop/adoopy
[01:54] <tony_>    91  cd /Desktop
[01:55] <tony_> I never go by the name adoopy and my gf is a totall linux noob
[01:55] <Newbeeans> How do I turn off permission requests for Ubuntu Software center?
[01:55] <craigbass1976> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560241  I've got this same problem, but my .profile looks exactly like another one from a "good" profile on the same box
[01:55] <yagoo> tony_, ?
[01:55] <yagoo> tony_, someone is typing "cd /Desktop" << this path doesn't even exist.
[01:55] <craigbass1976> tony_, sure.  ;) ;)
[01:55] <yagoo> tony_, you sure you didn't type this, or is one of your own scripts?
[01:55] <yagoo> lol
[01:56] <tony_> I am just weirded out by the name adoopy in there and someone trying to sudo chmod.....
[01:56] <yagoo> tony_, that's you.
[01:56] <cmn`> aef, I don't think there is one. this might put you on the right track though: http://confignewton.com/?p=211
[01:56]  * yagoo thinks tony wants a pacifier and a crib
[01:56] <yagoo> lol
[01:56] <tony_> adoopy is me?  I never went by that name....oh...lol
[01:56] <yagoo> tony, that's bs... /Desktop doesn't even exist.
[01:56] <tony_> like I said....  strange
[01:56] <yagoo> yeah yeah yeah tony.. yeah yeah yeah
[01:57] <yagoo> tony_, #goreadabook
[01:57] <aef> cmn`: i know i had it working around 2009 with a SB Live.
[01:57] <cmn`> aef, I don't have an X-fi so I can't really help more than that, sorry. ^^;
[01:57] <aef> cmn`: thanks
[01:57] <tony_> ok... you all have a good night
[01:58] <meowsus> I use gedit for my web development, and rely on a lot of plugins that aren't supported by Oneirics installation of Gedit3. Is there a way to run Gedit3 AND Gedit2 on the same system, or to replace Gedit3 with Gedit2?
[01:58] <yagoo> nice try dumb tony_
[01:59] <gdea73> hi I'm having problems with Suspend
[01:59] <gdea73> it sleeps once, and wakes up once, but after that it wakes up immediately.
[02:00] <gdea73> according to my dmesg command it's my SATA controller. So ... ?
[02:00] <hux_> How do I top up a vodafone mobile dongle ? (K3770) as they don't support Linux yet and my cell is Orange
[02:00] <gdea73> how do I troubleshoot this?
[02:00] <usr13> meowsus: You use gedit to edit html code?  Are there plugins that aid it?
[02:00] <yagoo> gdea73, suspend/powersaving doesn't always work.. this is one area any linux is still miserably horrible at (and any linux distro)
[02:00] <rahul> hi
[02:01] <rahul> need some help
[02:01] <rahul> i am using Dell R15
[02:01] <yagoo> rahul, wha'ts the magic word? you have any manners?
[02:01] <gdea73> yagoo: that's frustrating... especially for people using laptops. My laptop couldn't run Ubuntu anyway, but still
[02:01] <gdea73> anyway so there's nothing I can do?
[02:02] <yagoo> gdea73, you sure sound like a dictator.
[02:02] <yagoo> gdea73, can you ask nicely to the channel?
[02:02] <attar> !ops
[02:02] <rahul> n sound card and touch pad doen't seems to work
[02:02] <meowsus> usr13, with gnome2 you can find "gmate" on git that has a ton of textmate esque plugins
[02:02] <yagoo> rahul, u say please help.
[02:02] <attar> yagoo, youre rude and extremely unhelpful, youre one to talk of manners
[02:02] <meowsus> and yes, i know i should be using VIM
[02:02] <BlackWeb> Just curious how do you specify the display driver to use, would you do it in grub.cfg in the bootloader, Driver I want to use is "xserver=xorg-video-intel"
[02:02] <gdea73> hehe, sorry, might you please have any other suggestions?
[02:02] <yagoo> attar, I'm saying what's the magic word. I'm telling to say please.
[02:02] <meowsus> usr13, I've gotten quite used to it actually ;)
[02:02] <yagoo> gdea73, just ask the question.
[02:03] <enix316> sometimes when i use a command like 'ls' or search in aptitude i get multiple pages of results. Is there an option to make it so that i have to press spacebar or another key to continue to the next page of results? Also, can anyone recomend a good shell web browser?
[02:03] <BlackWeb> Which its already installed but for some reason cant enable desktop effects
[02:03] <yagoo> gdea73, touchpad needs X config options.. u can post the x log
[02:03] <zykotick9_> enix316, "ls | less" or the old way "ls | more"
[02:03]  * yagoo ignores attar
[02:03] <gdea73> yagoo, touchpad? Sorry if I was unclear, I'm talking about my desktop.
[02:03] <usr13> aef: Sorry, all I use is alsamixer. Don't do a lot of fancy stuff to audio output
[02:03] <gdea73> didn't mean to get off on a tangent before.
[02:03] <yagoo> "<rahul> n sound card and touch pad doen't seems to work"
[02:03] <yagoo> ^ touchpad
[02:04] <yagoo> eh
[02:04] <gdea73> oh, soryr, you attached my name to that.
[02:04] <Gskellig> is it just me, or does the new "system settings" UI look a LOT like the OSX one
[02:04] <yagoo> oh sorry..
[02:04] <yagoo> rahul.. that was for u
[02:04] <rahul> yes
[02:04] <gdea73> it's fine
[02:04] <hux_> Does anyone know if #linuxmint is still on irc.spotchat.org as I get a dead link from Mint Servers via spotchat
[02:04] <rahul> 'm new to Ubunto n that too linux environment
[02:05] <enix316> zykotick9, thanks, just what i was looking for.
[02:05] <rahul> will you help me to get that x config option
[02:05] <d0gbert> So I realize that this is not a perl channel, but I'm sure that some of you brilliant people know perl...
[02:05] <usr13> meowsus: I've probably used vim more than antying else, but CMS does the most for me nowdays
[02:05] <zykotick9_> !tab > enix316
[02:05] <shantorn_> hux #linuxmint and then - something is needed, like -help -chat
[02:05] <Newbeeans> I used the upgrade command so I could get 10.10 then to 11.4 (I like the sidebar). The command stated no upgrades found. Any ideas?
[02:05] <meowsus> usr13, cms! I'm intrigued
[02:05] <yagoo> rahul, see what the xlog says-> apt-get install pastebinit; cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |pastebinit -t myxlog
[02:05] <usr13> meowsus: I've also used bluefish
[02:06] <hux_> I know shanton but -help,-chatetc are all dead
[02:06] <meowsus> I've used bluefish, it drives me nuts
[02:06] <usr13> meowsus: Oh yea, cms is the wave of the future
[02:06] <d0gbert> I'm trying to debug a perl script and am getting the following... Code is:  "my @any_port = @{$attacks[0]};" and I am getting an arror that reads Can't use an undefined value as an ARRAY reference.  Can someone tell me how to fix this?
[02:06] <meowsus> When i was a windows user i used e Text Editor
[02:06] <meowsus> which was modeled after TextMate for OSX
[02:06] <d0gbert> Anyone?
[02:06] <diamonds_> Yellow
[02:06] <enix316> zykotick9_: i just read that too from the irssi man pages, thx for the reminder
[02:06] <denis_> u doing?
[02:06] <meowsus> and Gedit can be fluffed with to be close to both of them
[02:06] <zykotick9_> enix316, :) glad to help
[02:06] <meowsus> What is CMS?
[02:06] <usr13> meowsus: This is OT, we should go to #ubuntu-offtopic   or pm
[02:07] <usr13> busy channel here...
[02:07] <gdea73> yagoo, [  678.590108] ata9: failed to stop engine (-5)
[02:07] <gdea73> [  678.590121] ata9: exception Emask 0x52 SAct 0x0 SErr 0xffffffff action 0xe frozen t4
[02:07] <gdea73> [  678.590124] ata9: SError: { RecovData RecovComm UnrecovData Persist Proto HostInt PHYRdyChg PHYInt CommWake 10B8B Dispar BadCRC Handshk LinkSeq TrStaTrns UnrecFIS DevExch }
[02:07] <gdea73> [  678.590129] ata9: hard resetting link
[02:07] <gdea73> [  680.160048] ata9: failed to resume link (SControl FFFFFFFF)
[02:07] <FloodBot1> gdea73: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:07] <yagoo> gdea73, DONT DO THAT
[02:07] <yagoo> gdea73, use pastebin
[02:07] <shantorn_> hux have you asked a question or offered a greatting in chat?
[02:07] <rahul> didn't work for me
[02:07] <d0gbert> someone anyone help?
[02:07] <gdea73> Here is the log, with the failed suspend... any suggestions please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/718436/
[02:08] <BlackWeb> How do you specify a display driver to use
[02:08] <enix316> zykotick9_: you have been over several days now. glad u are here
[02:08] <yagoo> gdea73, it's actually pretty complex to fix suspend/powersaving.. it takes x number commands to find out what's wrong..
[02:08] <yagoo> gdea73, and u have to check the bios, the kernbootline... see if theres any irq conflicts.. it's a real pita
[02:08] <gdea73> oh
[02:08] <Gskellig> what is the best way to have a command auto run on boot (not as root)
[02:09] <gdea73> bummer. and this has been driving me crazy for a while too, but ah well
[02:09] <yagoo> gdea73, yeah.. best is to see if google "ubuntu wiki" + other keywords can help solve the problem..
[02:09] <yagoo> gdea73, as i said it's real pita..
[02:09] <gdea73> yeah :/
[02:09] <yagoo> gdea73, i have 2 systems and I cant do sleep properly with them..
[02:10] <zykotick9_> BlackWeb, typically you would use an xorg.conf file - but it's automatic (for intel, these days).  Do you know what driver is currently being used?  "less /var/log/Xorg.0.log" to check.
[02:10] <gdea73> ah
[02:10] <yagoo> gdea73, as i said (it doesnt matter what distro).. linux still sux in this arena
[02:10] <_jesse_> hmm
[02:10] <gdea73> that's too bad. anyway, so no idea what error "-5" means with an ide controller?
[02:10] <gdea73> actually I was repeatedly trying to suspend about a week ago
[02:11] <yagoo> gdea73, the older hardware.. sleep wasnt very much implemented..
[02:11] <craigbass1976> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1560241  I've got this same problem, but my .profile looks exactly like another one from a "good" profile on the same box
[02:11] <yagoo> gdea73, notably pre-usb stuff
[02:11] <gdea73> ah ok
[02:11] <gdea73> just interesting that Windows 95C on a Pentium II suspends juust fine ;P
[02:11] <Newbeeans> How do I upgrade to 10.10 ?
[02:11] <gdea73> (or on mine at least)
[02:11] <yagoo> gdea73, and ide is pretty much very old.. you have usb?
[02:11] <yagoo> gdea73, oh pentium 2..
[02:11] <gdea73> oh, no this is newer hardware
[02:12] <yagoo> gdea73, dont worry about getting sleep working properly on that..
[02:12] <BlackWeb> zykotick9, Heres the problem Installed 10.10 worked fine with desktop effects, then installed packages and now desktopeffects cant be enabled
[02:12] <gdea73> not old hardware, I'm just getting distracted... the P2 is completely separate.
[02:12] <BlackWeb> the hardware is intel
[02:12] <gdea73> my current PC actually has SATA, but it's in "IDE Mode" (not AHCI)
[02:12] <BlackWeb> which the intel driver is install "xserver-xorg-video-intel
[02:12] <gdea73> I just keep the Pentium II for fun, that's in the basement :P
[02:13] <BlackWeb> how would i make it use the intel driver again, or the default one it was using
[02:13] <gdea73> actually this is sort of odd, in the log, it says says "pci_legacy_suspend(): ahci_pci_device_suspend ..."
[02:13] <yagoo> gdea73, you using ahci?
[02:13] <gdea73> I was originally but now anymore. Did that affect things if I installed using AHCI and switched in BIOS later?
[02:14] <gdea73> anyway it's just odd, because this is not PCI, it's not legacy, and AHCI is off...
[02:14] <zykotick9_> BlackWeb, "...then installed packages..." sounds suspicious ;)  Do you currently have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
[02:14] <yagoo> gdea73, these are very hardcore stuff...
[02:14] <HansLanda> can anyone help me configure my wlan without ndiswrapper? ubuntu 11.04 - dell notebook
[02:14] <gdea73> also - is there an actual speed advantage to AHCI? I couldn't tell, but I'm not sure.
[02:14] <zykotick9_> !tab > BlackWeb
[02:15] <Newbeeans> How do I update to 10.10? Updater is not showing the upgrades.
[02:15] <yagoo> gdea73, u can interchange ahci to something else without data damage.. as for affecting sleep in linux i have noclue..
[02:15] <R3db3ard> Newbeeans, go to software sources and select the tickbox that gives you every update
[02:15] <zykotick9_> Newbeeans, by default LTS will only update to another LTS release (there is a way to change it, but I've never done it)
[02:15] <craigbass1976> HansLanda, what have you got for a card?  What you done so far?  I make no promises...  I haven't had to monkey with a card since before dapper
[02:15] <yagoo> gdea73, it's possible a config in linux has something set to ahci. But i have no clue to that.. (probably #kernel may know)
[02:15] <gdea73> yagoo, ok. I just was unsure if something was "configured" for AHCI when I installed. Like if ahci was on when I installed, it might mess things up by turning it off later...
[02:15] <BlackWeb> No dont have a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11
[02:16] <gdea73> yeah that may be..
[02:16] <gdea73> oh well I guess I give up then, for now :P
[02:16] <yagoo> gdea73, a reason why u have ahci switched back off?
[02:16] <zykotick9_> BlackWeb, sorry I have no suggestions then, good luck.
[02:16] <tigranes> Hi! Can anyone help me figure out why Unity 3D is not working on my Intel 4500 video card?
[02:16] <Blue1> BlackWeb: this may/may not help:  http://pkill-9.com/ubuntu-etcx11xorg-conf-livecd-fixes-debian-video-problems/
[02:16] <Newbeeans> R3db3ard: Where do I select other sources?
[02:16] <gdea73> well actually because I thought it would suspend without AHCI lol
[02:16] <gdea73> no other reason in particular
[02:16] <gdea73> I remember getting an AHCI error on resume, before.
[02:17] <yagoo> gdea73, you are?
[02:17] <gdea73> it was only on screen for like a fraction of a second though
[02:17] <gdea73> I *was*, when AHCI was on.
[02:17] <yagoo> gdea73, is ahci module loaded ?
[02:17] <gdea73> I don't think so, maybe..
[02:17] <yagoo> gdea73, turn bios back to ahci.. reboot then see if ahci module is loaded (or shown in dmesg)
[02:17] <gdea73> well I have dmesg right here for now
[02:17] <gdea73> and it already does show up :S
[02:18] <yagoo> gdea73, u need to set it to ahci in bios
[02:18] <gdea73> well I thought i saw it, one second..
[02:18] <R3db3ard> Newbeeans, system > administration > software sources > updates
[02:19] <gdea73> yeah "ahci 000:04:00.0: restoring config space at offset 0x6 (was 0x1, writing 0x0) several like this <0
[02:19] <gdea73> * <-
[02:19] <yagoo> gdea73, did u try fsck ?
[02:19] <R3db3ard> Newbeeans, on the updates tab there is a Release upgrade dropdown box
[02:19] <R3db3ard> Newbeeans, change it to normal releases
[02:19] <gdea73> I have not yet. I will.
[02:20] <yagoo> gdea73, reboot, turn ahci on, then use something like gpartedlivecd to do an fsck (can rt-click on partition and choose check filesystem)
[02:20] <diamonds> hi friends
[02:20] <diamonds> just updated ubuntu....
[02:20] <gdea73> okay
[02:20] <R3db3ard> then in console type 'sudo apt-get update' then sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:20] <diamonds> and me mouse pad stopped workin'
[02:20] <gdea73> actually I have a short story to tell, in relation to this
[02:20] <diamonds> shiver me timbers
[02:20] <gdea73> I was repeatedly trying to suspend.. the next morning, it suspended once, as usual
[02:20] <diamonds> can anyone recommend a path to fixing this?
[02:20] <craigbass1976> Is there something that would lock me out of gdm if I had too many failed logins?
[02:20] <gdea73> I went to eat breakfast and I came back, and tried to wake it up
[02:21] <gdea73> and there was a loud clunk, followed by loud, sporatic clicking
[02:21] <Newbeeans> R3db3ard xcelent!
[02:21] <yagoo> gdea73, maybe it was trying to use ahci
[02:21] <gdea73> and I reset the machine and then the AHCI BIOS (this was back when I had AHCI), said "no devices found"
[02:21] <R3db3ard> Newbeeans, glad to help :)
[02:21] <diamonds> is there some... switch I might need to flip?
[02:21] <diamonds> sudo /etc/mousepad start?
[02:21] <gdea73> I kind of flipped out then, I thought the HDD died. But that afternoon, it was fine o.O
[02:21] <yagoo> gdea73, then try loading the module
[02:21] <gdea73> (after toggling ahci)
[02:21] <zykotick9_> gdea73, sounds like you are describing a dead or dieing hard drive
[02:22] <gdea73> zykotick9_ I HONESTLY hope not.
[02:22] <diamonds> anyone else had mousepad trouble on Dell inspiron with 10.10?
[02:22] <yagoo> gdea73, doesnt have to be a dying hdrive
[02:22] <gdea73> there are no signs of failure as far as smart attributes.
[02:22] <yagoo> gdea73, it isnt
[02:22] <gdea73> oh ok :P
[02:22] <gdea73> it's a one year old 1TB drive, and I've only partitioned 128GB, the rest is unallocated.
[02:23] <gdea73> anyway I will get to all that later I guess... (fsck, livecd, etc)
[02:23] <gdea73> this is still sort of gnawing at me but if it's giong to cause me to procrastinate more, on other things, I should wait
[02:23] <gdea73> thanks for the help
[02:23] <gdea73> @yagoo
[02:23] <javier__> I have detected there are bad sectors on my hard drive. I backed up my files, but I want to try to repair them. is there a program that does it? thanks!
[02:23] <gdea73> alright bye for now.
[02:24] <yagoo> gdea73, i think i should reportbug what i had 2 weeks ago. I had end-request I/O error on one of my new AHCI drives.  Did a full test inside out with manufacturing tool. And a sector test that lasted 6 hours.  Completely clean.  It was a malinforming tty message.
[02:24] <xtjacob> does anyone here have experience with parsing json in c?
[02:24] <yagoo> xt3mp0r, wrong channel.. you'd have to ask #c
[02:25] <xtjacob> thanks
[02:25] <yagoo> xtjacob, i mean.. and i dont' think its impossible..
[02:25] <xtjacob> it's telling me #c in invite only
[02:26] <yagoo> xtjacob, your nick is registered with nickserv?
[02:26] <xtjacob> it was sometime ago, but it isn't anymore
[02:26] <yagoo> xtjacob, so register it.. /msg Nickserv help
[02:27] <yagoo> xtjacob, if u still need help on this-> #freenode
[02:27] <diamonds> ok I'm trying the system test program
[02:27] <diamonds> but without a mouse I can't move the scrollbar down, so I can't see what's below the fold :/
[02:27] <diamonds> that's not so good
[02:28] <yagoo> diamonds, this a serial mouse?
[02:28] <diamonds> yagoo: this is my built in mousepad
[02:28] <HansLanda> hello there
[02:28] <diamonds> worked on... 10.4
[02:28] <HansLanda> can anyone help me configure my wlan without ndiswrapper? ubuntu 11.04 - dell notebook (private msg please)
[02:28] <yagoo> diamonds, what model is the mouse?
[02:28] <x3qt0r> I need to able to play mp3 files on a computer without internet connection
[02:28] <javier__> I have detected there are bad sectors on my hard drive. I backed up my files, but I want to try to repair them. is there a program that does it? thanks!
[02:28] <x3qt0r> How do I get those necessary packages
[02:28] <diamonds> yagoo: not sure how to tell...
[02:29] <yagoo> HansLanda, check online that "that" driver works for your hardware. Not everything can replace ndiswrapper if the linux driver isnt updated to support it
[02:29] <xtjacob> yagoo, thanks that worked
[02:29] <yagoo> xtjacob, np
[02:29] <yagoo> diamonds, this a laptop?
[02:29] <diamonds> http://paste.ubuntu.com/718446
[02:29] <diamonds> yagoo yes
[02:29] <diamonds> ^ the output of modprobe --list | grep mouse
[02:29] <boldfilter> How do you edit user groups in 11.10?
[02:30] <yagoo> diamonds, um.. well what laptop model?
[02:30] <diamonds> e1505
[02:30] <diamonds> dell
[02:30] <diamonds> sorry, I mentioned it before I wasn't sure if you'd seen
[02:30] <yagoo> and by mouse.. do you really mean touchpad or controlpoint?
[02:30] <diamonds> touchpad
[02:30] <x3qt0r> anyone?
[02:31] <x3qt0r> I need to able to play mp3 files on a computer without internet connection
[02:31] <x3qt0r> How do I get those necessary packages
[02:31] <diamonds> x3qt0r: have you seen the mediubuntu stuff?
[02:31] <diamonds> x3qt0r: I think that'll do it
[02:31] <x3qt0r> Link/
[02:31] <x3qt0r> ?
[02:32] <diamonds> x3qt0r: I can't control my cursor, can you look it up yourself?
[02:32] <x3qt0r> I did
[02:32] <diamonds> http://www.medibuntu.org/
[02:32] <diamonds> yagoo: can you recommend somewhere to start looking?
[02:33] <diamonds> man -k touchpad returns a listing for synaptics
[02:33] <diamonds> i guess I'll start there :)
[02:33] <x3qt0r> So I should be downloading each one of these
[02:33] <diamonds> x3qt0r: have you tried... reading the site?
[02:34] <Guest33288> has anyone ever set a static ip on a wireless interface?
[02:34] <Guest33288> on ubuntu server?
[02:34] <yagoo> diamonds, well ..
[02:34] <yagoo> diamonds, it's abuilt-in..
[02:34] <diamonds> yes
[02:34] <yagoo> diamonds, anything show with lspci? (lscpi -nn|less)
[02:34] <diamonds> what am I looking for?
[02:35] <yagoo> diamonds, anything that says trackpad or touchpad
[02:35] <cococnutz> hey where i can ask about windows 7 ftp server ?
[02:35] <diamonds> no but i can bin it
[02:35] <yagoo> diamonds, it may be called something else.. so u can pastebinit
[02:35] <yagoo> diamonds, apt-get install pastebinit; lscpi -nn | pastebinit -t xxx
[02:35] <diamonds> http://paste.ubuntu.com/718450
[02:36] <diamonds> how do I pipe to my local clipboard?
[02:36] <Guest33288> I need help setting a static ip with a wireless interface connecting to a WPA network. It works fine using dhcp but not on static for some reason
[02:36] <ldz420> I want to check if I have a shared library on my system. when I try to use find / -type f -name filename of library the only place that is shows up is /usr/share/lintian can anyone give me a clue?
[02:36] <diamonds> so I can | pastebinit | cb #then paste in channel
[02:36] <x3qt0r> diamonds,  I dont find any instructions on how to install these packages on a computer with not internet
[02:37] <diamonds> x3qt0r: oh you don't have internet on the computer at all
[02:37] <diamonds> like, not just when you want to play mp3s, but ever
[02:37] <x3qt0r> Amen.
[02:37] <x3qt0r> I want to download these packages and take them to that handicap computer
[02:37] <x3qt0r> so that I can play those mp3s
[02:38] <yagoo> diamonds, what about dmesg ? (dmesg |pastebinit -t xxx)
[02:38] <diamonds> x3qt0r: huh... I don't know w/o internet
[02:38] <diamonds> what's the -t xxx?
[02:38] <jobalcaen> I need help setting a static ip with a wireless interface connecting to a WPA network. It works fine using dhcp but not on static for some reason
[02:38] <gdea73> hi all, I have a new question now... please help...
[02:38] <yagoo> diamonds, -t is just for title.. if u want to give it a title name
[02:38] <diamonds> ahh
[02:38] <gdea73> my HDMI is not working anymore. After rearranging this room...
[02:38] <jobalcaen> what is your questionj gdea73?
[02:39] <gdea73> I've double checked the cable, but the PC and the TV both show no sign of having it plugged in :(
[02:39] <ldz420> x3qt0r: you will have to transfer the files onto machine. but I believe that you can refer to your local machine as a repository
[02:39] <gdea73> do HDMI cables die, often?
[02:39] <diamonds> http://paste.ubuntu.com/718451 < yagoo
[02:39] <_jesse_> x3qt0r: you can download packages using apt-get on a internet-connected computer and use dpkg to install them on the other
[02:39] <dr_willis> gdea73: iv had some go bad
[02:39] <x3qt0r> _jesse_,  elaborate please.
[02:39] <yagoo> diamonds, [    8.138612] Synaptics Touchpad, model: 1, fw: 6.2, id: 0x180b1, caps: 0xa04713/0x200000/0x0  line 728 :)
[02:40] <yagoo> diamonds, that's good news..
[02:40] <_jesse_> x3qt0r: I can't really elaborate more than that
[02:40] <jobalcaen> gdea73.....try reducing the resolutionh or refresh rate on your pc
[02:40] <gdea73> darn, this is the only 6' one, the others are like 6"
[02:40] <andykriss> hello guys.. which driver would u recomend for the geForce 7025/nForce 630a?
[02:40] <diamonds> yagoo: hooray!
[02:40] <yagoo> diamonds, it should be workable.. with X then..
[02:40] <gdea73> jobalcaen, in catalyst the second display doesn't even show up, and it can run at 1080p just like primary
[02:40] <yagoo> diamonds, see what X says-- cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|pastebinit -t xx
[02:40] <cmn`> x3qt0r, if you apt-get the packages on an internet connected computer, then copy /var/cache/apt/archive/* to the handicapped comp
[02:40] <diamonds> is there a way to move these windows keyboardwise?
[02:41] <_jesse_> `apt-get download` will also download to the current directory
[02:41] <dr_willis> gdea73:  ive had some monitors not like some ofmy cables also
[02:41] <diamonds> like windows 7?
[02:41] <x3qt0r> hmm
[02:41] <cmn`> x3qt0r, then dpkg -i {mp3playerprogram}.deb
[02:41] <javier__> hi. Is there a way to repair bad sectors in HDD in ubuntu?
[02:41] <CarlFK> natty, how do I enable compiz?
[02:41] <x3qt0r> Will the 10.04 packages work for 11.10
[02:41] <x3qt0r> ?
[02:41] <diamonds> windows 7 you can windows-left to move the window screen left
[02:41] <gdea73> dr_willis, ok, but this is the same configuration that was working before...
[02:41] <jobalcaen> gdea73...did ou physically move the pc or tv?
[02:41] <K4k> "Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead" I get this plus GPG signature errors doing apt-get update. I believe it's due to an incomplete update from earlier today. What's built in to apt to correct this?
[02:41] <diamonds> ok yagoo, lemme type that in before i lose my buffer
[02:41] <diamonds> shit
[02:41] <diamonds> yagoo: can you type that again :(
[02:41] <_jesse_> x3qt0r: not likely, you can download the .deb's from the website in that case
[02:42] <_jesse_> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[02:42] <x3qt0r> Which website.
[02:42] <x3qt0r> oh
[02:42] <gdea73> jobalcaen, yeah. I wonder why that would make a difference though?
[02:42] <diamonds> xchat window is over my terminal so I can't see both at once
[02:42] <gdea73> that's really the only change too, since it last worked. This TV has already had problems recognizing HDMI (xbox 360, etc)
[02:42] <gdea73> but it eventually worked, I wasn't sure how, or why..
[02:42] <jobalcaen> maybe you pulleda socket loose?
[02:42] <diamonds> theres a way to make windows less opaque... can I do that keyboardwise?
[02:42] <cmn`> javier__, boot from livecd then e2fsck -c <drive>
[02:42] <dr_willis> gdea73:  seen them get interfearance from power supplies also
[02:42] <CarlFK> diamonds: you can cut/paset into a terminal - copy from chat, right click in the term, select paste
[02:43] <jobalcaen> I need help setting a static ip with a wireless interface connecting to a WPA network. It works fine using dhcp but not on static for some reason
[02:43] <diamonds> CarlFK: updated ubuntu, mouse doesn't work
[02:43] <gdea73> really... maybe my wireless keyboard is doing that, because it's missing a lot of keypresses now.
[02:43] <javier__> cmn`, saying -c it will scan all my hard drive? (I have several partitions, windows included)
[02:43] <diamonds> CarlFK: can you paste back in what yagoo wrote, or message me?
[02:43] <x3qt0r> Will installing VLC solve the problem
[02:43] <x3qt0r> without installing the packages?
[02:43] <jobalcaen> is anyone here using a static ip on a wireless interface?
[02:43] <gdea73> meaning, maybe that is interf. with the psu as well, I mean the receiver is 2" below it.
[02:43] <yagoo> diamonds, see what X says-- cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log|pastebinit -t xx
[02:43] <gdea73> jobalcaen, not on linux...
[02:43] <gdea73> sorry
[02:43] <CarlFK> diamonds: shift insert is the hotkey, looking up what you need...
[02:44] <jobalcaen> is anyone here using a static ip on a wireless interface?
[02:44] <cmn`> javier__, e2fsck only does ext{2,3,4} partitions, so no. -c updates the bad sectors list in the partition table
[02:44] <gdea73> ah well... guess I'll rewatch some of the shows on TiVo
[02:44] <gdea73> thanks all
[02:44] <cmn`> you'll need to do scandisk from windows for the rest 'mafraid
[02:44] <diamonds> http://paste.ubuntu.com/718456 < yagoo
[02:45] <javier__> cmn`, ok. So I will run that. And for ntfs partition, can I do it somehow?
[02:46] <yagoo> diamonds, you have this-> [    21.098] (II) config/udev: Adding input device SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad (/dev/input/event5)
[02:46] <cmn`> javier__, I haven't tried this but the ntfsprogs package has a 'ntfsck' command
[02:47] <diamonds> yagoo: in the new log or old?
[02:47] <x3qt0r> _jesse_, there are so many packages over there
[02:47] <yagoo> diamonds, in the last one u posted
[02:47] <x3qt0r> which one should I be downloading
[02:47] <diamonds>  yagoo I cat'd both
[02:47] <cmn`> well it did, anyway. the latest version apparently doesn't.
[02:47] <diamonds> it should say the name before each...
[02:48] <HansLanda> can anyone help me configure my wlan? ubuntu 11.04 - dell notebook (private msg please)
[02:48] <diamonds> yagoo: so...
[02:49] <yagoo> diamonds, it's good news.. you must be close to having this work.. something may need to be triggered or something..
[02:49] <zakf> Hello?
[02:50] <diamonds> yagoo: yeah that's what I was thinking
[02:50] <javier__> cmn`, can't I install ntfsprogs without unistalling ntfs-3g?
[02:50] <diamonds> cuz like I said, it worked 'til I updated
[02:50] <diamonds> is there a service mouse restart?
[02:50] <K4k> I'm getting an error that "The following signatures were invalid", failed to fetch all the repositories (updates, security, release, backports). Anyone know how I can correct this?
[02:50] <yagoo> diamonds, did u look into synclient?
[02:50] <diamonds> nope :)
[02:50] <zakf> I am trying/hoping to install RAID 1 (mirror) on a fresh install of 11.10, and I cannot for the life of me get it to work. Can anyone help me to set up mirrored drives?
[02:51] <yagoo> diamonds, i'm no expert in this.. but i'm sure u're close to getting it work.. just 1 stupid command somewhere..
[02:51] <cmn`> javier__, ntfs-3g has the same programs, it's a fork of ntfsprogs.
[02:51] <diamonds> yagoo: yeah that's how the NIC was
[02:51]  * yagoo hates problems like diamonds is having..
[02:51] <yagoo> lol
[02:51]  * diamonds appreciates yagoo's sympathy
[02:51] <arooni-mobile> hi folks: i'm getting this error message: "junglediskdesktop: error while loading shared libraries: libnotify.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when i try to run jungle disk on ubuntu 11.10 64 bit version
[02:51] <diamonds> the nic was like... network eth0 soft enable or some shit
[02:51] <arooni-mobile> how do i fix
[02:51] <javier__> cmn`, all right. Thanks
[02:51] <diamonds> STUFF
[02:51] <diamonds> some stuff
[02:52] <FloodBot1> diamonds: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:52] <yagoo> yup
[02:52] <usr13> arooni-mobile: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1204116
[02:52] <yagoo> diamonds, at least you know that it is loaded by the kernel and X.
[02:52] <jobalcaen> I need help setting a static ip with a wireless interface connecting to a WPA network. It works fine using dhcp but not on static for some reason
[02:52] <arooni-mobile> usr13, thats not for me is it
[02:52] <yagoo> diamonds, I can still see what else can be done..
[02:52] <yagoo> diamonds, don't spam like that..
[02:52] <diamonds> 1000 thanks
[02:52] <usr13> arooni-mobile:  apt-get clean
[02:52] <zakf> Anyone know how to set up mirror drives? RAID 1?
[02:53] <arooni-mobile> usr13, same error
[02:53] <diamonds> yagoo: sorry, just forgot the "language" policy so I was correcting myself
[02:53] <yagoo> diamonds, "file /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input"  << command, what does it say?
[02:53] <usr13> arooni-mobile: http://en.newinstance.it/2009/06/22/the-following-signatures-were-invalid-badsig-40976eaf437d05b5-ubuntu-archive-automatic-signing-key/
[02:53] <xananax> Hello...I am getting apt-get errors: a GPG error for security, and a failed to fetch for updates...What can I do?
[02:53] <diamonds>  << command?
[02:53] <arooni-mobile> usr13, i'm not having a signature issue;  i'm having a run time issue
[02:53] <usr13> xananax:  http://en.newinstance.it/2009/06/22/the-following-signatures-were-invalid-badsig-40976eaf437d05b5-ubuntu-archive-automatic-signing-key/
[02:53] <javier__> cmn`, unfortunatelly it doesn't seem to work. I get things like unsupported replay_log or check_volume, unsupported cases found. BUt it says "volume is dirty"
[02:54] <diamonds> yagoo: directory
[02:54] <usr13> arooni-mobile: Sorry. Wrong nic.
[02:54] <yagoo> diamonds, i did. file is a command.
[02:54] <yagoo> diamonds, ok
[02:54] <diamonds> I see... a few .so files, drivers
[02:54] <diamonds> one synaptics
[02:54] <yagoo> diamonds, "ls /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input"  is a directory?
[02:54] <xananax> usr13: Yeah, I googled this and got this page, tried the steps listed...To no avail
[02:54] <yagoo> diamonds, can u pastebin this?
[02:54] <scribus12> anything similar to logmein for ubuntu/linux ?
[02:55] <cmn`> javier__, can you post a paste?
[02:55] <xananax> I got no error message while trying the steps, but got no positive effect either
[02:55] <diamonds> http://paste.ubuntu.com/718459 < yagoo
[02:55] <[v4riabl3]> is anyone familiar with synchroneyes software? I was wondering if the software would still be functional if one booted into a live cd. does a client(usually a teacher) need to connect to a server for each computers settings and info, or is it done solely through the network?
[02:55] <javier__> cmn`, sure, but it's only this: http://pastebin.com/pvJ0FcGq
[02:56] <yagoo> diamonds, did u see if u plug in a mouse, that the touchpad works?
[02:56] <yagoo> diamonds, i'll look into synclient
[02:56] <K4k> usr13: thanks for that link, that's exactly what I was looking for too
[02:56] <diamonds> ok I'll try, brb yagoo
[02:56] <none_13> hi guys
[02:57] <yagoo> diamonds, synclient -l << says anything?
[02:57] <none_13> im new in unity can u help me? i nned to set on desktop clock and shutdown-logout buttons
[02:57] <diamonds> http://paste.ubuntu.com/718461/
[02:57] <scribus12> [02:58] <cmn`> ah, ntfsprogs? I thought you were talking about e2fsck :) I haven't used them unfortunately. Windows' tools were designed by the guys that designed the fs, but ntfs-3g's tools aren't all that great.
[02:58] <Polah> scribus12, SSH for command line, VNC for graphical
[02:58] <jobalcaen> I need help setting a static ip with a wireless interface connecting to a WPA network. It works fine using dhcp but not on static for some reason
[02:58] <SimonJai> hey guys
[02:58] <Diamondcite> scribus12: I think teamviewer should also work
[02:58] <none_13> use ssh  or ssh -X
[02:58] <usr13> arooni-mobile: find /usr/lib -name libnotify.so.1* -type f
[02:58] <K4k> none_13: See if you can find what you're looking for here, seems pretty info packed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity
[02:58] <Diamondcite> For ssh.. try ssh -CY user@host
[02:58] <xananax> Hello...I am getting apt-get errors: a GPG error for security, and a failed to fetch for updates...What can I do? I tried apt-get clean, moving the lists dir, and apt-get -f update, I get the same errors
[02:58]  * yagoo thinks ssh -XY is good too
[02:58] <diamonds> http://paste.ubuntu.com/718461/ < yagoo
[02:59] <Diamondcite> the -CY is for compressed ssh with Secure X11 forwarding
[02:59] <Polah> xananax, what repository?
[02:59] <SimonJai> for some reason our ubuntu lost its static IP
[02:59] <scribus12> none_13: I use ssh a lot, but her ip is dynamic anything I can do about it?
[02:59] <SimonJai> i found this in the logs:   Oct 25 02:40:20 server dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of 10.2.100.128 on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
[02:59] <xananax> Polah: security & updates
[02:59] <SimonJai> any ideas?
[02:59] <yagoo> diamonds, i'm guessing.. the bottom of that log looks normal? maybe u just need 3 values to set the edges
[02:59] <yagoo> diamonds, maybe a gui app just changes those 3 edges..
[03:00] <diamonds> yagoo: what gui?
[03:00] <Polah> xananax, you could try removing and readding the repository. I don't know the command to remove, but to readd would be sudo add-apt-repository <repositorygoeshere>
[03:00] <usr13> arooni-mobile: You may need to do a synlink,
[03:00] <arooni-mobile> usr13, how can id o that
[03:00] <javier__> cmn`, I just found that gparted can do something similar, but if I try to run the test, it can't even make the first step and finds an error
[03:01] <xananax> Polah: in other words, archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates & security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-security
[03:01] <yagoo> diamonds, not sure--- but chechk this out-> dpkg -L xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[03:01] <Polah> scribus12, set a static IP on there system's or router's network settings. Of course, if you'll be accessing it externally (outside your home network) you'll also need to configure port forwarding on the router and ask your ISP for a static IP as well
[03:01] <luist> whats lighter to boot, unity or gnome?
[03:01] <diamonds> yagoo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/718465/
[03:01] <yagoo> diamonds, use firefox to navigate to /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics to read README.alps
[03:02] <xananax> Polah: Ok I will try this....Would the command be sudo apt-add-repository http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ for example?
[03:02] <usr13> arooni-mobile: If you only have libnotify.so.1.1.3   Do this:  ln -s /usr/lib/libnotify.so.1.1.3 /usr/lib/libnotify.so.1
[03:02] <jobalcaen> I need help setting a static ip with a wireless interface connecting to a WPA network. It works fine using dhcp but not on static for some reason
[03:02] <cmn`> javier__, I think gparted uses the ntfs-3g cli tools in the background ;)
[03:02] <Gunz4MiPPle> when I start Gnome session, compiz is running, and no gnome-shell!
[03:03] <diamonds> yagoo: I don't get it... what's an ALPS vs. Synaptics touchpad?
[03:03] <usr13> arooni-mobile: sudo  ln -s /usr/lib/libnotify.so.1.1.3 /usr/lib/libnotify.so.1
[03:03] <Polah> xananax, yes, or thereabouts. Copy the line for that repository from your /etc/apt/sources.list, then remove it and save (you'll need to use sudo to edit it), then sudo add-apt-repository <copy paste line here> should work
[03:03] <Polah> xananax, if you want, back up your entire /etc/apt/sources.list elsewhere just in cas
[03:03] <xananax> Polah: yes i'll do that
[03:03] <xananax> thanks
[03:04] <watie> anyone, how to setup wireless canon printer on ubuntu?
[03:04] <usr13> watie: Same way you would any other network printer.
[03:04] <usr13> watie: I usually just use cups web based interface.
[03:05] <watie> usr13 : i have never install any
[03:05] <sdz> my gnome session just froze... mouse cursor moves on black screen... any ideas on a way to give it a little kick or just restart gdm?
[03:05] <usr13> watie: localhost:631   #In firefox's address bar
[03:05] <javier__> cmn`, yes... but, any idea why it can't make it work?
[03:05] <watie> usr13: type in to the web browser u mean?
[03:05] <Polah> scribus12, don't message me privately please, keep it in the channel. In that case you'll need to get your ISP to provide a static IP (as well as assigning your own internal network IPs statically)
[03:06] <usr13> yes
[03:06] <jobalcaen> I need help setting a static ip with a wireless interface connecting to a WPA network. It works fine using dhcp but not on static for some reason
[03:07] <yagoo> diamonds, i bet u dont even need to edit the xorg.conf
[03:07] <yagoo> diamonds, u there?
[03:07] <diamonds> yagoo: yep
[03:07] <diamonds> http://askubuntu.com/questions/17590/synaptics-touchpad-on-my-acer-4530-stop-working reading this
[03:07] <yagoo> diamonds, that readme.alps shows to set values for the edgess..
[03:07] <watie> usr13: im not using firefox, i use chromium web browser, how?
[03:07] <luist> whats lighter and faster to boot, unity or gnome?
[03:07] <usr13> jobalcaen: First, see if our router has provision for it.
[03:07] <cmn`> javier__, if i had an NTFS partition to play with I'd be able to help with your issue more, but all the hd's in this house are ext3/4 ;)
[03:07] <yagoo> diamonds, so try to use synclient to make settings for the edges you dont have ..( all edges are currently 0 )
[03:07] <usr13> watie: tame way
[03:07] <diamonds> ????
[03:07] <diamonds> ok
[03:08] <javier__> cmn`, good choice :) thanks a lot anyway!
[03:08] <yagoo> diamonds, if it still doesnt work.. try to use some misc values based on that readme.alps.. maybe 1 or 2 items need a value set
[03:08] <diamonds> which command showed the edges, yagoo ?
[03:08] <Polah> javier__, what are you trying to do?
[03:08] <watie> usr13: then?
[03:08] <yagoo> diamonds, duh.. synclient
[03:08] <yagoo> diamonds, the log u posted..
[03:08] <yagoo> diamonds, all EDGES ARE ZERO
[03:08] <usr13> watie: add printer
[03:08] <diamonds> yagoo: yeah I posted it but I don't know what any of the logs mean :p
[03:08] <scribus12> Polah: thanks. I'll see if they'll d that:)
[03:09] <xananax> Polah: No, this does not work; apt-add-repo is only for PPAs. To add repositories, you edit the file (or echo the line >>)
[03:09] <xananax> So in the end it's the same as disabling/enabling the repo
[03:09] <usr13> watie: Or Administration and then  Add Printer
[03:09] <xananax> it does not get a new GPG key or anything
[03:09] <watie> usr13: they need username and password, its my desktop login or what?
[03:10] <usr13> yea
[03:10] <yagoo> diamonds, in a sec
[03:10] <Polah> scribus12, might cost you extra. I believe there are services that provide hostnames for dynamic addresses if you want to look that up as well
[03:10] <Polah> xananax, no it works for all both.
[03:10] <diamonds> thanks, I'm reading the manpage
[03:10] <cmn`> javier__, I don't know if this will help but I just got pointed at testdisk, it's in the repos so you can apt-get it
[03:10] <Polah> xananax, also automatically gets the key for it.
[03:10] <xananax> Polah: ok I am a noob so you must be right, but it does not show any message that it's getting the key like it would when I add PPAs
[03:11] <m477> some pdf files have prohibition of copy text from them via ctrl+c, how can I go around it?
[03:11] <Polah> xananax, Check it's added it to your sources.list quickly, it might not like having spaces or suchlike
[03:12] <watie> usr13 : do i have to plug in my printer usb cable into my pc?
[03:12] <xananax> Polah: It does get added, but the line is not the same; the line I removed is "deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates main restricted universe multiverse" and the line I have now is "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/"....
[03:12] <nelson_> holaa
[03:13] <diamonds> yagoo: what do you mean the edges are all zero?
[03:13] <diamonds> cuz it doesn't appear that way when I synclient -l
[03:13] <yagoo> diamonds, http://paste.ubuntu.com/718461/
[03:13] <yagoo> diamonds, um yes it does
[03:13] <watie> usr13 : i cant find the printer that i want, but i got printer that connect with my pc using usb cable
[03:13] <diamonds> yagoo: I believe you if you say so
[03:13] <diamonds> but it says LeftEdge = 1752
[03:14] <yagoo> diamonds, are u an ass? You pasted that url u gave me -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/718461/
[03:14] <diamonds> yagoo: I know but at the top line two is "LeftEdge                = 1752"
[03:14] <yagoo> diamonds, i said the bottom (if u see the irc log.. i talk about the "ending" of the log)
[03:14] <yagoo> argh
[03:14] <Polah> xananax, remove that, save again and then run this:  sudo add-apt-respository 'deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-updates main restricted universe multiverse'   see how that goes
[03:14] <diamonds> yagoo: OK I see now!  There are multiple things called *Edge
[03:15] <diamonds> yagoo: please don't get upset, I appreciate your help
[03:15] <Polah> xananax, make sure it hasn't added lines with just "deb" and "natty-updates" and the like too, in case it's interpreted each string separated by spaces as individual arguments
[03:15] <yagoo> thats ok
[03:15] <diamonds> I'm sorry I don't know more about the kernal and whatnot, I'm using ubuntu cuz I was told it was "easy to use" :(
[03:16] <yagoo> diamonds, dunno much about synaptics.. i would compare that synclient -l output with that readme.alps sample and try to merge what u dont have..
[03:16] <yagoo> diamonds, if it still doesnt work.. go the xorg.conf and   Option	"Device"		"/dev/psaux"
[03:16] <diamonds> I read the synclient manpage and I didn't see how to SET settings
[03:16] <yagoo> diamonds, i pastebinit that readme.alps for easier copy/paste -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/718469/
[03:17] <diamonds> thanks
[03:17] <diamonds> where's the config file?
[03:17] <xananax> Polah: I get the same error as before: Failed to fetch bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty-updates_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash Sum mismatch
[03:17] <yagoo> diamonds, u can probably throw in synclient command line in ~/.xsession -- form is-> synclient var1=value var2=value .. ..
[03:17] <xananax> This is killing me
[03:17] <yagoo> diamonds, it's 1 line..
[03:18] <Polah> xananax, I don't know then. There is an option to ignore non-matching keys when using apt-get but obviously it's no ideal to have to do that every time.
[03:18] <xananax> Polah: do you know if I can delete my gpg file and refresh all keys?
[03:19] <nonotanother> irc.greatirc.net
[03:19] <diamonds> yagoo: I still don't understand, this http://paste.ubuntu.com/718469/ doesn't address AreaTopEdge etc.
[03:20] <Polah> xananax, that could work. I'll test it for you
[03:20] <xananax> Polah: thanks a lot, sorry to be a bother
[03:21] <diamonds> If  sup‐ ported by the server (version 1.9 and later), the edge may be specified in percent of the total height of the touchpad. Property: "Synaptics Area"
[03:21] <diamonds> how can I figure out my synaptics server version?
[03:21] <Polah> xananax, apt-get update doesn't like me for doing that
[03:21] <oooaaaooo> hey guys have a question about window sizes in ubuntu 11.04; Some of my system windows are oversized; e.g. when I open up evolution's preferences i cannot see the OK/APply buttons at the bottom. Sometimes I get away with resizing the windows manually but most of the times i cant resize them. WHat should I do? Change my resolution?
[03:22] <Bentley_> hi all, I've upgraded to 11.10, and everything was working great. Then I went into compiz settings and disabled "snapping windows". After I did that, I lost my unity sidebar/launcher and the top panel. Rebooting doesn't help, I'm left with no way to use my system. I managed to open a terminal and start xchat, and here I am. Any idea how to debug?
[03:22] <arooni-mobile> hi folks: i'm getting this error message: "junglediskdesktop: error while loading shared libraries: libnotify.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" when i try to run jungle disk on ubuntu 11.10 64 bit version
[03:23] <xananax> Bentley_: run
[03:23] <gelf> alt+F1
[03:23] <magn3ts> Does anyone have NGINX starting at boot in Oneiric or is this anohter thing to add to the list of BROKEN?
[03:23] <TheEvilPhoenix> oooaaaooo:  set the max resolution you can.
[03:23] <xananax> Bentley_: compiz config from the command line and change the setting back for now (I am looking for the command)
[03:23] <TheEvilPhoenix> magn3ts:  #ubuntu-server
[03:23] <ouyes> is there any painting tools , I am reading a computer text books, I want to make some notes, so I need a tool to draw lines, rectangular, and put texts besides them?
[03:23] <TheEvilPhoenix> magn3ts:  may I /query you?
[03:23] <magn3ts> TheEvilPhoenix, uh, sure?
[03:24] <magn3ts> (I don't know what that means)
[03:24] <oooaaaooo> TheEvilPhoenix: i just checked and it seems to be the max
[03:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> oooaaaooo:  netbook?
[03:24] <xananax> Bentley_: alt+f2 then ccsm, or just ccsm from the command line
[03:24] <oooaaaooo> TheEvilPhoenix: yeah
[03:24] <diamonds> how do I enable shmconfig?
[03:25] <darius> can anyone help me? I'm still having issues with Skype and Minecraft
[03:25] <diamonds> man -k shmconfig yields nothing
[03:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> oooaaaooo:  yeah... you might be out of luck... i have the same issue with *ANY* version
[03:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> darius:  what's your issue with minecraft?
[03:26] <oooaaaooo> TheEvilPhoenix: aww :( I guess I could hook it up to an lcd and up the res?
[03:26] <darius> theevilphoenix, whenever im at the login screen it says that it can't connect to minecraft.net when I try and sign in
[03:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> darius:  that's a networking issue
[03:26] <diamonds> "Today's X rarely requires manual configuration." heh... yes "only if you want to use your touchpad" :p
[03:26] <TheEvilPhoenix> darius: or the sites are being blocked
[03:26] <scribus12> does there have to be that menu on left side? is ther a way to disable it and have more usual start button?
[03:27] <darius> TheEvilPheoni, how can I fix that? I have a Minecraft server running on the same network and that connects fine
[03:28] <xananax> scribus12: you can remove unity and put back gnome2, but that won't hold for long, if you are using ubuntu you are going to have to get used to unity
[03:28] <Bentley_> xananax, thanks, that got me into the compiz settings. Still no love though - no unity launcher or top panel. Compiz seems to be working (ie: i can turn on wobbly windows and see it working)
[03:28] <xananax> did you try running gnome-panel?
[03:29] <xananax> Bentley_: my problem is I have no idea how unity works, I can deal with gnome errors, but I ain't using unity so...
[03:29] <Polah> xananax, you could try reimporting the key manually, but I don't know the keys for the repositories.
[03:30] <Bentley_> xananax, I noticed that there is a Ubuntu Unity Plugin" in compiz settings. It was turned off.  Turned it on a viola!
[03:30] <xananax> Polah: thanks a lot for all the effort anyway. Do you have any idea where I could find that?
[03:30] <scribus12> xananax: I guess i' might be better off trying lubunu or xubuntu.
[03:30] <darius> and can anyone help with my skype issue? all I get is binary file corrupt, I've reinstalled skype 10 times and it stil says it.
[03:30] <xananax> Bentley_: Good luck!
[03:31] <yagoo> diamonds, file /etc/X11/xorg.conf << exists?
[03:31] <xananax> scribus12: yeah, or Mint, it's still using gnome2, but eventually, it will have to switch to G3
[03:31] <yagoo> diamonds, if not.. then i can tell u how a command can make a sample just for ur machine
[03:31] <diamonds> yagoo: no it doesn't
[03:32] <Polah> xananax, No idea. the command is gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv <key>  then there's a second one to add it to the keyring if I can find it
[03:32] <diamonds> here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config it says /etc/xorg.conf and that's not there either
[03:32] <xananax> Polah: thanks a lot, if I can get the key I should find my way around to add it to trusted.gpg somehow
[03:33] <diamonds> I tried sudo Xorg -configure but it said "Server is already active for display 0
[03:33] <xananax> scribus12: I am personally testing Mint 11 as I speak, it's cool, I it feels like my good old ubuntu again, but when gnome2 will not be an option anymore I'll probably turn to xfce, unless unity or G3 has evolved enough so I can customize them
[03:33] <diamonds> so I think I understand the issue now yagoo, as you pointed out
[03:33] <diamonds> it's ignoring the whole trackpad (it seems)
[03:34] <watie> anyone can help me : i want to setup wireless printer into my ubuntu desktop. i do have printer direct connect using usb cable but i still need to connect to my other office freind printer.
[03:34] <scribus12> xananax: I'm using centos and fedoa myself wuth openbox usually. was just looking for something easy for my mom.
[03:34] <diamonds> but I don't know a) where to fix it and b) what values to add, because synclient -m doesn't work because SHMConfig is disabled and I can't figure out how to enable it
[03:34] <Polah> xananax, I don't suppose it's given you a string of letters and numbers with one of the errors, like D04AFJG145L or something like that?
[03:34] <scribus12> xananax: ubuntu though seems way how can I put it .. untraditionally looking:)
[03:35] <xananax> Polah: yes it did! GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com natty-security Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:35] <xananax> scribus12: if it's for you mom by all means get her mint
[03:36] <xananax> scribus12: or jolicloud, looks cool, never tried it tho, but I was thinking of getting it for my own mom
[03:36] <xananax> it's untraditional but seems to work well
[03:37] <jo-erlend> if I choose a different session than Unity before I  log in, that is remembered to the next login. Where is that stored?
[03:37] <scribus12> xananax: totally does.  I hate to be a help desk though. You know like - move ur mouse there. click there.
[03:37] <MrKeuner> hi, which key to see kernel options upon boot?
[03:37] <MrKeuner> lucid
[03:37] <MrKeuner> !grub
[03:37] <en1gma> is 'make-kpkg' only used when making kernels? i mean if i dload the source for say firefox and i go to build it i would not use 'mak-kpkg' there?
[03:37] <MrKeuner> !grub1
[03:37] <watie> how to setup canon wireless printer?
[03:38] <Polah> xananax, I've just discovered the apt-key command which is nice and may help us here. Could you pastebin the output of apt-key list please?
[03:38] <diamonds> yagoo: so....
[03:38] <diamonds> synclient touchpadoff=0
[03:38] <diamonds> I'm going to go hang myself now :)
[03:39] <en1gma> what about if i got the sources for a pci nic driver and wanted to build a module. would that use the command 'make-kpkg'?
[03:39] <yagoo> diamonds, ?
[03:39] <diamonds> that was it
[03:39] <Polah> xananax, or rather run that as sudo please
[03:39] <en1gma> anyone here that has done some custom building?
[03:40] <xananax> Polah: woah, you're really going out of your way to help me, I appreciate it: http://pastebin.com/XjXCRxYa
[03:40] <diamonds> aaaaand... it's NOT in the synclient manpage, NOT in the synaptics manpage :)
[03:40] <MrKeuner> grub does not give me kernel selection menu in lucid, how can i choose another kernel when booting?
[03:40] <diamonds> so the next person who says to RTFM can GDIAF
[03:40] <diamonds> thank you for all your help yagoo!!!
[03:40] <en1gma> me me im next i called it :)
[03:40] <Polah> xananax, there's not much to do at twenty to five in the morning (;
[03:40] <UngaHunga> Hi.  Ubuntu 11.04.  Is there a way to make a network shortcut on my desktop.  The network is an SMB mount(via gvfs).  Thanks.
[03:41] <yagoo> diamonds, np..
[03:41] <yagoo> diamonds, i actually learn something along the process of helping :)
[03:41] <en1gma> 'make-kpkg' when is it to be used? only for kernels, modules or packages like firefox?
[03:41] <diamonds> how does the manpage not have that option!!!! I'll email the synaptics ppl... tomorrow :)
[03:42] <watie> anyone, how to setup canon wireless printer?
[03:42] <diamonds> oh it's camel case
[03:42] <Polah> xananax, and the same for    sudo apt-key export 437D05B5 please
[03:42] <en1gma> is there another channel i should be in...it feels like 75% of my questions i ask are way beyond what most people can answer in here
[03:42] <en1gma> its always one of the ops or regs that help me
[03:43] <en1gma> i want #ubuntu-tier3
[03:43] <diamonds> yagoo it was actually right there in the paste XD TouchpadOff = 1
[03:43] <xananax> Polah: http://pastebin.com/DDJJHmVe
[03:44] <cmn`> en1gma, it's for kernels
[03:44] <diamonds> wait, so the AreaTopEdge and whatnot are... I guess irrelevant if you set them all to zero
[03:44] <kiruax> bonjour
[03:44] <kiruax> comment je fais pour avoir a liste des chan ?
[03:44] <diamonds> kiruax: /msg alis help
[03:44] <xananax> en1gma: make-kpkg utility is used to create the kernel related Debian packages
[03:44] <liam> Hi. I have just installed 11.10 on a lenovo idea pad Y560P. Everything works and then all of a sudden if stops booting. Can't see any error messages. I have already tried one reinstall and then the same thing happens again. Any ideas on how I could find out whats happening?
[03:45] <kiruax> merci
[03:45] <en1gma> cmn` so even if im building a module it can not be used? #2 ok i dloaded another (what appears to be a modified kernel) and it is missing the debian/scripts die
[03:45] <en1gma> dir*
[03:45] <en1gma> xananax so if i got a nic driver i want to build from sources i would or i would not use it?
[03:46] <en1gma> kernel related is drivers/modules right?
[03:46] <xananax> en1gma, I truly have no idea sorry; never built packages
[03:46] <cmn`> en1gma, seperate modules are usually packaged seperately. make-kpkg is usually for just the kernel tree
[03:47] <en1gma> you know what i have spent about 2 hrs on the ubuntu wiki how to compile a kernel and that thing is crap
[03:47] <en1gma> someone really needs to take a look at it...its actually brokebn
[03:47] <xananax> en1gma: I would advise to go higher up in the doc (debian) for such low-level stuff
[03:47] <en1gma> ahh ok.
[03:48] <danes> hello, anyone knows if there is any media application to modify pictures and make them look like 3d?
[03:48] <xananax> I never tried, but I guess the ubuntu doc comes only as a completion of debian doc when it comes to these things
[03:48] <en1gma> strange stuff is happening in this area....its actually trying to use debian make files that are not in the right place for ubuntu
[03:48] <xananax> danes: what does that mean? make them look like flat planes rotated in 3d space?
[03:49] <en1gma> ok thanks gonna go back to googling
[03:49] <danes> xananax: I just want to make a picture look like 3d when you wear the blue and red glasses
[03:49] <amer> hi
[03:49] <amer> hi room
[03:49] <amer> how are you all
[03:50] <xananax> danes: you have two pictures taken from two different angles (10cm)?
[03:50] <diamonds> can anyone tell me why ubuntu disabled my touchpad on update?
[03:50] <CarlFK> danes: I think I just saw something about that using blender
[03:50] <UngaHunga> Hi.  Ubuntu 11.04.  Is there a way to make a network shortcut on my desktop.  The network is an SMB mount(via gvfs).  Thanks.
[03:50] <gelf> stereoscopic filter of some kind?
[03:50] <gwillakers> has anyone been successful loading realtek 8111e lan drivers?
[03:50] <amer> got 1 doubt.
[03:50] <esteban__> holas
[03:50] <Polah> xananax, sorry about the wait. Your keys match for that repository, so I'm stumped as to why it's throwing errors about mismatches
[03:51] <boldfilter> where do I access user groups in 11.10?
[03:51] <danes> xananax: I am looking at using a single picture and make a phase shift of a copy aofthe picture in blue or something similar and make a 3d illusion. I am wondering if there is any app already there?
[03:51] <amer> where is documentation manuals installed on my machine. I just installed them from synaptec manager
[03:51] <esteban__> alguien me ayuda
[03:51] <amer> where is documentation manuals installed on my machine. I just installed them from synaptec manager
[03:51] <Polah> xananax, you say you've cleared your /var/lib/apt/lists?
[03:52] <watie> please help
[03:52] <danes> !ubun-es esteban
[03:52] <xananax> Polah: ?!! This is a two days fresh install, it's really killing me that it got broken so fast...Twas sopposed to be DA install of the year....Anyway, big big thanks for the effort
[03:52] <xananax> Polah: yeah, several times
[03:52] <xananax> but I'll try once more
[03:52] <MrKeuner> grub does not give me kernel selection menu in lucid, how can i choose another kernel when booting?
[03:52] <xananax> danes: but you know this won't be 3d, right?
[03:52] <esteban__> alguien habla español?
[03:52] <danes> xananax: yes, I just want the effect
[03:52] <liam> my 11.10 install has stopped booting. The last thing I see before it stalls is "Speech dispatcher disabled edit /etc/default/speech-dispatcher checking for running unattended upgrades". Anyone know what might be causing this?
[03:52] <Polah> xananax, well if you're lucky perhaps next time you reboot it'll fix it (: Else, a fresh install certainly should but that'd be a lot of effort for a small thing.
[03:53] <danes> esteban, yo, pero aqui no vas a recibir mucha ayuda, ve al canal de ayuda en espanol ubuntu-es
[03:53] <xananax> danes: then you should be able to do it in gimp, copy the image, remove channels, merge both images
[03:53] <watie> :-(
[03:53] <amer> where is documentation manuals installed on my machine. I just installed them from synaptec manager
[03:54] <jhansonxi> amer: /usr/share/doc
[03:54] <xananax> Polah: Ok, I'm crossing my fingers...It would indeed be too bad to reinstall
[03:55] <meta-coder> amer, to see all the files that were installed when you installed a package usi this command: dpkg -L packagename
[03:55] <jhansonxi> amer:  The compressed docs can be viewed with the file viewer in Midnight Commander (mc; apt-get install mc)
[03:55] <n-iCe> hello, what's the package name of Startup Disk Creator ?
[03:55] <amer> thankyou meta coder
[03:55] <amer> i appreciate your help
[03:56] <zakf> I am trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 Desktop from a CD, but it freezes during boot with "ISOLINUX 4.04 20110518 ETCD" on the screen
[03:56] <xananax> danes: this might help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfYMe_vYhu4
[03:56] <CarlFK> danes: http://linuxgazette.net/104/kapil.html  "How To Make a StereoGram with GIMP, Blender and StereoGraph"  mabye close enough to
[03:56] <CarlFK> how do I enable compiz in natty?
[03:56] <n-iCe> hello, what's the package name of Startup Disk Creator ?
[03:56] <meta-coder> amer, you're welcome. to just see all the files that have 'doc' in their path/name use: dpkg -L packagename | grep doc
[03:57] <K4k> I'm still milling over my login issue if anyone can help me. I log in to lightdm and I get booted back to the login screen.
[03:57] <jakes> guys anyone tell me how to install backtrack 5 menu in ubuntu plz
[03:57] <tripelb> Hello. I have a MacBook now. I have a copy of the ubuntu.iso on the hard drive. I have a 2G emplty "flash drive" SD card. I'd like instructions for making the boot from all this. The sitespages I found were from 2008. Something more current SVP
[03:58] <amer> i am kind of new to linux metacoder. also i decided to learn java programing on ubuntu. so iam kind of frustrated with problesm comming up
[03:58] <xananax> Ok I'm getting back to work; Polah, thanks a lot for everything, good luck everyone
[03:58] <jakes> guys anyone tell me how to install backtrack 5 menu in ubuntu plz
[03:59] <CarlFK> tripelb: I hear you can now dd the iso onto a usb stick and it becomes bootable.
[03:59] <amer> meta-coder, how long it has been you are using linux
[03:59] <n-iCe> any software to create a .iso bootable disk in a usb? besides unetbootin
[03:59] <meta-coder> amer, around 1 year...
