[00:18] xubuntu seems ok apart from the menu bar at the bottom of the screen [00:18] how do you remove it [00:18] is irritating [00:20] can be minimized but i haven't managed to get rid of it [00:22] Good news is you can get rid of it, bad news is I forgot how i did it :D [00:23] maybe run 'xwininfo' from a terminal window then click on it to get the name, then kill it or google it to findout how to make it go away. I'm out, see ya all tommorrow :D [00:23] just right click to remove it :) [00:23] rightclick -> panel [00:28] yeah, its a panel like the other one rhin0 [00:28] which i appreciate since its integrated, and not an extra piece of software [00:30] anyone using compiz ? [00:40] holstein, I got compiz going pretty much the way I want it. [00:41] w30: you mind talking about it a bit? [00:41] im having a bit of a hassle [00:41] holstein, except for window border selection [00:41] unfrotunately, i only have a few minutes, and i dont have the mahcine in front of me now [00:41] holstein, I can try [00:41] w30: really, just hearing that you got it and its working is enough [00:41] makes me feel hopeful about it ;) [00:45] w30: is this pretty much all you did? [00:45] compiz --replace ccp & [00:47] holstein, yes that should give basic compiz but you need to check some options like window decorations etc, in ccms (configure application) [00:48] holstein, you really need ccms downloades to get windows to resize, maximumize etc. [00:49] yeah, i got that, but for example... my virtual desktops go away, and i cant seem to make them come back under compiz [00:49] i might have borked something using CCSM [00:49] CCMS* [00:51] holstein, you have to set them with ccms, general options desktop size mine is horizontal 4 vertical 1 Number of desktops 1 [00:51] w30: OK [00:51] thats helpful [00:51] i'll look again [00:52] i think im just getting used to what is what coming from gnome [00:53] w30: thanks... BBL [00:54] dcc chat holstein [00:54] how do you force an application to quit (probably with CLI)? [00:55] zacarias: "man kill" [00:55] (there are different signals you can send a program to kill it) [00:55] s/program/process/ [00:55] zacarias, use ps auxw to find the pid then kill -9 pid [00:56] ball: "man kill"? wouldn't it be necessary to specify the app? [00:56] zacarias, sledgehammer way killall [00:56] w30: I'd probably try HUP first, it's more gentle. [00:57] zacarias: "man" shows you the manual page [00:57] ball, yeah you are right, I assume he has emergency and needs quick help [00:58] w30: fair enough. [01:01] ball, like his cat stood on his print screen key hehe [01:01] w30: thanks. Yes, I needed quick help. ball: thanks too [02:58] I would like to edit my applications menu. How can I get to it? [03:17] w30 sudo apt-get install alacarte [03:17] w30: What version of Xubuntu? [03:18] works on 11.04 [03:18] The newly released Xfce 4.8 is included. The menus in Xfce 4.8 are now editable with any menu editor that meets the freedesktop.org standards. The suggested editor is alacarte. " [03:18] Won't help him if he's using 10.04 though [03:19] ok [03:19] Also, you bring it half of gnome if you don't use --no-install-recommends [03:21] nice to know.... [03:23] Unit193 edited my page on wiki to reflect this...http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Ubuntu#Sugar_Desktop_0.94_on_xubuntu_11.04 [03:25] satellit_: That's great! First time hearing of the program though. Did you try it or are you trusting a random internet person? ;) I am just trying to help, not beat you down :) [03:26] Unit193: I test for sugarlabs. the Sweets_sugar install should work flawlessly on any Ubuntu variant 11.04... [03:26] I have a 250 GB external USB install with it here. works geat [03:26] s/great [03:27] that's bad regex there... [03:27] ;) [03:28] Also on trisquel 5 sugar http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Community/Distributions/Sweets_Distribution#Releases [03:30] * w30 is on 11.10 [03:30] \agemoi100 [03:49] which window manager does xubuntu use?, can i use metacity so as to use themes for metacity? [03:50] it uses xfwm, I don't know about replacing it with other wms though [03:54] anybody? [03:54] alacarte works fine on xubuntu 11.10 *big smile* [03:55] Great we are glad it worked [04:08] techvish81, i use gtk themes in my xubuntu but I think you can use what