[00:00] douglas-web-dev: use chown and chgrp [00:00] thsanks, i didn't think of that [00:00] urlin2u: unless, the disc is not working properly perhaps? I am unsure of how to proceed, everywhere i read online fsck, and e2fsck seem to fix the same error but I still have not identified the specific source of the problem [00:00] douglas-web-dev, use "chown" [00:00] Back [00:00] douglas-web-dev, chown -R username:username BUT since you didn't do the original copy correctly most likely all the permissions are wrong, so things like .ssh will have the wrong permissions if you do this [00:00] mdsilva, thank you [00:00] hi. i'm already tuned on upgrade from 10.04.3 LTS to 12.04 LTS and my question is: i have two partitions, / (root) and encrypted /home. let's say, that i want to upgrade to newer version of ubuntu and i only want to remove contents of / (root) partition - /home is going to be about the same. how to do it proper way? [00:00] hey listen, i have a script called trz.sh i want to be able to run that script from terminal wherever im at [00:00] can anyone tell me a "stick notes" program that show the note on desktop like post-it? [00:00] i dont want to ./trz.sh i just wanna trz and thats it [00:01] urlin2u: I assume sda1 is screwy because it has an invalid superblock, but I cannot fsck it [00:01] Boontoo, sounds like something is broken, I have never had to run a fsck I just reisntall. [00:01] fellayaboy_: put it in ~/bin and login again [00:01] fellayaboy_, add it to your .bashrc where you export $PATH [00:01] douglas-web-dev: chown --recursive owner:group /home/user/you [00:01] urlin2u: I have tried both before...but I need some of the data on sdb1 [00:01] urlin2u: and I cannot boot [00:01] RxDx, tomboy [00:01] ppangolin: you just do the standard upgrade procedure [00:01] Boontoo, can you open the partition from a live cd? [00:02] nope, it is only set at full, and all other settings make the problem worse [00:02] escott, tomboy dont stick the note on desktop [00:02] douglas-web-dev: Is that enough to get you going? [00:02] qin - it's my lightdm that was my prob.. kdm boots and lets me in... [00:02] urlin2u: I am doing all of this from a live cd. when I get the error, I don't even have a shell [00:02] jrib: i would like to install it from scratch, no updates. format / root partition as ext4 and clean install. [00:02] urlin2u: but when I try to use gparted, it crashes unexpectedly [00:02] escott, thank you. So I get on the folder via terminal and type chown -R username:username (same username twice, right?) [00:02] Boontoo, go to home and the left panel and open the partition. [00:02] !encrypted | ppangolin [00:02] ppangolin: For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory [00:03] ppangolin, you should read the documentation on ecryptfs, and make sure you have a backup copy of the key. look in .ecryptfs for instructions on how to copy that key [00:03] stercor, thank you, all try it here :) [00:03] I'll* [00:03] ppangolin: read information there on how to properly record your passphrase [00:03] is it possible to use a 2.6.x kernel from 11.04 in 11.10 ? [00:03] where can I find embedded wireless devices in /dev ? there're not under wlan [00:03] jrib, escott: the name of user that will be on that computer will be indentically that same [00:03] Boontoo, or at least look to see if it shows. [00:03] ppangolin: I'd guess that if you keep user password the same it should "just work", but I'd still have the passphrase recorded in a safe place [00:04] douglas-web-dev, chown -R u:u /home/u. yes. the u after the : is the group. most files are owned by you and the group is your group. however the permissions on things like .ssh/id_rsa may be wrong [00:04] i love fucking users female ubuntu [00:04] escott, i just tried all my other settings for the plasma, and this is the best [00:04] whats the shortcut to show desktop? [00:04] urlin2u: I see both disks there, but one of them won't open [00:04] kkkkkk [00:04] sorry [00:04] im sorry mans [00:04] Ragnarock: Is english your first language? [00:04] yo can u turn a whatever.sh to a bin???? so if u put in in /usr/bin it will work?????? how do u do that pooooolellease [00:05] Ragnarock: learn english [00:05] Boontoo, is that the one you want, sdb is it a external drive like a usb or internal? [00:05] fellayaboy_: chmod +x whatever.sh [00:05] urlin2u: they are both internal [00:05] how can I figure out what device my wireless is? [00:05] fellayaboy_, ~/bin is exported in the $PATH. anything that is executable in ~/bin will be executable on the command line without the full path. so move it to ~/bin and chmod +x it [00:05] stercor but it only works if i go to the directoy and type ./whatever.sh [00:05] fellayaboy_: put it in /bin or create soft link (ln -s) [00:05] ktosiek, learn english ? [00:05] BTW escott, the os identifies the plasma as a 32" when it's a 50 " [00:05] Ragnarock, will try to take your comment in it's least chauvinistic sense. which might be difficult [00:05] escott, thank you. I'm doing it [00:06] hmmm s8nee soft link??????? [00:06] what is soft lin? [00:06] fellayaboy_: You have to have it in a directory that is in your path. echo $PATH [00:06] fellayaboy_, you shouldn't mess with /usr - use ~/bin instead (FYI you need to log out/back in after creating that directory for it to work) [00:06] anyone here know how to create a fakeroot.tar.gz file of an environment? [00:06] urlin2u: I wonder if just unplugging sda1 would allow sdb1 to load? [00:06] escott excelent idea so i just dump the whatever.sh into bin and i would be able to jsut type whatever in terminal whereever im at and BOOM it will work? [00:07] fellayaboy_: Ya got it. [00:07] urlin2u: I don't think sda1 has boot partition for sdb1 anyway [00:07] fellayaboy_, as long as the executable bit is set, and you are logged in as yourself [00:07] fellayaboy_: But it has to be executable. [00:07] 8C huh zykotick9 [00:07] fellayaboy_: The chmod +x does that. [00:07] OH OK GUYS I GOT THAT [00:07] Boontoo, shouldn't make a difference. the boot if none are gpt is the mbr. [00:07] NO PROBLEM SO ILL JUST DUMP IT INTO BIN... [00:07] thanks guys [00:08] fellayaboy_: /usr/bin, or better, /usr/local/bin [00:08] in /etc/hosts, if I want to define 6 sites to point to 127.0.0.1, can i define the hostnames to bind to that address all on one line rather than have multiple lines containing 127.0.0.1 [00:08] fellayaboy_: stay away from /bin [00:08] ? [00:08] Ragnarock, your comment was confusing/offensive. if you have a question please ask it [00:08] stercor why is that???? [00:08] stercor, ~/bin is a better suggestion [00:08] Boontoo, so what Os"do you have and on what drives? [00:08] OS's [00:08] fellayaboy_: The system uses it. [00:09] hmmm so whos is right zykotick9 or stecor [00:09] zykotick9: Is ~/bin normally in the path? [00:09] urlin2u: I should have ubuntu 10.10 on both drives, but I usually only boot from one [00:09] can some one tell me where I can set hotkeys in 11.10 like we could do before ? [00:09] hey does anyone know how to delete files in the root folder via terminal? [00:09] stercor, yes by default - but you need to logout/back in for it to work [00:09] zykotick9: If so, I've learned something valuable! :-) [00:09] stercor: yes, if you have it at login time [00:09] urlin2u: under /dev I appear to have an sda1, sda2, sda3, that I do not recall making at all [00:09] Boontoo, can you pastebin the output from a sudo fdisk -lu on the live cd. [00:09] Untitled_only, yes using the "rm" command, but it's probably a really bad idea [00:09] sure [00:09] Untitled only just sudo rm [00:10] BTW anyone knows why ~/bin isn't just added to PATH? [00:10] sorry escott [00:10] ktosiek, it is [00:10] ok. [00:10] * stercor checks his path... [00:10] escott: even when it doesn't exist [00:10] ktosiek, no only when it exists, unless you have changes your .bashrc. check /etc/skel/.bashrc [00:10] ktosiek, it must exist at login for it to work [00:10] im sorry [00:10] hmm so which is it guys...zyco or sterco [00:10] urlin2u: http://pastebin.com/2szDiMxv [00:11] urlin2u: sorry it is a capital S [00:11] zykotick9 or sterco? which one is better...using /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin [00:11] escott, my problem is solved, i just had to take another look at the controls got the plasma, it has a second set of size settings