grendal-prime | hello | 09:32 |
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Myrtti | hi | 09:33 |
grendal-prime | anybody home? | 09:33 |
grendal-prime | hi | 09:33 |
grendal-prime | so...so far tonight..it has not been fun | 09:34 |
grendal-prime | Myrtti, you know why im here | 09:34 |
grendal-prime | the earthquake thing? | 09:34 |
Myrtti | brb | 09:36 |
grendal-prime | k | 09:36 |
grendal-prime | take your time | 09:36 |
Myrtti | right | 09:36 |
grendal-prime | sooo have i already talked to you tonight under some other nic..or...are you really not knowing why im here? | 09:37 |
Myrtti | no, actually I don't know why you are here, unless you're after a Ubuntu member cloak, or you've got some issues you'd like to be catalyzed with the Local Community IRC channel ops. Since your issue seems to be about #ubuntu guidelines, then it's not an issue of this channel, rather of #ubuntu-ops | 09:37 |
grendal-prime | now ...just curiouse..how did you know that? | 09:38 |
grendal-prime | because it would save time if you where someone i was talking to earlyer | 09:39 |
Myrtti | no, I'm not someone you talked with earlier, because I just woke up. | 09:39 |
grendal-prime | because im really not wanting to be a pain but | 09:39 |
grendal-prime | ok | 09:39 |
Myrtti | if you want to discuss the #ubuntu earthquake issue further, please take it to #ubuntu-ops - this is not the channel for it | 09:39 |
grendal-prime | and...ok..ill just believe that..even though everything i have had happen tonight is really bizaar | 09:39 |
grendal-prime | again..i just ...they really dont want to talk to me anymore | 09:40 |
grendal-prime | nor can i even try and help anyone there. | 09:40 |
grendal-prime | it just is..well bad | 09:40 |
grendal-prime | but | 09:40 |
grendal-prime | here is the thing... | 09:40 |
grendal-prime | seriuosly...i asked one thing...if anyone in california had experienced a earthquake | 09:41 |
grendal-prime | i gottold to take it somewhere else | 09:41 |
Myrtti | ok, this is me being really polite | 09:41 |
grendal-prime | ok | 09:42 |
Myrtti | could you please take it to #ubuntu-ops, because here you are only venting and your issue isn't going to be solved | 09:42 |
grendal-prime | they wont talk to me..i am seriosly going to talk to the fcc and they said it was your issue then | 09:42 |
grendal-prime | sucis | 09:43 |
grendal-prime | sucks | 09:43 |
grendal-prime | anyway..you need to know a few things.. | 09:43 |
Myrtti | how do you know they won't talk to you? | 09:43 |
bkerensa | grendal-prime: #Ubuntu-Ops would be the appropriate channel and they could discuss this with you | 09:43 |
grendal-prime | i tried that | 09:43 |
grendal-prime | hold on let me get logs | 09:43 |
Myrtti | don't bother | 09:44 |
bkerensa | Hmm? I'm in #Ubuntu-Ops and have not seen you join | 09:44 |
Myrtti | I've got them | 09:44 |
grendal-prime | ok well basically i was told to come here | 09:45 |
Myrtti | er, that's not what my logs say | 09:45 |
grendal-prime | look im really sorry..hu? | 09:45 |
grendal-prime | hold on | 09:45 |
Myrtti | I can see you being told to go to #freenode | 09:46 |
Myrtti | which you did | 09:46 |
grendal-prime | <bkerensa> If you would like to debate this I'm not the one however you can address your concern in #Ubuntu-IRC or #Ubuntu-Ops and additionally can raise this with #Freenode which runs the network | 09:46 |
grendal-prime | ive been everywere | 09:46 |
bkerensa | Myrtti: Actually I did accidentally say -IRC (Its nearly 3am so I'm tired) | 09:46 |
bkerensa | my error | 09:47 |
grendal-prime | sorry | 09:47 |
grendal-prime | didnt mean to keep you up | 09:47 |
grendal-prime | honesty dude | 09:47 |
bkerensa | grendal-prime: #Ubuntu-Ops has the ircops team and they are better equipped to discuss IRC Policies and such matters | 09:47 |
Myrtti | er, no. | 09:47 |
bkerensa | grendal-prime: I'm up by my own choice no need to apologize | 09:47 |
grendal-prime | ok | 09:48 |
grendal-prime | me 2 | 09:48 |
grendal-prime | well on call | 09:48 |
grendal-prime | but i digress | 09:48 |
