[00:49] Mmmm cookies [00:50] * Unit193 had cookies, and lots of other foods :D [00:54] * Linkmaster is lacking thereof [00:55] * genii-around munches [01:05] * DarthFrog is wanting a beer. [01:06] i recently installed kubuntu 11.10 and it says i only have 2.4g or ram when I have 6gigs [01:06] free -m returns the same thing [01:06] is this a problem other people are having as well? [01:07] i've reinstalled only to get the same result [01:07] number18: did you install the 64bit version ? [01:07] i installed ubuntu 11.10 and didn't have this problem, only kubuntu [01:07] What does your BIOS say it has? [01:08] good call, i have a 64bit processor [01:08] i installed the 32bit [01:08] yup 32bit can't address that much memory [01:08] regardless of OS. [01:08] the 64bit is labeled as amd though [01:08] should i still install that one? [01:08] yes [01:09] intel use the AMD 64bit instructions [01:09] gotcha, thanks mase_work [01:09] np [01:17] kndkfnsklfd [01:18] I'm running a job (started using bash) and my core temp is 75*C. Is there any way to throttle it? I'm afraid 75 degrees is getting close to crash territory. [01:21] increase fan speed maybe..? what do you have running that is bringing it up that high? [01:23] Linkmaster, I am testing XTEA cipher with different block sizes [01:26] ah, that'll run any computer up you know =P maybe maximize you're fan, or set a priority through the system policy [01:33] Linkmaster, I'll just use a cron job to stop the process for 1 minute, then run it for 4 minutes, repeat. Dirty but it works. Low priority (renice 19) doesn't stop it from using 790% cpu when other processes only use 10%. [01:34] true... [01:34] yeah, pretty dirty, but i'll work fine [01:34] *it'll === root is now known as Guest78708 === serg is now known as Guest21477 === rnewell is now known as RandomRoger === sillytones is now known as semitones [03:02] kde doesn't seem to be saving any edits to my launcher menu [03:02] where are these .desktop files stored? [03:02] (I'd like to double check the permissions) [03:10] aperson: normally in /usr/share/applications iirc [03:10] yeah, I came to my senses and just did a find ~ -iname \*.desktop [03:10] thank you : [03:10] ) [03:11] so the custom ones go in ~/.local/share/applications/ [03:11] that being said, the ones being created are *there*, but they're not showing up in the menu [03:14] check for executable bit [03:14] .desktop files need to be marked as executable? [03:14] these things are being created with kde's menu editor [03:15] so I don't know why things are wonky === AD is now known as Guest3547 === md is now known as Guest93822 [03:21] hello [03:21] well_laid_lawn↬ none of the .desktop files have an executable bit set [03:22] but from my understanding, they don't need it [03:22] aperson: here if I right click one the first option is to execute it [03:23] yes, but .desktop files themselves are not executables [03:23] they point to them [03:24] if you right click yours and there's no option to execute it then something's up [03:24] it should run the app just from clicking on it [03:24] I don't think we're on the same level here [03:24] and they *do* [03:25] ok [03:25] so that's not why they aren't in the menu [03:28] so my kmail broke on the update :-( [03:28] can I nuke the settings somehow? [03:28] dpkg-reconfigure didn't [03:29] What group does a user need to belong to run X (and x programs)? [03:30] epimeth↬ your settings should be in your ~ somewhere. My guess is in ~/.kde/share/config/ [03:31] aperson: cheers, checking now [03:31] or .config ? [03:32] well_laid_lawn↬ hmm... I think the problem lies wherever kde stores the menu structure [03:33] is there any way for me to check whats wrong with the configuration files? [03:33] the error I get when I open kmail is: KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now. [03:33] The error was: [03:33] Failed to fetch the resource collection. [03:33] mr-rich: Is this your actual question or more like: I get when I type startx [03:34] and then when I click ok it closes [03:35] the conf files look okay, but that really doesn't mean anything [03:35] genii-around: not really ... I want