[00:04] who here has messed with grub crashkernel [00:05] brb [00:08] hello everybody [00:38] Back from class, same weird problem. WINE program (Guild Wars :P) has sound/music at the login screen but after I log in, sound is gone. Suggestions? :P lol [00:39] (not a volume/mixer issue :P) [00:39] * rob_0629 sits on his hands and waits~ === ironfroggy_ is now known as Guest8799 === Guest8799 is now known as ironfroggy__ [01:12] im using kubuntu 11.10. the update manager thingy (apper) says there is an update to a package, but then fails to download it with a 404 error. is there any way to clear this update from apper so it doesnt keep trying to grab that file? [01:16] hi guys, I'm wondering if anybody here has experience using the hp toolbox [01:17] er the HPLIP Toolbox [01:20] hmmm. it seems that running "sudo apt-get upgade" in the terminal is able to upgrade that package that apper fails to get. [01:40] How can you change the authentication source on kubuntu to use NIS? === claydoh_ is now known as claydoh [02:02] anyone know a decent filtering utility for ubuntu that converts to and from any of the following hex, binary, ascii , and maybe even character encodings [02:10] hexacode: if you want a commandline hex dump, there's od [02:21] thanks PhilRod === hexacode is now known as Guest10044 [02:30] how does ssh forward a local port for its tunneling? does it somehow get into the kernel and get access to the packets before they go outbound, and look at their source port? then copy the data and send it to ssh ? then drop the packet from the kernel so it doesnt go out the clients port? [03:10] Hey guys. In Natty, Muon Package Manager (I installed it separately) had a button to retrieve a screenshot for a package, just like in Synaptic. In Oneiric, however, that button is gone. Did they remove that feature or something? [03:15] afink: ping [03:16] hexacode: Nothign gets into the kernel. It asks the kernel to do something for it or it bypasses the kernel completely. We call the bypass ones rootkits === skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [03:16] claydoh_: ping [03:23] any reason why strigi would keep indexing the same file over and over again? the files have not changed [04:41] i wonder why in the world amarok places a lot of tracks in 'various artists', when it clearly knows who the artist is [04:42] i also wish the colors used in the tool tips could be changed, as they make the text nearly unreadable as they are [04:46] I think there is an amarok channel [04:50] well_laid_lawn: yea, i went there after i asked the question here [04:50] cheers :) [04:50] :) [04:50] how do I find out the name of a plasmoid? like the notifications one is notifications and the calendar is calendar. I don't meant the title when I go add widget [04:52] vehemoth: i have wondered the same thing... under 'add widget', the names really should match the actual name of the widget. the way it is now is really stupid [05:18] can anyone help me with my mouse and unreal tournament 2004?? it keeps centering on the center left everytime i try to move it and does same thing while in game and not just in the menu.. how do i fix it? [05:19] jmichaelx: not sure but it seems that widgits are the ones in /usr/share/kde4/services that start with Application and you use that name without the Application part and in lower case [05:20] nah I'm sure that's wrong [05:24] vehemoth: what are you looking for? there is plasma umm debuggy thingy [05:24] starn: only when UT starts? [05:24] Daskreech: I've found the particular one I'm looking for, I was just wondering how you tell [05:25] vehemoth: Not .. sure I just use the filters to find things [05:25] and I guess I've been around KDE Long enough to just kinda know. [05:25] daskreech all over ut.... menus in game etc.. [05:26] starn: Man I'd have to dig that out now to figure that out [05:26] starn: is it the linux install of UT? [05:26] Daskreech: my problem is I'm trying to use things without a full plasma desktop and it's hard to find help for some of the harder problems [05:27] vehemoth: you have 1/2 a plasma? [05:27] daskreech yes most defiantly linux install. from the actual CD's surprisingly. [05:27] isn't that just hot gas? :) [05:27] starn: Yeah. I would guess hit epic's forum and ask [05:27] you can run plasmoids by themeselves using plasma-windowed [05:28] so I'm doing that with kwin and krunner. using a different bar and different desktop [05:28] daskreech do they even still support linux?? i mean i've not seen an linux installer for UT3 [2007] [05:28] starn: in ... theory..? [05:29] they have Linux on the box of the games they put out and they pay Ryan to have Linux support but they have not actually put out any linux support for the last three games [05:29] Daskreech: i know they supported linux all the way till 2004 ut.... :\ why they stopped beats me i heard they supposedly was working on one for 2007 but i've yet to see light.. [05:29] When asked they still say yes they have been working on it [05:29] starn: I suppose having Microsoft as a publishing partner would be interesting [05:30] Daskreech: indeed.. which lately i've been hearing microsoft has been supporting linux.. [highly doubtful] [05:30] vehemoth: Yep I know plasma-windowed. I suppose you could jump into #plasma and just let them know what you are doing. [05:31] They might take it into consideration when doing packaging to name or categorize the actual plasmoids more intuitively [05:31] starn: well they are the biggest sponsor of LinuxConf and the open android conference [05:32] starn: in terms of actually putting out anything to help Linux not really [05:32] they have code in the kernel [05:32] Daskreech: really??!?!?! my heart may of just stopped dude.. thanks.. haha ima try to see if my game needs patching.. just thought of that.. [05:34] starn: It's to support Linux running as a sub process under Windows Server but yes they do [05:35] hey you guys. im reading a man page and have absolutely no idea wat this means "-C Canonical hex+ASCII display. Display the input offset in hexadeci‐ mal, followed by sixteen space-separated, two column, hexadecimal bytes, followed by the same sixteen bytes in %_p format enclosed in ``|'' characters. [05:36] the %_p format is what i dont understnad [05:36] is that some scripting lingo that i dont know about? [05:36] hexacode: od ? [05:36] hexdump [05:37] the %_p is the query? [05:39] how am i supposed to know that? [05:39] is it like a scripting convention to write arguments like that? [05:41] Daskreech: i forgot the copy command .... cp??? [05:42] starn: yes [05:43] hexacode: it's explained further on in the manpage [05:45] hey Daskreech i have another issue.. with games... example. openarena. it won't let me set res and always stritches across both monitors.. i only want it to display on one.. [05:46] starn: hmm haven't played with Games across multiple monitors for a few years [05:46] starn: check in #gametome or #phoronix [05:46] Daskreech: is it in freenode? [05:46] one should help with games the other should help with driver issues etc [05:50] starn: yes [05:51] ? [05:54] jmichaelx: to list all the widgets, plasmoidviewer --list [05:55] Daskreech: they said it could be my dual monitor setup causing both issues... grrr. [05:59] starn: sounds about right. [06:00] starn: though the center left statement makes a lot more sense now when I know it's dual monitor === administrator is now known as Guest80959 [06:03] Daskreech: how would i copy an entire folder to another folder for i wanna copy ut2004-patch contents to where i installed ut.. but when i do cp /ut2004-patch/ /installpath/ it puts that folder there not the stuff in the folder. [06:04] cp -r or cp /ut2004-patch/* /installpath/ [06:04] either will work [06:05] Daskreech: thanks wish i wasn't forgetfull haha [06:05] :-) [06:07] Daskreech: omitting dicertory does mean copying? right??? if so i think i did it right.. [06:08] starn: Hmm? [06:08] it says cp: omitting directory `/home/starn/Downloads/UT2004-Patch/Animations' [06:09] basically i do not know the definition of omitting. === Guest80959 is now known as amazonove [06:23] Daskreech: you good with crontab thingy?? i been trying to make it automatically change my backgrounds in xubuntu.. i mainly use kubuntu for pretty stuff.. haha [06:24] starn: sorry omitting means leaving out [06:24] starn: http://www.howtoforge.com/xfce_desktop_background_wallpaper_changer [06:25] Daskreech: Make sure that the Allow Xfce to manage the desktop. i do not have a thingy to mark that states that.... [06:27] starn: can you give it a list of images to use for the wallpaper? [06:30] if you can then run xfdesktop -reload from the terminal [06:30] let me know if the wallpaper changes [06:35] Daskreech: xfdesktop --reload works. [06:36] starn: new wallpaper? [06:36] Daskreech: yes new wallpapers.. [06:36] */5 * * * * export DISPLAY=:0; /usr/bin/xfdesktop --reload in your crontab should work then [06:37] Daskreech: that may be my problem!!! -reload didn't work but --reload did and i am pretty sure i copied and