Myrtti | #ubuntu-ops is the channel for the issues in core channels, such as #ubuntu, to be solved | 09:48 |
grendal-prime | hey guys | 09:48 |
grendal-prime | i can nip this in the bud | 09:48 |
Myrtti | and while it has it's share of IRCops, the people who run freenode, in it, it's not their channel | 09:48 |
grendal-prime | i dont want to be a pain in the ass. | 09:49 |
grendal-prime | seriously.. | 09:49 |
grendal-prime | can we just deal with this here.... | 09:49 |
Myrtti | the other ops of #ubuntu are watching mainly #ubuntu-ops | 09:49 |
Myrtti | if you want the issue to be properly dealt with, then join there | 09:50 |
grendal-prime | they dont aparently like me' | 09:50 |
grendal-prime | i have a solution | 09:50 |
Myrtti | AND even if the issue would be dealt here, it would be dealt with by the SAME PEOPLE | 09:50 |
Myrtti | but as of now you've been dealing with only one person | 09:51 |
Myrtti | so again, I ask you kindly, please join #ubuntu-ops to discuss it. | 09:51 |
grendal-prime | i had a feeling that was the case..buuut...sometimes just being in the right place...does the trick? | 09:51 |
Myrtti | no. | 09:51 |
elky | Myrtti, he's already been there, by the way, after being muted in #ubuntu | 09:51 |
Myrtti | elky: yes, I know. | 09:52 |
grendal-prime | who are you? | 09:52 |
grendal-prime | i mean aka wise? | 09:52 |
Myrtti | grendal-prime: who are you asking | 09:53 |
elky | Earthquakes are not really the topic to deal with, and if they were, we'd probably care about the ones that actually killed people, such as the one in turkey | 09:53 |
grendal-prime | elky | 09:53 |
grendal-prime | i asked | 09:53 |
grendal-prime | that was it | 09:53 |
elky | Why does it matter? | 09:53 |
grendal-prime | ive been in situations where it mattered | 09:54 |
grendal-prime | live or death | 09:54 |
grendal-prime | look | 09:54 |
elky | If you were, you'd not be on IRC. | 09:54 |
grendal-prime | i was | 09:54 |
popey | This is a pointless waste of everyones time. | 09:54 |
popey | In my humble opinion. | 09:54 |
grendal-prime | no its not | 09:54 |
grendal-prime | thats right | 09:54 |
grendal-prime | for you | 09:54 |
grendal-prime | simple solution | 09:55 |
popey | There is no problem to solve. | 09:55 |
grendal-prime | registerd channel...disaster | 09:55 |
elky | A 5.2 quake is extremely rarely a life of death situation. | 09:55 |
grendal-prime | all ops informed.. if it comes up...#disaster | 09:55 |
elky | or whatever the californian one was. | 09:55 |
bkerensa | =o | 09:55 |
elky | ok we'll keep that in mind. Can we return to the regularly scheduled programming for *our* channels now? | 09:56 |
grendal-prime | you guys..you are thinking backawards on this | 09:56 |
elky | No. I live in an earthquake area. You're being silly. | 09:56 |
grendal-prime | no i am not | 09:56 |
Myrtti | if IRC had any FCC mandated job to inform IRC users about disasters around the world, it would probably be done as wallops messages in distinct servers | 09:56 |
grendal-prime | its not a mandadte..dude...its a simple channel | 09:57 |
grendal-prime | and some basic training | 09:57 |
Myrtti | btw, there is a governmental body in Finland that requires emergency messages that involve Finns to be broadcast in Finnish radio and tv | 09:57 |
grendal-prime | what is the problem with this | 09:58 |
k1l | sry but i dont see a single point to ubuntu in this earthquake story | 09:58 |
Myrtti | would you like your emergency channel to have emergency information that there is a bear roaming in Tampere and the people are adviced to stay indoors? | 09:58 |
jpds | Dude, what does Ubuntu have to do about this? | 09:58 |
grendal-prime | just a general place to share info that is focused on disaster | 09:58 |
popey | We're out of coffee! Quick! Join #disaster! | 09:58 |
grendal-prime | thing about what i costs and what it could do. | 09:58 |
Myrtti | grendal-prime: great, start that channel. | 09:58 |
grendal-prime | you want ME to bot it? | 09:59 |
jpds | grendal-prime: You're the one suggesting it. | 09:59 |