to run a gui program as a different user and the user belongs to no groups, so when I try to run a program as that user, I'm told that it can't open display ... [03:36] mr-rich: How was that user created [03:36] genii-around: through the control panel/system settings - user manager ... [03:37] genii-around: I limited access because it's for a vost on my LAMP stack ... [03:38] * genii-around sips and contemplates [03:39] genii-around: Now I want to copy files over using dolphin (instead of ftp) and, hence, run dolphin as as another user ... [03:40] well_laid_lawn↬ I did some risky business and mv'd my ~/.config/menus folder (which seems to be where the structure is stored) [03:40] genii-around: I suppose I could do a sudo copy then chown ... [03:40] I now have the default menus, we'll see if edits now stick [03:51] I am having a issue with kubuntu-desktop I Have installed kde-dekstop on ubuntu 11.10 and tried set kde as default, but every reboot unity turn to be default again, do anyone know how to fixit? [03:57] killown: Use KDM instead of GDM. [03:58] DarthFrog it's lightdm [03:58] OK, use KDM instead of lightdm. :-) [03:58] DarthFrog, Whats the command to set kdm as default? [03:59] Something like update-alternatives... i don't remember [04:01] update-alternatives --get-selections | less [04:04] I have "x-session-manager auto /usr/bin/startkde" [04:04] DarthFrog, dpkg-reconfigure kdm [04:05] :D [04:05] Yes, I was just trying that myself. :-) [04:05] thanks [04:05] alright, no dice. Moving my .config/menus folder restored the old menu hierarchy, but still, none of my additions stick [04:32] applications-kmenuedit.menu: http://pastie.org/2760105 and this is an example of one of the .desktop files created by the menu editor: http://pastie.org/2760109 [04:32] I'm at a loss [04:44] for anyone watching me talk to myself: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283658 [04:44] KDE bug 283658 in general "menu items created by kmenuedit are not visible in k-menu" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] [04:44] that's the problem [04:44] the empty OnlyShowIn= line [04:48] aperson: so you found an existing bug that matches your issue ? [04:48] yes [04:48] ok cool. [04:48] it took me a while to conjure up the right keywords into google [04:48] looks like it's been fixed [04:48] yep, but I'll have to suffer through it until 1.7.3 is out :S [04:49] yeh unfortunately. you could always rebuild your package with that patch [04:49] if you are really keen [04:50] I'd rather wait and hack it for now [04:50] yeh fair enough. [04:50] 4.7.3 should be out soonish though i think [04:51] morning [04:51] I can hope! [04:51] how to get a source from a package with apt-get? so i can extract the source? [04:51] 1.27 Tuesday, November 1, 2011: KDE 4.7.3 release apparently [04:51] not sure how on track that is [04:52] How can I use "Activities" panel in KDE toolbox? what is its function? [04:52] but it should be roughly around then [04:52] yeah, hopefully the kubuntu ppa will update [04:58] hey you guys why does this work { ls -la | egrep '*DSC*' } but this one wont { ls -la | egrep '*DSC*JPG' } the directory im working on has many files named DSCN[0-9]{4}.JPG [05:07] ibmx37, get ride of those ' ' [05:07] Ls -la | egrep *DSC*JPG [05:08] didnt work [05:12] what are you trying to do, why not ls -la *DSC*JPG? [05:14] you shouldn't grep ls anywho - use find [05:50] how do I define an area for notifications? [05:51] morning all [05:51] someone of you also have the problem with ghosts on the tasbar? see here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277010 [05:51] KDE bug 277010 in widget-taskbar "Task bar displays the entries in two rows instead of one and with gaps" [Normal,Reopened] [05:52] vehemoth↬ grab a notification and move it somewhere [05:54] noaXess: yup [05:54] mase_work: also one of the disappointed users :) [05:54] not dissapointed [05:55] bugs happen, i use brand new software so i expect a few rough edges [05:55] by the time it gets to an LTS i am sure it will be fixed [05:57] aperson: my problem is that on the left side once it meets the screen edge it won't go any further, but