pasted that! [06:37] Sorry should have been --reload :) [06:38] so now i wait five minutes. [06:41] Daskreech: does DISPLAY=:0; effect both monitors or just one?? lol sorry i ask you so many questions. [06:41] ermm [06:41] the main one I think [06:41] Unless you have an extended desktop then it will be both [06:41] What's in your display variable now? [06:42] twinview. it functions as two monitors and at the same time functions as one... kinda like on windows.. [06:42] you probably should just replicate that [06:42] starn: what does echo $DISPLAY say now? [06:43] :1.0 so i assume i change the display thingy to DISPLAY=:1.0; ? [06:44] yes [06:46] should the " : " be that or should it be a ;? [06:48] Daskreech: when nano asks to save.. i noticed it wants to save in /tmp/crontab.1HtaVx/crontab should i change that? [06:48] starn: no [06:49] crontab will check the permissions on it and replace as needed [06:49] Hello. Does any body where "System Settings -> Desktop -> Screen Edges" is in Kubuntu? I have my bar on the left side and every time I move the mouse to the top left corner I execute the "scale / present windows" plugin [06:49] starn: assuming you are editing with crontab -e [06:49] Daskreech: ok thanks.. i haven't been so i was unsure. so now i just wait.. yay waiting.. [06:49] you can see what's there with crontab -l [06:49] I meant: Does anybody know* [06:50] Daskreech: IT CHANGED!! you're a life saver! [06:50] JorgeGarciaR: Umm. Other than System Settings -> Desktop -> Screen Edges? [06:50] JorgeGarciaR: alt+F2 -> screen edges [06:50] starn: no I'm a desktop killer :) [06:51] Daskreech: in that case i ask that you don't kill my desktop :P [06:51] starn: That's what changes the wallpaper [06:52] Daskreech: ohhh i get it.. the reload command is telling the entire desktop to reload? not just the background...... ? [06:52] starn: yes but the thing that will get affected is the wallpaper [06:53] Everything else remains the same [07:03] Daskreech: Thanks! [07:39] how can i keep pulseaudio from starting when kde starts? [07:48] hi there [07:57] hi does anyone know why im getting that pesky Error: Bad passphrase when trying to decrypt/encrypt email in kmail in oneric [07:57] (note it's a clean install with a clean setup) [07:58] seems to ork correctly in thunderbird [07:58] hmm okay thats odd it worked for an old email but then crashed === Axlin_ is now known as Axlin [08:49] hi [08:51] my computer is connected to MS Windows network and i dont see computer names properly (names are not in EN) [08:51] what can i do to fix it? [09:13] Fleck: Uninstall pulseaudio? [09:13] john32: maybe it's sent with a GPG key? [09:16] Daskreech that was not my question, please read again! [09:16] Daskreech: nah it was an old email which i have the key in my ring [09:17] right now im just trying to figure out why i can't get email send. [09:17] Fleck: hmm you could put a pulseaudio -k in your bashrc [09:17] smtp.gmail.com fullusername@gmail.com TLS on port 587 with PLAIN authentication [09:17] i thought that was the correct SMTP settings for Kmail [09:19] just sees to sit in my local folders outbox [09:20] oh maybe its a bug [09:20] https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=278020 :P [09:20] KDE bug 278020 in general "KMail cannot send e-mail via SMTP" [Normal,New] [09:22] ------- Comment #12 From Stephan Diestelhorst 2011-08-24 11:51:43 ------- [09:22] Same here. Could someone please increase priority? An Email client that cannot [09:22] send is severely broken. === root is now known as Guest17479 === djallu is now known as D_74_LU === cnx_ is now known as al13n1x [10:29] Hello [10:31] 'apper' survived my update to 11.10, and now I can't update anymore because I have to software managers running at the same time, does anybody know how to solve this? [10:42] !aptfix [10:42] If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a » === moka is now known as Guest87958 [11:47] hi, I have a cd contaning oneiric. can I use it to upgrade my natty instead of downloading the whole thing thru update-manager? I don't have a fast connection and I'd be glad to save some hours of downloading [11:49] I think you need the alternate cd to upgrade [11:49] MarcoPau: If its an alternate disk yes [11:49] !upgrade [11:49] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [11:50] !alternate [11:50] The Alternate CD is a classical text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. Look for the alternate checkbox on the Kubuntu download page - See also !minimal [11:50] !well_laid_lawn [11:51] I don't think the bot knows me ;) === djallu is now known as D_74_LU [12:11] I like to know some details about the project neon [12:13] !neon | phoenix_firebrd [12:13] phoenix_firebrd: Project Neon provides set of daily builds of KDE and releated modules | See https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/ProjectNeon | More support in #project-neon [12:14] yofel: if i add the neon ppa to my souces and install an app will it affect the normal verison previously installed? [12:15] nope, the neon packages are installed in /opt, see the techbase page on how to use them [12:16] Hey all [12:17] yofel: i had tried it before, i just want to confirm it, thank you. Is dragon player 3 available in neon [12:17] BluesKaj: hi [12:18] phoenix_firebrd: hm, don't think so, unless it's in the default kde setup - which I think still uses 2 [12:18] yep, neon has dragon 2.0 [12:18] yofel: who did see that [12:19] ? [12:19] yofel: sorry , got it [12:20] !timelord [12:20] (Had to try) [12:20] heh [12:20] Hi all, on a fresh install of 11.10 I get empty spaces on the taskbar, ghost spaces where there should be a minimmised window but there is none. This spaces push valid entries in the taskbar forward. Am I the only one, and is there a fix? [12:21] hi phoenix_firebrd, yofel [12:21] hey BluesKaj [12:22] lelamal: nope, you're not the only one, and the KDE folks are still working on fixing as far as I know [12:22] *fixing it [12:23] yofel: thank you, it's good to know! :)ù [12:23] I like Dragonplayer , but it doesn't pass digital 5.1audio just pcm [12:24] brb [12:24] lelamal, that' sbeen a problem for a while now, the ghost apps inm the taskbar [12:26] BluesKaj: thanks for letting me know, to know it's a known issue feels better than thinking my system was borked [12:27] I just did Natty->Oneiric and the nvidia driver is "active but not in use". lshw -C displays tells me "driver=nouveau". How do I re-enable the nvidia driver? [12:29] systemclient: # jockey-text -C [12:31] systemclient, choose the recommended driver and install that, probly nvidia-current' [12:31] BluesKaj: it was installed [12:32] alvin: still running … [12:33] systemclient: Did you restart X afterwards (or reboot)? [12:33] alvin: now it asks me reboot at "0.75" [12:33] dpkg -l | grep nvidia, systemclient [12:33] alvin: I rebooted after the upgrade [12:33] BluesKaj: I already used jockey to remove the driver, I'll try reinstalling it [12:35] BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/720631/ [12:35] systemclient, then best to drop to atty , install nvidia -current then do sudo nvidia-xconfig, then reboot [12:35] BluesKaj: that is strange [12:35] BluesKaj: I was going to restart and reinstall with jockey [12:36] I'll be back in a couple minutes [12:39] strange, I uninstalled the current one and now I got the 173 one [12:39] and 3D and compositing works [12:39] so I guess I will not tinker with it [12:45] systemclient, which graphics card ? [12:45] 9500 GT [12:45] BluesKaj: ^ [12:48] wow, and it uses the 173 driver, now that's strange ...it may be just coincidence about your desktop effects, the kernel module for the nvidia current is nvidia 11713772 40 in lsmod [12:51] systemclient, anyway , "if it ain't broke, don't fix it " [12:57] BluesKaj: I like the dragonplayer's new qml interface and the recent files preview [12:59] BluesKaj: did you say anything to me after I got disconnected? [13:00] yeah, phoenix_firebrd , I use dragon player a lot for video without 5.1 audio [13:00] systemclient, yeah I did , anyway , "if it ain't broke, don't fix it " [13:00] :) [13:01] BluesKaj: its a simple player [13:01] works well , phoenix_firebrd [13:01] BluesKaj: ya [13:02] BluesKaj: yep, that is my motivation on this as well :-) [13:02] I use VLC for DD and DTS audio in movies, mostly they're mkv [13:03] BluesKaj: vlc for all === djallu is now known as D_74_LU [13:04] well phoenix_firebrd in some cases the DD especially suffers from audio dropouts which can be annoying , so I switch to dragon p[layer rather than change my audio settings in VLC to play pcm 2 channel [13:07] my audio receiver reconstructs the 2ch audio to play as surround in DPL2..works quite well [13:08] BluesKaj: external decoder ? [13:09] yeah , phoenix_firebrd , DAC in my audio receiver , they're very common now [13:09] BluesKaj: i use a philips surround decoder [13:11] most soundcards , even onboards have digital outputs , either toslink or coaxial. Do you fed an audio amplifier from the decoder? [13:11] yofel_: i added the neon- project