| shazzner | hey everyone | 02:36 |
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| shazzner | I've been reading up on juju/ensemble | 02:36 |
| shazzner | and I'm eager to try it out | 02:36 |
| shazzner | what's a good way to set something up and practice with? | 02:37 |
| shazzner | I was thinking Amazon's EC2 free account | 02:37 |
| shazzner | also is juju only really good for web-facing servers? | 02:38 |
| shazzner | or can I use it to deploy something like OpenERP? | 02:38 |
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| dosdawg | you could use it for internal servers if you ran openstack or some other ec2 api compatable | 03:56 |
| shazzner | dosdawg: do you have a tutorial or something about setting up openstack? Thanks! | 04:15 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: its non-trivial :) | 05:02 |
| shazzner | then I'll need the most un-trivial tutorial/guide there is! :) | 05:02 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: you can use the orchestra provider to install machines for specific workloads using juju | 05:02 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: For OpenStack you need several components.. mysql, rabbitmq, nova (for virtualization and the API), glance (for hosting machine images).. | 05:05 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: here's a good starting point http://cloud.ubuntu.com/2011/10/ubuntu-cloud-deployment-with-orchestra-and-juju/ | 05:07 |
| shazzner | thanks! sorry I'm a bit distracted watching the #OWS stuff | 05:08 |
| SpamapS | #OWS ? | 05:08 |
| shazzner | Occupy Wall Street, twitter hashtag | 05:10 |
| SpamapS | ah | 05:10 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: if you just want to "play" with juju you can use the "local" provider which will start LXC containers (like a VM but more lightweight) to stand in for EC2 VMs or real servers. | 05:10 |
| shazzner | ah ok, thanks | 05:11 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: as far as OpenERP, yes, you could deploy it with juju | 05:12 |
| shazzner | is there a charm built for it? | 05:12 |
| SpamapS | no, but they're pretty easy to write. :) | 05:13 |
| SpamapS | and I believe at least some of its backend services have charms | 05:13 |
| SpamapS | looks like it has a web component and a server component, and it uses postgresql.. | 05:14 |
| SpamapS | shazzner: anyway, local provder should be documented at http://j.mp/juju-docs .. heading to sleep, but good luck, and let us know if you have any success w/ an OpenERP charm. :) | 05:23 |
| shazzner | Ok, thanks again! | 05:24 |
| shazzner | Get some sleep :) | 05:24 |
| shang | quick question, I install orchestra, but did not see the management class comes up, did I missing something? | 05:26 |
| fwereade | shang: you mean you install ubuntu-orchestra-server, and cobbler runs, but the juju-orchestra-* mgmt classes are not created? | 06:35 |
| fwereade | shang: if so, I don't think I can help, I use orchestra but I'm not familiar with how it's all set up | 06:37 |
| fwereade | shang: but ping me if you think it's something juju-related | 06:37 |
| shang | fwereade: ok, thanks! | 07:32 |
| doitdistributed | hi | 10:46 |
| doitdistributed | I have a problem installing juju on lucid | 10:46 |
| doitdistributed | any hints? | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | sudo apt-get install juju | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | Reading package lists... Done | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | Building dependency tree | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | Reading state information... Done | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | The following NEW packages will be installed: | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | juju | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | 0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | Need to get 0B/383kB of archives. | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | After this operation, 2,879kB of additional disk space will be used. | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | (Reading database ... 170192 files and directories currently installed.) | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | Unpacking juju (from .../juju_0.5+bzr409-1juju1~lucid1_all.deb) ... | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/juju_0.5+bzr409-1juju1~lucid1_all.deb (--unpack): | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/relation-list', which is also in package ensemble 0:0.5+bzr292-0ensemble1~lucid1 | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | Errors were encountered while processing: | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | /var/cache/apt/archives/juju_0.5+bzr409-1juju1~lucid1_all.deb | 10:47 |
