swoopersup peopple00:33
swooperhmm everyone be sleeping00:35
swooperwell i had a couple of suggestions/feedback about xubuntu00:38
swooperi suppose i should just become a tester then00:38
ultimahello guys!00:39
ultimaI have a dude with wich release of xubuntu is the better.. is stable00:40
ultimaI'm trying the last now but I have a lot of problem wtf00:40
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swooperwhats up ?00:42
swooperyou ahve a dude?00:42
swoopersup bud00:43
ultimayes the problem is that the last version Xubuntu 11.10 and also the 11.04 have some problems ...00:44
ultimafor example at startup I have black screen for 30 seconds!! and after that the norma llogin00:44
ultimaso strange!!00:44
swooperwhat sort of hardware do yo uhave?00:44
swooperie, what are your specs?00:44
swooperand you had no troubles in previous versions?00:45
ultimaI have a laptop.. an Acer TravelMate with Intel Core 2 Duo 2 Ghz... 2GB DDR200:45
ultimain the 8.10 a not have this problmes00:46
swooperWhat graphics card do have?00:46
ultimavga ati radeon00:46
swooper*shudder* ati00:46
ultimaI know how configure xorg.conf for my card and so I think that the problem is not the video card.... but I don't know what!! I think the new kernel....00:47
ultimaI don't know wtf00:47
well_laid_lawnprobably just needs a kernel option at boot00:48
swooperhaha okay, well im new to xubuntu etc, however, sounds liek a config issue00:48
ultimawhat type of option for the kernel???00:48
swooperseems like other people are havign the same issue00:49
ultimabecause all works fine... less the startup!!  I have to wait 30-40 seconds in black screen from grub till login screen ..... so strange!!00:49
ultimabut after that all is fine (sorry for my english but is not my mothertongue)00:49
swooperthat link has a tutorial on it00:50
ultimaok now I'll read it.. thanks! ;)00:50
swooperno worries00:51
swooperwhether benefit or not, xubuntu can possibly use solutions from ubuntu threads and xubuntu threads00:51
swooperlooks liek its a xubuntu specific bug of some sort00:52
ultimaokok thank you very much... now I reboot and try second option you send me ;)00:54
ultimaI'll come back soon !!00:54
swooperhahah no worries00:55
swooperknights of xubuntu00:55
swooper..la la laaa01:05
ultimano work for me..01:09
ultimaanybody can help me? Or only tell me what is the problem? kernel, xorg and driver video.. or I don't know what..01:10
ultimaMy problem is: I have 30-40 seconds black screen after grub and before the login screen.. because is this the strange thing, that after 40 seconds of black screen start the login screen and all works good!!!01:12
K4khi, after an unclean shutdown I can no longer load my desktop in 11.10. only indication of a problem is in /var/log/Xorg.0.log i see a line "power button: close" any ideas?01:12
well_laid_lawnK4k: what do you mean by "can no longer load my desktop" and "only indication of a problem..." ?01:40
well_laid_lawndoes the login screen show?01:40
K4kwell_laid_lawn: sorry for the delay, the problem is at login the screen flickers and goes back to the login rather than to desktop02:16
K4kI've been looking at /var/log/audit.log /var/log/Xorg.0.log and there is some output from Xorg -configure. I was able to get startx to load xfce if I 'modprobe radeon'. I think somhow X got mixed up and is trying to load fglrx which I've never had installed (as far as I know)02:18
well_laid_lawnK4k: the X log should tell you if that's happening02:19
K4kXorg.0.log doesn't show any definitive errors. I'm booting it back up now, I'll post up the errors I do see when running startx right after boot02:19
well_laid_lawnI meant it will tell you what drivers it's using02:20
well_laid_lawnor trying to02:21
K4khmm, let me double check02:21
K4kwell_laid_lawn: so what I've done is generated an xorg.conf and am manually calling the radeon driver. This gets startx to load xfce successfully02:23
K4kthe login manager, however, does not02:23
K4kThe error I see in audit.log is....02:23
well_laid_lawnK4k: you shouldn't need a xorg.conf these days - try renaming ~/.conf and try the login screen again02:24
well_laid_lawnthe X log also tells what config dir/file it is using02:25
K4k"[system[ Rejected send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.40" (uid=104 pid=2590 comm="lightdm-gtk-greeter" ") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" member="GetAll" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination=":1.14" (uid=0 pid=1287 comm="/usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon ")02:26