on the right side it just goes out of the screen [05:59] I would like to have them on the right side but it's a problem if they are larger than they were when I decided on their placement [06:08] can I list all plasmoids that I have from the command line? === k is now known as Guest7749 [07:40] can some one help me with dual monitors and video games not wanting to allow me to change the res.. for when i go full screen all games displays on both monitors as if it was just one.. [07:41] oh i have nvidia video card.. and twinview settings i believe.. [08:27] are here some dkms, mkdeb cracks? [08:29] Hello, my taskbar goes from translucent to a plain old gray at random after a reboot. Sometimes changing the panel theme works, but not now. Desktop effects are enabled, so what is causing this, and how can I fix it? === chaosr is now known as ChaosR [08:32] hi, I just changed my password on the control panel and now I can't login [08:32] when I try to recover it by dropping to a root shell in recovery mode and typing 'passwd' it says "password cannot be recovered" or something like that [08:33] I know the new password and I know I didn't make any typographical errors [08:33] what's odd is that when I try to change the password of 'root' I get the same error [08:33] (in the recovery root shell) [08:34] ChaosR: seems you have a similar problem like this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277010 [08:34] KDE bug 277010 in widget-taskbar "Task bar displays the entries in two rows instead of one and with gaps" [Normal,Reopened] [08:34] what is your advise to me? [08:35] martin__: you are now in recovery shell.. as root, right? [08:37] noaXess: not at all [08:37] noaXess: yes [08:37] what do we call that bar at the left of the screen, when the mouse is move over it [08:38] sorry wrong channel. [08:38] martin__: passwd yourusername doesn't work? [08:39] yoga: yeah :) cause i don't have it ;) [08:39] noaXess: that is about the task manager, I am complaining about the panel itself (or kwin for that matter) [08:39] noaXess: I get input fields to change it, but when I press enter it says something about authentication unchanged, cannot recover or something [08:39] ChaosR: so the whole panel grays out [08:39] yes [08:39] noaXess: a similar error to when the two passwords don't match, but without that error [08:40] like compositing disables, but it's still turned on [08:40] ChaosR: what happens if you run: killall plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop [08:40] noaXess: still gray [08:41] grrr.. [08:42] noaXess: interesting, changing the height fixed it [08:42] ChaosR: forever? [08:42] booooooot ;) [08:42] noaXess: even more interesting, only at a specific height it turns gray [08:42] strange [08:43] the height where the application launcher maxes out [08:43] at exactly that height, it becomes gray [08:44] I think that is 48 pixels, but I'm not sure [08:44] anybody running kubuntu that is willing to test this? [08:58] join #quiz [09:41] I'm looking for an XML editor that can handle a 10MB file (crazy depth... maybe 160)... everything is dying on me, eclipse is crying about heap space, firebug is barely keeping up... Does KDE have anything to offer? [09:44] try http://kxmleditor.sourceforge.net/ [09:49] JustinasLelys___, configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found! This is a new install, I do want KDE but do NOT want kdm (which caused nightmares on my old install) [09:57] as I suspected, kate is having trouble too... I do have a decent machine I swear... Time to give vim a shot, probably should have been my 1st or 2nd choice [10:37] vi(m) wil certainly be able to edit the file. Recently, I edited an 800+ MB file with it. No slow-down was noticeable. [10:38] Whats up [10:55] [89058.019069] Out of memory: Kill process 2063 (akonadi_nepomuk) score 478 or sacrifice child << akonadi seems to have mem leak! :) === af_ is now known as Guest85407 [10:59] You don't say! When one has to sacrifice children to read mail, I'm opting out of this! [11:06] Hey all [11:07] someone knows, if dkms handels dkms.conf file in another way, since latest verions? Error! No valid