[00:49] <genii-around> Mmmm cookies
[00:50]  * Unit193 had cookies, and lots of other foods :D
[00:54]  * Linkmaster is lacking thereof
[00:55]  * genii-around munches
[01:05]  * DarthFrog is wanting a beer.
[01:06] <number18> i recently installed kubuntu 11.10 and it says i only have 2.4g or ram when I have 6gigs
[01:06] <number18> free -m returns the same thing
[01:06] <number18> is this a problem other people are having as well?
[01:07] <number18> i've reinstalled only to get the same result
[01:07] <mase_work> number18: did you install the 64bit version ?
[01:07] <number18> i installed ubuntu 11.10 and didn't have this problem, only kubuntu
[01:07] <DarthFrog> What does your BIOS say it has?
[01:08] <number18> good call, i have a 64bit processor
[01:08] <number18> i installed the 32bit
[01:08] <mase_work> yup 32bit can't address that much memory
[01:08] <mase_work> regardless of OS.
[01:08] <number18> the 64bit is labeled as amd though
[01:08] <number18> should i still install that one?
[01:08] <mase_work> yes
[01:09] <mase_work> intel use the AMD 64bit instructions
[01:09] <number18> gotcha, thanks mase_work
[01:09] <mase_work> np
[01:17] <nemeth_> kndkfnsklfd
[01:18] <new2net> I'm running a job (started using bash) and my core temp is 75*C. Is there any way to throttle it? I'm afraid 75 degrees is getting close to crash territory.
[01:21] <Linkmaster> increase fan speed maybe..? what do you have running that is bringing it up that high?
[01:23] <new2net> Linkmaster, I am testing XTEA cipher with different block sizes
[01:26] <Linkmaster> ah, that'll run any computer up you know =P maybe maximize you're fan, or set a priority through the system policy
[01:33] <new2net> Linkmaster, I'll just use a cron job to stop the process for 1 minute, then run it for 4 minutes, repeat. Dirty but it works. Low priority (renice 19) doesn't stop it from using 790% cpu when other processes only use 10%.
[01:34] <Linkmaster> true...
[01:34] <Linkmaster> yeah, pretty dirty, but i'll work fine
[01:34] <Linkmaster> *it'll
[03:02] <aperson> kde doesn't seem to be saving any edits to my launcher menu
[03:02] <aperson> where are these .desktop files stored?
[03:02] <aperson> (I'd like to double check the permissions)
[03:10] <well_laid_lawn> aperson: normally in /usr/share/applications iirc
[03:10] <aperson> yeah, I came to my senses and just did a find ~ -iname \*.desktop
[03:10] <aperson> thank you :
[03:10] <aperson> )
[03:11] <aperson> so the custom ones go in ~/.local/share/applications/
[03:11] <aperson> that being said, the ones being created are *there*, but they're not showing up in the menu
[03:14] <well_laid_lawn> check for executable bit
[03:14] <aperson> .desktop files need to be marked as executable?
[03:14] <aperson> these things are being created with kde's menu editor
[03:15] <aperson> so I don't know why things are wonky
[03:21] <Guest93822> hello
[03:21] <aperson> well_laid_lawn↬ none of the .desktop files have an executable bit set
[03:22] <aperson> but from my understanding, they don't need it
[03:22] <well_laid_lawn> aperson: here if I right click one the first option is to execute it
[03:23] <aperson> yes, but .desktop files themselves are not executables
[03:23] <aperson> they point to them
[03:24] <well_laid_lawn> if you right click yours and there's no option to execute it then something's up
[03:24] <well_laid_lawn> it should run the app just from clicking on it
[03:24] <aperson> I don't think we're on the same level here
[03:24] <aperson> and they *do*
[03:25] <well_laid_lawn> ok
[03:25] <well_laid_lawn> so that's not why they aren't in the menu
[03:28] <epimeth> so my kmail broke on the update :-(
[03:28] <epimeth> can I nuke the settings somehow?
[03:28] <epimeth> dpkg-reconfigure didn't
[03:29] <mr-rich> What group does a user need to belong to run X (and x programs)?
[03:30] <aperson> epimeth↬ your settings should be in your ~ somewhere.  My guess is in ~/.kde/share/config/
[03:31] <epimeth> aperson: cheers, checking now
[03:31] <Tech-1> or .config ?
[03:32] <aperson> well_laid_lawn↬ hmm... I think the problem lies wherever kde stores the menu structure
[03:33] <epimeth> is there any way for me to check whats wrong with the configuration files?
[03:33] <epimeth> the error I get when I open kmail is: KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now.
[03:33] <epimeth> The error was:
[03:33] <epimeth> Failed to fetch the resource collection.
[03:33] <genii-around> mr-rich: Is this your actual question or more like: I get <insert error here> when I type startx
[03:34] <epimeth> and then when I click ok it closes
[03:35] <epimeth> the conf files look okay, but that really doesn't mean anything
[03:35] <mr-rich> genii-around: not really ... I want to run a gui program as a different user and the user belongs to no groups, so when I try to run a program as that user, I'm told that it can't open display ...
[03:36] <genii-around> mr-rich: How was that user created
[03:36] <mr-rich> genii-around: through the control panel/system settings - user manager ...
[03:37] <mr-rich> genii-around: I limited access because it's for a vost on my LAMP stack ...
[03:38]  * genii-around sips and contemplates
[03:39] <mr-rich> genii-around: Now I want to copy files over using dolphin (instead of ftp) and, hence, run dolphin as as another user ...
[03:40] <aperson> well_laid_lawn↬ I did some risky business and mv'd my ~/.config/menus folder (which seems to be where the structure is stored)
[03:40] <mr-rich> genii-around: I suppose I could do a sudo copy then chown ...
[03:40] <aperson> I now have the default menus, we'll see if edits now stick
[03:51] <killown> I am having a issue with kubuntu-desktop I Have installed kde-dekstop on ubuntu 11.10 and tried set kde as default, but every reboot unity turn to be default again, do anyone know how to fixit?
[03:57] <DarthFrog> killown:  Use KDM instead of GDM.
[03:58] <killown> DarthFrog it's lightdm
[03:58] <DarthFrog> OK, use KDM instead of lightdm. :-)
[03:58] <killown> DarthFrog, Whats the command to set kdm as default?
[03:59] <killown> Something like update-alternatives... i don't remember
[04:01] <DarthFrog> update-alternatives --get-selections | less
[04:04] <DarthFrog> I have "x-session-manager              auto     /usr/bin/startkde"
[04:04] <killown> DarthFrog, dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[04:05] <killown> :D
[04:05] <DarthFrog> Yes, I was just trying that myself. :-)
[04:05] <killown> thanks
[04:05] <aperson> alright, no dice.  Moving my .config/menus folder restored the old menu hierarchy, but still, none of my additions stick
[04:32] <aperson> applications-kmenuedit.menu: http://pastie.org/2760105 and this is an example of one of the .desktop files created by the menu editor: http://pastie.org/2760109
[04:32] <aperson> I'm at a loss
[04:44] <aperson> for anyone watching me talk to myself: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283658
[04:44] <aperson> that's the problem
[04:44] <aperson> the empty OnlyShowIn= line
[04:48] <mase_work> aperson: so you found an existing bug that matches your issue ?
[04:48] <aperson> yes
[04:48] <mase_work> ok cool.
[04:48] <aperson> it took me a while to conjure up the right keywords into google
[04:48] <mase_work> looks like it's been fixed
[04:48] <aperson> yep, but I'll have to suffer through it until 1.7.3 is out :S
[04:49] <mase_work> yeh unfortunately.  you could always rebuild your package with that patch
[04:49] <mase_work> if you are really keen
[04:50] <aperson> I'd rather wait and hack it for now
[04:50] <mase_work> yeh fair enough.
[04:50] <mase_work> 4.7.3 should be out soonish though i think
[04:51] <noaXess> morning
[04:51] <aperson> I can hope!
[04:51] <noaXess> how to get a source from a package with apt-get? so i can extract the source?
[04:51] <mase_work> 1.27 Tuesday, November 1, 2011: KDE 4.7.3 release apparently
[04:51] <mase_work> not sure how on track that is
[04:52] <rapalino> How can I use "Activities" panel in KDE toolbox? what is its function?
[04:52] <mase_work> but it should be roughly around then
[04:52] <aperson> yeah, hopefully the kubuntu ppa will update
[04:58] <ibmx37> hey you guys why does this work { ls -la | egrep '*DSC*' } but this one wont { ls -la | egrep '*DSC*JPG' }     the directory im working on has many files named DSCN[0-9]{4}.JPG
[05:07] <killown> ibmx37, get ride of those ' '
[05:07] <killown> Ls -la | egrep *DSC*JPG
[05:08] <ibmx37> didnt work
[05:12] <killown> what are you trying to do, why not ls -la *DSC*JPG?
[05:14] <well_laid_lawn> you shouldn't grep ls anywho - use find
[05:50] <vehemoth> how do I define an area for notifications?
[05:51] <noaXess> morning all
[05:51] <noaXess> someone of you also have the problem with ghosts on the tasbar? see here https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277010
[05:52] <aperson> vehemoth↬ grab a notification and move it somewhere
[05:54] <mase_work> noaXess: yup
[05:54] <noaXess> mase_work: also one of the disappointed users :)
[05:54] <mase_work> not dissapointed
[05:55] <mase_work> bugs happen, i use brand new software so i expect a few rough edges
[05:55] <mase_work> by the time it gets to an LTS i am sure it will be fixed
[05:57] <vehemoth> aperson: my problem is that on the left side once it meets the screen edge it won't go any further, but on the right side it just goes out of the screen
[05:59] <vehemoth> I would like to have them on the right side but it's a problem if they are larger than they were when I decided on their placement
[06:08] <vehemoth> can I list all plasmoids that I have from the command line?