craigbass1976is there something by default that would lock me out if I got my GUI password wrong too many times?02:26
K4klightdm: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user "myusername"02:26
K4kcraigbass1976: I don't believe there is in a default install02:27
well_laid_lawnK4k: that says you didn't give a password02:27
K4kwell_laid_lawn: well, I did02:27
K4kI can login to console just fine02:27
craigbass1976I click my name, type my pass, see a black screen (with a smidgen of text flashing) for a split second, then land back at the login screen.  A new user I just set up doens't have this problem at all.02:27
craigbass1976I can log in via terminal with no problems02:28
K4kcraigbass1976: that sounds identical to my issue02:28
well_laid_lawn try renaming ~/.config and try the login screen again02:28
craigbass1976well_laid_lawn, nope.  SHould I have rebooted first?02:29
K4kwell_laid_lawn: I mv'd ~/.config to ~/.config.old and moved /etc/X11/xorg.conf (the one I made) to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.old and the same thing happens02:29
K4kcraigbass1976: did you update recently?02:30
well_laid_lawnyou both should logout from everywhere02:30
K4kI renamed those files and rebooted02:31
craigbass1976K4k, I believe there was one causing trouble today, but we had other issues at work (a deep paper jam in a very warm laser printer -- a signature pad imploding) and I wasn't paying close attention02:31
craigbass1976well_laid_lawn, like do it from a livecd?02:31
craigbass1976K4k, how'd you make out?02:31
K4kcraigbass1976: still no go02:32
well_laid_lawnno just make sure you move that dir and logout from everywhere then try the login screen again02:32
K4kI'm in tty1 again just making sure I don't have a half done or broken update02:32
craigbass1976K4k, I did have some halfassed updates now that you mntion it, and I did finish them02:33
K4kThe only odd thing I did to this laptop before the problem started was I had to hard reset the system due to a graphics driver quirk with this laptop and suspend that I've been trying to work out02:34
K4khm, I'm getting GPG errors with apt-get update02:38
ubottugpg is the GNU Privacy Guard.  See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts02:39
well_laid_lawnI've got no idea if that'll help...02:39
craigbass1976Is there such a thing as a Windows livecd yet, or are you still pretty much just screwed when something goes haywire?02:47
craigbass1976Sorry, that's offtopic, but it occurred to me as I booted to my livecd...02:48
chickenbonewell_laid_lawn: Man I haven't see you in ages. How are things?02:49
K4kcraigbass1976: if you have a copy of windows xp there is a way to use it to create a BartPE image, it's fairly well documented02:52
K4kin case anyone was wondering, found the fix http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=11382985&postcount=202:55
K4k(for the sig error, not the login error)02:55
craigbass1976K4k, bah... I got all excited...  I tried to move /home/me as root, and voila!  I can log into the GUI.  I'm curious as to what the offensive file is...03:00
K4kcraigbass1976: move /home/me as root to where?03:01
K4klooks like I did have an incomplete update, however, after finishing the update and rebooting I still receive the same error03:01
K4kI stopped lightdm and tty7 has the brief text up on screen, it says: "PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions  saned disabled; edit /etc/default/saned  mountall: Plymouth command failed  mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth" Does that mean anything to anyone?03:06
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craigbass1976K4k, to /home/me.bak03:11
K4kso moving your home directory and allowing the system to re-create it fixed the issue?03:11
K4kthat seems odd03:11
craigbass1976K4k, then recreated me and chowned it gave me:me03:11
craigbass1976chowned it me:me.  Sorry03:12
Gunz4MiPPleif I set compiz to autostart in my xubuntu session, should it be autostarting when I log into Gnome session, which should be gnome shell?03:13
craigbass1976So there's some file screwing me up.  I know it's not .profile (which is what one thread on the uibuntu forums suggested) and not the .config directory as well_laid_lawn had me try.  I could go through each and every file in the old /home/me, but it's too much for now.03:14
K4kI wonder if having my home directory encrypted could have anything to do with this...03:14
craigbass1976K4k, I've heard that causes issues, but mine wasn't encrypted...03:14