dkms.conf in dkms_source_tree or dkms_binaries_only. [11:08] it's a problem with a driver for a usb soudn/dj console.. here are details.. http://www.mixxx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=851&start=70 [11:08] hey BluesKaj [11:08] up and running? :).. [11:16] noaXess, what does lspci | grep -i audio , show [11:16] BluesKaj: if what? [11:17] if usb console is plugged in? [11:17] yes [11:17] actually lsusb |grep audio [11:18] BluesKaj: one moment [11:21] BluesKaj: thats happens if i plugin the device: http://pastebin.com/DaqrSj2c [11:22] and lsusb | grep -i audio doesn't show the device.. cause there is no kernel modul for it... [11:23] in this ppa is a kernel modul https://launchpad.net/~rojtberg/+archive/hdjmod, but the developer means, that in dkms anything has changed for dkms.conf... [11:23] what about lsusb [11:24] lsusb: http://pastebin.com/RaXsfTE5 [11:24] dluif we find out, whats the problem with dkms.conf, then i can send this info to the developer [11:25] the problem is.. i have a gig this weekend and now i'm unable to use my dj console :(... [11:25] i think the driver itself works.. cuase.. after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 and also kernel v3.x it worked, cause the modul was made in 11.04 and kernel 2.6.x.. [11:26] ok gtstreamer needds to be configured , run sudo gstreamer-properties , thrn configure the device , and reboot may be in order [11:27] BluesKaj: what? [11:27] sudo gstreamer-properties [11:27] BluesKaj: it's not just a usb soundcard.. it's a console to controll software like Mixxx DJ console [11:27] it will detect your usb device [11:28] ok.. let's try :) [11:28] can't hurt [11:28] BluesKaj: don't have gstreamer-properties [11:29] is it in gtreamer-tools? [11:29] does the output suggest that ? [11:30] sudo: gstreamer-properties: command not found [11:30] no suggestion [11:31] is there some way I can get this with gcal/kmail? http://www.slipstick.com/images/Outlook%2011%20Calendar.jpg [11:31] (ie the multiple people view) [11:32] install gstreamer-tools , it might work, noaXess [11:33] BluesKaj: how to get package information and what commands/files are included? [11:33] apt-cache show package show only description... [11:34] BluesKaj: no way.. havn't the command you want.. [11:35] just have gstreamer-codec-install [11:35] I just installed it wirh apt-get, then do man gstreamer for help [11:37] BluesKaj: :( no gstreamer.. man gstreamer no manual entry for... [11:37] yeah, bummer [11:37] http://paste.ubuntu.com/719602/ [11:37] try the properties command now [11:40] BluesKaj: no way.. sorry. [11:40] nothing pops up , no gui ? [11:41] sudo gstreamer-properties [11:43] BluesKaj: nothing.. don't have this command [11:43] sorry [11:44] BluesKaj: do you have gnome? [11:44] odd , because I have it [11:44] cause.. think this is a tool that is in gnome-media [11:44] njope lde [11:44] kde [11:45] but gnome-media installed? [11:45] well, some gtk libs might come with it if you install it [11:45] BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/719604/ [11:46] gstreamer0.10-gconf [11:46] I'm not such a pursidt that I can't tolerate a few gtk libraries etc if I need them [11:47] are you afraid to use gtk libs ? [11:47] BluesKaj: no.. i'm not. if i need. i doo.. but if i don't have the command.. i can't use it ;) [11:48] btw gstreamer0.10-gconf don't have gstreamer-properties [11:48] in wich package is it? [11:50] gstreamer-tools [11:50] aha.. i need gnome-media too [11:52] yeah. it gets pulled in [11:52] ok.. i don't see the usb device.. it's not [11:53] reload alsa [11:57] GOT IT:... i got the kernel modul running, but manually build and install it with dkms from source.. HEHEEEEEEE [11:58] I hope you can get it to build ok [11:59] BluesKaj: it works.. my dj console works.. so i can inform the developer so he can repair it ;) [12:00] repair the dkms module ? [12:01] BluesKaj: it seems that the sourccode of the modul is fine. but installing it from the deb package breaks.. [12:02] ok can you build it with make? [12:02] and build essential [12:03] you might need mercurial as wel [12:17] BluesKaj: the source can be add/build/installed with