[07:40] <starn> can some one help me with dual monitors and video games not wanting to allow me to change the res.. for when i go full screen all games displays on both monitors as if it was just one..
[07:41] <starn> oh i have nvidia video card.. and twinview settings i believe..
[08:27] <noaXess> are here some dkms, mkdeb cracks?
[08:29] <chaosr> Hello, my taskbar goes from translucent to a plain old gray at random after a reboot. Sometimes changing the panel theme works, but not now. Desktop effects are enabled, so what is causing this, and how can I fix it?
[08:32] <martin__> hi, I just changed my password on the control panel and now I can't login
[08:32] <martin__> when I try to recover it by dropping to a root shell in recovery mode and typing 'passwd' it says "password cannot be recovered" or something like that
[08:33] <martin__> I know the new password and I know I didn't make any typographical errors
[08:33] <martin__> what's odd is that when I try to change the password of 'root' I get the same error
[08:33] <martin__> (in the recovery root shell)
[08:34] <noaXess> ChaosR: seems you have a similar problem like this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=277010
[08:34] <martin__> what is your advise to me?
[08:35] <noaXess> martin__: you are now in recovery shell.. as root, right?
[08:37] <ChaosR> noaXess: not at all
[08:37] <martin__> noaXess: yes
[08:37] <yoga> what do we call that bar at the left of the screen, when the mouse is move over it
[08:38] <yoga> sorry wrong channel.
[08:38] <noaXess> martin__: passwd yourusername doesn't work?
[08:39] <noaXess> yoga: yeah :) cause i don't have it ;)
[08:39] <ChaosR> noaXess: that is about the task manager, I am complaining about the panel itself (or kwin for that matter)
[08:39] <martin__> noaXess: I get input fields to change it, but when I press enter it says something about authentication unchanged, cannot recover or something
[08:39] <noaXess> ChaosR: so the whole panel grays out
[08:39] <ChaosR> yes
[08:39] <martin__> noaXess: a similar error to when the two passwords don't match, but without that error
[08:40] <ChaosR> like compositing disables, but it's still turned on
[08:40] <noaXess> ChaosR: what happens if you run: killall plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop
[08:40] <ChaosR> noaXess: still gray
[08:41] <noaXess> grrr..
[08:42] <ChaosR> noaXess: interesting, changing the height fixed it
[08:42] <noaXess> ChaosR: forever?
[08:42] <noaXess> booooooot ;)
[08:42] <ChaosR> noaXess: even more interesting, only at a specific height it turns gray
[08:42] <noaXess> strange
[08:43] <ChaosR> the height where the application launcher maxes out
[08:43] <ChaosR> at exactly that height, it becomes gray
[08:44] <ChaosR> I think that is 48 pixels, but I'm not sure
[08:44] <ChaosR> anybody running kubuntu that is willing to test this?
[08:58] <orothred> join #quiz
[09:41] <new2net> I'm looking for an XML editor that can handle a 10MB file (crazy depth... maybe 160)... everything is dying on me, eclipse is crying about heap space, firebug is barely keeping up... Does KDE have anything to offer?
[09:44] <JustinasLelys___> try http://kxmleditor.sourceforge.net/
[09:49] <new2net> JustinasLelys___, configure: error: The important program kde-config was not found!   This is a new install, I do want KDE but do NOT want kdm (which caused nightmares on my old install)
[09:57] <new2net> as I suspected, kate is having trouble too... I do have a decent machine I swear... Time to give vim a shot, probably should have been my 1st or 2nd choice
[10:37] <alvin> vi(m) wil certainly be able to edit the file. Recently, I edited an 800+ MB file with it. No slow-down was noticeable.
[10:38] <alex_____> Whats up
[10:55] <Fleck> [89058.019069] Out of memory: Kill process 2063 (akonadi_nepomuk) score 478 or sacrifice child << akonadi seems to have mem leak! :)
[10:59] <alvin> You don't say! When one has to sacrifice children to read mail, I'm opting out of this!
[11:06] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[11:07] <noaXess> someone knows, if dkms handels dkms.conf file in another way, since latest verions? Error! No valid dkms.conf in dkms_source_tree or dkms_binaries_only.
[11:08] <noaXess> it's a problem with a driver for a usb soudn/dj console.. here are details.. http://www.mixxx.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=851&start=70
[11:08] <noaXess> hey BluesKaj
[11:08] <noaXess> up and running? :)..
[11:16] <BluesKaj> noaXess, what does lspci | grep -i audio , show
[11:16] <noaXess> BluesKaj: if what?
[11:17] <noaXess> if usb console is plugged in?
[11:17] <BluesKaj> yes
[11:17] <BluesKaj> actually lsusb |grep audio
[11:18] <noaXess> BluesKaj: one moment
[11:21] <noaXess> BluesKaj: thats happens if i plugin the device: http://pastebin.com/DaqrSj2c
[11:22] <noaXess> and lsusb | grep -i audio doesn't show the device.. cause there is no kernel modul for it...
[11:23] <noaXess> in this ppa is a kernel modul https://launchpad.net/~rojtberg/+archive/hdjmod, but the developer means, that in dkms anything has changed for dkms.conf...
[11:23] <BluesKaj> what about lsusb
[11:24] <noaXess> lsusb: http://pastebin.com/RaXsfTE5
[11:24] <noaXess> dluif we find out, whats the problem with dkms.conf, then i can send this info to the developer
[11:25] <noaXess> the problem is.. i have a gig this weekend and now i'm unable to use my dj console :(...
[11:25] <noaXess> i think the driver itself works.. cuase.. after upgrading from 11.04 to 11.10 and also kernel v3.x it worked, cause the modul was made in 11.04 and kernel 2.6.x..
[11:26] <BluesKaj> ok gtstreamer needds to be configured , run sudo gstreamer-properties , thrn configure the device , and reboot may be in order
[11:27] <noaXess> BluesKaj: what?
[11:27] <BluesKaj>  sudo gstreamer-properties
[11:27] <noaXess> BluesKaj: it's not just a usb soundcard.. it's a console to controll software like Mixxx DJ console
[11:27] <BluesKaj> it will detect your usb device
[11:28] <noaXess> ok.. let's try :)
[11:28] <BluesKaj> can't hurt
[11:28] <noaXess> BluesKaj: don't have gstreamer-properties
[11:29] <noaXess> is it in gtreamer-tools?
[11:29] <BluesKaj> does the output suggest that ?
[11:30] <noaXess> sudo: gstreamer-properties: command not found
[11:30] <noaXess> no suggestion
[11:31] <jussi> is there some way I can get this with gcal/kmail? http://www.slipstick.com/images/Outlook%2011%20Calendar.jpg
[11:31] <jussi> (ie the multiple people view)
[11:32] <BluesKaj> install gstreamer-tools , it might work, noaXess
[11:33] <noaXess> BluesKaj: how to get package information and what commands/files are included?
[11:33] <noaXess> apt-cache show package show only description...
[11:34] <noaXess> BluesKaj: no way.. havn't the command you want..
[11:35] <noaXess> just have gstreamer-codec-install
[11:35] <BluesKaj> I just installed it wirh apt-get, then do man gstreamer for help
[11:37] <noaXess> BluesKaj: :( no gstreamer.. man gstreamer no manual entry for...
[11:37] <BluesKaj> yeah, bummer
[11:37] <noaXess> http://paste.ubuntu.com/719602/
[11:37] <BluesKaj> try the properties command now
[11:40] <noaXess> BluesKaj: no way.. sorry.
[11:40] <BluesKaj> nothing pops up , no gui ?
[11:41] <BluesKaj> sudo gstreamer-properties
[11:43] <noaXess> BluesKaj: nothing.. don't have this command
[11:43] <noaXess> sorry
[11:44] <noaXess> BluesKaj: do you have gnome?
[11:44] <BluesKaj> odd , because I have it
[11:44] <noaXess> cause.. think this is a tool that is in gnome-media
[11:44] <BluesKaj> njope lde
[11:44] <BluesKaj> kde
[11:45] <noaXess> but gnome-media installed?
[11:45] <BluesKaj> well, some gtk libs might come with it if you install it
[11:45] <noaXess> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/719604/
[11:46] <noaXess> gstreamer0.10-gconf
[11:46] <BluesKaj> I'm not such a pursidt that I can't tolerate a few gtk libraries etc if I need them
[11:47] <BluesKaj> are you afraid to use gtk libs ?
[11:47] <noaXess> BluesKaj: no.. i'm not. if i need. i doo.. but if i don't have the command.. i can't use it ;)
[11:48] <noaXess> btw gstreamer0.10-gconf don't have gstreamer-properties
[11:48] <noaXess> in wich package is it?
[11:50] <BluesKaj> gstreamer-tools
[11:50] <noaXess> aha.. i need gnome-media too
[11:52] <BluesKaj> yeah. it gets pulled in
[11:52] <noaXess> ok.. i don't see the usb device.. it's not
[11:53] <BluesKaj> reload alsa
[11:57] <noaXess> GOT IT:... i got the kernel modul running, but manually build and install it with dkms from source.. HEHEEEEEEE
[11:58] <BluesKaj> I hope you can get it to build ok
[11:59] <noaXess> BluesKaj: it works.. my dj console works.. so i can inform the developer so he can repair it ;)
[12:00] <BluesKaj> repair the dkms module ?
[12:01] <noaXess> BluesKaj: it seems that the sourccode of the modul is fine. but installing it from the deb package breaks..
[12:02] <BluesKaj> ok can you build it with make?
[12:02] <BluesKaj> and build essential
[12:03] <BluesKaj> you might need mercurial as wel
[12:17] <noaXess> BluesKaj: the source can be add/build/installed with dkms directly..
[12:17] <BluesKaj> ok
[12:22] <BluesKaj> how are you going to tell the laptop which sound device to use as default ,, the usb device is default when it's on the the systembus
[12:23] <BluesKaj> noaXess,^
[12:23] <noaXess> BluesKaj: with alsamixer :)
[12:24] <noaXess> but i don't need to with this Hercules DJ Console.. normal sound with eg. vlc, amarok will be played over internal intel sound card.. all sound within Mixxx will be go over the dj console..