ppa to the sources list and i have installed project-neon-kdebaseapps package, i cant find the neon-project session entry in kdm, do i have to install any other package ? [13:11] err feed [13:12] BluesKaj: ya, i have install the decoder circuit inside my amplifier [13:12] phoenix_firebrd, ok [13:13] cool :) [13:14] BluesKaj: my sound card supports digital output, but all of my devices outputs are analog [13:15] yofel_: got it [13:16] neon isn't that the amarok daily-build packages? [13:18] BluesKaj: it also contains other packages [13:19] BluesKaj: https://launchpad.net/~neon/+archive/ppa [13:25] phoenix_firebrd, don't see dragonplayer there [13:25] BluesKaj: its under kdemultimedia [13:26] BluesKaj: i mean kdemultimedia contains dragonplayer [13:27] BluesKaj: yofel_ said project-neon contains only version 2 of dragonplayer [13:27] * BluesKaj looks at appachelogger's git version [13:28] BluesKaj: i tried compiling it,not successful [13:28] BluesKaj: the depencency package qt desktop 0.1 is not dected when compiling dragon player in git [13:29] BluesKaj: also i am just a beginner in compiling from sources [13:30] BluesKaj: going to compile it? === Tyl3r_DuRd3n is now known as Guest99411 [13:32] BluesKaj: becarefull when using the phonon from git [13:32] going to test neon [13:33] * BluesKaj looks futher [13:34] GirlyGirl: I have a live cd. I assume I can't get any package from there then, right? [13:34] MarcoPau: No [13:35] GirlyGirl: sucks. thanks tho! .-) [13:35] :) === vivp is now known as pvivek === pvivek is now known as pvivek_ === pvivek_ is now known as vivp === vivp is now known as pvivek === djallu is now known as D_74_LU === cnx is now known as al13n1x === neo is now known as Guest99264 === al13n1x is now known as cnx === cnx is now known as al13n1x === cnx is now known as al13n1x [14:43] hi! i got a problem by removing a module, i get the error Device or resource busy if do rmmod -f :( How can i find out which resource uses this modul? === cnx is now known as al13n1x === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:02] BluesKaj: The new dolphin 2.0 is good [15:06] phoenix_firebrd: -> #kubuntu-offtopic ;) [15:09] phoenix_firebrd, there's no configure file in the dragonplayer 3 git version so i din't bother trying ...there isn't even a readme , that tells me it's definitely too "raw" for me [15:10] BluesKaj: why do you need a configure file? [15:12] in order to setup make and make install === root is now known as Guest98725 [15:13] ye [15:13] yes [15:31] hi all, I used to use an application to convert music files (like flac) into mp3, but I can't remember its name to install it now. I think it was something along the lines of konverter (which isn't in muon, so it's wrong). [15:34] nevermind, I've just found it, it's called soundkonverter :) [16:07] k [16:07] y [16:07] hello guys [16:08] hi sandox [16:09] i have kubuntu 11.10 and kde 4.6.5 runing on asus laptop model x52jk [16:09] theres a prolem using my web cam [16:09] it flips my image [16:10] i fixed it on skype [16:11] but how do i fix it when other apps open my cam? [16:11] anyone knows? [16:12] and where do i find information on my installed drivers? [16:16] sandox: I don't use a webcam myself but bet there are people in here who do, hold on and someone will probably be able to answer your question. [16:16] хопе со рорк [16:17] hope so rork [16:18] rork, do u know where i can find info for my drivers...i mean i dont see any information about drivers...even in system settings [16:21] sandox: unfortunately I have no idea [16:22] its ok dude,tnx anyway [16:22] sandox: what wrong [16:22] i cant find any information about my drivers [16:23] and have a web cam problem flippin my images [16:23] im runing kubuntu 11.10 and kde 4.6.5. [16:24] sandox: the webcam image is upside down? [16:24] yeah,i fixed it in skype [16:25] but problem still remain when turning my cam in a web site [16:25] sandox: that probably happens when you use a wrong video type [16:26] that happens everytime i turn my cam on [16:26] sandox: can you see any video settings when trying to use in web [16:26] no [16:26] i dont [16:27] sandox: what is your camera model [16:27] how do i check? [16:28] lsusb [16:28] right [16:28] Hi [16:28] i was forgot that [16:28] kamilnadeem: hi [16:29] Hi [16:29] Bus 002 Device 003: ID 0458:003a KYE Systems Corp. (Mouse Systems) NetScroll+ Mini Traveler [16:29] Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub [16:29] Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub [16:29] Bus 001 