K4kI'm thinking this machine actually isn't either, I usually do but it does not appear encrypted at the moment03:15
K4kcraigbass1976: do you have a radeon card?03:24
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Anom01yHi, should Ubuntu 10.04 detect printers being plugged in ? specifically this one -->  brother dcp-7065DN04:37
Anom01ybecause it does not, I've tried resetting the computer, unplugging / plugging it in ect ect.04:37
Anom01yno lick04:37
pleia2it automatically detects my brother laser printer, but it probably depends on the model, have you tried just going to the Printing app and adding it manually?04:38
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cjsWhere is information on my sessions for the Xfce session manager  (xfce4-session) stored?08:30
dirtycookiehi people, i have installed xubuntu freshly on a system with a lan and wlan card08:31
dirtycookienow my question is, how do i tell the system that it should do nothing when inserting a usb-wlan-stick08:32
cjsHm. Looks like in .config/autostart, at least partially?08:33
dirtycookieand another question, i have removed accidentally the wlan sound pidgin indicator beside the date. on the upper right corner. how can i restore that08:34
cjsdirtycookie: That's in the panel. You can right click on the panel, chose "Panel" then "Preferences" from the drop-down menus, and you can then tweak your panel, add new things to it (or old things back), etc.08:35
cjsAs for the usb-wlan stick, I think it should do pretty much nothing by default (except maybe tell you it's been added) when you plug it in. Do you see something different?08:36
dirtycookiecjs: for the adding items part, what is the item called? as 4 the usb-wlan, the stick gets automatically an ip and i end up with 2 ips on the machine08:37
dirtycookiecjs: i solved the panel part08:40
dirtycookienow i need only help with the usb-wlan stick08:41
cjsHm. Well, you can manually disconnect the USB stick by clicking on the networking icon in the panel, right?08:49
zushow is everyone?08:49
cjsIt might be easiest just to let it do what it does, though; the second "connection" should be harmless.08:49
zuswhich folder would i put a folder of icons (themes) so that i may choose a theme at will?08:50
dirtycookiecjs: true but i have other plans08:51
dirtycookiewith it08:51
cjsdirtycookie: In that case, can you set up your new connection in Network Manager, and make it an autoconnect one? Or will it end up using the internal for that?08:51
cjsAh. Network Manager has a "Device MAC address" box that lets you lock a connection to a specific device.08:53
cjsSo set up an auto connection locked to that device, and I suspect that wil come up automatically when you insert the USB WiFi dongle.08:53
dirtycookiecjs: i will try that08:54
cjsI presume you know enough about network that you know what you're doing when dealing with a host with multiple interfaces.08:54
dirtycookiecjs: yea i do, and im used to edit the interfaces file and do things manually. that is all08:54
cjsAh, ok. You'll be pleased to know that all the NetworkManager stuff is still under /etc if you chose "share with everybody on this comptuer" or whatever that option is, so it's still pretty comprehensible and manageable with etckeeper and all.08:55
dirtycookiecjs: do u know btw how to change the font and font-size of the embedded terminal of gedit08:55
cjsNot off-hand; I'm a vim user.08:55
dirtycookieah k08:56
dirtycookiecjs: the reason that im asking is that i have a eeepc with a small screen size and need therefore a smaller font08:56
dirtycookieprolly you can help08:57
cjsVim in xterm will give you a nice small font. :-)08:57
cjsdirtycookie: in general, you might start with the DPI of your screen under "Appearance" in the settings manager. That will affect a lot of stuff.08:57
dirtycookiecjs: is not my machine that is y and the people @ #gnome are sleeping prolly08:58
cjsThat DPI is for your account only; it will not affect anybody else.08:58
cjsHang on, got to leave and come back due to messed-up fonts....08:59
dirtycookiecjs: ok one last thing, i need the taskbar in the top pane back, how do i do that??09:00
dirtycookiei know add item but which one09:00
cjsThe taskbar. Hm. What did that do?09:01
cjsOh, show a list of running windows?09:01
cjsMy guess is that would be "Window Buttons," but I'm not sure. I don't use it.09:02
cjsThere's also a "Window Menu" one, too.09:02
dirtycookieah cool was windows buttons09:03
cjsWow. All this help from me, and I've only been using Xfce for a few days. :-)09:04
