[00:03] Hello, what is the name of lubuntu new pdf cbz files reader? === Ximo is now known as Guest4448 [02:04] yes, but I don't know how I us this [02:06] No too much. How to configure wifi connection with a SMC (SMCWBR14-N2)? [02:08] In 11.10 it's possible us the WPS sistem? [02:11] Where I can find the place to enter the pin of WPS sistem? [02:14] But I have to much dificould config the windows of NMF [02:17] What's up? I'm alone [02:19] Sorry, I'm a absolute begginer. [02:23] thank's for your help, See you. [02:37] hello any one on ? [02:58] need some help [03:03] iamfennec: go ahead and ask [03:10] ok i'm useing lubuntu 10.04, i installed the unbuntu package managers ect because thats what i know. my update manager says i'm out of space and to use sudo apt-get clean [03:12] ok.. [03:12] that doesn't really clean much, other than the cache. [03:13] if you're really out of space, you really need to fix your partition set up tto be truthful. [03:13] apt-get clean isn't gonna do "that much" on most PC's [03:13] well i i thought that lubuntu manages all that [03:13] all versions of ubuntu keep a cache. [03:13] you clean it w/ apt-get clean [03:14] i see but i have 30gigs set aside for lubuntu [03:14] and i've not filled it up as far as i know [03:14] so i'm kinda at a loss [03:15] ok then either 1. you did somethign wrong, or 2. you've got a ton of music/movies/etc on your partition [03:15] hold on a ec [03:15] now the update manager seems to be stuck all greyed out and doing nothing [03:15] ok [03:17] i have nothing like that at all, is the any way i can see how full the partition is like in windows ? [03:19] um [03:19] easiest way, is probably gparted [03:19] sudo apt-get install gparted [03:20] ok [03:22] i really don't know the ubuntu workflow for that stuff. [03:22] yah [03:22] or lubuntu either [03:22] once that installs, open it up by going to menu/system tools/gparted [03:22] is there a tutor somewhere i can learn this stuff [03:22] ? [03:22] k [03:23] You might actually want to find out it isn't correct [03:24] http://ubuntupocketguide.com/index_main.html [03:24] ok one sec i need to restart i think [03:24] df -h and sudo fdisk -l (and pastebinit :P) [03:24] iamfennec: that's one thing that is helpful [03:24] i'll come right back [03:24] i can never figure fdisk out, it never prints out my disk right, dunno why [03:25] Pastebinit [03:25] :P [03:27] ok i'm back [03:29] ok [03:30] so gparted shows that i have my 2 partitons one for windows and the other lubuntu 24.97gb [03:30] and it does look full [03:43] * iamfennec looks [03:43] km0201 you there ? [03:43] yeah [03:44] so lubuntu is 24.97gigs, and its full [03:45] yes [03:46] i'm nt sure how to see what folders are taking up the most space [03:46] when i started into linux i was useing ubuntu 10.04 then a friend told me about lubuntu so i switched because i was on an older laptop [03:47] yeah, something isn't right. [03:47] not sure what, but.. something [03:47] i stayed with 10.04 thinking it was going to be the same as ubuntu but it looked and acted diferent [03:48] Type df -h into the terminal to see how much your /home is taking [03:49] Unit193: for me, that doesn't show anything for just "/home" [03:49] it just shows /dev/sda3 [03:49] so i figured out how to install the ubuntu software center and with it also gave me the update manager and snaptic package manager [03:49] du -h, wrong one :P [03:49] wow, yeah, thas right. [03:49] lol [03:49] !purelxde | iamfennec [03:49] iamfennec: If you want to remove all !KDE, !GNOME and !XFCE packages and have a default !Lubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelxde » [03:50] ok before i do anything can you exsplain what it is i've done? [03:51] i really don't understand what gnome or kde and all that even is [03:52] so did i screw everything up by installing what i knew to use ? [03:52] Blast, that's only for Oneiric, Natty, and Maverick [03:52] iamfennec: Lxde is the desktop interface that Lubuntu uses (Gnome, is what Ubntu used to youse, KDE is what Kubuntu uses) [03:52] iamfennec: Did you install lubuntu-deskttop [03:53] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment [03:54] i just found about 1gig in my trash can.. but i doubt thats his proble [03:55] well let me look there [03:55] where do i find that ? [03:55] open up your home folder, there's a "trashcan" on the left [03:57] yeah thats empty [03:58] hi bioterror [04:01] yes i installed the desktop version but when i