[12:25] <BluesKaj> so intel will act as a capture card
[12:25] <BluesKaj> from the mixx
[12:26] <BluesKaj> what's on the djconsole, cd players , TTs ?
[12:32] <BluesKaj> noaXess, maybe you should investigate "jack" just for some  options ,
[12:33] <noaXess> BluesKaj: http://www.hercules.com/de/DJ-Musik/bdd/p/12/dj-console-mk2-virtualdj-djc-ed/
[12:33] <noaXess> the dj console controls Mixxx that have two channels for mp3 sound.. you also can handle vinyl with it. but never used it
[12:34] <noaXess> BluesKaj: what you mean  with jack?
[12:35] <BluesKaj> noaXess, nevermind , it's not relavent
[12:36] <noaXess> BluesKaj: about jack...my other problem, you remember? sound headphone and speaker.... i read on some places that there is a tool in ubuntu/gnome like jack sense... that controls if a jack is plugged in..
[12:36] <noaXess> BluesKaj: who does control that in kubuntu?
[13:08] <BluesKaj> noaXess,  I don't know much about jack.. some research is necessary for us
[13:16] <phoenix_firebrd> hello everyone
[13:19] <JustinasLelys___> Hi, is it worth to upgrade to 11.10 if I have stable system and KDE 4.7.1?
[13:52] <BadDesign> the latest version of Xorg and Nvidia drivers + Kubuntu/Ubuntu if total bullcrap
[13:52] <BadDesign> *is
[13:53] <phoenix_firebrd> BadDesign: in backports?
[13:54] <BadDesign> not backports, the latest in default repos... WTF I have 40 tabs open in Chrome and the RAM is 3.8 GB used and Swap is 1.8 GB and the system is unresponsive
[13:54] <BadDesign> I hate NVIDIA and XORG
[13:54] <athena> I can not hibernate
[13:54] <BadDesign> Me neither
[13:55] <BadDesign> That's another issue. I could never hibernate in Linux for more than 5 years now.. I'm still waiting
[13:55] <athena> Actually, I can hiberate but when i weak up i get messy screen
[13:57] <lelamal> hi all, anyone knows how to install that taskbar widget for fast access to folder. I can't remember its name and where to find it. Its icon was a folder with a yellow star on it, if memory serves well.
[13:57] <phoenix_firebrd> athena: I think thats a issue with kde
[13:59] <lelamal> it was very handy, installed by default on Natty. With a few clicks you could access any location you wanted.
[14:00] <athena> I hear that there is a package named 'uswap' in official archive on hardware hibernation. Does anyone know something about it ?
[14:04] <phoenix_firebrd> lelamal: try the folder view widget
[14:05] <lelamal> phoenix_firebrd: thanks, I have that one on the desktop, but it's not the one I'm looking for
[14:06] <phoenix_firebrd> lelamal: was it present in the default installation?
[14:07] <lelamal> no, it wasn't, I'm on a fresh install of oneric
[14:07] <lelamal> but it was default on natty
[14:07] <lelamal> it's only available on kubuntu, couldn't find it in any other distro
[14:09] <kbroulik> lelamal: I think it's called Quick Access
[14:09] <fitoria_> Hi
[14:09] <fitoria_> can somebody help me out with this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/72360/no-headphones-sound-in-asus-u52f-laptop
[14:09] <kbroulik> and I havent seen it in oneiric so far
[14:09] <kbroulik> but I dont use it anyway :)
[14:10] <lelamal> kbroulik: yes, that maybe it
[14:10] <lelamal> that's a pity, I found it very handy
[14:10] <kbroulik> lelamal: try kde-apps.org or in the add widgets strip click on "add new widget" and there you can click that "download widget from internet", maybe search there
[14:11] <BluesKaj> BadDesign, did you install "recommended drivers" in kmenu>apps>settings>additional drivers ?
[14:11] <lelamal> kbroulik: ok thanks, I'll try that
[14:11] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: Is the hardware ok?
[14:13] <fitoria_> yes
[14:13] <fitoria_> it works
[14:13] <BadDesign> BluesKaj: holy cow, I have 173 version as the activated version... thought I activated nvidia-current yesterday, lets see if I change from 173 to current I will gain some improvements
[14:13] <fitoria_> the speakers works but no headphone
[14:14] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: have you tried with any other OS
[14:14] <fitoria_> phoenix_firebrd: yes, it works in windows
[14:14] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: ok, lets try to find the problem
[14:14] <IppatsuMan> Hi all. Is it possible to use the default GTK style in LibreOffice in Kubuntu? I don't like the oxygen style. I installed libreoffice-style-tango , but it only changes icons, not window appearance.
[14:15] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: can you one thing for me?
[14:15] <fitoria_> tell me
[14:16] <BluesKaj> bad yup the current one is definitely newer thgan the 173
[14:16] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: we need to try some thing, with the pulseaudio settings
[14:16] <fitoria_> ok
[14:16] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_:  goto /etc/pulse/
[14:16] <BluesKaj> fitoria_,  lspci | grep -i audio , post the first device in the list
[14:17] <fitoria_> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
[14:17] <fitoria_> phoenix_firebrd: done
[14:18] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: can you see a file daemon.conf
[14:18] <fitoria_> phoenix_firebrd: yes
[14:18] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: you have to backup the file now
[14:19] <fitoria_> ok
[14:19] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: do you know how?
[14:19] <fitoria_> done
[14:19] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: now open the file for editing with root permissions
[14:20] <fitoria_> phoenix_firebrd: done
[14:20] <fitoria_> what should I edit?
[14:20] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: can you find the line 'enable-remixing = yes'?
[14:20] <fitoria_> yes
[14:20] <fitoria_> is commented
[14:21] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: is that line starts with ;?
[14:21] <fitoria_> yes
[14:21] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: remove ; from that line and save
[14:21] <fitoria_> done
[14:21] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: is the file saved
[14:21] <fitoria_> yes
[14:22] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: now end the pulseaudio process, the process will restart automatically
[14:23] <fitoria_> done
[14:23] <fitoria_> with killall
[14:23] <PhilRod_> I updated to oneiric and now I don't get addressbook completions in the kmail composer. Does anyone know how to get them back?
[14:23] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: check for sound now
[14:23] <fitoria_> trying...
[14:24] <fitoria_> speakers works, headphone does not
[14:24] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: open alsamixer in termina;
[14:24] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria_: open alsamixer in terminal
[14:24] <fitoria> ok
[14:25] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: increase all the volume levels and see
[14:25] <fitoria> phoenix_firebrd: all up to 100
[14:26] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: goto settings
[14:26] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: open multimedia
[14:26] <fitoria> ok, I'm there
[14:26] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: phonon
[14:27] <fitoria> ok
[14:27] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: audio hardware setup
[14:27] <fitoria> ok
[14:27] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: whats the profile selected?
[14:28] <fitoria> Analog stereo output
[14:28] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: can you see any other  in the list
[14:28] <fitoria> yes
[14:28] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: do you have any 5.1 or 7.1?
[14:29] <fitoria> phoenix_firebrd: yes http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/26/plasma-desktopDF2579.jpg
[14:30] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: can you translate the last entry for me
[14:30] <fitoria> apagado == turned off
[14:32] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: set the profile to "Digital Surround 5.1(HDMI) Output"
[14:33] <fitoria> done
[14:33] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: this is a fresh install of 11.10 right?
[14:33] <fitoria> no, is a upgrade install from 11.04
[14:34] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: ok, now check for sound
[14:34] <fitoria> no sound
[14:34] <fitoria> at all
[14:34] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: its a driver fault
[14:35] <fitoria> :'-(
[14:35] <fitoria> I have to recompile or switch the driver?
[14:35] <BluesKaj> the digital out directs the sound in digital form to the hdmi output , there won't be any sound unless it's converted to analog and redirested to headphones or speakers
[14:36] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria:  there is no analog output port for your headphone jack
[14:36] <BluesKaj> redirected
[14:36] <fitoria> no
[14:36] <BluesKaj> fitoria, you may need to reload alsa , sudo alsa force-reload
[14:36] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: try to use a custom alsa settings to redirect audio
[14:37] <roi> hello
[14:37] <fitoria> phoenix_firebrd: how do I redirect audio in alsa?
[14:37] <lelamal> for those interested, to set the quick access widget I had to install its package from muon, and then it showed up among all the other widgets. Thanks everyone for your suggestions.
[14:38] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: that is little bit complex, you have to get to know something about alsa first, i think BluesKaj can help you
[14:38] <phoenix_firebrd> lelamal: good
[14:38] <sheku> hey
[14:38] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: have you tried with a live session of 11.10?
[14:39] <fitoria> mmm no
[14:39] <fitoria> but I could tr
[14:39] <fitoria> try*
[14:39] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: try it
[14:40] <fitoria> if it works
[14:40] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: some problems got solved for me in a fresh install regarding sound
[14:40] <fitoria> ok
[14:40] <sheku> just checking ..
[14:40] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, fitoria i don't think the hdmi output will work for the headphones or speakers , the analog setting in phonon should tho
[14:40] <sheku> long time haven't used an IRC
[14:40] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: he said it worked in windows
[14:42] <BluesKaj> hdmi out will work in windows yes because it doea simultaneous conversion of digital and analog which might work in kubuntu and might not ...not totally sure yet
[14:43] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: we just have to redirect the audio manually in alsa
[14:43] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, fitoria , is it necessary to have hdmi out as default ?
[14:44] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: no
[14:44] <fitoria> BluesKaj: no
[14:44] <BluesKaj> alsa doesn't redirect the audio , the soundcard or pulseaudio can
[14:44] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: have you heard of asound.cong?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> the sound settings in phonon with pulseaudio
[14:44] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: have you heard of asound.conf?