zuswhich folder does a folder for icon themes go into so that i can change them at will?09:05
well_laid_lawnzus: put it in ~/.icons09:12
cjsHibernating. Good luck, dirtycookie.09:13
dirtycookiecjs: thanks09:14
zuswell_laid_lawn,  thank you,09:16
well_laid_lawncheers :)09:16
dirtycookieah... another question, where do i change to monospace font??09:17
zuswell_laid_lawn,  i had to create the .icons folder. but it worked. now were i to change one or two icons from a theme already in the lists, where can i find that folder?09:24
well_laid_lawnzus: have a look in /usr/share/icons maybe09:25
well_laid_lawndirtycookie: change the font in what app?09:25
dirtycookiethe embedded terminal of gedit09:26
dirtycookiexubuntu has my desired font and font-size but the embedded terminal has a different font-size09:26
well_laid_lawni've no idea I don't use gedit09:26
well_laid_lawnmight be more gedit users in #ubuntu09:27
dirtycookiei went to the irc channel of gedit and they said that i "need to set the monospace font size"09:27
dirtycookieso where do i do that09:27
zusthanks well_laid_lawn  now i know where to find them. ta!09:30
zacariaswhat's a broken package? How do you solve it?11:57
TheSheepsolve what?12:05
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Guest88682how would i go about adding a program to startup in xubuntu14:56
ablomenGuest88682, settings => session and startup => application autostart => add15:09
Zacariasis it possible to install the latest version of Xfce from Xubuntu 10.10?15:22
aboudreaultHi, is it possible to have a SHOW ALL WINDOWS for xfce4 in xubuntu oneiric?15:35
focaltyo guys16:15
focaltI don't know what's wrong with my system16:15
focaltafter installing a rt-kernel16:15
focaltI get this when sudoing16:15
focaltfocalt is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.16:15
focaltwhat's wrong?16:16
GridCubefocalt: you are trying to su?16:17
GridCubeor to sudo?16:17
focaltor just install something with synaptic16:18
GridCubeyou should ask on #ubuntu-kernel16:19
GridCubei mean its not that i don't want to help you, its just that i dont know16:20
focaltit seams that my username isn't in the admin group16:22
focaltI type groups in the terminal16:22
focaltall I get is focalt audio16:22
GridCuberegroup you16:24
GridCubeyou cant16:24
GridCubebecause your not on the sudoers16:25
genii-aroundfocalt: Was that username the one you made during install? eg: is it's uid 1000 or something more16:26
genii-around( only first user has admin/sudo by default )16:27
focaltgenii-around, yes16:27
focaltit's the only user I created. I created it during system install16:27
focaltgenii-around, I'm not sure how to check the uid...16:28
genii-aroundfocalt: Did you do something like try to add it to another group with usermod -g command ? If you don't use -a ( append ) it makes that group the only one you belong to16:28
focaltyes I did sudo usermod -G audio focalt16:29
genii-aroundfocalt: There's your problem then16:29
focaltgenii-around, what is my workaround?16:32
genii-aroundfocalt: Boot up to recovery, then edit the /etc/group file and put your username back into the correct groups.16:32
focaltgenii-around, admin group should do it no?16:34
genii-aroundfocalt: My default groups here are: mike adm dialout cdrom www-data video plugdev lpadmin admin sambashare           as example. You probably need at least adm/admin video plugdev lpadmin and cdrom16:34
genii-aroundfocalt: Not unless you want to have use admin rights every time to print something or have usb devices detected, etc16:34
VlynCan anyone please help me with getting my java plugin for firefox back? :-( (Xubuntu)17:11
GridCubeVlyn: how it went off?17:13
VlynGridCube: Java suddenly stopped working properly (Firefox freezes). I reinstalled Java but killed the firefox plugin for it. It’s installed again but ff doesn’t recognize it17:14
VlynHow do I tell Firefox to use Java again?17:15
Vlyn(IcedTea I think, couldn’t find the SUN one in the packages)17:15
VlynI already invested an hour for this problem, so don’t think I’m too lazy to google ^^17:16
GridCubeim looking17:16
GridCubeVlyn: tried this: http://www.chayx.net/2011/06/how-to-switch-firefox-java-plugin-to-sun-java-on-ubuntu-linux.html17:18
VlynUhm… I don’t have the Sun Java Plugin17:18
VlynI have IcedTea and the firefox integration is gone17:19
VlynAnd I don’t have Oracle Java17:20
VlynI think…17:20
VlynHmm but lemme try17:21
GridCubeVlyn: apparently if you have two concurrent java engines installed it will cause a lot of problems, check that you are using only one17:22