you like. Right now I am confused about xfvwm4 xfce4 gtk-window-decorator and how they make up a desktop [04:09] agemoi100 [04:12] techvish81, metacity is in synaptic [04:13] i want to change my file manager to nautilus, without changing the desktop environment to gnome, is it possible? [04:14] metacity is there but only installation will do or i will have to do something? [04:18] i have got a high end system and i was trying all the distros there to get an alternative to ubuntu, i liked xubuntu and installed it, i'm quite satisfied by it , but still i'm missing somethings, eyecandy and filemanager functionality. [04:19] compositing option is very good though.! [04:20] techvish81, I hace installed stuff that pulls in some gnome libs as dependencies so I would suggest make a install click then chec what dependencies it wants to pull along with it [04:20] techvish81, before you apply [04:21] techvish81, if it wants gnome then back out [04:24] techvish81, Heh, I'm in here because of gnome3 in fedora and unity in ubuntu. KDE always was bloated in my mind so I never got to see KDE4 [04:24] i installed nautilus, it pulled som gnome libs as dependencies, now i want to set it as default and use it without full gnome environment, [04:25] techvish81, I am just like you except I have got fedora 15 Unity 11.04 and xubuntu 11.10 being triple booted [04:27] kde is a real headache, i installed kubuntu but it kept crashing repeatedly, and i was unable to connect to my dsl, so i installed gnome network manager applet, but it messed my system and the popup menus where flying high as if filled with helium or something [04:29] they were free to appear anywhere in the desktop. i killed them all...... formatted my system hahahah [04:32] how is fedora? i've not tried it yet. [04:32] techvish81, try settings preferred applications the utilities in the application and check nautilus [04:33] tried but it does nothing except showing nautilus there [04:35] techvish81, its got the awful full screen window for applications; I mean to open an app you have to click on a button and a whole page of 1 inch icons open up and still you have to scroll. [04:37] techvish81, it turns your computer into a 2 foot square smart phone [04:38] techvish81, duh, I can't wait to get a tuch screen with peanut butter and jelly or Pork Rind grease all over it. [04:39] u mean icecream sandwich? [04:39] techvish81, I will for once agree with Steve Jobs on this call. [04:42] techvish81, ha, good one *smile* [04:42] jobs was a real businessmen rather than a technogeek, he decided to take on the upper and uppermiddle class for his products, and tried to make it a style/status symbol to create an extra urge in the hearts of customer [04:45] i gonna go now , [06:52] hi im getting disconnected from wifi very often i noticed that a diffrent firmware is loaded rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin than my adapter : Realtek RTL8188CUS - can this be the reason? [06:53] it should say something about it in dmesg [06:56] before the disconnect happens [06:56] i get [ 2327.376116] cfg80211: All devices are disconnected, going to restore regulatory settings [06:56] 2329.379679] wlan0: authentication with 98:0c:82:3b:6f:6a timed out [06:59] do you think there is a better driver it could be using? [07:02] i dont know realtek has one [07:02] but it isnt for 3.0 kernel [07:04] I thought realtek had good support in the kernel - I don't use any realtek tho [07:26] Hi there! could anybody tell how to change combination of keys for switching between desktops? [08:06] hi, can anyone tell me how to turn compositing on with 11.10, accidently turned it off on my account. [08:07] it's in window manager tweaks [08:08] Where can i find that as it's not in settings. [08:09] Sorry, being dumb found it === KM0201_ is now known as KM0201 [10:52] hello [10:53] problem with graphic cards was resolve :] [10:53] legacy drives was problem :P [10:54] now I have question, I have Blueman [10:54] and connect with my Phone but cant explore it, cause app say that in system isnt installed nautilus [10:54] how I can avoid it? [11:53] anybody knows how i can disable shorcut ALT + LMB in XFCE ? [11:54] kasztan85: you can bind it to a different key than alt [11:54] how? [11:54] kasztan85: in the window manager tweaks [11:54] kasztan85: second tab, afair [11:55] tab "accessibility" (3rd tab) [12:16] TheSheep, thx :) [12:23] hi [13:01] wc [13:01] oops === ubuntu_ is now known as wehgwg [13:31] Why can I not get any vim colorschemes to work correctly in the terminal? [13:32] I can see that the colors have changed, but they don't look like the screenshots [13:33] They look bad [13:37] Also, my cursor seems to change size when I move away from some windows [13:37] It becomes huge [13:37] I tried changing the cursor settings, but it only affects the cursor when it is over some windows [13:37] like Firefox or the terminal [13:40] wehgwg: the screenshots are probably made from gvim [13:40] wehgwg: which is a gui app, so has more colors available [13:41] wehgwg: normal vim is a terminal app and so only has 16 colors [13:44] :( [13:45] it's possible to set up your terminal to support 256 colors [13:46] http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/Using_GUI_color_settings_in_a_terminal [13:46] but I never bothered [13:46] Found this [13:46] will try the guicolorscheme plugin [13:47] cool [13:48] Are plugins loaded automatically or do I need to do something in .vimrc? [13:50] I would ask at #vim [13:50] they know much better [13:57] YAY [13:57] :D [13:57] Proper colors in terminal vim [13:57] I am so happy [13:57] ALL HAIL VIM [16:43] Hey guys. I'm running tightvnc server and it was working perfectly until I rebooted. Now I've got no desktop, just a black/yellow screen and a cross for a cursor. Anyone able to help? [16:44] hmmm [16:44] i do not know what a tightvnc is [16:44] :/ [16:45] sorry [16:45] vnc server [16:45] How do I reconfigure xorg? [16:45] so you are trying to access to a xubuntu desktop, or from a xubuntu desktop [16:45] antnash: fastway: delete xorg.conf [16:46] its autoconfigurable, if it worked it will work again [16:46] to xubuntu, and I don't have xorg.conf [16:46] where would it be? [16:47] there isn't one [16:47] No, I have no xorg.conf [16:48] oh [16:48] how do you want to configure xorg? [16:48] thats weird then [16:48] no, it's not really [16:48] :-D [16:48] xorg is autoconfigured by the system, if you don't have xorg.conf that's normal [16:49] Myrtti, my problem is that my vnc server has all of a sudden gone wrong. No desktop being displayed [16:49] Just a cross as a cursor [16:49] well that sounds more like a problem of the desktop environment than x [16:49] xorg is working fine, it's the desktop environment that's missing [16:50] I'm using startxfce4 to start it. Is there another way? [16:50] like exec xfce-session? [16:50] Something like that? [16:50] you don't have a DM to manage logging in and selection of the environment? [16:51] This is with vnc [16:51] huh. Wierd, it's back [16:52] Anyway, is the way xubuntu starts exec xfce4-session ? [17:00] Does anyone know the command that xubuntu uses to kick off an xfce session? [17:01] it's a whole bunch of commands, afaik [17:26] when I switch to a virtual terminal with ctrl alt Fn and back the desktop won't redraw. If I select a rectangle with the mouse it redraws. Nvidia Driver problems? [17:28] What driver should I use for GForce 7900 GT/GTO [17:36] antnash, look at startx,it uses xinit and parses xclient xsession etc. last time I looked anyway [17:37] w30, that's not my only problem. I just tried to run 'sudo software-center' and it killed the vnc session [17:38] If I try and run any graphical programs which require sudo then I get no permission [17:38] because you should gksu? [17:39] !gksu [17:39] If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) [17:41] GridCube, It's even when I run them from the app menu [17:42] as i said earlier, i know near nothing about vnc :( [17:44] antnash, I ran vnc sometime ago and could only get startkde to work so I am awfully dumb on that. [17:44] lol [17:44] hi [17:45] =) [17:45] Well I got xfce working, but not the full dekstop === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [17:45] somebody knows how i make xubuntu to starts the numpad automaticlly ? [17:47] I use numlockx added to autostarted apps [17:47] antnash, the trouble with startx is that it's set to run on display:0 so you would have to redo startx somehow [17:47] antnash, I nver made it any further *frown* [17:48] moetunes, thanks =) [17:48] np [17:48] lol [17:49] moetunes, and do you know how to make the ntfs partitions to start with