log off the user i can put to into the laptop version [04:05] no, lubuntu-desktop is a package [04:05] most of us have "lubuntu desktop" on our laptops [04:07] where do i check that ? [04:12] so i'm going to answer yes i installed the desktop package [04:12] iamfennec: i dunno, but i'm betting somewhere you've got a folder picking up lots of data, do you download a lot of torrents, or stuff like that/ [04:13] i think i've done 3 torents on this computer [04:15] should i try the pure ldxe website that was posted ? [04:16] crap [04:17] umm do i just need to reinstall everything ? [04:17] No, it's not for that version of (L)Ubuntu [04:17] ok [04:17] question [04:19] when i run the update manager and it installes a critical update say a system upgrade [04:20] then when i boot the computer and it asks if i want to run windows or ubuntu verson ___ there are multipal versions [04:21] Yep, those are different kernel versions in case the new update didn't work [04:21] so i learned how to clean that up by uninstalling the files with the old versions in the package manager [04:22] so if i keep up on those am i getting rid of everything that i need to of the old kernel packages? [04:24] Well, there are images and headers [04:24] yeah its the headers i've been dealing with [04:24] Have a read of this and see if you want to try it http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-unused-linux-kernel-headers.html [04:27] that looks promising [04:30] Run this in terminal, it will tell you the 20 largest dirs you have du -xk | sort -n | tail -20 [04:31] ok here is what that link resulted in [04:31] [sudo] password for fennec: [04:31] Reading package lists... Done [04:31] Building dependency tree [04:31] Reading state information... Done [04:31] The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: [04:31] libdmraid1.0.0.rc16 libdiscover2 python-pyicu discover cryptsetup [04:31] reiserfsprogs rdate localechooser-data libdebconfclient0 discover-data [04:31] dmraid [04:31] Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. [04:31] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 20 not upgraded. [04:31] so what does that tell us ? [04:32] You removed nothing, but it thinks you can remove those packages [04:33] didn't say how much space but it doesn't look like it will free up much [04:33] here is my top 20 [04:33] Pastebin!! [04:33] !pastebin [04:33] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [04:34] 8284 ./.config [04:34] 14388 ./.cache/chromium/Default/Cache [04:34] 14392 ./.cache/chromium/Default [04:34] 16336 ./.cache/chromium [04:34] 16428 ./.cache [04:34] 30284 ./.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/gecko/1.0.0/wine_gecko [04:34] 30288 ./.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/gecko/1.0.0 [04:34] 30292 ./.wine/drive_c/windows/system32/gecko [04:34] 36984 ./programs/Redegast 2.2 [04:34] 36988 ./programs [04:34] 40328 ./.wine/drive_c/windows/system32 [04:36] iamfennec: Can you pastebin that? [04:36] sure, i can try [04:36] what happened ? [04:36] Read what ubot5 said [04:38] so i go to the website is told me about ? [04:38] i'm sorry i feel really stupid with this stuff [04:39] there we go [04:39] http://paste.ubuntu.com/720360/ [04:39] That's fine, go to http://paste.ubuntu.com and put the into in there [04:39] (It's less spammy and makes it easier to look at) [04:40] looks like the kids are trying to get my little pony episodes seems to me [04:41] Yeah, that's rahter large! [04:41] Try taking that out... [04:41] so thats it right ? let me delete it and we'll see where we're at === Laibeus_Lord is now known as Laibcoms [04:44] yeah that was it [04:45] i'm down to 3 gigs used now [04:45] holy cow all that work for something so simple [04:45] All fixed [04:47] lets try that update [04:48] yeah thats working [04:49] Yep, might want to talk about that to "the kids" :P [04:49] hey unit193 do you know what the diference is between 10.04 and 10.10 [04:50] lol [04:51] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Announcement/MaverickMeerkat [04:51] i heard that 11.04 was no good, thats why i've not upgraded [04:51] iamfennec: 6 month [04:52] The current release is 11.10 :P (That's 10.04 > 10.10 > 11.04 > 11.10) [04:52] tho now there up too 11.10 right [04:52] whats 6 months ? [04:52] diference :) [04:53] oh no new interface or whatnot ? [04:53] johndoe what do you use ? [04:53] 10.04 [04:54] unit193 what do you use ? [04:54] 11.10, but the upgrade didn't