VlynGridCube: Works, thanks17:22
VlynOr lets say… it works basically17:22
VlynBut the app I want to start doesn’t work17:23
VlynDo you see the contents of the java app at www.knuddels.at?17:23
VlynMaybe it’s a problem with a newer version?17:23
GridCubei do not know17:24
VlynIs it grey for you?17:24
GridCubeits a lot of pink17:25
GridCubereaded this last one? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=177032617:25
VlynHm, yeah17:33
VlynBut there should be a login17:33
VlynNot only pink17:33
VlynGridCube: In the content window (middle of screen) is there only a gray field?17:33
VlynOr a login prompt?17:33
GridCubea loging prompt17:35
GridCubebut im not using xubuntu now17:35
VlynOkay ^^17:35
VlynBut the website works…17:35
GridCubeim at work whit an xp machine :P17:35
GridCubeyes it does17:35
VlynHmm… maybe I should find a way to switch to SUN Java17:35
VlynBut it’s not in the Software Center -.-17:35
Vlynoh wait… found a way i hope17:37
GridCubeyou might need a ppa17:37
GridCube!info java17:37
ubottuPackage java does not exist in oneiric17:37
GridCubethats a ppa yes17:37
Vlynoh, cool ^^17:37
VlynWhat means ppa?17:37
Vlyn(Full text)17:37
genii-aroundPersonal Package Archive17:38
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa17:38
VlynThanks :-)17:38
ubottuSince Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command «  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details17:40
VlynIt works again!17:41
VlynHail Sun Java :-)17:41
VlynThanks guys ^^17:41
dirtycookiehi people, i have the latest version of xubuntu and added gedit with the embedded terminal plugin17:55
dirtycookiealtough i have set a certain font-size, the plugin has a way larger size17:55
voozeI'm trying to run win xp in virtualbox on xubuntu 11.10 but it cant find my GFX card, is there anything im missing in virtualbox?18:02
tsaavikHey all, sometimes when I open a gnome-terminal I get a triangular pull tab at the bottom right (for re-sizing the window), sometimes I don't. Any ideas on how to enable that?18:04
well_laid_lawntsaavik: I have to ask why you choose to use gnome terminal in a xfce environment?18:05
lamontin a similar vein, given xfce installed on top of ubuntu-desktop, hints on how to get screen locking to work?18:06
tsaavikwell_laid_lawn: I'm a gnome refugee. My helper scripts spawn gnome terminals, I can change them. Last terminal I used before gnome was Aterm (yes afterstep, lol), so not sure whats best to use.18:07
tsaaviklamont: mouse -> settings -> screensaver18:08
tsaavik(the little blue mouse that spawns the menu)18:08
well_laid_lawntsaavik: xfce has its' own terminal18:08
lamonttsaavik: yeah... I need something to populate "screensaver" so that it's on th emenu18:09
tsaavikwell_laid_lawn: xfce4-terminal ?18:09
tsaavikah cool, and it has a triange (diffrent one, but it works) thanks18:09
* lamont installs xubuntu-desktop just to get all the bits18:11
tsaaviklamont: oh, you want a button. I think ctrl-alt-del is mapped by default. I added ctrl-alt-l because ctrl-alt-del is kinda a scarey habbit to get used to  :D18:12
lamonthow does one do these mappings in xubuntu?18:14
tsaaviklamont: sorry, was on another window. mouse -> settings ->keyboard -> application shortcuts18:26
tsaavikxflock4 seems to be the lock command18:26
well_laid_lawntsaavik: you'll have to call it the menu not mouse or you'll confuse ppl18:27
well_laid_lawnmost settings are in menu-settings or menu-system18:28
tsaavikhehe, okay, how about 'right click desktop' -> settings -> keybaord -> application shortcuts   :D18:28
well_laid_lawnworks fine ;)18:28
JamesMiddendorffis there a disc management tool in xubuntu?18:29
VlynI want to know that too!18:29
GridCubedisc management?18:29
VlynUbuntu had a really nice one18:29
tsaaviklike a gui for looking around in the filesystems?18:30
GridCubei dont know whats that18:30
VlynDisc Space18:30
JamesMiddendorfftsaavik, like it allows you to format drives and stuff18:30
VlynWhat files you have and so on18:30
VlynLooked like a cake diagram18:30
VlynOh okay, false one :-)18:30
tsaavikdisk usage analyzer?18:30
GridCubeno idea18:30
tsaavikright click desktop -> accessories -> disk usage analyzer18:30
GridCubelast time i used one of those things was on konqueror back in 0518:31
JamesMiddendorfftsaavik, I thought it was in the livecd but after I did the install it was gone18:31
well_laid_lawngparted isn't installed as a default app18:31
GridCubethe cd has software that the installation does not18:31
VlynDon’t have that18:31
GridCubelike gparted18:31
ubottugparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php18:32
tsaavikA commandline equiv to disk usage analyzer is 'du --max-depth=1 -x |sort -n' :D very handy when looking for some free space :D18:32
well_laid_lawndf -h   is a shorter version18:33
GridCube!info boabab18:33
ubottuPackage boabab does not exist in oneiric18:33
tsaavikwell_laid_lawn: the du is better because you can traverse the tree and run it at each level18:33
GridCube!info baobab18:33
ubottubaobab (source: gnome-utils): GNOME disk usage analyzer. In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 407 kB, installed size 3820 kB18:33
GridCubeoh well18:33
JamesMiddendorffGridCube, I know what gparted but it wasnt gparted, unless xubuntu changes the name in the menu to something else18:34
GridCubethat shoud do it sudo apt-get install baobab18:34
jcfpJamesMiddendorff: could be you're looking for gnome-disk-utility18:34
JamesMiddendorffjcfp, hrmm maybe I wonder if that was what I saw18:34
GridCubeJamesMiddendorff: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Baobab18:36
GridCubesudo apt-get install baobab18:37
lamonttsaavik: success!  thanks18:41
PowergiantHey guys. I have a problem with my mp3 player in xubuntu. When I had ubuntu, it would automount, but it dosn't in xubuntu. I can see it via lsusb. Do i have to maunally mount it or can it be automated.?18:42
lamontnext up... I want the Compose ability I had under gnome 2... where do I assign that keybinding, I wonder?18:42
tsaaviklamont: right click desktop -> settings -> window manager tweaks18:43
tsaaviknot sure if thats installed by default18:43
tsaavikthere is a 'Compositor' tab18:44
pollohi, i need help ;___;18:44
polloany play heroes of newerth ?18:44
tsaavikhelp is a bash builtin, you should have it :D18:44
lamonttsaavik: doesn't show up for me...18:45
tsaavikThe tab, or the tweaks app?18:46
polloplease man18:46
lamontright click on desktop gives me a menu with "Desktop settings" that lacks a tweaks tab18:46
lamontah. settings -> window manager tweaks18:46
polloin linux mint 11 hon have good fps, but in xubuntu 11.10 open gl dont work18:47
pollovery slow18:47
lamonttsaavik: this is the ability to type things like "<compose>12" and get 1/2 as a single character glyph in unicode18:47
lamonttsaavik: which seems different from the Compositor tab18:48
tsaaviklamont: oh sorry, no idea on that.18:48
tsaavikpollo: maybe try installing the binary video card drivers18:49
pollonvidia settings ?18:50
tsaavikpollo: right click desktop, settings, additional driveres18:50
polloi have it18:50
polloyeah yeah, i have 280.1318:51
tsaavikah, then you should have gl18:51
tsaavikwhat does glxgears show18:51
pollobut are very slow18:51
tsaavikfor refrence, I get 301 frames in 5.0 seconds = 60.000 FPS on a builtin intel i5 video card with non-properitary drivers18:52
tsaavikwhich is capped to the refresh rate18:52
polloi see all datas of glx18:53
tsaavikcan you pastebin it?18:54
tsaavikdo you see the 3 rgb gears?18:55
tsaavikso no window with 3 spinning gears?18:57
well_laid_lawn!paste | pollo18:57
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ubottupollo: please see above18:57
* genii-around slides well_laid_lawn a coffee18:58
pollosorry, i noob18:58
* well_laid_lawn appreciates a good coffe :)18:58
tsaavikpollo: it looks like your drivers arn't working, I'd focus on that. Maybe try a reboot and see if 'lsmod |grep nvidia' shows anything. I have to run for a bit, bbl.18:59
pollook, thx :)18:59
pollolsmod |grep nvidia =  nvidia              11713772  4219:00
well_laid_lawn!nvidia | pollo19:01
ubottupollo: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto19:01
lamontnow how do I unmute this fine machine? (or get sound working - works under unity)19:01
well_laid_lawnlamont: tried running   alsamixer -c 0   in a terminal and turning things up?19:02
well_laid_lawn!info pavucontrol19:03
ubottupavucontrol (source: pavucontrol): PulseAudio Volume Control. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.99.1-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 136 kB, installed size 1024 kB19:03
lamontwell_laid_lawn: interestingly, they're already all the way up19:04
well_laid_lawnlamont: make sure none have a m at the bottom19:05
well_laid_lawnwell none you want to use19:05
lamontalsamixer and I go back a ways in time19:05
well_laid_lawntry pavucontrol then19:13
rhin0not sure why -- my ssd is showing half capacity (installed xubuntu 11.10) ... what could be the reason for an ssd showing 1/2 capacity ... could it be deteriorating?  I have done multiple multiple installs onto it19:27