Myrtti | please don't advertise it in our channels though, Ubuntu channels shrug on advertising | 09:59 |
k1l | there are thousands of channel in this irc network and you choose a supportchannel to talk about a earthquake. when you were pointed to a more related offtopic channel you get rude. sry but the mistake is not on the others | 09:59 |
grendal-prime | dude | 09:59 |
grendal-prime | i was in the cahnnel just joined.. | 10:00 |
elky | grendal-prime, if you really want to deal with disaster stuff, google for ushahidi | 10:00 |
grendal-prime | and wham thought i was in an earthquake | 10:00 |
bkerensa | =o | 10:00 |
grendal-prime | i asked if anyone else flet it. and got told to take it else where | 10:00 |
elky | it's an open source crowdsourcing coordination system. it's a *far* more appropriate place for you to panic in | 10:00 |
grendal-prime | not...#earthquake | 10:00 |
k1l | grendal-prime: did you get banned or muted or whatever for the one line about the earthquake? | 10:01 |
grendal-prime | it escalted | 10:01 |
k1l | or about the rudeness and the story after the line | 10:01 |
grendal-prime | im sure its all logged | 10:01 |
elky | grendal-prime, I'm trying to help you here. There's 500 dead turks and I don't see their compatriots here demanding attention from us. Go look up ushahidi | 10:01 |
k1l | grendal-prime: so stop talking about earthquake and start thinking on your behaviour. | 10:01 |
bkerensa | grendal-prime: You can always develop a crowdsource app of your own and make a PPA... Make a indicator even that people can install and it will blink when a earthquake occurs | 10:02 |
grendal-prime | i was trying to get info..the person that told me to leave i had no idea who they were others where talking to me i told them to shut up | 10:02 |
grendal-prime | grrr | 10:02 |
elky | I'm telling you to stop now. I've given you alternatives. I've categorically expressed that you are in the wrong place to be talking about this. | 10:03 |
grendal-prime | you guys are really not interested in any way of supprting an emergency broadcast channel? | 10:03 |
grendal-prime | because here is what im thinking | 10:03 |
Myrtti | I live in Finland | 10:03 |
grendal-prime | ok | 10:03 |
Myrtti | our earthquakes are on the magnitude of 2.0 Richter | 10:03 |
grendal-prime | does that matter in some what | 10:03 |
Myrtti | if even that | 10:03 |
elky | grendal-prime, you're not even interested in listening to our advice. THERE IS SUCH A THING ALREADY | 10:03 |
grendal-prime | way? | 10:03 |
Myrtti | I'm not interested in earthquakes, they do not happen. | 10:03 |
grendal-prime | one happendd in turky | 10:04 |
Myrtti | grendal-prime: it doesn't threaten my life | 10:04 |
elky | Yes. And I'm sure the ushahidi people are working on it | 10:04 |
grendal-prime | and so...everthing that happens here is ...you? | 10:04 |
Myrtti | grendal-prime: I'm trying to explain to you that I have no interest in the earthquake in Turkey or Sacramento enough to warrant inventing a new wheel you are suggesting | 10:06 |
Myrtti | grendal-prime: ushahidi is enough if I ever encounter a disaster bad enough | 10:06 |
Myrtti | grendal-prime: however, no matter what natural disaster I end up in, it has nothing to do with Ubuntu | 10:07 |
topyli | i wouldn't be so sure! :) | 10:07 |
elky | grendal-prime, listen closely. The ubuntu channels are the wrong place to discuss this. There is already a big international community that makes ushahidi. It's worked for haiti, christchurch, japan and others. Please, go help them. | 10:08 |
elky | I'm going to count to 10 and I'm going to unmute you. You're not going to continue at all, and rather you're going to leave politely and go seek out ushahidi. | 10:08 |
grendal-prime | hellow? | 10:11 |
jpds | 25 | 10:15 |
grendal-prime | sorry went to sleep | 10:39 |
grendal-prime | is freenode in the us? | 10:39 |
ikonia | ask in #freenode | 10:39 |
Mkaysi | 14 servers in Europe, 9 in the US according to http://freenode.net/irc_servers.shtml | 11:37 |
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