[04:00] <jakes> guys anyone tell me how to install backtrack 5 menu in ubuntu plz
[04:01] <meta-coder> n-iCe, Applications > Other > Startup Disk Creator
[04:01] <n-iCe> I am not in ubuntu right now, I want to install ubuntu I got the usb
[04:01] <n-iCe> and the iso meta-coder
[04:02] <CarlFK> jakes: asking that often is poor form.  there is #backtrack, but only 10 people, so no clue how well that's going to work.
[04:03] <meta-coder> n-iCe, See these Google search results: http://goo.gl/x1xjN
[04:04] <gwillakers> Hi all.  Has anyone been successful loading realtek 8111e lan drivers?
[04:05] <watie> ok fine. theres no one can help me here. tq
[04:05] <meta-coder> Quote from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick : To install the i386 desktop version to a USB flash drive from a disk image on Windows, use the incredibly easy process described at http://www.pendrivelinux.com/create-a-ubuntu-9-10-live-usb-in-windows/ .
[04:07] <blsh0p> hey everyone, is there a pdf viewer in Ubuntu Software Center that lets you type/draw/underline/highlight the pages of a PDF?
[04:07] <linuxuz3r_> can you update from lucid to the new release
[04:08] <meta-coder> n-iCe, http://www.linuxliveusb.com/ should work.
[04:08] <matrillox> greetings all. having an issue with Ubuntu Srv after applying the latest apt-get patches.
[04:08] <linuxuz3r_> hi meta-coder
[04:08] <linuxuz3r_> can you update from lucid to the new release
[04:09] <roasted_> oh my
[04:09] <matrillox> running 11.10 Srv, eth0 is not coming online during boot.
[04:11] <osmosis> any get compiz negative plugin working in  11.10 ???
[04:13] <alex1017> hi, is anybody seeing me?
[04:14] <TheEvilPhoenix> alex1017:  yes we see you
[04:14] <alex1017> is this a place to ask questions about problems with Ubuntu?
[04:14] <TheEvilPhoenix> alex1017:  but FYI, that's better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic - this is the Ubuntu support room - IRC support isnt the primary focus here
[04:14] <TheEvilPhoenix> alex1017:  yes.
[04:14] <jakes> anybody see me?
[04:15] <gulzar> how to install "Imlib2 " for conky? Unable to find it in synaptic. Using 11.10.
[04:15] <meta-coder> jakes, yes we see you,,
[04:15] <alex1017> i am on a Dell Mini 9 using ubuntu, i am using automatic upgrades, everything has been cool, but the latest upgrade i downloaded, it says it doesnt have enough memory to install.....  any suggestions?
[04:15] <TheEvilPhoenix> alex1017:  check disk space first.  secondly, whats the update/package?
 sudo apt-get clean
 sudo apt-get autoremove
[04:16] <jakes> guys anyone tell me how to install backtrack 5 menu in ubuntu plz
[04:16] <alex1017> gulzar, i will try those commands, i tried something similar.... phoenix, i will go back try again and get more details
[04:17] <gulzar> alex1017, use these commands and update/upgrade again
[04:17] <gulzar> alex1017, and check your disk space also
[04:17] <alex1017> ok
[04:17] <gulzar> alex1017, OK
[04:18] <gulzar> Help please. how to install "Imlib2 " for conky? Unable to find it in synaptic. Using 11.10.
[04:18] <savid> Has anyone installed oneiric on a macbook pro 8 (early 2011)?
[04:18] <newstandards> register
[04:19] <yagoo> savid, u need refit
[04:19] <yagoo> savid, refit.sf.net
[04:19] <meta-coder> gulzar, i think it is libimlib2 and not just imlib2. And its relative URL is pub/ubuntu/pool/main/i/imlib2/libimlib2_1.4.4-1_i386.deb on any ubuntu mirror..
[04:20] <savid> yagoo, yeah,  I've already installed oneiric, I'm just having some issues with a few things
[04:20] <gulzar> meta-coder, Ok . yes it is. But it is installed and I am still getting error with conky
[04:20] <meta-coder> gulzar, what kind of error?
[04:20] <yagoo> savid, u need refit
[04:20] <yagoo> savid, install grub2 to linux's "/"
[04:21] <savid> yagoo,  I know that, like I said I've already installed oneiric on my macbook
[04:21] <yagoo> savid, partition
[04:21] <yagoo> savid, but what about grub2?
[04:21] <yagoo> savid, do u have refit , y/n?
[04:21] <savid> yagoo, yes, I've installed refit and have installed oneric.  It works fine, just having issues with wireless, trackpad, and keyboard.
[04:22] <gulzar> meta-coder, see this http://pastebin.com/kDXVcqnt
[04:22] <yagoo> savid, i beleieve there's generic linux procedure for the macs.. (u may need a bootline option or not) (see google: ubuntu wiki mac)
[04:23] <savid> yagoo,   yes, I've read through the wikis, no specific instructions for my macbook version and oneiric.
[04:23] <savid> yagoo,  touchpad is "supposed" to work out of the box,  but doesn't seem to.  Do you have a macbook w/ oneiric?
[04:23] <darius> Does anyone know how to improve the performance of minecraft, my computer is supposed to have an extremely nice graphics card but minecraft runs horribly.
[04:24] <meta-coder> gulzar, see this thread (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1295621 ) has any solution.
[04:25] <arooni-mobile> is there a way to customize 11.10's unity alt tab behavior?  i kind of liked it when alt tab would only work on the current workspace; where now it works across workspaces
[04:25] <alex1017> gulzar? the autoremove cleared out a bunch of *****, like 40+ M....  i tried to update again, same lack of disk space msg (but i should have enough now i think) -- should i restart my computer for the autoremove changes to take effect and clear the diskspace it said it would clear???
[04:25] <guest10320> Hello I am a Ubuntu user and I have a peculiar problem since I have installed this os.
[04:26] <dgrant> is there any way to edit the entries that pop up in lens?
[04:26] <guest10320> Inside input boxes on websites such as gmail or what have you the auto-suggest feature that normally remembers my password and suggests it
[04:26] <dgrant> like see what binary they actually execute?
[04:26] <guest10320> suggests a random string of numbe  slike "AJOndaJKL33jkkj" as if I typed that into the input box
[04:26] <gulzar> alex1017, no , no need of restart. Try checking disk space. How much is it?
[04:27] <guest10320> Can someone explaint o me what may be going on with these strings of numbers appearing in my input boxes?
[04:27] <guest10320> numbers/letters*
[04:27] <gulzar> meta-coder, Thank You
[04:27] <alex1017> gulzar, it says i am using 5.9 G of 6.8 G
[04:28] <meta-coder> gulzar, welcome..
[04:28] <alex1017> gulzar, the install says it wants 262 and i need to free 12 M
[04:28] <rmk> hi -- has anyone seen an issue during installation where dns resolution fails regardless of what you do?  I drop to shell, can ping all the necessary resources but nothing will resolve.  /etc/resolv.conf is correct and I can ping the nameserver in question.
[04:28] <alex1017> 262 M
[04:29] <gulzar> alex1017, Ok then... clear your thumbnails. from /home it will save lots of space. More than autoremove. If confused then use Bleachbit from software centre and use it to clean unused space. It wil surely save you
[04:30] <gulzar> alex1017, check disk space with disk utility.
[04:30] <gulzar> alex1017, it looks like something is wrong.,,,with the partitions
[04:31] <gulzar> alex1017, how big is your / ?
[04:31] <gulzar> alex1017, you made a separate /home or is it within / ?
[04:31] <alex1017> gulzar, ty, i dont know about thumbnails or bleachbit -- can you give me more specifics on where/how to use those?
[04:31] <BlackWeb> Have a Intel Graphics embedded video card on labtop, which i have the "xserver-xorg-video-intel", and after manually telling it to use the intel driver then Desktop Effects still cant be enabled any ideas
[04:31] <alex1017> ohhhhhhh maybe there is a partition in there, but the upgrades have worked in the past
[04:32] <alex1017> i'm not sure how to answer your questions -- how to look at what you are askking me to look at
[04:32] <gulzar> alex1017, bleachbit is like ccleaner on windows machine. Install it from software center and its very easy to sue. You wil get it in first look
[04:32] <SinnerNyx> in what conditions would grub not do the usual countdown to autoselect the first option?
[04:32] <gulzar> alex1017, OK then step wise....
[04:32] <gulzar> alex1017, open disk utility
[04:32] <alex1017> taking notes....
[04:33] <alex1017> is that Disk Usage Analyzer?
[04:33] <gulzar> alex1017, you can use it also...
[04:33] <alex1017> ok i'm there
[04:33] <gulzar> alex1017, but disk-utility is preinstalled in ubuntu
[04:34] <gulzar> alex1017, if disk-utility is not there then install it with software center
[04:34] <gulzar> alex1017, very small and very handy
[04:34] <alex1017> how do i get to software center?
[04:35] <alex1017> btw i SUPER appreciate this!
[04:35] <Anom01y> hi, I am trying add a printer with Ubuntu 10.04, and the computer doesn't even recognize the thing is plugged in
[04:35] <Anom01y> usually when I plug in a new printer, Ubuntu detects it,
[04:35] <gulzar> alex1017, it is called software-manager
[04:35] <Anom01y> the printer is a Brother msg ChanServ ACCESS #roomname ADD username +votiA
[04:35] <Anom01y> er
[04:36]  * gulzar banging head
[04:36] <Anom01y> the printer is a brother dcp-7065DN
[04:36] <alex1017> is it a menu option on the computer, or a website?
[04:36] <Anom01y> ubuntu doesn't detect when it is plugged in ?
[04:36] <gulzar> alex1017, wait
[04:36] <Anom01y> should ubuntu detect every printer or is there some exceptions ??!?
[04:36] <RealKillaz> Hi there anyone here knows how to make NetFlix work on Ubuntu?
[04:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> !enter Anom01y
[04:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> er
[04:36] <solid_liq> anyone know if anyone has created a decent GUI based video transcoding app for Linux yet?
[04:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> !enter | Anom01y
[04:37] <xangua> !printer | Anom01y
[04:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> RealKillaz:  run Windows in a virtual environment?
[04:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> :P
[04:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> woah lag
[04:37] <RealKillaz> TheEvilPhoenix, waw....
[04:37] <gulzar> alex1017, type this in terminal - sudo apt-get install gnome-disk-utility
[04:37] <gulzar> alex1017, done?
[04:37] <alex1017> ok got it
[04:38] <gulzar> alex1017, installed?
[04:38] <TheEvilPhoenix> RealKillaz:  i havent found a way to make it work in linux.  Short of running IE8 or something in Wine, with Silverlight... which only works 15% of the time
[04:39] <RealKillaz> TheEvilPhoenix, I still can not imagine such a service will not work on a Linux OS. I mean is it so difficult for them?
[04:39] <TheEvilPhoenix> RealKillaz:  they use Silverlight
[04:39] <TheEvilPhoenix> its a MS-only product
[04:40] <RealKillaz> TheEvilPhoenix, the fact they use SilverLight. I already think the service sucks without even watching one single movie!!
[04:40] <gulzar> alex1017, done?
[04:40] <alex1017> gulzar, it said it couldnt find package, but i am looking at something on disk usage analyzer that might help?
[04:41] <gulzar> alex1017, you can use it
[04:41] <RealKillaz> TheEvilPhoenix, I heard it is working on ChromeOS
[04:41] <RealKillaz> TheEvilPhoenix, and Mac
[04:41] <gulzar> alex1017, so how big is your root partition and how big is your home partition?
[04:41] <alex1017> it say "/" is 100% full at 2.9, which looks wrong
[04:42] <RealKillaz> TheEvilPhoenix,  ChromeOS is a linux variant....
[04:42] <RealKillaz> linux distro
[04:42] <gulzar> alex1017, disk analyzer can do that work but for me it is confusing.. so finallly what is the result
[04:42] <alex1017> home is 7.2% full
[04:42] <gulzar> alex1017, no its not wrong
[04:42] <gulzar> alex1017, buddy .. you made wrong partitions.. but don't worry
[04:43] <alex1017> lol ty!!
[04:43] <alex1017> "God is my co-pilot" lol
[04:43] <SinnerNyx> if have to hard boot my machine, grub doesn't automatically go to the first option as usual.. how do i fix this?
[04:43] <gulzar> alex1017,  try this - sudo apt-get install bleachbit
[04:43] <alex1017> ok, on it
[04:44] <SinnerNyx> sorry that's not clear. let me try again.
[04:44] <alex1017> damn, it says it cant find that either
[04:44] <matrillox> any 11.10 Server users here?
[04:44] <gulzar> alex1017, you should have made / to be atleast 5GB for normal functioning and 8GB for such upgrades
[04:44] <SinnerNyx> if i have to hard boot my machine, the next time I boot grub doesn't automatically boot the default system after a 3-second timeout. how would I make it ignore the state of the last boot and just use the default boot line?
[04:44] <SinnerNyx> ya matrillox
[04:45] <gulzar> alex1017, Ok on which system are you?
[04:45] <matrillox> having an issue after applying the most recent patches via apt-get update, upgrade.
[04:45] <urlin2u> SinnerNyx, what is the default, and what is it actually booting to?
[04:45] <gulzar> alex1017, which version ?
[04:45] <gulzar> alex1017, how big is your hard disk?
[04:46] <SinnerNyx> urlin2u, I'm using Ubuntu 11.10 server. The rest are all recovery options
[04:46] <MrPocketz> Man. Ubuntus acting wicked lame. Hanging and freezing wayyyy laggy
[04:46] <jakes> guys anyone tell me how to install backtrack 5 menu in ubuntu plz
[04:46] <MrPocketz> heat issue me thnks
[04:46] <gulzar> alex1017, there?
[04:46] <SinnerNyx> essentially this is a headless VM, and I need to know that it will always attempt to boot regularly, so that it gets to the point that the ssh server becomes available.
[04:46] <alex1017> yes...
[04:47] <alex1017> i think it says i have 6.8 G space
[04:47] <SinnerNyx> matrillox, you'll have to be more specific
[04:47] <gulzar> MrPocketz, using Unity?
[04:47] <matrillox> eth0 is not coming online during boot. only an ifdown then ifup at the console brings eth0 up.
[04:47] <urlin2u> jakes, not in the repos I sure you will have to look for a download of it on the web, why would you want it?
[04:47] <SinnerNyx> matrillox: what issue, is this a clean install? did you install any non-default packages?
[04:47] <gulzar> alex1017, ummm which ubuntu version you are using?
[04:47] <urlin2u> SinnerNyx, I'm not familiar with servers sorry.
[04:47] <MrPocketz> yeah, i jsut noticed the PSU fan isn't spining..
[04:47] <alex1017> let me look
[04:47] <MrPocketz> bbl
[04:47] <SinnerNyx> urlin2u, i dont think its any different from regular ubuntu
[04:48] <SinnerNyx> if i have a regular ubuntu and i do a hard boot, i believe grub wont autoboot the default system
[04:48] <urlin2u> SinnerNyx, sudo update grub will reload it posssibly if you have changed ut.
[04:48] <urlin2u> sudo update-grub *
[04:48] <SinnerNyx> thats fair, just not sure what to change in the grub config. thanks for the pointer though urlin2u
[04:48] <barberdt> SinnerNyx: not sure how much help this will be, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[04:49] <barberdt> worth a peak though
[04:49] <barberdt> peek*
[04:49] <SinnerNyx> barberdt: thx. i am looking through it as we speak
[04:49] <barberdt> SinnerNyx: sounds good
[04:49] <alex1017> gulzar, how do i find out which version?  (sorry)
[04:49] <alex1017> this ubuntu came preloaded on a Dell mini 9
[04:50] <gulzar> alex1017, I mean which ubuntu is it? 11.04 , 11.10 or  10.04
[04:50] <gulzar> alex1017, OK
[04:50] <being> hello
[04:50] <alex1017> i'm used to windows :S
[04:50] <xangua> alex1017: lsb_release -a
[04:50] <gulzar> alex1017, no probleam
[04:50] <gulzar> alex1017, open third menu
[04:51] <gulzar> alex1017, systems
[04:51] <alex1017> omg, it says 8.0.4....
[04:51] <barberdt> ouch ^^
[04:51] <gulzar> alex1017, what????????
[04:52] <alex1017> pretty f***** lame, huh?
[04:52] <gulzar> alex1017, when did you bought that lappy?
[04:52] <alex1017> about 2 years agi
[04:52] <alex1017> ago*
[04:52] <gulzar> alex1017, then also open the third menu from left on the top bar
[04:52] <gulzar> alex1017,  and search for synaptic
[04:52] <barberdt> two years should still be at least 9.x
[04:53] <gulzar> alex1017, you sould give these informations before
[04:53] <alex1017> sorry :(
[04:53] <gulzar> barberdt, ya it should but its not
[04:53] <alex1017> i'm sorry and embarrassed, guys
[04:53] <gulzar> alex1017, the only option is download the latest version 11.10 and install it .. You have no option left. 8.0 is over
[04:53] <barberdt> alex1017: never be embarassed
[04:54] <barberdt> that's what these places are for
[04:54] <gulzar> alex1017, or try 10.04 it is long term editions
[04:54] <gulzar> barberdt, I can't believe they ship that old verison
[04:55] <barberdt> I wasn't aware Dell was even shipping with ubuntu as an option back then
[04:55] <gulzar> barberdt, yes DELL WAS but not now... I think they are drooping support for Linux. Very less options are there from the
[04:55] <alex1017> ok, thats what i'll do, research how to get the new OS,.......  you guys are totally great -- especially you, gulzar
[04:55] <gulzar> alex1017, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[04:56] <gulzar> alex1017, mention not ;)
[04:56] <SinnerNyx> is it possible to boot without grub?
[04:56] <alex1017> ;)
[04:56] <gulzar> alex1017, Linux is community where everybody have equal rights and equal freedom
[04:56] <barberdt> gulzar: I'm not too worried. I've stayed away from Dell hardware for some time now.
[04:57] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, yes with Lilo
[04:57] <barberdt> perfectly comfy with my thinkpad :P
[04:57] <gulzar> alex1017, follow the link
[04:57] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, what is your requirement?
[04:57] <SinnerNyx> gulzar Lilo is another bootloader? I don't want anything possibly holding up my computer on boot. I want it to just go directly to booting Ubuntu Server 11.10
[04:57] <alex1017> i will, gulzar....  10 pm here, gotta call it a night....  so i'll tackle tomorrow....  onward and upward....  again, thanks, and take care!!
[04:58] <barberdt> SinnerNyx: what I'm confused about is that, if it's 11.10 and there's only one system on disk, it should be bypassing grub alltogether, right?
[04:58] <alex1017> linux forever!
[04:58] <barberdt> or is that not the case on server edition...
[04:58] <gulzar> alex1017, urwelcome
[04:58] <barberdt> i'm running 11.10 desktop ed. alone on disk, and i never see grub on boot
[04:58] <SinnerNyx> barberdt: all the server editions i've installed have come with a grub bootloader with recovery options. I haven't installed the regular ubuntu package in a while
[04:59] <barberdt> SinnerNyx: I don't doubt that grub is there, it just says "hey, only one choice here, so no need for me to show myself"
[04:59] <barberdt> SinnerNyx: but I guess that makes sense that it would show with recovery options when you hard boot
[04:59] <Madpilot> barberdt, it might not be pausing on grub - my single-OS system doesn't really - but it's there somewhere
[04:59] <gulzar> barberdt, SinnerNyx yes you can hide the boot menu and boot directly
[04:59] <SinnerNyx> barberdt: exactly. those recovery options are listed a seperate boot options
[05:00] <SinnerNyx> gulzar: sweet, so where do i start?
[05:01] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, wait.....
[05:01] <somethinginteres> trying to update Ubuntu 11.10 and install some applications. I often get a "this requires installation of untrusted packages" error. Help?
[05:02] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, install grub-customizer and use it to hide unwanted entries and menu
[05:02] <SinnerNyx> gulzar thats not a GUI thing is it?
[05:03] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, it is....
[05:03] <barberdt> somethinginteres: a little old, but should still be applicable > http://jaypeeonline.net/tips-tricks/requires-installation-of-untrusted-packages-error/
[05:03] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, there are options wait...I will pastebin
[05:03] <SinnerNyx> gulzar: sweet thx alot. much appreciated :)
[05:04] <somethinginteres> barberdt: will try that. Seems strange to need the Source Code but thanks
[05:05] <barberdt> somethinginteres: How strange it is I guess depends on what packages you are trying to install.
[05:05] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, edit this file /boot/grub/grub.conf
[05:06] <gh0st> if I'm an apple user migrating to a linux distro what's the best one that I might be most "at home" with?
[05:06] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, Remove (or comment out) the hiddenmenu line.
[05:06] <somethinginteres> barberdt: fair point. :)
[05:06] <TheEvilPhoenix> how can i disable the boot splash and display kernel informational messages on boot?
[05:06] <TheEvilPhoenix> i.e see what's output into tty1 / bootconsole
[05:07] <xangua> gh0st: if you ask in ubuntu, what answer do you expect¿
[05:07] <gh0st> I guess ubuntu
[05:07] <SinnerNyx> gulzar: do you mean /etc/default/grub.conf?
[05:07] <SinnerNyx> no grub.conf where you described
[05:07] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, grub.conf
[05:08] <futureleader> hey guys how do I adjust screen brightness?
[05:08] <cjs226> I've run "/etc/init.d# update-rc.d myprocess_stop stop 1 0 1 6 ." which adds the appropriate links to /etc/rc0.d rc1.d and rc6.d.  however the scripts are called until AFTER a reboot.  any ideas?
[05:08] <gulzar> SinnerNyx,  try this also /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:08] <gh0st> is there a way to get the interface to resemble mac osx as close as possible?
[05:08] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, depending on your grub
[05:08] <xangua> futureleader: tried energy settings¿
[05:08] <gulzar> gh0st, try macubuntu
[05:08] <futureleader> energy settings?
[05:08] <SinnerNyx> ok grub.cfg it is gulzar
[05:08] <futureleader> power settings doen't have it
[05:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> SinnerNyx:  do NOT edit that file.  instead, edit /etc/default/grub
[05:08] <TheEvilPhoenix> SinnerNyx:  its just "grub" in /etc/default
[05:09] <TheEvilPhoenix> not grub.conf
[05:09] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, yes it is
[05:09]  * SinnerNyx cringes :(
[05:09] <futureleader> Is there like a slider bar so that I can adjust brightness
[05:09] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, so you are using grub2
[05:09] <futureleader> Programme that can do it?
[05:09] <SinnerNyx> yes as that appears to come with ubuntu server gulzar
[05:09] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, comment out GRUB_TIMEOUT
[05:09] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, and do update-grub
[05:10] <q0_0p> can anyone help me get my touchpad scroll working?
[05:10] <barberdt> q0_0p: what's not working about it?
[05:10] <q0_0p> touchpad clicks moves works just scroll is having problems
[05:10] <Abhijit> some time ago i printed a document to file in firefox. and now i dont remember its name. is there any way i can find that file?
[05:10] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, or try to change its value to 0 from 10 or 5
[05:10] <q0_0p> barberdt, touchpad scroll
[05:10] <barberdt> q0_0p: have you already looked at the system settings menu for the touchpad?
[05:10] <q0_0p> barberdt, i notice in the mouse options there is no option for touchpad
[05:10] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, try both the methods and remmeber to do gub-update
[05:10] <SinnerNyx> gulzar: you're describing /etc/default/grub.conf. grub.cfg is a source code file
[05:10] <q0_0p> barberdt, corrrect i've gone there but no tab for touchpad
[05:10] <barberdt> q0_0p: no touchpad options at all?
[05:10] <futureleader> gulzar: IS there a way to adjust screen brightness?
[05:10] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, *updat-grub
[05:11] <ejnahc> First sorry for bad english. I'm using ubuntu 11.10, when I using gedit, text selection works fine when starts, but sometimes text selection doesn't work. so everytime I suffer that bug, I restart gedit, then works fine. It's too annoying. How can I fix it? please help. thanks.
[05:11] <q0_0p> barberdt, correct
[05:11] <barberdt> q0_0p: and you are using a laptop with a built-in toucpad I am assuming?
[05:11] <q0_0p> barberdt, yes laptop with built in touchpad correct
[05:12] <barberdt> q0_0p: hmm. to me, that sounds like a driver issue potentially? Beyond that, I am unsure though. Perhaps somebody else who is more in touch with the hardware side of things in here may be off assistance.
[05:12] <Abhijit> some time ago i printed a document to file in firefox. and now i dont remember its name. is there any way i can find that file?
[05:12] <q0_0p> barberdt, i appreciate the help
[05:12] <futureleader> HEy ppl pls Can I adjust the screen brigtness
[05:12] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, sorry ..... my mistake edit that file with this command
[05:12] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, you need to edit grub with special command
[05:12] <barberdt> q0_0p: np
[05:13] <SinnerNyx> gulzar: yep i've already editted it and run update-grub
[05:13] <chandru_in> Gskellig, I got the battery estimation fixed. "gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power use-time-for-policy false" did it.
[05:13] <Gskellig> thats it!?
[05:13] <q0_0p> i have xserver-xorg-input-synaptics instsalled, i'm guessing that is the default
[05:13] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, fantastic... but it needs ..umm wait
[05:13] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, don't restart
[05:13] <q0_0p> i know scroll does work on ubuntu 11
[05:14] <Gskellig> chandru_in, is that permanent?
[05:14] <q0_0p> but currently I'm using LTS version
[05:14] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, the file to edit is in /etc/default
[05:14] <q0_0p> im thinking maybe if i get the development version of synaptics?
[05:14] <Gskellig> chandru_in, do you know if that fixes the hibernation too?
[05:14] <SinnerNyx> lol ever watch those movies where someone has a command line and is about to press enter when someone runs into the room and shouts "WAIT!!!".. gulzar just IRC shouted "WAIT!!!" to me :p
[05:14] <chandru_in> Gskellig, yes. It continues to give wrong estimates of time left. But it doesn't trigger the critical level action
[05:14] <SinnerNyx> gulzar, yep as stated i've already done that
[05:14] <Gskellig> ah
[05:15] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, edit it there and then run update-grub
[05:15] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, or else there will be a problem
[05:15] <chandru_in> Gskellig, It says 2 hrs left then 2 mins left then back to 1:45 left. But since % left works fine, it uses this now for determining critical level
[05:16] <SinnerNyx> gulzar: yep.. already did :S
[05:16] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, I usually use gui and refer to /boot so was little confused. But remember edit it from /etc/default
[05:16] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, Ok do it. no problem if you edit that file. Once you edit it in /etc/default adn run update everything will be in posiotn
[05:16] <SinnerNyx> gulzar: you reading this?
[05:16] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, nbow happily check
[05:16] <SinnerNyx> kk
[05:17] <gulzar> SinnerNyx, restart and pray
[05:17] <barberdt> if I had a nickel for every time ... ^^
[05:17] <q0_0p> i think it seems the laptop as a N: Name="PS/2 Generic Mouse"
 using what gnome3 or gnome2
[05:20] <arooni-mobile> why do i have to click activate on tray icon apps like skype
[05:20] <rootuser777> how i disable screen going to darker in ocelot after 5sec
[05:23] <jesus> hioty hioty
[05:24] <Guest21929> jajaajajajajja
[05:24] <Guest21929> apoco
[05:25] <meta-coder> Something wrong with the Floodbots?
[05:25] <syn-ack> Good evening, folks
[05:26] <Axsuul> how come sometimes Ctrl+C doesn't end the program that is currently running in terminal. For example, I will see ^C. However, Ctrl+Z will suspend the program but the process seems to still be alive
[05:27] <Guest21929> guest
[05:28] <jamesripley> anyone here works with video? its more a design question than tecnical... what software could help me make a movie like this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=38O7HvbzG90 (talking about the concept, the small complexity animations and style)
[05:29] <Guest21929> entra aqui http://www.muyzorras.com
[05:29] <rudra> how can i download the whole ftp using wget?
[05:36] <oxi> hola
[05:37] <ActionParsnip> Oxi: howdy
[05:37] <oxi> hia all
[05:37] <oxi> i need  help with iptables
[05:38] <oxi>  can anyone help me
[05:38] <oxi> ?
[05:39] <suzanne_> hi
[05:39] <odin_> hi, I have intalled both amd64 and i686, hthe amd64 has 36198 items in Ubuntu Software Centre, but i686 only has 2497 items, if there something I forgot that I ticked?
[05:39] <ActionParsnip> I appear to be the only person not asleep and I'm not good at iptables. Have you tried firestarter or is it a server install?
[05:40] <oxi> hi
[05:40] <tripelb> Hello. I have a MacBook now. I have a copy of the ubuntu.iso on the hard drive. I have a 2G emplty "flash drive" SD card. I'd like instructions for making the boot from all this. The sitespages I found were from 2008. Something more current SVP
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> Odin: make sure you enable the same software sources in both
[05:41] <oxi> no is only for my system
[05:41] <oxi> i have iptables configured
[05:41] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: use unetbootin. Be sure you MD5 test the ISO you have
[05:41] <tripelb> except I dont have the ubuntu.iso so I'll have to get one. The newest I've used is the LTS 10,04 is the USB install the same for natty?
[05:42] <tripelb> hi action.
[05:42] <odin_> ActionParsnip,   enable ?  I did an standard install, I don't remember any tickbox or setting to show packages, I only installed amd64 around 6 hours ago (so I don't think my memory is that bad)
[05:42] <pnorman> tripelb: I don't think anything with Disk Utility on OS X has changed in the last few years
[05:42] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: same method, different file
[05:43] <odin_> ActionParsnip, I have allowed it to do software update and reboot and now I am looking for packages like "joe" and "build-essentials" in Ubuntu Software Centre, these packages are available from command like with "apt-cache show"
[05:43] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, I use unetbootin - is that a mac program?  (Carlfk said that I could just DD it. But I dont know what DD is.
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> odin_: in software centre you can enable software sources like the partner source a
[05:43] <ActionParsnip> And so on
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: its available for Mac
[05:44] <tripelb> OK I iwll go to get unetbootin.  ActionParsnip pnorman - should I get natty or the 10.04 lts.
[05:44] <CarlFK> tripelb: dd is a command - open a terminal and see if you have it
[05:44] <tigranes> Hi! When I run 'glxinfo' on my ThinkPad with Intel 4500 video card, I get an error "X Error of failed request:  BadRequest". Does anybody have any ideas what's going on?
[05:44] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: I'm not sure the ubuntu ISO will work with dd
[05:44] <infinii> ffs, I spent an entire night only to figure out that there's a bug ubuntu's system update that removes grub-efi and replaces it with grub/grub-pc. I hate this EFI stuff, I can't my computer to dual boot
[05:45] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: both are fine. I would suggest the latest.
[05:45] <pnorman> tripelb: depends which you want to install. my server uses natty.
[05:46] <tripelb> CarlFK, hi. Mac has a terminal. that's cool. seems to have info dd. I typed dd and it just sat there. So I closed the terminal. looks good
[05:46] <ActionParsnip> !md5 | tripelb
[05:46] <odin_> sorry I still don't understand, all the software I want is on Ubuntu source and the setting for sources between systems is identical (in Systems Settings -> Software Sources)
[05:46] <pnorman> OS X does have dd on 10.3.9.  It's the BSD version, not sure if there's any syntax differences there
[05:46] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, I've used md5 before on a windows machine.
[05:46] <oxi> ok
[05:47] <oxi> ok
[05:47] <odin_> I tried "apt-get update" thinking it would download things and refresh but no change in Ubuntu Software Centre
[05:47] <ActionParsnip> tripelb: just covering all bases :-)
[05:47] <oxi> no funciona  nada funciona estoy cansado tor not woking  iptables not working nada is working
[05:47] <tripelb> ActionParsnip, I appreciate it. and yet, I feel good about saying, I got chops. Heh. I used it to identify a badly burned cd once.
[05:48] <tripelb> ok bbs.
[05:48] <ActionParsnip> Odin: apt-get update will read the enabled repos and update the systems knowledge of what is on each
[05:49] <odin_> yes and the packages I can see from command line "apt-cache show ...." but the GUI only has 2497 items  (not 36198 items)
[05:51] <tripelb> from Where is the fastest  Natty download?
[05:51] <infinii> probably torrent
[05:51] <tripelb> from Where is the fastest  Natty download? is it torrent or direct. I have hella speed.
[05:51] <dnlsrl> Good evening, I'm israel. Is there any online user manual for the Recoveru console of Ubuntu??
[05:52] <tripelb> kk infiniii
[05:52] <urlin2u> tripelb, ubuntu.com will get you the http or torrent link
[05:52] <oxi> http is better
[05:52] <infinii> oxi: why?
[05:52] <tripelb> oxi because?
[05:53] <bindi> because trollsols
[05:53] <bindi> trollslols even
[05:53] <dnlsrl> ¿?
[05:53] <infinii> why would you suckup ubuntu bandwidth when there is a torrent available?
[05:53] <dnlsrl> Is this a support channel?
[05:53] <oxi> almost all my torrent downloads (iso) are  damaged
[05:53] <infinii> dnlsrl: yes it is. but it's not a channel where we sit in here waiting for ppl to come in just so we can google it for you
[05:53] <tripelb> I asked which was faster, what would serve ME, not what would have me cater to Ubuntu. That bandwidth is just for this purpose. A user using it.
[05:53] <SwedeMike> tripelb: you should look where your closest or best mirror is and download from there
[05:53] <infinii> oxi: sux2bu
[05:54] <dnlsrl> so rough
[05:54] <dnlsrl> I asked 'cause i can't find it :(
[05:54] <tripelb> SwedeMike, I've heard that a lot but I'm in SoCal but I ususally use Belgium or netherlands or germany
[05:55] <urlin2u> tripelb, http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[05:55] <SwedeMike> tripelb: why?
[05:59] <tripelb> I'll have it in 10 minutes. I LIVE IN THE FUTURE.
[06:00] <bindi> floodbots going crazy
[06:00] <dnlsrl> Ok, I got an Ubuntu 11.10 PC, and I activated the additional drivers of NVidia. But it makes my PC get stuck at the logon screen. Is there any way to disable this software using the Recovery console??? (Sorry for my English)
[06:02] <dnlsrl> I tried using Remote Session, but obviously it didn't work :(
[06:03] <suzanne_> does anyone know about hackintsh ?
[06:03] <dnlsrl> Hello? Can someone help me?
[06:04] <tripelb> suzanne_,  this is an ubuntu channel. hackintosh is PC and uses the regular ubuntu
[06:05] <tripelb> suzanne_, I am on a mac now. I'm intending to make a bootable SD card.
[06:05] <infinii> tripelb: from an iso?
[06:05] <nnull> whats that program that helps people install to a usb drive again?
[06:05] <wckd> nnull: try google
[06:06] <dnlsrl> If nobody knows, just say it :(
[06:06] <iceroot> !google | wckd
[06:06] <iceroot> !usb | nnull
[06:06] <tripelb> SwedeMike, sorry I didnt see you asked why I used western europe. becasuse I found it fast. It's been a couple of years though.
[06:07] <infinii> tripelb: http://www.proposedsolution.com/howto/howto-macosx/create-bootable-usb-thumb-drive-iso/
[06:07] <nnull> ill just ask software centre lol
[06:07] <nnull> theres only1 or 2
[06:07] <tripelb> infinii BTW I used a torrent because it's distributed so I thought, that's faster. And now I understand what you meant about ubuntu bandwidth. Thanks.
[06:07] <dnlsrl> Please, anybody help me!
[06:08] <nnull> answer: unetbootin
[06:08] <nnull> kthx gais
[06:08] <infinii> tripelb: i don't think you and I disagreed to begin with. I suggested torrent for that same reason. and regarding ubuntu b/w, well I don't see need for people to stress their servers when torrents/mirrors are readily available.
[06:10] <gartuz> hola
[06:10] <suzanne_> tripelb,  i know that i ask here as a point of interest and a starter point for something i know so litte about ,which as is macs in general
[06:10] <dnlsrl> gartuz pierdes tu tiempo, aquí no ayudan en nada. Solo te ignoran y te dicen que lo puedes buscar en Google
[06:11] <gartuz> Si yo quisiera crear una consola de video Juego a partir de Ubuntu podria licenciar o usar imagenes con derechos de autor_
[06:11] <gartuz> ?
[06:12] <wzssyqa> hello everyone
[06:12] <urlin2u> !es | gartuz
[06:13] <gartuz> gracias
[06:13] <suzanne_> infinii,  you make a very fine point, just note to all the the check sum  is need to do its job,(asumming all info is already known)
[06:13] <gartuz> Thank you
[06:14] <urlin2u> gartuz, no problem. :D
[06:14] <Engonyr> Where can I suggest a feature/improvement to Ubuntu 11.10?
[06:14] <infinii> feature? 11.10 is released already
[06:15] <zl> wzssyqa: hi
[06:16] <suzanne_> tripelb,  i ask be cuz i may need to know about a long list of stuff i  might need but there ,as you say windows only  , which i ask for the linux version of them , and a dual boot
[06:17] <KSHawkEye> Hey, I'm trying to create an ISO that has a few programs on it, and make it where the programs are excuteable from the disc but keep running into issues with permissions. Does anyone know how to do this?
[06:18] <infinii> KSHawkEye: have u tried googling for guides on how to create a livecd?
[06:18] <RussianPower> KSHwakEye, hit your computer!
[06:19] <tripelb> OOPS I have a 64bit computer will the 32 work on it?
[06:19] <suzanne_> KSHawkEye,  yes this channel has those ppl but if they are online are in question
[06:19] <PolishPower> KSHwakEye where are you from ? :D Maybe I will go to you and I help :D
[06:19] <Newbeeans> Is Nataulis important?
[06:19] <RussianPower> tripelb, yes
[06:20] <suzanne_> tripelb,  in most cases yes ,  so what you running?
[06:20] <PolishPower> suzanne :P :P:P
[06:20] <RussianPower> Can i run ubuntu at Pentium 66MHz?
[06:21] <infinii> why not?
[06:21] <suzanne_> Newbeeans,  ?  huh what you need that for , and yes , but depends on what you use it for.
[06:21] <tripelb> suzanne_, I am on a macbook I want to put the system on an SD card. I will boot on that and then be able to access my USB kit with my old HD on it. I can only see the Windows partition from the Mac OS
[06:21] <infinii> it was created on much slower
[06:21] <lsd_> hi there
[06:21] <tripelb> suzanne_,  tripleb is also a woman. heh
[06:21] <infinii> tripelb: put what system? the mac?
[06:22] <Newbeeans> How do I know which video card driver is best for me? Hardware GUI gives 3 choices.
[06:22] <pnorman> tripelb: That seems like a round a bout way to access a partition
[06:22] <tripelb> I want to put Ubuntu on the SD card. I just downloaded it. the outboard drive was the one I used to run Ubuntu 10.04 on my old computer that does not work.
[06:23] <tripelb> Well pnorman if I had any other way to access it. ...
[06:23] <futureleader> I need to know how to adjust screen brightness
[06:23] <dnlsrl> Hello, can someone help me?
[06:23] <infinii> tripelb: so install the livecd iso you downloaded to usb, boot with it, then mount the drive you want.
[06:23] <infinii> tripelb: i already gave you a link for how to create the bootable usb
[06:24] <tripelb> pnorman, it's my 1T drive while this one is a 0.072T drive. hahaHA
[06:24] <Newbeeans> infinii: Should I pick recommended driver with hardware gui for Nvidia GPU?
[06:24] <tripelb> right infinii. now that I have the .iso Ill go up there and find out what you told me to use and get that too. I'm ready now.
[06:25] <infinii> Newbeeans: sorry I have no idea. I have a radeon and didn't need to select any driver when installing 11.10
[06:26] <dnlsrl> Newbeeans: Your graphic card is nvidia??? Was it included by default?
[06:26] <Newbeeans> Ohhh no I'm not going to 11.10 again
[06:26] <Newbeeans> dnlsrl: it popped up in the hardware drivers box asking me to activate one
[06:26] <htmlinprogress> RussianPower,  umm  yes and no    you must streamline the os for it to be of any use,,,,, think of youtube  its GONIG to give you the finger cuz its way slow,  try xubuntu  or lubuntu  and the strip the gui down and all apps with the counterparts for older and slower computers
[06:27] <Newbeeans> I chose recommended but i'm afraid to restart because I've been getting "low resolution" errors.
[06:27] <htmlinprogress> tripelb,  no i forgot to get a diiferent name , im a guy
[06:28] <dnlsrl> Newbeeans: I recommend you not to click anything there. I just got that problem. Now i don't know how to deactivate it from the Recovery console :(
[06:28] <Newbeeans> dnlsrl: I had to start over :(
[06:28] <Newbeeans> twice
[06:30] <dnlsrl> Newbeeans: I jusk asked how to fix it, but the only thing they're saying is that i should google it =/
[06:31] <Newbeeans> I can't find a solution on google...looking since Thursday
[06:31] <htmlinprogress> Newbeeans,  down touch nothing  but the irc line,,,  cuz
[06:31] <Newbeeans> So I wait for advice :))
[06:31] <qrwteyrutiyoup> maybe this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1119036
[06:32] <fargo> HEY CAN ANY ONE HELP ME WRITE THE CODE FOR PPP
[06:33] <fargo>  HEY CAN ANY ONE HELP ME WRITE THE CODE FOR PPP
[06:33] <fargo>  HEY CAN ANY ONE HELP ME WRITE THE CODE FOR PPP
[06:33] <FloodBot1> fargo: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:33] <ultrixx> what?
[06:33] <Newbeeans> qrwteyrutiyoup: thank you for the link :) How do I find my driver version?
[06:34] <fargo> PLS HELP ME
[06:34] <Newbeeans> so I can change xxx to my video card
[06:34] <ultrixx> fargo: what do you mean?
[06:34] <fargo> I AM TO CREATE A PPP CODE
[06:34] <ultrixx> what is a ppp code?
[06:35] <fargo> I WANT TO KNOW THE STEPS
[06:35] <htmlinprogress> Newbeeans,  i tell you this cuz you need a back up  in caase you get a boot error   like a ubuntu flash drive  , ubcd    cd/dvd of your distro, a few  more others,, just in case of a mess up,,, its saved my computer alot
[06:35] <fargo> SERIAL COMMUNICATION LINK TO HELP CONNECT MY PC TO ISP
[06:36] <infinii> fargo: PPP is old and standard, I used it with modems like 15yrs ago. no need to write the code for it
[06:36] <infinii> PPOE lolz
[06:36] <fargo> NO ACTUALLY I WANT TO WRITE IT TO MY EMBEDED BOARD. NOT FOR MY PC
[06:36] <infinii> someone ban him for caps please
[06:37] <dnlsrl> htmlinprogress: Ok, let's suppose I comitted the error in not backing up my system. How can i use a Recovery console to deactivate restricted drivers?
[06:37] <infinii> fargo: that's a programming question. this is a channel for ubuntu linux
[06:37] <fargo> OK
[06:37] <Newbeeans> htmlinprogress: I have the distro cd but it hasnt helped me yet
[06:37] <Newbeeans> :))
[06:38] <infinii> dnlsrl: maybe you could boot livecd. mount your partitions, use chroot. then update your configuration to not use the bad drivers
[06:38] <ultrixx> fargo: why don't you just have a look at the ubuntu sources? ubuntu has got ppp support built in
[06:38] <dnlsrl> infinni: thanks
[06:38] <fargo> INFINII ACTUALLY I M NEW IN UBUNTU HENCE WANT TO KNOW HOW TO CREATE A CYCLIC MAKE FILE. CN I ASK>?
[06:39] <Newbeeans> dnlsrl: if you understood that my hats off to you ;)
[06:39] <Stanley00> fargo: please dont use ALL CAPS here, thanks.
[06:39] <fargo> ok
[06:39] <fargo> sorry stanley
[06:39] <qrwteyrutiyoup> Newbeeans, try something like "dpkg -l | grep nvidia-glx" to find out the version of nvidia-glx, if it's installed
[06:39] <infinii> fargo: unlikely cuz ur on my ignore list now
[06:40] <Newbeeans> qrwteyrutiyoup: ok brb
[06:40] <fargo> :(
[06:40] <RussianPower> my mom change root pass and i can't login! What should i do?
[06:40] <dnlsrl> Newbeeans: Haha, well it's not that I understood it. It's that I just got keywords for better searching. Tht's why I'm importing the whole conversation to a txt file :P
[06:41] <ultrixx> RussianPower: obey your mom
[06:41] <Newbeeans> qrwteyrutiyoup: no such file or directory
[06:41] <infinii> RussianPower: don't give your mom root password or a sudo acct
[06:41] <qrwteyrutiyoup> dpkg?
[06:41] <TheEvilPhoenix> RussianPower:  what ultrixx said, and also don't use root to do stuff
[06:41] <Newbeeans> let me check my typos :)
[06:41] <PolishPower> I need your help guys !!! My husband escape and leave me linux without instruction ;/ Where i can run internet communicator and configurate it :D
[06:42] <Newbeeans> That time it went back to command nothing happened
[06:42] <dnlsrl> PolishPower: communicator??
[06:43] <fargo> what should i do if i copy a system driver into another desktop and want to run it der
[06:43] <dnlsrl> Polishpower: You mean a VoIP client? Like Skype?
[06:43] <HansLanda> anyone can help me? cant find wlan0!!!
[06:43] <PolishPower> dnlsrl yeah that's right :D
[06:43] <Bazinga> Why can't i copy 4GB file to partition where i have 3GB free
[06:44] <HansLanda> Ubuntu 11.04 - dell laptop - anyone can help me? cant find wlan0!!!
[06:45] <qrwteyrutiyoup> in my dell it's "eth1", HansLanda
[06:45] <dnlsrl> PolishPower: You can get skype from the Software Centre of Ubuntu
[06:45] <ultrixx> fargo: drivers are part of the kernel or are kernel modules. you can't just run them
[06:45] <fargo> wher shal i find my installed aplications
[06:45] <Bazinga> PolishPower: go out and never back
[06:45] <HansLanda> qrwteyrutiyoup thanks...i will try to find eth1
[06:46] <fargo> ok but cnt i link them to kernel externally
[06:46] <PolishPower> dnlsrl thx you are  very helpfull to me :*
[06:46] <qrwteyrutiyoup> how are you "trying to find" it, HansLanda?
[06:46] <htmlinprogress> HansLanda,  application/accesseries/ open terminal  then type ifconfig
[06:46] <ultrixx> fargo: i suspect you have far too little knowledge about what you are trying to do
[06:46] <Bazinga> Why can't i copy 4GB file to partition where i have 3GB free
[06:47] <fargo> ya u are true ultrix
[06:47] <fargo> but i want to learn linux
[06:47] <dnlsrl> PolishPower: You did understand me, didn't you? Was my answer enough?
[06:47] <Newbeeans> I'm the same fargo but I think I need a class :D
[06:47] <Bazinga> help me! please
[06:48] <fargo> can u sujjest me a good link wher i can learn linux
[06:48] <Newbeeans> Bazinga: Do you mean you have 4GB free?
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> fargo: help.ubuntu.com ?
[06:48] <fargo> thanks
[06:48] <Bazinga> i go jumping from bridge
[06:48] <Bazinga> that is joke :P
[06:49] <Newbeeans> Don't forget clean undies Bazinga :))
[06:49] <Bazinga> ok :)
[06:49] <PolishPower> bazinga you must delete some files because you file have is to big (you have only 3GB free, file have 4GB)
[06:49] <Bazinga> bye
[06:49] <fargo> wher cn i learn to create device drivers
[06:49] <fargo> complex 1
[06:50] <dnlsrl> fargo: Linux has a lot of distros.
[06:50] <fargo> any link
[06:50] <ultrixx> fargo: get the kernel sources and read them
[06:50] <qrwteyrutiyoup> lol
[06:50] <fargo> wher shal i get these sources
[06:51] <ultrixx> fargo: kernel.org
[06:51] <alaing> hi I've just updated from ubuntu server edtion 11.04 to 11.10 but its broken my wireless connection. How do I reinstall my wifi to get it to work?
[06:51] <htmlinprogress> HansLanda, did that help?
[06:52] <angelete2> hi
[06:52] <fargo> ok guys thanks guys for all ur help
[06:52] <fargo> bye tc
[06:52] <ultrixx> bye
[06:52] <angelete2> i'm getting a problem with my cron on ubuntu server 11.04
[06:52] <ultrixx> have fun
[06:55] <angelete2> my crontab is 47 3    * * 0   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly )
[06:55] <angelete2> but it executes on tuesdays instead of sundays
[06:55] <Newbeeans> I read the help page for Nvidia manual but I didn't see a command to check my GPU card version.
[06:56] <qrwteyrutiyoup> you need the version of the *installed* package to remove, Newbeeans, not your GPU card version. that's why I suggested you to check it with dpkg (it "knows" the packages in your system..)
[06:56] <Bear10> Anyone know where i could find the default color codes for ls? I mean i don't understand what a blue text with green background is heh
[06:57] <Newbeeans> qrwteyrutiyoup: When I typed your command it returned to main@desktop:
[06:57] <Newbeeans> nothing happened
[06:58] <fargo> chat is a program that can perform simple handshaking between a PPP client and server during connection setup, such as exchange usernames and passwords. chat is also responsible for causing your modem to dial the ISP's phone number and other simple tasks.chat itself is automatically invoked by pppd when started .. but i didnt hav any such program loaded in my pc
[06:58] <Stanley00> Bear10: you can try "ls -l" and then look for the file name, you will know what it means... ;)
[06:58] <fargo> wher shal i get it from
[06:58] <qrwteyrutiyoup> Newbeeans, ok, that means that specific package isn't intalled. which likely means that solution won't work for you..
[06:58] <Newbeeans> qrwteyrutiyoup: why would it? hahahahahah
[06:58] <Bear10> Stanley, hmm still not sure lol
[06:59] <Bear10> drwxrwxrwx 2 root root 16384 2011-10-25 08:53 MyDir
[06:59] <Bear10> xd
[06:59] <qrwteyrutiyoup> No idea, Newbeeans ; just tried to point you out to someone having a problem that looked like yours.
[06:59] <Newbeeans> qrwteyrutiyoup: oh don't get me wrong I'm more than happy to take your advice...i'm just disappointed that nothing seems to help.
[07:01] <qrwteyrutiyoup> Have you tried the dpkg-reconfigure command listed at that page, Newbeeans?
[07:01] <Stanley00> Bear10: haha, I confuse too... may be it's just a dir,
[07:01] <Newbeeans> qrwteyrutiyoup: I get information overload...I will try it if it wont hurt
[07:01] <jkfangTW> My totem works fine with gstreamer. But Phonon has problems with gstreamer-backend. How to start to solve this problem.
[07:02] <htmlinprogress> channel for hackintosh?
[07:02] <Stanley00> Bear10: I rarely use color code to identify a file type, just use ls -l.
[07:02] <noiesmo> hi all I did an upgrade to oneiric and I am having trouble getting rid off a sources file in my sources.list.d directory. Everytime I delete it. the sources file comes back
[07:02] <Bear10> alright
[07:02] <Bear10> thanks
[07:02] <qrwteyrutiyoup> And also, try to get more info from the log, like the last post. thet should point you out the actual problem, Newbeeans
[07:07] <angelete2> any idea about cron?
[07:07] <dr_willis> what about cron?
[07:07] <pnorman> I finished a check on my md raid array and it found some mismatches. Is the best thing to do now echoing repair into sync_action on the array?
[07:08] <angelete2> dr_willis: my cron is not executing weekly tasks on the day that are configured
[07:08] <htmlinprogress> DOCTOR IS IN THE HOUSE
[07:08] <angelete2> 47 3    * * 0   root    test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly ) => it MAY execute on sundays, but it execute on tuesdays
[07:09] <dr_willis> htmlinprogress:  actually im at work on my lunch break. ;)
[07:10] <htmlinprogress> how that bonic man going for you ?
[07:10] <SilfenX> I have a number of NTFS drives I d like to make accessible to a group of windows machines using samaba - where in the file system on the serever would it be recommended to mount these ntfs partitions and should their shares be created with root or user?
[07:11] <dr_willis> SilfenX:  i just put mine in /media/ via fstab with the right options for the proper permissions. as root.
[07:12] <htmlinprogress> dr_willis,  hows that bonic man doin?
[07:12] <dr_willis> htmlinprogress:  man? ;)  whats the point of a man....
[07:12] <Newbeeans> I think if the power doesn't go out...I'll be fine with Ubuntu :))
[07:12] <SilfenX> dr_willis: I ve just been through an ordeal here so starting over ^^ no win users were able to connect to the shares - they were visible but no other accounts than admin were able to connect to them from the windows boxes :/
[07:12] <dr_willis> whats up with the floodbots.
[07:13] <dr_willis> SilfenX:  you need the proper options for the mounting of the ntfs.. and proper samba options for the shares
[07:14] <dr_willis> i wonder if askubuntu.com has some info on what options.. i dont rember the ones i used
[07:14] <SilfenX> dr_willis: yes, just need to know where to edit it and what to put in ^^
[07:14] <dr_willis> !fstab
[07:14] <dr_willis> !ntfs
[07:15] <dr_willis> mount via /etc/fstab   share via /etc/samba/smb.conf
[07:16] <dr_willis> lunch over.. bbl
[07:18] <jabbari> help search
[07:18] <HansLanda> anyone can help me?
[07:19] <HansLanda> anyone really know about configuring network names and adapters? ubuntu 11.04
[07:19] <htmlinprogress> what are you try to do?
[07:21] <HansLanda> anyone really know about configuring network names and adapters? ubuntu 11.04
[07:22] <conntrack> With all these issues looks as if ubuntu is unmanageable LOL
[07:23] <conntrack> I know that feeling haha. Care? No
[07:23] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[07:23] <kamilnadeem> how select an application(firefox) for opening http in thunderbird on Kubuntu 11.10
[07:23] <hot2trot> if I want to cat the name of a file to a text file, and not the contents of the video file to a test file, how would I go about doing that?
[07:23] <kamilnadeem> ?
[07:27] <HansLanda> hello there! anyone can help me? configuring wireless ubuntu notebook...thanks
[07:28] <hot2trot> how can I use the cat command to take the name of a file rather than the contents
[07:28] <hot2trot> ie. i wanna add the word's abc.avi to the end of a text file, and I wanna use cat to do it, but cat uses the actual data in the file, not the name of the file
[07:28] <HansLanda> hello there! anyone can help me? configuring wireless ubuntu notebook...thanks
[07:29] <blinkiz> Hello. I want to disable grouping of programs with many windows in the unity panel. How can I do this?
[07:29] <SilfenX> using gnome-core and vnc in a virtual desktop on my ubuntu server - when I boot the server and go over to the windows machine and connect to the vnc session running on the server, the server is already logged on and desktop running but not as root - I need it come up as root the allow me to edit stuff from the virtual desktop
[07:29] <Benxyzzy> Can anybody read this?
[07:31] <prashant_123456> hello all
[07:31] <prashant_123456> i have ubuntu 11.04 need to upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 how to do it offline ??
[07:32] <Newbeeans> I found my driver/software for nvidia. After I download it will it install like exe?
[07:32] <alaing> hi i've got a usb wireless adaptor which is using RALink RT2870 chipset.I had it working on my ubuntu server edtion 11.04 until recently when I upgraded to 11.10. Can someone help me with it please
[07:33] <prashant_123456> i have ubuntu 11.04 need to upgrade to ubuntu 11.10 how to do it offline ??
[07:34] <cheche> how do i open a bug of missing sound card support?
[07:34] <cheche> I am running 11.10 and thia asus eeetop pc does not have sound
[07:34] <cheche> looks like recognize the card but it does not sound at all
[07:35] <Newbeeans> 11.10 I don't have display :/
[07:35] <Newbeeans> After the download for Nvidia with it install with clicking or is the a command process?
[07:36] <WaltherFI> Newbeeans: what is your native language?
[07:36] <Newbeeans> English I'm just a bad typist
[07:36] <cheche> :-)
[07:37] <WaltherFI> oh, sorry then
[07:37] <Newbeeans> :))
[07:37] <kamilnadeem> how to select an application for opening links in thunderbird on Kubuntu 11.10?
[07:37] <Newbeeans> I have my answer about clicking...the drivers don't auto install with Linux.
[07:37] <brainwave92> Guys my /boot partition is said to be no longer detected
[07:37] <kamilnadeem> when I click on any links in thunderbird it asks me to choose an application
[07:37] <brainwave92> And my boot files are now in /root/boot
[07:38] <brainwave92> My boot partition is now mounted as a filesystem after the computer boots
[07:38] <brainwave92> even linux kernel images are stored in /root/boot only
[07:39] <rdvonz> Ubuntu fails to sync the contents of any folder outside of the ubuntu one folder.
[07:39] <Newbeeans> How do I open module blacklist?
[07:40] <Newbeeans> I'm on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1570260
[07:40] <htmlinprogress>  wahts the command like for seeing whats  a list of computer specs ?
[07:40] <psycho_oreos> lshw
[07:40] <htmlinprogress>  wahts the command line for seeing whats  a list of my computer specs ?
[07:41] <Myrtti> lshw
[07:42] <Kriss_> Morning everyone.. Say.. Ive been doing a costum install of 11.10 so it looks alot like the old gnome. Ive added likewise-open for domain and all that jazz and it works. However. When i use remastersys to stuff it back into a dvd so i can install it. The computer always will hang at checking battery state.. Even though im booting on a desktop. What could i be doing wrong here ?
[07:42] <Calinou> htmlinprogress: top?
[07:42] <htmlinprogress> huh?
[07:42] <Calinou> Kriss_: hold shift at EVERY SINGLE boot, select "previous linux versions" in grub
[07:42] <Calinou> due to ubuntu devs including linux 3.0, they were very, very wrong.
[07:43] <jakes> anyone see me?
[07:43] <Calinou> also, my question, how can I make my computer boot the previous linux version ubuntu by default?
[07:43] <Calinou> I'm sick of holding shift at each boot
[07:43] <Calinou> yes Guest95993
[07:43] <susundberg> Calinou: sure, just change the grub config
[07:43] <Calinou> ...how? I don't want to break my computer
[07:43] <brainwave92> jakes, no i'm already commited
[07:43] <susundberg> Calinou: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1306670
[07:43] <infinii> Calinou: depends on if you're using grub or grub2. but edit the config then run update-grub. you are looking to change the default system
[07:44] <auronandace> !blacklist | Newbeeans
[07:44] <brainwave92> My boot partition is now mounted as a filesystem after the computer boots, even linux kernel images are stored in /root/boot only
[07:45] <Calinou> speaking of "grub_default", can I make grub at least appear by default?
[07:45] <Calinou> instead of just skipping and booting to borked system
[07:45] <Newbeeans> How do I get out of the blacklist?
[07:45] <Kriss_> Calinou well .. It only happens when i boot it off the dvd ive made. The actual install with the configuration and installed programs works like a charm. I just need to be able to put the installed back into a dvd so i can install that with all the features ive made.
[07:45] <iffa> I'm still confused by the program using linux ubuntu
[07:45] <auronandace> Newbeeans: how are you in it?
[07:45] <brainwave92> iffa ?
[07:45] <iffa> yes..
[07:46] <Newbeeans> this on a ubuntu thread sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[07:46] <Newbeeans> auronandace: IDK that I am!
[07:46] <infinii> Kriss_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=688872
[07:47] <auronandace> Newbeeans: it sounds like you have no idea what you're doing
[07:47] <infinii> lol
[07:47] <Newbeeans> auronandace: finally someone understands me
[07:47] <auronandace> Newbeeans: show us a screen shot
[07:47] <susundberg> Kriss_: to me it sounds like the burn failed somehow -- either image is corrupted (or bad?) or the burn is bad -- have you checked the disk integry?
[07:48] <htmlinprogress> Newbeeans,   lol im glad you found that person,
[07:48] <Guest85304> hey guys. I  need some help.I cant open update manager and I cant find out the reason
[07:48] <Newbeeans> auronandace: I know how to print screen but where do I put it in Ubuntu?
[07:49] <auronandace> !screenshot | Newbeeans
[07:49] <Newbeeans> found it
[07:49] <infinii> reminds me..is there a zscreen for linux?
[07:50] <auronandace> !find zscreen | infinii
[07:51] <auronandace> !info z88dk-data | infinii
[07:51] <htmlinprogress> 3090912 kB how much is this ?
[07:52] <conntrack> haha
[07:52] <Newbeeans> http://imagebin.org/180657
[07:52] <infinii> auronandace: I don't think that's similar to what I'm looking for
[07:52] <infinii> auronandace: I found this though http://linuxandfriends.com/2009/09/21/shutter-screenshot-capture-tool/
[07:52] <conntrack> What is it four?
[07:52] <susundberg> 2.5321e+10 bits
[07:54] <auronandace> Newbeeans: why do you have a root terminal open? you also have the blacklist open in the background. can't you see in the taskbar?
[07:54] <Newbeeans> No
[07:54] <Newbeeans> Ohh the text page
[07:54] <Loi> Any of you guys know how to access a directory after installing another OS?
[07:55] <Newbeeans> auronandace: it doesn't do anything
[07:55] <auronandace> Newbeeans: what do you mean? it is a text file, you edit it
[07:55] <Loi> Anyone?
[07:55] <auronandace> Newbeeans: also why do you have a root terminal open?
[07:55] <Newbeeans> I don't like password every line
[07:56] <auronandace> Newbeeans: the way you are writing commands is very unsafe to have a root terminal open (you don't know what you are doing)
[07:57] <Newbeeans> I'll close it but this is a pc I bought just for learning.
[07:57] <auronandace> Newbeeans: that is a good thing at least
[07:57] <auronandace> Newbeeans: what is your graphics card?
[07:58] <Newbeeans> Nvidia Geforce 6 series 6150se
[07:58] <Newbeeans> I downloaded the driver for linux...so I'm thinking now what?
[07:58] <auronandace> Newbeeans: how did you download the linux driver? from a website?
[07:59] <Newbeeans> from nvidia company
[07:59] <Newbeeans> yes
[07:59] <auronandace> Newbeeans: ok, since you've likely done a lot that i'm not aware of, i suggest you reinstall and we can start over
[08:00] <Newbeeans> Okay
[08:02] <Newbeeans> auronandace: How do I start? :-/
[08:02] <blinkiz> Hello. I want to disable grouping of programs with many windows in the unity panel. How can I do this?
[08:02] <auronandace> Newbeeans: you've installed ubuntu before?
[08:03] <Newbeeans> auronandace: Oh yes many times this week
[08:03] <auronandace> Newbeeans: then when you have a clean install, come back and i can help you
[08:04] <Newbeeans> okay..will try
[08:05] <auronandace> blinkiz: i don't think you can, unity isn't very configurable
[08:05] <htmlinprogress> HansLanda,  are you there?
[08:06] <zamba> how do i set up ntp servers in ubuntu 11.10?
[08:06] <infinii> zamba: do you mean use ntp servers to sync your machine's time?
[08:06] <auronandace> !ntp | zamba
[08:06] <zamba> that's old documentation
[08:07] <zamba> -everything's- changed in 11.10
[08:07] <infinii> ntp is pretty easy though
[08:07] <infinii> oh it has?
[08:07] <RudyValencia> OK, so I'm setting up my test server and I want to be able to use Samba to edit test files on a Windows box; how do I set the permissions so Samba and Apache can both access the vhost directories? Like, a "web" user and "web" group, and 775, and then set Apache and Samba to use that user and group?
[08:07] <auronandace> zamba: i thought just the user interface is different, ntp will still work the same as it always has
[08:07] <AdvoWork> anyone recommend a tool I can use(gui if possible) to show all IP's VS hostnames on my network? Looking for a certain PC thats ip has changed..
[08:08] <zamba> auronandace: yeah, but earlier i could adjust and install ntp through the gui
[08:08] <zamba> auronandace: why they've removed it is for me a complete mystery
[08:08] <zamba> which basically means that ubuntu now is just as unsynchronized as windows, time wise
[08:08] <johann> I can't believe. I've been searching for the Ubuntu Irc channel for ages..
[08:09] <zamba> i'm -this- close to going back to debian
[08:09] <auronandace> johann: it is the default channel in irc for ubuntu installations
[08:09] <zamba> this is ridiculous how much they've ruined in the latest version
[08:09] <HansLanda> yes htmlinprogress
[08:09] <johann> 11.10?
[08:09] <zamba> it is*
[08:09] <zamba> johann: yeah
[08:09] <htmlinprogress> how to change my mac adress?