well_laid_lawnrhin0: do you use trim with the ssd19:28
rhin0well_laid_lawn: I just install standard don't change anything -- I would have thought that in order to install onto an SSD linux needs "trim"19:29
well_laid_lawnrhin0: I no nothing about ssd's except that they needtrim19:29
sysadm_org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [Could not detect registered XULRunner to use] what should i do19:38
sysadm_org.eclipse.swt.SWTError: No more handles [Could not detect registered XULRunner to use] what should i do19:41
csenger41hello :)20:45
csenger41anyone could help me giving executable bit for a file on ntfs?20:47
well_laid_lawncsenger41: do you want to run the app in wine?20:48
well_laid_lawnchmod -v a+x /path/to/file   normally works20:49
csenger41ive tried chmod +x filename but it didnt work20:50
darkgod_alguien que hable español?20:50
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csenger41once ive found a guide editing some fmask20:50
well_laid_lawncsenger41: is it a windows application?20:51
well_laid_lawncsenger41: you can't run that in linux except through wine20:52
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csenger41well_laid_lawn: i know, but the needs to be given executable bit20:53
csenger41*but the exe needs20:53
well_laid_lawnJoin #winehq for application help20:54
csenger41well_laid_lawn: well ok20:55
tsaavikyou don't need trim to make SSDs work. Its just a 'nice to have' kinda thing.20:59
csenger41tsaavik: hm?20:59
tsaavik@rhin0, sounds like he has a mis-partitioned SSD20:59
well_laid_lawnafaik trim is needed to properly empty space after file removal21:00
tsaaviknah, its just a performance thing21:00
well_laid_lawnyou need to research that better21:01
tsaavikwithout trim, the manner in which files are deleted are not optimal for an SSD21:02
tsaavikit won't make your 80GB SSD suddenly boot up as 40GB21:02
tsaavikand yeah, its not GREAT to run an ssd without trim, but its also not great to run them mounted with atime and with the wrong prefetcher, but they still work.21:03
tsaavikI can confirm that 11.10 still dosn't mount drives with trim by default. discard is missing from fstab :(21:10
tsaavikmaybe its still not considered stable?21:10
tsaavik[532394.179917] EXT4-fs (sda1): re-mounted. Opts: discard,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr,discard21:11
tsaavikIf i suddenly disappear from irc, you'll know it isn't :D21:11
w30I need a /dev/mixer. I tried making sym links to some /dev/snd/by-path files (dev) but that didn't work.21:12
tsaavikYou'll need to enable oss emulation, alsa has a mode for this, IF, you are running alsa21:12
tsaavikcheckout snd-pcm-oss21:13
tsaavik(its a module/kernel option)21:13
w30tsaavik, I have alsamixer and pulse. I don't know if I hhave alsa21:14
well_laid_lawnif you have alsamixer you have alsa21:15
tsaaviktry, modprobe snd-pcm-oss21:15
w30tsaavik, how do I know?21:15
tsaaviklsmod |egrep "alsa|oss" (unless you compiled them into your kernel)21:16
w30tsaavik, well I don't have snd pcm oss21:16
tsaavikyup, you'll need that if you want /dev/mixer21:17
well_laid_lawn!find oss21:17
ubottuFound: krosspython, libossp-uuid-dev, libossp-uuid16, libqca2-plugin-ossl, libsdl1.2debian-oss, alsa-oss, alsaplayer-oss, amiga-fdisk-cross, autossh, bve-route-cross-city-south (and 193 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=oss&searchon=names&suite=oneiric&section=all21:17
well_laid_lawninstall alsa-oss21:17
tsaavikonce you get it working you can tweak where the mappings of the oss mixer to the alsa one by echoing into "/proc/asound/card0/oss_mixer"21:18
tsaavikcourse, you might get lucky and it will work outta the box21:18
w30tsaavik, cx88_alsa              18535  2  shows up21:19
tsaavikyeah, do what well said "install alsa-oss && modprobe snd-pcm-oss"21:19
tsaavikbrb, nuking a fancy 99cent lunch.21:20
w30tsaavik, well_laid_lawn, thank you21:22
tsaavikgrats. So what ancient program you trying to get working? :D21:24
drvladimirtzuI have Windows 7 installed to sdb2, but for whatever reason grub doesn't have a windows listing at startup.  How can I get it there?21:26
* sugar_Xubuntu testing Sweets_Distribution Sugar 0.94 on Xubuntu 11.0421:26
marko_Anybody here21:27
tsaavikdrvladimirt you need to edit your grub config. I believe there is a gui tool to assist with this, trying to remeber the name21:28
tsaavikhere is one, I have 0 experience with it: http://www.installubuntulinux.com/2011/05/grubcustomizer-guiconfigurationtool.html21:33
moetunes!grub | drvladimirtzu21:33