[14:45] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: its proper to say that we are mixing the sound manually
[14:45] <BluesKaj> yes, phoenix_firebrd , but I use .asoundrc ...asound.conf didn't work with my sound card
[14:46] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya thats fine
[14:46] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i had my share of problems with alsa before pulseaudio
[14:47] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i am using creative soundblaster
[14:47] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: had problem with bass redirection and a lowpass filter
[14:48] <BluesKaj> yes, phoenix_firebrd , I have to use pulse with my m-audio card for web content audio and I don't like like it, but I put up with it.
[14:48] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i remember you are the one who tried may alsa settings
[14:49] <BluesKaj> fitoria, try your phonon default audio setting in the analog mode , see if you 'phones work
[14:50] <fitoria> ok
[14:50] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, are you using spdif output ?
[14:50] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: do you know that some of the soundcards use software instead of hardware to mix and for some filters
[14:51] <BluesKaj> yes ,especially on MSWindows
[14:51] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya
[14:52] <fitoria> BluesKaj: they don't work :-(
[14:52] <BluesKaj> yeah . I have Xtreme sound card on my other pc that used software filters for the analog output to the soundcard 5.1 outs
[14:52] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: in windows?
[14:52] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, yes
[14:53] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: he he
[14:53] <BluesKaj> now i just use 2 speakers on it , no sub required
[14:53] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: do you have a sub?
[14:54] <BluesKaj> fitoria, couls you pastebin your alsamixer in playback mode (F3) please ..we need to look at the settings
[14:55] <fitoria> ok
[14:56] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, yes ,but it's on my HT system here . this pc/media server feeds the digital audio to an audio receiver which does the DAC work
[14:56] <fitoria> BluesKaj: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/26/plasma-desktopwY2579.jpg
[14:56] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: oh, ok
[14:57] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: press tab
[14:58] <BluesKaj> fitoria, your headphone and speakers arte muted ..the MM in the ctrlsbox , use the M key to unmute them
[14:58] <fitoria> sorry
[14:58] <fitoria> I did that just to test
[14:58] <fitoria> but
[14:58] <fitoria> it does not work anyways :P
[14:58] <BluesKaj> ok
[14:59] <noaXess> how to really disable akonadi things? i have added this to exclude while session starts: akonadi_control,akonadiserver,akonaditray,nepomuk,nepomukserver but it doesn't help.. akonaditray shows a running anokadi server..
[14:59] <noaXess> cause i don't use it and always get information about akonadi.. i want disable it..
[14:59] <fitoria> phoenix_firebrd: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/26/plasma-desktopal2579.jpg
[14:59] <BluesKaj> fitoria, but your speakers do work , right ?
[14:59] <fitoria> yes
[14:59] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: will changing the phonon backend help?
[14:59] <fitoria> they work fine
[15:00] <alvin> noaXess: akonadictl stop will halt a running server
[15:01] <alvin> I don't know if it is possible to disable akonadi without breaking functionality.
[15:02] <noaXess> alvin: and how to run or disable akonadi on boot?
[15:03] <phoenix_firebrd> have you tried jackplugin?
[15:03] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: have you tried jackplugin?
[15:03] <BluesKaj> noaXess, make sure you add akonadi to "Applications to be excluded from sessions" in the box in "Session Management"
[15:04] <phoenix_firebrd> noaXess: hi
[15:04] <fitoria> phoenix_firebrd: no
[15:04] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: have you tried the live session of 11.10?
[15:05] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, fitoria , what backend are you using phonon , gstreamer ?
[15:05] <phoenix_firebrd> noaXess: disable show events in all the time apps
[15:05] <fitoria> phonon
[15:05] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: phonon?
[15:06] <fitoria> sorry xine
[15:06] <Guest23829> у меня такая проблема. при запуске wine появляется  сообщение об ошибке в wineboot.exe.  Переустанавливал wine, но ошибка остаётся.
[15:06] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: may be thats the problem
[15:06] <BluesKaj> !ru | Guest23829
[15:06] <phoenix_firebrd> ! Russian | Guest23829
[15:07] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, i meant "in phonon"  sry
[15:08] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: he said he is using xine
[15:08] <BluesKaj> fitoria, ^
[15:08] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: may be he should switch to phonon
[15:08] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: oops sorry
[15:09] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: you are confusing me
[15:09] <fitoria> sorry
[15:09] <fitoria> let me check
[15:09] <BluesKaj> phonon uses gstreamer or xine or vlc or maybe some others
[15:09] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj:  thats right
[15:09] <fitoria> phonon xine backend
[15:10] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: try gstreamer or vlc
[15:10] <fitoria> ok
[15:10] <BluesKaj> fitoria, what kubuntu version ?
[15:10] <fitoria> 11.10
[15:10] <fitoria> Sysinfo for 'mongoro': Linux 3.0.0-12-generic-pae running KDE Development Platform 4.7.2 (4.7.2), CPU: Intel(R)Corei3CPUM380@2.53GHz at 2533 MHz (5231 bogomips), HD: 143/512GB, RAM: 3431/3815MB, 233 proc's, 3.4h up
[15:10] <BluesKaj> gstreamer should be default , did you change it to xine , fitoria ?
[15:11] <fitoria> no idea... I haven't touched that
[15:11] <fitoria> well now in gstreamer the same
[15:12] <BluesKaj> fitoria, did you reload alsa ? , sudo als-force-reload
[15:12] <BluesKaj> err alsa-force
[15:12] <fitoria> reloading
[15:12] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: also pulseaudio
[15:13]  * BluesKaj wionders about pulseaudio . some cards run fine without it
[15:13] <genii-around> I uninstalled it entirely, my Intel HDA works fine
[15:14] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: why the rage buddy
[15:14] <phoenix_firebrd> its true that it is in early days, we have to wait for the good times
[15:15] <BluesKaj> yes genii-around mine did too, then I installed a new soundcard and have to use pulse for alsa to link to webaudio content
[15:15] <fitoria> not workee
[15:15] <fitoria> the same problem :/
[15:16] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: try the jack
[15:16] <BluesKaj> fitoria, remove pulseaudio , reload alsa , then try again
[15:17] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: let him try the live session of 11.10?
[15:17] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, jack won't help
[15:17] <fitoria> guys will you be here later?
[15:17] <fitoria> I have to leave now
[15:17] <fitoria> for a momment
[15:17] <phoenix_firebrd> fitoria: i doubt i will
[15:17] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, rage ?
[15:18] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya
[15:18] <BluesKaj> about ?
[15:18] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: pulseaudio
[15:19]  * BluesKaj shrugs , what rage
[15:20] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: so, you dont hate hate pulseaudio, but you dont love it?
[15:20] <BluesKaj> I just don't like using pulseaudio , it's an impediment with a lot of cards and it's installed by default , it should be optional
[15:21] <BluesKaj> like nepomuk and akonadi and some others that escape me atm
[15:21] <magnushc> why do not ubuntu 11.10 ship with ktorrent 4.1.2?
[15:21] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: nepomuk drives me crazy because of the bus and high cpu usage
[15:23] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd,  add nepomuk to "Applications to be excluded from sessions" in the box in "Session Management" , in system settings startup
[15:23] <phoenix_firebrd> magnushc: i think 4.1.2 is not in backports
[15:24] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i have disabled nepomuk and akonadi usgae already, now its ok
[15:24] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: but i am really interested  in nepomuk
[15:25] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, also  turn it off in Service manager
[15:25] <magnushc> It was released 16.08.11, so they should have plenty of time to test it out.
[15:25] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: yesterday i enabled the backports to see if there is any fixes for nepomuk that truge did recently
[15:25] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: none yet
[15:26] <phoenix_firebrd> magnushc: why cant you compile it from source
[15:27] <magnushc> can, just wonder if there was a good explonation why is was not in repo
[15:28] <BluesKaj> yeah phoenix_firebrd i have the backports on , but havewn't seen much
[15:29] <phoenix_firebrd> magnushc: its a new version ,first it should be tested before it is available to people
[15:30] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: is there a way i can sync kjots with any cloud service, dont get me wrong , i am against mono and tomboy
[15:31] <BluesKaj> phoenix_firebrd, no idea :)
[15:31] <BluesKaj> what's kjots ?
[15:32] <sheku> talking of kjots does anyone know where does this new version store all the notes?
[15:32] <sheku> BluesKaj: its a note taking utility
[15:32] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: note taking app, i am using some storing some commands for reference and for storing some solved  problems
[15:33] <sheku> I'm talking about the new version that uses akonadi backend (4.7)
[15:33] <BluesKaj> ok, I just use a text file in the panel which I edit from time to time , mostly about cli commands etc
[15:34] <sheku> phoenix_firebrd: And about that cloud functionality ..
[15:34] <phoenix_firebrd> sheku: do you know how?
[15:34] <sheku> I think they have it planned for the future
[15:34] <sheku> ;)
[15:35] <phoenix_firebrd> sheku: they are implementing support for owncloud to some apps right now
[15:36] <BluesKaj> google wants to turn our pcs into workstations :)
[15:37] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: meaning?
[15:37] <BluesKaj> with little or no sself storage , so they'll own us
[15:38] <BluesKaj> but it won't happen
[15:38] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: ya
[15:39] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: no privacy, safety and reliability for our documents
[15:40] <BluesKaj> but would still like to get rid of pulseaudio , if alsa would just do what it's supposed to on webaudio content
[15:41] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: its your choice, you have all the control over your OS
[15:41] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i am going now, see you later
[15:42] <BluesKaj> alsa doesn't play flash or other web audio , flash is supposed link to the audo content in browsers , but fails to do so on my setup
[15:43] <abhishek> phoenix_firebrd: Sorry got disconnected
[15:43] <phoenix_firebrd> BluesKaj: i have successfully used alsa with flash
[15:43] <abhishek> phoenix_firebrd: This is the link I was talking of:
[15:43] <phoenix_firebrd> abhishek: its ok
[15:43] <abhishek> phoenix_firebrd: http://dot.kde.org/2010/02/17/kjots-takes-advantage-innovations-kde-development-platform
[15:44] <phoenix_firebrd> abhishek: thanks for the link
[15:44] <phoenix_firebrd> bbl
[15:44] <abhishek> phoenix_firebrd: no problem.. your welcome ;)
[15:47] <BluesKaj> flash files run fine on vlc or dragon player, but not in a browser
[15:47] <BluesKaj> without pulseaudio that is
[16:16] <jorge> alguien me puede ayudar?