[08:09] <infinii> all because you can't figure out the gui? just edit the config files from terminal?
[08:10] <johann> I'm using 10.10, not going to upgrade anytime soon
[08:10] <htmlinprogress> how to change my mac adress? and bot please
[08:10] <infinii> htmlinprogress: u can't
[08:10] <HansLanda> hans@omerta:~$ sudo macchanger --mac 00:00:00:00:00:00 eth1
 <HansLanda> [sudo] password for hans:
 <HansLanda> Current MAC: 78:e4:00:8e:39:61 (unknown)
 <HansLanda> ERROR: Can't change MAC: interface up or not permission: Too many open files in system
[08:10] <auronandace> zamba: i use xfce, so i'm not affected by all this unity gnome3 stuff, i'm pretty happy with 11.10
[08:10] <FloodBot1> HansLanda: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:10] <zamba> infinii: i want to do stuff the -right- way.. suddenly starting to use the terminal and doing things manually can potentially break stuff when you're upgrading..
[08:10] <htmlinprogress> yes you can
[08:10] <zamba> htmlinprogress: aptitude install macchanger
[08:11] <johann> auronandace: How's xubuntu? Speed/interface/etc?
[08:11] <infinii> zamba: lol your "-right-" way isn't the consensus fwiw. most guis are just tools that help modify the very files I'm suggesting you edit manually.
[08:11] <htmlinprogress> infinii,   Sometimes known as MAC spoofing)
[08:11] <auronandace> zamba: the gui isn't always the "right way", especially when it comes to servers
[08:11] <zamba> infinii: please refrain from using "lol" as a way to start a sentence.. it reflects poorly on you..
[08:11] <htmlinprogress> zamba,  thanks ,
[08:11] <auronandace> johann: suits me fine, i suppose the speed depends on your hardware
[08:11] <zamba> auronandace: yeah, of course not.. but i'm using the desktop installation on my desktop..
[08:12] <tripelb> hi whoever helped me infinii Hi, I got as far as time to unmountDisk but I dont have the command unmountDisk in my terminal
[08:12] <infinii> zamba: please refrain from telling people that GUI's are the right way to administer servers. it reflects poorly....
[08:12] <Deddly> Hello, about to install Mint next to Win 7. Will it allow me to let Win 7 load by default?
[08:12] <zamba> infinii: i was administering a server?
[08:12] <infinii> tripelb: it's diskutil umountDisk....
[08:12] <infinii> "diskutil umountDisk..."
[08:12] <zamba> that's news to me
[08:13] <Deddly> Hello, about to install Mint next to Win 7. Will it allow me to let Win 7 load by default?
[08:13] <tripelb> infinii (terminal has tiny letters and I have squinti eyes) It was a typo, thanks.
[08:13] <infinii> zamba: regardless, if you can't use a terminal+editor...don't be judging me
[08:14] <auronandace> !mint | Deddly
[08:14] <Deddly> Thanks auronandace but I assumed the principle would be the same
[08:14] <tripelb> zamba terminal's not so hard - these guys will H8 me but I suggest - pico - as a simple editor.
[08:14] <zamba> infinii: of course i can use a terminal, but when i'm in the desktop environment i'm actually lazy enough to be wanting to do stuff like this without having to double-check docs and manually installing things.. especially when this worked as a breeze in earlier version of ubuntu..
[08:15] <auronandace> Deddly: essentially, yes, but we can't support you further
[08:15] <tripelb> zamba or joe
[08:15] <infinii> zamba: i'll check it out when I get home. what ntp problems are you having specifically?
[08:15] <htmlinprogress> Deddly,  maybe , but it needs to set that up, grub is your biger problem
[08:15] <infinii> Oh how I hate grub right now
[08:15] <zamba> infinii: there's no options in the gui to define which ntp servers you want to synchronize to.. there's only an option that says "network time" and that's it
[08:15] <Deddly> auronandace: Fair enough. I'm a Ubuntu user as well, though, and I would like an answer to the same question regarding Grub/Ubuntu
[08:16] <zamba> tripelb: trust me, i have no problems using either vi, emacs, joe, nano or pico.. that's not the issue here
[08:16] <auronandace> Deddly: i just said yes
[08:16] <alaing> hi i've got a usb wireless adaptor which is using RALink RT2870 chipset.I had it working on my ubuntu server edtion 11.04 until recently when I upgraded to 11.10. Can someone help me with it please
[08:16] <zamba> i have set up ntp manually now and it's working fine
[08:16] <Kriss_> Susunberg Sorry i had to fix somthing (im at work) well its been like that for more than two complete installs. It seems like its the same problem each time. Ive burned like 4-5 discs and had a complete reinstall just in case.. same problem
[08:16] <infinii> my computer's reset button is almost worn out from rebooting last night...trying to get 11.10+w7 booting on my UEFI computer
[08:16] <Deddly> auronandace: Oh right, that's what you meant. Well is there a guide for that (Ubuntu)
[08:17] <auronandace> !grub2 | deddly
[08:17] <zamba> i'm just annoyed that stuff like this have disappeared from the gui.. one of the powers of the earlier versions of ubuntu was that non-power users actually could get synchronized time quite simply, just by poking a bit..
[08:17] <Deddly> auronandace: Thank you
[08:17] <zamba> but now the experience is exactly like windows.. no way to get to the settings that will let you do stuff like this, and you're stuck with unsynchronized time
[08:17] <stevecam> is anyone else having a growing dislike for gnome?
[08:17] <auronandace> Deddly: np
[08:17] <zamba> stevecam: oh yeah
[08:18] <tripelb> infinii permission denied. must I use sudo ?
[08:18] <zamba> stevecam: gnome-shell has fixed some of the issues for me, but it's still a huge step back.. at least for "power users"
[08:18] <auronandace> stevecam: i use xfce, never liked gnome (both 2 and 3)
[08:18] <htmlinprogress> its not grubs fault for its problem but windows purposely broke it with a few updates, (win7 auto installs it)
[08:18]  * FloodBot9 sets mode -h #ubuntu ::  goes to sleep
[08:18] <infinii> stevecam: my biggest peeve so far is when trying to resize my terminals. I hate how the resize cursor changes to the scrollbar
[08:18] <tripelb> infinii - I got to the very last line and got permission denied.  Must I use pseudo?
[08:18] <infinii> tripelb: yes try sudo
[08:19] <infinii> tripelb: last line doing what? burning the .iso image to a usb?
[08:19] <stevecam> infinii, i just recently tried to change my screensaver in the new gnome shell.....
[08:22] <ActionParsnip> quiet today
[08:23] <auronandace> ActionParsnip: it's only just begun
[08:23] <tripelb> infinii -- sudo dd if=/Users/taylorquigley/Desktop/Received\ Treasures/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/disk1 bs=1m
[08:23] <tripelb> dd: /dev/disk1: Permission denied
[08:24] <infinii> auronandace: do you mind showing me a screenshot of your xfce desktop?
[08:24] <infinii> tripelb: are you POSITIVE that disk1 is correct?
[08:24] <tripelb> infinii the first time it asked me for the password, then said denied. the second time it wouldnt give me a chance. (ps the password was corriect)
[08:24] <tripelb> infinii just a sec
[08:24] <infinii> iirc you should be using /dev/Rdisk1
[08:25] <Axsuul> how come sometimes Ctrl+C doesn't end the program that is currently running in terminal. For example, I will see ^C. However, Ctrl+Z will suspend the program but the process seems to still be alive
[08:25] <infinii> tripelb: http://superuser.com/questions/63654/how-do-i-burn-an-iso-on-a-usb-drive-on-mac-os-x
[08:25] <auronandace> infinii: http://imagebin.org/180658
[08:26] <infinii> tripelb: btw, you better be absolutely positive that /dev/disk1 is the proper device...or you will in for a shock when you overwrite some partition in your computer
[08:26] <alucardromero> Axsuul, It halts it and forks it to the background.
[08:26] <Fudge> hi how can i get a dpkg -l or something similaar but get the installed size of packages?
[08:26] <alucardromero> It doesn't quite break the process.
[08:26] <alucardromero> ...If I'm not mistaken.
[08:27] <infinii> auronandace: cool
[08:28] <auronandace> infinii: feel free to copy anything you like
[08:28] <tripelb> infinii (from terminal lines) -  1:                    EFI                    200.0 MB  disk0s1
[08:28] <tripelb> -AND- $ diskutil unmountDisk /dev/disk1
[08:28] <tripelb> Disk /dev/disk1 unmounted
[08:29] <infinii> auronandace: i'm not sure I need to change from unity. tbh I use mainly terminals, browser, ide/editor, db client..and want most of that in a launchdock
[08:29] <Axsuul> alucardromero: any way i can end it without having to kill -9 pid
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: apt-cache show packagename
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: possibly
[08:29] <alaing> hi i've got a usb wireless adaptor which is using RALink RT2870 chipset.I had it working on my ubuntu server edtion 11.04 until recently when I upgraded to 11.10. Can someone help me with it please
[08:29] <alucardromero> Do "ps -aux" find the process number and kill that process.
[08:30] <infinii> tripelb: please read instructions carefully. the umountDisk /dev/disk1 is correct. but if you notice..the "dd..." command uses /dev/rdisk1
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> alaing: i suggest you run:  dmesg | less     and see what happens at boot
[08:30] <alucardromero> There's a way to pull it to foreground, but I forgot how to do that.
[08:30] <infinii> tripelb: disk vs rdisk NOT a typo
[08:31] <alaing> ActionParsnip: thanks i'll try that
[08:32] <tripelb> infinii I see what you said. I am bringing back the page to read more carefully. AND I made terminal a larger font.
[08:34] <htmlinprogress> why is this so dead in this channel?
[08:35] <infinii> quiet help channel is good no?
[08:35] <SilfenX> I just broke my server : ( when it boots it stops when trying to mount the ntfs partitions and leave me with no prompt at all - most likely a typo fstab and I somehow need to get at the file to correct it but how?
[08:35] <dr_willis> floodbots seem active
[08:35] <infinii> kinda like a quiet 911 switchboard ;)
[08:35] <dr_willis> SilfenX:  live cd is one way. recovery mode perhaps
[08:35] <infinii> SilfenX: boot with livecd. mnually mount partitions and edit the fstab
[08:35] <ejv> SilfenX: find a live disc, boot from it, fix the file that needs fixing
[08:36] <dr_willis> i thought it eventually asked to skip the mounting..
[08:36] <SilfenX> it just sits there for 10 minutes now \o/
[08:36] <f_droopy> SilfenX: boot from usb and fix /etc/fstab?
[08:37] <dr_willis> SilfenX:  you see text messages/errors?
[08:37] <tripelb> infinii after I unmount it -- I'd think it would not be there when I repeat the diskutil list command. Am I right?
[08:37] <SilfenX> yes
[08:37] <htmlinprogress> dr_willis,  whats with the floodbots?
[08:37] <dr_willis> htmlinprogress:  no idea. been     that way for a few hrs
[08:37] <alaing> ActionParsnip: i dont see any mention about my wifi adaptor. I see all the other usb being started up. if i type lsusb it shows it
[08:38] <htmlinprogress> theres not many ppl here?
[08:38] <tripelb> and infinii  (this does not say rdisk. from the webpage)  So the whole command you need to enter is:  dd if=YOURISOFILE of=/dev/diskX bs=1m
[08:38] <RudyValencia-> Is it possible to setup an identd for IRC users on my LAN?
[08:38] <almoxarife> RudyValencia-: yeap
[08:38] <RudyValencia-> er, a common identd
[08:38] <SilfenX> is it possible to access the unix drive if I boot the machine on a windows live cd? hm, most likely not
[08:38] <htmlinprogress> dr_willis,  are you the channel op?
[08:38] <RudyValencia-> how do I set a "common" identd up?
[08:39] <dr_willis> RudyValencia-:  should be. but why do you need one
[08:39] <tripelb> infinii I think I should have used 0s1 for the disk. #1 was the listing number not the disk number.
[08:39] <ejv> just enfoce a user mask via network services RudyValencia-
[08:39] <dr_willis> htmlinprogress:  nope
[08:39] <ejv> enforce*
[08:39] <Fudge> ActionParsnip  i think wajig large will do what im doing, but wanted to generate  a list of packages over a meg, not jsut 10 meg
[08:39] <SadlyMistaken> Hello everybody, can someone help me installing GIMP 2.7.3... I just download it from official web site (in a tar.bz2 file) I just reconvert it into .deb file with ALIEN... I installed, but it doesn't appears in anyway... i can't use it
[08:39] <htmlinprogress> who is then?
[08:39] <RudyValencia-> I'm behind NAT and thus only one PC can ident at a time
[08:40] <ejv> and why are you not using the build available in the reop SadlyMistaken ?
[08:40] <ejv> repo*
[08:40] <dr_willis> SadlyMistaken:  best would be to find a newer gimp ppa
[08:40] <ejv> or use the provided stable .deb
[08:40] <XertroV> Hey, does anyone know why libdb4.8++-dev doesn't seem to be in the oneiric repos?
[08:40] <dr_willis> identd is somewhat useless these days. ;)
[08:41] <infinii> is it useful for anything other than irc?
[08:41] <brainwave92> Guys i upgraded to oneric and now things on my laptop screens look strecthed
[08:41] <ejv> so change the resolution
[08:41] <infinii> free widescreen upgrade...SWEET! ;)
[08:41] <dr_willis> infinii:  i think ive seen it used in other areas.. but overall.. not really
[08:42] <dr_willis> you should be able to use idetd behind a nat i recall
[08:42] <SilfenX> is it possible to boot the instllation CD into some sort of live mode operation?
[08:42] <almoxarife> dr_willis: without identd I was seeing my user name being used by default, I didn't want that, that was my reason
[08:42] <ejv> how many possible users could someone with a lan have... to warrant identd
[08:43] <brainwave92> Not much but enough to give me a headache
[08:43] <dr_willis> !cloak | almoxarife
[08:43] <SadlyMistaken> ejv because i wanted to use that version which has "full screen" mode..
[08:43] <ejv> i don't think he's looking for a cloak
[08:43] <alaing> hi i've got a usb wireless adaptor which is using RALink RT2870 chipset.I had it working on my ubuntu server edtion 11.04 until recently when I upgraded to 11.10.  if i type lsusb I cna see it there but when i tried dmesg | less theres no mention of it. Can someone help me with it please.
[08:43] <Newbeeans> I'm back without errors :)
[08:43] <ejv> this sounds like a personal project
[08:44] <htmlinprogress> really ?
[08:44] <Newbeeans> I'm just going to leave well enough alone. Thanks to anyone that attempted to help me.
[08:44] <htmlinprogress> how it go?
[08:44] <Newbeeans> Yes...no low res error at all
[08:44] <dr_willis> ive seen 5 line perl scripts that did identd. ;)
[08:44] <ejv> im just saying people use identd to guarantee uniqueness
[08:45] <ejv> on a small network, it's rather pointless
[08:45] <ejv> on a small network with services, it's more pointless
[08:46] <Newbeeans> One good thing after I fought with UB this week...a wireless card that took me 6 hours to install on Win just said connected when I plugged it into this UB pc :D YaY!
[08:46] <htmlinprogress> Newbeeans,  its ok you just need to find someone that can help you out, and as you can see most ppl  are not awake right now llol so ask in a while later
[08:47] <htmlinprogress> just google it in the mean time
[08:47] <auronandace> !yay | Newbeeans
[08:47] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com is handy also
[08:47] <htmlinprogress> rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr   to you to flooodddd bot!
[08:47] <Newbeeans> htmlinprogress: I'm not going to do anything now...its working...step lightly here hahahaha
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> Newbeeans: nice when that happens :)
[08:47] <alaing> Floodbot is really active today lol
[08:48] <ikonia> htmlinprogress: please don't
[08:48] <Newbeeans> Floodbot is making me sweat
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> Newbeeans: I suggest you note the chip or make and model of the card or mini pci or usb stick and stock up for future systems
[08:48] <htmlinprogress> Newbeeans,  i forget what you get working ?
[08:48] <alaing> ActionParsnip: i dont see any mention about my wifi adaptor. I see all the other usb being started up. if i type lsusb it shows it
[08:48] <sroecker> alaing: did you try insmod rt2800usb ?
[08:48] <Newbeeans> ActionParsnip: good idea. I hope to learn how to do this by new years.
[08:49] <Newbeeans> Monitor
[08:49] <htmlinprogress> ikonia,  ok , just a bit fussy cuz of all the bots gone nuts and not one channel op to report it to,
[08:49] <Newbeeans> html
[08:49] <htmlinprogress> yes?
[08:50] <alaing> sroecker: no i havent. What do i need to do to try it
[08:50] <ikonia> htmlinprogress: I can see it - they are not going crazy.
[08:50] <sroecker> alaing: open a terminal. sudo modprobe rt2800usb and then look at dmesg
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> alaing: unplug it, then shove it back in after a few seconds, then run:  dmesg | tail -n 10
[08:50] <sroecker> or that, it should load automatically
[08:51] <alaing> ok brb just going to try ActionParsnip suggestion first
[08:52] <Fudge> is there a way to remove evolution-data-server-common         in lucid without taking half the desktop?
[08:52] <htmlinprogress> Newbeeans,  ActionParsnip  knowns alot more then i do and get it done   , you can say hes' a graandfather lol)
[08:52] <ActionParsnip> htmlinprogress: I don't know much. I just know the stuff to check. I move from there with websearches
[08:53] <htmlinprogress> well you do a better job
[08:53] <Newbeeans> htmlinprogress: ActionParsnip really tried to help but with my limited understanding it was nearly impossible without having me reading four days worth of "about Ubuntu".
[08:53] <iqbalkhan> excuse me guys,,
[08:53] <alaing> ActionParsnip: nope nothing there
[08:54] <harold> Hey guys I need help with O.O issues
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> alaing: tried a different USB port?
[08:54] <iqbalkhan> i want to configure the grub, for triple boot
[08:54] <iqbalkhan> how can i do that?
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> Newbeeans: I always try :)
[08:54] <alaing> brb
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> iqbalkhan: os-prober may just pick up the OSes
[08:54] <harold> sb help me
[08:55] <iqbalkhan> os-prober, that is a tools?
[08:55] <Newbeeans> ActionParsnip: All of computer is based on some kind of text? (I'm trying to start from 1 today)
[08:55] <harold> my login screen does not look what it should
[08:55] <auronandace> iqbalkhan: just run: sudo update-grub
[08:55] <htmlinprogress> lol!!!!!!!   i know that felling im still on 10.04 and  Newbeeans  you did good by doing that, now its remembering it and where you found it at is the challenge
[08:56] <iqbalkhan> auronandance: ok i'll try
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> alaing: doesit work in an oneiric liveCD?
[08:56] <harold> join
[08:56] <ActionParsnip> htmlinprogress: Lucid is still supported fully and is no bad release
[08:56] <htmlinprogress>  oneiric liveCD? whts that?
[08:56] <alaing> ActionParsnip: tried a different usb port still the same results. lsusb is reporting the device
[08:56] <auronandace> iqbalkhan: what 3 OS's are you trying to get grub to boot?
[08:57] <iqbalkhan> auronandance:xp,elementary os, and ubuntu 11.04
[08:57] <alaing> ActionParsnip: I've not tried the live cd yet
[08:57] <auronandace> htmlinprogress: oneric is 11.10
[08:57] <iqbalkhan> and all of the os in separate partition
[08:57] <htmlinprogress> the few of the best out there:) , and ive tryin already 49 os
[08:57] <htmlinprogress> thanks
[08:58] <auronandace> iqbalkhan: it should pick them up
[08:58] <htmlinprogress> i hope they done mess this one uo to  like the 11.04
[08:58] <htmlinprogress> sshutup bot!
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> alaing: it may be some old confuig making issues. The liveCD will have vanilla Oneric settings
[08:59] <iqbalkhan> auronandance: i have update the grub, what's next?
[08:59] <infinii> auronandace: hopefully I get 3 oses to boot tonight. oneiric, lion and w7. so far no luck with ubuntu+w7...EFI problems
[08:59] <ojii> hi everyone
[08:59] <htmlinprogress> vanilla Oneric settings ? what the..?huh??/
[09:00] <ojii> ever since the upgrade to 11.10 it takes about 3-4 attempts to boot my laptop. how can i find out what exactly goes wrong?
[09:00] <htmlinprogress> hi ojj
[09:00] <auronandace> infinii: oh, macs.. i stay away from those
[09:00] <htmlinprogress> ojii,  hi
[09:00] <iqbalkhan> auronandance: i just have update the grub, what's next?
[09:00] <alaing> ActionParsnip: ok, I'll download a live cd and give it a try. is there a live cd for the server edition? could be because the kernel has ben updated to 3.0?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> ojii: what happens when it fails to boot
[09:00] <auronandace> iqbalkhan: you keep spelling my nick wrong: reboot and see what grub offers you
[09:00] <infinii> auronandace: I like OS X
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> alaing: possibly, the liveCD will be the desktop OS
[09:01] <auronandace> infinii: and i like not having osx
[09:01] <ojii> ActionParsnip, the splashscreen (the violet thing with the dots) goes away and I see the text telling what it's starting. (Eg: starting crypfs OK...) last line is always "Checking battery state OK" then it stops
[09:01] <iqbalkhan> auronandace:i'm sorry
[09:01] <alaing> ActionParsnip: While I do have gnomedesktop running on my server for when i'm feeling super lazy
[09:01] <auronandace> iqbalkhan: no worries :)
[09:01] <ojii> ActionParsnip, there's usually also some "fail" messages, usually the 'crash reporter' and 'mysql server' (the latter isn't even installed anymore...)
[09:01] <ojii> ActionParsnip, then when i hit the power button again, it starts shutting everything down and i can try again
[09:02] <iqbalkhan> auronandace:ok i'll reboot now
[09:02] <htmlinprogress> infinii,  i warn you about mac loin  its a gui pain ,geared for portable devices but fixes a few major bugs i hear
[09:02] <infinii> auronandace: i'm not an evangelist. I use the tool that fits the job. as earlier, most of what I use is terminal, browser, ide/editor which linux serves me fine. but XCode doesn't run on linux so....
[09:02] <infinii> htmlinprogress: i'll see. i'm still on SL actually
[09:03] <htmlinprogress> infinii,  xcode? is?
[09:03] <infinii> htmlinprogress: ide for apple development.
[09:04] <alaing> ActionParsnip: busy downloading livecd. i'll report back once I've booted the livecd
[09:04] <ct529> hi! I would like to move all files in a directory, but not the subdirectories, using CLI. Any clue?
[09:05] <cvam> i installed 32 bit maverick in my 64 bit machine(Intel dual dore E5400). then i upgraded to natty.when I  update kernel i noticed it was 64 bit version.now shall I upgrade to oneiric or do a fresh install
[09:05] <htmlinprogress> http://developer.apple.com/xcode/   infinii  like this?
[09:05] <infinii> htmlinprogress: yes that's it
[09:05] <ojii> ActionParsnip, any idea ?
[09:05] <harold> hey how to exit apps running in top panel in oneiric
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> ojii: when you start booting, press ESC so you can see the messages
[09:06] <infinii> ESC or SHIFT?
[09:06] <ojii> ActionParsnip, are those messages logged somewhere? Because i see the tail of the messages but they don't really help me at all
[09:06] <Fudge> anyone able to tell me what the cursors look like in dmz-cursor-theme
[09:07] <htmlinprogress> infinii,  we if you are new, you need to know theres about 20 million of ubunttu users  and im betting there a project that does that,
[09:08] <infinii> htmlinprogress: i'm not new so don't worry. I know there isn't but thanks :)
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> ojii: you can look in dmesg I guess, not sure where the last log is though
[09:08] <crlcan81> Does anyone here have experience with Fluxbox?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: http://jimmac.musichall.cz/images/skins/dmz-preview.png
[09:08] <ojii> ActionParsnip, so press ESC during boot and take a video of the screen or what?
[09:08] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: all I did was websearch
[09:09] <cvam> i installed 32 bit maverick in my 64 bit machine(Intel dual dore E5400). then i upgraded to natty.when I  update kernel i noticed it was 64 bit version.now shall I upgrade to oneiric or do a fresh install
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> ojii: sure, could give clues
[09:09] <ojii> ActionParsnip, i'll try to do that next time i boot
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> ojii: also test your RAM
[09:09] <infinii> cvam: it's up to you if you want to retain existing system/apps or not
[09:09] <Newbeeans> yay! I got the beautiful photo I took to set as background..clicking is muh friend
[09:09] <ojii> ActionParsnip, how?
[09:10] <ojii> ActionParsnip, sorry I've been using ubuntu forever but since I never had problems before I don't know how to do these kind of things :(
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> ojii: hold shift at boot and select memtest from Grub
[09:11] <htmlinprogress> infinii,  when did you look for it?
[09:11] <ojii> ActionParsnip, does it mean something that usually the last boot runs an fsck and then boots successfully?
[09:11] <ojii> ActionParsnip, (that's not always the case though, might just be random)
[09:12] <Younder>  a damaged drive
[09:12] <infinii> htmlinprogress: I just know *wink*
[09:12] <blinkiz> Hello. I want to disable grouping of programs with many windows in the unity panel. How can I do this?
[09:12] <iqbalkhan> auronandace:It's working, i' really thank you..
[09:12] <iqbalkhan> :D
[09:13] <auronandace> iqbalkhan: excellent, have fun :)
[09:13] <Younder> blinkiz, you can't
[09:13] <infinii> htmlinprogress: kind of like knowing msft isn't going to come out with a sqlserver version for linux anytime soon
[09:14] <htmlinprogress> huh?
[09:15] <htmlinprogress> whats that you talk about?
[09:15] <Younder> In fact the  non-configurablebillity of 11.10 is annoying
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> ojii: there is an auto fsck after so many mounts
[09:15] <alecat> Hi
[09:16] <htmlinprogress> Younder,  really???? like how , and what way?
[09:16] <alecat> is it possible to maximize a window across dual screen ???
[09:16] <htmlinprogress> alecat,
[09:16] <htmlinprogress> alecat,  hi
[09:16] <iceroot> Younder: sudo apt-get install vim   and then you can configure what you want on your system
[09:16] <Younder> htmlinprogress, Like I would like to disable the guest account and can't
[09:16] <blinkiz> Younder, Thank you for the answer
[09:17] <dvv> salve
[09:17] <htmlinprogress> Younder,  im guessing do it like the 10.04 versions
[09:19] <Younder> htmlinprogress, You would be wrong, This account is created in /tmp. so disabling guest has no effect
[09:19] <dardevelin> hello
[09:20] <dardevelin> anyone with knowledge on how quickly works to help a bit ?
[09:20] <Younder> dardevelin, what?
[09:20] <auronandace> dardevelin: quickly?
[09:20] <dageriv> i have low fps when viewing movies with totem or vlc. round 15-20 or so perhaps. new laptop. wtf?
[09:20] <Fudge> ActionParsnip  I am not new to the process of searching.
[09:20] <dardevelin> yes quickly the framework
[09:21] <dardevelin> Younder, i was able to install it using the ubuntu repo
[09:21] <dardevelin> on debian
[09:21] <dardevelin> and its works just as same as in ubuntu, so thats nice
[09:21] <htmlinprogress> Younder,  i said its a guest,,, but if your working from a guest type account the how can you disable it?
[09:22] <Fudge> how ever ActionParsnip  I actually asked if anyone can tell me what they look like as I am unable to see the images, not something I would expect you to remember of course. :)
[09:22] <dardevelin> now the question is, how can i for example configure which glade will it use, or know where its committing since i didn't set up any lauchpad details on it
[09:22] <Younder> htmlinprogress, No, no. The system creates a guest account and I can't disable it.
[09:23] <auronandace> dardevelin: it sounds like you'd need to ask in quickly forums or their support channel
[09:23] <Younder> htmlinprogress, That entry manager gets in the way.
[09:24] <htmlinprogress> Younder,  then post/blog your topic, i bet your on to some bug or a faq
[09:24] <bobet> i need help about opening php files it redirect to download on firefox
[09:24] <bobet> any help pls
[09:24] <Younder> htmlinprogress, True with vim I could rewrite it. But I was hoping for something a bit less taxing on my time
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=dmz-cursor-theme&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&biw=1280&bih=855#q=dmz-cursor-theme&um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&sa=N&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&tbm=isch&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=72fbc1cf6efa5c2f&biw=1280&bih=855    That's all it is.
[09:25] <celltech> Why is Mobile Yahoo loading on my browser?
[09:26] <Fudge> ActionParsnip  I did not come across that
[09:26] <Fudge> thanks
[09:26] <dc5ala> bobet, what do you mean by opening? With a text-editor on your local filesystem or via a webserver?
[09:27] <htmlinprogress> Younder,  if its a big problem i would see to it that you get a dotnation from me
[09:27] <Newbeeans> I'm thinking of using the Software Center. Will those d/l's mess up my system?
[09:27] <nnull> !dvd > nnull
[09:27] <htmlinprogress> Newbeeans,  whats d/l?
[09:27] <nnull> !dvd
[09:27] <nnull> bah lag.
[09:27] <auronandace> Newbeeans: no, that is what the software centre is for (to add software)
[09:28] <Younder> htmlinprogress, well it compromises security
[09:28] <tripelb> infinii are you still there.  This is what I have now:   (making Mac USB Ubuntu boot disk)  $ sudo dd if=/Users/taylorquigley/Desktop/ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/disks01 bs=1m        Password:       dd: /dev/disks01: Operation not supported
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: what were you searching for?
[09:28] <auronandace> !software | Newbeeans
[09:28] <dardevelin> auronandace, do you happen to know their support channel ?
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: keep searches simple and you#ll find stuff
[09:28] <Younder> htmlinprogress, I found that I could break into my system in less that 5 minutes. Tat is well within a lunch break.
[09:29] <bobet> dc5ala, after i install apache2 then php5 i cannot open it via browser
[09:29] <auronandace> dardevelin: no idea, try searching or look up their site (i'd guess its #quickly)
[09:29] <Newbeeans> ubottu: any recommendations? :-) useful items
[09:29] <dardevelin> ok :D
[09:29] <auronandace> Newbeeans: what are you looking to install?
[09:29] <Newbeeans> ok
[09:29] <dardevelin> auronandace, thanks :D
[09:29] <Newbeeans> i'm just bored
[09:30] <auronandace> dardevelin: no worries :)
[09:30] <Fudge> ActionParsnip  describe cursor theme +package name
[09:30] <ActionParsnip> Fudge: can you see why mine yielded a hit...
[09:30] <Fudge> unless someone reviews a package or theme though ActionParsnip  I figure people arent going to say the asthetic look
[09:31] <dc5ala> bobet, have you installed libapache2-mod-php? (There is a command line version too). Also you need to restart apache for mod-php to get activated.
[09:31] <htmlinprogress> Newbeeans,  most of them are the main apps that the community uses  and are put there for there service and its safe , BUT!!  YOU MUST KNOW WHAT SAFE ,,,, its a linux princaple   you in controll you mess up then you crash and burn
[09:32] <bobet> exit
[09:32] <bobet> sorry wrong send
[09:32] <Younder> htmlinprogress, untill you do a distribution upgrade that messes with you security.
[09:33] <htmlinprogress> Younder,  pm please
[09:33] <Fudge> yes ActionParsnip  I do, of course
[09:33] <infinii> tripelb: no offense but you odn't seem to get it
[09:33] <Fudge> KISS
[09:34] <jowop> how can i change an iptables rule without ufw overwriting it
[09:34] <Fudge> ActionParsnip  i.e keep it simple silly loL
[09:34] <infinii> tripelb: do you realize there is an extra letter in /dev/disk and /dev/rdisk ??
[09:34] <Younder> htmlinprogress, Yes I am pissed off. Actually I am trying to be polite and avoid f.* words.
[09:35] <htmlinprogress> Younder,  i like to know more
[09:35] <infinii> tripelb: maybe it's better to find a GUI tool to use. I'm sure  OS X's Disk Utility can do it also but it's a bit finicky, google it for a guide.
[09:35] <dc5ala> bobet, that transfer didn't work, if you want you can pm me
[09:35] <bobet> dc5ala, i've already installed everything i send you a screenshot pls accept
[09:36] <odin_> hi there, is there a website/search I can use to see which packages came out with each Ubuntu release?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> odin_: packages.ubuntu.com
[09:36] <Younder> htmlinprogress, The new user manager is WAY underpowered
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> odin_: or you can ask ubottu if you chat with her
[09:36] <bobet> dc5ala, ok tnx
[09:36] <odin_> ah great thanks
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> odin_: start a chat with:   /msg ubottu hi
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> odin_: then say stuff like:   !info lxde maverick
[09:37] <Younder> htmlinprogress, serious downgrade from the old one. I would like a option to disable a guest account. Then some more fine grained account management.
[09:38] <htmlinprogress> Younder,  im i that source of anger?
[09:38] <Shogoot> Hi people. I got an assignment that asks me "if LAMP is installed how to Ubutnu distro manage runlevels. where in etc/ is the service configured and how? is the  LAMP automatically installed and configured to run at startup? if no, how do you configure it to run at startup?"  Anyone has any experience on this tha cna point me in the right direction?
[09:38] <odin_> can I just omit version numbers from debian/control ?  i.e. there are no know minimums at this time
[09:39] <cvam> In ubuntu natty mouse left click is not working. in last boot it is working but with some late and bad response after I left click . how to fix ?
[09:39] <Sheldon> cvan, but new mouse
[09:39] <Sheldon> cvam, buy new mouse*
[09:39] <Rajesh> Hello :D
[09:39] <cvam> sheldon:no the same
[09:39] <Younder> htmlinprogress, Of course not. The user manager is.
[09:39] <htmlinprogress> Shogoot,  sorry most are still sleeping,, wait a few hours
[09:40] <auronandace> htmlinprogress: depends where you are
[09:40] <cvam> Rajesh: :D means what ra ?
[09:41] <llutz> Sheldon: with "LAMP" you mean the xampp stuff, not the related packages from repos, right?
[09:41] <htmlinprogress> Younder,  i  say lets give the dev a piece of our mines,
[09:41] <llutz> Shogoot: 11
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> cvam: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1135337&page=2
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> cvam: is it a touchpad?
[09:42] <Shogoot> llutz, i mean the linux apache2 mysql pph stuff. i have no idea what xampp stuff is
[09:42] <htmlinprogress> auronandace,  well the pattern for this channel is like so,,,
[09:42] <cvam> ActionParsnip: no . it is working in windows
[09:42] <llutz> Shogoot: those are started via upstart-scripts in /etc/init. there are no runlevels (they are all equal excep 0,1,6) anymore
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> cvam: itsa compiz glitch
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> cvam: so what windows does is of near zero value
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> cvam: http://askubuntu.com/questions/6337/usb-mouse-moves-but-doesnt-accept-left-clicks
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> cvam: sudo apt-get repository ppa:raof/aubergine; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:44] <cvam> ActionParsnip: compiz had crashed several times due to seg fault
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> cvam: sounds about right
[09:45] <Shogoot> llutz,  ok. ill google a bit more with that info
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> cvam: which release are you using?
[09:46] <llutz> Shogoot: what do you need to do?
[09:47] <Bear10> Can rsnapshot do backups over a samba share or do i need to use openssh?
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> cvam: lsb_release -sc   will say
[09:47] <cvam> ActionParsnip:natty
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> !info compiz oneiric
[09:50] <cvam> ActionParsnip: i installed maverick 32 bit version in my 64 bit machine(Intel Dual core E5400).then  i upgraded to natty. when i update kernel later i came to know that my machine is 64 bit
[09:50] <GNOME_Chewer> o_O got punted here
[09:50] <GNOME_Chewer> awesome
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> !info compiz natty
[09:51] <Younder> htmlinprogress, do Find /usr/local -exec chmod o-rw \; and repeat for /var and /boot and /etc
[09:51] <htmlinprogress> huh??
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> cvam: try:   sudo add-apt-repository ppa:linaro-maintainers/overlay; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:52] <tripelb> infinii thanks, time for sleep now.
[09:52] <infinii> tripelb: nice
[09:52] <infinii> nite
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> cvam: gives compiz 0.9.5 which may help
[09:52] <Atharva> Hi...Why is FloodBot3 playing today ???
[09:53] <denysonique> Hi, My Laptop fails to resume form suspend with Linux 3 on 11.10. How can I add a 10.04 repository to be able to install and receive updates for the 2.6.38 kernel?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> denysonique: what happens when you resume?
[09:54] <denysonique> ActionParsnip: screen doesn't light up, power button is on, does not respond to magic sysrq nor to capslock
[09:54]  * conntrack has had blackpudding for breakfast
[09:54] <conntrack> s
[09:54] <Hemebond> You beauty! I have sound!
[09:54] <Atharva> Any One to answer ????
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> denysonique: what make and model system? What GPU? Do you have the latest BIOS?
[09:55] <Hemebond> I don't know what update was pushed out today, but I have sound again. Fantastic stuff :-)
[09:55] <antii> how can I add a client machine to a ldap server in ubuntu? (graphical)?
[09:55] <denysonique> ActionParsnip: right now I want to get my computer working, later I will file a bug report
[09:55]  * conntrack cries lol
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> denysonique: doesn't answer my questions...
[09:56] <denysonique> I want to run linux 2.6.38 with updates. I know the bug is a kernel bug, I had that in Gentoo.
[09:56] <denysonique> ActionParsnip: Can you help me getting 2.6.38, please?
[09:57] <PMartins> Hi guys, quick question
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> denysonique: then you will need to install natty then
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> PMartins: ask away
[09:58] <PMartins> a user appears as "logged in" on the GDM greeter
[09:58] <PMartins> I want to log him out
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> PMartins: colud kill the users processes
[09:58] <PMartins> basically, the latest gnome update messed his account status
[09:58] <PMartins> ActionParsnip: but don't I need to delete a .lock file somewhere?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> PMartins: to be honest, not sure but if you kill the processes it should kick him/her off
[10:01] <PMartins> Ok, ActionParsnip, I will try
[10:01] <PMartins> thx!
[10:02] <denysonique> ActionParsnip: sorry, but why are you bullshitting me? That I need to install Natty in order to get 2.6.38? This obviously is even possible by building the kernel manually.
[10:02] <conntrack>  /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:05] <rootuser777> how do i disable screen go darker after 5sec in ocelot?
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> denysonique: if you install the natty kernel, you will be running natty. There may be features in the kernel which other stuff needs. Plus mixing packages from other releases is not advised or supported
[10:08] <BrixSat> hello i have a problem connecting wpa_supplicant to a hidden wpa network :/ it does not connect
[10:08] <moose-machine> hi. i'm getting the following error: 'E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.' Can someone help me?
[10:09] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: what happens if you do as it says?
[10:10] <moose-machine> action parsnip: i was in the process of installing vidalia. so when i do this the terminal turns into a blue screen and shows a text box saying 'Configuring vidalia' and a whole lot of text.
[10:10] <rootuser777> How do i disable screen brightness go darker after 5sec in ocelot?
[10:11] <Shogoot> llutz, basicaly find a soure where the runlevel vs lamp config is explained
[10:11] <moose-machine> ActionParsnip: i will be happy to uninstall vidalia to make it work again.
[10:12] <sniperjo> rootuser777: xset s activate
[10:12] <BrixSat> join #ubuntu-server
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: if you need to navigate that you can use TAB and ENTER to select stuff
[10:12] <lelamal> hi all, how do i install kubuntu alongside ubuntu?
[10:12] <antnash_> Hey guys. I'm running tightvnc server on one of my boxes and I've got an issue with permissions. It seems to be gksudo that's the problem as if I just plain sudo something it works fine, but if I try and use the software center or shutdown (without sudo shutdown now from a terminal) then it doesn't work.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> lelamal: install it like any other package
[10:12] <moose-machine> Action Parsnip: yes. that has done something. thanks a lot. i will see what happens.
[10:13] <atom> hey.. is there any workaround for the freeze on reboot boot ?
[10:13] <rootuser777> sniperjo: tnx mate seems like it worked, is there gui setting for it too?µ
[10:13] <lelamal> ActionParsnip, which package do I install? there's no kubuntu in ubuntu software center
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> !info kubuntu-desktop
[10:13] <denysonique> ActionParsnip: adding a new apt repository solved my problem
[10:14] <onats> hey guys, how do i enable remote desktop via command line? i am root user connected to the terminal, but i need to remote a users session
[10:14] <moose-machine> ActionParsnip: yes. that worked. what a relief! thank u sooo much. :) cheers.
[10:14] <sniperjo> rootuser777: probably in the power saving, or screen saver prefs
[10:14] <denysonique> s/new/natty/
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> moose-machine: np man
[10:15] <sniperjo> rootuser777: by the way xset s activate, just temporary switches it on, but xset is the command you want
[10:15] <chen> hello
[10:15] <lelamal> ActionParsnip, thank you
[10:15] <rootuser777> i found in system settings tnx sniperjo
[10:16] <denysonique> onats: u can run manually a vnc server, I am not sure how to run vinagre from the cli, though
[10:16] <sniperjo> no probs
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> denysonique: from what I remember, the compiz in natty isn't amazing but the later builds are
[10:17] <Shogoot> upstart-scripts in /etc/init are those run on what runlevel in ubuntu?
[10:17] <rootuser777> how can i hide users in taskbar?
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> !runleve | Shogoot
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> !runlevel | Shogoot
[10:18] <Newbeeans> Any pages on turning off permission request for Software center?
[10:19] <StaRetji> Hi Folks, I've Huawei e1550 usb gsm modem. I use usb_modeswitch to kick it out of mass storage mode to modem mode and it works just fine. However, I have strange problem, if reboot pc, bios will wait 5 minutes to check devices (checking boot drives). If I shutdown pc and power on, it boots fast, passes this check. However, if I reboot PC this problem show up. So, my question is, is there a way to force PC, or BIOS, to reboot the same way as it would if Powe
[10:19] <Shogoot> ActionParsnip, which means that any program refered from Upstart is the one that gets to run on upstart and they have no runlevel anymore. /or do they get a runlevel 0 which is equal to 3-4-57?
[10:19] <BrixSat> im trying to compile this but i get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/718665/ :S
[10:19] <denysonique> ActionParsnip: nope, I am still going to have the newest compiz from Oneiric, by adding the Natty repository I will only receive updates for the 2.6.38 kernel, the rest of the my packages will be installed from Oneiric repositories, as latest versions will be only provided by oneiric
[10:19] <StaRetji> in other words, can I simulate power off, power on?
[10:20] <stanman246> hi, i'm trying to authenticate my ubu 10.04 lts agains a sbs2003 server
[10:21] <stanman246> have likewise-open up and running and added the computer to the domain. How do i get users to logon withouth the need of putting DOMAIN\ in front of their username?
[10:21] <cypha> how can I use /etc/hosts to have my domain name point to a directory on my computer?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> cypha: hosts file is used for name to ip resolution only
[10:21] <denysonique> cypha: you will need run a server locally for this
[10:22] <x0r> is there any nx(nomachine0 users here who have used vnc to share a desktop?
[10:22] <conntrack> Is there a food channel so I can discuss frying blackpubbings?
[10:22] <cypha> I'm running a server
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> conntrack: tasty
[10:22] <GinoMan> Hey, anyone remember how to find what processes are using a file on the commandline
[10:22] <conntrack> ActionParsnip: I have had them for breakfast
[10:22] <dc5ala> GinoMan, lsof
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> cypha: then you can add:    127.0.0.1       name.domain.local
[10:23] <x0r> psof with grep
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> conntrack: white pudding next eh?
[10:23] <x0r> lsof
[10:23] <MrMind> hi folks! I just wanted to check quick if it's possible to make the dock not autohide when maximize windows without installing ccsm, somebody?
[10:24] <cypha> ActionParsnip, how's that work?
[10:24] <cypha> I point my nameserver to my computer's external IP address
[10:24] <cypha> ?
[10:24] <conntrack> ActionParsnip: I have 5 most days
[10:24] <MindSpark> hi, how do I change my window manager?
[10:24] <Kaapa> guys, lost the tray on the latest system update - any tips on how to fix this?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> cypha: when you use the domain name, the hosts file will override network DNS and convert the name to 127.0.0.1 (localhost)
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: managername --replace
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: e.g.    openbox --replace
[10:25] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip, that's for the current session, what about if I want it to be done automatically upon login?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: you could add a startup item I guess
[10:26] <cypha> ActionParsnip, so where do I point my domain name's nameservers?
[10:26] <Shogoot> ActionParsnip, which means that any program refered from Upstart is the one that gets to run on upstart and they have no runlevel anymore. /or do they get a runlevel 0 which is equal to 3-4-57?
[10:26] <MindSpark> isn't there a way to do it through the environment? a variable such as WINDOW_MANAGER ?
[10:26] <Kaapa> actually, only happens in ubuntu classic
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> cypha: you will need to specify them in network manager, good admins will change the DHCP reply to set this automagically
[10:27] <cypha> I don't have a hosting account
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Shogoot: afaik, runleve 2 to before GUI are the same
[10:27] <cypha> ActionParsnip, what network manager?
[10:27] <lordmorgoth> Hello ppl !
[10:28] <emanuelcds> yo
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> cypha: the network manager app
[10:28] <Pavilliox> How do I make it so I can write to an NTFS drive?
[10:28] <dc5ala> MindSpark, there was a setting for the window manager gconf, not sure if this is used by someone but gnome2
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> cypha: or you can manually define up to 3 in /etc/resolv.conf
[10:28] <iceroot> Pavilliox: use ntfs-3g instead of ntfs
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs | Pavilliox
[10:28] <emanuelcds> someone else is having trouble with boost 1.42 libraries after upgrade to oneiric ocelot?
[10:28] <iceroot> Pavilliox: which is the default in ubuntu
[10:29] <Pavilliox> can I format to Ntfs-3g using gparted?
[10:29] <MindSpark> I am running 11.10 and I honestly have no clue what wm I am on right now and what unity has to do with compiz and how gnome is to all that. I miss the XFCE days
[10:29] <MindSpark> when everything was so simple and straight forward
[10:29] <cypha> ActionParsnip, maybe I need a step-by-step website on this
[10:29] <iceroot> Pavilliox: yes
[10:29] <cypha> I really don't get it
[10:29] <iceroot> Pavilliox: but you will format to ntfs instead of ntfs-3g
[10:29] <cypha> like from the point of the nameservers for my domain name
[10:29] <Pavilliox> Then install ntfs-3g from apt-get?
[10:29] <cypha> I don't know what needs to be done there
[10:29] <kamilnadeem> JHi
[10:30] <kamilnadeem> Hi*
[10:30] <kamilnadeem> how to select an application for opening links in thunderbird on Kubuntu 11.10.when I click on any links in thunderbird it asks me to choose an application?
[10:30] <kamilnadeem> and when I click select application it doesn't opens the application selection dialog but the chose a file dialog
[10:30] <emanuelcds> can somebody give me some hit?
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: you can install xfce4  then log off and log into the xfce session
[10:30] <emanuelcds> hint*
[10:30] <StaRetji> olks, I've Huawei e1550 usb gsm modem. I use usb_modeswitch to kick it out of mass storage mode to modem mode and it works just fine. However, I have strange problem, if reboot pc, bios will wait 5 minutes to check devices (checking boot drives). If I shutdown pc and power on, it boots fast, passes this check. However, if I reboot PC this problem show up. So, my question is, is there a way to force PC, or BIOS, to reboot the same way as it would if Power of
[10:30] <v2r> clwear
[10:30] <StaRetji> Folks* sorry :)
[10:30] <conntrack> rofl
[10:31] <MindSpark> ActionParsnip, yes, but I sort of got comfy with gnome, now it doesn't seem to be working properly because of all the inconsistencies between gnome2 and 3 and gnome-shell whate
[10:31] <MindSpark> whatever that is
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: i've used this in the past http://hsmak.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/howto-force-thunderbird-to-open-links-in-firefox/
[10:31] <Pavilliox> Why is NTFS support so bad D:
[10:31] <MindSpark> I choose the ubuntu session, I see unity apps are running, but then the cube doesn't work, I have to start compiz
[10:31] <MindSpark> using --replace
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> MindSpark: It'll be usinty shell in Gnome DE using Compiz WM
[10:32] <Pavilliox> FAT32 is fine, but I need files larger than 4GB
[10:32] <dc5ala> MindSpark, when you are using Unity, then you are using compiz as wm, running Unity on top of Gnome3
[10:32] <kamilnadeem> Thanks ActionPasnip ,checking it/
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: failing that, use this: http://www.zulustips.com/2007/03/28/forcing-thunderbird-to-open-links-in-firefox.html
[10:32] <antnash_> Anyone got any clue on the permissions problem with tightvnc server I mentioned earlier?
[10:33] <MindSpark> yes, that's what I figured, however some functionalities, such as the cube do not work unless I do a compiz --replace
[10:33] <emanuelcds> Hello, I'm having the following trouble... I develop an application that works fine in ubuntu 11.04 and it relies on boost 1.42 development libraries and libluaglue (that works fine with boost 1.42)
[10:33] <emanuelcds> when i upgraded to ubuntu 11.10...
[10:33] <MindSpark> another issue is that the unity launcher hijacks the super-s button for its own workspace switcher
[10:33] <emanuelcds> compiz and the software manager...
[10:34] <emanuelcds> linked to boost iostream and boost serialization 1.46
[10:34] <Dynamit> change the super-s button function
[10:34] <MindSpark> so again, I would have to disable then enable expo to let compiz take over that button again
[10:34] <MindSpark> Dynamit, that's easier said than done. where are the unity configuration options?
[10:34] <Dynamit> in Compiz
[10:34] <kamilnadeem> Thanks ActionPasnip , may you also help me with this
[10:34] <kamilnadeem> How to get better font rendering in browsers(Firefox/Chromium) on Kubuntu?
[10:34] <MindSpark> ohe problem
[10:35] <MindSpark> that brings me to another huge problem
[10:35] <Dynamit> Ubuntu Unity plugin
[10:35] <Dynamit> then you will see the hotkey super-s
[10:35] <MindSpark> the compiz unity plugin makes the system unusably slow
[10:35] <kamilnadeem> The fonts are fine on Ubuntu 11.10 but on Kubuntu 11.10 . it is not good
[10:35] <Dynamit> so is not easyer said then done
[10:36] <Dynamit> MindSpark did you see how you will do to be able to change the hotkey?
[10:36] <MindSpark> just enabling that plugin brings the computer on its knees
[10:36] <Dynamit> if you look in Unity Plugins
[10:36] <Dynamit> you will see hotkey super-s
[10:37] <cypha> ActionParsnip, I don't see anything on Google regarding changing my nameservers to make this happen
[10:37] <cypha> should I just use my external IP address?
[10:37] <Fever> Dynamit: Thank you for the super-s key, always woundered where they had put that one ;)
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> cypha: http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/docs/using.html
[10:37] <Dynamit> no problem
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> cypha: you could, yes
[10:37] <MindSpark> Dynamit, I know, but again, something is wrong with that plugin on here. It makes the OS unstable
[10:37] <Dynamit> Do a sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade --yes
[10:38] <Dynamit> it maybe do your computer stable
[10:38] <cypha> ActionParsnip, what's the DNS server address have to do with this?
[10:38] <kamilnadeem> Fixed the first one ActionParsnip , I moved to usr/bin/firefox in selection dialog and It works
[10:38] <cypha> I thought that was for browser settings or someting
[10:38] <cypha> *something
[10:38] <joybin> kive hp tuss
[10:40] <kamilnadeem> Now only if someone would help me with How to get better font rendering in browsers(Firefox/Chromium) on Kubuntu?
[10:40] <MindSpark> Dynamit, system is up to date
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> cypha: if you use your WAN IP, it shuld route back to the system
[10:40] <cypha> cool
[10:40] <htmlinprogress> http://tinyurl.com/42lwzby  doing your part to better the open source
[10:40] <alexluya> Hello, has anybody enabled compiz's magiclamb effect in ubuntu 11.10 gnome classic?
[10:41] <alexluya> This plugins didn't get installed in my laptop,so how can I install it manually?
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: sudo mv /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-hinting-slight.conf /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-hinting-slight.conf.backup   source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1530224
[10:42] <gas-gas> hello!!
[10:42] <gas-gas> !list
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7634222&postcount=12
[10:43] <kamilnadeem> Following it up ActionParsnip
[10:43] <Myrtti> !google
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> kamilnadeem: bit more hardcaore http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1067838
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> alexluya: do you have compiz extra plugins    installed?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> alexluya: dpkg -l | grep compiz | grep ext    will show you
[10:46] <orated> Hello! Its been only three days after installing system that I found /usr partition taking more space. I got 10 GiB for both / and /usr. And /var is given 11GiB . I know its not required to give this much space to the partitions but now I find /usr having only 3.7 GiB free whereas root and var got 8.3 and 9.5 GiB disk space left respectively. Is this normal? How can I increase space for usr?
[10:46] <StaRetji> is there a way to cold reboot ubuntu (remote machine). I tried setting in reboot=cold but that didn't help
[10:46] <alexluya> yes,installed
[10:47] <cypha> ActionParsnip, know of somewhere free domain names are available?
[10:47] <Shogoot> !Upstart
[10:47] <cypha> so I can point to my localhost
[10:48] <dr_willis> orated:  i tend to just give /    like 30gb.  not sure theres much need for seperate /var or /usr these days
[10:48] <awallin_> hi all, on 11.10 why doesn't VLC respond to my keyboard's play/pause buttons? banshee does respond..
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> cypha: no-ip.com
[10:49] <conntrack> How come noone fish slaps anymore :(
[10:49] <dr_willis> cypha:  like the dyndns.com service?
[10:49] <dr_willis> conntrack:  we grew up.
[10:50] <cypha> k, cool, thanks ActionParsnip dr_willis
[10:50] <dr_willis> awallin_:  check the vlc keybindings perhaps.
[10:51] <conntrack> I liked the fish slapping :(
[10:52] <nander> Why does my data copying speed keep dropping?
[10:52] <nander> It started at 8 MB/s and now it/s at 1.5 MB/s
[10:52] <awallin_> dr_willis: configure hotkeys, doubleclick "play/pause" vlc asks to press the hotkey, I press kbd/play but ubuntu gives me a "no-go" traffic sign overlay-display
[10:52] <nander> I try to copy the contents of an entire HDD into a folder on a different one
[10:53] <kamilnadeem> Thanks ActionParsnip , I ran the first command you gave and it is good now .
[10:53] <kamilnadeem> Ok Leaving
[10:53] <kamilnadeem> Peace Be With You All
[10:54] <alexluya> hello
[10:55] <jwtiyar> how to recovery .zip fiiles after fromat?
[10:55] <szal> jwtiyar: huh?
[10:56] <jwtiyar> szal, how to recovery .zip files after formt likerecoverying jpeg files,
[10:56] <StompinBroknGlas> HI :)
[10:56] <Peanut> Hi - I'm doing security updates on OO, but one of the updates wants to rewrite /etc/gnome/defaults, completely removing acrobat and replacing it with evince. Why is that part of a security update?
[10:56] <szal> jwtiyar: still not clear
[10:57] <Peanut> This is from the package 'desktop-file-utils'
[10:57] <jwtiyar> szal, see thishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[10:58] <szal> *sigh* explain-fu is weak in this one..
[10:59] <szal> and link-fu too
[11:03] <roland> what kind of virtual machine should I use, if I need to use USB serial ports from within windows environment?
[11:04] <jpds> roland: VirtualBox?
[11:04] <roland> jpds: so the non-free version?
[11:04] <Sterist> woah cant believe i missed the release of OO
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> roland: the closed source one from the virtualbox site
[11:04] <SilfenX> using a plain virtual desktop via a VNC/gnome-core setup but when connecting to the VNC session from my win7 box doesnt provide root access to settings which I need. How do I set up the VNC session so that it uses root level access rights for the GUI?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> roland: there is a PPA for easier installing
[11:05] <Sterist> how can i force apt-get to quit? software center has been saying its waiting for it to exit for about 15-20min
[11:06] <Deddly> When instructions say "rm ~/" the ~ bit means home directory, am I right?
[11:06] <XMan2012> I am having this following error "cp: missing destination file operand after `kylixlibs3-borqt/libborqt-6.9.0-qt2.3.so'" while running this simple commad "sudo cp kylixlibs3-borqt/libborqt-6.9.0-qt2.3.so"
[11:07] <XMan2012> Any idea,?
[11:07] <XMan2012> I am trying to install DB Designer on my Ubuntu 10.10
[11:07] <XMan2012> by this following way
[11:07] <XMan2012> http://mahmudahsan.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/dbdesigner-in-ubuntu/
[11:07] <Deddly> XMan2012: http://www.computerhope.com/unix/ucp.htm
[11:07] <roland> XMan2012: you need to specify target
[11:08] <roland> cp source target
[11:08] <XMan2012> target means path  where file must be saved?
[11:08] <roland> folder or filename
[11:08] <roland> fodler must exist
[11:08] <XMan2012> ok
[11:09] <XMan2012> thanks
[11:09] <roland> or it will think it's a filename
[11:09] <luist> whats faster and lighter to boot, gnome or unity?
[11:10] <crizzy> not much, if any, difference between those two
[11:10] <crizzy> unity2d prolly the fastest :p
[11:10] <Sterist> how do i resolve this? http://pastebin.com/dv8BmPi2
[11:11] <Nyashka> HI all!
[11:11] <stephni> how can i install nokia pc suite?
[11:11] <Myrtti> stephni: you can't.
[11:11] <Nyashka> I have question
[11:11] <Nyashka> help please
[11:11] <stephni> ok whats the alternative?
[11:12] <Myrtti> stephni: depends on what you would have done on Nokia PC Suite
[11:12] <Nyashka> How do I change lxdm on lightdm?
[11:12] <stephni> connect to the internet with my phone
[11:12] <CandyTiger> Thunderbird in Oneiric now opens 2 instances, and ITs struggling. If I close one instance, the other one will chrash as well. Never seen that before. Have you ???
[11:13] <Myrtti> stephni: plug the phone in, click the network manager, select to configure mobile broadband, rock and roll.
[11:13] <Nyashka> HOW DO I CHANGE LXDM ON LIGHTDM? HELP ME PLEASE!
[11:13] <ahhughez> I can mount a hdd partiion anywhere I like right? So I can mount as /hdd1tb right?
[11:13] <Myrtti> !caps | Nyashka
[11:13] <Nyashka> HOW DO I CHANGE LXDM ON LIGHTDM? HELP ME PLEASE!
[11:13] <Nyashka> ok
[11:14] <crizzy> sudo dpkg-reconfigure lightdm
[11:14] <MonkeyDust> Nyashka: no caps please
 and all?
[11:14] <Nyashka> ok
[11:14] <stephni> is not working ave done that before
[11:15] <Myrtti> stephni: did you choose the pc suite mode on your phone too?
 "ave"?
[11:16] <Sterist> somebody PLEASE help :( http://pastebin.com/dv8BmPi2
[11:16] <Nyashka> WHAT IS AVE?
[11:17] <Myrtti> Nyashka: forget it
[11:17] <MonkeyDust> Nyashka: caps please
[11:17] <Nyashka> ok
[11:17] <Nyashka> i need I already use caps ...
[11:18] <Nyashka> without i need
[11:19] <Nyashka> ok thank you all for your silence!
[11:20] <biglinux> Alguem sabe como instalar o epsxe no ubuntu 11.10 ?
[11:20] <Nyashka> Why Mark said that he black? This advertising technique?
[11:21] <stephni> after configuring i can't see where to connect but the settings has been saved
[11:23] <Sterist> anyone able to help me with this: http://pastebin.com/dv8BmPi2
[11:23] <XMan2012> whenever i run this commad "sudo /opt/DBDesigner4/startdbd" it doesnt work and even having this error "sudo: /opt/DBDesigner4/startdbd: command not found"
[11:24] <stephni> hello somebody help
[11:24] <iceroot> XMan2012: ls -l /opt/DBDesigner4/startdbd
[11:25] <cypha> dr_willis, are you familiar with setting up etc/hosts?
[11:25] <XMan2012> Now it says... "ls: cannot access /opt/DBDesigner4/startdbd: No such file or directory
[11:25] <XMan2012> "
[11:26] <XMan2012> i tried to run  ls -l /opt/DBDesigner4/startdbd
[11:26] <melvincv> Hi all, what is the minimum hardware requirement for Unity in Ubuntu Oneiric?
[11:26] <jrib> XMan2012: well the file doesn't exist...
[11:27] <XMan2012> :(
[11:27] <fuzzyLogic> ubuntu 11.10 is crap :X
[11:27] <fuzzyLogic> i can't believe i installed it simply based on the way it "looked", now it doesn't work close to anything that could be considered practical
[11:27] <Fleck> fuzzyLogic then don't use it
[11:28] <Fleck> and stop complaining
[11:28] <wolfmitchell> What do I run to update Firefox on Ubuntu 10.10
[11:28] <wolfmitchell> ?
[11:28] <XMan2012> I have downloaded DBDesigner4 ... and follow this tutorial  http://mahmudahsan.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/dbdesigner-in-ubuntu/
[11:28] <Skummel> if you think so fuzzyLogic don't use it :) can't be hard
[11:28] <Fever> fuzzyLogic: I agree, but there is to much work going back...
[11:28] <jrib> fuzzyLogic: what exactly doesn't work?
[11:28] <fuzzyLogic> Fever, is this goiing to get better?
[11:28] <fuzzyLogic> jrib, well i'd like an extra panel for my icons like i had in gnome2.. but no
[11:28] <GinoMan> is there a way to add applications to the applications lens manually?
[11:28] <fuzzyLogic> can't have it
[11:28] <Fever> fuzzyLogic: Probebly, in time
[11:29] <jrib> fuzzyLogic: if you're trying to cling to gnome 2 then I'd suggest giving up and trying xfce instead.
[11:29] <fuzzyLogic> and wtf is unity on about? it gets cluttered in 4 nanoseconds
[11:29] <fuzzyLogic> i think i might go with xfce, kthnx
[11:29] <XMan2012> Anybody ever install DBDesigner4 ?
[11:29] <fuzzyLogic> better than this crap..
[11:29] <XMan2012> I am having problem
[11:29] <fuzzyLogic> anyway that's my two cents
[11:29] <wolfmitchell> Do I update firefox via command line by "sudo apt-get upgrade firefox" ?
[11:30] <XMan2012> please help me
[11:30] <jrib> wolfmitchell: "install", not "upgrade"
[11:30] <XMan2012> :(
[11:30] <GinoMan> There's also enlightenment and kde as well as a bunch of others
[11:30] <Fever> fuzzyLogic: Switch to KDE for a while and the come back to gnome when all is fixed :)
[11:30] <conntrack> Which is the best ids for linux?
[11:30] <wolfmitchell> I installed it already
[11:30] <jrib> wolfmitchell: I know.
[11:30] <GinoMan> I have friends who swear by fluxbox
[11:30] <fuzzyLogic> Fever, yeah i thought about installing KDE but i remember that didn't work so well either.. i tried running gnome classic on here but it's all frucked up
[11:30] <wolfmitchell> ...
[11:30] <dr_willis> ive seen lots of people sware at fluxbox.. but use what YOU like. :)
[11:30] <jrib> wolfmitchell: "sudo apt-get install firefox" will upgrade firefox to latest version in repository
[11:31] <fuzzyLogic> like KDE from previous experience
[11:31] <Fleck> KDE works super great here!
[11:31] <wolfmitchell> Dont think the Ubuntu repository has the latest version...
[11:31] <Fever> fuzzyLogic: Well, what can I say? If you dont like sovling problems then Linux might not be something for you
[11:31] <wolfmitchell> I have firefox 3x and the latest is 5x...
[11:31] <dr_willis> wolfmitchell:  thats what ppa's are for.
[11:31] <GinoMan> dr_willis: fwiw it's not my cup of tea
[11:31] <wolfmitchell> Brb
[11:31] <dr_willis> wolfmitchell:  what ubuntu version are you using?
[11:31] <fuzzyLogic> Fever, i've been using linux for 10 years son, only now is it becoming gay
[11:31] <wolfmitchell> 10.10
[11:32] <GinoMan> although I am interested to try enlightenment
[11:32] <Fever> fuzzyLogic: Oh, sorry about that one :)
[11:32] <fuzzyLogic> you best be
[11:32] <fuzzyLogic> i know what i'm talking about here
[11:32] <XMan2012> I am having this error now "libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[11:32] <Fever> Hey take it easy man
[11:32] <fuzzyLogic> i'm chill bro lol
[11:32] <GinoMan> fuzzyLogic: bow before me for I am root right?