that i missed. [00:11] fellayaboy_, neither - ~/bin [00:11] fellayaboy_, programs for just yourself go in ~/bin. programs for everyone not installed by apt-get go in /usr/local/bin or /opt [00:11] ktosiek, you can add it to your path very easily [00:11] thanks [00:11] escott: /etc/skel/.profile:if [ -d "$HOME/bin" ] ; then [00:11] hmm [00:11] fellayaboy_, you should never manually modify anything in /usr/bin or /bin. that is for apt to manage [00:11] so path will recognize both /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin by default? [00:12] mdsilva: I know, I'm just questioning the defaults :-) [00:12] escott bingo thats very important [00:12] so its /usr/local/bin [00:12] fellayaboy_, /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin are exported as part of the path for everyone in /etc/profile [00:12] thanks escott, and mdsilva, you guys pointed me in the right direction. [00:12] im the only user so for me it doenst matter [00:12] Chraz_Ritt, good [00:12] anyone here know how to create a fakeroot.tar.gz file of an environment? [00:13] Hmmm....~/bin didn't work for me. [00:13] but any other day i would have to edit the bash_profile [00:13] i.e., I want to create a fakeroot I can uncompress and chroot into [00:13] My desktop is hanging on login for some users, but not others. I determined that it's getting hung at a "gsettings get" call, which returns the result but is not exiting the process for the stuck users. Any ideas? [00:13] Boontoo, so what was on each hd as in installs? [00:13] stercor, have you logged out? or run a bash --login? have you modified your ~/.bashrc [00:13] urlin2u: Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick [00:13] I edited /etc/environment; then source /etc/environment; then echo $PATH [00:14] Boontoo, on which hd? [00:14] stercor, I didn'T catch the rest of this but ~/bin means /home/username/bin are you sure that's what you want ? [00:14] urlin2u: should have been on both, but I have only been running the bigger hd [00:14] escott, it worked! I'd never do it that fast, thanks a lot! :) [00:14] Anyone know where to get the New Century Schoolbook font? [00:14] plummerb, have you tried on gnomelook.org ? [00:14] Boontoo, was it a cloned maverick from one to another? [00:14] Pelo: I don't believe ~ resolved correctly. Better to put `/home/user/bin' in the path. [00:15] douglas-web-dev, id still be worried about your permissions. if you dont tell cp to preserve the owner permissions they could be all wrong [00:15] there was a blackout here. thanks God It rarely happens. [00:15] does anyone here know how to use aircrack-ng? [00:15] urlin2u: I think i separately installed it on sdb1, and then I chose sda1 in BIOS each time I wanted to run it [00:15] Pelo I have not. I will look. [00:16] escott, even not having .ssh files? [00:16] Boontoo, okay so did you get a kernel update on the sdb1 manerick, that will change the grub control to the sdb HD. [00:16] stercor, I meant that it didn'T point to the regular /bin in the folder tree. and but if you are talking about a bin folder in the home folder, isn'T it usualy ~/.bin ? [00:16] maverick* [00:16] brb ima see if dumping it into local/bin will work [00:16] They now belong to my user. What could be wrong, escott? [00:16] douglas-web-dev, i would audit your permissions. you'll want to use find to figure out how things are permissioned [00:16] urlin2u: I am not sure, there was an automated update as I restarted, I could not see what it was doing because the window was not displaying text [00:17] douglas-web-dev, when you cped and lost your ownership you probably changed the rwx bits. so you need to verify that nothing secret has been exposed [00:17] Boontoo, the only way a kernel can update is in a regular update/upgrade. Have you tried changing the first drive to be read in the bios? [00:17] urlin2u: but I do not remember seeing the new kernel option on statrup [00:18] urlin2u: yes, i tried both drives [00:18] hello. it's possible to install ubuntu in ramdisk? [00:18] i dumped my trz.sh into /usr/local/bin and typed in trz..... nothing worked.. :( [00:18] i sudo chmod +x trz.sh [00:18] but still [00:18] no luck [00:18] and