[16:19] <BluesKaj> I have to reboot ..got pulsaudio issues ..bbiab
[16:20] <jorge> sansias se veais mierdas q no ayudais a nadie
[16:26] <canis_> how long is a restart skupposed to take after an update?
[16:26] <canis_> I just updated for the very first time.
[16:26] <canis_> using kubuntu 11.10
[16:27] <canis_> I have it on an external drive, and have never had this problem before...I haven't had a lot of problems before I started testing kubuntu.
[16:45] <bmustiata> Hi all, where can I find a list of all the default packages that come on a (k)ubuntu clean install (including versions)?
[17:03] <orated> KDE 4.7.2 Kubuntu 11.10. After upgrading to 4.7.2 from 4.7.1, I can no longer get login screen. I'm currently on irssi. Can anyone help me?
[17:04] <BluesKaj> orated, nvidia graphics ?
[17:05] <orated> yes
[17:05] <BluesKaj> !nomodeset | orated
[17:06] <orated> BluesKaj: Well, it was working fine after upgrade after a while that I blacklisted nouveau and installed nvidia-current
[17:07] <orated> I used the following commands -
[17:07] <orated> sudo apt-get --purge remove xserver-xorg-video-nouveau
[17:08] <orated> sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[17:08] <orated> and then updated initramfs
[17:10] <orated> BluesKaj: I really have some important docs to complete, I probably missed with the drivers. I cannot see the link you pulled out from ubottu... Can you please guide me on how can I fix it?
[17:12] <BluesKaj> orated , did you run sudo nvidia-xconfig /?
[17:13] <orated> no
[17:14] <BluesKaj> orated, you're on irssi ?
[17:14] <orated> BluesKaj: but last now I removed the blacklist nouveau from the /modprobe.conf/.. file and installed what I removed before to bring it back to way it way.. do you want me to repeat those commands and also nvidia-xconfig?
[17:14] <orated> BluesKaj: Yes
[17:15] <orated> just now*
[17:16] <ilovemesomeKubun> I turned off the keychain and now I want to turn it back on
[17:16] <ilovemesomeKubun> Where do I do that again?
[17:16] <ilovemesomeKubun> I'm on 11.10
[17:16] <BluesKaj> ok orated , don't think nouveau needs blacklisting anymore , but run . sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current , then sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:17] <orated> BluesKaj: Ok, I'll do that
[17:17] <ilovemesomeKubun> O, I just found it
[17:20] <orated> BluesKaj: done, now?
[17:20] <BluesKaj> start kdm
[17:20] <orated> stop kdm
[17:21] <orated> start kdm?
[17:21] <orated> ok
[17:21] <orated> BluesKaj: No, no response
[17:22] <orated> BluesKaj: I tried startx and it giave xinit errors - giving up, unable to connect to x server, connection refused, server error
[17:23] <BluesKaj> ok , sudo nano /etc/default/grub , find the line with 'quiet splash' , enter nomodeset after quiet splash , thensudo update-grub and reboot
[17:25] <Chappi> Hi guys! New to IRC
[17:25] <orated> BluesKaj: Can checking Xorg.cong help before doing that?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> orated , you can but don't think it will make any diff to you
[17:28] <orated> BluesKaj: umm ok, brb restart
[17:29] <orated> BluesKaj: I can see quiet splash here -
[17:30] <orated> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[17:30] <Chappi> HELLO..!
[17:30] <orated> Do you want me to edit it as = "quiet splash"
[17:30] <orated> "nomodeset"
[17:31] <Chappi> Remove quiet spalsh and insert nomodeset
[17:31] <BluesKaj>  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash nomodeset"
[17:31] <orated> ok
[17:31] <BluesKaj> once you've edited , then ctl+o , then enter , then ctrl+x to save
[17:32] <Chappi> Hey guys whats the problem?
[17:32] <orated> Rebooting
[17:32] <killown> What I need install in order to get support of pdf thumbnails on dolphin?
[17:33] <BluesKaj> Chappi, , orated can'tget to the login page , he's on irssi ...nvidia grphics with nvidia-current driver installed
[17:34] <Chappi> Hi Sheytan..
[17:34] <sheytan> Chappi hey :)
[17:34] <Chappi> where're u from?
[17:36] <orated> BluesKaj: back, I still see no login screen. And the xhost error repeats still saying  -  cannot open display "" xhost - error ignored, GPU computing may not be possible (It can also be related to BOINC)
[17:37] <Chappi> Hey orated what happened?
[17:37] <sheytan> Chappi Polnad
[17:37] <orated> Chappi: Hi Chappi! Welcome to IRC. I got this problem of no login screen after bo
[17:38] <Chappi> 'bo'?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> orated, leave nomodeset in the line and remove quiet splash , in /etc/default/grub
[17:38] <orated> ok
[17:38] <orated> booting*
[17:39] <Chappi> sheytan: So what do you think about kde?
[17:44] <orated> BluesKaj: Still the same error. Same xinit error for startx, same xhost errors behind boot screen
[17:45] <Chappi> hi orated if you still dont see the login screen, try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the driver name to vesa under the section card0
[17:46] <Chappi> if you dant have the xorg.conf file, run xorg -configure
[17:47] <BluesKaj> orated, did you run sudo update-grub after editing
[17:47] <orated> Oh!
[17:47] <orated> sec
[17:49] <BluesKaj> Chappi, the default driver for nvidia before the recommended driver has to be installed on a new install is the nouveau driver , vesa doesn't work
[17:51] <Chappi> But vesa works on every GPU right? i only told so so that he can atleast get a gui.. you dont havr one now right?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> Chappi, never heard that before
[17:52] <Chappi> yes vesa is the driver that uses the common traits in all GPU's
[17:53] <orated> BluesKaj: No
[17:53] <BluesKaj> maybe a few yrs ago, but not lately . howvwer if you wish you can recommend it to orated ...perhaps you can help him with his problem
[17:53] <orated> change
[17:54] <orated> Yes, Chappi. how can I pastebin xorg.conf to you?
[17:54] <orated> I've pastebinit installed
[17:54] <orated> BluesKaj: No other resolution?
[17:55] <Chappi> orated: lets try this simple solution first - try adding single as a prefix to nomodeset so that it looks like 'single nomodeset' to start as single user mode
[17:55] <BluesKaj>  I think orated's problem foes deeper than the driver and xorg.conf ...but i have to go rake some leaves for a while , so good luck
[17:56] <orated> Thanks for your time BluesKaj
[17:56] <orated> ok Chappi
[17:56] <BluesKaj> np orated
[17:56] <BluesKaj> sry i couldn't help further
[17:56] <Chappi> bye Blueskaj
[17:56] <orated> np
[17:57] <bmustiata> Where can I find a list of all the default packages that come on a (k)ubuntu clean install (including versions)?
[17:59] <Chappi> bmustiata: Head over to muon or synaptic and on the left, select 'by status'
[17:59] <Chappi> and then 'installed'
[18:00] <bmustiata> Chappi: I have a Linux that is a really old Ubuntu upgraded over and over (since 2006-7, can't even remember). This is why I need a list from a clean install on a ubuntu/kubuntu since I want to see if mono comes by default.
[18:02] <phoenix_firebrd> bmustiata: you mean mono runtime?
[18:02] <bmustiata> phoenix_firebrd: yes.
[18:03] <phoenix_firebrd> bmustiata: without it banshee wont work
[18:03] <phoenix_firebrd> bmustiata: that implies its there by default
[18:03] <yofel> we do not ship banshee
[18:03] <bmustiata> phoenix_firebrd: yes, but is it on kubuntu? and was (and is) banshee always the default media player?
[18:03] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: ubuntu?
[18:03] <yofel> ubuntu does, kubuntu does not
[18:03] <phoenix_firebrd> bmustiata: no
[18:04] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: ya right
[18:04] <Chappi> hey orated u there?
[18:04] <yofel> bmustiata: according to http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/oneiric/kubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.manifest it's not on the disk
[18:05] <phoenix_firebrd> bmustiata: do you know that yofel is a person who packages kubuntu?
[18:06] <bmustiata> yofel: thank yo.
[18:06] <bmustiata> phoenix_firebrd: no I did not.
[18:06] <orated> Chappi: Let me brief out what the problem is before adding single modeset to grub.conf. KDE 4.7.2 Kubuntu 11.10. I did upgrade of KDE form 4.7.1 to 4.7.2 and found desktop effects to be not working. I added blasklist nouveau line to blacklist.conf in /etc/modprobe.d . After that I purge remove xserver-xorg-video-noveau and installed nviidia-current and updated initramfs
[18:06] <bmustiata> yofel: thank you*.
[18:06] <phoenix_firebrd> bmustiata: he is our packaging ninja
[18:06] <bmustiata> Chappi: phoenix_firebrd: thank you too.
[18:07] <phoenix_firebrd> bmustiata: yw
[18:07] <yofel> orated: a) that step missed at least 'sudo nvidia-xconfig' b) you use jockey to install the driver usually
[18:07] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: not the only one thankfully :P
[18:07] <orated> orated: And then restarted system and found black screen after login. Its only about getting either noveau or nvidia-cuurent to work properly
[18:08] <orated> yofel: Yes, I did that, I forgot mentioning it
[18:08] <yofel> hm... then having the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be good
[18:08] <orated> sure yofel. I'm on irssi. how can I pastebin the contents of that file usng pastebinit to you?