[11:32] <XMan2012> running this commad
[11:32] <XMan2012> sudo /opt/DBDesigner4/DBDesigner4
[11:32] <fuzzyLogic> just agitated from this install is all
[11:33] <dr_willis> !ff
[11:34] <GinoMan> XMan2012: did you search the software center for the library?
[11:34] <XMan2012> nope
[11:34] <XMan2012> it doesnt exist on the software center
[11:34] <GinoMan> (honestly it would probably be easier to search with aptitude or synaptic)
[11:34] <GinoMan> hang on
[11:34] <XMan2012> ok
[11:34] <uggwar> hmmm, unity doesn't want to auto mount my vfat usb drives. Anyone else experiencing this?
[11:34] <XMan2012> thanks in advance
[11:34] <GinoMan> gaaa
[11:34] <GinoMan> waiting for upgrades.... love it
[11:36] <uggwar> my android fired up shotwell, but any plain usb stick is ignored
[11:36] <ugur> hello does ubuntu 11.10 supports nvidia optimus or do i have to install bumblebee ?
[11:37] <PolitikerNEU> I had to install bumblebee
[11:37] <dr_willis> and hope for the best. :)
[11:37] <GinoMan> XMan: what is DBDesigner4?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[11:37] <XMan2012> for Database designer
[11:37] <XMan2012> http://fabforce.net/downloads.php
[11:38] <XMan2012> check this out
[11:38] <XMan2012> please
[11:38] <fuzzyLogic> okay i've decided to install KDE
[11:38] <digz> My left click isn't working in Ubuntu.
[11:38] <digz> It works fine on the Live CD
[11:39] <XMan2012> I dont know ... but i used this tool on window
[11:39] <digz> I'm now trapped on the Live CD.
[11:39] <fuzzyLogic> are there any ubuntu devs in here that had anything to do with unity?
[11:39] <fuzzyLogic> >:/
[11:39] <XMan2012> and download and execute this application ....it just a matter of couple of seconds
[11:39] <XMan2012> to open and run
[11:39] <dr_willis> Pleast take ranting to the OT channel.
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> digz: Which release?
[11:39] <XMan2012> Ubuntu makes me crazy to rub this app
[11:40] <digz> ActionParsnip - 11.10
[11:40] <digz> This is my first linux install.
 Did you find any way to install this application on ubuntu 10.10?
[11:40] <fuzzyLogic> dr_willis, were you talking to me?
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> digz: that is caused by a compiz issue, if you delete the compiz config folders in home then you will get default settings
[11:40] <GinoMan> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=960726&page=3
[11:41] <fuzzyLogic> if ubuntu sucks i'm damn well gunna say it in the *ubuntu* channel
[11:41] <fuzzyLogic> end of story
[11:41] <digz> ActionParsnip - like I said I'm a complete n00b. could you explain how to do this, particularly without the mouse?
[11:41] <GinoMan> dr_willis: try the atayana mailing list :)
[11:41] <XMan2012> i think Ubuntu needs to be improved
[11:41] <fuzzyLogic> XMan2012, heck yeah
[11:41] <uggwar> all software needs to be improved :-)
[11:42] <XMan2012> but running a simple application...
[11:42] <dr_willis> XMan2012:  its constantly being improved..  thats why they add all sorts of features in between lts versions to iron stuff out for the next lts
[11:42] <XMan2012> which is hard to run
[11:42] <stephni> how can i install nokia pc suite?is nokuntu supported in by ubuntu
[11:42] <uggwar> simple? have you seen the source?
[11:42] <fuzzyLogic> windows 8 is the same way, BS
[11:42] <XMan2012> Cant you imagine ... i am trying to run a simple application
[11:42] <fuzzyLogic> the developers preview let me preview crap
[11:42] <qin> !ot | fuzzyLogic
[11:42] <XMan2012> and ubuntu always shows me an error
[11:43] <fuzzyLogic> qin, yeah i need support right now
[11:43] <dr_willis> http://fabforce.net/downloads.php   does not seem 'simple' to me.
[11:43] <fuzzyLogic> ubuntu just fcked me in the arse
[11:43] <iceroot> XMan2012: what error?
[11:43] <iceroot> XMan2012: what command you are using?
[11:43] <hadidonk1> @stephni, depends on  u'r provider (enter phone number, username & passwrd)
[11:43] <qin> fuzzyLogic: Doubt that you will be provided one, after silly rant.
[11:43] <iceroot> fuzzyLogic: stop that here
[11:43] <jrib> fuzzyLogic: stop with the offtopic discussion.  This channel is for *support* of ubuntu.  Stop with the language also.
[11:43] <fuzzyLogic> qin, you're an idiot leave me alone
[11:43] <XMan2012> sudo /opt/DBDesigner4/startdbd
[11:43] <XMan2012> this command
[11:44] <iceroot> XMan2012: and the error?
[11:44] <fuzzyLogic> why are you guys butthurt?
[11:44] <GinoMan> iceroot: it's missing a lib
[11:44] <digz> ActionParsnip - did you see my message?
[11:44] <OerHeks> XMan2012, shouldn't it be >  /opt/DBDesigner4/DBDesigner4
[11:44] <XMan2012> sudo: /opt/DBDesigner4/startdbd: command not found
[11:44] <fuzzyLogic> i'm stating the truth, we all know unity sux
[11:44] <dr_willis> check your spelling and path..
[11:44] <fuzzyLogic> and any who deny it are probably idiots
[11:44] <iceroot> XMan2012: command not found means there is no "/opt/DBDesigner4/startdbd"
[11:44] <jrib> fuzzyLogic: this is your final warning.  Afterwards you will be banned.  Stick to support.
[11:44] <XMan2012> yes..
[11:44] <XMan2012> but if i run another command
[11:45] <XMan2012> it is somehow the same
[11:45] <iceroot> XMan2012: ls -l /opt/DBDesigner4/startdbd:
[11:45] <fuzzyLogic> jrib, are you an op? if so i might listen
[11:45] <XMan2012> let me show you
[11:45] <jrib> fuzzyLogic: that's not relevant.
[11:45] <XMan2012> i tried this way as well
[11:45] <iceroot> XMan2012: what is the output of that`
[11:45] <fuzzyLogic> jrib, it is actually. see if you're just a faggot i could care less
[11:45] <iceroot> XMan2012: just show the the ouput of the ls -l
[11:45] <fuzzyLogic> you see?
[11:45] <qin> fuzzyLogic: Sweet, another retard who can type.
[11:45] <jrib> I guess I see...
[11:46] <uggwar> i've been using linux for free for 15-20 years and these trolls still lurk about... jeez
[11:46] <XMan2012> ls: cannot access /opt/DBDesigner4/startdbd: No such file or directory
[11:46] <digz> anyone see my Q?
[11:46] <XMan2012> startdbd doesnt exist
[11:46] <iceroot> XMan2012: so what is your question then?
[11:46] <iceroot> XMan2012: there is no startdbd
[11:46] <dr_willis> XMan2012:  check your spelling and paths.. Case IS imporntant in linux
[11:47] <iceroot> XMan2012: you cant execute a file if the file does not exist
[11:47] <XMan2012> sudo /opt/DBDesigner4/DBDesigner4
[11:47] <XMan2012> libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:47] <fuzzy> geez you guys are really gay for faggotry with the whole unity thing :/
[11:47] <dr_willis> XMan2012:  yep. You spelt it right.
[11:47] <Stanley00> digz: I think you should re-ask your question instead of the Q you have just asked...
[11:47] <digz> lol
[11:48] <dr_willis> XMan2012:  i can confirm same error here.
[11:48] <digz> Stanley 00 - My left click isn't working in Ubuntu
[11:48] <digz> It only work on the Live CD
[11:48] <dr_willis> !find libborqt
[11:48] <XMan2012> i just installed and downloaded by this way ...
[11:48] <digz> Where I'm now trapped.
[11:48] <XMan2012> http://mahmudahsan.wordpress.com/2008/06/19/dbdesigner-in-ubuntu/
[11:48] <private_meta> What can I do when "shutdown" tells me it's out of memory?
[11:48] <SilfenX> can someone please assist me with a samba share issue? I cant connect to any of the defined shares but they are visible. dont know where to edit access rights for the shares to allow the windows machines to connect
[11:48] <Stanley00> digz: can you move your mouse?
[11:49] <digz> [11:40] <ActionParsnip> digz: that is caused by a compiz issue, if you delete the compiz config folders in home then you will get default settings <--- | I was told to do this but don't know how as I'm a n00b
[11:49] <digz> Stanley00 - yes, and right click. it's only left that's broken.
[11:49] <dr_willis> XMan2012:  you need to somehow find that support lib it wants..
[11:49] <Fleck> jrib good job! :) (kicking/banning :D)
[11:49] <XMan2012> :(
[11:49] <Stanley00> digz: OK, now press Ctrl + Alt + T, you will at the terminal
[11:49] <ahmad_> fghhh
[11:49] <Newbeeans> Where are the general settings like printers?
[11:50] <digz> Stanley00 - noted.
[11:50] <dr_willis> XMan2012:  now you know why its better to use ppa's and the repositories.. then precompiled binaries.
[11:50] <Newbeeans> I don't have an issue yet...do I just turn it on like most other Linux things to start my work.
[11:50] <digz> I can do it right now as I have to reboot.
[11:50] <digz> Like I said, i'm in the live cd.
[11:51] <dr_willis> XMan2012:  cant find that lib anywhere in the repos.. you may have to use source. or find a ppa
[11:51] <taalas> hi
[11:51] <Stanley00> digz: you are in live CD? that make thing easier, brower to your home folder on the harddisk then delete some dirs
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> !info libborqt
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> !info libborqt natty
[11:51] <antii> how can I connect my ubuntu machine to a ldap server?
[11:52] <dr_willis> exact version it wants is ---  libborqt-6.9-qt2.3.so
[11:52] <XMan2012> i found another way
[11:52] <XMan2012> http://vimeo.com/15137711
[11:52] <XMan2012> but not sure it will work or not
[11:52] <XMan2012> i want to ask you guys first
[11:52] <digz> Stanley00 - any particular ones? btw left click only works on the live cd.
[11:52] <XMan2012> it seems like i have to download exe file
[11:53] <XMan2012> and can run it while using wineHQ
[11:53] <taalas> I recently installed Ubuntu Server 11.10 on our new HP N36L. All went well, I would now like to add 3 HDs with a Raid5 SoftRaid and move the home dirs (and others) to the raid...is there a good instruction source for this? Or could somebody give me some tips for starting?
[11:53] <XMan2012> is it possible?
[11:53] <XMan2012> or it is just a fake video?
[11:53] <dr_willis> XMan2012:  that url is using wine to run it.. try it and see..
[11:53] <dr_willis> why would someone make a fake video of that?
[11:53] <XMan2012> there are many video are fake on internet
[11:54] <dr_willis> and 'why' would someone lie about how to run a windows exe in wine...
[11:54] <compdoc> maybe they dont know
[11:54] <wolfmitchell> Ok, I added the Firefox repository, and tried to install Firefox, but it's trying to get it from the Ubuntu repo.
[11:54] <GoneLikeTheSun> hey, i have installed ubuntu as a dual boot, but when i use it i can only access my D: drive, how can i access the C: drive?
[11:54] <digz> Stanley00 - which directories do you want me to delete?
[11:55] <Stanley00> digz: as I said .conpiz* and .config/compiz*
[11:55] <dr_willis> wolfmitchell:  you did a sudo apt-get update    after adding the repo?
[11:55] <digz> Stanley - okay, thanks.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: which ppa did you add, which version of firefox do you want and what release are you using?
[11:55] <wolfmitchell> Nope.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: also, did you run:  sudo apt-get update    after adding the ppa
[11:55] <wolfmitchell> Action I was about to
[11:55] <Stanley00> digz: some one said that .gconf and .dconf should be deleted too...
[11:56] <dr_willis> Stanley00:  if you want to do a total reset of gnome settings.. thats one hardcore way. :)
[11:56] <wolfmitchell> I got it
[11:56] <GoneLikeTheSun> anybody?
[11:56] <GoneLikeTheSun> sorry about the nooby question
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> !ntfs | GoneLikeTheSun
[11:56] <Stanley00> dr_willis: I just know that way, do you have any idea? ;)
[11:57] <dr_willis> Stanley00:  i clean mine out all the time. :) be sure theres no critical settings you want to keep
[11:57] <dr_willis> Stanley00:  that unsupported ubuntu-tweak tool has some setting/backup./restore tools also.
[11:58] <digz> Stanley00 - how do i find these files?
[11:58] <digz> search gives no results.
[11:58] <shp> hi
[11:58] <Stanley00> digz: where did you install ubuntu?
[11:59] <digz> Stanley00 - on my HDD
[11:59] <digz> there's only one partition.
[11:59] <shp> i've got a bit of a problem: the sound only works on my external speakers, not on my laptop speakers .... it worked yesterday
[11:59] <wolfmitchell> Yay, New firefox!
[11:59] <Stanley00> digz: then use nautilus, mount that partition, then browse to /home/your_user_name_
[12:00] <Stanley00> digz: press Ctrl + H to show hidden folder
[12:00] <Stanley00> digz: you will see them there
[12:01] <Newbeeans> The convo is prob over but I run Odin through wine
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: not something to woop about if you ask me ;)
[12:02] <digz> Stanley00 - it says i do not have the correct permission to explore the folders.
[12:02] <wolfmitchell> Action-The newest FF is awesome.
[12:02] <killswitchguy> guys, i have a simple question. how do i play a file from the terminal( just downloaded a webm file )
[12:02] <wolfmitchell> And I made my Ubuntu look like Windows
[12:02] <dr_willis> im sticking to chrome for the foreseable future
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: i hate firefox dude
[12:02] <Newbeeans> digz: right click >properties>permissions>allow exe
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: that's fun though :)
[12:02] <Newbeeans> umm i think :/
[12:03] <wolfmitchell> Yep.
[12:03] <dr_willis> killswitchguy:  nameofvideoplayer  nameofvideofile
[12:03] <wolfmitchell> Action-Want a screenshot?
[12:03] <dr_willis> killswitchguy:  ie:   vlc foo.avi
[12:03] <killswitchguy> dr_willis, thanks a lot
[12:03] <Newbeeans> Mine looks like a collage of my photog :D
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: sure why not :)
[12:04] <wolfmitchell> http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8917/screenshotidr.png
[12:04] <Newbeeans> I'm out of ink so I'm not going to do the printer. The install popped up but mine is not listed...another day perhaps
[12:04] <shp> sound does not work on my laptop speakers, it works only on my headphones
[12:04] <shp> wtf?
[12:05] <wolfmitchell> Thats my ubuntu
[12:05] <digz> Newbeeans: Stanley 00: I can't edit permissions either.
[12:05] <wolfmitchell> ;D
[12:05] <Newbeeans> digz: I'm new but wanted to try to help
[12:05] <digz> Newbeeans: Stanley 00: you are not the owner so you cannot change these permissions.
[12:05] <wolfmitchell> Oh, and I got someone in there trying to own Ubuntu with Mint.
[12:06] <Strav> Hi! I'm getting what seems a fairly common bug, although I got no luck finding a way to resolve it so far: when using ubuntu one, I'm only getting the root folder I'm trying to sync on the online storage and not it's content. I tried with a very simple folder, containing only a text file, didn't worked. Also tried with the ubuntu one folder, it did synced it's content. If I monitor the sync daemon queue or status, everything appears
[12:06] <Strav> normal though no file ever get queue. Any suggestion? (I also did tried to remove everything related to ubuntu one and reinstall it (i.e.: .config/ubuntuone, .cache/ubuntuone, .local/share/ubuntuone)
[12:06] <hadidonk1> @killswitchguy: vlc urvideofile
[12:06] <digz> Newbeeans: I'm stuck on the Live CD.
[12:06] <Stanley00> digz: oh, you should run nautilus as root
[12:06] <yoga> when I click on an application, there is a little circle running arround, what do we call that?
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: I get you mine
[12:06] <Stanley00> gksu nautilus
[12:06] <wolfmitchell> ?
[12:07] <digz> Stanley00 - could you explain how to do that? I'm very new to linux.
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/screen.png
[12:07] <Stanley00> digz: gksu nautilus <= run this in the terminal
[12:07] <jwtiyar> iam opening eclipse now but its not shown in launch bar
[12:08] <dr_willis> digz:  be very carefull with the nautilus file manager running as root..  and close it as soon as you are done doing your root needed tasks.
[12:08] <zaelle> hi guys, I'm a journalist on a student webradio and today I will be talking about online-adultery. Do you consider that a wedding in a MMO is cheating?
[12:08] <wolfmitchell> Kubuntu much?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> zaelle: thats offtopic here
[12:08] <Stanley00> dr_willis: how did you install ubuntu-tweak? PPA dont have the version for oneiric?
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: on my file server, yes
[12:08] <wolfmitchell> Ah
[12:08] <dr_willis> Stanley00:  from its homepage...
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: laptop is same desktop with LXDE
[12:08] <wolfmitchell> And yes, I'm running on Ubuntu
[12:08] <Stanley00> dr_willis: the deb file? thanks
[12:09] <wolfmitchell> Even my boot looks like 7
[12:09] <digz> dr_willis: Stanley00: It gives me another permissions error
[12:09] <hadidonk1> digz: Alt + F2 => gksu nautilus
[12:09] <taalas> If I add a Raid 5 softraid to my current system using this guide (http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/software-raid) will i be able to move the home directories to the raid without problems?
[12:09] <wolfmitchell> On my Unetbootin bootloader, this shows up as 7.
[12:10] <wolfmitchell> Epic right?
[12:10] <wolfmitchell> Imma go to #powder,
[12:10] <yoga> How do I change that little running circle to something different, like a timer or something?
[12:10] <wolfmitchell> Cant be in multiple channels with irssi.
[12:10] <dr_willis> Stanley00:  the deb file/tool can enable the repo. :) so thats how i normally get it.
[12:10] <dr_willis> yoga:  what circle?
[12:10] <wolfmitchell> If you need me, message me
[12:10] <Stanley00> dr_willis: it only has the alpha version for oneiric. Maybe I should wait :D
[12:10] <dr_willis> wolfmitchell:  you can :) if you know how to use it..
[12:10] <yoga> When I am waiting for an app to start.
[12:11] <yoga> dr_willis: the curser turns into an circle.
[12:11] <dr_willis> yoga:  you mean the 'waiting cursor' animation then...
[12:12] <yoga> yes.
[12:12] <dr_willis> if an app hangs  it may get stuck i guess.
[12:12] <digz> Stanley00 - could repeat what you need to me to delete?
[12:12] <soccermitchy> Lol, I forgot I could just fire up irssi in another tab on another nick
[12:13] <soccermitchy> And yes, I'm wolfmitchell
[12:13] <yoga> dr_willis: I want to change that 'waiting cursor' go another animation.
[12:13] <dr_willis> soccermitchy:  you can do multiu channels without needing to do that..
[12:13] <olzhas> After installing oneiric my laptop sometimes gets very slow! very slow
[12:13] <dr_willis> yoga:  you would need to make your own mouse cursor theme
[12:13] <olzhas> hp 4520s
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> soccermitchy: use ALT+channel number, the numbers in the bottom right are the channels with updates
[12:13] <soccermitchy> Oh.
[12:13] <digz> Stanley00 - because i can't find .con piz
[12:13] <soccermitchy> Well, I fail.
[12:13] <soccermitchy> Brb
[12:14] <dr_willis> soccermitchy:  might be a good idea to read the irssi docs some time :)
[12:14] <wolfmitchell> Back
[12:14] <yoga> How do I switch talk beside using Alt+Tab?
[12:14] <Stanley00> digz: do you have some config  you need to keep?
[12:14] <yoga> switch task
[12:14] <erkan^> how change I Thunderbird/Firefox -Profilemanager English to Dutch --> http://picpaste.com/pics/thunderbird_profilemanager-Oa8rrPfJ.1319544622.png ?
[12:14] <digz> Stanley00 - no, i haven't managed to use the OS yet.
[12:15] <yoga> The task bar is gone.
[12:15] <digz> Stanley00 - i just desperately need leftclick to work.
[12:15] <Stanley00> digz: so, just delete all folder which name begin with a "."
[12:15] <Stanley00> ;)
[12:15] <dr_willis> digz:  does it work on the login screen?  add a new user.. does it work for them?
[12:15] <digz> damn lol.
[12:15] <digz> dr_willis - no, it doesn't.
[12:15] <digz> Stanley00 - doing that now.
[12:16] <dr_willis> digz:  if it dosent work for a newly made user. or on the login screen.. that dosent sound like a user setting issue to me.
[12:17] <digz> Stanley00 dr_willis: deleted the folders. note it didn't work when i tried the xubuntu live cd previously, either.
[12:17] <digz> the only form of linux it's worked on is the 11.10 ubuntu live cd.
[12:18] <dr_willis> digz:  if its failing on other disrots/live cd's that defainatly sounds like a weird config/hardware issue.. or bug.
[12:18] <dr_willis> digz:  but not once you installed 11.10 ?
[12:18] <wolfmitchell> Why is it that I need to use root nautilus to edit my website? (Files are in /opt/lampp/htdocs)
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> wolfmitchell: ownership
[12:18] <wolfmitchell> Can I just make it so any--
[12:18] <dr_willis> wolfmitchell:  because its not 'your'  users web site.  its the systems web site..
[12:18] <wolfmitchell> Owait.
[12:18] <wolfmitchell> Chmod
[12:18] <dr_willis> !permissions | wolfmitchell
[12:19] <wolfmitchell> And Chown
[12:19] <digz> dr_willis - no, 11.10 is my first install. i was told before it could have something to do with the clicks not working on my laptop trackpad.
[12:19] <dr_willis> and its best to use GROUPS to manage it.. not just chown it to be owned by you. :)
[12:19] <dr_willis> digz:  Hmm.. IF the mousepad button was stuck DOWN or somthing like that.. it could interfear with a mouse i guess
[12:19] <digz> dr_willis - but the FN shortcut to disable it doesn't work , and there's no way to access the bios on this model.
[12:19] <digz> dr_willis - should a f* it up with a screwdriver?
[12:20] <yoga> When I am in gnome-terminal, if I press the Alt key, if shows me the menu bar at the top of the screen,
[12:20] <dr_willis> digz:  run the 'xev' program via terminal, put mouse in its window., and click a few times.. see if it prints out some info.
[12:20] <wolfmitchell> Brb
[12:21] <Vincent_> my laptop cannot search any network in version 11.10.Is that the driver's problem?
[12:21] <cypha> if my domain is asdf.zapto.org, how can I point to my local server?
[12:21] <yoga> however I am in bash, if I want to do some command line editing, like Alt+b, it also just show me the menu, and idea?
[12:21] <cypha> I have a /etc/host file, but apparently I'm supposed to use /etc/hosts?
[12:21] <cvam> how to know what is the date when i lastly upgraded the Ubuntu
[12:22] <llutz_> cypha: /etc/hosts is the correct file
[12:22] <dr_willis> yoga:  gnome-terminal has some se3ttings to enable/disable spefific keys.. I always hjave to make it ignore F10 :)  theres also compiz settings to  clean out differnt keybindings
[12:23] <wolfmitchell> Back
[12:23] <yoga> dr_willis: Thanks.
[12:23] <dr_willis> alt-b goes back one word here.. but im in gnome-shell right now
[12:23] <dr_willis> :)
[12:23] <yoga> I just come back for Ubuntu, after a few year, there are lot's of changes.
[12:23] <erkan^> dr_willis, are you busy?
[12:23] <erkan^> i need help
[12:23] <dr_willis> yoga:  theres been a lot of changes in the last 6 mo... :)
[12:23] <dr_willis> erkan^:  state the issue.. see what happens.
[12:24] <erkan^> how change I Thunderbird/Firefox -Profilemanager English to Dutch --> http://picpaste.com/pics/thunderbird_profilemanager-Oa8rrPfJ.1319544622.png ? dr_willis
[12:24] <alecat> Hi again
[12:24] <yoga> The whole interface is changed, I like it better.
[12:24] <dr_willis> erkan^:  no idea. ive never used differnt languages. or thunderbird...
[12:24] <yoga> The dash home is allsome.
[12:25] <yoga> awesome
[12:26] <digz> [12:20] <dr_willis> digz:  run the 'xev' program via terminal, put mouse in its window., and click a few times.. see if it prints out some info. | <-- In actual boot, or in Live CD?
[12:26] <nik_> Hi!
[12:26] <dr_willis> digz:  anywhere.. its a test to see if the mouse is physically working
[12:26] <erkan^> ok, dr
[12:26] <erkan^> dr_willis,
[12:26] <erkan^> i am by #firefox now
[12:26] <dr_willis> if the mouse button is stuck down - it might say some info about it...
[12:27] <cvam> how to know what is the date when i lastly upgraded the Ubuntu
[12:28] <yoga> This there any way that I can switch task buy choose one with a click?
[12:28] <stephni> how do i convert avi to 3gp?
[12:28] <llutz_> cvam: grep Start-Date /var/log/apt/history.log
[12:28] <dr_willis> yoga:  the webupd8 blog and askubuntu.com sites have dozens of unity tweaks and tips.
[12:28] <cypha> llutz_, I currently have https://gist.github.com/5634bbbdd8af944919c9
[12:29] <chemtail> I've already done a painstaking manual 'mkfs.ext4 -c -c' on a partition that took over six hours to complete.  Now installing with alternate CD in ncurses mode.  How can I be sure the installer doesn't try and re-format the ext4 filesystem, putting the badblock check to waste?
[12:29] <dr_willis> stephni:  winff, ffmpeg, mencoder, arista, or other apps...
[12:29] <cypha> do I just add another entry for 127.0.0.1   asdf.zapto.org
[12:29] <dr_willis> stephni:  i seem to recall doing that in winff ages ago.
[12:29] <dr_willis> but i have a better phone now. :)
[12:30] <stephni> ok lem try
[12:30] <digz> dr_willis: nothing happens.
[12:30] <dr_willis> digz:  clarify what you did exactly...
[12:30] <Stanley00> chemtail: there an option to do that, when you select the partition
[12:30] <llutz_> cypha: no www here, sry. what do you want to achieve?
[12:31] <cypha> I just registered a free domain, and I'd like for it to point to my local server I'm running
[12:31] <digz> dr_willis: alt+f2 -> typed 'xev' -> clicked 'xev' -> small window comes up, white with a black square -> try clicking all around the window -> nothing
[12:31] <stephni> is it in software center
[12:31] <cypha> local server is running at http://127.0.0.1:8000
[12:31] <dr_willis> digz: dont use alt-f2 open a terminal and runit
[12:32] <digz> dr_willis: okay, doing now.
[12:32] <dr_willis> digz:  it prints a lot of info to the terminal.. thats whats to look at.
[12:32] <chemtail> Stanley00: Yeah.  Problem is, I didn't find the option in the text installer.  And when last I did the partition setup, it even wanted to format the usb drive I was booting the installer off..
[12:32] <chemtail> So that kinda made me stop and think and stop.
[12:32] <llutz_> cypha: install "noip2" to keep your IP actual. do you use a router? then you'll need portforwarding pointing to your machine:8000
[12:33] <cypha> I've already forwarded
[12:33] <cypha> I can access my server externally
[12:33] <cypha> using my external IP address
[12:33] <cypha> all forwarding for port 8000 has been done
[12:33] <digz> dr_willis: yeah i get a lot of data
[12:33] <digz> through mouse movement and clicking.
[12:33] <Stanley00> chemtail: It's strange, it was there, when I install my ubuntu...
[12:34] <dr_willis> digz:  you see mouse/up/down items whenyou click the left mouse button?
[12:34] <chemtail> Stanley00: commandline/ncurses installer?
[12:34] <llutz_> cypha: ok, then add "127.0.0.1   asdf.zapto.org" to /etc/hosts
[12:34] <Stanley00> chemtail: yes, alternate CD
[12:34] <cypha> llutz_, even though I have another 127.0.0.1 entry?
[12:34] <llutz_> cypha: you can have as many as you want
[12:34] <cypha> ah ok
[12:34] <digz> dr_willis: shall i paste bin you what I get?
[12:35] <dr_willis> digz:  not really :) there just should be some changes if you have the pointer in the window. not moving and you click the buttons
[12:35] <dr_willis> digz:  that would show the mouse IS working
[12:35] <dr_willis> button press and button release events. with a # showing the button
[12:36] <elgreco> hi ubuntu pals
[12:36] <Stanley00> chemtail: when choose a partition, the first line show which FS, and after you choose the FS, the second line is whether format it or not.
[12:36] <elgreco> I would like to ask something about VPN PPTP
[12:36] <dr_willis> digz:  this looks a little neater as a test...     xev | grep Button
[12:36] <digz> dr_willis: yeah, it responds when i click and release.
[12:36] <dr_willis> digz:  then when you press the buttons inthe window. you  should see press/remease for each click
[12:37] <dr_willis> digz:  so its working for both buttons?
[12:37] <llutz_> grr, we need a new cron. Lots of code needed just to run a job "every 3rd tuesday of a month". Does anybody have a simple workaround?
[12:37] <alecat> in a dual screen configuration, is it possible to have only one top bar instead of twice the same ?
[12:37] <elgreco> is there a way to make a PPTP connection using smart-card or certificate ?
[12:37] <alecat> in gnome
[12:37] <alecat> with unity
[12:37] <digz> dr_willis: it seems to be, yes.
[12:37] <tomodachi> alecat: yes
[12:37] <dr_willis> alecat:  multi monitor setup is  very rough right now sadly.. its planed on getting some loving in the next release i hear.
[12:38] <dr_willis> digz:  so mecahnically the mouse seems to be working.. how about your touch pad? click its buttons and see
[12:38] <tomodachi> llutz_: just use make a cronjob, its a bit unintitive at first but once you get the hang of it you will be fine
[12:38] <digz> dr_willis: doing now
[12:38] <alecat> tomodachi, any clue/link on how to achieve this ?
[12:38] <tomodachi> alecat: what gfx card are you using?
[12:38] <llutz_> tomodachi: cron cannot handle "every 3rd tuesday"
[12:38] <elgreco> @ ALL is there a way to make a PPTP connection using smart-card or certificate ?
[12:39] <alecat> tomodachi, an ati (don't know which serie :( )
[12:39] <llutz_> tomodachi: cron is very intuitive, but very limited too
[12:39] <cypha> llutz_, do I add the port to it?
[12:39] <dr_willis> digz:  as a amuseing work around, no right clicking.. you can run   mousetweaks  -c --dwell --ssc
[12:39] <cypha> to /etc/hosts that is
[12:39] <tomodachi> llutz_: just make a counter within your script and make it run every tuesday then.
[12:39] <llutz_> cypha: /etc/hosts holds hosts/ips not ports
[12:39] <llutz_> tomodachi: ugly
[12:39] <dr_willis> digz:  then click on the 'secondary click' item, and a mouse move/dwell will then do a right click. :) its a feature for disabed people
[12:39] <chemtail> Stanley00: my bad.  I gutsed going further with the setup again and found the option to "keep data" this time.  Thanks, though, I was too worried about spending another 6.5 hours to even go there :p
[12:39] <tomodachi> alecat: well nvidia has their own "twinview" feature that easily enables this. I imagine that ati has the same.
[12:40] <tomodachi> llutz_: well then just count the amount of hours that is every third tuesday and use this instead then
[12:40] <_spt_>  /msg NickServ identify barker18
[12:40] <alecat> tomodachi, i don't have proprietary drivers enabled. is suppose i must do it
[12:40] <Stanley00> _spt_: ooops!
[12:40] <ubuntuwoes> hi all ..new to ubuntu ... have been trying to install it for days now ... with no success ... 64 bit win 7 and 64 bit ubuntu ... dual boot ... no luck in getting ubuntu to recognize partitions on the drive.  can someone help
[12:41] <dr_willis> Heh.. always msg the services from the server window..
[12:41] <cypha> llutz_, how do I direct it to the correct port then?
[12:41] <llutz_> tomodachi: as i said, there are lots of bloated scripts for that, i just was looking for something more simple
[12:41] <cypha> cuz my port is only listening on 8000
[12:41] <tomodachi> alecat:  that will help . Another way is configuring a spearate x server for each output. Then you can just configure that other x server not to have the bar
[12:41] <llutz_> cypha: portforwarding
[12:41] <cypha> forward 80 to 8000?
[12:41] <alecat> tomodachi, 2 x servers ! it sounds tricky to me :)
[12:41] <digz> dr_willis: OH CRAP
[12:41] <llutz_> cypha: for example, yes
[12:41] <digz> dr_willis: i think we have a breakthrough of some kind.
[12:42] <digz> dr_willis: trackpad right click responds, but left click doesn't.
[12:42] <smiii>  Hi all! I know this is a bit cheeky but I'd really appreciate all your help with this: http://www.discoverbamboo.eu/click/1366/3f621895356c150ed2d1bd29c7e2ca4d - thanks!
[12:42] <digz> dr_willis: could this be the root of the problem?
[12:42] <tomodachi> alecat: its a little bit tricky but it has some nice features as well. You can use desktop switching separately.
[12:42] <dr_willis> digz:  now that app only seems to show the clicks.. if you click and hold down.... it may not be showing that...
[12:42] <dr_willis> Im not sure of a mouse config/debug app that shows more detailed info.
[12:42] <tomodachi> alecat: for each desktop.
[12:43] <dr_willis> Unless anyone else knows of a tool to show if a mouse button is held down or not...
[12:43] <tomodachi> dr_willis: if you can just cat the output device. if you want to see if there is any output.
[12:43] <OerHeks> smii is that some kind of contest to win a Bamboo ?
[12:43] <cypha> llutz_, so how do I port forward? :)
[12:43] <digz> dr_willis: it shows when i press down, and when i release.
[12:43] <dr_willis> tomodachi:  cating here.. dident show the mouse clicks..  showed movement.. but not clicking.. i tried sudo cat /dev/input/mice
[12:43] <digz> on all three buttons but trackpad leftclick.
[12:44] <dr_willis> digz:  so that confirms the button is broke at least. :)
[12:44] <llutz_> cypha: you said you already forwarded it in your router
[12:44] <digz> dr_willis: do you think if i physically destroyed it it would help?
[12:44] <cypha> llutz_, I meant I let 8000 through
[12:44] <dr_willis> digz:  no idea. hard to tell
[12:44] <llutz_> cypha: you forward WAN:80 -> LAN:8000
[12:45] <dr_willis> digz:  theres most likely some wires you could unplug from the touchpad..
[12:45] <dr_willis> My laptops got physical off buttons for their touchpads
[12:45] <llutz_> cypha: again: are you behind a router?
[12:45] <digz> dr_willis: mine has an FN shortcut
[12:45] <cypha> llutz_, yes I am
[12:45] <digz> dr_willis: but it's useless.
[12:46] <llutz_> cypha: it should have setting for that
[12:46] <cypha> yeah, I'm doing it
[12:46] <cypha> I just had 8000 external and 8000 internal
[12:46] <cypha> so I'm making 80 external to 8000 internal
[12:46] <dr_willis> i gotta run.. bbl
[12:46] <dr_willis> good luck
[12:48] <kanha_> I have ubuntu 11.04 installed in my laptop and it was working wel but now its not booting an error msg as>>>>an occured unable to mount /var/run.How to fix it?
[12:49] <cypha> llutz_, won't this affect all websites though?
[12:50] <llutz_> cypha: all those being accessible from external, yes
[12:51] <cypha> i'm saying, won't this convert even google.com (which I suppose would use port 80) into using 8000 internally?
[12:51] <amin`> JWM ?? how could someone build a menu for JWM automatically? like this in openbox  mmaker -vf OpenBox3
[12:51] <llutz_> cypha: no, you redirecto incoming ports, not outgoing
[12:53] <hadidonk> back
[12:54] <ouyes> hello I get a problem I find my cpu fan keep running at a high speed
[12:54] <ouyes> I am using ubuntu 10.04 and thinkpad t400
[12:56] <elgreco> @ ALL is there a way to make a PPTP connection using smart-card or certificate ?
[12:58] <elgreco> @ ALL is there a way to make a PPTP connection using smart-card or certificate ?
[12:59] <ylmfos> haha
[12:59] <shp> i've got a big problem: i uninstalled compiz and unity disappeared !!! so i installed it again and now it does not start at startup (have to write unity --replace in a shell) and there is the bottom bar in the unity interface not normal
[13:00] <webroasters> hey guys. I'm using 11.10 with Gnome 3, and I'm also using Virtualbox. I'm trying to change the alt/windows key configuration. In earlier versions, I went to admin or settings -> windows. That doesn't exist right now, it appears. How do I fix the issue?
[13:01] <antonio_> canale italiano
[13:01] <llutz_> !it | antonio_
[13:03] <webroasters> nvm
[13:03] <sandra_> Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-)
[13:03] <sandra_> I trust you are all doing well :-)
[13:03] <IRsee> Very
[13:03] <IRsee> drunk
[13:04] <IRsee> I mean well
[13:04] <sandra_> IRsee, glad to hear it
[13:04] <shp> i've got a big problem: i uninstalled compiz and unity disappeared !!! so i installed it again and now it does not start at startup (have to write unity --replace in a shell) and there is the bottom bar in the unity interface not normal
[13:04] <sandra_> I have a problem here that even google couldn't answer.
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> shp: could add a startup item to run the command
[13:05] <shp> ActionParsnip, yes but what about the bottom bar?
[13:05] <sandra_> It was suggested to me to use xorg-edgers PPA to update to the latest nvidia video driver.
[13:05] <kantlivelong> anyone here use LAGG(802.3ad)+LACP?
[13:05] <sandra_> I followed the instructions as far as adding xorg-edgers PPA.
[13:06] <shp> there is no possibility to set options by default -_--"""""
[13:06] <cypha> thank you llutz_
[13:06] <cypha> got it all working
[13:06] <sandra_> But when I rebooted my Unity desktop was gone
[13:06] <cypha> somehow, someway, it only works without the entry into /etc/hosts
[13:06] <kantlivelong> to clarify... anyone here use LAGG(802.3ad)+LACP? I set everything up and only am getting 1Gbit when i should be getting 2Gbit... :/
[13:06] <sandra_> I had to log in by using the Unity 2d desktop.
[13:06] <cypha> I think because I'm already forwarding through vbox
[13:07] <sandra_> Can any of you please knidly tell me how to get my unity desktop back up and running ?
[13:07] <sandra_> Thanks
[13:07] <alaing> ActionParsnip: are you around?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> alaing:
[13:08] <alaing> ActionParsnip: hi, i tried the livecd and it picked up my wireless adaptor
[13:08] <alaing> so it must be an old config or something
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> alaing: then its a bug with upgrading. The upgrade has made it not work but a clean install will make it ok
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> alaing: not sure where the config issue lies, also check the loaded modules and compare to your installed OS
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> alaing: also check which package the driver is in, you may need to reinstall that package
[13:09] <alaing> not to keen on clean installation
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> alaing: hopefully it won't go that way
[13:10] <stephni> can i install total video converter with wine cos winff does not convert in 3p
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> stephni: if it is in the appdb, yes
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> stephni: what do you want to convert from/to? mencoder can do almost anything
[13:10] <shp> when i start "unity --replace" bottom bar remains: how delete it ??????????
[13:11] <CharlieSu> Hi.  I'm on Lucid and I'm installing libwww-perl.  I'd like a newer version of LWP (v6 not v5). Is there a way to get that on Lucid?
[13:11] <alaing> ActionParsnip: I've got the driver from ralink website. I remember when I finihsed installed my wifi I had to run make or something
[13:11] <SunTsu> CharlieSu: prolly not, because Lucid is old
[13:11] <johannes2011> @shp: bottom bar comes from gnome. kill gnome-panel and remove gnome-panel. sudo apt-get remove gnome-panel. then logout and login again
[13:12] <stephni> AVI TO 3GP
[13:12] <CharlieSu> SunTsu: some PPA or something?   I mean it meets to Perl Reqs...
[13:12] <alaing> ActionParsnip: how do i chekc the package?
[13:12] <stephni> sorry it was in caps
[13:12] <SunTsu> CharlieSu: you could install it from cpan, but I don't think that you'll find that for lucid
[13:12] <Pici> CharlieSu: What version do you need?
[13:12] <shp> thx johannes2011
[13:12] <CharlieSu> Pici: v6
[13:13] <roxdragon> hi all
[13:13] <CharlieSu> SunTsu: I'm able to install it via CPAN, but I'm trying to automate everythign w/ Chef..  It isn't working well because the other version is installed via the package manager.
[13:13] <Pici> CharlieSu: Yeah, you're going to have to find an outside source for that. Perhaps via a PPA.
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> alaing: so you say you have to compile the driver?
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> Stephni: http://www.ehow.com/how_6121269_convert-avi-3gp-ubuntu.html
[13:15] <alaing> ActionParsnip: i had to when I first installed ubuntu server. I think it was version 10.04 when I had to run make and make
[13:15] <X-tonic> Anyway to theme 12.04 without installing gnome-shell?
[13:15] <X-tonic> *11.10
[13:16] <compdoc> theres only a couple of themes
[13:16] <sandra_> Even now the crack team of among my fellow Ubuntu inmates must be working feverishly on my question.
[13:16] <johannes2011> @X-tonic: Ever tried gnome-tweak-tool
[13:16] <compdoc> all made with that top menu in mind
[13:16] <X-tonic> @ johannes2011: That has gnome-shell as dependency
[13:16] <X-tonic> That i want to avoid
[13:17] <johannes2011> alright. then try ubuntu-tweak
[13:17] <X-tonic> Makes no sense on part of ubuntu to have gnome-shell to be able to customize unity.
[13:17] <johannes2011> @X-tonic: Try ubuntu-tweak
[13:18] <resus> hi all, aptitude is giving me trouble about not being able to lock down the cache file, where is it located? no other apt tool is running
[13:18] <X-tonic> @ johannes2011: Ubuntu tweak is a part of repo? Unable to find it. :(
[13:19] <Gentoo64> https://launchpad.net/~tualatrix/+archive/next
[13:19] <MonkeyDust> X-tonic: http://ubuntu-tweak.com/
[13:19] <johannes2011> @X-tonic: try http://ubuntu-tweak.com/ - download alpha 0.6
[13:19] <roxdragon> hi i have a problem with create .deb
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> resus: do you have apt-get running or software centre running etc
[13:19] <roxdragon> i used debuild binary
[13:19] <resus> ActionParsnip: nope no other apt tool
[13:19] <roxdragon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/718767/
[13:20] <johannes2011> @resus: restarting the system should solve this
[13:20] <roxdragon> ?
[13:20] <brunolambert> Is it just me or there is no calendar software by default integrated in the bar in Oneric?
[13:21] <alaing> ActionParsnip: should I tried that other method?
[13:21] <resus> johannes2011: there's gotto be a better way than restarting the system
[13:21] <Gentoo64> resus, running a server?
[13:22] <johannes2011> @resus: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[13:22] <roxdragon> help please
[13:22] <resus> Gentoo64: yes, also i just want to know how the cache file works
[13:22] <sirsean1227> hello
[13:22] <Gentoo64> try what johannes2011 said, if not try rm -rf
[13:22] <AaronMT> ?
[13:23] <sirsean1227> Does anyone know how to change the login managers resolution?
[13:23] <sirsean1227> 11.10
[13:24]  * conntrack yawns
[13:24] <sirsean1227> hello?
[13:24] <phlak_user> !anyone | sirsean1227
[13:25] <sirsean1227> !details
[13:25] <resus> Gentoo64: just the lock file didn't work, the whole directory has to be wiped?
[13:25] <Gentoo64> resus, im not sure about it
[13:26] <Gentoo64> i meant if rm doesnt remove the lock file, try rm -f
[13:26] <Pici> !aptfix | resus
[13:26] <phlak_user> sirsean1227: what do you mean by resolution?
[13:26] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, it should default to native res
[13:26] <roxdragon> I can not create a. deb package with the command debuild binary
[13:26] <roxdragon> http://paste.ubuntu.com/718767/
[13:26] <sirsean1227> I am running Ubuntu 11.10 on my laptop.  It is plugged into my HD tv via HDMI.  I would like to know how to change the login managers resolution.  My desktop resolution is fine, but the Login Screen resolution is not 1080p as i wish it to be.
[13:27] <infinii> Hi, anyone able to figure out how to get grub working on EFI system? 11.10+w7
[13:27] <om26er> no
[13:28] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, is it just the wallpaper, or the login bit itself thats not right
[13:28] <sirsean1227> the login itself
[13:29] <sirsean1227> i know nothing about this new Login manager in ubuntu 11.10
[13:29] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, cant find much on google, found one thing.. try edit the file: /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf
[13:29] <Gentoo64> see if theres any res options in there
[13:29] <phlak_user> sirsean1227: you can edit the unity-greeter.conf in /etc/lightdm
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:30] <odb|fidel> lightdm seems to keep using the wrong keyboard layout for me - is that a known issue?
[13:30] <sandra_> Hello BluesKaj
[13:30] <BluesKaj> hi sandra_
[13:30] <phlak_user> odb|fidel: you mean at every boot it changes?
[13:31] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64:  Do i change the dpi setting?  That is the only thing i can see
[13:31] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, you could try that see if it helps
[13:31] <phlak_user> sirsean1227: that should be for the font
[13:31] <alaing> ActionParsnip: this is what I had to do last time http://pastebin.com/W4UCHE0g
[13:31] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  What would be dpi for 1080p?
[13:32] <Gentoo64> there isnt one
[13:32] <sirsean1227> oh
[13:32] <Gentoo64> depends on the monitor
[13:32] <sirsean1227> PHLAK,  oh haha
[13:32] <odb|fidel> phlak_user: yes it is english on each boot
[13:32] <sandra_> Say does anyone here use xorg-edgers PPA for the video driver needs ?
[13:32] <sirsean1227> PHLAK,  Yeah that sound right
[13:32] <Gentoo64> if the wallpaper is fine etc then dpi should make the font bigger
[13:32] <odb|fidel> while it is german after login
[13:33] <Fever> What is the difference between .bashrc and .bash_profile?
[13:33] <phlak_user> odb|fidel: where do you change it each time?
[13:33] <llutz_> Fever: different kind of invocation, read "man bash"
[13:33] <sirsean1227> phlak_user: is there a line i can add?
[13:33] <Gentoo64> can anyone paste that /etc/lightdm/unity-greeter.conf ?
[13:34] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64: #
[13:34] <sirsean1227> # background = Background file to use, either an image path or a color (e.g. #772953)
[13:34] <sirsean1227> # logo = Logo file to use
[13:34] <sirsean1227> # theme-name = GTK+ theme to use
[13:34] <sirsean1227> # font-name = Font to use
[13:34] <sirsean1227> # xft-antialias = Whether to antialias Xft fonts (true or false)
[13:34] <FloodBot1> sirsean1227: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:34] <Gentoo64> i mean, not like that lol
[13:34] <Gentoo64> the whole file on paste site
[13:34] <odb|fidel> phlak_user: i configured my ubuntu session to use german keyboard layout. gdm was able to rmeember the setting - while lightdm seems to always use english. i noticed there is a .file in the users home which might be related to the user lightDM setting - but as i am not in front of that linux box right now i cant double-check the filename
[13:35] <JeffFromOhio> When you install a package in Ubuntu, is there some default directory it will install documentation to, other than the man pages?
[13:35] <sirsean1227> sorry
[13:35] <sirsean1227> this is my first time
[13:35] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, its ok
[13:35] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, http://dpaste.com/ paste it there
[13:35] <iceroot> Gentoo64: http://pastebin.com/YfwXy8j8
[13:35] <JeffFromOhio> I'm trying to find documentation for the postgresql package which tells me what the default admin password is, or if there is a config file I need to edit to set a password and enable the server
[13:36] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, ok dont worry
[13:36] <iceroot> JeffFromOhio: dpkg -L packagename
[13:36] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  Done!
[13:37] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  I am sure i could add a line
[13:37] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  Just dont know what
[13:37] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, i dont think theres any res options there
[13:38] <Gentoo64> if its just a login screen, maybe just deal with it? lol
[13:38] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  Thats what it looked like to me as well.  Can i add a line?
[13:38] <Chotaz`Work> Gnome3's so pretty and simple *_*
[13:38] <sandra_> Say does anyone here use xorg-edgers PPA for the video driver needs ?
[13:38] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, i dont think so
[13:39] <tkruise> mirc without fixedsys is like living without my penis
[13:39] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, changing any other settings would prob mess with your desktop res so i dont know
[13:39] <sandra_> Say does anyone here use xorg-edgers PPA for their video driver needs ?
[13:39] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,   It would be nice if the Ubuntu Devs thought about simple stuff like that.
[13:39] <sandra_> I can't spell or write this morning
[13:39] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, yeah i suppose 99% of people have the login screen the same res as desktop though
[13:39] <Gentoo64> ie default native res
[13:40] <SunTsu> sandra_: no, and after what you just wrote I doubt that I will try to ;)
[13:40] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  It should default to whatever screen you are using
[13:40] <Gentoo64> is it too small or big or something
[13:40] <sandra_> SunTsu, Work the majority of the time lol
[13:40] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, what res is the laptop? 1080p as well?
[13:40] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  To big
[13:40] <sirsean1227> no
[13:41] <sirsean1227> the laptop is XXXX x 900
[13:41] <Gentoo64> your prob outputting at a lower res to the tv
[13:41] <Gentoo64> and messing up the size
[13:41] <kbroulik> Can I install qt creator without downloading that qt-docs which is 85 mb ?
[13:41] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  the laptop is XXXX x 900
[13:41] <Gentoo64> 1440x900 i take it
[13:41] <Gentoo64> put that on 1920x1080 screen and it will be bigger.
[13:42] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  no i have the laptop display turned off.  The tv is on 1080p for sure, but the login manager doesnt change when i set the desktop res.
[13:42] <llutz_> kbroulik: just don't installl recommends
[13:42] <kbroulik> okay I'll try if Muon can handle such stuff
[13:42] <llutz_> kbroulik: apt-get install --no-install-recommends qtcreator
[13:43] <kbroulik> llutz_: thx :)
[13:43] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, hope someone else can help, ive never had to mess with that myself so im really not sure sorry
[13:43] <JPinheiro_> Hi!
[13:43] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  I hate Unity
[13:43] <Gentoo64> sirsean1227, you dont have to use it
[13:43] <sirsean1227> i know
[13:43] <phper_> Hello. Any ideas why portable ubuntu 4 doesn't start on my computer?
[13:44] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  Have you heard of anyone being able to get ubuntu to work on a tablet?
[13:44] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  like an acer tablet ?
[13:44] <iceroot> phper_: what is portable ubuntu 4? doesnt sound like a supported one
[13:44] <JPinheiro_> Use Gnome 3
[13:44] <Gentoo64> havent paid much attention tbh. its probably more than possible
[13:45] <hc96> Hi! I'm using Ubuntu 11.04 with gnome. My down panel is 48px high. I want to have 4 application launchers in 2x2-formation. How would I do that?
[13:45] <Gentoo64> brb coffee
[13:45] <sirsean1227> Gentoo64,  COFFEEEEE!
[13:45] <phper_> iceroot: it's ubuntu that runs as a portable windows application.
[13:45] <JPinheiro_> Has anyone been able to network print using 11.10?
[13:45] <sandra_> Say does anyone here use xorg-edgers PPA for their video driver needs ?
[13:45] <iceroot> phper_: never heard of it
[13:46] <iceroot> !anyone | sandra_
[13:46] <iceroot> !anyone | JPinheiro_
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> jeses, thats hideous: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/portable-ubuntu-ubuntu-system-running-as-a-windows-application.html
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: ^
[13:47] <sirsean1227> i like turtles
[13:47] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: doesnt sound like a supported one
[13:47] <sandra_> it is my real question lol
[13:47] <iceroot> ActionParsnip: different kernel and so on
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> phper_: I suggest you contact the developer
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> iceroot: pretty much
[13:47] <iceroot> sandra_: ok, someone is saying yes, so you question is finished?
[13:48] <iceroot> sandra_: or do you have a real question?
[13:48] <sandra_> iceroot, no one said they use it
[13:48] <sandra_> iceroot, and yes it's a real question
[13:48] <iceroot> sandra_: i am using it
[13:48] <llutz_> sandra_: no its a pointless meta-question
[13:49] <auronandace> sandra_: i hope you realise that ppas are unsupported thirdparty packages
[13:49] <iceroot> sandra_: so i am happy to answer your question and no other question is coming about that ppa
[13:50] <sandra_> iceroot, does your use of the xorg-edgers PPA result in your Unity desktop disappearing ?
[13:50] <spiekey> Hello!
[13:50] <iceroot> sandra_: you see that your first question was useless?
[13:50] <alaing> ActionParsnip:  did you see that pastebin?
[13:50] <iceroot> sandra_: because instead of the "stupid! anyone-question you had a real question
[13:50] <spiekey> how can i get the linux-header for 2.6.38-11-genericin Ubuntu 11.10? I does not seem to be in the repo anymore
[13:50] <auronandace> sandra_: there is the real question
[13:51] <iceroot> sandra_: 11.10 is using 3.0 and not 2.6.38
[13:51] <iceroot> sandra_: wrong nick
[13:51] <iceroot> spiekey: 11.10 is using linux 3.0 and not 2.6.38
[13:51] <iceroot> spiekey: so you need the headers for your current kernel which is 3.0
[13:52] <spiekey> iceroot, i know. Stilll...i just upgraded and want to use the last Kernel... :)
[13:52] <sandra_> iceroot, I did state my question earlier but be that as it may I had to log in using Unity 2D because my 3D unity would not come up .
[13:52] <iceroot> spiekey: and why not 3.0.0.x?
[13:53] <sandra_> iceroot, do you know of a way of restoring the 3D Unity desktop?
[13:53] <iceroot> sandra_: sorry, no
[13:54] <auronandace> sandra_: try not using a ppa for xorg
[13:54] <sandra_> iceroot, Unity 2D uses Gnome 3.2.0 not gnome 2
[13:54] <auronandace> sandra_: ppas are not supported for a reason
[13:55] <JPinheiro_> iceroot, sorry... I'm new to this...
[13:55] <iceroot> JPinheiro_: no problem
[13:56] <JPinheiro_> But I can't network print with my 11.10...
[13:56] <sandra_> auronandace, I'm new to Linux on the whole but PPA's do work well by & large. OF course I understand what your saying.
[13:56] <iceroot> JPinheiro_: any error messages? what have you tried? what is not working? what printer and so on
[13:56] <ilembitov> Hi, all. I have just installed Ubuntu 11.10 and installed catalyst drivers for my ATI Radeon Mobility HD 4330. But when I try to run AMD Catalyst Control Center, it says that it can't find my card. What do I do?
[13:56] <sandra_> But's it's obvious that Ubuntu users use them .
[13:57] <auronandace> sandra_: ppa is only specific to ubuntu
[13:57] <auronandace> !ppa | sandra_
[13:57] <auronandace> sandra_: bottom line is if you want support for a ppa, ask the ppa provider
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> sandra_: ppa's are not supported by the community
[13:58] <auronandace> sandra_: especially for something as fundamental as xorg
[13:58] <sandra_> aronandace, Yes I know that that's why I am directing my question to my fellow Ubuntu users who do use PPA if you don't use them that's fine.
[13:58] <IT_GUY> anyone else having issue where brasero locks up in 11.10? I can burn an iso then close it, then if I relaunch it it refuses to launch unless I log out and log back in.
[13:58] <JPinheiro_> iceroot: Canon Pixma iP4300, with and without TurboPrint, I can't find the printer on the network, no firewall, TurboPrint says the server has no such service...
[13:59] <auronandace> sandra_: you ask the provider, not the users in the official support channel
[13:59] <MonkeyDust> sandra_: find out who created the ppa and contact that person
[14:00] <sandra_> aurondace, I asked because I've seen others in this chat channel talk about their use of them
[14:00] <sandra_> And perhaps someone here might have a answer
[14:00] <coraxx> anyone know of a website where there is a database/collection of LibreOffice Impress Templates ? (found a few templates on some websites...would like to have a bigger selection)
[14:02] <sandra_> *shaking head* amazing that one has to limit one's resources when it' dealing with Ubuntu
[14:02] <coraxx> sandra_: what was your original question ...I just logged on so I didn't see it ?
[14:03] <sandra_> oh btw I did ask the provider of the Xorg-edgers PPA the question
[14:03] <Myrtti> sandra_: wrongdoings of others don't justify yours
[14:03] <auronandace> sandra_: i find it amazing that people don't understand what unsupported means
[14:03] <alaing> ActionParsnip: did you see the pastebin?
[14:03] <sandra_> take a deep breath gang...
[14:04] <sandra_> PPA's do have a vaule  point , and yes I understand that they are usupported but Ubuntu users do use them and some of them work very very well.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> alaing: can you PM me it please, I'm in and out of the channel
[14:04] <Shiggs|i5> hello all... I don't run Ubuntu, but I was hoping I could get some help with UEFI Grub booting on a MacBook 3,1. :)
[14:05] <llutz_> sandra_: all correct, but #ubuntu is the WRONG place to ask about
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Shiggs|i5: this is ubuntu support only
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Shiggs|i5: try in #apple
[14:05] <Shiggs|i5> ...
[14:05] <sandra_> coraxx, thanks for the offer of help
[14:05] <conntrack> How do I know if my jumpbox is secure?
[14:06] <Shiggs|i5> I would, except #apple is invite only
[14:06] <Shiggs|i5> all I need is general UEFI booting help
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Shiggs|i5: this is ubuntu support only, sorry
[14:06] <conntrack> I have access to it
[14:07] <sandra_> coraxx, What I did was use a PPA that was suggested to me the xorg-edgers PPA  I used it but lost the use of my 3D Unity desktop . But I am able to log into my Unity 2D desktop . What I was hoping is that perhaps someone in the channel used it and knows of a solution .
[14:07] <conntrack> Guess I might need support to fly in and fix it
[14:07] <tkruise> cant I use fixedsys font on ubuntu?
[14:07] <conntrack> Or drive
[14:07] <JPinheiro_> iceroot: can print from the main machine
[14:07] <JPinheiro_> can't print from other machines
[14:08] <weside> morning all
[14:08] <JPinheiro_> iceroot: I' reinstalled cups
[14:08] <yoga> This there something like open a.txt in bash to open a file with the associated app, as in OS X ?
[14:08] <nik_> Hi!
[14:09] <JPinheiro_> but cups seems to have more than 200 reported bugs...
[14:09] <ro_70s> when I press control+C  to interrupt a process at the cmdline, it messes up the prompt afterwards. how can I fix that?
[14:09] <MartyMccFly> yoga: kstart
[14:09] <llutz_> ro_70s: "reset"
[14:09] <Pici> ro_70s: type reset?
[14:09] <Newbeeans> How do I install Flash Player?
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> ro_70s: use && instead of ;
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> !flash | Newbeeans
[14:10] <auronandace> !flash | Newbeeans
[14:10] <weside> I just installed ubuntu 11.10 had problems with Unity freezing up when doing a search in the dash, anybody else experience this?
[14:10] <sandra_> Neweeans, I see you have managed to install Ubuntu now ?
[14:10] <conntrack> I guess the support guy would be pissed having to fly in and fix some handy work
[14:11] <conntrack> On my jump box
[14:11] <ro_70s> Pici: llutz_:  :D yeah, reset works but I mean it just messes up the history and prompt , instead of drawing it correctly. the whole terminal isnt getting thrashed, this is most every time I use control C.
[14:11] <general-alvin> where is the lxde room?
[14:11] <auronandace> !lubuntu | general-alvin
[14:11] <ro_70s> Pici: llutz_: like it will write ^C on the line where there prompt is at and then not draw the $ at the end.
[14:11] <Calahan> Hi, I'm using 10.10 server edition, it was necessary to run GUI and installed ubuntu-desktop, problem is when i connect it trought vnc there is no way to get taskbar menu. Any ideas? Please /msg if have time to help.
[14:12] <coraxx> sandra_: ok ... I would uninstall the packages from the PPA, that apparently didn't work ...using the Synaptic Package Manager (within it you can select the section called 'Origins' on then the PPA, there by showing you all packages installed from that place) ... secondly I would make a copy of your xorg.conf file (located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ) ...and then delete the current one ...then...
[14:12] <sandra_> Newbeeans, if you would like a quick and painless way to add flash is to go to this site provided Firefox is your web browser of choice
[14:12] <coraxx> ...restart your PC and see if it returns to 'normal'
[14:12] <auronandace> general-alvin: you can ask here too
[14:12] <conntrack> I'd expect the support guy to disappear up his own ass
[14:12] <Newbeeans> sandra_: I tried but it failed to find any plugins :)
[14:12] <Pici> ro_70s: My shell works fine if I do that.
[14:12] <weside> well my fix was switching from unity and just using the Gnome-shell
[14:12] <Newbeeans> brb
[14:13] <anonymous> #4chan
[14:13] <hwilde> how to stop iphone automount but allow other devices to automount?  a udev example would be nice maybe?  don't just say udev rules.
[14:13] <general-alvin> auronandace: how can i add up three apps to run when digital clock is clicked? :D
[14:13] <resus> thank you Pici
[14:13] <ro_70s> guess I'll try over at #bash -- thanks Pici: llutz_:
[14:13] <Pici> ro_70s: Yeah, sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[14:14] <auronandace> general-alvin: sorry, don't follow, i use xfce
[14:14] <Pici> conntrack: Is there a support question in there somewhere? Or are you just looking to vent?
[14:14] <general-alvin> auronandace: ok
[14:14] <JPinheiro_> iceroot: need more details?
[14:14] <weside> looks like my question slipped though the cracks, i am outta here.
[14:16] <conntrack> pici: Yeah I'll go close off the vent now :)
[14:16] <coraxx> anyone know of a website where there is a database/collection of LibreOffice Impress Templates ? (found a few templates on some websites...would like to have a bigger variaty)
[14:17] <Calahan> Anyone able to assist with GUI ubuntu-desktop problem, i have vnc4server and when i connect trought vnc there is no taskbar menu. Any ideas?
[14:17] <sandra_> coraxx, Thank you so much for your help :-)
[14:17] <coraxx> sandra_: your welcome :-)
[14:18] <hwilde> Calahan, did u try vino-server
[14:18] <sandra_> Newbeeans, do you have access to the Ubuntu software center ?
[14:18] <Calahan> hwilde no i have not tried vino-server
[14:18] <auronandace> sandra_: he left
[14:19] <ro_70s> Pici: llutz_: turns out you can fix that bash problem with set echo-control-characters off in .bashrc
[14:19] <Pici> ro_70s: thanks for the tip (I'm a zsh user though) :)
[14:19] <BrixSat> when i make insmod viawget.ko i get how come? "insmod: error inserting 'viawget.ko': -1 Operation not permitted"
[14:19] <sandra_> auronandace, Thanks for the FYI :-) he had a lot of troubles just installing Ubuntu.
[14:20] <coraxx> BrixSat: remember to put 'sudo' before the insmod commando
[14:20] <BrixSat> coraxx:  same :p thing
[14:20] <auronandace> sandra_: i know, i helped too, he ended up reinstalling and all his problems dissappeared
[14:21] <sandra_> auronandace, yes it was suggested he reinstall glad to know it solved his problem.
[14:23] <BrixSat> ?
[14:23] <coraxx> BrixSat: What kindda kernel module is it ? (what does it do) ....I might now be permitted to be inserted while in 'user mode' ...I might only be at boot time.
[14:23] <coraxx> BrixSat: *I =It
[14:23] <BrixSat> coraxx:  a wifi module (for via vt6655)
[14:23] <coraxx> BrixSat: *now=not   '''gee I'm a bad typist today ;-)
[14:24] <lupusarcanus> Hello, um, I'm not sure how to ask this but: I'm having a problem getting my Ubuntu mail server to work. Anyone so kind enough to help me?
[14:24] <neckoox> hi ! anyone managed to share an internet connection with ubuntu here?
[14:24] <BrixSat> coraxx:  :)
[14:24] <coraxx> BrixSat: ok... is the ndiswrapper module by any chance running also ?