somehow manage load after each reboot [00:18] urlin2u: it never loads [00:18] Boontoo, not sure really since your not really sure yourself what happened, lol I have my limitations. === michael is now known as Guest90338 [00:19] fellayaboy_, have run bash --login then try again [00:19] MechanisM, what would be the point of this, otherthen slowing your system down ? [00:19] urlin2u: I think I might just do a fresh install on sdb1 [00:19] aaahhh...typing in trz.sh worked though === don is now known as Guest36002 === Guest90338 is now known as Burzmali_ [00:19] Pelo just want very fast system [00:20] escott, It's only my wife and I that use this computer. She has hers own, so almost never she uses mine. I don't have anything here to hide from her. You mean exposure for local users or the internet? [00:20] MechanisM, I'm pretty certain that's not the way to go about it [00:20] Pelo why slowin? [00:20] Boontoo, do what you think is needed, I uae external HD to back stuff up so I never loose anything, both the actual items and clones of the OS using clonezilla. [00:20] wow so just renaming trz.sh to trz solved all my problems [00:20] now all i have to do is trz wherever im at [00:21] well..couldnt have done it without u guys....THANK U [00:21] MechanisM, well, the live desktop session runs off the memory , do you think that is faster then an hdd install ? [00:21] I have 15000rpm disks for system\swap but want more [00:22] MechanisM, you can have a flash run the swap [00:22] just wondered if ubuntu can be installed in ram somehow [00:22] MechanisM, what you want is LFS [00:22] douglas-web-dev, for local users mostly, but you should be sure to use cp -a next time [00:23] douglas-web-dev, also some programs will refuse to work if secret data is not permissioned correctly. examples would be the .ssh/authorized_keys file will be ignored if it is not permissioned correctly [00:24] Pelo no I wanna keep ubuntu and just wondered if it's can running from ramdisk [00:24] New Century Schoolbook font is not on gnome-look.org. Anyone know where I can get it? [00:24] MechanisM, installed in ram? how would it be permanent? in what way would that consitute installed? === Mintal is now known as Prosecuteur [00:24] plummerb, have you got a windows install you can "borrow" it from? [00:24] escott, is there some simple document on the web explaining these terminal command lines? And about Ubuntu, do you know some webpage to increase productivity? [00:24] plummerb, there are a number of fonts in apt, have you checked there. is it part of mscorefonts? [00:25] !manual | douglas-web-dev [00:25] douglas-web-dev: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [00:25] plummerb, http://www.fontemple.com/free-download/7287-New-Century-Schoolbook.html [00:25] !permissions | douglas-web-dev [00:25] douglas-web-dev: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [00:25] douglas-web-dev, and the most useful book is probably unix in a nutshell [00:25] escott, thank you for the advices [00:25] hai [00:26] escott just like Redis server do with it's database. each second dump database in file. [00:26] escott, Cool! I saved the book name :) [00:26] i continually get not found in archive error message on untarballing files [00:27] same here load ramdisk from dump and all updates dump in file(for load next time and by default keep all in ram) [00:27] foolovem sounds like corrupted files [00:27] MechanisM, so you want to run it off a ramdisk, and somehow snapshot that to the harddrive. you would need a kernel driver for that, and it doesn't sound like a good idea. far far far too easy to end up with an unbootable system. there is a reason we have filesystems [00:28] escott 'm just got pc with 256GB ram and wanted system in ramdisk lol [00:28] MechanisM. wow, that's a lot of ram. what kind of pc is it? [00:29] MechanisM, (a) that seems pointless. you will make your boot slower as it reads all the binaries of executables you won't need into ram [00:29] it's ex-database server. also it's have 4 processors each 10 cores [00:30] I got it from some unsuccessfull internet start-up [00:30] (b) you could do it by working your way down to a ro core fs, and then