| doitdistributed | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) | 10:47 |
| drt24 | doitdistributed: perhaps this is due to already having ensemble installed? | 10:50 |
| doitdistributed | hmpf | 10:50 |
| doitdistributed | :-) | 10:50 |
| doitdistributed | that was it - stupid me! Thanks a lot! | 10:51 |
| _mup_ | Bug #881991 was filed: Devops page does not exist on juju.ubuntu.com <marketing> <website> <juju:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/881991 > | 12:48 |
| _mup_ | txzookeeper/session-and-conn-fail r59 committed by kapil.foss@gmail.com | 13:08 |
| _mup_ | try to make the retry wrapper functions generic, privatize some of the helpers, address some doc string comments | 13:08 |
| hazmat | g'morning juju folks | 13:11 |
| rog | niemeyer: hiya | 13:17 |
| niemeyer | rog: Yo | 13:17 |
| niemeyer | Greetings from almost-UDS | 13:17 |
| rog | niemeyer: having fun? | 13:17 |
| niemeyer | Not yet :) | 13:17 |
| niemeyer | Just got in the room | 13:18 |
| dosdawg | whats juju do that chef or puppet won't ?? | 15:55 |
| hazmat | dosdawg, orchestration | 16:00 |
| hazmat | and reuse | 16:00 |
| SpamapS | http://askubuntu.com/questions/52840/differentiator-between-juju-and-front-runners-puppet-and-chef/66287#66287 | 16:22 |
| _mup_ | Bug #66287: fglrx freeze machine <linux-restricted-modules-2.6.17 (Ubuntu):New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/66287 > | 16:22 |
| hazmat | dosdawg, ^ answer from a puppet founder at the askubuntu link | 16:23 |
| rog | some config files have a "juju: environments" line at the start. does this have any significance? | 16:26 |
| rog | s/config/environments.yaml/ | 16:26 |
| rog | i've noticed that in at least one place in the testing code it still says "ensemble: environments" so i'm guessing it doesn't signify too much :-) | 16:27 |
| rog | any particular reason it's there at all? | 16:28 |
| dosdawg | interesting about puppet vs juju | 16:35 |
| dosdawg | thanks | 16:35 |
| SpamapS | rog: not required, I think originally it was meant to just signify how to interpret the file, but the filename does that already | 16:36 |
| rog | SpamapS: ok, thanks. i thought that, but i just thought i'd check before ignoring it entirely. i wonder if parsing it should fail if it's there, in fact. (obviously it would need deprecating first) | 16:37 |
| SpamapS | deprecation warnings for cruft is a great idea | 16:40 |
| hazmat | rog, its basically a tag header to ensure its not some random yaml file | 16:43 |
| rog | hazmat: ok. well, it would be if it was actually required :-) | 16:44 |
| rog | as it is, it's noise AFAICS | 16:44 |
| rog | i think it may as well just be a comment. | 16:45 |
| rog | alternatively we could enforce it. | 16:45 |
| hazmat | rog, it should be the python impl | 16:45 |
| hazmat | enforced that is | 16:45 |
| rog | hazmat: not as far as i can see. | 16:45 |
| rog | hazmat: as in: many of the tests omit it, or have it wrong (e.g. ensemble: environments). and the parsing code doesn't seem to look for it. | 16:46 |
| rog | but i may easily have misinterpreted | 16:46 |
| rog | that's why i'm asking... | 16:46 |
| hazmat | rog, indeed it is superflous on environments.yaml | 16:47 |
| hazmat | the charm metadata does have a required header | 16:47 |
| rog | ah, ok. maybe it should be required in environments too, for consistency | 16:48 |
| hazmat | hmm.. that doesn't seem to be the case either | 16:48 |
| hazmat | weird.. i know there was a header check at some point | 16:48 |
| rog | hazmat: personally, i think that the structural check is sufficient. | 16:49 |
| rog | hazmat: but i'm fine with doing a header check too. | 16:49 |
| hazmat | rog, yeah.. the structural check is more relevant | 16:50 |
| evan__ | Does anyone have experience with installing Hbase using juju charms hadoop-master / slave + Hbase | 18:12 |
| hazmat | evan_, i don't believe there is an hbase charm yet | 19:40 |
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