[14:24] <BrixSat> ndiswrapper may be
[14:24] <osborn666> Just an update. Couldn't boot after upgrading to 11.10 today, fchk issue with ntfs partion, fixed by turning fchk off in /etc/fstab. thanks for the help.
[14:25] <coraxx> BrixSat: Then that might be your problem ...you need to make sure its not loaded... before loading the korrekt Kernel Module
[14:25] <BrixSat> coraxx:  how do i view if it is loaded?
[14:26] <helo> does the nvidia binary driver and 64-bit 11.10 generally play well?
[14:26] <shadowhywind> Hay all, i need some help with xorg.conf, I have three monitors (laptop, external, and tv). I'm trying to get xrandr to work so I can switch between the three (I'm not trying to duel screen, just single screen at a time) any ideas?
[14:26] <OerHeks> helo yes, depending on your videocard.
[14:26] <server_> anybody can help me about how to add user in LDAP ?
[14:27] <helo> know if 8600gs is a problem?
[14:27] <server_> or how to connect to server from client in LDAP ?
[14:28] <coraxx> BrixSat: 'lsmod' shows you the modules loaded.   'lsmod | grep ndis'  will show you all module names loaded that contains 'ndis'
[14:28] <OerHeks> helo test it ? i have no info about 8600 issues
[14:28] <server_> or how to connect to LDAP server
[14:28] <BrixSat> coraxx:  unloaded :)
[14:28] <BrixSat> coraxx:  now i get "insmod: error inserting 'viawget.ko': -1 Invalid module format"
[14:29] <coraxx> BrixSat: Also make sure that your wireless-adapter is switched on (if its switched off or the radio is off you might also get that same error you described)
[14:29] <BrixSat> coraxx: by switched on you mean pci card inserted?
[14:29] <coraxx> BrixSat: The you might be running a Kernel Module that is not compiled with your current kernel-version ....did you compile it yourself ?
[14:29] <remoteCTRL3> hi guys!
[14:29] <conntrack> haha
[14:29] <BrixSat> coraxx:  yes
[14:30] <remoteCTRL3> would you do me the courtesy and tell me how to install kde and xfce on oneiric?
[14:30] <llutz_> remoteCTRL3: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop xubuntu-desktop
[14:30] <lupusarcanus> Well, going by the IRC guidelines, I think it is an OK time for me to try at least once more -- I'm having an issue with my mail server. I set it up according to the Postfix Wiki page, but when I try to send an e-mail to my gmail account via telnet, it says access denied.
[14:30] <coraxx> BrixSat: Wireless-cards can have a 'deactive' switch ....usuallly its a psysical-key on the laptop.
[14:31] <BrixSat> coraxx:  this is a desktop pc so no hardware switch
[14:31] <remoteCTRL3> llutz thanks dude!
[14:32] <cjs226> Ubuntu 11.04: I've run "/etc/init.d# update-rc.d myprocess_stop stop 1 0 1 6 ." which adds the appropriate links to /etc/rc0.d rc1.d and rc6.d.  however the scripts are called only until AFTER the first reboot.  any ideas?
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTRL3: you can install minimal xfce with xfce4
[14:32] <conntrack> hmm, I think my pci card needs re seating
[14:32] <coraxx> BrixSat: ok ... then I can only suggest to seek support at the website where you got the source-code ...maybe others have had similar problems... sounds like a software issue.
[14:32] <phper_> Hello. Any knows of portable ubuntu?
[14:32] <conntrack> Thanks for the reminder
[14:32] <remoteCTRL3> ActionParsnip: nice to see you once more and thanks! :]
[14:32] <zoLevDotCom> Hi, guys!
[14:32] <BrixSat> coraxx:  thanks :)
[14:32] <coraxx> anyone know of a website where there is a database/collection of LibreOffice Impress Templates ? (found a few templates on some websites...would like to have a bigger variaty)
[14:32] <sandra_> BrixSat, this happend to me once and what I did was tighten antenna and i was back up and running.
[14:33] <coraxx> BrixSat: yw...np :-)
[14:33] <remoteCTRL3> how can i customize the sidebar of unity?
[14:33] <llutz_> lupusarcanus: check "/var/log/mail.err"
[14:33] <BrixSat> sandra_:  this is more than a simple antena tight :p
[14:33] <Myrtti> lupusarcanus: you could try your luck in #ubuntu-server too
[14:33] <llutz_> lupusarcanus: better #postfix
[14:34] <Myrtti> or that.
[14:34] <BrixSat> coraxx:  may it be the gcc version im compiling?
[14:34] <sandra_> BrixSat, good luck in my case I was banging my head against the wall for over 5 hours  before I realized the antenna was loose .
[14:35] <BrixSat> sandra_:  i have 6 machines all with same hardware and cloned imgs and all with same problem so antena i supose it will not be
[14:35] <lupusarcanus> llutz_ I'm sorry I didn't know there were channels like those! Boy am I bone-headed. Anyway, if it helps any, there is nothing in mail.err.
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTRL3: drag items to it, there are other configs in ccsm
[14:36] <remoteCTRL3> ActionParsnip: oh, so i need to install that first... i would liek to fixate it, you know
[14:36] <llutz_> lupusarcanus: also nothing suspicous in "/var/log/mail.log"?
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTRL3: how do you mean 'fixate'?
[14:37] <xgt001> anybody knows here how to delete jupiter config files completely?
[14:37] <sandra_> BrixSat, I wish you the best
[14:37] <BrixSat> sandra_:  thanks
[14:37] <remoteCTRL3> ActionParsnip: erm... i meant lock it so that it doesnt vanish
[14:38] <Toph2> i have recently upgraded to 11.10 and now my computer often hangs for periods of time with lots of HD activity. Also, on HTop I notice Compiz taking space. I though Metacity was gnomes window manager by default
[14:39] <coraxx> BrixSat: it shouldn't matter as longs as it compiles ... the kernel header-files and kernel-source files is what matters...if they don't match your current kernel version you might run into issues.  Gotta go...good luck :-)
[14:39] <lupusarcanus> llutz_, After having checked mai.log, I do see that every attempt to connect to Google's servers timed out. What's really confusing me is that the connections were attempted on port 25, when I am trying to use port 587 and even logged into my server via telnet using port 587. I can't use port 25 because my ISP blocks it.:(
[14:41] <xgt001> people, i have this only last gripe preventing switch to ubuntu.... video playback is super noisy (noisy as in fan noise) and frame drops are high too.. some help pls
[14:41] <llutz_> lupusarcanus: you might need to define a transport-entry for google, using 587/submission then. but as i said, better to ask at #postfix
[14:41] <gulzar> How to show my wireless connection (GPRS) info with Conky?
[14:41] <BrixSat> any toughts what this might be? http://paste.ubuntu.com/718852/
[14:42] <Helsinkiii> hi
[14:42] <Helsinkiii> I just upgraded to 11.10 and my Brother Laser Printer does not work at all
[14:42] <Helsinkiii> I'm kind of screwed because I have a report to hand in and I need to print this
[14:43] <BrixSat> Helsinkiii:  is it conneted via lan usb lpt1?
[14:43] <Helsinkiii> holy smokes how do i check
[14:43] <llutz_> man msmtprc
[14:43] <llutz_> oops
[14:43] <BrixSat> Helsinkiii:  see it on the connection to the pc :)
[14:43] <sandra_> Helsinkiii, Welcome to the wonderful world of Ubuntu 11.10 lol my printer stopped working too
[14:43] <lupusarcanus> llutz_ I just had a look at Gmail settings, and they are pretty basic and don't seem to include something like that.
[14:43] <BrixSat> btw after upgrade did you reboot=
[14:43] <xgt001> any help?
[14:44] <Helsinkiii> oh I mean this is bad
[14:44] <Helsinkiii> I'm freaking out
[14:44]  * alaing is cranking up the Red Hot Chili Pepper Tunes
[14:44]  * edbian loves RHCP
[14:44] <BrixSat> xgt001: what video carD?
[14:44] <sandra_> Helsinkiii, But this is what I did I went to HP website and downloaded their printer driver and glad to say I'm back in the printing saddle again :-)
[14:44] <Helsinkiii> BrixSat, it's via usb
[14:44] <BrixSat> Helsinkiii:  did you rebooted after upgrade?
[14:44] <alaing> edbian: I'm with you....
[14:45] <alaing> lol
[14:45] <xgt001> BrixSat, amd 6370m
[14:45] <Helsinkiii> BrixSat, yes
[14:45] <xgt001> i am using prop drivers as well
[14:45] <sandra_> Helsinkiii, Pehaps downloading your driver from Brother may help too
[14:45] <BrixSat> xgt001:  go to #ati
[14:45] <Helsinkiii> BrixSat,should I reinstall the "cups" driver?
[14:45] <BrixSat> so remove the old print and install again :)
[14:46] <Helsinkiii> BrixSat, what do you mean remove the old print
[14:46] <Helsinkiii> the driver?
[14:46] <BrixSat> Helsinkiii:  the printer from printer manager
[14:47] <server_> #LDAP
[14:48] <Helsinkiii> BrixSat, it only gives me permission for serial port and networked printer
[14:48] <Helsinkiii> BrixSat, but it's a USB printer
[14:49] <sandra_> Well my fellow Ubuntu inmates enjoy & have a wonderful day and solutions :-)
[14:50] <remoteCTRL3> ActionParsnip: i wonder why software center wont find neither kubuntu nor xubuntu...
[14:50] <auronandace> remoteCTRL3: use synaptic instead
[14:51] <remoteCTRL3> auronandace: i use software center only when i cannot find something with apt-cache...
[14:51] <remoteCTRL3> ok guys, it was a pleasure
[14:51] <sandra_> remoteCTRL3, Xubuntu does use ubuntu software center by default in the 11.10 version
[14:51]  * remoteCTRL3 -> @xfce testing
[14:52] <auronandace> remoteCTRL3: xfce is my favourite
[14:52] <llutz_> isn't softwarecentre just another frontend to apt?
[14:52] <remoteCTRL3> sandra_: somewhat interesting: software cdenter does find xubuntu and kubuntu but ONLY if you type xubuntu-desktop if you search for xubuntu desktop it wont
[14:52] <remoteCTRL3> veeery veird
[14:53] <edbian> llutz_: yes
[14:53] <remoteCTRL3> auronandace: i was using kde some ages ago, then gnome, but i dont like unity, so i am looking for alternatives. gome is also unfinished imho...
[14:53] <auronandace> remoteCTRL3: lxde is another option
[14:53] <remoteCTRL3> auronandace: yes i heard of it...
[14:54] <auronandace> remoteCTRL3: and enlightenment
[14:54] <remoteCTRL3> but i am actually not looking for a lightweight desktop but for one less cumbersome...
[14:54] <Melior> hey, hvor do i set time in ubuntu server. my time is 1 day ahead of my normal time
[14:54] <sandra_> remoteCTRL3, well the good news it does display and work by default under Xubuntu :-)
[14:54] <remoteCTRL3> auronandace: enlightenment is also not for me...
[14:54] <Guest88905> hello i   wana ask some thing
[14:54] <Guest88905> can any one help  me
[14:54] <auronandace> sandra_: he meant he couldn't find the xubuntu package using the software centre
[14:55] <remoteCTRL3> sandra_: ermm... what exactly?
[14:55] <sandra_> oic sorry my bad
[14:55] <mneptok> remoteCTRL3: the xfce4 package will pull in just the DE, and not all the associated apps you'll get in -desktop (e.g. Pidgin, gmusicbrowser, Abiword, etc)
[14:55] <remoteCTRL3> ah... kk:)
[14:55] <Guest88905> sandra i use  dell inspiron
[14:55] <Guest88905> i want  drivers for ubuntu
[14:55] <remoteCTRL3> mneptok: i see...
[14:56] <mneptok> Guest88905: for what hardware?
[14:56] <Myrtti> Guest88905: please be more specific
[14:56] <Guest88905> for vga
[14:56] <Guest88905> i have dell inspiron n5010 core i 3
[14:56] <mneptok> Guest88905: who makes the video chipset in that Dell?
[14:56] <Guest88905> intel
[14:56] <mneptok> Guest88905: the drivers are already in the Linux kernel.
[14:57] <sandra_> tc guy's
[14:57] <Guest88905>  i cant    make use of if
[14:57] <Guest88905> i new here
[14:57] <Guest88905> can you help me
[14:57] <remoteCTRL3> mneptok: Guest88905 ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470 1024MB
[14:57] <remoteCTRL3> intel??
[14:57] <mneptok> remoteCTRL3: huh>
[14:57] <llutz_> Guest88905: lspci|grep VGA
[14:58] <remoteCTRL3> not according to this he doesnt: http://geizhals.at/540135
[14:58] <remoteCTRL3> different model, my bad...
[14:59] <remoteCTRL3> ok, guys, thanks once more for your help, see you another day! :)
[14:59] <mneptok> Guest88905: please do not PM me without asking.
[15:00] <mneptok> Guest88905: ask your questions here, please. i may have to go AFK and someone else may help you. if you'd like my undivided attention in a PM, we can discuss my hourly consulting rates. ;)
[15:01] <Guest88905> mnetok  ru there
[15:01] <Pici> !tab | Guest88905
[15:01] <Guest88905> hello
[15:01] <SilfenX> <can someone explain to me why I cant get my samba shares to work properly? I can mount them from my win7 box using the account made during server installation, but all other accounts fail
[15:01] <Guest88905> any one plz help me
[15:02] <remoteCTRL3> mneptok: really nice hjomepage by the way!
[15:02] <Guest88905> i shall be very thank ful to him or her
[15:02] <auronandace> Guest88905: as llutz asked, show us: lspci|grep VGA
[15:02] <mneptok> remoteCTRL3: i got it from Santa. :)
[15:02] <pavan> hello guys, I downloaded a theme for 11.10(using unity) through repo and after installing it I tried to activate it bye using appearance by right clicking, but I didn't find the installed theme, how to rectify this error
[15:02] <remoteCTRL3> except i dont understand how one can be a libertarian and a buddhist at the same time as i believe them to be mutually exclusive, but never mind...:)
[15:03] <remoteCTRL3> so but now finally! time to quit work, bye guys
[15:03] <Newbeeans> !flash
[15:04] <Guest88905> hey guyzzzzzzzzzzz
[15:04] <Guest88905> plz help me out
[15:04] <MonsieurBon> Hi
[15:04] <llutz_> Guest88905: you won't get any help if you don't give requested info
[15:04] <shadowhywind1> I'm running into a small problem. I have 3 displays which I'm trying to set it up so only a single display works at a time, however I can't get it to work, any thoughts
[15:04] <Pici> Guest88905: You need to tell your helpers if you don't understand their instructions.
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Guest88905: try stating your issue
[15:05] <Guest88905> pici come in private chat plz
[15:05] <Guest88905> i wana aask u some thing
[15:05] <Pici> Guest88905: I'm not available to help at the moment. Please ask in-channel.
[15:05] <M4d3L> hi. anyone know funny command line annimation
[15:06] <Pici> !ot | M4d3L
[15:06] <xgt001> M4d3L, what you mean by funny command line annimation?
[15:06] <Guest88905> i type lspci|grep VGA
[15:06] <Guest88905> in terminil
[15:06] <Guest88905> it gaves 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[15:07] <Guest88905>  what should i do now for driver
[15:07] <Guest88905> what should i do  for vga driver
[15:07] <Guest88905> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[15:07] <Pici> Guest88905: stop repeating.
[15:08] <mneptok> Guest88905: the drivers are already in the Linux kernel.
[15:08] <nik_> Hi!
[15:08] <M4d3L> @Pici nobody is on offtopic. lol
[15:08] <mneptok> Guest88905: there is nothing to do. you have the driver. go in peace.
[15:08] <Guest88905> mneptok plz join me in private
[15:08] <Guest88905> i wana ask you some thing
[15:09] <Guest88905> can you help me me how to  install drivers form kernel
[15:09] <auronandace> M4d3L: do you have a support question?
[15:09] <Guest88905> i m new here
[15:09] <Myrtti> Guest88905: they're already installed and in use
[15:09] <Myrtti> Guest88905: nothing to do
[15:09]  * alaing has sublime playing in the background
[15:09] <mneptok> Guest88905: the drivers are installed. they are built-in. there is nothing you need to do.
[15:09] <Guest88905> ever  thing is ok but vga driver is not ok
[15:10] <cypha> llutz_, still around?
[15:10] <Guest88905> any one plz help me out using team veiwer
[15:10] <gulzar> Please Help. How to install AWN lucido in 11.10?
[15:10] <Guest88905> hey guyz mine is backtrack 4 r2
[15:10] <server_> anybody know about LDAP ?
[15:10] <mneptok> !backtrack > Guest88905
[15:10] <auronandace> Guest88905: backtrack isn't supported here
[15:11] <Guest88905> ubottu can  we chat in private
[15:12] <Guest88905> :) i m too
[15:12] <nik_> /query ubottu
[15:12] <Guest88905> nik_ aur humman
[15:13] <Guest88905> any one human male here
[15:13] <dr_willis> theres no humans here.
[15:13] <auronandace> Guest88905: go to #backtrack-linux
[15:13] <Newbeeans> :))
[15:13] <s1n4> haha
[15:13] <h00k> !ot | Guest88905
[15:14] <dr_willis> Im often scared by the people i see using backtrack....
[15:14] <llutz_> cypha: yes
[15:14] <auronandace> dr_willis: likewise, especially when they think it is secure and "for hackers"
[15:15] <Tm_T> please don't continue the offtopic discussion
[15:15] <auronandace> Guest88905: stop sending me dcc requests
[15:15] <Newbeeans> Flashplayer completed :D
[15:16] <blognewb> hi guys how do you check using SSH if a command is already installed
[15:16] <Guest88905> some one plz join me in dcc
[15:16] <Guest88905> i wana help
[15:16] <slakcphil> blognewb use which <command>
[15:16] <auronandace> !backtrack | Guest88905
[15:16] <dr_willis> you mean when usint the shell. ?
[15:16] <OerHeks> Guest88905,  my best advice, join the #Backtrack-linux irc for your vga problem
[15:17] <dr_willis> Guest88905:  we dont use or support BT linux here.. it has its own support rooms and forums..
[15:17] <yeats> !ati
[15:17] <slakcphil> like `which cp` would give you the direct path to the file and if it's in bin you will see it or use `locate` to find it
[15:18] <slakcphil> it may be in a libexec dir
[15:18] <Helsinkiii> hi
[15:18] <Helsinkiii> emergency
[15:18] <blognewb> hey slakcphil it says bash: which: command not found
[15:18] <llutz_> blognewb: apt-get install debianutils
[15:19] <slakcphil> asdf
[15:19] <Helsinkiii> when I try opening synaptic it says that a package needs to be  reinstalled
[15:19] <slakcphil> `/usr/bin/which`
[15:19] <Helsinkiii> I tried removing it and it doesn't work
[15:19] <slakcphil> no backticks
[15:20] <dr_willis> which which...
[15:20] <Helsinkiii> when I try to remove it from Janitor it says system could not complete
[15:20] <Helsinkiii> I'm very screwed and I need immediate help
[15:20] <Helsinkiii> freaking out
[15:20] <RaTTuS|BIG> whats up Helsinkiii
[15:20] <dr_willis> Helsinkiii:  what package?
[15:20] <Helsinkiii> i upgraded to 11.10 and my printer stopped working
[15:21] <Helsinkiii> i tried to reinstall the driver from the Brother website
[15:21] <Helsinkiii> and it went bad from there
[15:21] <Helsinkiii> Janitor stopped working, synaptic doesn't work and neither does apt-get
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Helsinkiii: reinstall the deb in terminal
[15:21] <dr_willis> Hmm. My brother printer had drivers allready in the repos. :)
[15:21] <llutz_> dr_willis: lucky you are
[15:21] <dr_willis> Helsinkiii:  what was the exact file name and package you are refering to?
[15:23] <bmomjian1> Just upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 and have the problem with my T43 screen not reappearing after the lid is shut, and configured to do nothing.  Anyone find a fix to this.  An hour of Google searches did not find a fix.
[15:24] <bmomjian1> With 10.04, F1, F7 fixed it
[15:24] <Helsinkiii> ActionParsnip, it says errors were encountered while processing it
[15:25] <bmomjian1> I tried ForceEnablePipeA but that is not supported in xorg in 10.10
[15:26] <vivanov> after installing oneiric amd64 desktop it doesnt boot -- Operating System Not Found
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Helsinkiii: could force install it but it may cause more issues, you may have yo install a lot of packages manually to get squared off
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> vivanov: did grub install ok?
[15:26] <Helsinkiii> ActionParsnip, how should I proceed?
[15:26] <vivanov> ActionParsnip: no idea
[15:27] <vivanov> ActionParsnip: grub doesnt appear on screen
[15:27] <vivanov> guess not
[15:27] <cypha> llutz_, can I make outgoing url look like asdf.zapto.org?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> vivanov: if you hold shift at boot do you see a text screen ?
[15:28] <llutz_> cypha: "outgoing url"?
[15:28] <cypha> llutz_, cuz my server is trying to connect to facebook's api, but needs the same URL that i registered
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Helsinkiii: if it were me I would force install the package, see if it helps
[15:28] <cypha> for login
[15:28] <Zta> How do I enable sloppy focus these days?
[15:28] <llutz_> cypha: no idea, sry
[15:28] <vivanov> ActionParsnip: no
[15:28] <cypha> k
[15:28] <ct529> hi .... some of the files in home directory have very strange time stamps ..... for example 1956-06-29. Is that even possible????
[15:28] <vivanov> ActionParsnipoperating system not found
[15:28] <blognewb> hey guys is it possible for sysadmins to restrict access to certain subfolders?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> vivanov: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video/   you could take an easy route and reinstall but the botloader simply needs putting on
[15:29] <vivanov> ActionParsnip: great thx
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> !permissions | blognewb
[15:29] <osborn666> vivanov: Do you have an ntfs partition?
[15:29] <vivanov> osborn666: ext4
[15:29] <blognewb> im on plesk and the option there for SSH access is: "bin/bash (chrooted)", and when i try to locate the error_log i couldnt find it
[15:29] <Menthane> Guys I've removed the global menu but the close, minimise and maximise buttons still hide in the top left. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1868680
[15:29] <osborn666> okok nvm then, got some weird issues with mounting disk after upgrading
[15:29] <llutz_> ct529: regular files? i'd suggest runnign fsck
[15:30] <Helsinkiii> ActionParsnip, --force-all doesn't work
[15:31] <mneptok> vivanov: what make/model of machine? does it use UEFI?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> Helsinkiii: oh boy, you got some big issues
[15:31] <chihlang> hi
[15:31] <chihlang> I come from Taiwan
[15:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> Helsinkiii - save off your data externall and restart from scratch
[15:31] <Reaper> I finally got gnome to work on 11.10!
[15:31] <hadidonk> i tired since ubuntu dicided switch unity,... my compy can't runing well
[15:31] <Reaper> I gotta admit its very nice !
[15:32] <hadidonk> ofc i replace with katya linux mint
[15:32] <auronandace> !mint | hadidonk
[15:32] <chihlang> Is there anyone know how to setup SMPlayer to work
[15:33] <ct529> llutz_: what do you mean?
[15:33] <chihlang> me ?
[15:33] <llutz_> ct529:are those files with strange timestamp just regular files? if yes, i'd suggest runnign fsck
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> chihlang: works without any extra config here
[15:33] <ct529> llutz_: sorry, what do you mean with regular files .... and why should fsck fix it
[15:33] <ct529> llutz_: as in not device files or links?
[15:33] <llutz_> ct529: eg ~/.gvfs is not a regular file
[15:34] <yeats> !panels
[15:34] <ct529> llutz_: well, some of them are hidden files some of them just files
[15:34] <mengu> hello everyone. i am using ubuntu 11.10 and until today i was using forticlient ssl vpn client. this one: http://internal.enterprisecomponent.com/download/FortiClientSSLVPN/forticlientsslvpn_linux_4.0.2010.tar.gz
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Helsinkiii: what package are you trying to reinstall?
[15:34] <chihlang> It tell me need code
[15:34] <mengu> today i got some updates so i went straight and updated via synaptic. and then forticlient stopped linux.
[15:34] <mengu> *working
[15:35] <mengu> how do i know what exactly is the problem
[15:35] <dr_willis> !find sudo apt-get install conky
[15:35] <dr_willis> doh.. wrong paste.
[15:35] <hadidonk> before i use maverick so far so good, but after dicided to replace with ubuntu 11.10 my compy can't runing well
[15:36] <llutz_> ct529: if you haven't created/copyied those files from any other filesystem, it _might be_ a fs-corruption, you should check
[15:36] <ct529> llutz_: most of them are copied over from within a virtual machine that crashed badly
[15:36] <hadidonk> after that i replace katya and may be i'm not sure will replace again gentoo or arch
[15:37] <mneptok> hadidonk: felicitations. do you have an Ubuntu support question?
[15:38] <jchen> ?
[15:39] <hadidonk> unity can't runing well on my Satellite L300
[15:39] <mneptok> hadidonk: it's installed now, and you are having problems with it?
[15:39] <hadidonk> not i try installed a week ago
[15:40] <mneptok> hadidonk: the you want #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:40] <mneptok> !offtopic | hadidonk
[15:40] <hadidonk> o.. thankz
[15:41] <pavan_> hello guys
[15:41] <mengu> is it possible to reverse an update?
[15:41] <pavan_> is 1000+ processor wake ups per second normal under ideal conditions
[15:41] <auronandace> mengu: not really no
[15:41] <auronandace> !downgrade | mengu
[15:41] <pavan_> my battery is drying up quickly
[15:43] <mengu> auronandace:  i am not talking about downgrading to an older ubuntu version
[15:43] <mneptok> pavan_: sounds odd. disable various power management pieces (working down from the desktop to the kernel) and see if any of them are responsible?
[15:43] <mengu> ubuntu software center popped up and told me there were updates so i went through it.
[15:43] <mengu> after the update it fucked up my ssl vpn client
[15:43] <mengu> this one: http://internal.enterprisecomponent.com/download/FortiClientSSLVPN/forticlientsslvpn_linux_4.0.2010.tar.gz
[15:43] <auronandace> mengu: i think the same principle applies to software packages
[15:43] <fmauro> pavan_: I'm at about 250 wakes/s
[15:43] <mneptok> mengu: "messed up" in this channel, if you please.
[15:44] <pavan_> mneptok : I have installed jupiter for power management, do u think it is creating problems
[15:44] <mengu> mneptok: sure.
[15:44] <mneptok> pavan_: could well be. disable it and watch wha'ppens.
[15:44] <fmauro> pavan_: I'm using powertoÃp to onitor wakes
[15:44] <mengu> would anyone using 11.10 try downloading that client and see if the desktop client runs for them?
[15:45] <pavan_> fmauro : will try that
[15:45] <mengu> by the way, my setup is 64 bit and this application is 32 bit. though it was working previously.
[15:45] <mneptok> mengu: how hard you swear and punch stuff in meatspace around you doesn't concern anyone. but no salty language on public support channels is of concern. thanks for playin' nice. :)
[15:46] <pavan_> mneptok : I have disabled it, no significant changes, its now around 900
[15:46] <mlechner> hi, i tried to sync a folder foo in my home folder ~/foo to sync to ubuntu one. but only the folder itself seems to be synced not the folders and files within it?
[15:46] <Dantix> mornig Sirs, recently I've upgrade my box to 11.10 and lost the DNS resolution, tried adding my dns server to resolv.conf with no luck, which file I need to update to get back DNS resolution?
[15:46] <mneptok> mengu: you must have pulled ia32 libs to get that app running. were those updated? any problem with those will kill that app really quickly.
[15:46] <omni_> Can anyone tell me how to log out of a GUI back into command line?
[15:46] <pavan_> mneptok : I have optimus supported graphics card, do u think it might be the problem with it
[15:46] <fmauro> Dantix: I think network-manager alters resolv.conf at will
[15:47] <pavan_> omni_ : ctrl + alt + F1
[15:47] <fmauro> Dantix: so your changes might have been ignored
[15:47] <Dantix> omni_: ctrl-alt-f1
[15:47] <llutz_> Dantix: using networkmanager? edit connection, set your DNS
[15:47] <mneptok> pavan_: did you install any drivers for the video outside of what is in the mainline kernel?
[15:48] <pavan_> mneptok : Installed ironhide from repo, it in turn installed nvidia drivers
[15:48] <mlechner> Dantix omni_: ctrl-alt-f1 is not a logout u can jump back from console using alt-f7
[15:48] <Dantix> llutz_: how can I run networkmanager as root from gui?
[15:48] <llutz_> Dantix: no need, rightclick on the applet
[15:48] <Dantix> llutz_: trying....
[15:49] <mneptok> pavan_: try booting to a previous kernel. try booting in recovery mode. see if either of those results in fewer CPU wakes. if so, it's the current kernel, or a module loading against it.
[15:49] <auronandace> Dantix: you can do it, we believe in you
[15:49] <mneptok> pavan_: or, is most likely such a thing. it could also be some userspace app you're running.
[15:49] <Dantix> auronandace: :)
[15:50] <pavan_> mneptok : hmm, I'll reboot and check, thanks for your help
[15:50] <pavan_> fmauro : thanks for the help
[15:50] <mengu> mneptok: i really have no idea and do not know if they were updated as well
[15:50] <vivanov> mneptok: sony vaio  vgn-tt31mr - it has bios but ubuntu did install efi partition
[15:50] <omni_> Here, different question. How can you stay in Command line when re-booting and not get pushed into the GUI
[15:50] <Calahan> Have gnome-desktop and vnc4server. After I connnect trought vnc there is no taskbar menu. Any ideas?
[15:50] <dr_willis> !text | omni_
[15:51] <mneptok> vivanov: PM?
[15:51] <Dantix> forgott to mention, I'm on NX session, seems that make the things differents. I can't see any network within networkmanager
[15:51] <omni_> dr_willis, Thank you! i think that will help out better than trying to log out of the GUI.
[15:51] <Bear10> Anyone know why I can't ping userA.local but i can ping 192.168.1.131? i can ping userB.local just fine
[15:52] <vivanov> mneptok: what is PM
[15:52] <dr_willis> omni_:  'sudo service lightdm stop'  will close X and the DM  login' :)
[15:52] <auronandace> !pm vivanov
[15:52] <mneptok> vivanov: private message.
[15:52] <auronandace> !pm | vivanov
[15:52] <mneptok> vivanov: i ask before i /query people, because i expect the same :)
[15:53]  * mneptok waits
[15:54] <omni_> nvm that works better! (changed lightdm to lxdm but it still works!)
[15:54] <vivanov> still getting operating system not found anyway -- always was ok after installation -- now some strange efi partition and nothing boots
[15:54] <omni_> dr_willis, ty again!
[15:54] <mneptok> vivanov: may i /msg you? i know how to fix this.
[15:54] <john_rambo> when I try to mount a nfs share i get "failed: RPC Error: Program not registered"
[15:54] <vivanov> mneptok: yes u can msg me -- thx a lot
[15:55] <e20100633> john_rambo: you need to install portmap
[15:56] <john_rambo> e20100633, Installling portmap now
[15:56] <Calahan> Have ubuntu 11.10 server edition. After installing gnome-desktop and vnc4server. When I connect trought vnc to gnome GUI there is no taksbar menu any ideas how to fix this?
[15:56] <magnetron> hi, how do i disable desktop effects in Natty?
[15:58] <mlechner> hi, i tried to sync a folder foo in my home folder ~/foo to sync to ubuntu one. but only the folder itself seems to be synced not the folders and files within it?
[15:59] <yoga> What is the keyboard short cut for goto the desktop?
[15:59] <john_rambo> e20100633, portmap is already installled
[16:00] <mlechner> yoga which desktop manager?
[16:00] <llutz_> john_rambo: nfs-common?
[16:00] <e20100633> john_rambo: what command are you using to mount your remote nfs ?
[16:00] <yoga> mlechner: ubuntu-desktop
[16:00] <john_rambo> llutz, on the client side ? Yes
[16:00] <yoga> mlechner: desktop 2D
[16:00] <Bear10> Anyone know why I can't ping userA.local but i can ping 192.168.1.131? i can ping userB.local just fine, guessing its a dns issue but not sure how to fix it
[16:01] <mlechner> yoga: unity Super-D (super = windows-key)
[16:02] <yoga> mlechner: not working.
[16:02] <mlechner> yoga: works for me ubuntu 11.10 unity 3D
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Bear10: does userA.local resolve to an IP?
[16:03] <john_rambo> e20100633, http://pastebin.com/ztqJwHF2       tux is the username of both the PCs
[16:03] <Bear10> ActionParsnip, umm im new to ubuntu so i dont know how to check via cli, i know that userB does since it goes through and userA can be pinged by other computers
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Bear10: nslookup userA.local    same as in Windows
[16:04] <e20100633> john_rambo: ok, check that: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/NFS-HOWTO/troubleshooting.html (the  b. RPC: Program Not Registered: (or another "RPC" error) part)
[16:04] <Bear10> ActionParsnip, says Server: 192.168.1.1, Address: 192.168.1.1#54, and then server can't find userA.local: NXDOMAIN
[16:04] <Bear10> so i guess not
[16:04] <Bear10> err #53
[16:04] <e20100633> john_rambo: try to run /usr/sbin/rpc.mountd on the server, maybe the daemon isn't running
[16:05] <mlechner> hi, i tried to sync a folder foo in my home folder ~/foo to sync to ubuntu one. but only the folder itself seems to be synced not the folders and files within it?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Bear10: then dns is the issue, if userB is ok but userA isn't then its DNS
[16:05] <e20100633> john_rambo: plus, add -t nfs to your command to specify nfs to mount command
[16:06] <llutz_> Bear10: 192.168.1.1 is your dhcp-server too? does userA/userB both get IP from it?
[16:06] <Bear10> ActionParsnip, hmm well i notice that userB disappears and cant be localized anymore as soon as i activate my Firewall, but if i disable it on userA i still can't pick that one up
[16:06] <e20100633> john_rambo: like sudo mount -t nfs 192.168.1.3:/home/tux/nfs /home/tux/nfs
[16:06] <Bear10> llutz_, correct
[16:06] <yoga>  mlechner: I found it Ctrl+Alt+D
[16:06] <MrEgg964> Hi -- I want to forward all incoming https requests from server 1 to server 2. Can anyone help?
[16:07] <mlechner> yoga: doesn't work for me ;-)
[16:08] <smango> Is there any way to use unity 3d with metacity? compiz gives me issues with windows borders
[16:08] <llutz_> Bear10: you have to check settings on 192.168.1.1 then, running something like dnsmasq or similar i guess
[16:08] <Bear10> hmph
[16:08] <magnetron> Hi! How do i disable desktop effects in Natty?
[16:09] <john_rambo> e20100633, tried starting the rpc.mountd , tried the - t nfs  but same thing .....Do I neeedto open ports on the server side ?
[16:09] <e20100633> john_rambo: well, yes, if you have a firewall enabled? are you using iptables?
[16:10] <panfist> i'm trying to use the startup disk creator, i've reformatted a 4gb usb drive and i'm trying to put 11.10 64 desktop on it, with 3gb reserved for storage
[16:11] <panfist> i'm on my third try, because the rate of transfer keeps slowing down to the point that it says it's going to take 300 mins, 400 mins, even longer to finish
[16:11] <philipballew> If I give my laptop a static IP will is be unable to connect to some wifi networks?
[16:11] <john_rambo> e20100633, gufw enabled & I have allowed nfs as service
[16:11] <e20100633> hum...
[16:11] <keda87> hello
[16:11] <panfist> the usb drive seems otherwise fine, but i was wondering if there is anything i could do to try to troubleshoot this problem
[16:12] <keda87> what is the newest version of maverick kernel?
[16:12] <Younder> where is the postgreSQL database located?
[16:12] <llutz_> keda87: 2.6.35-30
[16:12] <hexacode> how do i delete crontabs by line instead of crontab -r ?
[16:13] <hexacode> i wanna save some crons and just remove some
[16:13] <briman0094> i'm having troubles running a file
[16:13] <briman0094> i messed up my partition tables on my laptop, so i'm trying to run TestDisk from the Ubuntu 10.10 LTS livecd
[16:13] <Phoenix87> re
[16:13] <briman0094> it says "There is no application installed for executable files."
[16:13] <e20100633> john_rambo: what is the content of /etc/host.allow on the server side?
[16:13] <dr_willis> briman0094:  how are you trying to run it?
[16:13] <auronandace> briman0094: 10.04 is lts, not 10.10
[16:14] <keda87> llutz: some day ago i'm upgraded into 2.6.36-020636-generic
[16:14] <briman0094> its 10.10...thats beside the pint
[16:14] <briman0094> point*
[16:14] <keda87> but can u help to delete old kernel
[16:14] <dr_willis> briman0094:  you are running it from the command line?
[16:14] <briman0094> i used chmod +x [filename] and then double clicked it
[16:14] <dr_willis> !info testdisk
[16:14] <briman0094> if i try running it from the command line it says "unknown command"
[16:14] <keda87> ./[filename] via terminal
[16:14] <OerHeks> hexacode, the -r option > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CronHowto#Crontab_Options
[16:15] <briman0094> is that package on the repo?
[16:15] <briman0094> like the ubuntu software center repo
[16:15] <dr_willis> briman0094:  what did you even instal that you need to chmod +x it?   you install it using the package manager.. and just run 'testdisk'
[16:15] <SultansElephant> Hi. I have an installation of Linux Mint based on 11.04. If I use the 11.10 Ubuntu disc image partitioner to wipe out the existing partition (created by the Mint installer) or install over it or something, will the Ubuntu installer/GRUB recover my windows partition just the same? Sounds all right, since Windows is installed first, right?
[16:15] <e20100633> john_rambo: give me too the content of /etc/exports on the server side
[16:15] <dr_willis> briman0094:  correct
[16:15] <briman0094> i downloaded it
[16:15] <briman0094> so its not +x
[16:15] <briman0094> ok i'll go install it from there
[16:15] <briman0094> brb
[16:15] <dr_willis> briman0094:  what exactly did you download? id just use the repos version....
[16:15] <Dantix> I'm still with no dns resolution. apt removed network-manager, added dns to resolv.conf... any other ideas. Actually I'm at server console.
[16:15] <briman0094> i didn't know it was on the repo
[16:15] <briman0094> i used http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Download
[16:16] <keda87> anyone can u help me to delete old kernel?
[16:16] <auronandace> !packages | briman0094
[16:16] <john_rambo> e20100633, there are no entries there
[16:16] <briman0094> i can't find it on the software center
[16:16] <briman0094> i'll look in synaptic
[16:16] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get install testdisk
[16:17] <e20100633> john_rambo: the file is empty? do you have something in /etc/host.deny then?
[16:17] <dr_willis>  no need to look. :) the bot said the name of the package..
[16:17] <jan_green> i am running 11.10 with gnome 3.2 and had some small dual monitor issues, so i tried to install the proprietary driver for my graphics card (ati radeon hd 5770) but this failed (without reason, it just failed). after reboot graphics totally crashed down. getting artifacts, typo not correctly displayed... but a look into propr. drivers screen showed nothing selected. i switched back to unity which not even showed me a bar. only mou
[16:17] <briman0094> don't think its avaliable on the 10.10 livecd
[16:17] <dr_willis> !10.10
[16:17] <dr_willis> !info testdisk maverick
[16:17] <dr_willis> Its in the maverick universe repo.
[16:18] <lesshaste> I have a DVD with some episodes of a TV programme on it. What's the easiest way to rip some of them to xvid or something similar
[16:18] <joar> i'm having trouble installing the ATI/AMD proprietary drivers (post-release update)
[16:18] <dryicebomb> !list
[16:19] <joar> the "ATI/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics drivers" work fine, but the post-release does not.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> lesshaste: k9copy perhaps
[16:19] <lesshaste> dryicebomb: it wasn't a file sharing question!
[16:19] <helo> i added "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian oneiric contrib" to my sources, but there's no virtualbox-4.1 package available, even though the package is apparently present
[16:19] <auronandace> joar: then use the ones that work fine
[16:19] <dr_willis> lesshaste:  k9copy, dvdrip other tools in the repos..
[16:19] <lesshaste> ActionParsnip: oh ok.. I thought they just ripped whole dvds.. let me check again
[16:20] <dr_willis> lesshaste:  i tend to use k9copy
[16:20] <lesshaste> dr_willis: thanks.. I am checking it out
[16:20] <joar> auronandace: I need the post-release updates for gnome shell to work properly.
[16:20] <hadidonk> keda87: that is my Q too
[16:20] <john_rambo> e20100633, same thing with hosts.deny there are no entries there only descriptions with # in the begining
[16:20] <e20100633> john_rambo: well...
[16:20] <joar> lesshaste: try http://transcoder.com
[16:20] <dr_willis> lesshaste:  often i use k9copy to backup to an iso file.. then i rencode/rip from that iso file.. faster that way  for me.
[16:20] <auronandace> joar: i'm glad i use nvidia and xfce then
[16:20] <joar> lesshaste: Sorry http://transcoder.org
[16:20] <hadidonk> so the last kernel maverick is 2.6.35-30?
[16:21] <lesshaste> dr_willis: can you just rip individual episodes?
[16:21] <dr_willis> lesshaste:  theres arista also . but not tried it much.
[16:21] <dr_willis> lesshaste:  prob can.  i rarely bother with just 1.
[16:21] <dr_willis> my mediaplayer can play iso files. :)
[16:21] <joar> auronandace: Great!
[16:21] <lesshaste> dr_willis: it's more that I want to separate them
[16:21] <lesshaste> dr_willis: the whole thing is too big to put on my phone :)
[16:21] <dr_willis> try the tools and see..
[16:21] <Gorkyman> does ubuntu supports ssd ?
[16:21] <dr_willis> winff and arista have  converter profiles for most phones.
[16:22] <joar> lesshaste: http://transcoder.org can do that, and it's open source, written in Python.
[16:22] <dddbmt> I need to install ubuntu on my work pc. I'm looking for a stable version, and not to use unity. Should I go for 11.10 or 10.04?
[16:22] <dr_willis> lesshaste:  one issue is that the default ffmpeg and mencoder I think do not have all the differnt file type support compiled in.
[16:22] <auronandace> Gorkyman: yes
[16:22] <style> Hi, does anyone know some software which could stream (flash) stream your videos (from fs)? (http/web server)
[16:22] <e20100633> john_rambo: I'm sorry, I have no idea; but look, try to open a thread on the forum with all your informations (rpcinfo, files' contents, etc), maybe you'll find someone with more skills than me...
[16:22] <Gorkyman> auronandace: and all functionalities?
[16:22] <lesshaste> dr_willis: ah.. ok that sounds serious
[16:22] <dr_willis> transcoder.org = arista  :) in the repos.
[16:23] <joar> style: Wowza media server, it's free for developers.
[16:23] <auronandace> Gorkyman: not sure of the specifics
[16:23] <dr_willis> im not sure if arista uses ffmpeg, mencoder, or somthing else.
[16:23] <john_rambo> e20100633, Okay/Thanks
[16:23] <joar> dr_willis: it uses GStreamer.
[16:24] <dr_willis> so its 'somthing else' :)
[16:24] <joar> dr_willis: something far better imo :)
[16:24] <luis_> dddbmt: I use 11.04 and it works great
[16:24] <dr_willis> I was comparing winff and arista.  to android video.
[16:24] <dddbmt> luis_, okay. I'll try that then, thanks! :)
[16:25] <pikaciu> dddbmt: and you can disable unity
[16:25] <fourthnation> Im having a bit of a problem installing Java, im trying with "sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre" but it looks after it in E: and not on the internet, its very strange.
[16:25] <dddbmt> pikaciu, that would be great! I'll get back when I get to that ;)
[16:25] <joar> fourthnation: It's probably E: as in error.
[16:26] <joar> fourthnation: What's the error message?
[16:26] <fourthnation> unable to locate package E: Unable to locate package openjdk-6-jre
[16:26] <infinii> how do I tell which partition my grub is installed on?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> !find openjdk
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> !info openjdk-6-jre | joar
[16:27] <joar> !info openjdk-6-jre | fourthnation
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> joar: seems to be in the main repo. try:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[16:27] <fourthnation> yes, it cant find it :<
[16:27] <joar> ActionParsnip: please direct your replies to fourthnation
[16:27] <fourthnation> network connection is good. i can ping stuff. :/
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> fourthnation: can you get normal updates?
[16:28] <joar> ActionParsnip: my jdk setup is fine :)
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> joar: ty dude
[16:28] <fourthnation> ActionParsnip; now something is happening
[16:28] <jan_green> i am running 11.10 with gnome 3.2 and had some small dual monitor issues, so i tried to install the proprietary driver for my graphics card (ati radeon hd 5770) but this failed (without reason, it just failed). after reboot graphics totally crashed down. getting artifacts, typo not correctly displayed... but a look into propr. drivers screen showed nothing selected. i switched back to unity which not even showed me a bar. only mou
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> fourthnation: sweet
[16:29] <Insayne> Hello, i tried installing Ubuntu using Wubi (from the ubuntu website), I installed it on a regular Sata HDD, now the windows bootmanager has been changed, however, i end up in grub, telling me to hit "tab" for more options, thus I don't even get into ubuntu
[16:29] <Insayne> could someone help me with that?
[16:29] <fourthnation> ActionParsnip: thanks mate
[16:31] <dr_willis> Hmm. Arista just convedrted a video for me.. i go to play it.. says 'no playable streams' :) lets try again.
[16:32] <Insayne> dr_willis, you might have the encoder, but not the decoder
[16:33] <Insayne> so you can encode into the said format, but not play it
[16:33] <luis_> Insayne: When the install was running did you choose the default settings?
[16:34] <Insayne> luis_, no I installed it on another Harddisk, the rest was as-is (except password)
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> fourthnation: no worries, glad to help
[16:35] <shadowhywind1> has anyone used disper before?
[16:35] <Insayne> It is a 3TB Drive which is formatted to NTFS
[16:36] <auronandace> shadowhywind1: i haven't used disper before
[16:36] <shadowhywind1> dang, it looks like what i'm looking for to switch between displays, but i can't figure out how to tell ot which display to use
[16:37] <zenloop> all: does anyone know if linux can achieve 100% memory usage?
[16:37] <zenloop> or does the swapper have a fail safe into swap
[16:37] <usertwo> i just upgraded to 11.10 64bit and now my wireless isnt working. is this a bug on64bit because it works fine on my 32bit netbook
[16:37] <luis_> Insayne: That is strange
[16:37] <Insayne> luis_, indeed :(
[16:38] <Insayne> i just sit at a grub prompt when i want to run it
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> zenloop: it will use RAM as disk cache and release it as apps need it
[16:38] <infinii> how do I tell if my kernel has support for EFI built in?
[16:38] <auronandace> usertwo: wireless works fine here for me
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: what wireless chip? What netbook?
[16:38] <krasnozer> could some one tell me what is gvfsd-htt and why does it mantain an open connection to some canonical server at all time ?
[16:38] <Insayne> luis_, so you dont know either what I should do ?
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: details please
[16:39] <luis_> Insayne: If you disconnect the the drive from your system can you boot up the old OS?
[16:39] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: Asus 1005ha...but the 64bit was working perfectly on 11.04
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: ok, if you run:  sudo iwlist scan    do you see wireless networks?
[16:40] <Insayne> luis, the old os being windows?
[16:40] <luis_> Insayne: Yes
[16:40] <Insayne> yeah, the boot partition is on the windows drive
[16:40] <Insayne> i am going to retry it and use C:\ as storage point
[16:40] <Bear10> llutz_, im starting to think my issue isnt dns but rather a network discovery thing of some sort, because when i disable my firewall linux finds me
[16:41] <Insayne> I lack the space on C, so its not very much what I hoped for :(
[16:41] <Bear10> something in my windows firewall is blocking me and im not sure how to fix it
[16:41] <fourthnation> strange, the "get"-command doesnt work for me, have always done that by default when i've installed ubuntu, now it says File "<string>", line 1 in <module> importError: no module named asrun
[16:41] <dr_willis> i alwyas seem to just diable the windows firewall...
[16:42] <usertwo> does upgrading change the UP address og the laptop?
[16:42] <usertwo> ip address
[16:42] <luis_> Insayne: Don't use Wubi  I you use a Ubuntu CD to install it will see the new hard drive and you can choose that for a install.
[16:42] <Insayne> i dont have any bootable media around
[16:42] <Insayne> thus wubi being my choice
[16:43] <pikaciu> Insayne: why don't download iso ?
[16:43] <Insayne> no empty DVD
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: the IP is given via DHCP from your router
[16:43] <luis_> Insayne: You can download The 11.04 iso
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: so it's whatever your router assigns
[16:43] <Insayne> Yes, and then? It has an installer for windows ?
[16:44] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: sorry, i meant to write MAC address!
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: did you see wireless networks with the command I gave?
[16:44] <SpiderFred> is there a way to add some program to linux withou having to install it? only by moving files and manualy writing to files?
[16:44] <barab> server irc.rizon.net
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: the MAC address is put into the device when it is made
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: it will be the same in any OS at any version
[16:44] <pikaciu> Insayne: the installer will ask you what you want to do with your win partition
[16:45] <usertwo> brb
[16:45] <luis_> Insayne: During the install it will see both your HDD's choose your new drive for the install. Then you will have dual boot options
[16:45] <Insayne> okay
[16:45] <joar> I'll just switch to KDE!
[16:45] <Insayne> i am gonna try it
[16:45] <Guest39081> hi
[16:45] <jimmy8888> is it possible to transfer (correctly encoded) video file to an ipod in ubuntu? if so how do i do it?
[16:46] <pikaciu> Insayne: at start grub will let you the choice
[16:46] <zenloop> Action: yah, but is there ever a point where it hits 100%
[16:46] <diverdude> Hello, which android does samsung galaxy s 2 use? and is the galaxy s2 the best android phone there is atm?
[16:46] <dr_willis> !ipod
[16:47] <zenloop> Action: I should clarify, I am setting up memory monitoring but it seems useless because memory always hovers around 98%.  My swap monitor is much more telling.
[16:47] <joar> diverdude: OT?
[16:47] <dr_willis> diverdude:  ask in #android
[16:47] <jimmy8888> dr_willis: no problems transferring music to ipod with banshee. just wondering what the process is for video files...
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> zenloop: sure, if you run more apps than your RAM and swap space can handle
[16:48] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: i tried the command you issued...it reads the wireless
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: so it finds your access point?
[16:48] <kltrg> After upgrading to oneiric, my network manager applet disappeared. What can I do about it and is there a way to reset all network configuration. It seems that something went wrong during the upgrade process. I didn't replace the corresponding config file.
[16:48] <shp> hi
[16:48] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: to be more accurate i should say the connection keeps dropping
[16:48] <shp> when i plug in my pc in hdmi with my tv, i don't see the whole screen on the TV .... help me pls
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: ahhhh why didnt you say that in the first instance?
[16:49] <dr_willis> jimmy8888:  no idea. I wont buy anything from apple.
[16:49] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: my apologies...!
[16:49] <Newbeeans_> jimmy8888: I hate the iPad
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: when the link drops. run:  dmesg | tail     and it may give clues
[16:49] <luis_> shp: did you try changing the resolution on you PC ?
[16:49] <wriggle> Hello i have on a quick question, why does it say on the homepage 32bit is recommend? are there any bugs for 64bit?
[16:49] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: i have edited the connection to try other security protocols but that doesnt seem to help
[16:50] <Insayne> wriggle, driver support?
[16:50] <usertwo> wep 128 encryption
[16:50] <shp> luis_, => in "display" they propose me only the highest resolution
[16:50] <dr_willis> wriggle:  idiot proofing, if someone has NO idea what the differance is.. then they get reccomened 32bit whch shuld always work
[16:50] <llutz_> wriggle: it'll work on all machines, 64 bit only on 64bit-capables
[16:50] <dr_willis> wriggle:  now a days. if you have 64bit hardware.. use 64bit i say..
[16:50] <jimmy8888> dr_willis and newbeeans_: yes i share your dislike for apple, fortunately this is the only apple device i own. i dont see myself throwing it away on moral grounds however
[16:50] <wriggle> alright, thanks
[16:50] <luis_> shp: Try changing to a lower resoultion
[16:50] <wontoner_> Does anyone know how I can get spanish characters to display properly in telnet?
[16:51] <wontoner_> I'm telnetting to a spanish server and the accented characters keep showing up as question marks
[16:51] <wontoner_> running ubuntu netbook
[16:51] <dr_willis> wontoner_:  what teminal/telnet client are you using?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: disabling ipv6 as well can help. You can set the boot option: ipv6.disable=1 in /etc/default/grub inside the quotes with:  quiet splash   then run:  sudo update-grub
[16:51] <shp> luis_, how?
[16:51] <wontoner_> dr_willis: the basic telnet command in the shell
[16:51] <joar> wontoner_: Are you really using telnet, or SSH?
 luis_, => in "display" they propose me only the highest resolution
[16:51] <wontoner_> joar: telnet
[16:52] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: ipv6 is already off
[16:52] <joar> wontoner_: It depends on character encodings, but it's hard to tell where the problem is.
[16:53] <luis_> shp: What OS and graphics card are you using?
[16:53] <dr_willis> i wonder if 'putty' in the repos might be a little smarter about it...
[16:53] <joar> wontoner_: Are characters you are typing into the shell becoming question marks directly as you type, or in the response from the remote server?
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: good, the dmesg output should say what's what. I suggest you use a wired connection and get fully updated. May help
[16:53] <dr_willis> a server running telnet.. is a little scary  in this day and age.
[16:53] <joar> wontoner_: ISO-8859-1 special characters often become question marks when interpreted as UTF-8
[16:55] <wontoner_> joar: the text I'm receiving from the remote server has the question marks
[16:56] <joar> wontoner_: You are probably using UTF-8 and the remote server is probably using something like ISO-8859-1
[16:56] <dr_willis> server is sending iso-8859-1 and the ubuntu terminal is expecting utf-8 perhaps.. :)
[16:56] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: i will try that..dmesg is saying the MAC address is not recognised, and my router only connects to certain mac addresses
[16:57] <dr_willis> I know putty for windows has settings to change the encoding. wonder if putty on linux does also..
[16:57] <wontoner_> joar: Do I have to send a sepcial command to telnet when i start it?
[16:57] <joar> wontoner_: I'm checking
[16:57] <p1ruj3> 11.10 nautilus transfer rate of 670kB usb 2.0 to usb 2.0 drive... any idea what the heck is slowing this down?
[16:57] <usertwo> ActionParsnip: there is an option in network manager to input the mac address so i will try that
[16:57] <joar> wontoner_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1051546
[16:57] <p1ruj3> I think usb 1 is like 10-12 mbit...
[16:58] <hrolf> Anyone else having problems with logging into reddit in Ubuntu?
[16:58] <dr_willis> p1ruj3:  noticeing im getting 4.75 MB/S here right now.. according to 'mc'
[16:58] <hrolf> or specifically with Firefox?
[16:58] <obiwlan> hi there! i can not use keyboard shortcuts (anything with ctrl) in my kvm guest anymore since oneiric. Does someone have an idea how to solve that?
[16:59] <joar> hrolf: No, what problems are you experiencing?
[16:59] <qmr> My flash is all FUBAR... stutters in playback, then stops playing back... then plays without audiot.. then will not play unless I move the slider on progress bar.. then plays for a few moments...
[16:59] <qmr> how do I 'reset' everything, as it were?
[17:00] <joar> qmr: What flash?
[17:00] <hrolf> joar: It keeps loading (I can see the loading circle, it doesn't stops). Same issue with cic.gc.ca (when I access a https link)
[17:00] <qmr> joar: hm?
[17:00] <hrolf> joar: similarly when I open facebook I'm directed to the security page which is also a https, and keeps loading forever
[17:00] <joar> hrolf: Can you access any https page?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: could disable the mac filter to test
[17:01] <hrolf> but when I do facebook.com (after logged in) it is no longer https and I can use it
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> usertwo: ifconfig   will tell you the current mac address
[17:01] <hrolf> joar: Yes, Gmail works fine though.
[17:01] <qmr> hmm... ok, I am playing a flash video now and seems to almost work in firefox..  playback is stuttering but it might be remote server
[17:01] <wontoner_> got it, I had to change the settings in my terminal window
[17:01] <wontoner_> that you guys very much
[17:01] <qmr> so problem might be localized to chromium
[17:01] <wontoner_> my character encoding was indeed set to UTF in my terminal window, and i had to change it to western
[17:01] <joar> qmr: What flash application has those problems? Is it the YouTube player, any other player, or any flash embed?
[17:02] <qmr> joar: any video it seems
[17:02] <p1ruj3> dr_willis that's still slow.... heh for me its saying 221 hours to copy 400 gigs.... should be like 6
[17:02] <joar> hrolf: Sounds like a problem with your browser's HTTPS
[17:02] <pikaciu> qmr: with chrome ?
[17:02] <qmr> chromium
[17:02] <hrolf> joar: I'm using Firefox (the version which comes with Ubuntu 11.10)
[17:02] <hrolf> joar: How do I go about troubleshooting it?
[17:03] <pikaciu> qmr: i had the same problem.
[17:03] <joar> hrolf: Googling for something "Firefox HTTPS ubuntu problem" might help.
[17:03] <ghostnik11> hi i wanted to know, if its possible using pidgin as a client to send files to google talk users, like for example say i added my google talk info to pidgin would i be able to send files to other gtalk users
[17:03] <dr_willis> p1ruj3:  i got other stuf accessing mine. :) its my system disk  on a 32gb flash drive.. there have been many bug reports about very slow usb drive access speeds.
[17:03] <qmr> pikaciu: did you find a way to resolve it?  this problem only started some hours ago.. til then things were fine
[17:03] <pikaciu> qmr: no i use mozilla
[17:04] <obiwlan> it look like compiz is eating my ctrl-key presses and doesn't put them through to my kvm guest anymore :(
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> joar: what videos are having issues?
[17:04] <pocoyo> ghostnik11: it likely cannot do that.
[17:04] <qmr> pikaciu: are you saying you had the problem in ... yea ok.  flash just messed up again.  video is playing, but there is NO SOUND.
[17:04] <michael_mbp> hi all.  When a mail server sends out mail and the receiving server does a reverse lookup, what ports on the sending server must be open?
[17:04] <qmr> HOW.DO.I.FIX.THIS. :(
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> joar: I only use Chromium :)
[17:04] <joar> ActionParsnip: please talk to qmr about that.
[17:04] <hexacode> whats wrong with this cron entry?   0-59 * * * * '/bin/bash $HOME/terminal.sh'
[17:04] <michael_mbp> I'm getting Connection refused errors with sendmail
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> qmr: wassup dude?
[17:04] <pikaciu> qmr: but with firefox it works ?
[17:05] <qmr> pikaciu: no, same problems with firefox
[17:05] <joar> hexacode: what do you want it to do?
[17:05] <pikaciu> qmr: oh... i thouth it was a chrome problem
[17:05] <michael_mbp> anyone?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> qmr: can you give a PASTEBIN of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | egreg 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'
[17:05] <hexacode> joar just run that bash script
[17:05] <hexacode> not running though
[17:05] <joar> hexacode: how often?
[17:05] <hexacode> every minute
[17:06] <hexacode> joar
[17:06] <joar> hexacode: then it should be * * * * * /bin/bash [...]
[17:06] <pikaciu> qmr: maybe it's about codecs
[17:06] <hexacode> is the most rightside part correct?
[17:06] <dr_willis> hexacode:  im not sure that $HOME is valid in a cron job..
[17:06] <madmike117> u mean egrep
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> hexacode: do you have a desktop UI?
[17:06] <qmr> pikaciu: no, it worked fine until recently
[17:06] <joar> hexacode: the 0-59 part is incorrect and should be replaced by a star.
[17:06] <hexacode> ActionParsnip:  yes
[17:06] <joar> or asterisk
[17:06] <ghostnik11> pocoyo: uh man, b/c i tried yesterday to send a file to someone on gtalk client in windows while i was on empathy signed in with my gtalk information and the file transfer window would come up but then get stuck at 90 kb so figured pidgin would be better to accomplish such tasks when i needed to do such things
[17:06] <hrolf> joar: Nope. Couldn't get any good results. Though after like 5 minutes I'm logged in.
[17:06] <ActionParsnip> hexacode: use gnome-schedule
[17:07] <hrolf> joar: I shall check the other websites too.
[17:07] <hexacode> thanks oth of you
[17:07] <joar> hrolf: It seems that your HTTPS is working fine but is _really_ slow then.
[17:07] <pocoyo> ghostnik11: oh. i haven't try .
[17:08] <qmr> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/719000/
[17:08] <hrolf> joar: Seems like. I should try another browser.
[17:08] <joar> hrolf: Why it would be really slow I'm having a hard time finding out though, but check the rest of the sites.
[17:08] <hrolf> joar: Is there Opera for Ubuntu?
[17:08] <joar> hrolf: That might be a good idea.
[17:08] <qmr> I assume you meant egrep, not egreg :P
[17:08] <joar> hrolf: Yes, absolutely.
[17:08] <pikaciu> qmr: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2011/03/install-adobe-flash-player-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[17:08] <joar> hrolf: There's also Chromium
[17:08] <ghostnik11> pocoyo: is there any client in ubuntu/linux that is similar to empathy (which i like a lot b/c it goes with gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04) and allows file transfer with gtalk users
[17:09] <qmr> pikaciu:  ....
[17:09] <joar> ghostnik11: No, GTalk doesn't allow file transfers.
[17:09] <hrolf> joar: Ubuntu Software Center cannot find any Opera, strange.
[17:09] <madmike117> w
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> qmr: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer; sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:09] <pocoyo> ghostnik11: sorry,i really don't know.
[17:09] <joar> hrolf: It's not there by default since it's not free software.
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> qmr: worked here in natty, or enable the partner repository and install adobe-installer
[17:10] <pikaciu> qmr: :P
[17:10] <joar> hrolf: http://www.opera.com/browser/download/
[17:11] <Atharva> Hi..I can access a file in a network using "nautilus smb://<ip address>/ . Now I have connected 2 computers using Wifi..How to access each other ??
[17:12] <hrolf> joar: Ah, I see. Thanks.
[17:12] <qmr> dang, when did the flash installer get so big?  14,000K or so
[17:12] <meowsus> I have a strange problem I might not be able to describe very well: I'm running Oneiric with Unity, and when, say, a gnome terminal window is maximized and a command produces a lot of information on the screen, the text sometimes becomes garbled, on the left side - at almost exactly at the width of the Unity bar. I have to scroll up and down to make the terminal show the information properly. I'll take a screenshot.
[17:12] <meowsus> ... if i can reproduce it
[17:12] <jiltdil> qmr?????
[17:12] <bassliner> meowsus: screenshot would pretty much help. :)
[17:13] <qmr> Atharva: "access" in what sense?
[17:13] <bassliner> when moving a window in ubuntu 11.10 with unity, it is easily possible to "lose" the window under the mouse pointer by moving the window around a bit, especially to the upper screen border. the cursor then is like 100px "over" the window or so, making moving windows feel terrible. any idea what component is causing this?
[17:13] <Atharva> qmr : Access shared files .
[17:13] <qmr> Atharva: well you have to make shares, and then connect to them
[17:13] <ghostnik11> joar: oh, yeah i just read it on pidgins faq saying google talk client doesn't use standard xmpp for file transfers, this is perfect example why everything should be more open source b/c its not ubuntu or linux community fault for this problem its google causing problem
[17:13] <Atharva> qmr : How to do that ?
[17:13] <meowsus> bassliner, dang, easier said than done, it happens pretty randomly it seems
[17:13] <Eclipze> hey guys, question, I was in the middle of upgrading to Ubuntu 11.1 when my laptop overheated and shut off, because it was installing files my ubuntu is nonoperational and can't be accessed. What is the best way to repair?
[17:14] <jiltdil> Atharva,  Are both comp in wifi?
[17:14] <qmr> Atharva: google for a samba guide and get started reading.  I think in the GNOME shell nautilus you can right click -> share or such
[17:14] <qmr> Atharva: what is your real purpose?
[17:14] <xenoxaos> Eclipze, first step, clean your heatsink...second step, choose upgrade from the installer
[17:14] <bassliner> meowsus: i'm not able to screenshot my issue, too, because pointer will not be grabbed in such situations. even scrot doesn't have an option to include the pointer. :(
[17:14] <jiltdil> Atharva,  And in home network or public network?