dkms directly.. [12:17] ok [12:22] how are you going to tell the laptop which sound device to use as default ,, the usb device is default when it's on the the systembus === kbroulik_ is now known as kbroulik [12:23] noaXess,^ [12:23] BluesKaj: with alsamixer :) [12:24] but i don't need to with this Hercules DJ Console.. normal sound with eg. vlc, amarok will be played over internal intel sound card.. all sound within Mixxx will be go over the dj console.. [12:25] so intel will act as a capture card [12:25] from the mixx [12:26] what's on the djconsole, cd players , TTs ? [12:32] noaXess, maybe you should investigate "jack" just for some options , [12:33] BluesKaj: http://www.hercules.com/de/DJ-Musik/bdd/p/12/dj-console-mk2-virtualdj-djc-ed/ [12:33] the dj console controls Mixxx that have two channels for mp3 sound.. you also can handle vinyl with it. but never used it [12:34] BluesKaj: what you mean with jack? [12:35] noaXess, nevermind , it's not relavent [12:36] BluesKaj: about jack...my other problem, you remember? sound headphone and speaker.... i read on some places that there is a tool in ubuntu/gnome like jack sense... that controls if a jack is plugged in.. [12:36] BluesKaj: who does control that in kubuntu? [13:08] noaXess, I don't know much about jack.. some research is necessary for us [13:16] hello everyone [13:19] Hi, is it worth to upgrade to 11.10 if I have stable system and KDE 4.7.1? [13:52] the latest version of Xorg and Nvidia drivers + Kubuntu/Ubuntu if total bullcrap [13:52] *is [13:53] BadDesign: in backports? [13:54] not backports, the latest in default repos... WTF I have 40 tabs open in Chrome and the RAM is 3.8 GB used and Swap is 1.8 GB and the system is unresponsive [13:54] I hate NVIDIA and XORG [13:54] I can not hibernate [13:54] Me neither [13:55] That's another issue. I could never hibernate in Linux for more than 5 years now.. I'm still waiting [13:55] Actually, I can hiberate but when i weak up i get messy screen [13:57] hi all, anyone knows how to install that taskbar widget for fast access to folder. I can't remember its name and where to find it. Its icon was a folder with a yellow star on it, if memory serves well. [13:57] athena: I think thats a issue with kde [13:59] it was very handy, installed by default on Natty. With a few clicks you could access any location you wanted. [14:00] I hear that there is a package named 'uswap' in official archive on hardware hibernation. Does anyone know something about it ? [14:04] lelamal: try the folder view widget [14:05] phoenix_firebrd: thanks, I have that one on the desktop, but it's not the one I'm looking for [14:06] lelamal: was it present in the default installation? [14:07] no, it wasn't, I'm on a fresh install of oneric [14:07] but it was default on natty [14:07] it's only available on kubuntu, couldn't find it in any other distro [14:09] lelamal: I think it's called Quick Access [14:09] Hi [14:09] can somebody help me out with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/72360/no-headphones-sound-in-asus-u52f-laptop [14:09] and I havent seen it in oneiric so far [14:09] but I dont use it anyway :) [14:10] kbroulik: yes, that maybe it [14:10] that's a pity, I found it very handy [14:10] lelamal: try kde-apps.org or in the add widgets strip click on "add new widget" and there you can click that "download widget from internet", maybe search there [14:11] BadDesign, did you install "recommended drivers" in kmenu>apps>settings>additional drivers ? [14:11] kbroulik: ok thanks, I'll try that [14:11] fitoria_: Is the hardware ok? [14:13] yes [14:13] it works [14:13] BluesKaj: holy cow, I have 173 version as the activated version... thought I activated nvidia-current yesterday, lets see if I change from 173 to current I will gain some improvements [14:13] the speakers works but no headphone [14:14] fitoria_: have you tried with any other OS [14:14] phoenix_firebrd: yes, it works in windows [14:14] fitoria_: ok, lets try to find the problem [14:14] Hi all. Is it possible to use the default GTK style in LibreOffice in Kubuntu? I don't like the oxygen style. I installed libreoffice-style-tango , but it only