[15:07] <Sarvatt> ricotz: sorry about that, missed your libjpeg-dev build-dep commit
[15:25] <ricotz> Sarvatt, dont worry
[15:35] <ricotz> Sarvatt, jfyi, the jpeg patch wont work :\
[15:44] <Sarvatt> ricotz: so has wayland from edgers ever worked for you?
[15:45] <Sarvatt> ricotz: http://sarvatt.com/downloads/wayland.png that was the first one I uploaded, still the same today
[15:47] <Sarvatt> oh its using egl_gallium.so, no wonder
[15:48] <LLStarks> morning sarvatt
[15:50] <Sarvatt> EGL_DRIVER=egl_dri2 wstart is a *little* better, background is still screwed up the same way but the terminal comes up
[15:50] <Sarvatt> hiya
[15:51] <LLStarks> wayland?
[15:52] <LLStarks> wish there was an easier way to use it aside from the demos
[15:57] <Sarvatt> http://sarvatt.com/downloads/wayland2.png looks lovely :)
[15:59] <LLStarks> yeah, getting that with edgers
[15:59] <LLStarks> precise is fine
[16:01] <Sarvatt> LLStarks: so what kind of touchpad do you have that is screwed up in edgers?
[16:02] <LLStarks> synaptics
[16:02] <LLStarks> edgers oneiric driver has hypersensitive defaults
[16:03] <LLStarks> regular natty/oneiric/precise picks up my finger hovering over the touchpad
[16:07] <Sarvatt> hmm
[16:08] <Sarvatt> does synclient ResolutionDetect=0 change it any?
[16:08] <Sarvatt> distro specific patch that might interfere with upstream changes
[16:10] <Sarvatt> its crazy i dont have any machines with synaptics touchpads anymore
[16:10] <Sarvatt> everything is alps now
[16:11] <Sarvatt> guess i could try synaptics on a mac's bcm5974
[16:21] <LLStarks> that synclient command doesn't help. i can mess around with gpointing settings, but i have no idea what the options do
[16:21] <LLStarks> and they sometimes help, but not enough to make usable
[16:58] <ricotz> Sarvatt, i dont have it running well here neither
[17:05] <bjsnider> ricotz, re: the gold linker, i talked to the developer and he says there was a patch in july that fixed the kernel issue, which is why your precise build worked. that patch would also be in oneiric's binutils-gold, so there are no worries int he present or future
[17:16] <ricotz> bjsnider, alright, maybe this fix is worth backporting to lucid then
[17:19] <bjsnider> it is
[17:27] <bjsnider> but, backport the patch to binutils-gold or backport an update to everything that uses dkms to force the normal linker?
[17:41] <ricotz> bjsnider, backporting the binutils fix
[17:43] <bjsnider> i'll check to see if it builds
[17:45] <ricotz> bjsnider, to be clear i meant like backporting this specific fix to 2.20.1
[17:52] <bjsnider> yep, i understood
[17:53] <bjsnider> the questionis whether it will build against a 2 year old version, but i will check it out
[18:28] <bjsnider> ricotz, found the patch, tested it against the binutils package in lucid, and it works. it is a relatively small change. so what is the next step?
[18:44] <ricotz> bjsnider, i think link the bug against binutils attach a debdiff and ping doko to explain it
[18:45] <ricotz> bjsnider, #ubuntu-devel
[18:45] <bjsnider> cool
[18:47] <ricotz> bjsnider, you have checked the dmks build to confirm it works?
[18:47] <ricotz> *dkms
[18:48] <bjsnider> no
[19:01] <bjsnider> i'd need a guinea pig using lucid for that
[19:13] <ricotz> bjsnider, i guess if you get it into lucid-proposed you will find one
[22:41] <Sarvatt> zomg, is that what I think it is? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/revision/1728#plugins/unityshell/src/GeisAdapter.cpp
[22:41] <Sarvatt> unity working with edgers? say it isn't so!
[22:42]  * Sarvatt prods the macbook air to build faster
[22:43] <Sarvatt> sure as heck looks like it'd fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/860707
[22:43] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 860707 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Unity crashes when started in an environment without utouch support (affects: 41) (dups: 2) (heat: 194)" [High,Confirmed]
[22:47] <Sarvatt> awesome, it does - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/850623
[22:47] <ubot4> Sarvatt: Error: Bug #850623 not found.
[22:47] <bryceh> nice
[22:47] <Sarvatt> been a real PITA not being able to use edgers directly for the past month and a half :)
[22:54] <RAOF> I have the multitouch server patches half-updated here.  Now that it seems like there's a workaround for the fn-f7 thingy I might finish that before kernel diving.
[22:55] <Sarvatt> guess i should package up xf86-input-mtrack properly since its pretty much required on this MBA
[22:56] <Sarvatt> RAOF: -background none from lightdm is just racy, i get it maybe 2/10 boots on this machine
[22:56]  * Sarvatt isn't surprised
[22:57] <RAOF> This is a fast sandybridge?  What happens on the failed boots?
[22:57] <Sarvatt> just no -background none, I dont even see the splash because it boots so fast
[22:57] <Sarvatt> if X is started in <8 seconds or so I dont get it
[22:58] <Sarvatt> unity doesn't build in parallel? ugh!
[23:00] <RAOF> Does here?
[23:01] <RAOF> Although cmake *does* manage the difficult feat of being a more annoying build system than autotools.
[23:03] <Sarvatt> does it?
[23:04] <Sarvatt> DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=4" debuild -uc -us -b sure as heck doesn't
[23:04] <Sarvatt> watching it bounce around 100% cpu usage between the cores
[23:12] <Sarvatt> oh wow, xf86-input-mtrack is in debian now
[23:18] <RAOF> Why do we have another non-evdev input DDX, and why do Airs need it?
[23:23] <bryceh> would be sad if it's perceived as easier to create a whole driver from scratch than it is to update the existing driver
[23:29] <Sarvatt> i spent a few hours trying to make synaptics sane and gave up when this worked perfectly out of the box :)
[23:29] <RAOF> To some extent it will be; the kernel has a crazy lead-time for driver improvements.
[23:30] <Sarvatt> no luck with the unity change, avoids GeisAdapter, still crashes in libutouch-geis
[23:30] <Sarvatt> unity-2d it is
[23:40] <Sarvatt> time to rebuild unity with debug symbols
[23:48] <RAOF> I suggest also DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="noopt nostrip"
[23:49] <RAOF> Orlando: 27C, Haze.
[23:49] <RAOF> Yeah, that sounds about right.
[23:51] <Sarvatt> Inside the conference rooms: 10C