[17:15] <Eclipze> xenoxaos, thanks
[17:15] <Atharva> qmr : I can access those files using a LAN cable...Now I want to access using wifi...
[17:15] <Atharva> jiltdil : Hame
[17:15] <meowsus> bassliner, check out shutter, i think theres an option to save the cursor in the screenshot
[17:15] <Atharva> home*
[17:16] <qmr> Atharva: it shouldn't be any different, assuming the wifi and ethernet are the same net
[17:16] <jiltdil> Atharva,  use nfs share if both are linux, or u can use samba also make samba share
[17:16] <pikaciu> Atharva: did you config the wifi ?
[17:16] <qmr> or you can use ssh, which requires no additional setup
[17:16] <qmr> has hella overhead though.  try watching a movie over ssh
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> qmr: you can, use the ascii output ;)
[17:18] <Atharva> pikaciu : See..1st I Created a new wifi connection..2nd connected the other laptop to the same natwork (Which the wifi reciever identified)..Now what next ?
[17:19] <qmr> Atharva: just connect the same way you did before
[17:19] <Atharva> qmr : nautilus smb://<ip add>/ ??
[17:20] <qmr> that's one way, sure
[17:20] <pikaciu> Atharva: ping
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> qmr: try: mplayer -vo aa:driver=curses video.avi    over SSH ;)
[17:20] <pikaciu> Atharva: ping to check the two pc
[17:20] <jiltdil> Atharva,  Also check your iptables or just do hosts allow
[17:21] <qmr> uhhhhh huh.  and what about audio :P
[17:21] <pikaciu> Atharva: then configure smb.conf
[17:21] <meowsus> Well, here's another issue I've been experiencing <http://www.screenshots.cc/photos/thumb/50810-8wtc8.jpg> Whenever I'm working with full screen windows in Oneiric running Unity, this appears, but I'm not dragging a window over to the left side to enable this feature. The window is maximized every time i see this.
[17:22] <meowsus> I have to unminimize and then remaximize to fix it. Hitting ESC or clicking around does nothing.
[17:22]  * jiltdil Atharva  just need to go through docs, suggesting to study a bit
[17:23] <meowsus> bassliner, !!! I got it to do it again, but as soon as i hit printscreen it fixes itself!
[17:23] <hexacode> how do i echo a tab into a file   with this syntax   {   echo "`date`\t $entry" >> dumpfile }
[17:24] <meowsus> It's almost like the output is layered on top of itself
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> qmr: not worked that bit out, fun stuff though
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> qmr: stick subtitles on :)
[17:24] <pikaciu> Atharva: you can for now this: [global]
[17:24] <pikaciu> workgroup = UBUNTU
[17:24] <pikaciu> netbios name = ubu
[17:24] <pikaciu> security = share
[17:24] <pikaciu> [data]
[17:24] <pikaciu> comment = ubun
[17:24] <pikaciu> path = /home/pikaciu
[17:24] <pikaciu> read only = no
[17:24] <pikaciu> guest only = yes
[17:24] <jiltdil> Atharva,  Why not you are using nfs?
[17:25] <Atharva> !paste | pikaciu
[17:25] <pikaciu> sorry :|
[17:25] <wildbat> is there good tools for making flash in ubuntu/linux?
[17:26] <jiltdil> pikaciu, Atharva , if using /home/name u have to set selinux  context
[17:27] <bassliner> meowsus: you could try something like: sleep 5 && scrot screenshot.png
[17:27] <bassliner> meowsus: and then see if you can reproduce it within 5 secs
[17:27] <cvam> diff between grub-pc  and grun-install
[17:27] <p1ruj3> dr_willis okay, so really nothing i can do except get rid of 11.10 ?
[17:28] <pikaciu> Atharva: sometimes you have to mark your shared folder with share options in the menu
[17:28] <MICA> how would one change permission settings for COM ports?
[17:28] <bassliner> meowsus: shutter seems to be much to huge to justify an installation. it wants 40mbyte of binary stuff, which i think is not acceptable.
[17:28] <bassliner> +o
[17:28] <cvam> what is the difference  between grub-pc  and grub-install
[17:29] <Atharva> jiltdil pikaciu qmr : Thanks a lot :) ..Its working now :) :)
[17:29] <MICA> trying to access a port and it read "permission denied: /dev/ttyUSB
[17:29] <cvam> what is the difference  between grub-pc  and grub-install
[17:29] <jiltdil> Atharva,  Anytime :)
[17:29] <pikaciu> Atharva: what was wrong ?
[17:30] <meowsus> bassliner, I guess you're right. I use it for all of its easy screenshot editing capabilities, which are way quicker to use than GIMP
[17:30] <meowsus> I just knew it had a cursor capture setting
[17:30] <wildbat> MICA: put your user in proper group to get access
[17:30] <Atharva> pikaciu : I really dont know...It wasnt connecting few days before..But Now it did :)
[17:30] <infinii> Where should grub.cfg reside in a grub2+efi system? /boot/efi/grub/grub.cfg or /boot/efi/efi/grub/grub.cfg?
[17:31] <bassliner> meowsus: well thank you. :)
[17:31] <meowsus> ;)
[17:31] <lesshaste> when I try to play a video I get something that looks like http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/screenalx.png/
[17:31] <pikaciu> Atharva: maybe it was a devil penguin running in your systema !
[17:31] <nixbox> hi all
[17:31] <Atharva> pikaciu  ;)
[17:31] <obiwlan> did something change reagarding ctrl-keyboard-combos recently? i can't use them in kvm guests anymore
[17:32] <bobweaver> pikaciu:  could we see a lspci -nn | grep VGA
[17:32] <cvam> what is the difference  between grub-pc  and grub-install
[17:32] <infinii> cvam: grub-pc is grub2
[17:33] <lesshaste> any idea what is wrong?
[17:33] <pikaciu> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device [8086:2562] (rev 01)
[17:33] <bobweaver> pikaciu: thanks
[17:33] <nixbox> i have modified my wifi driver to print some per packet information. I am using an old machine with 1G of ram and modest processor. When there is lot of traffic, i get less throughput on the wireless link because of the number of messages that have to be printk()'ed, is there a way around this, except reducing the frequency of my printk()s or printing a statisitical summary of the measured values?
[17:33] <cvam> infinii: i enter the command grub . but it says program is currently not installed. how is it possible ?
[17:34] <infinii> cvam: I'm not sure you're supposed to invoke grub like that. grub-install or update-grub
[17:34] <bobweaver> pikaciu: I know that this is kinda old but have you ruled this out ? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10517577
[17:34] <qmr> whoever advised to do flash reinstall, thanks
[17:35] <BridgeCollapse> nixbox: I guess re-compiling the kernel with the right choices for printk may help
[17:35] <qmr> video has played smoothly for about 3 minutes, and has 8 minutes buffered
[17:35] <nixbox> BridgeCollapse: right choices?
[17:35] <BridgeCollapse> also there may be a boot parameter you can use to make the userspace printk thread accept more messages
[17:35] <pikaciu> bobweaver: too hard for me
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> qmr: np man
[17:36] <qmr> ActionParsnip: I take it back.
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> qmr: take what back?
[17:36] <Newbeeans> am i here
[17:36] <qmr> as soon as I said that, I lost audio in flash video :|
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Newbeeans: always
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> qmr: d'oh
[17:36] <bobweaver> pikaciu: what happens when you open additinal drivers ?
[17:36] <qmr> video playback is still fine, but ... no audio
[17:36] <Newbeeans> ActionParsnip: yes but sometimes i'm just a hangin' :))
[17:36] <pikaciu> bobweaver: nothing
[17:36] <stow> Does anyone know the name of the program in kde that automatically installs debian packages?
[17:37] <Apollonovich> kpackagekit
[17:37] <bobweaver> stow: dpkg ?
[17:37] <pikaciu> bobweaver: blank list
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> qmr: try closing the browser and run:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse; rm ~/.pulse-cookie
[17:37] <bobweaver> pikaciu: ahh
[17:37] <BridgeCollapse> nixbox: I would get the info for you, but I'm currently busy with soup, then I got stuff to do
[17:37] <stow> A program like ubuntu has
[17:38] <stow> I forgot the name
[17:38] <pikaciu> bobweaver: i'm using an old IBM NetVista
[17:38] <nixbox> BridgeCollapse: thanks anyways, I will look it up.
[17:38] <bobweaver> pikaciu: could we see /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf    pastebin please
[17:38] <qmr> ActionParsnip: still no sound
[17:38] <bobweaver> stow: what about gdebi
[17:39] <BridgeCollapse> what does "cat /proc/asound/cards" say ?
[17:39] <qmr> erm.. let me be more specific.  no sound in flash playback in browser
[17:39] <bobweaver> stow: https://launchpad.net/gdebi
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> qmr: try rebooting, fixes stuff
[17:40] <bassliner> biggest problem i have with unity is that the alt-tab switcher often happens to be BEHIND the currently focused window, making it impossible to see it (apart from the shine-through of the active transparent terminal), which is a complete no-go, and a bug where i have no idea how this passes any QA.
[17:40] <qmr> ... isn't the reason to use linux so that one doesn't need to reboot?
[17:40] <pikaciu> bobweaver: command not found
[17:40] <bobweaver> pikaciu: what what what
[17:40] <p1ruj3> qmr i was wondering the same thing :D
[17:40] <Apollonovich> is there a way to roll back updates?  yesterday there were updates to the kerberos client files, and today I can't authenticate.
[17:40] <bobweaver>  pikaciu cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[17:41] <qmr> I'm working on a rather impressive 4d of uptime here
[17:41] <BridgeCollapse> I normally have my PC boot once, in the morning, and thats it.
[17:41] <pikaciu> bobweaver: yes
[17:41] <bobweaver> pikaciu: locate blacklist.conf
[17:41] <Shokorog> ubuntu is very automated compared to other linux distributions, so the old myths of ye are no longer valid in that sense. some things sadly require reboots, especially after a large update to the core
[17:41] <bobweaver> pikaciu: WHERE IS IT
[17:41] <bobweaver> caps sorry
[17:41] <qmr> I usually cheat and do init 1
[17:41] <pikaciu> # This file lists those modules which we don't want to be loaded by
[17:41] <pikaciu> # alias expansion, usually so some other driver will be loaded for the
[17:41] <pikaciu> # device instead.
[17:41] <pikaciu> # evbug is a debug tool that should be loaded explicitly
[17:41] <pikaciu> blacklist evbug
[17:41] <FloodBot1> pikaciu: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:41] <pikaciu> # these drivers are very simple, the HID drivers are usually preferred
[17:41] <BridgeCollapse> bbl->stuff to do
[17:42] <bobweaver> pikaciu: or     sudo   find  / -name blacklist.conf
[17:42] <Shokorog> hah
[17:42] <Shokorog> init 1 is a neat trick, can't say i used it though - i be a nooblar.
[17:43] <bobweaver> !pastebin | pikaciu
[17:43] <venomcode> anyone here have GNOME desktop enviroment installed?
[17:43] <bobweaver> venomcode:  which one ?
[17:43] <qmr> venomcode: just ask your question
[17:43] <venomcode> to set themes
[17:43] <bobweaver> !ask | venomcode
[17:43] <venomcode> makes a Advanced settings dialod
[17:44] <venomcode> diaglog *
[17:44] <qmr> alright, going to try rebooting :|
[17:45] <pikaciu> http://pastebin.com/9ZBfNP2a
[17:45] <pikaciu> bobweaver: http://pastebin.com/9ZBfNP2a
[17:45] <bobweaver> pikaciu: ypou have medibuntu repos installed ?>
[17:45] <pikaciu> bobweaver: i think so, not sure
[17:46] <p1ruj3> the heck is going on in nautilus where transfer rates are .6 mb/s where command line is 12 mb/s ?
[17:46] <pikaciu> bobweaver: ya... i installed the codecs
[17:46] <p1ruj3> That's like a huge difference....
[17:47] <bobweaver> pikaciu:  ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[17:47] <lesshaste> how safe is lucidbleed?
[17:47] <doughtr> sup?
[17:47] <pikaciu> bobweaver: medibuntu.list
[17:47] <sadlerg> Sup dawg.
[17:48] <licastb> NMU?
[17:48] <coronam> #allegheny
[17:48] <bobweaver> pikaciu: cool
[17:48] <songz> a
[17:48] <Guest31528> I'm Batman
[17:48] <pikaciu> bobweaver: really ?
[17:50] <p1ruj3> [442758.000052] usb 1-5: new high speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd doesn't that mean it's usb 2.0 ?
[17:50] <Powergiant> Hey guys. I Just installed Xubuntu, and now I can't get my Mp3 player to mount. It worked automatically in ubuntu, so I think it's a little strange. I can see the device with lsusb, so it's there.. So how do I make it mount?
[17:50] <licastb> Cool!
[17:50] <p1ruj3> 1.0 should be around 12mbit/s, which is what it's transferring at now that im not copying through nautilus... but isn't 2.0 like 400mb/s ?
[17:51] <venomcode> how do you ask a question in here without getting in trouble
[17:51] <pikaciu> bye
[17:51] <smoke_> hi
[17:51] <MindSpark> venomcode, you pray and hope for the best
[17:51] <smoke_> hii guys
[17:51] <p1ruj3> Powergiant man mount
[17:52] <venomcode> anyone have GNOME Tweak Tool
[17:52] <bobweaver> pikaciu whatever
[17:52] <smoke_> hii
[17:52] <b0ot> Is there a way to create a virtual dev on my linux box that is bound with an internal IP address, and create a virtual device that is bound with an external IP address. Meaning have raw data comming to a local ip address of my machine, but my machine will see that is data comming in on virtual_dev_input and then I have a virtual_dev_output that a program sends info to which is actually sending it to an external ip address
[17:52] <bobweaver> hi smoke_ do you have a questions ?
[17:52] <p1ruj3> Powergiant mount  [your device] /mnt/mp3 [where to mount]
[17:53] <venomcode> i did bob
[17:53] <smoke_> yes .. what kind of chatroom is this??
[17:53] <nik_> Hi!
[17:53] <bobweaver> smoke_:  read the topic
[17:53] <luis_> venomcode: Have you tried Ubuntu Tweek?
[17:53] <smoke_> where is it??
[17:53] <bobweaver> !pm | smoke_
[17:53] <p1ruj3> b0ot ppp tunnel?
[17:54] <jacobfogg> I was trying to tweak Unity and started following these instructions: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity/62903#62903 ..... After opening the CompizConfig Setting Manager, which didn't look like the first image shown, I chose a tab on the left,  my screen blinked, and I lost all of the navigational stuff... the unity bar on the left, the menu stuff that lives at the top, etc... I logged out and back in and all I get is a desktop.
[17:54] <jacobfogg> .. I had to login to Ubuntu 2D to get here... =/ HELP!!!
[17:54] <Powergiant> p1ruj3, Ok, I think I can figure that out from the man. Is there an (easy) way to make it automated ?
[17:54] <smoke_> hää???
[17:54] <b0ot> p1ruj3, what do you mean
[17:54] <Atharva> smoke_ Please join #ubuntu-offtopic :)
[17:54] <p1ruj3> Powergiant not with the default browser in xubuntu
[17:54] <p1ruj3> !xubuntu
[17:55] <bluelight> i  ugraded to 11.10 from 11.04 and nor new stuff that requires authen tication along with some old stuff not installed with the update all fail to request authentication. they simply say they are waiting for it and then fail... never a prompt to enter password... what can be done ?
[17:55] <bluelight> nor=now *
[17:55] <Powergiant> p1ruj3, Ok. Thanks for the help :)
[17:56] <p1ruj3> bluelight install fresh without upgrade would fix :D
[17:56] <apollo00> can anyone tell me the best way to set up a ubuntu internet kiosk with firefox
[17:56] <p1ruj3> b0ot google that, not sure exactly what you are trying to do, almost counds like you are asking about ipf except for this virtual device stuff...
[17:56] <jacobfogg> Anyone??? My Ubuntu Unity is dead ...
[17:57] <bluelight> i am not willing to re configure my entire desktop plruj3 and re install every app i have carefully set up. this "re-install everything" salution is one of the major reasons i left microSoft.
[17:57] <p1ruj3> jacobfogg run "sudo unity --replace" in terminal
[17:57] <coronam> you guys suck
[17:58] <bobweaver> bluelight:  you have looked at keyring and also sudoers file ?
[17:58] <soledelsud> ciao
[17:58] <pp7> can anyone get AIM to work in empathy?
[17:58] <bobweaver> coronam:  what what what ?
[17:58] <p1ruj3> bluelight might want to stick to only upgrading to LTS then bro, or do a little research before upgrading nexttime
[17:58] <pp7> keeps asking for password even though correct
[17:58] <coronam> yall suck
[17:58] <B0g4r7> pp7, I connect to an aim account using empathy without problems.
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> pp7: tried pidgin?
[17:58] <IRsee> yall aint a word
[17:58] <BlueEagle> !language | coronam
[17:59] <bluelight> bobweaver: keyring ... ok i know what that is. what is sudo-ers file ?
[17:59] <pp7> pidgin seems to work
[17:59] <Netoniel> ubuntu forever ))
[17:59] <pp7> what server are u using for AIM?
[17:59] <BlueEagle> IRsee: Actually that's a new package in 11.10. :p
[17:59] <coronam> aint aint in the dictionary
[17:59] <bobweaver> coronam:  you like going to school at allegheny
[17:59] <helo> how do i get a desktop oneiric install to just present me with normal console mode linux?
[17:59] <B0g4r7> pp7, whatever the default is.  I actually switched to pidgin the other week.
[17:59]  * DCore hi
[17:59] <bobweaver> coronam: good school ? do you have a question >
[17:59] <coronam> do you like being unaffiliated bobweaver?
[18:00] <B0g4r7> pp7, but empathy worked just fine.
[18:00] <p1ruj3> bluelight more specific details on your errors would certainly help - It could be as easy as modifying one of these -   /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.udisks.policy
[18:00] <Lithos84> helo: Remove GDM.
[18:00] <pp7> B0g4r7: can u check what server you're using please :)
[18:00] <B0g4r7> pp7, slogin.oscar.aol.com:5190
[18:00] <pp7> helo: remove ubuntu desktop
[18:01] <pp7> B0g4r7: hmm yea that's what i'm using
[18:01] <pp7> ah well
[18:01] <bluelight> ok plruj3 ... i will also check "/usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.udisks.policy"
[18:01] <bobweaver> bluelight:  the sudoers file holds a command if or not to ask for password I think that the keyring that ubuntu uses use e/passwd or /ect/shadow
[18:01] <BlueEagle> helo: If you would want X to start upon boot you would want to stop gdm from starting automatically.
[18:01] <helo> it seems to leave me on tty7 after boot
[18:02] <bluelight> bobweaver: thanks ... i will check for that file as well :)
[18:02] <vooze> I'm trying to run win xp in virtualbox on xubuntu 11.10 but it cant find my GFX card, is there anything im missing in virtualbox?
[18:03] <p1ruj3> blue light that policy is for mounting viewing etc disk drives
[18:03] <bobweaver> vooze: additanal software ?
[18:03] <p1ruj3> bluelight  ls /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/
[18:03] <bobweaver> vooze: I can rember what it is called look under machine
[18:03] <vooze> bobweaver: what additional software?
[18:04] <bluelight> well the two main programs i have the issue with are dealing with package managment and partition manipulation
[18:04] <vooze> bobweaver: look under machine??? what the heck are you talking about?
[18:04] <p1ruj3> change no to yes inside the udisks and see if that fixes it, note security concerns though.
[18:05] <bobweaver> vooze:  devices >> install guest additions
[18:05] <helo> looks like i can disable "quite splash" in /etc/default/grub to remove the vt.handoff, which leaves vt7 active until a console switch
[18:05] <helo> err quiet
[18:05] <bluelight> plruj3 thanks, i have added the directory listing to my notes :)
[18:06] <p1ruj3> package management? try just running "sudo synaptic" from terminal
[18:06] <bobweaver> p1ruj3:  do you mean gksudo synaptic ?
[18:06] <__kozak__|work> Hi All, my ubuntu  Natty just hangs once everyday. I have a feeling it is to do with the browser. Can someone tell me how to get info on kernel panics/freeze
[18:06] <vooze> bobweaver: i cant :/ http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/skrmbillede-25-10-2011-200616.php
[18:07]  * bobweaver says funny looking link  
[18:07] <p1ruj3> bobweaver yes
[18:07] <bluelight> i do ... synaptic is fantastic. though, i prefer to tackel my system when it decides to go about refusing to alow me control of it :)
[18:07] <vooze> bobweaver: its just an image :(
[18:07] <vooze> :) *
[18:07] <vooze> 2 sec, uploading elsewere if you want
[18:08] <Reaper> aww you cant do guest on an image?
[18:08] <p1ruj3> bobweaver pretty sure sudo would work tho :D
[18:08] <bluelight> synaptic is what i use when my prefered package managers fail for any reason.
[18:08] <bobweaver> p1ruj3:  cool idnkt
[18:08] <bluelight> :D beccause synaptic is the best for reliability ;)
[18:08] <bobweaver> thanks
[18:09] <p1ruj3> bobweaver main difference is if you have a terminal window open, or if you use ubuntu's "windows run" window heheh
[18:09] <bluelight> bobweaver: plruj3: thanks for the information. i am gone .. :)
[18:09] <panfist> i have a disk partitioned with LVM with ubuntu 10.10 on it, and i'd like to shrink that existing lvm paritition so that i can install ubuntu 11.10 side by side. i'm really having a hard time finding out how to do things with lvm,
[18:09]  * bluelight eats luch :p
[18:10] <bobweaver> p1ruj3:  and gksudo synaptic &       would also show what could be happening ?
[18:10] <panfist> which is funny because lvm was recommended because i thought it was supposed to simplify stuff like this
[18:10] <vooze> bobweaver: www.vooze.dk/billeder/ss200.png -- there you go ;)
[18:10] <bobweaver> !paste | vooze
[18:10] <bobweaver> its cool I am looking at it now \
[18:11] <vooze> bobweaver: http://imagebin.org/180713
[18:11] <bobweaver> vooze:  you are connected to the internet with vbox ?
[18:11] <alexGlasgow> hi, is there a way to install notepad++ ?
[18:11] <vooze> yes
[18:12] <bobweaver> umm looks like it cant find the repo
[18:12] <IchGucksLive> hi all i need help with a failue on khudb here is my dmesg http://paste.pocoo.org/show/498051/
[18:12] <bobweaver> vooze: ls /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[18:13] <IchGucksLive> maybe this is caused by the APIC that shots down the USB FTDT Serial port
[18:13] <p1ruj3> bobweaver looks like just sudo'ing will chown to root on .home files, so you really should run sudo, my bad..
[18:13] <vooze> bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/719047/
[18:13] <p1ruj3> shouldn't rather...
[18:14] <bobweaver> vooze:  how did you install vbox ?
[18:14] <bobweaver> p1ruj3:  thanks I did not know that :>)
[18:14] <vooze> bobweaver: from software center
[18:15] <bobweaver> ok
[18:15] <bobweaver> vooze:  try  to install from the website
[18:15] <bobweaver> then dpkg -i   it
[18:15] <vooze> bobweaver: okay, so remove the the old one first?
[18:15] <bobweaver> vooze:  just a thought no garentys
[18:15] <guntbert> bobweaver: he can add a repository there too
[18:15] <bobweaver> vooze:  no
[18:16] <bobweaver> guntbert:  Cool
[18:16] <bobweaver> guntbert:  add apt-repostiory <name of repo >   ?
[18:17] <guntbert> bobweaver: instructions are on the website
[18:17] <christoffer> Does anyone know the correct OpenID link if I want to use my launchpad account for another site? (https://launchpad.net/~username doesn't seem to work for me)
[18:17] <tcpa252> HEllo boys and gals
[18:17] <guntbert> vooze: if you need support for virtualbox you can ask in #vbox
[18:18] <bobweaver> guntbert:  sweet it is deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian oneiric contrib
[18:18] <Caboose885> tcpa252: hi there
[18:18] <Statesman> Hello? Anybody online?
[18:18] <guntbert> bobweaver: :)
[18:18] <Statesman> Oh good. :)
[18:18] <guntbert> Statesman:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:19]  * bobweaver says to guntbert you sir are awesome :>) 
[18:19] <Statesman> I've got more of a location question. Lol
[18:19] <Statesman> Anybody here from North Carolina?
[18:19] <Antaranian> hi ladies
[18:19] <bobweaver> Statesman:  no I why ???
[18:20] <Statesman> I'm trying to find a LUG, but I can't find one. =(
[18:20] <guntbert> !ot | Statesman
[18:20] <bobweaver> Statesman:  look online
[18:20] <Statesman> Oh okay. Thanks!
[18:20] <bobweaver> Statesman:  also look for hackerspaces
[18:20] <Antaranian> what is the best way to upgrade from 9.4 to 11.10
[18:20] <Antaranian> ՞
[18:20] <Antaranian> ?
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> quit
[18:20] <Gentoo64> clean install
[18:20] <Caboose885> Antaranian: clean install
[18:21] <Caboose885> Gentoo64: :D
[18:21] <luis_> clean install
[18:21] <Antaranian> clean install
[18:21] <Gentoo64> its the clean install virus
[18:22] <Caboose885> Antaranian: Are you even sure if the computer will support 11.10?
[18:22] <bobweaver> Antaranian:  back up back up back up 1st
[18:22] <hwilde> how to stop iphone automount but allow other devices to automount?  a udev example would be nice maybe?  don't just say udev rules.
[18:23] <Antaranian> actually the problem is that here I don't (I can't) have any usb disks or cds plugged
[18:23] <Gentoo64> can you use fstab for iphne?
[18:23] <Gentoo64> if so, noauto?
[18:23] <Caboose885> Antaranian: how did you originally install the OS then?
[18:23] <bobweaver> Antaranian:  remastersys and ubuntu 1 ??
[18:23] <bobweaver> for back uip
[18:23] <Huey_> I've just upgraded from 11.04->11.10 on a gateway netbook.   Several things are broken:  1.  It doesn't recognize my keyboard properly (e.g., xev shows the up arrow as print); 2.  The dm ignores the options for other sessions (e.g., gnome classic [yes I installed gnome-panel].   No matter what I select I end up in unity.
[18:24] <Antaranian> Caboose885: it was more than 2 years ago, before I leave for army
[18:24] <bobweaver> Huey_:  ubuntu fallback ?
[18:24] <Huey_> bobweaver: what do you mean?
[18:24] <jiru> Hola!!
[18:25] <Reaper> try typing the password, then selecting gnome classic, then hit enter.
[18:25] <bobweaver> Huey_:  http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/gnome-session-fallback
[18:25] <Reaper> it worked for me.
[18:25] <Antaranian> Caboose885: war changes everything, no I have not cd-rom and usb sticks :) is there any option ?
[18:27] <pp7> Huey_: upgrades work fine for very few
[18:27] <Gentoo64> Antaranian: you could just try upgrading
[18:27] <pp7> Huey_: try reinstalling from scratch
[18:27] <Huey_> Reaper: it doesn't change anything here
[18:28] <bobweaver> Huey_:  have you install fallback ?
[18:28] <Antaranian> I'm getting something like "You can't upgrade to ... with this tool" when I use Synaptic Update manager
[18:28] <Reaper> Huey_ thats about all I got for ya lol
[18:28] <Huey_> bobweaver: not as far as I know
[18:28] <tcpa252> guys, is it possible that system uses swap, although in /etc/sysctl.conf "vm.swappiness" param is set to 0?
[18:28] <bobweaver> Huey_:  sudo apt-get install gnome-session-fallback
[18:28] <Gentoo64> tcpa252: yes
[18:29] <Gentoo64> tcpa252: 0 means it only uses it if necesary
[18:29] <tcpa252> Gentoo64: oh, ok. Misunderstood the meaning of 0, though it was not to be used at all :D
[18:29] <Huey_> bobweaver: the latest version was installed
[18:30] <bobweaver> try to remove and install again
[18:30] <Linuxlainen> hi, I'm running ubuntu 11.10 and I want to get red of GUI interface (natty, gdn..)
[18:30] <Gentoo64> tcpa252: you'd have to remove the swap partition
[18:30] <bobweaver> Huey_:
[18:30] <Linuxlainen> how can I do that
[18:30] <TimRiker> I'm looking for a daemon process that will accept iptables forwarded tcp connections (not just http) and redirect them though an http-connect proxy. (not a socks proxy). suggestions? redsocks does this, but apparently not yet packaged for ubuntu. http://darkk.net.ru/redsocks/
[18:30] <lesshaste> when I try to play a video I get something that looks like http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/screenalx.png
[18:30] <Gentoo64> Linuxlainen: install the server
[18:30] <lesshaste>  any idea what is wrong?
[18:30] <michael_mbp> any sendmail experts about?
[18:30] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: on the whole screen? or just the video
[18:30] <tcpa252> Gentoo64: nah, I'm fines with it, was asking just because saw swap being used in htop
[18:30] <Gentoo64> ok
[18:30] <bobweaver> Huey_:  also reconfigure gdm or what every desktop manager you are using would not hurt
[18:31] <michael_mbp> or knowledge how mail daemons work?
[18:31] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: just the vid
[18:31] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: what player is it?
 I don't want to make fresh install
[18:31] <||arifaX> michael_mbp: I would recommend you just ask the question
[18:31] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: mplayer
[18:31] <farhad2161> :-D
 I already have my machine set with what  want
[18:31] <michael_mbp> sure.
[18:31] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: have you tried with different outputs? vo=x11 etc... what graphics card do you use
 I tried rcconf but it didn't work
[18:32] <Huey_> bobweaver: I thought 11.10 uses lightdm?
[18:32] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: yes... x11 works. xv does not
[18:32] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: nvidia card?
[18:32] <bobweaver> Huey_:  it does that is why I said "whatever desktop manager that you are using "
[18:32] <michael_mbp> When mails sent out, the receiving server does a reverse look I presume - what ports need to be open on the server sending out the mail?
[18:32] <michael_mbp> I'm getting Connection refused by all mail servers
[18:32] <Huey_> bobweaver: is there a tool to configure it?
[18:32] <bobweaver> Huey_:  do you know how to reconfigure ?
[18:33] <LucidGuy> Made the jump to 11.10 .. and umm ... HATE IT!  Even Gnome-Classic is quirky .. get all these odd panels at the top.  What is everyone else doing?
[18:33] <Huey_> bobweaver: nope
[18:33] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: onboard ATI Technologies Inc RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200G Series]
[18:33] <michael_mbp> probably because the server sending the mail is behind our corp. firewall.  I need to NAPT whatever ports that need to be opened for the reverse look up.
[18:33] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: use vo=x11 if it works
[18:33] <Linuxlainen> any suggestions?
[18:33] <bobweaver> Huey_:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[18:33] <lesshaste> LucidGuy: lubuntu :)
[18:33] <michael_mbp> right now, it's fully sealed off from the web.
[18:33] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: :) that's slow
[18:33] <bobweaver> Huey_: or what ever desktop you are using
[18:33] <michael_mbp> |||arifaX thoughts
[18:33] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: yeah, but it could be the graphics drivers im not sure
[18:34] <LucidGuy> lesshaste, Does Canonical manage lubuntu?
[18:34] <Reaper> lucidguy mostly going back to 11.04
[18:34] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: ok.. how do I tell whicj driver I am using exactly?
[18:34] <lesshaste> LucidGuy: yes
[18:34] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: did you install the "additional drivers" thing?
[18:34] <Gentoo64> if not then itd be the kernel default driver
[18:34] <lesshaste> err... I can't remember :(
[18:34] <LucidGuy> Have you all had the same experience? .. what a mess.  Very very unhappy.
[18:35] <LucidGuy> Is Lubuntu making any progress over xubuntu?
[18:35] <bobweaver> LucidGuy:  no I am verry happy besides the perl update
[18:35] <lesshaste> LucidGuy: xfce?
[18:35] <lesshaste> that's what linus t uses
[18:35] <||arifaX> michael_mbp: the target server might reverse-lookup what is behind the @ and then checks if the ip-address you send the mail from is the correct mx for it.
[18:35] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: try running glxinfo | grep render
[18:35] <Gentoo64> should say the card and if opengl is in use
[18:35] <LucidGuy> I want the power user simplicity of xfce . .but I also like a little eye candy.
[18:36] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: kde? idk
[18:36] <bobweaver> LucidGuy: kubunntu ??
[18:36] <prakas> they should have set XFCE as the default DE instead of GNOME 3
[18:36] <michael_mbp> |||arifaX the issue is I did setup a MX
[18:36] <LucidGuy> What are you guys using?
[18:36] <michael_mbp> but the mail was send from foo.bar.org
[18:36] <Gentoo64> openbox
[18:36] <prakas> and unity*
[18:36] <Reaper> I got gnome classic to work
[18:36] <michael_mbp> and there is a MX for bar.org with a different ip
[18:36] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: direct rendering: No (If you want to find out why, try setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose)
[18:36] <bobweaver> LucidGuy: I have 4 diferent desktop installed on 11.10
[18:36] <lesshaste> OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS480
[18:36] <Reaper> if not, i would have went back to 11.04
[18:36] <bobweaver> sorry 5
[18:37] <michael_mbp> what port does it try connecting to on the MX IP though?
[18:37] <LucidGuy> hmmm ..
[18:37] <Huey_> bobweaver: dpkg-reconfigure didn't help
[18:37] <michael_mbp> does it just reverse look up, or ping or something?
[18:37] <LucidGuy> what to do .. what to do.
[18:37] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: try checking the additional drivers from the system settings screen, if there are none i think vo=x11 would be as good as youll get
[18:37] <prakas> Reaper how to make gnome classic work in 11.10
[18:37] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: try livecds see what you like
[18:37] <bobweaver> Huey_:  you have unitstalled fallback and reinstalled it with purge ?
[18:37] <LucidGuy> I can't believe Ubuntu is pushing Unity on everyone .. what were they thinking
[18:37] <||arifaX> michael_mbp: it does a nslookup for an mx record of that domain
[18:38] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: i personally think gnome 3 is the best looking de
[18:38] <||arifaX> michael_mbp: whats the public domain name
[18:38] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: where exactly?
[18:38] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: try in terminal typing jockey-gtk
[18:38] <prakas> gnome 3/unity are fail
[18:38] <Linuxlainen> OK I got it
[18:38] <Gentoo64> i think thats what its still called
[18:38] <Linuxlainen> I had to remove lightdm, that was all
[18:38] <Linuxlainen> I hope :P
[18:38] <bobweaver> Gentoo64: yes but will need gksudo
[18:38] <Atharva> !notunity | prakas
[18:38] <LucidGuy> I can adapt to pretty much any one of them .. I just want to choose something that the masses are going to use in the future, and I find it hard to believe Unity will be the way of the future.
[18:38] <Gentoo64> Linuxlainen: yeah if you remove the login manager itll revert you to  a term
[18:38] <Reaper> prakas its kind of a crap shoot, some get it to work and some dont
[18:39] <Huey_> bobweaver: I did apt-get remove followed by apt-get install
[18:39] <michael_mbp> public domain is our corporate domain
[18:39] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: cool.. none
[18:39] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: xfce gnome3 and kde will be the normal ones (and are the normal ones)
[18:39] <bobweaver> Huey_:  try sudo apt-get --purge remove  <name>   && sudo apt-get installl <name >
[18:39] <prakas> i think i will install gnome-panel
 you are saying that lightdm is only for loging manager?
[18:40] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: not much you can do tbh. maybe one day upgrade the card if you can, nvidia uses vdpau its fast
 how can I get red of the unit all in all then?
[18:40] <LucidGuy> Gentoo64, Im thinking XFCE .. but concerned about all the reviews stating its not as lightweight as it looks...  lxde seems lighter
[18:40] <||arifaX> michael_mbp: try your domain here: http://www.mxtoolbox.com/
[18:40] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: :(
[18:40] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: theyre both light. xfce is more bloated than lxde
[18:40] <lesshaste> Gentoo64: it's clearly a problem with the radeon driver.. it used to work many upgrades ago
[18:40] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: but i though you wanted at least some eye candy? xubuntu is pretty nice tbh
[18:40] <michael_mbp> ah I have
[18:41] <michael_mbp> yea hte ip's are different
[18:41] <michael_mbp> that MX record points to the Exchange server
[18:41] <michael_mbp> (as that's the MX set for the TLD)
[18:41] <michael_mbp> as in bar.org
[18:41] <goshawk> hi
[18:41] <Gentoo64> lesshaste: it probably is. im really not sure about ati stuff
[18:41] <goshawk> i can't link people on empathy
[18:41] <michael_mbp> but I'm sending mail out from foo.bar.org
[18:41] <goshawk> does anyone have a solution
[18:41] <lesshaste> k
[18:42] <TimRiker> hmm... netcat does not do it. anyone recommend a simple daemon to do the equivalent of this? nc -k -l 8124 -X connect -x proxy:80
[18:42] <michael_mbp> doing a reverse MX on foo.bar.org gives the right address but what you're saying is it only does a reverse look up on bar.org
[18:42] <LucidGuy> Shall I try installing xubuntu-desktop .. Dont you all find installing multiple desktops gets messy?
[18:42] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: i would find it annoying
[18:42] <michael_mbp> hence the two IPs don't match and boom denied
[18:42] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: you can clean install...
[18:42] <LucidGuy> Gentoo64, as in Xubuntu you mean.
[18:42] <||arifaX> michael_mbp: it asks the responsible dns-server if it has an mx record for the domain of the email-senders email-address
[18:42] <Huey_> bobweaver: unless I need a reboot the --purge didn't help
[18:42] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: yea
[18:42] <LucidGuy> I know Linux uses xfce . .but what distro does he use it ontop of?
[18:42] <michael_mbp> so I'll have to set the domain as a smart host?
[18:43] <LucidGuy> Linus .. not linux
[18:43] <michael_mbp> and relay mail though?
[18:43] <bobweaver> Huey_:  ls /etc/gdm/
[18:43] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: he probably uses whatever...
[18:43] <Gentoo64> why copy him?
[18:43] <LucidGuy> Gentoo64, just curious
[18:43] <fremapesua> Hello everyone
[18:43] <bobweaver> Gentoo64:  +100
[18:43] <Scunizi> Where do I find the Md5 for the 32bit desktop version of 11.10?  It's not on the download page anywhere that I can see.  I'd like to compare before burning yet another cd.
[18:43] <bobweaver> !md5sum | Scunizi
[18:43] <LucidGuy> Ill give Xubuntu-desktop a try ...
[18:44] <LucidGuy> probably break it even more.
[18:44] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: good idea. i tried the livecd and it is nice
[18:44] <Gentoo64> nice for xfce
[18:44] <Linuxlainen> guys, any idea where is the tty1 file located in 11.10? it is not under /etc/events.d/
[18:44] <||arifaX> michael_mbp: I think we have the problem now, maybe you ask in a specific channel about the details?
[18:44] <LucidGuy> And Canonical is fully responsible for Xubuntu?  I just want to keep on supporting Ubuntu/Canonical
[18:44] <prakas> LucidGuy: i heard linus uses fedora + XFCE
[18:45] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: they all are afaik
[18:45] <LucidGuy> prakas, rpm vs apt .. eww
[18:45] <Scunizi> bobweaver, thanks .. the UbuntuHashes pages was what I was looking for.
[18:45] <Huey__> bobweaver: ls /etc/gdm
[18:45] <Huey__> Init/	    PostSession/  Xsession*    gdm.schemas
[18:45] <Huey__> PostLogin/  PreSession/   custom.conf
[18:45] <Gentoo64> prakas: you hear him using different stuff all the time...
[18:45] <michael_mbp> sure thanks
[18:45] <bobweaver> !pastebin | Huey_
[18:45] <prakas> Gentoo64 yes
[18:45] <Scunizi> bobweaver, except... 11.10 isn't listed.. just 11.04 and previous.. :(
[18:45] <Tadpole> Is it okay to ask technical questions here?
[18:45] <Gentoo64> prakas: he prob doesnt have a desktop he prob just sees how stuffs going lol
[18:46] <prakas> yes
[18:46] <Huey__> bobweaver: for what it's worth:  ls /etc/lightdm/
[18:46] <Huey__> lightdm.conf  unity-greeter.conf  users.conf
[18:46] <LucidGuy> Another annoying behavior of Unity .. when alt tabbing it only displays app groupings .. not each window .. .uuuurrrrrrrgggggggg
[18:46] <prakas> otherwise he could have made a decent desktop environment like gnome classic
[18:46] <prakas> he doesn't do any work most probably
[18:46] <Tadpole> I've upgraded to 11.10 and dolphin-emu doesn't work any more
[18:46] <venluckey> hello all
[18:46] <Tadpole> it says it needs libavcodec52
[18:46] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: honestly i think youd like xfce. xubuntu is just as nice as gnome 2
[18:46] <meowsus> So, I just had to rebuild my desktop (new mobo, processor, memory) and I was going to just reinstall Ubuntu Oneiric on it. It has a segregated /home partition. Can i just wipe the / partition and reinstall the system there? Will Ubuntu recognize that I already have a home directory and not overwrite it?
[18:46] <Tadpole> i've got 53 installed but can't seem to apt-get 52
[18:47] <Gentoo64> meowsus: yes
[18:47] <bobweaver> Huey_:  umm.... when was last time updared ? and what is kerenl     >>uname -a
[18:47] <Gentoo64> meowsus: just wipe / and leave /home as it and choose manual partitions on install
[18:47] <denysonique> Gentoo64: nice to see a ricer in this channel
[18:47] <bobweaver> updated *
[18:47] <Tadpole> How can I manually install libavcodec52?
[18:47] <meowsus> Gentoo64, killer
[18:47] <LucidGuy> Gentoo64, Just hate to walk away from Ubuntu...  its been such a great experience.
[18:47] <Gentoo64> meowsus: you might wana backup some /etc/stuff if you edited it
[18:47] <dirtycookie1> hi i have freshly installed ubuntu, and i have added gedit-plugins. i have noticed that the embedded-terminal plugin has a way to big font-size. how can i change that?
[18:47] <zmbmartin> anyone else have issues with banshee just quitting randomly?
[18:48] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: if you hate it what can you do. xuubntu is still ubuntu
[18:48] <meowsus> Yeah, I've got lists and some stuff in /opt too i'll back up
[18:48] <venluckey> yes i have in the past
[18:48] <Linuxlainen> Please some help in here
[18:48] <prakas> i was wondering why ubuntu doesnt come with VLC preinstalled and why the Media Player that doesnt play even mp3
[18:48] <Linuxlainen> where can I find ttyX files
[18:48] <meowsus> It booted just fine, but it's not recognizing the memory upgrade and its not running 11.10 so I figured I'd just do a fresh install
[18:48] <Scunizi> bobweaver, here's the link.. buired off another link http://releases.ubuntu.com/oneiric/MD5SUMS
[18:48] <Linuxlainen> they used to be in here /etc/events.d/
[18:48] <Huey__> bobweaver: 3.0.0-13-generic (updated yesterday ca 12:00 noon EDT)
[18:48] <denysonique> Is it possible to make the unity dock minimize programs, when I click an already opened application?
[18:48] <Gentoo64> prakas: some licence thing i think
[18:48] <Linuxlainen> but in 11.10
[18:48] <bobweaver> Scunizi:  you should tell the bot that
[18:48] <prakas> um
[18:48] <Gentoo64> prakas: why would it come with vlc? its crap
[18:48] <bobweaver> Huey_:  upgrade and restart anything ?
[18:49] <prakas> it plays anything
[18:49] <Gentoo64> attempts to play
[18:49] <Gentoo64> anything
[18:49] <Huey__> bobweaver: I've done that as of this morning
[18:49] <venluckey> im running xubuntu 10.04, it wants to upgrade to 10.10, is it worth it?
[18:49] <Scunizi> bobweaver, I try but .... it's like talking to a wall :)
[18:49] <bobweaver> do again have you updated and upgraded after re-install ???
[18:49] <Gentoo64> venluckey: go for it
[18:49] <prakas> venluckey: no not worth it
[18:49] <meowsus> I might try Lubuntu instead, just for fun
[18:49] <Huey__> bobweaver: yes
[18:49] <Gentoo64> venluckey: i doubt xfce will have as many problems as gnome unity etc
[18:50] <venluckey> im running the dread dell 910
[18:50] <Tadpole> How can I manually install libavcodec52?
[18:50] <bobweaver> Huey_:  try with kdm
[18:50] <Gentoo64> meowsus: youll probably end up staying with it
[18:50] <bobweaver> work ?
[18:50] <Huey__> bobweaver: I'll try again
[18:50] <LucidGuy> Gentoo64, Sure .. but isnt Xubuntu community based/supported .... Ubuntu is more Canonical controlled?
[18:50] <bobweaver> Huey_:  try with kdm gdm ect
[18:50] <bobweaver> find one that works
[18:50] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: tbh i have no idea. its all the same core system just a different desktop
[18:50] <Randolph> hi all
[18:50] <sal_> hi there anybody can helpme?
[18:50] <Randolph> I actually work on ufw
[18:50] <meowsus> Gentoo64, It doesn't use Gnome, but i assume all my Gnome apps are compatible. Unity has been a nightmare for me recently
[18:50] <venluckey> yeah i get my updates from Canonial
[18:51] <bobweaver> Huey_:  I have 5 desktop installed and kdm works great
[18:51] <Gentoo64> meowsus: yeah you can put any stuff on any de
[18:51] <Randolph> on ubuntu server that act as a gateway
[18:51] <LucidGuy> Gentoo64, for example .. will they have all the same packages?  Are there repo servers the same ones as ubuntu?
[18:51] <Gentoo64> meowsus: some people just dont like having a load of gnome / kde deps on light de/wms
[18:51] <Polah> prakas, Ubuntu doesn't ship with support for MP3 and some other formats due to legal reasons. It's the same with a lot of systems.
[18:51] <venluckey> i installed xubuntu from terminal, all my apps moved over too
[18:51] <prakas> venluckey: you can grab the .iso it will be less in download size than if you will upgrade
[18:51] <fremapesua> Hello everyone
[18:51] <Randolph> when I enable ufw there is no outgoing traffic from my lan to wan
[18:51] <prakas> Polah ok
[18:52] <sal_> ehy guys someone can help me
[18:52] <sal_> ?
[18:52] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: xfce comes with different set of default programs. the software centre should be the same
[18:52] <Test001> hello, i have a question. Im trying to print the characters inside the files from a determinated directory. However, ls -1 | wc --chars --files0-from=- doesnt work, cuz uses ls output as a single file. Any idea?
[18:52] <venluckey> im using school server, i thiunks Linux boes are backbones of it, no restrictions in bandwith
[18:52] <fremapesua> Nice
[18:52] <LucidGuy> brb .. going to try to switch to the xfce desktop ....
[18:52] <Randolph> Impossible to enable outgoing traffic
[18:52] <meowsus> Gentoo64, the new processor is a quad core and i have 8gbs now. I figure Lubuntu will be ridiculously fast. Maybe I can start even editing video! Haha
[18:52] <sal_> how can i save streaming from rhytmnbox?
[18:52] <Randolph> any idea ?
[18:52] <Gentoo64> meowsus: yeah. i use openbox on quad core
[18:52] <tripelb> Hi - I want to make a USB boot disk for this Macbook - have the iso, have the disk, have terminal on this tiger mac, have a webpage of instructions ( http://www.proposedsolution.com/howto/howto-macosx/create-bootable-usb-thumb-drive-iso/ ) but late last night it wasnt working so I went to sleep for clearer thinking today. -- Anyone good to help me?
[18:52] <pollo> i need helo with heroes of neweth in xubuntu 11.10
[18:52] <bobweaver> Test001:  sed ??
[18:52] <Randolph> I try every i could do
[18:53] <Gentoo64> meowsus: you want the ram + cpu for apps not the de lol
[18:53] <meowsus> Gentoo64, true!
[18:53] <Test001> bobweaver what do you mean ?
[18:53] <venluckey> i use the text based disc creator, it seems to have less problems
[18:53] <Huey_> bobweaver: rebooting didn't help.   How do I switch the display manager?
[18:53] <fremapesua> tritripltripelb as far as I know, u can't boot up ubuntu system on a Mac using a USB...
[18:54] <bobweaver> Huey_:  yes try that try kdm
[18:54] <Randolph> nobody knows how to setup ufw on a gateway ?
[18:54] <Huey_> bobweaver: how?
[18:54] <venluckey> ha, ha, I have done it many times, you have to fool the Mac into doing it though
[18:54] <bobweaver> ohh sorry
[18:54] <bobweaver> Huey_:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:54] <meowsus> Are there other, small de's for ubuntu other than Xubuntu and Lubuntu?
[18:54] <bobweaver> Huey_:  this will also give you kde desktop
[18:54] <bobweaver> plasma
[18:54] <LucidGuy> Gentoo64, so far soo good .. lets see if I can get compiz features working
[18:55] <venluckey> for me, my system is small (64 SSD) and 2 gig memory, dell mini 9, the xubuntu is perfect
[18:55] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: not sure about all that. xfce has its own comp manager
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver:
[18:55] <huggy-bear__AWAY> meowsus: http://linuxgazette.net/106/murray.html
[18:55] <Gentoo64> LucidGuy: i never use xfce though so dont know a load about it
[18:55] <Huey_> bobweaver: let me try gdm 1st.   How do I set that up?
[18:55] <venluckey> i dont think you could get much smaller de
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> Not plasma-desktop
[18:55] <Randolph> I enable outgoing traffic but I can not do wget to WAN or telnet on port 80
[18:55] <bobweaver> Huey_:  if you have install fallback mode then it should be installed
[18:55] <Gentoo64> venluckey: openbox is smaller. mine uses 80mb ram
[18:56] <venluckey> Wow
[18:56] <Gentoo64> for the whole comp
[18:56] <meowsus> huggy-bear__AWAY, thanks!
[18:56] <ActionParsnip> venluckey: or fluxbox
[18:56] <Huey_> bobweaver: I have gdm and lightdm installed, but it uses the latter
[18:56] <huggy-bear__AWAY> meowsus: http://linuxgazette.net/160/okopnik.html
[18:56] <venluckey> i need to look into that, i have a system that has 256 mem
[18:56] <bobweaver> Huey_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure   <name of desktop>
[18:56] <prakas> the 1st work that i did on my xfce installation was to remove the rat icon on the xfce button
[18:56] <Gentoo64> lol same when i tried it
[18:56] <Linuxlainen> cone on guys, will some one help me out in here
[18:57] <venluckey> ok,im upgrading...Crossing fingers
[18:57] <prakas> rat was annoying
[18:57] <prakas> the icon
[18:57] <Gentoo64> little gutter rat
[18:57] <Linuxlainen> I just need to know where are ttyX files located in 11.10
[18:57] <ActionParsnip> Linuxlainen: wassup?
[18:57] <sal_> how can i save streaming from rhytmnbox?
[18:57] <Huey_> bobweaver: tried that.  It shows lightdm and gdm, but since my arrow keys don't work, I cant change the setting
[18:57] <prakas> they should have made a cute hamster or a chipmunk instead
[18:57] <Gentoo64> prakas: xfce has a plain X icon that looks better
[18:57] <bobweaver> Huey_:  try tab
 any idea where can I find ttyX files in ubuntu 11.10
[18:58] <bobweaver> spacebar ect..
[18:58] <prakas> um
[18:58] <ActionParsnip> Linuxlainen: could use:  sudo find / | grep tty
[18:58] <Gentoo64> Linuxlainen: /dev
[18:58] <venluckey> I thinks i have a bad vid card, when i try to install any Ubuntu distro, it only shows half the screen
[18:58] <Huey_> bobweaver: that works, but it never goes to the gdm entry (lightdm and <OK>)
[18:58] <Linuxlainen> thank you both
[18:59] <Gentoo64> Linuxlainen: if you wana find something use the find command
[18:59] <yoga> When I run Stardict, it does not show up on the menu bar, how do I run it that menu bar, and then close the window?
[18:59] <Gentoo64> find / -name tty5
[18:59] <LemonAid> If i log in while my network cable is plugged in Ubuntu automaticly enables my wired connection. If i plug the cable only after i log in, the connection is not enabled. How do i enable it from the terminal ?
[18:59] <bobweaver> Huey_:  are you sure that you installed gnome-session-fallback ?
[19:00] <Huey_> bobweaver: several times
[19:00] <Gentoo64> LemonAid: i think its /etc/init.d/networking start
[19:00] <bobweaver> cool
[19:00] <huggy-bear> LemonAid: You can try: sudo /etc/init.d/network-manager restart  <--- That usually helps me.
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> yoga: can you drag it from dash?
[19:00] <ezrafree> how can i determine if a command is running in a bash script?
[19:00] <bobweaver> Huey_:  try kdm
[19:01] <yoga> ActionParsnip: no, I cannot.
[19:01] <ActionParsnip> ezrafree: look at the parent PID. If it is the PID of your script, you know where it came from
[19:01] <OnNomNom> hello all, i am new and need some help please
[19:01] <huggy-bear> ezrafree: ps -A | grep name_of_command
[19:01] <bobweaver> Huey_:  sudo apt-get install kdm   <-- worked but had to find depencies
[19:01] <OnNomNom> can anyone please help me out
[19:02] <OnNomNom> i am in urgent need of help
[19:02] <Gentoo64> OnNomNom: ask then
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> Yoga: does it have a dash entry though?
[19:02] <Gentoo64> troll
[19:02] <LemonAid> huggy-bear: thank you, that did the trick. Restarted my wireless connection as well though. Will check to see if i can do it without restarting that. Again, thanx !
[19:02] <venluckey> bye
[19:02] <Huey_> bobweaver: the install takes me back to the dpkg-reconfigure kdm and the problem with tab remains (I have a kdm option, but can't select it)
 I tried the find command, but I am ending with the wrong files, at least it seems like it :(
[19:02] <Huey_> bobweaver: isn't the dm a one line entry in a file somewhere?
 I am trying to reach tty1 file that used to be located under events.d
[19:02] <OnNomNom> yes, i installed Ubuntu via Wubi and when i restarted my computer Ubuntu has started up, now how do i switch back to Windows?
[19:02] <tolmun> aohi
[19:03] <OnNomNom> im sorry i mean Wibu
[19:03] <yoga> ActionParsnip: How to add stardict to tha dash entry?
[19:03] <bobweaver> Gentoo64:  Please dont feed the trolls they are nice to watch but like bears they belong in the wild or in a zoo :>)
[19:03] <Gentoo64> Linuxlainen: find / -name tty1 will find exactly the name tty1. try adding starts like find / -name *tty1* for anything including the name
 I'm editing that file to auto start an application I have on my box
[19:03] <ActionParsnip> OnNomNom: reboot
[19:03] <ezrafree> huggy-bear: thanks, but i am trying to start "gnome-panel" if it's not already running
[19:03] <huggy-bear> LemonAid: Sorry. I think you should read the network manager documentation: /usr/share/doc/network-manager/, also: man networkmanager
[19:03] <Linuxlainen> basically I need to add this line there exec /sbin/getty 38400 tty1
[19:03] <bobweaver> Huey_:  all things are files it linux :>)
[19:03] <OnNomNom> ActionParsnip: ok, and if i ever want to use Ubuntu again?
[19:03] <sudoaptkill> is it bad im chatting on fedora?...
[19:03] <sudoaptkill> lol
[19:03] <huggy-bear> ezrafree: then you should make an if statement that checks whether gnome-panel is running (with ps) and then acts accordingly
[19:03] <LemonAid> huggy-bear: will do !
[19:04] <Gentoo64> sudoaptkill: yes
[19:04] <sudoaptkill> lol
[19:04] <sudoaptkill> sorry gentoo
[19:04] <ActionParsnip> Yoga: you'll need a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications to run it. You can copy an existing file and edit
[19:04] <Gentoo64> Linuxlainen: what are you trying to acieve btw
[19:04] <agentgasmask> Hi all. Does anyone know what version of Adobe PDF the files that are created with the "print to file" option are compatable with?
[19:04] <OnNomNom> ActionParsnip: After going back to Windows, how do i switch over into Ubuntu again?
[19:04] <ghostnik11> can a person on ubuntu 11.10 get compiz features while in gnome 3 or is that a no, no?
[19:05] <Gentoo64> OnNomNom: it should dual boot, you should be able to chose at start
[19:05] <OnNomNom> Gentoo64: thank you very much.
 I want to add the this command in tty1 file "exec /sbin/mingetty --autologin uname tty1" for auto launch of xbmc
[19:05] <Gentoo64> OnNomNom: try it
[19:05] <ghostnik11> like you know the switching of opened program using tab and alt, like we could do with compiz in ubuntu 8.10
[19:05] <yoga> ActionParsnip: Let me try.
[19:05] <ActionParsnip> OnNomNom: reboot and select windows
[19:05] <ezrafree> huggy-bear: yeah, that's what i'm trying to do...
[19:05] <huggy-bear> agentgasmask: not sure, but I think it must be PDF 1.5 or something
[19:06] <OnNomNom> ok thank you...
[19:06] <bobweaver> Huey_:  up and down arrows are not workibng ?>
[19:06] <Gentoo64> Linuxlainen: hmm ask in #bash if you get no answers here im not sure about that
[19:06] <bobweaver> working *
[19:06] <OnNomNom> thank you guys, btw, how do i view the files from windows c drive in Ubuntu
[19:06] <huggy-bear> ezrafree: google for bash tutorials. just learn the if statement and you should be ok
[19:06] <OnNomNom> i can see them
[19:06] <OnNomNom> and how can i bring windows programs into ubuntu
[19:06] <bobweaver> Huey_:  is you num lock on ?
[19:06] <Gentoo64> OnNomNom: in the file manager. ubuntu come swith ntfs stuff built in
[19:06] <ezrafree> huggy-bear: this is what i have so far, http://pastebin.com/XJPYt1fi
[19:06] <ActionParsnip> Yoga: if you copy an office app, it will fall in the same category. You need to change name, comment, icon and exec
[19:07] <ezrafree> huggy-bear: i tried googling prior to asking in here, as i always do :)
[19:07] <Gentoo64> OnNomNom: but you cant see ext4 (ubuntu files) from windows, theres a driver but its bad
[19:07] <OnNomNom> so how do i go about it?
[19:07] <Gentoo64> you cant
[19:07] <OnNomNom> im sorry i dont know what i am doing.
[19:07] <Huey_> bobweaver: re numlock, no
[19:08] <OnNomNom> i mean how do i find files in windows c drive
[19:08] <Gentoo64> ext2read is a program that can (sort of) read ext4 drives
[19:08] <OnNomNom> here on ubuntu
[19:08] <Gentoo64> OnNomNom: go in the file manager and click the windows drive
[19:08] <Gentoo64> and the files will show upo
[19:08] <bobweaver> Huey_:  up and down arrows not working ?
[19:08] <OnNomNom> how do i go into file manager
[19:08] <yoga> ActionParsnip: /usr/share/applications/stardict.desktop already exist?
[19:08] <OnNomNom> all i see is dash and a couple of programs
[19:08] <OnNomNom> and thats all
[19:08] <OnNomNom> i dont know where to look
[19:08] <Gentoo64> OnNomNom: should be in the app list
[19:08] <OnNomNom> i am used to the windows layout
[19:08] <dirtycookie> hi i have freshly installed ubuntu, and i have added gedit-plugins. i have noticed that the embedded-terminal plugin has a way to big font-size. how can i change that?
[19:08] <Huey_> bobweaver: correct
[19:09] <bobweaver> Huey_:  with dpkg-reconfigure <name of desktiop>
[19:09] <Gentoo64> OnNomNom: might be called nautilus
[19:09] <bobweaver> Huey_:  that is odd
[19:09] <bobweaver> real odd
[19:09] <Huey_> xev shows wrong keyevent
[19:09] <ActionParsnip> OnNomNom: unless the app is extremely portable it won't run in Ubuntu. You can access all your files in windows via the /host folder. If you only have one NTFS partition you won't need any extra config
[19:09] <systemclient> Sometimes when I log into my 11.04 Gnome 2, it looks pretty crappy: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/25/gnome-panel_old_look.png Any reason for this?
[19:09] <Gentoo64> OnNomNom: oh you want to run the windows stuff in ubuntu? i thought you meant just view the files
[19:09] <Ragnarock> 1
[19:09] <Ragnarock> 1
[19:09] <Ragnarock> 1
[19:09] <Ragnarock> 1
[19:09] <Ragnarock> 1
[19:09] <FloodBot1> Ragnarock: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:09] <p1ruj3> hey can i define which bus to have a usb device use? I thought it was port specific but it keeps init'ing to bus 1 no matter which port I plug into...
[19:10] <ActionParsnip> Yoga: hmm. Weird. Look at another, it may need to be told to show in your desktop
[19:10] <OnNomNom> Gentoo, can i please private chat
[19:10] <OnNomNom> i cant keep up with all this chat scrool
[19:10] <Ragnarock> hi
[19:10] <Gentoo64> OnNomNom: ok
[19:10] <bobweaver> Huey_:  try this      gnome-terminal --working-directory ~ -e bash -lc "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm ; sleep 12 & bash "
[19:10] <Ragnarock> hi
[19:10] <Ragnarock> hello
[19:11] <Greg-beagle> hi
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> OnNomNom: in a terminal run:  ln -s /host ~/Windows
[19:11] <p1ruj3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/719092/
[19:11] <ActionParsnip> OnNomNom: makes life easier
[19:11] <yoga> ActionParsnip: I want it to show up the the dash at the top of the screen when it runs.
[19:12] <Ragnarock> help me plz
[19:12] <ActionParsnip> Yoga: dash is on the side. Do you mean the panel at the top?
[19:12] <yoga> ActionParsnip: you mean the stardict.desktop does that?
[19:12] <Ragnarock> hello boys ?
[19:12] <yoga> ActionParsnip: ah, yes the panel.
[19:13] <p1ruj3> anyone have any ideas?
[19:13] <yoga> ActionParsnip: I didn't know it's call the panel.
[19:13] <asir_> comerme el prepucio
[19:13] <OnNomNom> damn, Gentoo has left..
[19:13] <ActionParsnip> Yoga: maybe it doesn't sing with global-menu
[19:13] <Ragnarock> help me plaz
[19:13] <OnNomNom> anyone know how to start the file manager in ubuntu please
[19:13] <OnNomNom> ?
[19:13] <Huey_> bobweaver: looks like gdm will work--I just needed to reboot
[19:13] <bobweaver> omni_:  nataluse
[19:13] <MustardCU> OnNomNom, just start "nautilus"
[19:13] <asir_> how can i view if my pc can use RAID ?
[19:13] <mierdoso> hola ?????????'
[19:13] <bobweaver> not spelled right
[19:14] <Gentoo64> OnNomNom, sory
[19:14] <asir_> que pasa mierdoso
[19:14] <OnNomNom> i have the latest version, 11.10
[19:14] <yoga> ActionParsnip: When I star qstartdict the qt version of stardict it show up in the panel.
[19:14] <mierdoso> aqui mamonazo+
[19:14] <OnNomNom> and i dont see nautilus
[19:14] <asir_> comes muchas mierdas o que ?
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> OnNomNom: there will be a folder icon at the top of the bar on the left. Click that
[19:14] <meowsus> Gentoo64, one more question. My AMD Phenom II X4 965 is 64-bit (i'm pretty sure), should i install Lubuntu 64bit? Or is 64bit linux not really up to snuff?
[19:14] <mierdoso> ya ves, como tu que no te cambias ni el nick
[19:14] <mierdoso> mierdoso
[19:14] <Gentoo64> meowsus, 64 bit linux is fine
[19:14] <Gentoo64> its good
[19:14] <MustardCU> OnNomNom, press Alt-F2 and type in "nautilus"
[19:14] <bobweaver> OnNomNom:  open terminal and type that in
[19:14] <asir_> tengo los huevos muy gordos
[19:14] <ActionParsnip> meowsus: grab 64bit and you'll be ok
[19:14] <Gentoo64> do you not need nautilus --no-desktop for gnome 3?
[19:14] <yoga> ActionParsnip: I expect stardict should integerate with the gnome nicely.
[19:15] <bobweaver> Huey_:  it is working now ?