changes icons, not window appearance. [14:15] fitoria_: can you one thing for me? [14:15] tell me [14:16] bad yup the current one is definitely newer thgan the 173 [14:16] fitoria_: we need to try some thing, with the pulseaudio settings [14:16] ok [14:16] fitoria_: goto /etc/pulse/ [14:16] fitoria_, lspci | grep -i audio , post the first device in the list [14:17] 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06) [14:17] phoenix_firebrd: done [14:18] fitoria_: can you see a file daemon.conf [14:18] phoenix_firebrd: yes [14:18] fitoria_: you have to backup the file now [14:19] ok [14:19] fitoria_: do you know how? [14:19] done [14:19] fitoria_: now open the file for editing with root permissions [14:20] phoenix_firebrd: done [14:20] what should I edit? [14:20] fitoria_: can you find the line 'enable-remixing = yes'? [14:20] yes [14:20] is commented [14:21] fitoria_: is that line starts with ;? [14:21] yes [14:21] fitoria_: remove ; from that line and save [14:21] done [14:21] fitoria_: is the file saved [14:21] yes [14:22] fitoria_: now end the pulseaudio process, the process will restart automatically [14:23] done [14:23] with killall [14:23] I updated to oneiric and now I don't get addressbook completions in the kmail composer. Does anyone know how to get them back? [14:23] fitoria_: check for sound now [14:23] trying... [14:24] speakers works, headphone does not === fitoria_ is now known as fitoria [14:24] fitoria_: open alsamixer in termina; [14:24] fitoria_: open alsamixer in terminal [14:24] ok [14:25] fitoria: increase all the volume levels and see === athena is now known as athena_ [14:25] phoenix_firebrd: all up to 100 [14:26] fitoria: goto settings [14:26] fitoria: open multimedia [14:26] ok, I'm there [14:26] fitoria: phonon [14:27] ok [14:27] fitoria: audio hardware setup [14:27] ok [14:27] fitoria: whats the profile selected? [14:28] Analog stereo output [14:28] fitoria: can you see any other in the list [14:28] yes [14:28] fitoria: do you have any 5.1 or 7.1? [14:29] phoenix_firebrd: yes http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/26/plasma-desktopDF2579.jpg [14:30] fitoria: can you translate the last entry for me [14:30] apagado == turned off [14:32] fitoria: set the profile to "Digital Surround 5.1(HDMI) Output" [14:33] done [14:33] fitoria: this is a fresh install of 11.10 right? [14:33] no, is a upgrade install from 11.04 [14:34] fitoria: ok, now check for sound [14:34] no sound [14:34] at all [14:34] fitoria: its a driver fault [14:35] :'-( [14:35] I have to recompile or switch the driver? [14:35] the digital out directs the sound in digital form to the hdmi output , there won't be any sound unless it's converted to analog and redirested to headphones or speakers [14:36] fitoria: there is no analog output port for your headphone jack [14:36] redirected [14:36] no [14:36] fitoria, you may need to reload alsa , sudo alsa force-reload [14:36] fitoria: try to use a custom alsa settings to redirect audio === yofel_ is now known as yofel [14:37] hello === abhishek is now known as sheku [14:37] phoenix_firebrd: how do I redirect audio in alsa? [14:37] for those interested, to set the quick access widget I had to install its package from muon, and then it showed up among all the other widgets. Thanks everyone for your suggestions. [14:38] fitoria: that is little bit complex, you have to get to know something about alsa first, i think BluesKaj can help you [14:38] lelamal: good [14:38] hey [14:38] fitoria: have you tried with a live session of 11.10? [14:39] mmm no [14:39] but I could tr [14:39] try* [14:39] fitoria: try it [14:40] if it works [14:40] fitoria: some problems got solved for me in a fresh install regarding sound [14:40] ok [14:40] just checking .. [14:40] phoenix_firebrd, fitoria i don't think the hdmi output will work for the headphones or speakers , the analog setting in phonon should tho [14:40] long time haven't used an IRC [14:40] BluesKaj: he said it worked in windows [14:42] hdmi out will work in windows yes because it doea simultaneous conversion of digital and analog which might work in kubuntu and might not ...not totally sure yet [14:43]