ubuntu ? [17:49] !fstab | badapple [17:49] badapple: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions [17:49] there's no way to pass parameters to startxfce4 or xfce4-session then? [17:51] moetunes, thanks but i dont know what to write in /etc/fstab [17:51] :/ [18:02] badapple, can you mount the drives from the gui after you start the desktop? [18:04] if you can, make a mount point and modify the mtab entry and put it in fstab [19:23] hi there, just installing xubuntu 11.10 on my flash usb: maybe in 12.04 I'll switch from Ubuntu to Xubuntu :) [19:36] guys how can i open a folder like root without installing nautilus ? [19:38] sudo thunar [19:38] !gksu [19:38] If you need to run graphical applications as root, use « gksudo », as it will set up the environment more appropriately. Never just use "sudo"! (See http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/graphicalsudo to know why) [19:39] badapple: You should be able to right click in the folder and "Open folder as root" [19:40] Unit193, yes , i did it =) i just added the option "gksudo thunar" =) [19:41] but now comes and my new question :D .. how can i install emerald ? [19:42] it gives me an error ( E: Could not find the package emerald ) .. [19:42] I can tell you how to install, but not set it up. Afaik, emerald was a little broken in Oneiric [19:42] Unit193, i know how to set it =) .. [19:43] Unit193, so can you tell me how to install it ' [19:43] ? [19:43] emerald has been dropped afaik [19:43] !info emerald [19:43] Package emerald does not exist in oneiric [19:43] Yep [19:43] damn =( [19:44] and how i change the compiz themes ? :S [19:44] !compiz [19:44] Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz [19:44] well_laid_lawn, the themes .. i already have it installed [19:45] did you even read the bot reply? [19:45] i dont speak very well english sorry :D .. [19:45] i will look it [19:47] well_laid_lawn, can you explain how can i chose themes i really dont understand nothing from the forum [19:48] badapple: I don't use compiz sorry - try in the compiz channel if no one else here knows [19:51] well_laid_lawn, ok thanks =) [20:08] somebody knows when ubuntu 12.04 is coming ? [20:08] april 2012 [20:08] Year.Month ... [20:08] thanks =) [20:32] does anybody know why when i click the botton for muting audio and when i press it again the audio did not starts ? .. it sirve only for muting =( [20:51] one of my two xubuntu installation shows the onscreen keyboard after i login. how can i permanently disable (not just hide) it? [20:51] i couldn't find it in the session's autostart-tab [20:51] /etc/xdg/autostart/onboard-autostart.desktop has OnlyShowIn=GNOME;Unity; [20:51] pimperle: you need to disable gnome services [20:51] set, so it should not start [20:51] ah, i see [20:52] so gnome-services means anything with GNOME in it in /etc/xdg/autostart/ [20:52] settings -> session and startup -> advanced [20:52] wow, weechat has tab-completion support when chatting [20:52] untick "launch gnome services on startup" [20:52] but won't disabling gnome services also disable other parts? [20:52] it's a known bug [20:54] the /etc/xdg/autostart/ file mentions a GSetting called screen-keyboard-enabled. maybe i could disable that setting somewhere [20:55] pimperle: i've had no problems since disabling the gnome services [20:55] i can't see what they were doing when they were enabled [20:56] i once used the gnome keyring daemon to automatically add ssh keys upon login [20:56] but it broke 2 or three releases ago and i never tried it again [20:57] ok, i disabled it and will see if it comes back next time i log in [20:59] what is the current state of the gnome keyring usage in xfce? do i have to prevent ssh-agent from starting in order to use the gnome daemon? [21:35] now i set a value in xfconf-query to disable the ssh agent, now i need to setup the session to eval the output of gnome-keyring-daemon [21:35] where can i enable that? [21:41] maybe in autostarted apps [21:41] well, i enabled the gnome services again and the keyring daemon's variables are properly set [21:41] now i'm back at removing the automatic startup of the keyboard [21:41] i thing, a short rm -f in /etc/xdg/autostart is in order [23:43] Was wondering if the 11.10 installer has facilities to minimize wear and optimize performance when installing to SSD?