[19:15] <_spt_> OnNomNom : read the manual https://help.ubuntu.com/
[19:15] <meowsus> Okay, I'm on it!
[19:15] <huggy-bear> ezrafree: Were you the one with the bash question? I think I have it:
[19:15] <meowsus> Thanks guys
[19:15] <huggy-bear> ezrafree: http://paste.debian.net/139824/
[19:15] <ActionParsnip> yoga: i use neither so can't really comment. Are there bugs reported?
[19:16] <p1ruj3> anyone know how to statically assign bus for a usb device?
[19:16] <Huey_> bobweaver: still not--now selecting gnome-classic (no effects)  dones't start any panel or wm.    I guess I have to start them from my gnome-session-properties?
[19:17] <ActionParsnip> p1ruj3: why would you want to? It all goes to the same usb subsystem
[19:17] <Gentoo64> p1ruj3, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/udev-rules-and-usb-bus-626900/
[19:17] <bobweaver> Huey_:  this is with gdm ?
[19:17] <yoga> ActionParsnip: where do I check the bugs report?
[19:17] <sysadm_> org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [Could not detect registered XULRunner to use]
[19:17] <sysadm_> help me
[19:18] <Huey_> bobweaver: yes
[19:18] <Gentoo64> p1ruj3, not sure if thats what your after actually
[19:18] <p1ruj3> ActionParsnip usb to usb file transfer pulling 12 mbit, want to see if I can move one device to a seperate bus and have that transfer speed be more around 20-24
[19:18] <Ragnarock> help me to
[19:18] <Ragnarock> drive ubuntu nvidia
[19:18] <Gentoo64> Ragnarock, what do you mean
[19:18] <ActionParsnip> Yoga: run: ubuntu-bug stardict   report your bug. If it already exists you'll see it
[19:19] <bobweaver> Ragnarock:  open termminal and type in gksudo jokey-gtk
[19:19] <sysadm_> driver nvidia just download at nvidia website
[19:19] <Gentoo64> it should be in the driver bit in ubuntu
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> gksudo jockey-gtk
[19:19] <ActionParsnip> sysadm_: why?
[19:20] <bobweaver> thhanks ActionParsnip my spelliing is real bad :>)
[19:20] <Gentoo64> no need to be installing stuff manually
[19:20] <p1ruj3> ActionParsnip right? in theory it's sharing bandwidth between those devices on the same bus/hub
[19:21] <devinus> does anybody know of a free ebook on beginning unix/linux i can link to a friend?
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> sysadm_: the packages not only mean users don't need to kill X to install but they are also updated as the packages are updated too
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> !manual
[19:21] <bobweaver> devinus:  the c programs bible jk
[19:21] <ActionParsnip> sysadm_: so why use the nvidia site?
[19:22] <sysadm_> what card u used
[19:22] <tripelb> infinii, hi. doesnt matter if you are not here.I asked today in #macosx  The Mac-boys told me that the SD boot wont work. And treated me like an idiot too. I'm going to go double-check with the genius bar.
[19:22] <sysadm_> nvidia nvs 295
[19:22] <bobweaver> devinus:  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[19:22] <splic> Hello, I changed a user's UID from 'System -> Administration -> Users and Groups' and they no longer appear on the login menu, how do I add them back? (On 10.04 LTS)
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> sysadm_: there is even a ppa with the 285 driver which is good for insanely new chips..
[19:23] <ActionParsnip> sysadm_: why use nvidia's site?
[19:23] <Gentoo64> 285 supports 6 series up afaik
[19:24] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip:  what is repo for that ?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> Gentoo64: works on my 6150LE
[19:24] <TorbenBeta> Is the syntax for BashScripting quite similiar to C?
[19:24] <Huey_> bobweaver: starting things by gnome-session-property doesn't quite work (apps don't dock to the panel notification area properly, probably becuase they start before the panel.  How do I creat a proper user-defined session for the dm?
[19:24] <ActionParsnip> bobweaver: xorg edgers updates (less fresh, more stable)
[19:25] <p1ruj3> Huey_ gnome-panel doesn't bring itup?
[19:25] <bobweaver> ActionParsnip:  thanks that is awesome !!!!
[19:25] <ActionParsnip> sysadm_: would you kindly answer my question please?
[19:25] <Huey_> p1ruj3: no, I'm starting the panel and the apps from gnome-session-properties
[19:26] <TorbenBeta> !patience
[19:27] <bobweaver> Huey_:  it is crazy that hte up and down button dont work I would 100% look into that .
[19:27] <bobweaver> the not hte *
[19:27] <yoga> ActionParsnip: I just filled a bug report for stardict does not run in the panel.
[19:27] <sysadm_> i send file to u
[19:27] <tomasm-> anyone know why my laptop running on a wireless connection would take up every IP address in a network? its just using the default dhcp from the firewall
[19:27] <rhin0> not sure why -- my ssd is showing half capacity (installed xubuntu 11.10) ... what could be the reason for an ssd showing 1/2 capacity ... could it be deteriorating?  I have done multiple multiple installs onto it
[19:27] <guntbert> TorbenBeta: please see tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[19:28] <Gentoo64> rhin0, :s
[19:28] <rhin0> yes Gentoo64
[19:28] <Gentoo64> rhin0, partitions?
[19:28] <high-rez> I'm attempting to do a complex ip ruleset for ipv6.  E.g. "ip rule add from a.b.c.d/16 and not to a.b.c.d/16 and not to e.f.g.h/16 table providera" --- anyone know if this is possible ?
[19:28] <Gentoo64> it wouldnt decrease in capacity
[19:28] <ActionParsnip> sysadm_: can you pastebin it instead please. I have no idea where it is on my filesystem as I'm on my phone
[19:28] <rhin0> i/m going to check -- for some reason can't even boot my usb key install now
[19:28] <rhin0> ok
[19:28] <TorbenBeta> guntbert, why?
[19:28] <rhin0> i just thought if it's getting sectors marked bad ... it'd start decreaeing insideze
[19:28] <Gentoo64> high-rez, ask in #ipv6 probbaly
[19:29] <guntbert> TorbenBeta: you were asking about bash scripting
[19:29] <ActionParsnip> Yoga: coolies. Bug reports get things fixed
[19:29] <TorbenBeta> guntbert, thank you then.
[19:29] <Gentoo64> rhin0, half the size would be something seriously bad lol
[19:29] <Gentoo64> i reckon you just partitioned it
[19:30] <rhin0> ok gotcha
[19:30] <rhin0> I think so too
[19:30] <rhin0> dunno how
[19:30] <Gentoo64> how are you checking? fdisk -l?
[19:30] <rhin0> was using hdparm
[19:30] <rhin0> can't see
[19:30] <rhin0> how to see the max capacity of a drive
[19:30] <Gentoo64> try gparted
[19:30] <Gentoo64> itll be clear
[19:30] <rhin0> thanks
[19:31] <rhin0> ilove my ssd
[19:31] <sysadm_> org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [Could not detect registered XULRunner to use]
[19:31] <sysadm_> who can help me
[19:31] <rhin0> i want it to be as robust  ad h/d
[19:31] <tolmun> any app all in one for hardware issue detection/stres-test, need to find why machin is overheated at some point, same on linux32/64 and  windoza. Playnig with cpuburn,memtst,sensors logs . ..  with no luck, nothing wrong.
[19:31] <plurrtard> What's the kernel name for 11.10?
[19:31] <bobweaver> Huey_:  run sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm &     <-- any errors in the 1st terminal >?
[19:31] <Gentoo64> rhin0, ive had mine for ages its been good
[19:31] <Gentoo64> plurrtard, 3
[19:31] <bobweaver> plurrtard:  uname -a
[19:31] <quick-> wine not working on 11.10 . Pls help
[19:31] <Gentoo64> quick-, what happens
[19:31] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[19:32] <diverdude> anybody knows what "Entf.-Kilometer" means?
[19:32] <ibqn> my laptop does not boot, it says mount: mounting /dev/ .... failed, I booted form the live cd and was able to mount the main partition, how to repair it?
[19:32] <rhin0> gparted shows "ext4" and "extended"
[19:32] <rhin0> whats "extended"
[19:32] <quick-> when i open program such as ultrasurf it just doesnt shows anything
[19:32] <quick-> Gentoo64:  when i open program such as ultrasurf it just doesnt shows anything
[19:32] <Gentoo64> rhin0, another partition. it should say at tope right the size of the disk
[19:32] <helo> why is 'mission-control' using 100% cpu?
[19:33] <ibqn> how to copy my home folder to another external hard drive, It says I have no permissions!
[19:33] <rhin0> why is there an "extended"
[19:33] <Gentoo64> quick-, try it from terminal. i dont use wine but i think its just "wine program"
[19:33] <bobweaver> ibqn:  use sudo
[19:33] <ibqn> bobweaver, what is the password on the live cd?
[19:33] <bobweaver> ibqn:  there is none
[19:33] <bobweaver> I thought
[19:33] <rhin0> whats "extended" for
[19:33] <Gentoo64> rhin0, prob swap
[19:34] <Gentoo64> how big is it?
[19:34] <quick-> Gentoo64:  used terminal also , it gives "fixme:toolhelp:CreateToolhelp32Snapshot Unimplemented: heap list snapshot" and returns the prompt
[19:34] <rhin0> not sure why -- my ssd is showing half capacity (installed xubuntu 11.10) ... what could be the reason for an ssd showing 1/2 capacity ... could it be deteriorating?  I have done multiple multiple installs onto it
[19:34] <rhin0> oops
[19:34] <rhin0> cut buffer
[19:34] <Gentoo64> quick-, im not sure. have you tried reinstalling wine?
[19:34] <rhin0> dev/sda1   *        2048    68747868    34372910+  83  Linux  ---------------   /dev/sda2        68749310   125044735    28147713    5  Extended
[19:34] <sysadm_> org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [Could not detect registered XULRunner to use] what should i do
[19:34] <quick-> Gentoo64:  yup
[19:34] <rhin0> so its all there just htat its base and "extended"
[19:34] <Gentoo64> rhin0, yeah looks like the swap partition
[19:34] <rhin0> ok
[19:34] <rhin0> so all is ok
[19:34] <Gentoo64> rhin0, yea. no idea why itd be half the size of your ssd.
[19:35] <Gentoo64> how big is the ssd?
[19:35] <Gentoo64> 60gb?
[19:36] <Gentoo64> rhin0, tbh id clean install and repartition. you dont want swap on ssd (ideally) and certainly not if its taking half the space
[19:36] <rhin0> ok
[19:36] <rhin0> 60gb correct
[19:37] <Gentoo64> how much ram?
[19:37] <rhin0> 4gb
[19:37] <rhin0> this install is whack/bunk will re-
[19:37] <Gentoo64> rhin0, i have a 60gb ssd and 4gb ram too
[19:37] <rhin0> dunno why its like this
[19:37] <Gentoo64> i use just a big 60gb / partition nothing else
[19:37] <Gentoo64> no swap etc
[19:37]  * rhin0 has 3 processors Oo
[19:38] <Gentoo64> maybe you just have a triple core cpu?
[19:40] <Tomay> Why is compiz cube desktop is not working for me ?
[19:40] <OmNomNom> yay!!!
[19:41] <OmNomNom> i am officially less of a ubuntu noob
[19:41] <OmNomNom> haha
[19:41] <Gentoo64> you spelt your name right
[19:41] <Gentoo64> :)
[19:41] <OmNomNom> lol
[19:41] <OmNomNom> i finally got Konversation working
[19:41] <OmNomNom> i am so proud of myself
[19:41] <OmNomNom> ROFL
[19:41] <licastb> dont be!
[19:41] <Gentoo64> aw
[19:41] <Gentoo64> inb4 irssi comments
[19:42]  * OmNomNom slaps licastb with the sarcasm trout
[19:42] <OmNomNom> :P
[19:42] <OmNomNom> oh man am i ever happy :P
[19:43] <huxley> If I have a choice between two proprietary drivers: AMD ATI and AMD ATI Radeon (post-update) should I try the post-update one or the original? aka what does post-update mean, exactly? =P
[19:43] <helo> /leave/leave
[19:43] <helo> heh
[19:43] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: screenshot of the best in action?
[19:43] <OmNomNom> Gentoo64: say what?
[19:43] <Gentoo64> dw
[19:43] <OmNomNom> haha
[19:43] <Gentoo64> huxley: try the post update
[19:44] <huxley> Gentoo64: okay thanks
[19:44] <Edisto> whatever happened to that game huxley?
[19:44] <ibqn> people do you have an idea how to repair my laptop, after a power interruption ubuntu is not able to start, showing me a mount failere, but hard drive mounts from a live cd
[19:44] <huxley> ibqn: you sure its the HD
[19:44] <Gentoo64> ibqn: does the kernel start?
[19:45] <Gentoo64> mount ro?
[19:45] <huxley> the hardware itself i mean
[19:45] <OmNomNom> now, if i want to increase the file allocation of Ubuntu, do i have to uninstall and create a partition?
[19:45] <Gentoo64> panic
[19:45] <ibqn> huxley, I get this http://kuniganotas.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/error-on-mounting-dev-on-rootdev/
[19:45] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: what do you mean
[19:45] <OmNomNom> or just remove and reinstall with a bigger allocation size on c:
[19:45] <OmNomNom> when i installed, it asked me the allocation size
[19:45] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: paste (in a site) fdisk -l
[19:45] <OmNomNom> for Ubuntu, by default it was set at 18gb
[19:45] <huxley> OmNomNom: just use parted magic live cd and resize
[19:46] <huxley> and cross ur fingers
[19:46] <huxley> haha
[19:46] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: afaik ubuntus auto partitioner makes a / /home and swap
[19:46] <OmNomNom> sorry you'll have to dumb it down for me
[19:46] <OmNomNom> i have no clue what you're saying
[19:46] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: do you dual boot on that drive?
[19:47] <OmNomNom> yes, windows 7 and Wubi
[19:47] <OmNomNom> thats why i got Wubi
[19:47] <Gentoo64> and want to share a partition for data?
[19:47] <ibqn> Gentoo64, see the link above, I end up with exactly the same error messages
[19:47] <Gentoo64> hmm no idea about wubi
[19:47] <OmNomNom> Wubi is using 18gb of C:/
[19:47] <OmNomNom> by default
[19:47] <OmNomNom> and i didnt increase that sizze
[19:47] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: i would delete ubuntu and install it to another partition (that you can make with gparted)
[19:47] <huxley> Gentoo64: nothing wrong with wubi
[19:47] <Gentoo64> wubi is messy
[19:48] <OmNomNom> Wubi is nice
[19:48] <jrwr> but messy
[19:48] <Gentoo64> at least that way youll have ubuntu on ext4 and seperated
[19:48] <huxley> Gentoo64: if he wants to use wubi, let him use wubi =P
[19:48] <OmNomNom> well isnt wubi the full ubuntu?
[19:48] <Gentoo64> yeah
[19:48] <OmNomNom> ok, but the thing is its why i got it, so i can dual boot
[19:48] <huxley> OmNomNom: yeah. optimally you want ubuntu in its own partition for stability
[19:49] <OmNomNom> so anyone can help me with partition
[19:49] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: if you make a new partition and install ubuntu to it, ubuntu will ovewrite the bootloader anyway
[19:49] <huxley> OmNomNom: sure. You can also dual boot easily just by burning the image file to a dvd, installing.. it'll set up GRUB automatically
[19:49] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: so youll still dual boot
[19:49] <huxley> Gentoo64: he wants to expand the virtual partition that wubi made in windows
[19:49] <OmNomNom> yes...
[19:49] <OmNomNom> thats it
[19:49] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: first "delete" ubuntu, then make free space after the windows partition
[19:50] <Gentoo64> oh ok
[19:50] <Gentoo64> no idea about wubi
[19:50] <meowsus> Can i install LXDE as a session to be launched instead of Ubuntu? Or is that just a bad idea
[19:50] <meowsus> Sorry, instead of Gnome*
[19:50] <Polah> meowsus, yes you can.
[19:50] <Gentoo64> meowsus: i think lxde-desktop
[19:50] <bobweaver> well off to hackerspace tty all later thanks and have a good one :>)
[19:50] <OmNomNom> so i have two options, partition c: for 100gb or so, and then install Ubuntu
[19:50] <Gentoo64> im prob wrong
[19:50] <yoga> I apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, am I using Unity?
[19:50] <OmNomNom> so if bootloader is overridden, it will ask for which OS to load am i correct?
[19:51] <vncxuser> How an I enable remote sharing from terminal in ubuntu 11.10?
[19:51] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: yeah ubuntus grub will detect windows
[19:51] <vncxuser> how can I*
[19:51] <huxley> OmNomNom: before we went off and tried to give you all this advice -- your original intent was to expand the virtual partition right
[19:51] <OmNomNom> well, yes, i am sorry for abruptly leaving, i had accidentally switched off my adapter
[19:51] <OmNomNom> by pressding f2
[19:51] <OmNomNom> pressing*
[19:51] <meowsus> I know when you do, say kubuntu-desktop, it installs all the default KDE applications. As i understand it LXDE doesn't have it's own "branded" programs like Gnome and KDE, but will it still install a bunch of programs ontop of what i already have
[19:51] <meowsus> ?
[19:51] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: go into gparted and shrink the windows partition to whatever you want, then format the rest of the space as ext4
[19:52] <Makita420> ы
[19:52] <Gentoo64> meowsus: probably the light lxde ones
[19:52] <huxley> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_resize_the_virtual_disks.3F
[19:52] <OmNomNom> i do this from windows i presume
[19:52] <Gentoo64> meowsus: itll always end up being a bit of a mess with lots of desktops
[19:52] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: no from the uubntu livec
[19:52] <Gentoo64> d
[19:52] <OmNomNom> and also it will be a completely separate partition from C:/
[19:52] <OmNomNom> ?
[19:52] <meowsus> Gentoo64, that's what I was thinking too... Hmm....
[19:52] <Makita420> hi america!
[19:53] <meowsus> I'll just take the plunge and go Lubuntu
[19:53] <Gentoo64> OmNomNom: yes
[19:53] <hwilde> OmNomNom, pm
[19:53] <guntbert> !ot | Makita420
[19:53] <huxley> OmNomNom: check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_resize_the_virtual_disks.3F
[19:53] <huxley> !wubi | OmNomNom
[19:53] <Gentoo64> meowsus: you can install plain xubuntu if you dont want all the mess
[19:53] <meowsus> Gentoo64, what do you mean? is xubuntu-desktop way lighter than, say, kubuntu-desktop?
[19:54] <Gentoo64> meowsus: yes
[19:54] <meowsus> I mean... speaking of the installation of extra programs
[19:54] <genii-around> I'm not sure "safe" should be in the same sentence as "wubi"
[19:54] <Gentoo64> meowsus: kde installs more programs than anything else
[19:54] <meowsus> Right
[19:54] <Gentoo64> then gnome then xfce
[19:54] <milanoa> brbra
[19:54] <Gentoo64> meowsus: what are you trying to achieve? a desktop without much by default?
[19:55]  * flooding_urinal is away: Crabwalking a triathalon
[19:55] <meowsus> Gentoo64, yeah, I guess so. I'm just trying to pick a good DE for the new machine. I don't know if I'll like Lubuntu the best, or if i should go Xubuntu. Like we were saying, i don't want the overhead of ubuntu or kubuntu.
[19:56] <Gentoo64> meowsus: both x and lxde are light
[19:56] <Gentoo64> i personally find xfce too bloated
[19:56] <Gentoo64> and messy
[19:56] <meowsus> Gentoo64, but you say you use Openbox, are you running it as a session ontop of ubuntu?
[19:57] <Gentoo64> no
[19:57] <Gentoo64> theres a distro called crunchbang
[19:57] <Gentoo64> i thin kthats ubuntu
[19:57] <meowsus> Gentoo64, my buddy brian uses it
[19:57] <Gentoo64> but you wouldnt see a difference between pure openbox and lxde
[19:58] <meowsus> Definitely debian based
[19:58] <meowsus> alright, i'm going to stop thinking about it and install lubuntu
[19:58] <meowsus> Thanks for your help
[19:58] <Gentoo64> ok
[19:59] <nailson> did someone try to download aptana 3 today?
[20:00] <seanp2k> I have virtualbox-40 installed and I have the .deb for virtualbox-41, but `dpkg -i` says I can't install it because it conflicts.  I don't want to uninstall virtualbox-40 first and lose all my  settings.  How can I tell dpkg that I want to "upgrade" virtualbox-40 to virtualbox-41 using [deb] ?
[20:00] <seanp2k> exact `dpkg -i` output http://pastebin.com/ZLuCHZT2
[20:00] <Gentoo64> seanp2k: you wont lose the settings
[20:00] <Gentoo64> seanp2k: theyre in the home folder
[20:00] <Gentoo64> just uninstall it
[20:00] <seanp2k> Gentoo64: so I need to uninstall virtualbox-40 first?
[20:00] <splic> Is it possible to user autofs to create a mount point in /?
[20:00] <Gentoo64> seanp2k: apparently
[20:00] <seanp2k> Gentoo64: k, I was thinking that.  Will try, thanks
[20:01] <klync> i created a new user by manually writing /etc/{passwd,shadow} and unity doesn't like it: where my username should be at the top-right corner, it says [invalid UTF-8], and the user doesn't show up in the Users control panel
[20:02] <Gentoo64> klync: why didnt you do it the normal way?
[20:02] <klync> Gentoo64: that *is* the normal way, for POSIX
[20:03] <eiriksvin> i keep having issues with keyring not unlocking when I  auto-login how do I fix that?
[20:03] <Gentoo64> klync: just type as root: adduser
[20:03] <klync> Gentoo64: how about `grep klync /mnt/oldsys/etc/passwd >>/etc/passwd`
[20:03] <Gentoo64> klync: adduser and useradd is the normal way
[20:03] <Gentoo64> for linux and bsd
[20:05] <Pici> klync: that still should JustWork™. Are you sure that you entered it in the proper format?
[20:06] <bibib0y> test
[20:06] <klync> Pici: it's the right format, but apparently the wrong encoding; i tried re-typing the line using vi but that didn't work ... i could remove and re-add the user, but that'd be a pain and i'd like to know how to fix this anyway. character encoding problems are such a pain
[20:08] <waza-ari> hey all. i know i can define ssh hosts in ~/.ssh/config. Can i somehow do sth like: for every hosts in domain xyz.xy (so *.xyz.xy) use username xyz?
[20:09] <klync> Pici: also, i should mention that i *can* login and everything (at term or lightdm) ; it's just the graphical desktop tools that have a problem reading my entry in the file
[20:09] <hwilde> waza-ari,   Host *.xyz.zy       (newline)    User xyz
[20:10] <javier__> hi. I have to format my HDD (where I share windows and ubuntu) and reinstall both OS. But I've found I have bad sectors on the HDD (specially,I believe, in windows part). I want to do something like scan, mark (or repair if so is possible) bad sectors not to use them again. How could I do this? thanks!
[20:10] <waza-ari> hwilde: that easy? hm... thanks :)
[20:10] <ghostnik11> i am trying to install java Recommended Version 6 Update 29, but the thing is they show no x86 install file, can i use an x64 ?
[20:11] <ghostnik11> i can post link, actually link is:http://java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
[20:11] <hwilde> waza-ari, man 5 ssh_config
[20:12] <helo> how do i reduce the size of my mouse cursor in xorg? (not using unity/gnome)
[20:12] <Pici> klync: I'm having a hard time finding evidence on Linux (I found something for BSD) that /etc/passwd needs to be an ASCII file.
[20:12] <helo> after installing 11.10 it's massive
[20:12] <Gentoo64> helo: hold on
[20:12]  * helo grabs onto Gentoo64's 4
[20:13] <waza-ari> hwilde: indeed that easy. will try tomorrow when back at work. thanks
[20:13] <Gentoo64> helo in gtkrc-2.0
[20:13] <Gentoo64> gtk-cursor-theme-size=
[20:13] <hwilde> waza-ari, yesh you can specify keys and all kinds of stuff.   I have hundreds of lines in my config
[20:13] <helo> awesome, thanks :D
[20:13] <Gentoo64> helo: what de are you using?
[20:14] <Pici> klync: http://serverfault.com/questions/197665/using-utf-8-in-the-etc-passwd-file-any-known-issues seems to suggest that the GECOS (realname) will allow UTF-8, but not necessarily the username field.
[20:14] <helo> fluxbox
[20:14] <klync> Pici: I don't think it does .... I haven't looked with hexdump (not on that computer atm), but i think what's happening is that the chars are two bytes wide except on the line I added via ">>" ... that's why i tried using vi to re-type the line and delete the orig, but that didn't solve it
[20:14] <klync> Pici: interesting
[20:14] <Gentoo64> helo: in openbox my gtk-cursor-theme-size=0
[20:14] <Gentoo64> helo: so not sure how big the numbers make it, 0 is obviously default
[20:14] <helo> cool
[20:15] <dddbmt> allright. I've just installed 10.04 (to get gnome2) on my Asus n43s. I believe that I need a driver or my gfx card, since I can only run 1024*768. Any suggestions?
[20:15] <dc5ala> ghostnik11, there are 4 linux downloads, 2 of those are 64 bit, so the other 2 are probably 32
[20:16] <ghostnik11> dc5ala: thanks i will download the self extracting bin and install via terminal
[20:16] <Gentoo64> helo: dpaste.com/640980/
[20:16] <axisys> how do I install sun java ?
[20:16] <Gentoo64> thats what mine looks like
[20:16] <axisys> there is no sun-java6-jre pkg any more
[20:16] <klync> Pici: ok, i think the easiest answer might be to delete the user and re-add using the util. now that i read that thread you linked to, i remember i also tried `usermod -c klync,,,` to no avail
[20:17] <joshfinnie> I am looking to augment my Ubuntu installation with a lightweight desktop. All I really need is Terminal (for vim) and firefox for website viewing and debugging. Any suggestions?
[20:17] <axisys> i already have done the add-repository for the partner to install sun java
[20:17] <Pici> klync: I agree
[20:17] <dddbmt> .... my asus have a geforce gt550m (cuda 1gb). What should I do to get this working properly?
[20:17] <dc5ala> ghostnik11, any specific reason you need to do that and not use openjdk from repository?
[20:17] <Gentoo64> dddbmt: install the nvidia drivers
[20:17] <choman> looking for liveCD help
[20:18] <Gentoo64> choman: ask
[20:18] <mrdeb> ok go ahead choman
[20:18] <Mion> dddbmt: install the closed source drivers
[20:18] <Mion> dddbmt: using aptitude
[20:18] <javier__> Hi! how can I make a low level fotmat of my hard drive? (I believe that will mark bad sectors and will prepare it to work better)?
[20:19] <dddbmt> Mion, I haven't done that before. Could you tell me more, or maybe give me a link?
[20:19] <smw> joshfinnie, if you find one, let me know
[20:19] <ghostnik11> dc5ala: well its not for me its for someone else as he is trying to get his android device back to stock factory conditions and in order for that to happen, he has to install java or update it to latest version in order to run a SamsungCaptivate-SGHi897-UCKB2-NoRoot-One-Click.jar
[20:19] <Gentoo64> javier__: partedmagic has a load of erase tools
[20:19] <smw> joshfinnie, I just gave up on lxde because it was too buggy. I am right now using kde.
[20:19] <choman> using the "remaster" script  from the ubuntu community forums to generate a liveCD.   Looking to modify unity such that "custom" launchers are there during live sessions (on Unity)
[20:19] <dmorrison42> Does anyone know if there is an svg for this image? Or even just a higher resolution copy. I wanted to use it as my background since I installed 10.11, but I can't find it. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubiquity-slideshow/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/html/view/head:/slideshows/ubuntu/slides/screenshots/welcome.jpg
[20:19] <helo> Gentoo64: awesome, thanks man
[20:19] <ghostnik11> dc5ala: here is link he is following: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1266172
[20:19] <dc5ala> ghostnik11, then just try openjdk, manual installation is not really recommended
[20:20] <Gentoo64> joshfinnie: lxde would be the easiest thing for you
[20:20] <Mion> dddbmt: fist hit on google: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[20:20] <javier__> Gentoo64, so, it would be a good program to make it and reinstall everything afterwords...?
[20:20] <smw> Gentoo64, lxde is too buggy
[20:20] <Gentoo64> smw: how is it
[20:20] <Gentoo64> you cant say that
[20:20] <smw> Gentoo64, it especially has problems with anything involving power management.
[20:20] <Gentoo64> because so is kde, and gnome
[20:20] <smw> Gentoo64, I can't?
[20:20] <smw> Gentoo64, I just gave up on it!
[20:20] <Gentoo64> :)
[20:20] <dddbmt> Mion, System -> Administration -> Hardware drivers does not show anything.
[20:20] <vncxuser> Can someone tell me how I enable remote sharing (VNC with vino) from terminal in ubuntu 11.10?
[20:21] <Mion> dddbmt: old ubuntu?
[20:21] <hwilde> vncxuser, vino-server
[20:21] <ghostnik11> dc5ala: okay but when he clicks on jar file it says: The file SamsungCaptivate-SGHi897-UCKB2-NoRoot-One-Click.jar' is not marked as executable.
[20:21] <joshfinnie> Gentoo64: I will take a look at lxde. thanks
[20:21] <dddbmt> Mion, 10.04 downloaded and installed within the last few hours.
[20:22] <ghostnik11> dc5ala: i guess he has to make it executable first with a: chmod a+x
[20:22] <Gentoo64> joshfinnie: i wouldnt let people put you off. the amount of bugs kde, gnome, unity etc have is unbelievable compared
[20:22] <dc5ala> ghostnik11, yop
[20:22] <Mion> dddbmt: just hiding in a slightly different place then
[20:22] <guntbert> vncxuser: why vnc with CLI?
[20:22] <vncxuser> guntbert: Because I'm not home.. So I'm on the computer via ssh
[20:23] <ghostnik11> dc5ala: okay will tell him to try to cd to where file is then run chmod a+x with "jar file name"
[20:23] <smw> Gentoo64, lxde is awesome. All it needs is 1. working power management (suspend, %left etc) 2. the panel to stop hanging (using up all CPU) and 3. for sound applet to work when started and power is not plugged in (how was this failing?!)
[20:23] <trijntje> Hi all, does anybody know how to contact the ubuntu friendly project? I cant find their e-mail on launchpad or on the wiki. Any suggestions?
[20:23] <helo> anyone happen to know why empathy doesn't honor the theme i set with gtk-theme-switch2?
[20:23] <sskniranjan> ski_  plz see my msg in pm
[20:23] <OmNomNom> god Faceoff is such a cheesy movie
[20:23] <Gentoo64> smw: i basically use lxde (openbox, lxpanel and pcmanfm) and never had a single issue at all
[20:23] <guntbert> vncxuser: ah, understood  - I guess you have got a good answer already
[20:24] <smw> Gentoo64, on a laptop?
[20:24] <Gentoo64> its the only rock solid desktop ive ever used
[20:24] <smw> Gentoo64, and you never had the panel hang?
[20:24] <Gentoo64> nope
[20:24] <Gentoo64> but
[20:24] <dc5ala> ghostnik11, he can also do that via gui, right click properties
[20:24] <Gentoo64> it might be different versions ec
[20:24] <eiriksvin> hey all, I'm looking for a dock that shows the active apps a bit better than Unity
[20:24] <grkblood> whenever i try to use switcheroo to change to my discrete gpu with this command `echo DIS > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch` i get the error vga_switcheroo: client 0 refused switch in my syslog, how do i switch cards?
[20:24] <ghostnik11> dc5ala: he can, how?
[20:24] <smw> Gentoo64, and you used it on a laptop?
[20:24] <dddbmt> Mion, not sure what you mean? You think this would be the right solution: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-nvidia-drivers-manually-on-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-lynx.html ?
[20:24] <Gentoo64> no
[20:24] <Gentoo64> desktop
[20:25] <dc5ala> ghostnik11, on pemissions tab there is a checkbox to mark it as executable
[20:25] <Gentoo64> smw: im not sure about the power management... i disable it all
[20:25] <smw> Gentoo64, ok, makes sense. It would probably be much more stable on a desktop
[20:25] <Mion> dddbmt: _never_ install the driver manuallty
[20:25] <smw> Gentoo64, the panel hangs are rare enough
[20:25] <Mion> manually*
[20:25] <ghostnik11> dc5ala: cool will tell him that now
[20:25] <joshfinnie> Gentoo64: smw: I am just going to do this… http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde Bad idea?
[20:25] <p1ruj3> anyone know what the next LTS version is going to be?
[20:25] <Mion> dddbmt: it just causes a mess on your system
[20:25] <OmNomNom> can you move icons of programs onto the desktop background on ubuntu?
[20:25] <Gentoo64> joshfinnie: you could so
[20:25] <Gentoo64> do
[20:25] <smw> joshfinnie, probably :-P
[20:26] <smw> joshfinnie, why do you want a light desktop?
[20:26] <CQ> hello, how do I get into a recover mode when I dont see a grub menu at boot? I tried hitting keys or escape at boot, but no luck, it always goes to the login screen (or tries to...)
[20:26] <joshfinnie> just want something lightweight. using in virtual box for python web development.
[20:26] <Morik> 12.4 is LTS 5 years
[20:26] <Gentoo64> he only wants firefox and a terminal
[20:26] <choman> @p1ruj3: 12.04
[20:26] <klync> Mion, dddbmt: i didn't have a problem; just had to blacklist nouveau and add a line to my grub.conf .... i know i'll have to re-run the installer when i update the kernel, but it's worth it imho.
[20:26] <smw> Gentoo64, on a laptop lxde just does not work.
[20:26] <trijntje> OmNomNom: yes, right  click, new starter, fill in the command you want to run
[20:26] <eiriksvin> I'm really thinking about going back to 11.04 just to get the Classic back... this Unity is making me grr it's too much clicking around to get to what I want, and I really don't like the workspace switcher, no realtime, the icons are too big
[20:26] <dc5ala> ghostnik11, that's just a security thingy for gui, so double clicking does not execute things you may not want to. On command line he don't need that: "java -jar blabla.jar" will execute it too
[20:27] <eiriksvin> compiz isn't working grr
[20:27] <Mion> klync: it messes with libgl, and it's a reall mess at uninstall/upgrade
[20:27] <grkblood> is there any room that focuses on graphics? preferably hybrid graphics?
[20:27] <TrevorBradley> Hey folks, is there a way to tell drupal to ignore the cache for the loading of a single page?  I know I can flush my entire cache, but that's not what I'm looking for.
[20:27] <eiriksvin> grkblood like Blender 3D?
[20:27] <dddbmt> klync, should I try to download from nvidia website? http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-285.05.09-driver.html
[20:27] <Mion> dddbmt: NO
[20:28] <smw> Gentoo64, I am now thinking of the great joomla vs wordpress debate. Wordpress has very few features which makes me want something better and joomla has too many all enabled by default.
[20:28] <grkblood> eiriksvin, i have no idea what that is, i jsut want to swtich gpus
[20:28] <klync> Mion: hm, well on my old system it did replace x's libgl.so or something like that ... wasn't really a problem tho. imho it's worth it
[20:28] <Mion> klync: it is a BIG problem if you later want to use the free driver as an example
[20:28] <eiriksvin> grkblood idk then
[20:28] <klync> dddbmt: i think so ... but be prepared to lose your graphical environment
[20:28] <Mion> klync: or eg switch to an amd card
[20:29] <eiriksvin> is there a dock that shows the active apps a bit better than Unity
[20:29] <klync> Mion: yeah, but nvidia makes good drivers for their hw, that's why i bought an nvidia card.... i love free software, but i understand why video hardware drivers would need to keep their sw interfaces closed
[20:29] <racho> Mion, though the ati card shouldn't be the latest in the line
[20:29] <OmNomNom> Gentoo64: any way i can drag icons onto the desktop?
[20:29] <grkblood> Mion, i see you talking about video cards, do you knwo how to switch  hybriud graphics?
[20:29] <eiriksvin> will Gnome-Shell give me classic back?
[20:29] <Mion> grkblood: depends on what it is
[20:29] <TrevorBradley> (looking at cacheexclude module now)
[20:30] <choman> ok, the livecd question is out there.  unfortunately I need to pop smoke for a bit.  I will be back later tonight.  Hopefully that will give everyone enough time to mull it over
[20:30] <grkblood> Mion, whenever i try to use switcheroo to change to my discrete gpu with this command `echo DIS > /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/switch` i get the error vga_switcheroo: client 0 refused switch in my syslog, how do i switch cards?
[20:30] <Mion> grkblood: vga_switcharoo for amd, bumblebee(buggy) for nvidia
[20:30] <dddbmt> Mion, then I am not quite sure what I should do now? any suggestions?
[20:30] <racho> eiriksvin, no gnome-shell is *not* gnome classic
[20:30] <ghostnik11> dc5ala: thanks for that tip, didn't know "java" command would also execute will make note of that for future use
[20:31] <enigma456> hello
[20:31] <Morik> Is there any way I can shrink the text in empathy?
[20:31] <smw> eiriksvin, there is no way to get old gnome back except downgrade (upgrade?) to 11.04
[20:31] <enigma456> I got ubuntu, sound doesn't work
[20:31] <enigma456> I got some sony vaio laptop here, tried most of the tricks but still no luck
[20:31] <enigma456> any ideas ?
[20:32] <eiriksvin> I would love to support Ubuntu but wtf are they thinking with this? It's more like UNbuntu
[20:32] <OmNomNom> can anyone help me please, i have files on my C drive (where ubuntu is installed) and i am trying to access them through ubuntu, however the files are in windows
[20:32] <enigma456> any person can help me about this
[20:33] <vncxuser> guntbert: I tried hwilde's suggestion but I do not know the excact way on how to start it is the problem.
[20:33] <OmNomNom> i pressed alt + f2 and typed in nautilus and got three results and i am not what to do
[20:33] <enigma456> ubuntu sound problem for sony vaoi vpcej   is takes ages to solve this
[20:33] <smw> eiriksvin, I have no idea. Ubuntu was so great... It kills me what they have done to it :-(
[20:33] <enigma456> any have ideas
[20:34] <tripelb> OmNomNom, you can do it in gui
[20:34] <Tech-1> -``-
[20:34] <zmbmartin> can someone do me a favor with 64 bit flash installed check if they can use the demo at uploadify.com?
[20:34]  * `cory is hungry
[20:35] <eiriksvin> I think they are trying to get more people to jump on the band wagon, but after the Natty bomb they should have known it was a NO NO
[20:35] <OmNomNom> tripelb: how exactly please, i just typed in nautilus and it opened a home box, but when i try to search i dont know if it is searching the right place
[20:35] <zmbmartin> I am not able to use uploadify anymore and I am assuming that it is related to flash player being upgraded recently
[20:35] <smw> eiriksvin, I am back to kde since gnome 2 is pretty much dead. I could move to an older ubuntu or a new distro with gnome2, but upstream is not supporting it anymore.
[20:35] <pooltable> help running out of room on hard drive but have room on ext hard drive what do i new to do to move some thing there ???
[20:35] <jrwr> you can move it by hand and symlink some of it
[20:35] <jrwr> if the location is important
[20:36] <jrwr> or even move it and move it to a location
[20:36] <jrwr> like /home
[20:36] <guntbert> vncxuser: the vino server obviously is managed through GUI :-(, do you have an X server on the machine you are currently using? (in other words is it a linux machine?)
[20:36] <w30> OmNomNom, you need a ntfs file system reader, install ntfs-3g
[20:36] <pooltable> jrwr how do i symlike?
[20:36] <jrwr> its a command like option
[20:36] <Mion> pooltable: man ln
[20:37] <vncxuser> guntbert: Yes. It is.
[20:37] <jrwr> yep
[20:37] <smw> eiriksvin, this is not only ubuntu's fault unfortunately.
[20:37] <eiriksvin> yeah, i know
[20:37] <OmNomNom> w30: its already installed
[20:37] <vncxuser> guntbert: It's asking for a paramete for --display but I don't know exactly what to put in for that.
[20:37] <Mion> don't symlink to externals btw
[20:37] <Mion> it just becomes a mess fast
[20:38] <jrwr> eiriksvin, Ive moved on to XFCE with Xubuntu
[20:38] <enigma456> got bit a problem ... sound is dosn't work  at my sony vaoi  os ubuntu 10'10
[20:38] <vncxuser> guntbert: --display=:0.0             <---- That will not start the server. (So obviously i have to try some other parameter value othat than :0.0)
[20:38] <smw> jrwr, I didn't like xfce a couple months ago. I think I should try it again.
[20:38] <guntbert> vncxuser: very good, then you probably don't need the vnc thing anyway, just connect with ssh -X user@host, that will display any GUI app on your current screen
[20:38] <OmNomNom> W30: ntfs-3g is already installed
[20:38] <OmNomNom> what do i do?
[20:38] <enigma456> i did a few popular thing with terminal but still nothing
[20:39] <w30> OmNomNom, If you installed Linux, not wubi, on a different partition you have to mount the C drive
[20:39] <jrwr> smw, its alot like Gnome2 but more supported
[20:39] <smw> jrwr, kde is not half bad once you spend an hour disabling every feature you can.
[20:39] <eiriksvin> smw it's just disappointing to see such a good OS go down the tubes, if your going to offer Unity, make it a seperate OS instead of throwing away what works, was fast, and awesome
[20:39] <smw> jrwr, not enough like gnome2 :-P
[20:39] <vncxuser> guntbert: Even in putty>
[20:39] <OmNomNom> W30: I installed Wubi on the C Drive, the same as my windows.
[20:39] <jrwr> smw, lol, thats what I had to do when i tried KDE, its Tasks system is kinda... retarded
[20:39] <smw> eiriksvin, I agree. It should have been a not enabled by default option.
[20:40] <guntbert> vncxuser: putty on linux or putty on windows?
[20:40] <vncxuser> guntbert: Windows.
[20:40] <enigma456> anyone got idea how to bring sound into vaio ? I mean like which module name I need to use or maybe I need to recompile kernel ? The laptop model is vpcej
[20:40] <smw> jrwr, I knew kde when I moved back to it so I knew what to get rid of :-)
[20:40] <guntbert> vncxuser: I thought you said your current machine is linux?
[20:40] <NUllZer0> hi, I have a question about a basic script I am putting together in bash
[20:40] <NUllZer0> can someone help?
[20:40] <w30> OmNomNom, I have never used wubi, maybe a wubi user will pipe up *sorry*
[20:40] <zatan> Hi, my nautilus home folder , has gone from unity launcher how can I get back? i tried to run from shell but its opening as FILE
[20:40] <NUllZer0> egrep -i 'interface Serial|interface FastEthernet' $f | awk '{ print $2 }'
[20:40] <smw> jrwr, I have ubuntu-desktop, kubuntu-desktop, and lubuntu-desktop installed on my machine.
[20:41] <smw> jrwr, time to install xubuntu-desktop :-D
[20:41] <guntbert> NUllZer0: #bash is probably better suited
[20:41] <jrwr> smw, im running a S10e netbook, XFCE serves me well
[20:41] <NUllZer0> basically I want to take each line of output and use it in a configuration file
[20:41] <NUllZer0> guntbert, thanks :)
[20:41] <OmNomNom> W30: will i need to get a UnbuntuOne account and sync files or share my folders in windows
[20:42] <vncxserv-user> OMG, freaken windows IE cxrashed on me -.-
[20:42] <smw> jrwr, yay. I will now have 4 distros installed :-P
[20:42] <mrdeb> which one
[20:42] <vncxserv-user> I gonna have to go home and turn the stupid server back on in gui -.-
[20:42] <tripelb>   OmNomNom I am not sure. I never typed in nautilus, I just went to Places and Computer and saw the list of partitions. It was easy. - so I'd like to put you on that path.
[20:42] <smw> jrwr, and I also tried pcbsd :-).
[20:42] <p1ruj3> wow next lts isn't here till April next year? Is that typical? every two years?
[20:43] <jrwr> smw, now go install Debian on top of Ubuntu
[20:43] <OmNomNom> tripelb: how do i do that
[20:43] <jrwr> smw, use a Chroot, and it works well
[20:43] <smw> jrwr, I am tempted
[20:43] <p1ruj3> yeah guess it is, 8.04 is the other..
[20:43] <OmNomNom> i mean go to places
[20:43] <arand> p1ruj3: Yes.
[20:43] <jrwr> you can install pretty much any distro that way
[20:43] <mrdeb> how
[20:43] <xorph3289> My wireless won't connect in Xubuntu 11.10 - is this a known bug? The odd thing is, it works fine in Ubuntu 11.10 with presumably an identical kernel/network manager...
[20:43] <eiriksvin> What did they "fix" between 11.04 and 11.10? it seems like they didn't even work on what they had, but started something new based on the old Unity...
[20:44] <smw> jrwr, bsd has come along nicely. It is now about 5-6 years behind linux on the desktop. lol
[20:44] <jrwr> eiriksvin, Unity seems like something for a Netbook, not a Desktop
[20:44] <tripelb> OmNomNom, if you re in the gui, see the  wheel up top left, then applications places system - this is gnome 10.04 I've not used the new unity desktop. - I found the windows partition there under Computer (Think My-Computer)
[20:44] <noname120> Hi
[20:44] <noname120> can someone help me compiling a .tar.gz file ?
[20:44] <smw> jrwr, that is what it was originally made for.
[20:45] <w30> OmNomNom, you could but no need to. Linux should use Windows files just fine in normal uses. Repairing file systems and network transfers might be different.
[20:45] <smw> jrwr, ubuntu netbook edition
[20:45] <smw> !compile > noname120
[20:45] <jrwr> smw, thats where I first saw it
[20:45] <tripelb> OmNomNom, if you re in the gui, see the  wheel up top left, then applications places system - this is gnome 10.04 I've not used the new unity desktop. - I found the windows partition there under Computer (Think My-Computer) w30 this is wht I told him.
[20:45] <jrwr> smw, and it worked well for it, but.. for a desktop, give me Gnome2 anyday
[20:46] <tripelb> !compile > tripleb
[20:46] <OmNomNom> tripelB, you mean the cog right, which is the main menu for shutting down, restarting etc?
[20:47] <smw> jrwr, somehow gnome-shell seems to implement almost everything I hate about mac window management
[20:47] <eiriksvin> jrwr yeah I agree, keep that crap on cellphones and junk... I need functionality and speed. What's the use in owning a desktop if it's all screwy. I put so much into my Linux box, now I don't want to go backwards. I'm hating myself for updating... STUPID!!
[20:47] <smw> jrwr, I dumped gnome shell after an hour because I already had well thought out reasons to hate it.
[20:47] <w30> OmNomNom, look at this: http://www.thetechrepo.com/main-articles/514
[20:47] <jrwr> eiriksvin, you could always... compile Gnome2 or install KDE from repo
[20:47] <jrwr> or XFCE
[20:48] <eiriksvin> whats KDE like?
[20:48] <Reaper> last I saw of it, it was very gui and dressed up
[20:48] <tripelb> OmNomNom, (cog, wheel, gear, buddhist symbol for the 8 ways)... I mean what they called places, then Computer. Do you see any partitions there that might be your windows partition.
[20:48] <Reaper> dunno how well it works tho
[20:48] <smw> eiriksvin, it is what I am using now. It uses too many animations and fades.
[20:48] <feste__> hi! i need some help.  i'm trying to run matlab, and i think i'm not able to access one of the license servers that i need.  anybody have any ideas of what i could do, or know where else i could ask?
[20:48] <mega1> i have ubuntu 10.04 server how do i add a user so he only has access to his own ftp files
[20:48] <jrwr> smw, its Aero on crack
[20:49] <smw> eiriksvin, it also has has to many "features" that are enabled by default.
[20:49] <CQ> how can I set grub to show the menu in a standard install?
[20:49] <jifjaoi3982> mega1: Use chown and chmod commands
[20:49] <smw> eiriksvin, first thing I do is disable compositing. Then I move on to disable every feature that I don't like. For example, by default it saves the programs open and relaunches them on login.
[20:50] <OmNomNom> tripleB: no i do not
[20:50] <OmNomNom> W30: i went to the top left when i was on my desktop and i dont see Places
[20:50] <smw> eiriksvin, I also mess with the taskbar settings
[20:50] <eiriksvin> I just need a friggin dock that's going to show my Active Apps
[20:51] <smw> eiriksvin, lmao
[20:51] <OmNomNom> W30, i minimized all windows and it said Desktop on the top left
[20:51] <OmNomNom> and it didnt show places
[20:51] <smw> eiriksvin, I have sunk way too many hours into figuring out what to do about the lack of gnome2
[20:51] <smw> eiriksvin, kde seems to be working out the best so far
[20:51] <mrdeb> smw do you need advice
[20:51] <mrdeb> ?
[20:51] <smw> mrdeb, sure :-P
[20:52] <jifjaoi3982> I have also switched to KDE. So configurable, the complete opposite of what Gnome 3 and Unity are becoming :)
[20:52] <mrdeb> ok well do you like gnome 2 but what about unity
[20:52] <Gorkyman> whats kubuntu ?
[20:52] <eiriksvin> I might have to go to KDE then uBOOntu
[20:52] <mrdeb> only thing matters really is programs not interface
[20:52] <smw> mrdeb, I don't like unity
[20:52] <tzhuang> clear
[20:52] <w30> eiriksvin, I'm triple booting fedora, ubuntu, and xubuntu looking for a new path forward. Fedora and gnome3 and tweaks is kinda working but xubuntu seems to be better if I can hack the way it works a little
[20:52] <mrdeb> well u can like it
[20:52] <tzhuang> hi what does adding %U to a CLI command do?
[20:52] <smw> mrdeb, the interface is slow, it uses too many fades and animations
[20:52] <airtonix> tzhuang: not much?
[20:53] <smw> mrdeb, it also has a terrible multiwindows system
[20:53] <smw> mrdeb, don't much like the taskbar either
[20:53] <mrdeb> well it is not so bad believe me
[20:54] <mrdeb> you can do base install also and put another over it
[20:54] <eiriksvin> w30 awe man, we need an escape from this: thank you for some sanity
[20:54] <Gorkyman> what should I first read/watch to get to know ubuntu?
[20:54] <smw> mrdeb, it may work better for some, but it does not work well for the way I organize windows.
[20:54] <feste__> so...does anybody have advice about why my ubuntu 10.4 can't access the servers that my ubuntu 11.4 could and that a mac computer in my office can reach?
[20:54] <smw> Gorkyman, just use it.
[20:55] <milanoa> hi
[20:55] <smw> Gorkyman, read what you need to read when you want to do something you don't know how to do.
[20:55] <w30> OmNomNom, how about places computer, file system (icon), host folder?
[20:55] <airtonix> feste__: is ufw enabled or not? if so what does it report with : sudo ufw status ?
[20:55] <jifjaoi3982> feste__: You've got samba installed and properly configured?
[20:56] <Gorkyman> I'm thinking of running ubundu under the windows : )
[20:56] <Gorkyman> ubuntu*
[20:56] <Gorkyman> : )
[20:56] <feste__> airtonix: "inactive"
[20:56] <smw> mrdeb, at least with kde I can disable most effects and still have a functional desktop :-P. unity 2d is not pretty...
[20:56] <reisio> Gorkyman: kinky
[20:56] <OmNomNom> w30: i think i got it
[20:56] <mrdeb> well 3d is faster smw hwen you install driver
[20:56] <feste__> jifjaoi3982: i'm not sure... :(
[20:56] <Gorkyman> I kinda need linux but to install it seperately... ugh I don't know...
[20:56] <airtonix> feste__: next step would be to right click on your public folder in your home folder and select 'sharing' then follow the on screen prompts
[20:57] <Mion> Gorkyman: less trouble to install on a seperate partion or 3, than to use wubi/colinux
[20:57] <smw> mrdeb, ... unity works at full speed for me. I just have a different standard of speed.
[20:57] <feste__> thanks, airtonix !
[20:57] <jifjaoi3982> feste__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Samba/SambaClientGuide
[20:57] <eiriksvin> Gorkyman I would suggest trying a LIVE USB first
[20:57] <feste__> thanks, jifjaoi3982 !
[20:57] <w30> eiriksvin, I don't want a touch screen for my desktop because I'll get peanut butter or pork rind grease all over it.
[20:57] <airtonix> feste__: then enable ufw and : sudo ufw allow in to any app samba
[20:57] <eiriksvin> w30 heh :)
[20:58] <Gorkyman> eiriksvin: can I transform live usb to full instalation in the future ?
[20:58] <KjetilK> I'm installing 11.10 on a brand new OCZ Vertex Plus SSD drive. The install goes fine, it boots fine, but then weird stuff starts happening. The home partition appears to somehow get completely corrupted, the filesystem (ext4, with discard enabled) is not anymore recognized, eventually the same thing happens to the root filesystem (also ext4). At that point, I just get the grub rescue prompt. I've been looking around with a rescue disk,
[20:58] <KjetilK> but not found a lot
[20:58] <airtonix> feste__: everything after the colon there was an actual ufw command
[20:58] <mrdeb> ok well smw then you only have one choice
[20:58] <eiriksvin> Gorkyman yes
[20:58] <smw> mrdeb, I am listening :-)
[20:58] <KjetilK> I think the SSD sounds pretty damaged, but I'm not positive
[20:58] <Gorkyman> if I find alternatives to office and other software that I regulary use... I might switch to ubuntu...
[20:59] <KjetilK> any advices? (how to confirm it is deadish, debug it in case it is the install, ...)
[20:59] <mrdeb> base install + openbox
[20:59] <OmNomNom> W30: from the Home Window -> File System -> Host
[20:59] <eiriksvin> Gorkyman you can even just make a Persistant USB which is awesome too
[20:59] <smw> mrdeb, haha. I like my advanced power management god damn it!
[20:59] <mrdeb> you can install xfce power manager
[21:00] <Gorkyman> eiriksvin: any good alternative to office? :) for serious users? :)
[21:00] <smw> mrdeb, lxde is awesome. But it fails miserably on my laptop
[21:00] <w30> eiriksvin, when your first click opens s window that covers entire 192x1200 screen with about 5 apps that means xv or xcreensaver is about 20 clicks away
[21:00] <airtonix> looking for someone else here that uses keepassx and unity. keepassx icon rocks up in the notification area but the launcher doesn't indicate that it's running nor can i make the notification icon reveal the application window
[21:00] <smw> mrdeb, and on openbox I would need to spend so much time configuring... everything
[21:00] <mrdeb> no don worry i have configs saved
[21:00] <mrdeb> u just copy into home dir
[21:01] <smw> mrdeb, ?
[21:01] <mrdeb> i mean when you set things up one time, then you can copy them into new install
[21:02] <smw> mrdeb, I one time tried a system without any DE. It was hell. Want to open a pdf file? Go find a program. Found the program? Lets figure out how to make pcman automatically open pdfs with that program. Got it working? great
[21:02] <smw> mrdeb, oh wait, chrome doesn't know how to do it!
[21:02] <mrdeb> no you dont need that
[21:02] <smw> mrdeb, I have been through this!
[21:02] <mrdeb> you run all in terminal and are happy when you learn
[21:02] <eiriksvin> Gorkyman Ubuntu 10.10 or 11.04 (Ubuntu Classic) was the most porwerful for me. I disabled all the special junk and ran Blender 3D on it modeling MONSTER sized terrains in realtime
[21:02] <airtonix> smw: you don't need to tell chrome to open pdf in another program by the way.
[21:02] <noo> Hello. Can somebody tell me what the current state of linux and ntfs file systems is? I heard it's dangerous to connect external hard drives with ntfs to linux and to write it, because it might be the case that one can't read the hard drive from windows afterwards.
[21:03] <mrdeb> you dont need file manager
[21:03] <smw> airtonix, on a completely stripped down system, you do
[21:03] <feste__> airtonix: is it weird that only one out of three servers is selectively not responding to this particular computer?
[21:03] <smw> mrdeb, oh really?
[21:03] <mrdeb> yes u need terminal and udisks and upower that's it
[21:04] <smw> mrdeb, and next thing you are going to do is tell me to use mutt and elinks
[21:04] <mrdeb> no i use links
[21:04] <mrdeb> also firefox
[21:04] <airtonix> feste__: check that the servers are actually the same version and what is the variation in their configuration (and their firewall settings), you might also benefit from testing the machine samba shares from other computers, by : ip address, avahi address, and wins address
[21:04] <orp> hi there
[21:05] <feste__> thanks! will do! :)
[21:05] <airtonix> smw: i'm not sure if you looked at chrome lately, but it renders pdfs by itself.
[21:05] <orp> any one know how to conect php to a sharepoint ?
[21:05] <smw> airtonix, I don't use chrome. I use chromium
[21:05] <airtonix> orp: ask in #php or #sharepoint
[21:05] <eiriksvin> Thats why i loved Classic Ubuntu, it was great for multi-tasking, now with this Unity it's clickity clackity (too much clicking to get to what I want) which slows down my workflow
[21:05] <TheEvilPhoenix> airtonix:  ##php
[21:05] <smw> mrdeb, gnome2 worked by magic and was decently fast. Fast is now measured not by how fast it boots but by how fast it responds..
[21:06] <smw> eiriksvin, exactly
[21:06] <eiriksvin> smw yeah!! Speed is awesome
[21:06] <airtonix> smw: it doesn't sound like you have any actual solveable problems... are you just here to complain?
[21:06] <mrdeb> yes gnome 2 is better but it is gone now
[21:06] <TheEvilPhoenix> orp:  can I /query you?
[21:06] <orp> yes
[21:06] <smw> airtonix, for the most part I solved the problem. I use KDE
[21:07] <smw> airtonix, after an hour it is usable.
[21:07] <airtonix> smw: cool, i suggest you take the conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic where i would fit in with the rest of the noise there
[21:07] <airtonix> :>
[21:07] <smw> lol
[21:07] <airtonix> s/i/it/
[21:07] <noname120> hi
[21:07] <p1ruj3> anyone use unity 3d with vnc?
[21:08] <eiriksvin> One thing that ticks me off is that I use Blender 3D so I have to disable the hotkeys for workspace switching... Unity makes it soo slow
[21:08] <smw> airtonix, I was talking to eiriksvin about the options I had tried. Then someone started arguing over if unity was really that bad
[21:08] <noname120> if I give a deb file to users, can they broke there sys installing it ('cause of binary based and source based sys)
[21:08] <noname120> ?
[21:09] <smw> airtonix, it seems eiriksvin and I have the same ideas of what is good so I was explaining what I had tried and the levels of success I had.
[21:09] <Mion> noname120: not if you set up sane deps
[21:09] <noname120> if I give a deb file to users, can they broke there sys installing it ('cause of binary based and source based sys) ?
[21:09] <Mion> noname120: binaries are not portable between distroes btw unless you build the staticly
[21:09] <eiriksvin> is there a way to make that dash pop right out as soon as I swing over? The waiting is killing me
[21:09] <reisio> noname120: they can confuse their package manager, yes
[21:09] <yoga> How do I create a link at the sidebar in Nautilus?
[21:09] <smw> airtonix, but then someone tries to convince me I don't know what I want and discussion gets skewed :-P
[21:09] <noname120> Mion : I dunnot know all this stuff, I have installed a prog using ./configure and make and sudo make install
[21:09] <eiriksvin> I want responsiveness
[21:09] <reisio> noname120: but most people should know about that risk
[21:10] <airtonix> p1ruj3: i'm sure there are a statistically large amount of people that might. but what's your real question?
[21:10] <mrdeb> well good luck smw
[21:10] <Mion> noname120: ewww
[21:10] <smw> mrdeb, thanks :-)
[21:10] <wabash> What's a recommended keyserver for getting ubuntu release keys?
[21:10] <noname120> So can I give the sources and say they have to ./configure it and make and sudo make install ?
[21:10] <smw> eiriksvin, don't be afraid to try many options.
[21:10] <noname120> is there a risk to broke the system ?
[21:11] <smw> eiriksvin, install kubuntu-desktop, then disable compositing (desktops effects) and see if that works for you
[21:11] <noname120> Mion : So can I give the sources and say they have to ./configure it and make and sudo make install ? is there a risk to broke the system ?
[21:11] <smw> eiriksvin, also disable grouping on the task bar and ensure that only windows from the desktop you are using show up :-)
[21:12] <VNC-Server-user> My machine is only on and I can not connect via VNC. only with SSH.                  My user isn't logged into anything at all. Since the machine was remotely rebooted.
[21:12] <VNC-Server-user> How can I start the vino-server?
[21:12] <smw> eiriksvin, pm me if you have any questions :-)
[21:12] <Mion> noname120: if they do stupid things, sure
[21:12] <noname120> Mion : So can I give the sources and say they have to ./configure it and make and sudo make install ? is there a risk to broke the system ?
[21:12] <eiriksvin> smw where are these options
[21:12] <noname120> What do you mean by "stupid things" ?
[21:12] <p1ruj3> airtonix my guess is it would be ultra slow (and I cannot get it to work since the 11.10 upgrade), just curious if anyone has it working well before spending time on figuring out what's going on
[21:12] <smw> eiriksvin, "system settings"
[21:12] <Slimcea_boy> Hello, I've set up my print server as described at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu#Ubuntu_print_server - and I've set up my print client as described at #Printing_from_Ubuntu. The printer appears on the client, but when I try to print to the network printer, the step "getting printer information" always fails. What could be the problem here?
[21:13] <airtonix> p1ruj3: vnc has always been 'slow' have you tried to use the alternatives in stead? like freenx?
[21:13] <smw> eiriksvin, it is god awful to find stuff in it, but at least everything is in one place.
[21:13] <p1ruj3> VNC-Server-user try running vncserver :1
[21:13] <smw> eiriksvin, an hour in it and you should understand it well enough...
[21:13] <p1ruj3> airtonix I havn't
[21:13] <eiriksvin> cool
[21:13] <VNC-Server-user> p1ruj3: But that's not installed, and I already have a vnc. That's called vino-server
[21:14] <airtonix> p1ruj3: the other thing you would try doing is using the unity2d interface
[21:14] <noname120> Mion : What do you mean by "stupid things" ?
[21:15] <p1ruj3> VNC-Server-user depending on the ver that's installed by default
[21:15] <Mion> noname120: not using the distros build system as an example
[21:15] <noname120> ok
[21:15] <VNC-Server-user> p1ruj3: Yea, I'm on ubuntu 11.10
[21:15] <liam> what is speech dispatcher used for?
[21:15] <noname120> So I say if they have compiled there sys on their own, they have to not do this, right ?
[21:16] <eiriksvin> is it soo hard to make a completely customizable OS and let people add what they want to it (Ubuntu 10.10) instead of forcing junk onto people
[21:16] <smw> eiriksvin, of course it is!
[21:16] <noname120> Mion : So I say if they have compiled there sys on their own, they have to not do this, right ?
[21:16] <guntbert> eiriksvin: this is no place for venting,  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[21:17] <auronandace> eiriksvin: feel free not to use unity (or whatever it is you disagree with)
[21:17] <p1ruj3> airtonix tried to get that rolling, couldn't - was able to get gnome going, kinda rough because I only vnc into the server or ssh my guess is my xstart is jacked...
[21:17] <Mion> eiriksvin: lots of distroes that are aimed at what you want, ubuntu is not one of them
[21:17] <auronandace> eiriksvin: i use xfce, its great
[21:18] <eiriksvin> guntbert yeah: how do I change the icon size of the dashb? how do I make it respond faster on mousehover? I got a million
[21:19] <Polah> eiriksvin, nothing is forced. There is only the default to give people something to use to get to what they want (:
[21:19] <eiriksvin> why don't 11.10 have screensavers?
[21:19] <reisio> eiriksvin: it's a GNOME 3 thing
[21:19] <Swagger> whats up
[21:19] <reisio> eiriksvin: you can install xscreensaver if you want
[21:20] <smw> eiriksvin, most of this is gnome's fault.
[21:20] <smw> eiriksvin, that is why switching distros is not a long term solution. :-(
[21:20] <yoga> In Nautilus, Bookmark, Add Bookmark doesn't work, it seems.
[21:20] <noname120> thx for help see you Mion
[21:21] <Swagger> I'm new here
[21:21] <aeon-ltd> Swagger: wilkommen
[21:22] <mega1> ok i have setup a user using sudo useradd -d /home/mark -m mark if i use firefox to ftp into it he can go up the levels how do i stop the user doing that
[21:23] <kenzo110> !lista
[21:23] <Swagger> who else is on backtrack?