[18:09] <yofel> with pastebinit it's just: pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:09] <Chappi> i dont know why but the same thing happened to me after installing openchrome. just boot as single user and run startx. it worked for me..
[18:09] <orated> I'll try that Chappi
[18:10] <yofel> Chappi: that'll start a root session - you don't want that for daily work
[18:10] <orated> yofel: 719909 log file
[18:11] <orated> And 719910 xorg.org
[18:11] <Chappi> then type kdm to get the login screen
[18:11] <yofel> [    46.691] (EE) No devices detected.
[18:11] <yofel> o.O
[18:12] <yofel> orated: just to make sure, what does 'lspci | grep -i vga' tell you?
[18:14] <orated> yofel: www.pastebin.com/719914
[18:14] <orated> yofel: paste.ubuntu.com/719914
[18:14] <yofel> AARGH
[18:14] <Chappi> I'll brief out the steps: edit recovery mode entry in grub and add a 'single' beside nomodeset. You'll get a root shell. type kdm to get the login manager.
[18:14] <orated> sorry
[18:14] <yofel> nah, not your fault
[18:15] <yofel> multigpu is chaos...
[18:15] <orated> and Optimus!
[18:15] <yofel> orated: can you somehow disable the intel chip in the BIOS? or is it disabled?
[18:15] <orated> But it was never the case before
[18:15] <orated> It used to work fine with both
[18:16] <orated> Moreover, since its Optimus, nvidia doesn't work most of the time
[18:16] <orated> I don;t have bumblebee installed
[18:16] <orated> So, only Intel one works, if I'm right
[18:16] <yofel> well, as a start, remove your xorg.conf and reboot - if it tries to use the intel card you should get X back at least
[18:16] <yofel> ah wait
[18:17] <yofel> remove nvidia-current too
[18:17] <orated> Chappi: I'll try your suggestion soon, please wait .. I've never been good with editting grub or boot parameters
[18:17] <orated> ok
[18:18] <yofel> *if* that works, try to install nvidia-current using jockey, and blacklist i915 (or however the intel driver is called). Using nomodeset might help too
[18:19] <orated> yofel: Yes, right with noveau I had only nvidia-common. I manually installed nvidia-current and it messed with it
[18:19] <orated> ok
[18:20] <orated> Should I bring both the changes together?
[18:20] <orated> yofel: Why blacklist intel driver?
[18:21] <yofel> orated: first remove nvidia-current and your xorg.conf and reboot - after that pastebin the xorg log again
[18:21] <yofel> orated: I'm guessing that it prefers the intel card
[18:21] <orated> ok
[18:24] <orated> yofel: It worked. I got the login screen but
[18:24] <orated> yofel: Its giving a very weird login prompt and interface
[18:24] <orated> But thanks yofel, atleast I can go ahead editting my document
[18:25] <orated> sec, I'll pastebing xorg.conf
[18:25] <rapalino> what's the diference between aptitude and apt-get? wich one would you recommend?
[18:25] <well_laid_lawn> apt works fine imo
[18:26] <yofel> apt-get usually. (especially if you're on 64bit oneiric) - aptitude is mostly used in debian and has a nice ncurses interface.
[18:26] <well_laid_lawn> there's more to apt then just apt-get
[18:27] <yofel> well yeah, s/apt-get/apt//
[18:27] <rapalino> i'm in kubuntu 11.10 32bit
[18:28] <orated> yofel: I don't see xorg.conf file - http://pastebin.com/1VFtjEeB
[18:28] <yofel> orated: which is good, now pastebin your Xorg.0.log
[18:28] <rapalino> wich one solve better the dependences or stuff like that?
[18:30] <orated> yofel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/719933/
[18:30] <yofel> rapalino: aptitude has a nicer way of resolving conflicts, but doesn't work right in oneiric amd64. apt-get will work fine usually
[18:31] <yofel> vesa o.O
[18:32] <rapalino> yofel: oh I see... i've reading aobut it... And i understood that aptitude is an "imporved" version of apt-get, is it tue?
[18:32] <yofel> well, it is using the intel card at least: [    16.797] (II) VESA(0): VESA VBE OEM Product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller
[18:33] <orated> Yes, but its like I've logged in from recover mode, the interface is weird
[18:33] <orated> yofel: Can nomodeset cause that?
[18:34] <yofel> well, it's vesa. And I guess the intel driver doesn't even try to start when nomodeset is used.
[18:34] <yofel> now I'm wondering how to tell it to use the nvidia card...
[18:34] <orated> Should I remove nomodeset from grub.conf?
[18:34] <orated> It was only quiet splash before
[18:35] <yofel> remove it. As I do not know how to get the nvidia card to work. It might make more sense to get the intel card to work right again
[18:35] <orated> ok
[18:36] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: whats the problem?
[18:36] <yofel> phoenix_firebrd: intel sandibridge / nvidia multiGPU setup
[18:36] <phoenix_firebrd> yofel: oh
[18:37] <orated> yofel: The main problem is that nvidia doesn't support optimus for linux. bumblebee is an ongoing project for the same
[18:38] <yofel> yeah. But I fear at least *I* am out of ideas right now
[18:39] <orated> Let me see if removing nomodeset works... I did not get about editting grub in recovery mode for 'single'
[18:42] <andrej> Hello, can anyone help me with a small glitch? Numlock is on when I start my session, but the light at the keyboard is off. If I press Numlock the light goes on but the keys behave like arrow block.
[18:42] <orated> yofel: Can this help - http://pastebin.com/pkgFSpZf ?
[18:42] <BluesKaj> ahh, double gpus ...no wonder
[18:43]  * BluesKaj goes back to raking .......leaves
[18:55] <wonderland64bits> hi
[18:55] <wonderland64bits> is there a hardcore programmer?
[18:55] <wonderland64bits> i have a question about qmake
[18:56] <wonderland64bits> i am trying to compile arora
[18:56] <wonderland64bits> typing qmake
[18:56] <wonderland64bits> but it outputs
[18:56] <BarkingFish> !enter | wonderland64bits
[18:56] <wonderland64bits> haha
[18:57] <wonderland64bits> cool bot
[18:57] <BarkingFish> artificial intelligence, powered by a human with keywords :)
[18:58] <wonderland64bits> as I said, i got this: arora.pro:1: Unknown test function: lessThan
[18:58] <BarkingFish> ok, firstly, what version of kubuntu are you working on?
[18:58] <wonderland64bits> i tried to comment this lines and qmake worked, but i got this with make
[18:59] <wonderland64bits> none, i use ubuntu with qt4-dev-tools
[18:59] <wonderland64bits> :P
[18:59] <BarkingFish> then you need to ask in #ubuntu please :)
[18:59] <BarkingFish> we deal with the KDE variety, regular ubuntu is dealt with down there :)
[18:59] <wonderland64bits> heh but they now gtk, not qt4
[19:00] <wonderland64bits> my question is about qt4 app building on arora browser
[19:00] <BarkingFish> they might be able to figure out a way round your problem from there.
[19:01] <wonderland64bits> ok, i'll try
[19:01] <wonderland64bits> see you
[19:04] <systemclient> I use vpnc, and it sometimes dies on me. I use a NetworkManager/dispatcher.d script to start it. How would I respawn it if it is dead?
[19:04] <systemclient> I would have to run the networkmanager script again I guess …
[19:10] <BarkingFish> oh crud. Guys, I need some help if someone's free.  I've just added a mobile broadband connection to networkmanager, and plasma has crashed - it's not restarted either, so I'm running with no desktop. Can I restart plasma without killing my whole session?
[19:13] <systemclient> BarkingFish: you mean your graphical session?
[19:14] <systemclient> BarkingFish: maybe with `plasma-desktop`?
[19:14] <systemclient> BarkingFish: that is the only thing with plasma in its name running on my KDE session now
[19:16] <BluesKaj> power bump..smart meters are online
[19:17] <BadDesign> Anyone knows whats the difference between NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (post-release updates) (version current-updates) AND (version current)[Recommended] in Additional Drivers ?
[19:18] <BadDesign> should I activate version current-updates or leave it at [Recommended] ?
[19:23] <BluesKaj> the postrelease driver is the nouveau driver , not the nvidia-current recommended driver , so install the rec'd driver in jockey
[19:23] <BluesKaj> BadDesign, ^
[19:25] <BadDesign> BluesKaj: thanks; I did that after our previous encounter; that did it for me, the reason for the unresponsive desktop was outdate NVIDIA drivers (i.e. 173) now I have nvidia-current and it works better
[19:26] <BluesKaj> bade the nvidia-current is the 280.13 , usually , unles your gfx card is realy old
[19:27] <BluesKaj> oops
[19:34] <DarthFrog> There's an excellent article on linux.com about the Semantic Desktop and the technology that KDE uses to create it.  If you've ever wondered just exactly what a semantic desktop is and what NEPOMUK has to do with it, it's a good primer.
[19:34] <DarthFrog> https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/498660-kde-4-leader-of-the-semantic-pack
[19:36] <sluckxz> anybody have x2goserver working on 11.10?
[19:37] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, nepomuk , such a dumb name
[19:38] <DarthFrog> It's an acronym:  Networked Environment for Personal, Ontology-based Management of Unified Knowledge
[19:38] <DarthFrog> Not that that is any better. :-)
[19:39] <DarthFrog> To me, nepomuk has always sounded like a pair of foul weather boots from the Inuit. :-)
[19:41] <BluesKaj> DarthFrog, well maybe they rearrange the acronym somewhat just to make it less strange sounding
[19:41] <BluesKaj> could rearrange
[19:43] <DarthFrog> That would simply create even more confusion.
