=== kinoucho` is now known as kinouchou === yofel_ is now known as yofel [15:07] ricotz: sorry about that, missed your libjpeg-dev build-dep commit [15:25] Sarvatt, dont worry [15:35] Sarvatt, jfyi, the jpeg patch wont work :\ [15:44] ricotz: so has wayland from edgers ever worked for you? [15:45] ricotz: http://sarvatt.com/downloads/wayland.png that was the first one I uploaded, still the same today [15:47] oh its using egl_gallium.so, no wonder [15:48] morning sarvatt [15:50] EGL_DRIVER=egl_dri2 wstart is a *little* better, background is still screwed up the same way but the terminal comes up [15:50] hiya [15:51] wayland? [15:52] wish there was an easier way to use it aside from the demos [15:57] http://sarvatt.com/downloads/wayland2.png looks lovely :) [15:59] yeah, getting that with edgers [15:59] precise is fine [16:01] LLStarks: so what kind of touchpad do you have that is screwed up in edgers? [16:02] synaptics [16:02] edgers oneiric driver has hypersensitive defaults [16:03] regular natty/oneiric/precise picks up my finger hovering over the touchpad [16:07] hmm [16:08] does synclient ResolutionDetect=0 change it any? [16:08] distro specific patch that might interfere with upstream changes [16:10] its crazy i dont have any machines with synaptics touchpads anymore [16:10] everything is alps now [16:11] guess i could try synaptics on a mac's bcm5974 [16:21] that synclient command doesn't help. i can mess around with gpointing settings, but i have no idea what the options do [16:21] and they sometimes help, but not enough to make usable [16:58] Sarvatt, i dont have it running well here neither [17:05] ricotz, re: the gold linker, i talked to the developer and he says there was a patch in july that fixed the kernel issue, which is why your precise build worked. that patch would also be in oneiric's binutils-gold, so there are no worries int he present or future [17:16] bjsnider, alright, maybe this fix is worth backporting to lucid then [17:19] it is [17:27] but, backport the patch to binutils-gold or backport an update to everything that uses dkms to force the normal linker? [17:41] bjsnider, backporting the binutils fix [17:43] i'll check to see if it builds [17:45] bjsnider, to be clear i meant like backporting this specific fix to 2.20.1 [17:52] yep, i understood [17:53] the questionis whether it will build against a 2 year old version, but i will check it out [18:28] ricotz, found the patch, tested it against the binutils package in lucid, and it works. it is a relatively small change. so what is the next step? [18:44] bjsnider, i think link the bug against binutils attach a debdiff and ping doko to explain it [18:45] bjsnider, #ubuntu-devel [18:45] cool [18:47] bjsnider, you have checked the dmks build to confirm it works? [18:47] *dkms [18:48] no [19:01] i'd need a guinea pig using lucid for that [19:13] bjsnider, i guess if you get it into lucid-proposed you will find one [22:41] zomg, is that what I think it is? http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~unity-team/unity/trunk/revision/1728#plugins/unityshell/src/GeisAdapter.cpp [22:41] unity working with edgers? say it isn't so! [22:42] * Sarvatt prods the macbook air to build faster [22:43] sure as heck looks like it'd fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/860707 [22:43] Launchpad bug 860707 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Unity crashes when started in an environment without utouch support (affects: 41) (dups: 2) (heat: 194)" [High,Confirmed] [22:47] awesome, it does - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/850623 [22:47] Sarvatt: Error: Bug #850623 not found. [22:47] nice [22:47] been a real PITA not being able to use edgers directly for the past month and a half :) [22:54] I have the multitouch server patches half-updated here. Now that it seems like there's a workaround for the fn-f7 thingy I might finish that before kernel diving. [22:55] guess i should package up xf86-input-mtrack properly since its pretty much required on this MBA [22:56] RAOF: -background none from lightdm is just racy, i get it maybe 2/10 boots on this machine [22:56] * Sarvatt isn't surprised [22:57] This is a fast sandybridge? What happens on the failed boots? [22:57] just no -background none, I dont even see the splash because it boots so fast [22:57] if X is started in <8 seconds or so I dont get it [22:58] unity doesn't build in parallel? ugh! [23:00] Does here? [23:01] Although cmake *does* manage the difficult feat of being a more annoying build system than autotools. [23:03] does it? [23:04] DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="parallel=4" debuild -uc -us -b sure as heck doesn't [23:04] watching it bounce around 100% cpu usage between the cores [23:12] oh wow, xf86-input-mtrack is in debian now [23:18] Why do we have another non-evdev input DDX, and why do Airs need it? [23:23] would be sad if it's perceived as easier to create a whole driver from scratch than it is to update the existing driver [23:29] i spent a few hours trying to make synaptics sane and gave up when this worked perfectly out of the box :) [23:29] To some extent it will be; the kernel has a crazy lead-time for driver improvements. [23:30] no luck with the unity change, avoids GeisAdapter, still crashes in libutouch-geis [23:30] unity-2d it is [23:40] time to rebuild unity with debug symbols [23:48] I suggest also DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="noopt nostrip" [23:49] Orlando: 27C, Haze. [23:49] Yeah, that sounds about right. [23:51] Inside the conference rooms: 10C