Device 003: ID 13d3:5130 IMC Networks [16:29] Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:0020 Intel Corp. Integrated Rate Matching Hub [16:29] sandox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:29] Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub [16:29] sandox: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:29] sandox: no [16:29] sandox: use paste.kde.org [16:30] phoenix_firebrd need little help [16:30] sandox: or psate.ubuntu.com [16:30] sandox: or paste.ubuntu.com [16:30] kamilnadeem: yes what is it [16:30] My system startup time got really slow after installing Ubuntu one on Kubuntu 11.10 si I was Unistalled it but no improvement in the startup time? [16:31] A cog jumps on the screen for sometime after which the startup sound plays [16:31] kamilnadeem: check the log and see what are all starting when you boot [16:31] ok doing [16:33] only normal stuf in the autostart [16:33] command runner, plasma-desktop and gtk2 [16:33] kamilnadeem: not that one [16:34] service manager? [16:34] kamilnadeem: no the system log in /var/log [16:34] ok checking [16:36] ok , so what anoamly have I to check for>? [16:37] kamilnadeem: wait [16:38] Ok [16:38] kamilnadeem: can you see boot.log in /var/log/ folder ? [16:38] yes [16:38] I am actually in it [16:38] kamilnadeem: paste iy [16:38] kamilnadeem: paste it [16:38] ok imgur? [16:39] ok pastebin [16:39] kamilnadeem: pastebin [16:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/720855/ [16:39] here [16:41] kamilnadeem: nothing found there [16:41] kamilnadeem: are you using kde pim? [16:41] kde pim? [16:41] please explain ? [16:41] kamilnadeem: kontact, kmail, ..? [16:42] no [16:42] it has just begun [16:42] after installing the Ubunt one [16:42] kamilnadeem: if thats the case then akonadi may delay the startup [16:43] Well how could it be all of a sudden [16:44] On a previous kubuntu 11.10 install samething happend when I installed Yuake [16:44] kamilnadeem: you use a program that uses akonadi, it will start akonadi everytime it needs it [16:45] But I used Kontact for a while , then removed my account from it and Installed thunderbird and all this is some time back [16:45] It was all working well , just now [16:46] what will the sudo purge for Ubuntu one [16:46] kamilnadeem: no idea why it happens now, but you can try stop using akonadi and see if it helps [16:47] kamilnadeem: it will remove ubuntuone and its settings [16:47] ok so I stop it from startup , restart and report back [16:47] uhm, from what I know ubuntuone and akonadi have nothing to do with each other [16:47] OK [16:48] yofel: no i didnt mean that [16:48] o.O yofel then whats this recent delay all about [16:48] kamilnadeem: nvm, I misunderstood what he said [16:48] yofel: but akonadi does cause startup delay as stated by a devolper in planetkde blog [16:49] ok I got something here [16:49] kamil@kamil-MG-63MI-7109:~$ sudo apt-get purge ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk aptdaemon.gtkwidgets gnome-keyring [16:50] it shows a host of things to be removed [16:50] wait doing pastebin [16:50] yofel: the time and date widgets, loads akonadi to show the events list at startup [16:50] true [16:50] yofel: can you help kamilnadeem, i am going for my dinner [16:51] ok , go ahead :) [16:51] bbl [16:51] yofel here http://paste.ubuntu.com/720863/ [16:52] yeah, that's ubuntuone and dependencies [16:53] so I am going ahead and removing them [16:54] kamilnadeem: the slowdown is after the login screen? [16:55] I do auto login , so the kde startup comes slow then a cog jumps on the screen and then the startup sound plays [16:56] well here is whats happened [16:56] http://paste.ubuntu.com/720868/ [16:57] yofel:so I do yes to this ? [16:57] that looks fine from a KDE point of view [16:57] ok [16:58] ok while its removing stuff, yofel do you use Kontact ? [16:58] nope, thunderbird [17:00] same here. [17:02] ok, going to restart [17:05] hmmm. nothing chnaged yofel [17:08] still the splash screen loads slowly and then cog near the mouse and after than the startup sound? === Guest3547 is now known as AD [17:12] yofel you there? [17:13] I need some help with changing place of GRUB [17:14] kamilnadeem: not sure what's the problem then. You could look for something enlightning in ~/.xsession-errors which is the sessions error log, but other than that... [17:15] Can someone help me? [17:15] kamil: what place? [17:16] yofel now I am looking at what you said but I don't know how to interpret it? 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