[19:43] <BluesKaj> anyway I don't use it ...unnecessary load
[19:45] <BluesKaj> nor akonadi and kmail and kontact
[19:48] <DarthFrog> I don't use Kmail; I use Thunderbird simply because it handles HTML mail much better than Kmail.
[19:49] <DarthFrog> Mind you, I don't know that is still true.
[19:57] <brianc1969> Can anyone help with printing problems?
[19:59] <Joe_Dubya> I have a problem that I've been trying to solve for close to a year now (If it has a resolution at all)  It's related to getting s-video out to work on an older ati  200m thats integrated in to my laptop.  Thought I'd try some live help this time.
[20:01] <allegrem> Hi ! I've a little problem with Samba between a Kubuntu (as a server) and a Windows XP (as a client). My workgroup 'Samba' is shown in the workgroups list on Windows, but when I click on it, an error occurs "Nom du réseau introuvable" ( ~~ network name not found). Any idea ?
[20:05] <BluesKaj> Joe_Dubya, , I have an ati 200m , but it's on a desktop , but there is no s-video out connector .
[20:06] <Joe_Dubya> This one is on my laptop.  It used to work back when it was still supported by the proprietary driver, but not since.
[20:07] <Joe_Dubya> iLet me rephrase the model.  It was a radeon 200m express
[20:07] <BluesKaj> Joe_Dubya, the fglrx driver with catalyst ?
[20:08] <Joe_Dubya> yeah.  I can't use that anymore though since my card is no longer supported.  I was hoping there might be a way to get the S-video out on it working with the open source drivers.
[20:09] <Joe_Dubya> it seems to detect the S-video port as existing, but I jus can't get it to enable
[20:09] <BluesKaj> I lost 3d and DR support on 10.04 wth the ati 200m express and havent seen much help since :(
[20:09] <lelamal_> hi all, does anyone else get empty spaces in the taskbar, or is it just me? they are empty areas, ghost spaces where there shoud be an entry, but there is none, and all the other valid entries are pushed forward.
[20:12] <orated> hey BluesKaj, regarding the same issue, I can login now but I don't see desktop effects working. It was not working even before the problem just after upgrading kde to 4.7.2 .. any ideas?
[20:13] <allegrem> Any idea about my Samba problem ??
[20:14] <rob_0629> hello. longtime (...well, since 1998~ish) linux player-wither. :p i just have to say how surprised I am that IRC is still being used for anything. lol
[20:14] <rob_0629> don't have as much experience with the internal workings as that might imply though. x) what samba problem? kind of having one myself. i usually do after a fresh install. :P
[20:14] <rob_0629> always forget how to fix things. >_>a
[20:15] <rob_0629> and I'm starting to think orated, allegrem and myself are the only ones who aren't afk. xD
[20:15] <allegrem> I've configured my kubuntu as a file server, and I'd like to access files from a windows xp PC
[20:16] <andrej> Hello, I have problem that numlockx sets the status of numpad correctly but the led isn't set. Online I can finde many bug reports but no working solution
[20:16] <allegrem> the workgroup 'samba' appears in the workgroups list, but when I click on it, an error occurs "Nom du réseau introuvable" ( ~~ network name not found
[20:16] <orated> allegrem: Pastebin /etc/samba/smb.conf please
[20:16] <rob_0629> Ah.. there was an article on Ars Technica recently about how it's possible having the Internet as a reference at our fingertips at all times is affecting our ability to remember well, and I can attest to that... I feel like I'm always looking up solutions for problems I've fixed before.. lol
[20:17] <rob_0629> That being one of them. I just recently installed Kubuntu 11.10 on top of an old Ubuntu 9.10 installation (Unity bugs D: and KDE is fantasmical all of a sudden)
[20:17] <BluesKaj>  orated iknow very little about dual graphics cards ..sorry
[20:17] <rob_0629> Can't view Windows PCs from my Linux PC, kind of the reverse of your problem.
[20:18] <allegrem> orated: http://pastebin.com/uz0GYVb6
[20:18] <orated> BluesKaj: No problem.. my concern was as to why for 4.7.1 desktop effects was working fine and not for 4.7.2 now
[20:18] <rob_0629> My best advice would be that I'd give to myself: try to find an online guide/FAQ. XD Not much use i'm afraid. popped in to get my own question answered, actually.
[20:18] <BluesKaj> Joe_Dubya, have you seen this ?  http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/oneiric/man4/radeon.4.html
[20:18] <rob_0629> Pretty sure my issue is related to PulseAudio. Wine games/programs sound just 'goes away' after a few seconds. >_>a
[20:19] <Joe_Dubya>  not yet.  Reading it now
[20:20] <orated> allegrem: Did you try disabling firewall?
[20:21] <rob_0629> sooo yeah.. wine games worked perfectly with GNOME/ALSA, now sound quits after a few seconds/minutes under KDE/Pulse. Solution: replace Pulse with ALSA? should be possible, I think. I'd try it now except this Muon Package Manager thing is stalled on "Running post-installation trigger python-support". x_x
[20:21] <allegrem> orated: nothing is logged in ufw.log, I don't think it comes from my firewall
[20:22] <rob_0629> Allegrem, are these Windows 7 PCs by any chance? I wonder if the use of Homegroups has anything to do with this. :p
[20:22] <allegrem> Windows XP
[20:22] <rob_0629> Nevermind then~ Dx
[20:22] <allegrem> I rebooted the Windows XP and now 'samba' does not appear anymore in the workgroup list :(
[20:24] <rob_0629> You're able to see other networked computers I assume?
[20:24] <allegrem> from Windows ?
[20:24] <rob_0629> Suddenly realized I only have another 30 minutes to sit around here being lazy.. ~_~
[20:24] <rob_0629> Yeah, from the computer you can't see Samba shares from
[20:24] <rob_0629> I mean, if there are any :s
[20:24] <rob_0629> Can connect to the internet, etc..
[20:25] <Joe_Dubya> the radeon driver you mention is not the same as the r300 driver is it?
[20:25] <allegrem> I can see 'Mshome' which contains the local shared directories, and 'workgroup' which contains the files shared on my Neufbox
[20:26] <rob_0629> ok, another stupid question... has the linux PC gone to sleep by some chance? XD possible it's in another room or something, been away from it for awhile, idk D:)
[20:26] <allegrem> and it can connect to the internet, but it should work on local network
[20:27] <BluesKaj> rob_0629, pulse runs on top of alsa as a soundserver, however pulse isn't necessary with some sound cards, only if you want audio from several sources simultaneously
[20:27] <allegrem> I can see my both PCs,no one is sleeping !!
[20:27] <rob_0629> Hrmph.. well.. from there, that assumes the hardware is working just fine on both PCs XD
[20:27] <rob_0629> BluesKaj: ah, thought they were mutually exclusive variants of sound hardware control/config or something, kind of like GNOME/KDE. :p
[20:28] <rob_0629> Never had a problem with WINE games before and never used Pulse before that I can recall with GNOME distros, so was my first assumption. :p
[20:28] <rob_0629> allegrem, all I can guess is there's *probably* some kind of configuration you have to do from the linux machine.
[20:29] <BluesKaj> rob_0629, ,unfortunately that's a popular misconception
[20:29] <allegrem> I know, that's exactly all my question is about !!
[20:29] <rob_0629> for the record allegrem, I'm not a professional of any sort. xD all I can do for you is look up solutions with google. Dx
[20:29] <rob_0629> Just popped in to ask my l'il WINE question :P
[20:30] <rob_0629> i almost always wind up resolving issues like these myself with hours of trial and error ~_~ lol
[20:30] <allegrem> I've already tried to google it out, but it was no help ...
[20:30] <allegrem> is there any samba guru here ??
[20:30] <rob_0629> i remember almost always having problems with samba.. lol
[20:30] <rob_0629> like I said a moment ago, having one now. haven't really done much to set it up yet though.
[20:31] <rob_0629> would be nice if it would 'just work', but I'm gonna go ahead and blame windows for that. ;p
[20:31] <orated_> allegrem: maybe #samba ..
[20:31] <BluesKaj> I miss the google - linux DB ...it was much better than the garbage google spits out in the name linux nowadays
[20:31] <allegrem> I'm trying to reconfigure samba from scratch
[20:32] <allegrem> they're all dead on #samba !! that's weird !!
[20:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> any issues i should know about the newest KDE update before I update it?
[20:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> i've got 250 some other packages to update too, hence why i'm asking
[20:33]  * TheEvilPhoenix has an nvidia Quadros card, so if there's anything he should  know about, please tell him
[20:34] <rob_0629> TheEvilPhoenix: oddly enough the computers in the lab (which are fairly new) have quadros cards in them. i ran kubuntu 11.10 from a usb stick on 'em this past monday and had no problems. whether that information is beneficial for you or not is impossible to say. x)
[20:34] <BluesKaj> check your alsamixer settings before you complain about no audio , the rest depends on your hw, TheEvilPhoenix
[20:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> BluesKaj:  rob_0629:  note i'm still on natty, i havent updated to oneiric yet
[20:35] <rob_0629> BluesKaj: it starts up with audio and then goes *poof* after a few seconds. odd, right? ;p
[20:35] <TheEvilPhoenix> hence why i'm asking ;P
[20:35] <rob_0629> isnt a volume issue or anything. :p
[20:36] <rob_0629> tried diff wine versions too. ;3
[20:36] <BluesKaj> TheEvilPhoenix, , just keeo the audio thing in mind after upgrading
[20:37] <BluesKaj> rob_0629, some do yes , but not many , they tend turn on the auto mutr for dome reason
[20:37] <BluesKaj> mute
[20:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> BluesKaj:  if all else fails, i can just revert the audio package version back one, no?
[20:37] <TheEvilPhoenix> or is there a known fix?