go the best (that's on one computer) [04:58] and what do you think of the 11 series lubuntu ? [04:58] thanks for that link btw [05:00] I'm more using it via terminal/ssh, but it's fine. The upgrade from 11.04 just wasn't the best :/ [05:02] did you do a fresh install at that point ? [05:02] Nope, it's working [05:03] maybe i'm missing it but what i miss in a os is the help info thats built into it [05:03] i can't seem to find it anywhere [05:03] and searching for files is really difficult too [05:04] course i'm use to the windows interfacing not through a terminal [05:09] Whaqt are you looking to find info on? man cat will tell you info on the cat command [05:11] well nothing off the top of my head its just when i get lost or need to look for the lubuntu equilvent of some windows funtion thats where i get lost [05:11] like umm [05:11] syschk and defrag [05:12] i'm not sure lubuntu needs that kind of looking after but thats one thing that i've wondered if i need to be doing to keep the computer running good [05:14] There is the wiki pages and Lubuntu FAQ [05:23] hi [05:35] howdee folks [13:57] is there any way to list one's audio devices, inputs, mics with ls? [14:04] jgratero: not really. lspci lsusb and the /dev and /sys is of interest [14:06] Thanks! [14:06] jgratero: there are some system diagnostics/information applications out there that does it. not sure about command line things though [14:08] yeah, I was looking some command to print the inputs/outputs and sound devices as a list, thought the ls was the option to go [14:08] I'm having a problem with my mic, the headphones work [14:09] but the mic doesn't get any sound at all [14:09] I've tested the headset in a Xubuntu Machine at home, and at two Vistas I have at the office [14:09] it works [14:10] so the problem is the configuration of this machine... I'm tinkering with alsamixer, no success until now [14:12] I'm upgrading the distribution we use in our office, so, I'll wait until then to see if there is any change on the subject [14:42] hi guys! do you happen to know how to change the login screen avatar/pic on the latest lubuntu? [15:12] hello everyone [15:14] I am having trouble with the new lubuntu version, every time a restart my box my sound is gone and so is my vol icon from the panel, any why in how to fix it ? [15:53] mourning kids [16:59] Hello, I have an old system, AMD Duron 1300MHz, 380 odd megs of ram. What webserver can I set up for use here at home? Apache will not slow it down? Should I use another lighter weight webserver? [17:02] Ascavasaion: the two that come to mind are nginx and lighttpd [17:03] Thank you wxl [17:03] i personally haven't used them much but certainly not with lubuntu but they have a reputation for low resource usage [17:03] both are in the ubuntu repos [17:07] Ascavasaion: you my wee little 1.5ghz 1280mb ram powerbook seem like a supercomputer.. and i complain about youtube and such ;) [17:07] I have other computers, but I set this old one up to lave running for downloads etc. [17:08] lave=leave [17:10] * wxl still can't wait to build up a super mini-itx server/nas [17:11] Ascavasaion: thttpd is one other possibility but i've no experience with that at ALL [17:11] can't necessarily "recommend" it [17:13] Thank you. Think I will stick with Apache. I have about 5% experience with it hehe The others I have 0% :) [17:13] in terms of size alone lighttpd > nginx-full > nginx-light > thttpd [17:13] there's a lot of support for apache [17:14] however i'd say that's also true of nginx [17:14] * wxl is getting excited about thttpd [17:15] about equal in speed as other common webservers, faster under extreme load [17:15] ipv6 ready [17:15] security [17:16] wow max users 1000+ [17:16] (not like i neeed that) [17:18] http://acme.com/software/thttpd/benchmarks.html [17:26] If I want to access a webserver on a PC on a network that is behind a router... how do I force the router to route the info to the specific PC that has the webserver running on it. [17:26] Do I use that Port forwarding? [17:27] you need to tweak port forwarding on your router [17:27] Thank you, thought so :) [17:27] np [18:02] This port forwarding has me buggered hehehe [18:04] check out portforward.com if you haven't already [18:04] it makes it pretty plain and simple [18:14] I gopt it working. My settings were correct. I just had to access it from an external connection and not internally. I used my cellphone and it worked like a charm :) [18:15] sweet [18:15] yeah should have told you that [18:15] usually one figures it out on their own :D [18:15] my cellphone is my best friend when it comes to networking troubleshooting [18:15] especially considering i can use the shell [18:16] i can vnc, vpn, ssh, you name it [18:19] I have a Blackberry. any free app you can sugest for telnetting, SSHing into the PC remotely from the cell? [18:19] they're out there but i don't think they're free [18:19] i briefly had a blackberry [18:19] hated it [18:19] I hate it as well hehe [18:20] I miss my old Nokia E63. [18:20] heh [18:20] i have a palm pre [18:20] supposedly i can run i think debian lxde off of it [18:20] so i'm gonna do that once i get a new phone [18:20] i'm going andrioid [18:20] s/ri/r/ [18:20] Aaaah, nice. [18:22] unless my wife makes me get an iphone which i really don't want [18:22] it's just the same as i think an ipad is great for her, but i don't want one at all [18:33] My friend gave me a Chinese knock-off of an iPhone hehehe What a piece of junk. [18:33] hahahah [18:34] Looks nice, runs simple things nicely, but that is where it ends. [18:35] right and that's the joy of the imachine: does easy things well [18:35] which for like 90% of the general public is perfect [18:35] hehehe [18:35] these commercials where you speak into the phone are kind of stupid. "i'm locked out of my house, please help me." give me a break. look it up, dumb ass. ;) [18:36] Just being able to get onto IRC has been a saving grace for me at times when troubleshooting people's Internet troubles. === Evixion` is now known as Evixion [21:03] Upgraded to Lubuntu 11.10 from 11.04, now the chromium browser will freezes and uses all CPU. How can I fix? [21:09] Kutakizukari: you can report a bug tho and wait if any dev will fix it [21:11] xsaidx, Okay [21:11] ;] [21:11] explain how you upgraded too Kutakizukari [21:12] wxl, will do [21:12] how DID you upgrade? [21:13] from within 11.04 with update manager? [21:13] oh and make sure to include your version of chromium [21:15] update manager [21:15] running apport now [21:16] 14.0.835.202~r103287-0ubuntu1? [21:16] wxl, how do I tell which chromium version because I don't remember? [21:17] Kutakizukari: sudo apt-cache policy chromium-browser [21:17] better yet [21:17] Kutakizukari: sudo apt-cache policy chromium-browser | grep -i installed [21:18] 14.0.835.202~r103287-0ubuntu1 [21:18] so that's good [21:18] mine runs pretty peachy keen except when loading [21:19] admittedly i have my processor throttled (virtual machine) and i have very low memory [21:19] It freezes as soon as it starts and when I ctrl-alt-delete there are two processes of chromium browser [21:19] however i can leave it loading and it doesn't use cpu [21:20] s/loading/running [21:20] when I kill the one that using all the CPU it takes out both of them [21:21] every process, tab, plugin, etc. in chrome is a separate process [21:21] hah i have four instances right now [21:21] and i'm just on a blank new tab [21:22] Apport is saying http://pastebin.com/7iPysuUQ [21:22] I have quit a few plugins [21:23] quite you mean? [21:23] it seems screen capture is your problem [21:23] yes quite a few [21:23] delete it? [21:24] the screen_capture.so? [21:25] hold [21:25] $ chromium-browser --incognito [21:25] that should go into "safe mode" [21:26] from there you can disable screen capture [21:26] welcome to the wonderful world of plugins by the way [21:32] wxl, running chromium-browser --incognito freezes still and returns this http://pastebin.com/5467nuaL in the terminal. [21:32] though task manager shows chromium browser using 0% [21:34] that's weird about the permissions [21:34] if you running it as sudo does that help? [21:34] let me try [21:36] Chromium can not be run as root. [21:36] ok so that's out [21:41] Kutakizukari: sudo apt-cache policy libcanberra0 [21:43] ah, it's probably not that actually [21:43] sounds like there's a bug that's fixed in v15 chromium [21:43] if you add proposed to your repos you can get it [21:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/chromium-browser/+bug/881607 [21:43] Ubuntu bug 881607 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu Oneiric) "ERROR:nss_util.cc(397)] Error initializing NSS without a persistent database: libsoftokn3.so: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied" [Medium,In progress] [21:44] there's also a hack: [21:44] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=91962#c31 [21:51] actually