[21:23] <Mion> mega1: depends on what ftp server you use
[21:23] <celltech> What is a stable, low RAM using linux distro?
[21:23] <kenzo110> !list
[21:23] <aeon-ltd> Swagger: the guys in #backtrack are
[21:23] <reisio> celltech: not Ubuntu
[21:23] <p1ruj3> airtonix is there a package for freenx server?
[21:23] <kenzo110> !xman
[21:23] <celltech> :) Which is why I'm asking
[21:23] <reisio> celltech: how low are we talking about
[21:23] <mega1> i am using ubuntu 10.04
[21:24] <aeon-ltd> Swagger: #backtrack-linux
[21:24] <Swagger> ok
[21:24] <aeon-ltd> celltech: how low is low?
[21:24] <celltech> I've got an older system with 512 and I need to run a vbox of xp at a little over minimal performace
[21:24] <kenzo110> !tor
[21:24] <drvladimirtzu> I have Windows installed to sdb2, but for whatever reason grub doesn't have a windows listing at startup.  What do I need to do to get it there?
[21:24] <kenzo110> !tor
[21:24] <aeon-ltd> celltech: not possible unless the vm is pretty much the only thing you run
[21:25] <celltech> Which is why the distro needs to use very little
[21:25] <eiriksvin> does AWN work with unity?
[21:25] <reisio> celltech: you need to run vbox on a host with 512mb only?
[21:25] <Swagger> how do i get a dictionary file for my os
[21:25] <celltech> aeon-ltd 10.04's min was 128 mb... Which was good What's stable that uses about that?
[21:25] <reisio> celltech: what processor is it?
[21:26] <celltech> Pentium 2.0
[21:26] <aeon-ltd> celltech: i'm using archlinux with dwm and can boot into just under 40mb ram
[21:26] <celltech> supposed to be 2.7
[21:26] <p1ruj3> airtonix - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX - I assume that will do just fine with 11.10? has anyone here tested?
[21:26] <celltech> aeon-ltd Someone once suggested Mint
[21:26] <fellayaboy> hey is it possible to have wine recognize a usb flash drive?
[21:26] <reisio> celltech: which pentium 2
[21:26] <Lazz> !tor-sasl
[21:26] <Asad> Anybody know how to change application icons on unity launcher? Some apps or .sh files don't have an associated icon
[21:26] <reisio> fellayaboy: ?
[21:26] <reisio> fellayaboy: yes
[21:27] <reisio> celltech: Mint is just Ubuntu
[21:27] <celltech> Pentium 4 2.7ghz
[21:27] <fellayaboy> umm how do i go about doing taht reisio
[21:27] <reisio> fellayaboy: wineconfig
[21:27] <fellayaboy> ok let me see reisio
[21:27] <reisio> celltech: you on it now?
[21:27] <celltech> yes
[21:27] <reisio> celltech: does it have vt-x? grep vmx /proc/cpuinfo
[21:28] <celltech> Nothings showing up
[21:28] <reisio> celltech: too bad
[21:28] <dddbmt> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to install nvidia drivers on 10.04 - System -> Administration -> Hardware Drivers, does NOT show anything
[21:28] <reisio> celltech: how user friendly does the UI need to be
[21:28] <celltech> Fairly simple
[21:28] <celltech> sudo's kind of bother me
[21:29] <reisio> celltech: you might try Lubuntu
[21:29] <robin0800> yoga, it does but you need the folder open that you wish to bookmark
[21:29] <celltech> Why did ubuntu make 4 versions?
[21:29] <reisio> celltech: it didn't
[21:29] <aeon-ltd> they're forks
[21:29] <reisio> celltech: they ran cp Debian Ubuntu, and then other people did the same and added their own modifications
[21:29] <celltech> Ubunbutu, kubuntu, xbuntu, and lubuntu
[21:29] <aeon-ltd> canonical only backs about 3 of all variations
[21:29] <quidnunc> Is lightdm the correct default for /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[21:29] <quidnunc> ?
[21:29] <reisio> celltech: because people liked Ubuntu but not GNOME
[21:30] <fm_> can anybody reproduce https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/freerdp/+bug/881452 ?
[21:30] <yoga> reisio: I get it.
[21:30] <smw> celltech, lubutu is not official but I believe edubuntu is
[21:30] <smw> celltech, still 4, lol
[21:30] <reisio> yoga: get what? :)
[21:30] <celltech> Which of the 4 use the least amount of ram to run
[21:30] <reisio> lubuntu is official
[21:30] <aeon-ltd> celltech: server
[21:30] <aeon-ltd> :)
[21:30] <reisio> as is edubuntu
[21:30] <reisio> celltech: Lubuntu should use the least
[21:30] <smw> reisio, I thought it was borderline.
[21:30] <celltech> But server doesn't have a standard desktop does it? isn't that all sudo
[21:31] <reisio> borderline? :p
[21:31] <wolfmitchell> Hey
[21:31] <reisio> things either are or aren't
[21:31] <reisio> wolfmitchell: hi
[21:31] <smw> reisio, "working towards inclusion"
[21:31] <aeon-ltd> celltech: from there install X and a wm that will get the lightest possible before stripping the kernel of modules
[21:31] <mega2> i am using proftpd
[21:31] <smw> reisio, like 1 or 2 releases away from "official" lol
[21:31] <yoga> robin0800: I can make the bookmark.
[21:31] <robin0800> quidnunc, no that's only the login screen
[21:31] <quidnunc> robin0800: What should be the contents of that file?
[21:32] <celltech> IS there a way to just strip my 11.04 down to minimum?
[21:32] <reisio> smw: I'm sure they were at that point some time before they were official
[21:32] <reisio> celltech: technically you can tell GNOME not to install
[21:32] <aeon-ltd> celltech: not in a short way
[21:32] <yoga> celltech
[21:32] <reisio> celltech: and install LXDE and use that instead
[21:32] <wolfmitchell> I like my windows desktop on Ubuntu 10.10
[21:32] <reisio> celltech: it might be complex, though, GNOME comes with a lot of stuff you'd want to avoid that Lubuntu's desktop packages might already avoid
[21:32] <reisio> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde maybe
[21:33] <celltech> Yeah cause I need a vbox and able to multitask
[21:33] <ry> can anyone think of a reason why websites in chrome would load incredibly slow, in a lot of cases timing out, when firefox/opera load fine? (ubuntu 10.10, tried everything, reinstalling/changing versions, removing user profile, dns/network changes... i'm out of ideas
[21:33] <robin0800> quidnunc, compiz, metecity,mutter though you could probably leave it blank
[21:33] <mega2> ok i have setup a user using sudo useradd -d /home/mark -m mark if i use firefox to ftp into it he can go up the levels how do i stop the user doing that i am using proftpd
[21:33] <aeon-ltd> ry: are you testing one at a time?
[21:33] <qin> ry: disable js?
[21:34] <ry> i usually use both, all day long
[21:34] <reisio> ry: probably busy sending all your information to Google
[21:34] <celltech> ry my chromium sometimes won't load certain chat rooms
[21:34] <quidnunc> robin0800: I think lightdm is the correct entry for that file
[21:34] <ry> i will disable js, pretty sure i tried disabling all plugins/extensions, not sure about js completely though
[21:34] <quidnunc> (correct default entry)
[21:34] <wolfmitchell> Ry-Chrome or Chrominium?
[21:34] <ry> i tried chromium, i'm talking about actual chrome
[21:34] <reisio> celltech: dunno where you are, but you know a new computer with probably quadruple the resources of what you have now is like $200
[21:34] <wolfmitchell> Ah.
[21:35] <reisio> celltech: in the USA, that is; and RAM is even cheaper
[21:35] <wolfmitchell> Run these:
[21:35] <celltech> Oh one more thing before I jet out and play with a spare harddrive. Keyring. Can I just get rid of it?
[21:35] <wolfmitchell> sudo apt-get remove chrome
[21:35] <Slimcea_boy> Why would the "getting printer information" step when trying to print to a networked printer always fail?
[21:35] <reisio> celltech: might check http://crucial.com/ to see if there's a deal to be had
[21:35] <wolfmitchell> sudo apt-get install chrominium
[21:35] <aeon-ltd> reisio: $200? heh heh ehhehehehheehhehehhehe
[21:35]  * aeon-ltd laughs
[21:35] <reisio> celltech: the proc you mentioned isn't that bad, with 2GB of RAM you'd be much better off
[21:35] <wolfmitchell> Chrominium is the same, but with no data sent to google
[21:35] <reisio> aeon-ltd: not everyone plays crysis
[21:35] <ry> i've tried that, along with chrome-stable/beta/alpha
[21:36] <celltech> Yeah. I have a Compaq Evo D510. I think I can hold a max of 1gb ram
[21:36] <VNC-Server-user> reisio: I would spend $1,000 for a new cxomputer. Get a 16GB machine. A lot of softwares are made nowadays, and your machine's resoucres are never enough.
[21:36] <aeon-ltd> reisio: there's no way $200 will get it new, second hand much more likely
[21:36] <reisio> VNC-Server-user: all the more reason to not bother spending cash attempting to make it enough
[21:36] <reisio> aeon-ltd: no really
[21:36] <reisio> personally seen the price tags
[21:36] <reisio> not with a monitor, of course
[21:36] <reisio> not on average, anyways
[21:37] <quidnunc> Is there a way to search files in uninstalled packages from the command line?
[21:37] <reisio> quidnunc: apt-file search
[21:37] <hexacode> hey you guys. in my terminal i clicked view then unchecked show menu....how do i get the menu to come back?
[21:37] <VNC-Server-user> reisio: I see your point, but we an't fight this/stop this. Ya know. New windows are made not for us. But for "ignorant" people who do not even know how to go to "their DESKTOP".
[21:37] <wolfmitchell> Hexa, try alt
[21:37] <reisio> hexacode: can you right click somewhere on the term?
[21:37] <reisio> VNC-Server-user: :p
[21:37] <mega2> can anyone help
[21:37] <VNC-Server-user> !ask
[21:37] <reisio> mega2: ^
[21:38] <fhtagn> hexacode: press Alt+v
[21:38] <mega2> ok i have setup a user using sudo useradd -d /home/mark -m mark if i use firefox to ftp into it he can go up the levels how do i stop the user doing that i am using proftpd
[21:38] <hexacode> reisio: doesnt have corect options, just resize and position and all
[21:38] <reisio> hexacode: F10?
[21:38] <celltech> bbl. Thank you everyone
[21:38] <hexacode> none of those ideas work
[21:39] <Swagger> how do i get a dictionary file on backtrack 5
[21:39] <VNC-Server-user> mega2: You may need a software that locks them into a certain root directory they are only allowed to go to. (IIRC, that would be chroot? )
[21:39] <hexacode> why dont u all uncheck show menu and then try out ur command first lol
[21:40] <fhtagn> hexacode: i did, and alt+v doesn't work indeed. however, right-clicking the terminal window shows me "Show Menubar"
[21:40] <fhtagn> hexacode: using ubuntu 11.04 upgraded to 11.10
[21:41] <quidnunc> mega2: Read the docs and sample configus for proftpd, it is explained there.
[21:41] <quidnunc> configs*
[21:41] <liam> just installed 11.10 and it doesn't boot to GUI after I restart it. Any ideas on what I can look for?
[21:43] <quidnunc> reisio: thanks
[21:43] <reisio> quidnunc: yw
[21:44] <pooltable> how do i run this PanelRestore.sh
[21:44] <Swagger> does anyone know how to get a dictionary file on backtrack 5
[21:44] <escott> !backtrack | Swagger
[21:45] <escott> pooltable, chmod +x PanelRestore.sh; ./PanelRestore.sh
[21:45] <graingert> pooltable: what's that file from?
[21:45] <graingert> does anyone know a ubuntu torrent client that supports webseeds?
[21:45] <pooltable> escott what is chom?
[21:45] <graingert> deluge and transmission don't
[21:45] <graingert> pooltable: try chown
[21:45] <graingert> sorry
[21:45] <graingert> chmod
[21:46] <escott> pooltable, change mode bits -- ie change permissions; +x is + executable
[21:46] <graingert> the word "chom" threw me
[21:46] <improveupon> ubuntu freezes when i open nautilus or try to open the mounted dvd drive. i just ran "check disk for errors" from a live cd and it said "2 errors found!" how bad is that? can someone suggest a link to read?
[21:46] <graingert> improveupon: very bad
[21:46] <improveupon> graingert: replace hard disk?
[21:47] <pooltable> graingert what is chown?
[21:47] <improveupon> the temp on the hard disk seems to be reading high but smart health is at 98% which it always has been
[21:47] <escott> improveupon, check for disc errors in the installer checks to see if your installer was burned correctly. with a bad install cd you may not be able to install a system
[21:47] <BlueEagle> !man chown
[21:47] <szarys> hi
[21:47] <t0mas> hi, after upgrading to 11.10 and installing  gnome-shell it seems that the "file menu bar" that was moved to the top of the screen in Unity appears a bit later when opening a window (using Gnome-shell). Is there something I can do about that? Hardware is quite new and not slow in other areas
[21:47] <fhtagn> pooltable: chown manages permissions. You need to make a file executable. try "sh filename.sh" to run it as a bash script, see what happens
[21:48] <BlueEagle> !chown | pooltable
[21:48] <szarys> siema
[21:48] <fhtagn> pooltable: i mean chmod manages permissions. chown manages the owner/group the file belongs to
[21:50] <dorgan> OK folks i have finally decided to upgrade my workstation at work from 9.04   the problem is when i run "update-manager -d"  it wants to upgrade to 10.04 and that is not possible from 9.04   so how do i upgrade to 9.10?
[21:50] <dorgan> do i have to use the alternative CD or is there still a way to do it over the net?
[21:50] <neckoox> hi guys !  i want to proxify the requests coming from BIND9 . is it possible ?
[21:50] <BlueEagle> improveupon: In my experience an isolated incident of broken file system does not warrant replacing a harddisk, but you may want to freshen the backups of your important stuff in case it's not an isolated incident.
[21:51] <BlueEagle> improveupon: Most of the time you will be able to recover most info from a "slightly" broken file system, but keep watching it if it gets worse by checking it once a day for the next two days and then once a week for the next two weeks. If nothing else crops up then your disk is most likely just fine.
[21:51] <userone> i make a modification to pcmanfm.config, save and reboot and yet the change reappears. how can i find which other files are 'writing' to pcmanfm.config on start up?
[21:52] <pooltable> i use to just click on and and it work now it is being open by IE
[21:52] <yoga> How do I set Adobe Reader to be the default to open .pdf file?
[21:52] <eXpander> Wow, Internet Explorer 9 works now
[21:52] <BlueEagle> eXpander: That's a bit of an over statement isn't it? :p
[21:53] <reisio> eXpander: you lie!
[21:53] <reisio> yoga: in what?
[21:53] <yoga> reisio: in Nautilus
[21:54] <dorgan> anyone
[21:54] <userone> i want to completely remove nautilus and use pcmanfm instead. will this break 11.10?
[21:55] <reisio> userone: don't remove it, just use pcmanfm
[21:55] <VNC-Server-user> userone: Ask virtualbox.
[21:55] <ry> actually, i used pcmanfm for a while
[21:55] <Jilly> Ok, guys...really dumb question..but how do I tell which desktop I'm running?
[21:55] <ry> i liked it... but then i figured out how to make nautilus awesome
[21:55] <pooltable> ok got to work
[21:55] <Jilly> I thought I had gnome 3...but not so sure now.
[21:56] <ry> made pcmanfm obsolete mighty quick
[21:56] <reisio> Jilly: screenshot?
[21:56] <reisio> ry: heh
[21:56] <userone> ry: how did you make nautilus. it runs extremely slow on my system, and i have 4gb ram
[21:56] <pooltable> jilly 11.10 is 3.0 any thing is 2.0
[21:56] <reisio> well nautilus and pcmanfm, while both file managers, do not do all the same things
[21:56] <ry> define slow?
[21:56] <reisio> nautilus can probably fully replace pcmanfm, but likely not the other way around
[21:56] <ry> my system isnt anything super powerful either
[21:57] <ry> i do have more ram
[21:57] <Jilly> um...ok...so where are all my font settings and things in gnome 3
[21:57] <reisio> userone: it's probably less nautilus and more the rest of the DE
[21:57] <userone> ry: 13 minutes just to open, and thats before i can even pick a file!
[21:57] <ry> wow
[21:57] <Tecnic29> Hola saludos a todos
[21:57] <reisio> userone: kudos on waiting that long... I guess
[21:57] <ry> something is wrong, i've used nautilus on ancient systems and it wasnt slow
[21:58] <ry> i'm running ubuntu 10.10 on a i5 520m / 8gb ram
[21:58] <VNC-Server-user> Jilly: Click on Ubuntu logo in Unity "Left side" taskbar launch/taskbar tray thingy.          Type in System                 Then clikc on System Monitor. When that program loads up, click on the "System tab" next to "Processes".
[21:58] <ry> but even with 4gb it ran great
[21:58] <reisio> I have, and it was slow, but only because using GNOME on ancient systems is slow
[21:58] <reisio> yoga: sorry coming up short, but it should be somewhere in the gconf/registry
[21:59] <Jilly> oh ok...so gnome 3.2.0...so what happened to being able to pick your own fonts, etc.
[21:59] <userone> ry: nautilus is the only slow app on my machine (dual core 4 gb ram 1gb nvidia graphics card 64 bit) so can you tell me what i am doing wrong, or at least where to start
[21:59] <sam555> hello all
[21:59] <sam555> how do I load the 11.10 os for installation from a usb drive?
[21:59] <reisio> hi sam
[21:59] <VNC-Server-user> Jilly: Ya, go get it. sudo apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool
[21:59] <reisio> sam555: you could use unetbootin, usb-creator, dd
[22:00] <sam555> I used unetbootin-windows-357.exe to create a boot image
[22:00] <Jilly> VNC...oh ok...thanks. :)
[22:00] <reisio> sam555: that should work
[22:00] <sam555> reisio: however, it won't boot into the gui, it boots into the busy box shell
[22:00] <liam> is it ok to install the AMD64 version on my core i7 laptop or is there another 64 bit version?
[22:00] <reisio> sam555: and what image was it you used?
[22:00] <reisio> liam: amd64 is the right one
[22:00] <VNC-Server-user> Jilly: Some features there are experimental though.
[22:00] <liam> reisio: ty
[22:00] <monaDeveloper> Hi
[22:01] <VNC-Server-user> Jilly: But that will get the job done.
[22:01] <reisio> monaDeveloper: hi
[22:01] <sam555> reisio: the one here http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download
[22:01] <Jilly> VNC....well that's fine, not sure why they took out the appearance preferences is all.
[22:01] <userone> ry: how did you make nautilus awesome?
[22:01] <DrSlony> Help, I'm not an ubuntu user but I'm writing a script for Ubuntu users, could someone please quickly tell me if 11.10 has liblcms1-dev ?
[22:02] <monaDeveloper> I'm trying to modify php.ini file but whenever I do that and thought it's saved successfully and I restart the apache server but the phpinfo() is not showing the modifications I did at all
[22:02] <reisio> sam555: it's possible your graphics hardware has confused the image
[22:02] <VNC-Server-user> liam: Sure. Especially if that's like the only 64bit available.         People call 32bit os an i386 (note: intel name).             And 64bit (amd64).
[22:02] <reisio> sam555: you might try the alternate install image, which should present you with a framebuffer installer
[22:02] <DrSlony> older versions used to have liblcms1-dev, 11.10 has liblcms2-dev, does it still have liblcms1-dev?
[22:02] <VNC-Server-user> !php
[22:02] <sam555> reisio: gotcha!
[22:02] <reisio> sam555: similar to the beginning stages of installing Windows
[22:02] <monaDeveloper> I edited both /apache2/php.ini and cli/php.ini and also made sure there is not other php.ini files
[22:02] <VNC-Server-user> Darn it.
[22:02] <VNC-Server-user>  monaDeveloper, visit #php
[22:02] <reisio> sam555: takes less complex graphics automagick
[22:03] <sam555> reisio: it is an old dell pc, should we just use 10 instead?  We were using 9, but the new printer we got, won't work with 9.
[22:03] <VNC-Server-user> monaDeveloper: Unless, how did you installed php? o_O
[22:03] <qin> !info liblcms1-dev
[22:03] <VNC-Server-user> monaDeveloper: Used apt-get or did you ./configure'd it.
[22:03] <yoga> How do I go to those hiden directories in Nautilus?
[22:03] <qin> DrSlony: ^^^
[22:03] <reisio> sam555: I'm sure you can get it to work, but if you don't have time to debug...
[22:03] <VNC-Server-user> yoga: Push CTRL + H to see hidden files. Push those keys again will hide them from view.
[22:04] <reisio> sam555: what printer is it?
[22:04] <yoga> How to type in the path in Nauntilus?
[22:04] <VNC-Server-user> yoga: Names of files and folders begining with a period will be hidden.
[22:04] <monaDeveloper> sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[22:04] <monaDeveloper> yes
[22:04] <ry> i'm looking for a screenshot
[22:04] <VNC-Server-user> yoga: Push CTRL + L          (Show -L- ocation bar).
[22:04] <DrSlony> qin thanks!
[22:04] <sam555> reisio: it's an hp deskjet 1055
[22:04] <qin> yoga: Ctrl-H, Ctrl-L
[22:04] <DrSlony> !info liblcms2-dev
[22:04] <ry> yeah, the key to linux "user experience"
[22:04] <ry> learn the shortcuts
[22:05] <reisio> sam555: is that just a printer or an all-in-one?
[22:05] <meowsus> Hey, I just upgraded my memory from 4gb to 8gb. My swap is at the end of my primary drive and is 4gb. Is that sufficient? I don't have any more room on the drive to expand it.
[22:05] <SilfenX> can I use Network Manager in a persistent virtual desktop VNC session on Ubuntu Server?
[22:05] <VNC-Server-user> monaDeveloper: You were better off doing this:         sudo apt-get install apache2 php5
[22:05] <Jilly> Thanks for the help guys!
[22:06] <monaDeveloper> ok
[22:06] <reisio> meowsus: yes, more than sufficient
[22:06] <sam555> reisio: all in one
[22:06] <meowsus> reisio, yeah, thats what i figured... swap is confusing to me, every time i read anything about it the "rule of thumb" is to have as much as your ram
[22:06] <reisio> meowsus: the only issue would be if you're using a laptop or other hibernate-ing system, you could theoretically end up with more data to store than will fit on the swap partition
[22:06] <reisio> meowsus: tuxonice is supposed to be able to work around this, however
[22:06] <VNC-Server-user> monaDeveloper: IF you want mysql.         It's a whole lot better to first install mysql: sudo apt-get install mysql-server                            THEN run this command: sudo apt-get install phpmyadmin
[22:06] <sam555> reisio: we're going to use a 10.10 iso instead.  Thanks for the info.  We're going to lunch now.  You've been very helpful!
[22:06] <reisio> meowsus: right, because you want to be able to save everything you have in RAM for hibernation
[22:07] <meowsus> Its on a desktop, and sometimes i put it to sleep, but not usually
[22:07] <reisio> meowsus: it's pretty unlikely to matter
[22:07] <meowsus> If i start to have problems ill just shut the bastard down instead of just putting it to sleep
[22:07] <meowsus> Thanks for your help!
[22:07] <monaDeveloper> well everything was working but unfortunately I need to increase the max_upload_filesize
[22:07] <iceroot> VNC-Server-user: its ok to use it in one command, because of the dependencies apt-get will choose the correct order
[22:08] <reisio> sam555: I bet hplip supports that
[22:08] <escott> meowsus, one consideration of swap is for hibernation. if you swap is smaller than your ram in use you may not be able to hibernate.
[22:08] <reisio> sam555: it only lists 1050, but usually a close model # is enough
[22:08] <reisio> well no you should be able to hibernate
[22:08] <VNC-Server-user> iceroot: I've experienced hassle running all those together.           Which is why it's better to put mysql in first, before phpmyadmin otherwise, it would panic.
[22:08] <reisio> it just might not recover as perfectly as you'd like
[22:09] <meowsus> right on
[22:09] <reisio> the various hibernation methods compensate for these types of situations, AIUI
[22:09] <yoga> After I star FBReader, but I just Alt+Tab and it's gone?
[22:09] <yoga> start
[22:09] <meowsus> Im actually not sure if it hibernates or suspends, or really the difference between the two
[22:09] <reisio> most people probably won't max out using their 8GB of RAM and then force the system to suspend it all anyways :p
[22:09] <VNC-Server-user> yoga: Alt+Tab switches windows you're viewing. (common key, worksin windows too).
[22:10] <escott> meowsus, one keeps the power to the ram, but puts the cpu in a very slow mode. the other writes data to the hard drive and halts the system
[22:10] <reisio> meowsus: not important on the software level
[22:10] <userone> so now nautilus is not responding and i have to do a force quit
[22:10] <userone> 1 am only using 1.1gb of 4gb
[22:10] <meowsus> escott, suspend is the halt, correct?
[22:10] <yoga> VNC-Server-user: I mean, once I Alt+Tab, the FBReader just quit!
[22:10] <ry> userone, pretty bad examples, but these are some random old screenshots i have that reveal nautilus (as well as other ui elements i suppose --   http://interestingsh.it/ry/img/index.php?path=ss/ )
[22:11] <reisio> meowsus: there are various types
[22:11] <VNC-Server-user> meowsus: Note, if it's an internet related task, you will not have that session recovered exactly how you like it. Whether the computer sleeps/snores, you're screwed.
[22:11] <reisio> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_mode
[22:11] <reisio> but each bit of software handles them all, so again it's only relevant if you want to understand it
[22:11] <VNC-Server-user> yoga: Hold ALT, then "tap" tab. :+)
[22:11] <meowsus> VNC-Server-user, that makes sense
[22:11] <meowsus> thanks guys
[22:12] <escott> meowsus, the other way around i think. there are actually a number of low power states in modern hardware, but suspend usually means the system draws current, hibernate you could literally unplug it
[22:12] <reisio> you can get it to draw incredibly little, however
[22:12] <VNC-Server-user> meowsus: Actually. "NOT" screwed. More like "Your internet is disconnected, and you're offline PERIOLD".
[22:12] <reisio> and there are decent arguments against spinning your disks down
[22:12] <yoga> VNC-Server-user: it just exit, and it's not even in the ps
[22:12] <reisio> nothing is going to suck more energy than having your monitor powered, however
[22:12] <VNC-Server-user> yoga: Wow, wonderful. (Ugh, weird).
[22:13] <reisio> which is why eInk displays are so hot
[22:13] <yoga> VNC-Server-user: even just press Alt it's process gone!
[22:13] <meowsus> I just picked up an LED... but this is getting to be OT
[22:13] <meowsus> ;)
[22:14] <userone> ry: thanks. i just tried thunar and thats slow too. it must be the way the file manager is accessing my files ( i do have some massive cad/cgi files../.8GB single file!)
[22:14] <yoga> Can anyone start FBReader in ubuntu-desktop?
[22:15] <userone> anyway, go to go now. full-blown ubuntu 11.10 is killing my netbook so i need to try lubuntu!
[22:16] <VNC-Server-user> userone: xubuntu is also nice.
[22:16] <Queuetip> is there a way to apt-get update just 1 package?
[22:16] <VNC-Server-user> userone: sudo apt-get install lubuntu
[22:16] <Queuetip> without having to update all of them?
[22:17] <VNC-Server-user> Queuetip:  sudo apt-get install package-name                 <---- YES, again.
[22:17] <userone> i read some reviews which said xubuntu is also getting a little bloated. i have a beast of a laptop to run ubuntu, i use the netbook only for casual work
[22:17] <VNC-Server-user> Queuetip: And that's how to update one package.
[22:17] <Queuetip> ohhhh that's right
[22:17] <Queuetip> thanks
[22:17] <VNC-Server-user> :+)
[22:17] <userone> lubuntu uses pcmanfm so i will see how that works out
[22:18] <VNC-Server-user> userone: SOunds like a good idea.
[22:18] <Queuetip> not very intuitive, but yeah :P
[22:18] <VNC-Server-user> userone: & whiole at it, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:18] <VNC-Server-user> I think I said "lubuntu-desktop"
[22:19] <userone> thanks, i will try the suggestions...lets see is #lubuntu people are as helpful as #ubuntu (we are all one happy family....)
[22:20] <VNC-Server-user> userone: Otherwise, you can try lxde support chat.
[22:21] <userone> thanks...bye
[22:24] <wolfmitchell> Lol
[22:24] <vacho> who is the GUI designer for ubuntu?
[22:24] <vacho> what a moron :)
[22:24] <vacho> what good comes out of hiding the scroll bars on a page?? seriously.
[22:25] <wolfmitchell> I found a BASIC interpeter for Ubuntu, source only. There is no makefile, and the files have a ".lolz" extention.
[22:25] <wolfmitchell> EPIC FILE'
[22:25] <wolfmitchell> *FAIL
[22:25] <Der_Tiger> I agree, it is an 'EPIC FILE!'
[22:25] <brontosaurusrex> vacho, screen estate, is that a quziz?
[22:25] <brontosaurusrex> quiz
[22:25] <reisio> vacho: that might be GNOME's doing
[22:26] <zatan> is there anyway I can move nautilus back button on to left side ?
[22:30] <aaa> just updated to 11.10, and lost the menus on the top (applications, locations, system). how do i get it back?
[22:30] <VNC-Server-user> Anyone by any chance now why OpenOffice got replaced with libre?
[22:30] <VNC-Server-user> That app was so mach simple to find the common office tasks in.
[22:30] <reisio> VNC-Server-user: oracle bought it, and they suck
[22:30] <VNC-Server-user> In Libre, I'm lost.
[22:30] <reisio> VNC-Server-user: it should be mostly the same
[22:30] <graingert> VNC-Server-user: it's the same
[22:30] <graingert> VNC-Server-user: it's basically the same code with a different name
[22:31] <VNC-Server-user> graingert: Not the default stuff, my friend and I couldn't find how to change font color on the fly.
[22:31] <graingert> VNC-Server-user: it's not like it's got a ribbon or anything
[22:31] <VNC-Server-user> And I did found it, but it's not -simple-
[22:31] <aaa> anyone on?
[22:31] <VNC-Server-user> Like Open Office.
[22:31] <graingert> VNC-Server-user: erm that's probably because you moved it
[22:31] <Der_Tiger> aaa, I believe on the logon screen.  You can choose the GNOME style to classic.
[22:31] <graingert> it's in the same place for me
[22:31] <Der_Tiger> I don't know if that changed.
[22:31] <VNC-Server-user> graingert: No, this is live CD, I do not even have this installed.
[22:32] <aaa> NVM, i'll try again later
[22:32] <graingert> fresh install
[22:32] <graingert> and I can see it
[22:32] <graingert> 3rd button from the right
[22:32] <alien__> is there a application that dim my light,is not working on keyboard or anywhere else on the system
[22:33] <graingert> VNC-Server-user: it's on the "Formatting" Toolbar
[22:33] <odin_> what is the best channel to discusss package management in ubuntu ?  i.e. issues concerning packaging
[22:33] <blackbuntu> how can i tell find to ignore upper or lower cases
[22:34] <odin_> blackbuntu, what is your current command line ?
[22:34] <blackbuntu> say i want to find *.txt  how can i also find *.TXT  or tXt etc
[22:34] <odin_> blackbuntu, find . -iname "*.txt"
[22:34] <blackbuntu> gnome terminal
[22:34] <blackbuntu> but how can i make it not care weither its upper or lower case odin
[22:35] <odin_> find as in /usr/bin/find ?
[22:35] <blackbuntu> yes that is correct odin
[22:35] <haylo-bot> i think that linu is always case sensitive but i may be wrong here
[22:35] <odin_> there is -name and -iname, -path and -ipath
[22:36] <odin_> blackbuntu, find . -iname "*.txt"
[22:36] <qin> blackbuntu: man find | less -p -iname
[22:36] <VNC-Server-user> graingert: But I do not see how it can be easy for a window's user to simply pick out a font color. (Seriously. C'mon)
[22:36] <blackbuntu> odin so find . -iname ".txt" will help find all .txt weither its upper or lower case correct?
[22:36] <odin_> blackbuntu, yes from the current directory and below
[22:37] <blackbuntu> perfect odin..how can i find certain words within a man page...say i wanted to find the words -iname in the man page how can i do that..my guess is using grep but how could u go about that
[22:38] <odin_> blackbuntu, mean how to use "less" and read "man less"
[22:39] <odin_> blackbuntu, basic search is started with a "/" key and type in part of the match press return, so "/iname<return>"
[22:39] <choel> blackbuntu, man nano | grep duck
[22:40] <brontosaurusrex> and "apropos duck" to search all mans
[22:41] <blackbuntu> odin aaahh excellent /iname worked great..how long have u been using linux for?
[22:41] <brontosaurusrex> there is no duck btw
[22:41] <choel> brontosaurusrex, sure it is.
[22:41] <blackbuntu> choel that was ok but it didnt really do what i expected
[22:41] <brontosaurusrex> not here
[22:41] <devlin> So! I finally got my Ubuntu installed on my HP Pavilion g6.  :D
[22:42] <odin_> blackbuntu, 18 years
[22:42] <sanduz2> does anyone know how to check what version of GTK is currently running? im on 11.10
[22:42] <blackbuntu> do u work with linux or computers?
[22:42] <blackbuntu> odin do u work with linux or computers?
[22:42] <devlin> Was having problems installing Oneiric on my laptop here so I went back and installed Natty and it installed & ran perfectly. (Currently running Natty and installing the proprietary drivers I need)
[22:43] <devlin> Should have no problem upgrading to 11.10 after the drivers are installed right?
[22:43] <choel> blackbuntu, just glad ju got the answer you looked for by odin_
[22:43] <soreau> sanduz2: Try something like 'dpkg -l|grep gtk2' to view installed gtk2 packages
[22:44] <sanduz2> soreau, i thought ubuntu 11.10 with unity ran on gtk3?
[22:44] <blackbuntu> choel thanks
[22:45] <sanduz2> can someone tell me if Ubuntu 11.10 default runs Gtk 2 or Gtk 3?
[22:45] <blackbuntu> anyone knows a good chat where one coudl talk about network securities at will
[22:46] <sanduz2> why is this room so dead?
[22:46] <soreau> sanduz2: grep it for gtk3 then
[22:46] <alien__> backlight not dimming,,is there a driver or something for that,is the only issue stoping me from installing ubuntu to my HD
[22:46] <reisio> sanduz2: the virus
[22:46] <sanduz2> soreau, now im confused though. i dont know if its running gtk 2 or 3? :P
[22:46] <blackbuntu> what is a symbolic link
[22:47] <soreau> sanduz2: Try dpkg -l|egrep "gtk2|gtk3"
[22:47] <sanduz2> soreau, looks like i have packages for both
[22:49] <vevais> hello
[22:49] <vevais> Is there any way to keep my alsamixer-settings?
[22:49] <vevais> Because the mic-boost jumps up and down while talking
[22:50] <kill_joy> hello all
[22:50] <soreau> sanduz2: yep, looks like libgtk 2 and 3 packages are available
[22:50] <sanduz2> weird
[22:50] <soreau> sanduz2: try grepping for libgtk
[22:50] <sanduz2> k
[22:51] <sanduz2> both again lol
[22:51] <lolwut> Has anyone had any trouble with the network manager in 11.10? I can't get it to work properly. Upon login I have no network connection and the only way I can get it to work is to ifdown then ifup the interface. Once I have my wireless card up I have Internet access but the network manage still says "device not ready"
[22:51] <tomodachi> what are these nvidia-post release updates i find in the additional drivers menu?
[22:51] <hal> does anyone have any recommendations of a good image viewer that I could try, please, to replace eye of gnome?
[22:52] <kill_joy> Does anybody know what this means?   sudo ngrep -wi -d any 'user|password' port 80  <---- seems like someone was trying to get my password..?
[22:52] <reisio> hal: gnome-sushi?
[22:52] <nes|>  /part
[22:53] <hal> reisio: something in the repos would be good
[22:53] <reisio> is
[22:53] <hal> reisio: I mean would be preferable
[22:53] <kill_joy> I thought that gnome-sushi was just to preview files
[22:53] <hal> kill_joy: that's what I want - what additional functionality do you mean?
[22:54] <kill_joy> I thought you were looking for something more along the lines of F-spot
[22:55] <hal> kill_joy: no, just something like eye of gnome, but preferably faster, better interface and...that works properly on my system ;)
[22:55] <kill_joy> Oh, I misunderstood
[22:56] <hal> kill_joy: I have trouble with eye of gnome - if one image is already open when you open an image, it opens the image but you can't see it - it just gives a gray area
[22:57] <qin> kill_joy: Where did you get those ngrep command?
[22:57] <kill_joy> btw.... do you (hal) know what "sudo ngrep -wi -d any 'user|password' port 80" would be doing in my bash history?  I'm the only one lives here.  It's creepy
[22:57] <White--> Does chrome for linux not have flash support built-in?
[22:57] <graingert> tomodachi: they are beta versions
[22:57] <graingert> tomodachi: it's best not to bother with them and go for the recommended release version
[22:57] <smw> White--, I believe it does
[22:57] <graingert> unless there is a particular support
[22:57] <robin0800> White--, only the 32bit one
[22:57] <kill_joy> I scanned for rootkits and worm/trojans and found nothing.... and my system is running fine
[22:57] <graingert> White--: it does not, as that would be bad
[22:58] <smw> graingert, are you sure?
[22:58] <qin> kill_joy: If you have "alien" command in own bash history, you are already owned.
[22:58] <kill_joy> alien?  I will check
[22:58] <graingert> White--: install flashplugin-installer
[22:58] <smw> graingert, can you point me to docs that say that?
[22:58] <hal> kill_joy: yes I would tend to agree with qin  - how else could it get there
[22:58] <qin> kill_joy: alien means not typed by you
[22:58] <graingert> smw: the version for windows includes flash
[22:58] <Ober> so if I run the default ubuntu wm from gdm the resolution auto-adjusts. however on other window managers xrandr does not list the max resolution at all. is there some command that can be run from gnome to effect the same thing?
[22:58] <tomodachi> graingert: thanks for the tip! (but to late now ;) we will see after the reboot!
[22:59] <White--> graingert, thanks, hat the other flash package installed but that didnt actually hook into it
[22:59] <smw> graingert, as does the one for mac... are you sure it does not have it for linux?
[22:59] <robin0800> graingert, the confusion is 32bit does and 64bit doesn't
[22:59] <ben_q> hey there, is there something newer than "aften" to create ac3 streams from wav-files?
[22:59] <smw> robin0800, ah
[22:59] <kill_joy> oh ok...so, it would have to have alien before the command?
[22:59] <graingert> White--: that one will be the old 32bit 10 one
[23:00] <graingert> White--: apt://flashplugin-installer will install the 11 64bit one
[23:00] <qin> kill_joy: No, alien ment - not typed by you!
[23:00] <omni_> Can anyone tell me the default expiration for users in PAM? (how many days until the user is required to change their password)
[23:00] <qin> kill_joy: btw, ngrep need root to run...
[23:00] <smw> omni_, never
[23:01] <kill_joy> strange..... I never typed that and it's there.   I'm almost scared to keep my internet up.
[23:01] <qin> kill_joy: Reinstall
[23:01] <omni_> smw, thought that might be the case, thank you.
[23:01] <kill_joy> yeah, I guess you're right
[23:02] <robin0800> graingert, I found it easier to go to adobe site and after you selct it it opens in the software centre
[23:02] <omni_> smw, by chance do you know the command to change that to expire in 90 days?
[23:02] <kill_joy> I didn't want to go to that extreme, but I guess you can't be too cautious.
[23:02] <smw> omni_, probably a config file, not a cmd. And I think it is set per user...
[23:03] <qin> kill_joy: What services do you run? ssh ftp www?
[23:03] <smw> omni_, I am guessing the ubuntu user management gui can handle it
[23:03] <kill_joy> regular old www
[23:03] <omni_> smw, we have a few users and i was hoping to do a global change instead of one at a time :\ i'll keep looking ty tho.
[23:03] <kill_joy> I just decided to type "history" into the terminal for shitz and saw a bunch of strange things.
[23:03] <qin> kill_joy: If you want, drop your logs, so maybe we can figure if and when it happened.
[23:04] <White--> cool graingert, worked :) thanks
[23:04] <kill_joy> ok, qin.... where to drop them?
[23:06] <qin> kill_joy: paste.ubuntu.com, or mail to me, also: history; w; sudo netstat -tulp; ps aux;
[23:06] <kill_joy> ok
[23:06] <White--> When I want to gedit a file as root, is there a good way to tell gedit to ask me for sudo password and open the file as root?
[23:07] <qin> kill_joy: And: lastlog;
[23:07] <reisio> White--: I suggest learning how to use a terminal based editor for such tasks
[23:07] <kill_joy> ok
[23:07] <reisio> nano, vim, etc.
[23:07] <itaylor57> White--,  gksudo gedit
[23:08] <qin> White--: gksudo gedit (but: sudo vim is more noble way to do it)
[23:08] <White--> k thanks guys :)
[23:08] <SetiAmon> anyone have a issue with dual monitors in gnome3-shell ?
[23:08] <SetiAmon> like i open firefox and it moves it to my secondary monitor(even though it opens on my primary monitor)
[23:08] <itaylor57> qin, sudo vi is more manly
[23:08] <reisio> and sudo vim is more sanely
[23:09] <qin> itaylor57: Well.
[23:09] <SetiAmon> oh btw yarbause sound doesn't work,anyone use yarbause
[23:09] <itaylor57> qin, I meant more nerdy
[23:11] <Markus__> hi
[23:11] <alien__> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet acpi_osi=Linux acpi_backlight=vendor splash"
[23:12] <alien__> the line where it says vendor,,do i have to put my model,or what ?  thats a fix for my backlicht,,is not working,im looking fofr a fix
[23:12] <SetiAmon> anyone run Yarbause or emulators in linux
[23:13] <reisio> yarbause?
[23:14] <escott> alien__, probably
[23:14] <soreau> reisio: apparently a sega saturn emulator
[23:14] <soreau> ! anyone | SetiAmon
[23:14] <xo0t> I have a lot of logs. I'm wondering if it's safe to just rm -rf * all of /var/log without breaking anything..?
[23:15] <escott> xo0t, you should be adding your logs to logrotate.d
[23:15] <reisio> oh?
[23:15] <reisio> echo the dolphin? :p
[23:15] <reisio> or was that genesis
[23:15] <reisio> codenames ftl
[23:15] <FloodBot1> reisio: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:15] <reisio> FloodBot1: please die :p
[23:15] <soreau> heh
[23:16] <qin> xo0t: rsyslog and logrotate is better
[23:16] <alien__> escott, what command do i run so i can copy the vendor info,,i dont want to mess up
[23:17] <escott> alien__, you should be looking at things like lspci and lshw to try and identify your hardware. usually there will be documentation files with the kernel that will say what strings can be put in for "vendor" in the kernels backlight option
[23:18] <Markus__> how do i make a porn website?
[23:18] <LedHed> lol
[23:18] <soreau> ! ot | Markus__
[23:18] <LedHed> take a video camera and point it at a college coed
[23:18] <LedHed> oops
[23:18] <reisio> Markus__: Pornbuntu
[23:19] <blackhats> ./bye
[23:19] <Markus__> what
[23:19] <LedHed> is there a way to blink a drive light on a failed MD drive?
[23:20] <graingert> Markus__: try wholesailers
[23:20] <Markus__> how do you get rid of an hdd passowrd?
[23:20] <graingert> Markus__: depends on the hard drive
[23:20] <kill_joy> so, qin... as you can see ... there's not much there (upon further review) but I still didn't type the commands.
[23:20] <graingert> and if you know the password
[23:20] <alien__> escott, can i pastebin that to u ? im kind of real lost,,if you can of course
[23:20] <graingert> alien__: go fer it
[23:21] <graingert> ubuntupaste is better though
[23:21] <alien__> how do i use ubuntupaste
[23:21] <Markus__> @graingert i know the password
[23:21] <Markus__> its a normal toshiba one
[23:22] <escott> alien__, what link are you following that is telling you to use this backlight=vendor option. that should have more specifics about what can be put there
[23:22] <graingert> Markus__: my client does not highlight @graingert
[23:22] <Markus__> alright
[23:22] <graingert> alien__: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:22] <Markus__> but i need to remove that stupid thing
[23:22] <alien__> http://pastebin.com/Y8XTqfFC
[23:22] <graingert> Markus__: that's probably a question for toshiba
[23:22] <kill_joy> http://paste.ubuntu.com/719276/
[23:22] <Markus__> #toshiba ?
[23:23] <graingert> Markus__: no as in their own support contact
[23:23] <Markus__> nah
[23:23] <Markus__> 700 dollars they want
[23:23] <Markus__> ~julius
[23:23] <alien__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/719279/
[23:24] <bkfitz> ..
[23:24] <graingert> alien__: oh backlight=vendor is a fix I have to apply to my laptop
[23:24] <graingert> alien__: what's the device?
[23:24] <graingert> mine is an eee 1015PE
[23:25] <alien__> i have a gateway M-Series
[23:25] <symaxian> How do you disable nautilus from drawing the background in oneiric
[23:25] <graingert> alien__: do you know where to make the effort
[23:25] <graingert> change*
[23:26] <alien__> escott, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Gateway_LT2005u
[23:27] <Fudge> hi im trying to find on cdimages.ubuntu.com a x86 cd image of ubuntu 10.04.2, not 10.04.2, anyone know if its provided?
[23:27] <sgflt> can anyone tell me whether it is possible to switch off a discrete GPU (nvidia card) and only use the IGP (like intel's sandy bridge integrated graphics)?
[23:28] <yagoo> Fudge, re-question yourself.
[23:28] <Shane_AU> howdy
[23:28]  * yagoo "x86 cd image of ubuntu 10.04.2, not 10.04.2"
[23:28] <escott> alien__, its just "vendor" nothing specific https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[23:28] <yagoo> ^.
[23:28] <yagoo> parse error.
[23:28] <japro> hi, what would be the easiest way to make a video file from a crapton of numbered jpegs?
[23:29] <escott> alien__, it just says "ignore the bios claiming it can talk to the backlight and talk directly to it"
[23:29] <graingert> japro: mplayer has a solution for this
[23:29] <reisio> Fudge: http://www.google.com/search?q="ubuntu-10.04.2-desktop-i386.iso"
[23:29] <sgflt> japro, from my experience, there isn't an easy way. mencoder might do what you want though
[23:29] <escott> sgflt, bumblee vgaswitcheroo
[23:29] <graingert> japro: http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/menc-feat-enc-images.html
[23:30] <alien__> escott, but does it fix de dimming,im willing to try anything at this point before i go blind  :)
[23:30] <graingert> japro: they will need to be in ls order
[23:30] <graingert> japro: or use a text file to say the list
[23:30] <escott> alien__, i dont know how it will work on your system. you can try it and see.
[23:31] <alien__> escott, so the vendor part stays like that,,no changes to the line
[23:31] <Fudge> reisio  thats the ticket thanx heaps, didnt think to use the full name
[23:31] <sgflt> escott, does that require specific features from the GPU? it mentions notebooks. i can't test it at all, because i haven't ordered the system yet. i am also going for the low-hanging fruit, i simply want it shut off, as i'll only be using the card on windows for gaming.
[23:31] <reisio> Fudge: cheating ftw
[23:32] <sgflt> escott, i've found some notes via google on how to disable hardware through sysfs though
[23:32] <escott> alien__, thats how i read it
[23:32] <alien__> escott, i install it on a USB,im on it now,,just for safe fix the issue,not live,,i dont mind a mistake
[23:32] <alien__> tahnks
[23:32] <graingert> sgflt: try it on a live cd
[23:32] <graingert> sgflt: in PC world
[23:33] <graingert> sgflt: they are often cool with that
[23:33] <escott> sgflt, for a desktop system it should be easier, as there isn't much integration. it should just be a matter of hooking up to the video cards ports not the motherboards. worst case i suspect you need to hand configure your xorg.conf
[23:33] <sgflt> graingert, no brick-and-mortar stores around here, i think, that'd have that kind of setup available
[23:33] <graingert> sgflt: hmm
[23:33] <sgflt> escott, that's what i'm thinking/hoping as well
[23:34] <graingert> sgflt: you might want to wait for Windows 8 if you are getting a new system
[23:34] <graingert> unless you _really_ need it
[23:34]  * yagoo thinks graingert is trolling " sgflt: you might want to wait for Windows 8 if you are getting a new system"
[23:34] <sgflt> graingert, windows 7 plays my games just fine though and i want to yesterday :P. but what makes the wait worth it (i get free windows licenses through the university btw)
[23:34] <yagoo> Windows 8 is being recommended here? why not get lost graingert?
[23:34] <graingert> sgflt: go for it then
[23:34] <sgflt> yagoo, he'll recommend fedora next =)
[23:35] <reisio> sgflt: the university you pay to attend?
[23:35] <sgflt> graingert, no offense, just kidding =)
[23:35] <japro> graingert, thank you, that worked perfectly
[23:35] <graingert> yagoo: he said he wanted windows
[23:35] <sgflt> reisio, in germany, there's no tuition. well almost none =)
[23:35] <reisio> I bet your tuition/room/board/etc. is somewhat more costly than $150
[23:35] <yagoo> graingert, then you tell them to leave
[23:35] <graingert> yagoo: stop being a troll and start being helpful
[23:35] <sgflt> reisio, it's "sponsored" (because it's expensive to hand out those licenses, you know), but mainly for CS students. apparently, they want them to get hooked on windows
[23:35] <reisio> sgflt: because when you pay taxes you pay tuition
[23:36] <graingert> sgflt: do you get "free" electricity
[23:36] <reisio> yeah
[23:36] <yagoo> graingert, if you want to be HELPFUL-- at least convince people to SWITCH.
[23:36] <yagoo> ignoramus
[23:36] <reisio> so basically German taxes pay Microsoft, awesome
[23:36] <sgflt> reisio, i don't think the university pays for the MSDN AA
[23:36] <reisio> sgflt: somebody does
[23:38] <sgflt> reisio, why does someone need to pay for it?
[23:38] <texas> Hey yall i need some help with my broadcom wireless card
[23:38] <texas> anyone game
[23:38] <reisio> sgflt: because Microsoft doesn't give it away for free
[23:38] <sgflt> reisio, why wouldn't they give it free to CS students at a university? seems like a pretty good investment to me
[23:39] <BaY_GeVeZe> Ben En Ýyisi Ýngilizce'yi Burada Öðreneyim (:
[23:39] <Fudge> lol
[23:39] <reisio> sgflt: because universities are willing to pay for it
[23:39] <reisio> sgflt: and they do
[23:39] <texas> ive checked the forums and cant find anyhting to fix my driver issue
[23:40] <sgflt> reisio, sorry, i'm lost you somewhere. i'm not sure if your argument is a political one or if you're trying to troll me =)
[23:40] <reisio> it's not an argument
[23:40] <yagoo> sgflt, installing games on linux is becoming as simple as a mouse click-- stfu and install ubuntu- u resize ntfs partition with installer and installer will have grub2 do dualboot install
[23:40] <reisio> someone pays for your msdnaa
[23:40] <reisio> if it's not the university, it's the government
[23:40] <reisio> (by way of taxes)
[23:40] <Poeir> My 11.10 upgrade did not go smoothly, so I reinstalled from scratch.  Every time I try to log in via the GUI with my main user account, the screen switches to the init output, then bounces me back to the GUI login.  When I login with an alt account, I can, and my main account can login from the console.  How hsould I go about fixing this?
[23:41] <sgflt> my god :P
[23:41] <nuggie_> question, is there a way to make ubuntu login after rebooting via command line remotely?
[23:41] <reisio> the point being you aren't getting it for free, that is an illusion
[23:42] <sgflt> reisio, sure, w/e
[23:42] <reisio> :p
[23:42] <sam555> which ubuntu desktop should I use if I'm running a poweredige 400SC with 80532 processor, 2.8 g ram?
[23:42] <reisio> sam555: any you like
[23:43] <sam555> reisio: kk, you are so helpful!
[23:43] <sgflt> sam555, do you need 64 bit?
[23:43] <sam555> sgflt: 32bit
[23:43] <rhizmoe> titlebar disappeared, dash is not great. reboot?
[23:43] <rhizmoe> uptime is probably about a week
[23:44] <intelligentfool> so i just booted my laptop and can't see the application menu at the top of the screen, anyone know any keyboard shortcuts to get to a place where i can fix things? i'm on 10.10
[23:44] <sgflt> sam555, hmm, which other choices are there, other than going for LTS or the latest?
[23:44] <rhizmoe> intelligentfool: did you just update?
[23:44] <intelligentfool> yea
[23:44] <rhizmoe> i did, and i have something similar.
[23:44] <intelligentfool> ah, hooray bugs :)
[23:44] <sgflt> intelligentfool, you might be in luck with alt+f2, if that fails ctrl+alt+f1
[23:44] <rhizmoe> is the dash not popping out well, either?
[23:45] <intelligentfool> well i'm on 10.10 on my other machine, so i never had the new unity mess
[23:45] <sgflt> intelligentfool, assuming the easiest fix is "sudo restart gdm" (from the first tty)
[23:45] <intelligentfool> lemme try that sgflt, just rebooted
[23:45] <sgflt> intelligentfool, wait
[23:46] <uhzkm> Hi all, anyone here know much about ruby installation?
[23:46] <reisio> uhzkm: I know between 10 and 75 percent
[23:46] <sam555> sgflt: well, I was deciding on 10 or 9 instead of 11, but now I'm dl'ing 11 alt as reisio had said.  We were having problems seeing the GUI for installation purposes.  We were booting to a usb flash drive and going right to busy box.  So I was just curious if overall my old dell had hardware issues with ubuntu.
[23:46] <sgflt> intelligentfool, oh, nvm. you can switch ttys with ctrl+alt+number, in case you're wondering where your X went, it's probably around 7
[23:46] <smw> !anyone | uhzkm
[23:47] <intelligentfool> i'm using my home machine, but i need to get the broken one fixed for work in the morning :)
[23:47] <reisio> sam555: server hardware probably isn't a priority for the desktop image's graphics autoconfigurators
[23:47] <rhizmoe> sudo gdm restart did not work for mine, fyi
[23:47] <sgflt> sam555, in general, there's two guidelines, i'd say: if it's a "business"-kind of machine (rarely doing crazy stuff, basic work) and you do not need the latest software, LTS is an excellent choice
[23:47] <intelligentfool> hmm, i just rebooted and it came back. i had just played with the themes, not sure what fixed it though
[23:47] <sgflt> sam555, but if your hardware is more recent, you might want to get the latest version, as it comes with a newer kernel (and with that, better support for newer hardware)
[23:47] <Alperen> my usb drive wont mount here is the dmesg and lsusb output how can i fix it? http://pastebin.com/4jsNTiZP
[23:47] <uhzkm> alright, this is what i'm trying to do... #!/bin/bash cd /tmp wget http://ftp.ruby-lang.org/pub/ruby/1.9/ruby-1.9.2-p290.tar.gz tar xvzf ruby-1.9.2-p290.tar.gz cd ruby-1.9.2-p290 ./configure --prefix=/usr\             --program-suffix=1.9.2\             --with-ruby-version=1.9.2\             --disable-install-doc make sudo checkinstall -D -y\                   --fstrans=no\                   --nodoc\                   --pkgname='ruby1.
[23:48] <ikonia> uhzkm: you dont want to do that
[23:48] <sgflt> sam555, so, a rough guideline would be to check when the hardware that's in your machine first came out - if it was a at least year old when the last LTS came out, you're good with LTS. less than that, you might have to check.
[23:48] <rhizmoe> or at least use some semicolons
[23:48] <uhzkm> ikonia, why not?
[23:48] <ikonia> uhzkm: actually do what you want.
[23:48] <escott> uhzkm, ruby1.9 is in the repos
[23:48] <rhizmoe> use rvm, actually
[23:49] <White--> Is there a way to constantly show the taskbar (or whatever it is called in ubuntu)?
[23:49] <ikonia> uhzkm: if you want to break your system, thats your issue
[23:49] <uhzkm> I'm trying to set up bigbluebutton on ubuntu server
[23:49] <uhzkm> just following their installation manual
[23:49] <sgflt> uhzkm, i think what he's trying to say is: you should install ruby from the repos. if that fails, at least do not use /usr as the prefix, but stick with /usr/local
[23:49] <sam555> sgflt: good to know!
[23:49] <ikonia> uhzkm: you need to understand, not blindly follow instructions
[23:50] <sgflt> sam555, YMMV though. =)
[23:50] <uhzkm> ikonia, I didn't come here for a lecture, I am fully aware that I need to understand.  Which is why I am learning by doing.  And I am doing this fairly safely within virtualbox..
[23:51] <ikonia> uhzkm: if you don't need a lecture you wouldn't be doing silly things like that blindly.
[23:51] <uhzkm> ikonia, if you'd rather bash me than answer my question that's your business.  if you don't want to be helpful then stop talking to me..
[23:51] <sgflt> uhzkm, i can't offer a lecture, but an explanation: all the files outside of your homes (some exceptions for configuration/temporary files) should be managed by the package system (dpkg, apt)
[23:51] <rhizmoe> uhzkm: use rmv, trust me.
[23:51] <rhizmoe> rvm
[23:51] <ikonia> uhzkm: I'm not bashing you
[23:52] <ikonia> uhzkm: I offered you the suggestion that you didn't want to do that,
[23:52] <rhizmoe> x y problem, otherwise
[23:52] <sgflt> uhzkm, if you run make install with a prefix of /usr, make will overwrite some files (probably /usr/bin/ruby or whatever). that will cause problems later, for example, when updating ruby stuff through the package manager
[23:52] <sgflt> uhzkm, if you use checkinstall, it *might* work, i'm not entirely sure
[23:53] <cache_surplus> hello, i have a 04df:0016 Interlink Electronics HP xb31 dig projector, trying to hook it up with 10.04 LTS. any suggestions? I have it db9'd and usb'd, lsusb is showing 04df:
[23:53] <smw> sgflt, that would cause different problems
[23:53] <sgflt> uhzkm, you can be on the safe side and use a different prefix - the /usr/local prefix often gets used for this
[23:53] <smw> sgflt, and experienced admin would find it a nightmare
[23:53] <intelligentfool> ok so now that i've got my 10.10 machine unscrewed, how do i get rid of this horrible unity mess?
[23:53] <uhzkm> sgflt, so you're saying that i should ignore their instructions and simply let the dpkg and apt do their thing.  but if I do so, will it affect the bigbluebutton installation?
[23:53] <sgflt> uhzkm, if you do that, the binary, for example, would end up in /usr/local/bin/ruby
[23:53] <smw> sgflt, a novice would reinstall after hours of asking for help :-P
[23:54] <ubidoobi> hi all .. is there any channel i can go in to get help with ubuntu installation .. I have been trying to install it for a week now with no success .. ubuntu doesn't seem to want to recognize my HDD ... have tried many many things ... need help ... msg me if you can help ... thanks!
[23:54] <sgflt> smw, not sure what i should reply to that
[23:54] <smw> uhzkm, you are going to need to explain why you are doing this if you expect help.
[23:54] <AkiRa_> Ok- New question before I totally switch back to a functional microsoft operating system-  Ubuntu lags- splits my chat and sends it to other  windows
[23:54] <sgflt> uhzkm, hmm, you need to consider the instructions
[23:55] <smw> sgflt, just saying checkinstall would not help. It would make the problems more annoying
[23:55] <uhzkm> smw, et al this is my goal... http://code.google.com/p/bigbluebutton/wiki/08InstallationUbuntu#Overview
[23:55] <sgflt> uhzkm, i don't know bigbluebutton, but what it seems to need is a working ruby installation. it's not (or should not) depending on anything specific, other than that there is a ruby binary (and associated stuff)
[23:55] <AkiRa_> if im using firefox for online radio or youtube- or if im doing ANYTHING while running wine i get lags and cut outs
[23:55] <robozman> intelligentfool: if you go to the login screen click on your name and don't enter your passworld,  if you look at the bottom there will be ad dropdown menu that says unity.  It you click the arrow it will give you a few choices.  Click gnome to use the classic Ubuntu Desktop.
[23:55] <sgflt> smw, at the very least, when using a different prefix, it makes it easy to get rid of things =)
[23:55] <AkiRa_> driver issue? software issue? linux issue?
[23:55] <sgflt> uhzkm, so, instead of installing ruby (which should be a different step), you could try to install ruby through apt-get
[23:55] <intelligentfool> sweet, thanks robozman
[23:55] <intelligentfool> gonna try that and come back
[23:56] <robozman> kk cool. No Problem
[23:56] <smw> sgflt, very true
[23:56] <robozman> I'm using that right now
[23:56] <haylo-bot_> i dont like operating systems that do everything for me
[23:56] <wolfmitchell> Hey
[23:56] <wolfmitchell> I like hanging out here
[23:56] <texas> anyone here familiar with getting a broadcom wireless card to work with ocelot
[23:56] <robozman> haylo-bot: as in what?
[23:56] <robozman> haylo-bot: ubuntu?
[23:56] <AkiRa_> i understand ubuntu is free- and linux is free- but there is a reason why microsoft charges
[23:57] <haylo-bot_> i am refering to microsoft
[23:57] <AkiRa_> their shit works
[23:57] <sgflt> uhzkm, sudo apt-get install ruby1.9 should do it, for example
[23:57] <uhzkm> sgflt, thank you, seems to be working, hopefully the rest of their install instructions are not dependent on that script
[23:57] <haylo-bot_> there is no auto feature to hack your neighbors wireless for windows
[23:57] <haylo-bot_> is sucky os
[23:57] <ubidoobi> hi all .. is there any channel i can go in to get help with ubuntu installation .. I have been trying to install it for a week now with no success .. ubuntu doesn't seem to want to recognize my HDD ... have tried many many things ... need help ... msg me if you can help ... thanks!
[23:57] <robozman> AkiRa: works well for only doing the simplest of tasks.  Otherwise, for me, its plain annoying
[23:57] <sgflt> uhzkm, they really shouldn't. if they are in a non-trivial way, i would reconsider using the software =)
[23:57] <robozman> hi ubuntu
[23:57] <ubuntu> ola
[23:57] <uhzkm> sgflt, good point.
[23:57] <ikonia> haylo-bot_: what are you talking about
[23:57] <ubuntu> povo
[23:58] <sgflt> uhzkm, just try one thing, once the install is done, type in   ruby --version
[23:58] <Ashfire908> Hello, I need to move a extended partition but I don't know how to move the lvm physical volume inside. What's the process for moving a physical volume?
[23:58] <texas> so i upgraded from 11.04 and now my wirelse doesnt work so how would i do a fresh install
[23:58] <uhzkm> sgflt, it gave the desired version response, i dunno why dpkg thought it was 1.9.1 when the result was 1.9.2
[23:58] <AkiRa_> whats funny is the developers cannot be reached by any means- and yes ubuntu can only handle the simplist of tasks
[23:58] <AkiRa_> and they are about to charge !
[23:59] <Alperen> my usb drive wont mount here is the dmesg and lsusb output how can i fix it? http://pastebin.com/4jsNTiZP
[23:59] <sgflt> uhzkm, oh, they need >= 1.9.2 ?
[23:59] <AkiRa_> how do you charge someone for something that doesn't even work
[23:59] <sgflt> uhzkm, i only checked for 1.9 vs 1.8
[23:59] <AkiRa_> rediculous
[23:59] <Pici> AkiRa_: Feel free to log a bug if you think there is a particular package that is at fault.
[23:59] <sgflt> uhzkm, i'm still on 1.9.0 on my LTS
[23:59] <sgflt> =)
[23:59] <robozman> texas: Its pretty easy to get most wireless chips to work, just google it.  If you are really intent on a fresh install you are going to have to burn a new disk and delete your current intsallation in the process of installing your new one.
[23:59] <ikonia> AkiRa_: what are you talking about now ?
[23:59] <Pici> AkiRa_: But please keep in mind that this is a support channel and that we are all volunteers here.
[23:59] <uhzkm> sgflt, supposedly requires 1.9.2, but that's what i got from the apt install anyway
[23:59] <ikonia> AkiRa_: this channel is an Ubuntu support discussion channel, does your conversation fit into that ?