ubottudrvladimirtzu: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)21:33
tsaavikyeah, suprisingly nothing about GUIs in the Grub2 doc21:34
csenger41hello again21:39
csenger41please help where can i find that feature where i can set up Xubuntu to show all windows near each other21:40
w30tsaavik, I can't get snd-pcm-oss out of alsa-oss and snd-pcm is not in the repos. Is snd-pcm-oss module inany other .deb?22:01
tsaavikmight need to get like optional kernel modules22:10
tsaaviklemme check a dpkg on a machine running alsa22:10
tsaavikalsa-base, alsa-utils22:11
tsaavikwhich you prob already have22:11
tsaavikmaybe try installing linux-source, that might suck in the modules22:12
w30tsaavik, yep, I have base and utils22:18
w30tsaavik, ok, will do22:21
w30tsaavik, no go with linux-source either22:27
tsaavikoh, ugh22:29
ubottuLaunchpad bug 659024 in oss-compat (Ubuntu) "fatal errors installing oss-compat, snd_pcm_oss module not found" [Medium,Confirmed]22:29
tsaavikyou'll have to compile your kernel by hand. There is a link to a guide at the bottom of that22:29
tsaavikw30, what exactly are you trying to do? I assume you have some ancient audio software you want to make work?22:30
w30tsaavik, tvtime wants /dev/mixer for volume control22:31
moetunesoss should have been a dependency of tvtime then22:33
moetunes!info tvtime22:33
ubottutvtime (source: tvtime): television display application. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-7ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 686 kB, installed size 2044 kB22:33
tsaavikmoetunes: yeah, thats his problem, he can't get the alsa oss emulation module loaded22:35
tsaaviklooks like they took it out of the kernel by default :(22:35
w30the tvtime people have been fired or have quit,22:35
w30pulse seems to be beta 1 software22:36
w30can't win22:36
tsaavikw30: here is a command i found for going direct to alsa. startup tvtime and once running try: sox -t alsa hw:1,0 -t alsa hw:0,022:37
tsaavikhere is another thing to try22:38
tsaaviktvtime --mixer=hw:0/Line22:38
tsaavikthat was reported to work in 11.0422:39
w30tsaavik,  tvtime --mixer=hw:0/Line works22:43
w30tsaavik, good enough for me, thanks man that way way beyond me22:44
tsaavikyour just tellinging tvtime to use the newer alsa interface instead of oss. Thank the tvtime people :D22:45
lolwutHas anyone had any trouble with the network manager in 11.10? I can't get it to work properly. Upon login I have no network connection and the only way I can get it to work is to ifdown then ifup the interface22:47
lolwutOnce I have my wireless card up I have Internet access but the network manage still says "device not ready"22:48
lolwutGoogle has failed me here, and I am at a loss as to what to do next22:48
olbiI have problem, when I want change in nvidia-settings change tab CRT-122:49
olbiThe program 'nvidia-settings' received an X Window System error.22:49
olbiThis probably reflects a bug in the program.22:49
olbiThe error was 'BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)'.22:49
olbi  (Details: serial 204 error_code 2 request_code 140 minor_code 19)22:49
olbi  (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported asynchronously;22:49
olbi   that is, you will receive the error a while after causing it.22:49
olbi   To debug your program, run it with the --sync command line22:49
olbi   option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful22:49
olbi   backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() function.)22:49
lolwutuse paste bin, olbi22:49
olbisorry :P22:50
olbiI have GeForce 6600GT with NVIDIA drivers22:51
olbibut this problem is again, first problem was with GF FX520022:52
tsaavikolbi: its been a while since i've run my 6600, but as i recall I had to load nvidia-legacy22:52
tsaavikor something to that effect22:52
olbiweird is that, that nvidia settings cant load x server display configuration :P22:53
tsaavikI also had horrible issues with X running out of video ram while trying to run 9.x ubuntu.22:54
olbibut why I have default 173 while the newest are 285 for this card?:P22:55
tsaavikmy xterms would open as black windows :(22:55
chickenboneIs there a way I can download the restricted extras package and transfer them to my desktop PC?23:01
Glitter_GulchWhat does every one think of 11.1023:29
tsaavikI regret moving from 11.04 mainline, fortunately xbuntu was there to make things usable again.23:40
gasbagtsaavik: That's where I'm at too.  I'm trying to pick up the pieces.23:42

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