i failed to do my daily check on what's new and lo and behold, there's v15 chromium [21:51] (out of proposed) [21:52] Kutakizukari: you can add proposed in software sources on the updates tab [21:59] check the pre-released or unsupported? [22:01] it's testing for -updates [22:01] oh wait you're asking me a practical not a philosophical question [22:02] pre-released is what you want [22:02] (see proposed in parentheses?) [22:09] when installing deb package cant get past admin rights password, as dont remember making one using lubuntu 11.04 could anyone help pls [22:09] it's you draioch [22:10] hi wxl [22:10] no i mean your user is the admin [22:10] yea i tried me username pass [22:11] screen just flashes thats it [22:11] do you have the same problem trying to load synaptic? [22:12] think i did yea that why not installed [22:13] gdebi would be doing the same thing synaptic does when asking for authentication [22:13] if you can load synaptic, then you should have no problem using the same credentials with gdebi [22:13] or any other thing that uses sudo or gksudo [22:14] unless something else is to blame [22:14] ok maybe i should just do a fresh install of latest lubuntu [22:15] took me a long time tho the last time done a minimal install as using old p4 pc [22:15] so yes or no: can you (right now) load synaptic? [22:15] wait sorry [22:16] installing now [22:17] installing? so you didn't have it? [22:17] how are you installing it, apt-get? [22:17] yea [22:17] its asking for admin pass [22:17] sudo apt-get, right? [22:17] yea [22:17] and did you succeed in giving sudo your password? [22:18] no cant get past it [22:18] it wont take any of the 2 usernames i would have used [22:18] sudo doesn't need a username [22:18] it's like this: [22:18] $ sudo command [22:18] password: [22:18] not: [22:18] $ sudo command [22:18] user: [22:18] password: [22:20] yea i got past sudo and "[sudo] password for rabc: " and everything was ok then the admin passoword thing comes up [22:23] that's bizarre [22:24] try doing sudo ls [22:24] you can do any command as sudo [22:24] if he's accidentally removed himself from sudo groups, he might need to boot recovery to fix this. [22:25] sudo ls works [22:26] maybe a reinstall would be easier was gonna do latest lubuntu minimal install anyways, any good links wiki on that [22:27] it took me a couple of days the last time, did it get any easier the minimal install since the last lubuntu 11.04 [22:30] try this one: [22:30] cat /etc/sudoers | grep ALL [22:31] aw hell nevermind [22:31] you have to be root :/ [22:32] i betcha that's it tho [22:33] no worries but i really appreciate u trying wxl think ill just reinstall sometime [22:36] KM0201's solution is a goood one draioch [22:36] and one you can probably do with your existing install [22:36] although i can symphathize with the ned to want to fix an install [22:37] yea ill look into that wxl and thx again [22:38] np [22:46] Hello. I have a question about getting JDK 7. I have found openjdk-7-jdk in the package manager but is it any diffrent from downloading the real jdk 7 from oracle.com? [22:49] goliat: yes. [22:50] hahahahah [22:50] somehow i suspect that's not the whole question [22:51] wxl: Well a followup would be what would be the best to get. openjkd7 or jdk7? [22:52] what are you using it for goliat ? [22:52] (don't say java) [22:52] i would use it for programming, with eclipse probably [22:52] ahhh [22:53] from what i understand you need to go through some machinations to get eclipse to work with openjdk [22:53] that may be outdated information [22:54] if it were me (i prefer open/free) i'd go for openjdk and if it doesn't work, use the real one [22:54] in fact you can install both even and use the java command to change versions [22:55] so conceptually you could have openjdk be the default and have a script for eclipse that changes version, loads eclipse, and changes version back upon exit [22:55] but that may be more b.s. than you want to do ;) [22:56] actually i think that i can install jdk7 and select it in eclipse. I wouldn't need to bother changing either. [22:56] aw there you go didn't know that was an option [22:56] with that in mind, i would definitely install both [22:56] Yeah :) [22:57] Can always uninstall them :P [22:57] make jk7 your default, but when you're programming ensure compatibility with openjdk7 [22:57] yeps [22:57] (your users will thank you) [22:58] thanks for the help wxl :) [22:58] no prob man