[20:37] <BluesKaj> yes , unmute the audio :)
[20:38] <TheEvilPhoenix> ah i see
[20:38] <TheEvilPhoenix> ooo kernel update
[20:38] <TheEvilPhoenix> :p
[20:39] <BluesKaj> we've had numerous users come in and complain about no audio , a lot of them have the master amd pcm muted f
[20:39] <BluesKaj> and pcm . not amd
[20:40] <BluesKaj> TheEvilPhoenix, easly fixed in alsamixer
[20:41] <okellos> need help pls , synaptic package manager not starting up after update 11.10 it exits with a std::out_of_range'
[20:41] <Joe_Dubya> if I need to do anything with xorg.conf, would it be a simple as just creating a new xorg.conf file in /etc/X11 (Since oneiric doesn't seem to have one there?
[20:45] <genii-around> Joe_Dubya: Yup
[20:46] <Joe_Dubya> ok.  Just wondering.  It's ben a while since I've "messed around" with xorg.conf
[20:47] <GinoMan> can anyone help me with lightdm, I'm trying to add "Enlightenment" as a session and I added a *.desktop file in /usr/share/xsessions/
[20:47] <GinoMan> and it still doesn't see it
[20:48] <allegrem> ok i've got some fresh news : now I still have the same error on windows, but there is an error line in samba logs saying "Can't become connected user!". Any idea ?
[20:48] <BluesKaj> Joe_Dubya, sry..was away , yeah run.  sudo Xorg -configure
[20:49] <Joe_Dubya> ok. Thanks
[20:51] <rob_0629> allegrem: might need to set samba to log onto the network as one of the users on the windows machine? :p guessing as always. i gotta get going though. class in 2 hrs. :\
[20:52] <allegrem> I think he's trying to log as guest, but I don't allow guest connections !
[21:18] <hexacode> hey you guys this command wont work for me because the right half where i write to file wants me to do it with sudo...how the hell do i do that?  sudo ls -laR / > /home/ibmx37/tester
[21:28] <genii-around> hexacode_: sudo <whatever-here> | sudo tee -a /home/wherever/filename
[21:29] <genii-around> Although it's odd you need sudo there unless not your own home directory
[21:35] <li4uk> cvb
[21:36] <li4uk> hi
[21:53] <allegrem> ok I finally managed to configure Samba !! Is anyone interested in the solution or can I go to bed ?
[22:01] <tuv0k> did not notice samba being broken?
[22:08] <MarcoPau> just writing to make sure we're not having major problems with kubuntu oneiric upgrade. have friends on ubuntu that are suffering quite much with unity and such... do you give me the green light? :)
[22:14] <dacresni> hey how do I setup automatic crash reporting or saving on Oneric Osolot ? i want to record the bactrace on kernel panics
[22:14] <dacresni> there's got to be a way to save them
[22:14] <RandomRoger> MarcoPau, You need to make your own choice on that, all I can tell you is I just did a fresh install of  Kubuntu 11.10 with no problems.
[22:15] <RandomRoger> In fact I love it :)
[22:15] <dacresni> perhaps but I i keep getting kernel panics
[22:15] <dacresni> they happened before so I wanted to find out if it was my graphics chipset or my wireless card
[22:15] <dacresni> i have a wireless card in my desktop
[22:16] <well_laid_lawn> could be your memory too
[22:17] <dacresni> well, im not sure how I could have gotten that wrong sense i made that matchup before I built the thing'
[22:18] <MarcoPau> RandomRoger: yea but the issue is related to all the problems that people are having with gnome/unity. I assume we won't have to deal with that...
[22:18] <RandomRoger> Kubuntu does not use gnome/unity
[22:18] <SIR_Taco> dacresni: it's definately something hardware related...
[22:18] <dacresni> but this is kde
[22:18] <RandomRoger> It uses KDE hence the name, Kubuntu
[22:19] <dacresni> thats why I'm here
[22:19] <dacresni> anyway, I  have kexec installed but I'm usign gnome2 so
[22:19] <dacresni> the crashkernel declaration is undocumented if that feature even exists in gnome2
[22:19] <dacresni> i know it was there in gnome1
[22:19] <dacresni> wowo
[22:20] <dacresni> i mean grub
[22:20] <dacresni> all 3 of those times i wrote gnome i meant grub
[22:20] <dacresni> i'll check the grub irc
[22:20] <dacresni> if it exists
[22:20] <SIR_Taco> dacresni: have you run MemTest from the grub menu? (it will take a long time)
[22:21] <dacresni> yes
[22:21] <dacresni> its only 2 gigs, im sure i've done this befor but i'll do it again
[22:23] <SIR_Taco> if you get a kernel panic, it's more than likely hardware related... RAM is often a likely cause, but it could be any card/device you have installed
[22:24] <dacresni> thanks
[22:24] <dacresni>  if i disconnect the wireless card and still get a kernhel panic, i've ruled out the wireless, as for the graphics chipset ...
[22:24] <SIR_Taco> dacresni: potentially yes
[22:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> dacresni:  know the kernel panic error message?
[22:24] <dacresni> i'll have to use a pci graphics card and tell the bios to bypass the southbridge or somethign
[22:24] <TheEvilPhoenix> usually you can use those to diagnose
[22:25] <dacresni> ha! thats why i suspect the wireless
[22:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> okay lemme rephrase
[22:25] <dacresni> the backtrace sais stuff about irqs and wireless stack
[22:25] <dacresni> somewhere in there
[22:25] <TheEvilPhoenix> "What was the kernel panic message?"
[22:25] <dacresni> thats why i want to record them
[22:26] <dacresni> its black and a long bactrace with "kernel panic " near the middle
[22:26] <SIR_Taco> aaah ok
[22:26] <SIR_Taco> have you tried another wireless card?
[22:27] <dacresni> that is a backtrace right? that black screen that reminds me of a python backtrace except folowed by a coredump
[22:27] <dacresni> no i have not
[22:27] <dacresni> I only have one
[22:28] <SIR_Taco> can you pastebin the panic?
[22:29] <dacresni> ... again, i can't record them
[22:29] <SIR_Taco> dacresni: do you know which wireless card you have?
[22:29] <dacresni> yes
[22:29] <dacresni> a realtech um ... let me grab the lspci
[22:30] <dacresni> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 03)
[22:30] <SIR_Taco> laptop?
[22:30] <dacresni> no desktop
[22:31] <SIR_Taco> ok
[22:31] <dacresni> how long far back  did you scroll ? no offence ^)^
[22:31] <dacresni> i don't mean to sound annoyed but ... I thought you read that
[22:31] <TheEvilPhoenix> dacresni:  does iwconfig show that is a wifi card?
[22:31] <TheEvilPhoenix> that looks like an ethernet controller tbh
[22:32] <SIR_Taco> have you tried : http://djlab.com/2010/10/fixing-rtl8111-8168b-driver-debian-ubuntu/
[22:32] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^
[22:32] <dacresni> http://paste.kde.org/138223/
[22:33] <SIR_Taco> dacresni: I may have missed that, or wasn't paying attention, I'm sorry, but I have things to do apart from IRC like everyone else
[22:33] <dacresni> you're shitting me
[22:33] <TheEvilPhoenix> !language
[22:33] <dacresni> that looks exactly like what i'm seeing
[22:34] <dacresni> that was not directed at Sr. Taco sorry
[22:34] <dacresni> I"ll watch it
[22:34] <Belial`> you're pooping me
[22:34] <SIR_Taco> Belial`: quit pooping your pooping poop for poop sakes :P
[22:35] <Belial`> poop is so much funnier anyway.
[22:35] <SIR_Taco> Belial`: true haha
[22:35] <dacresni> heh
[22:35] <dacresni> if I blacklist the driver, how will the wireless card be used?
[22:36] <SIR_Taco> it will use the next best thing... which should be the 'old' driver
[22:36] <TheEvilPhoenix> ^
[22:36] <dacresni> oh
[22:37] <SIR_Taco> dacresni: having said that... I would read through that entire post and make sure that's the case... I just skimmed it
[22:37] <dacresni> I'll check
[22:37] <dacresni> thanks
[22:38] <SIR_Taco> np
[22:46] <Stone_> hi!I want to know why it shows "mail dispatcher agent is wrong".kubunt 11.10
[22:47] <Stone_> I've already googled that...
[22:47] <SIR_Taco> Stone_: what email client do you use?
[22:47] <Stone_> I don't use any email client
[22:48] <Stone_> I didnt' set up any email client
[22:48] <SIR_Taco> Stone_: well that's why I guess... it complains to me if I don't have Thunderbird open....
[22:50] <Stone_> Thunderbird is not installed. kmail  is. I've removed kmail.
[22:51] <Stone_> it still shows everytime I log in
[22:53] <SIR_Taco> Stone_: It shows to me everytime I log-in as well... if Thunderbird isn't open.... The "Message Indicator" plasmoid looks for open message applications (e-mail/messenger/etc.) and reports back. You could just hide the messenger plasmoid if you don't want/need it
[22:54] <Stone_> Well,this must be a BIG bug I think.Thank you!
[22:55] <SIR_Taco> not sure I"d call it a big bug... but an annoyance yes
[22:55] <sluckxz> i think it is a kde / akonadi bug.  these are the main consisitent errors i have seen on fresh installs since beta 1.
[22:58] <hexacode> hey you guys  ls | grep '*' | tail -f -     umm...tail -f keeps waiting for more input, meaning its probably stuck to the pipe...so where did my grep go? did that program close? also, how do i send stuff into that pipe that tail -f is still attached to ?
[23:10] <well_laid_lawn> hexacode: you shouldn't grep ls try using find instead
[23:11] <hexacode> well_laid_lawn: thanks ill look into that tool.
[23:11] <well_laid_lawn> find /path -iname filename*
[23:54] <reinaldo> After upgrade to Oneiric the radio4 and alsmixergui only work as expected if I run them as root. What could be the problem?
[23:58] <reinaldo_> After upgrade to Oneiric the radio4 and alsmixergui only work as expected if I run them as root. What could be the problem?