building a ramdisk of that and mounting it instead of the real root, when you need to update you reboot but to the hd root, make you modifications, and rebuild your ramdisk [00:30] MechanisM, make it a mini watson. [00:30] * pnorman wishes he had that kind of machine for his DB === Prosecuteur is now known as Switzaide [00:30] if you ever lose power, it's all gone [00:31] I thought maybe theres some good way for it. if not I'll keep system on 15000rpm sas disk [00:32] that sounds safer [00:32] MechanisM, if you care soo little about your data just use a LD_PRELOAD trick with eatmydata to disable your database servers sync calls [00:32] hi, I used to be able to, when gnome snarled itself up badly enough, do `service gdm restart`, but that doesn't work anymore. What should I use as a replacement to restart X and the whole login stack without a hard reboot? [00:32] I just tried to upgrade from 11.04 to 11.10. It said the upgrade could not be completed successfully and that I should restart. When I restarted, the Ubuntu progress bar goes across, but then I get a white screen. I tried "recovery mode" which I thought was like "safe mode" but I just get a root terminal prompt. Any suggestions? [00:32] escott I said it's ex-database server. now it's my home pc [00:33] a 15k sas drive (or maybe a few in raid cfg) sounds better [00:33] daviddoria, what does "init" say, and what does "mount" say about the "/" partition [00:34] astory, perhaps try to tab complete on "sudo service light" and see if lightdm is there (sorry I don't use ubuntu, so not sure it's there) [00:34] daviddoria, sorry i mean "runlevel" not init [00:34] mdsilva: particularly since any machine with that much ram is likely to be able to run hardware raid with very fast disks [00:34] zykotick9: it is, I'll try that next time. I should have thought of that :D [00:34] mdsilva I used one 15k 600GB sas for system and swap and 4 satas 3TB for files using them as folders not in raid [00:35] guys i have linux-headers-2.6.32-33 in the autoremovable option in synaptic,,i want that installed,,how can i do that ? [00:35] MechanisM, for all the times someone has their ubuntu crash or lockup, if you were doing that in ramdisk then it's all gone on the first crash [00:36] what im missing so they wont install,thats the image i need,i have to used in order to patch it with madwifi drivers [00:36] can anyone else confirm that xentoollog.h is missing from libxen-dev for xen 4.1 installs [00:37] so many friends [00:38] so litle time [00:38] does anyone know how to compile python 3.2 on Ubuntu 11.10? [00:40] Jimtuv why not installing via apt? [00:40] no it isnt [00:41] !info python3.2 [00:41] python3.2 (source: python3.2): Interactive high-level object-oriented language (version 3.2). In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.2-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 3824 kB, installed size 13220 kB [00:47] Can anyone tell me the program name to run at a bash shell/terminal session to run the graphical file manager built into ubuntu/unity [00:48] eSoul, nautilus [00:48] thank yuou === shark is now known as Guest88045 [00:49] eSoul: nautilus ? [00:50] anyone know why I would get: gcc: error: unrecognized option '-no-cpp-precomp' [00:50] odd, it doesnt load the icons for the files/folders in the file manager over my remote X session, but everything else seems to work [00:50] cipher, g++ [00:50] g++? [00:50] cipher, also it's probably --no-cpp-precomp [00:51] eSoul, you probably need something like gsettings-daemon running [00:51] I grep'd through the entire source tree for precomp and turned up with nothing [00:52] so it must be some default that's putting it there or something [00:52] cipher, have you checked the makefile [00:52] Hi, somehow apt installed php-pear in the wrong location (/root) how do I completely remove it so that I re-install it in the right place? === skione_ is now known as SkiOne [00:53] i see. sorry, just my perfered way of doing remote X work on my network is to just ssh -X into my box and run a local X server on my windows box [00:53] any graphic designers here with a connection to stock photos? [00:54] escott, just from the root terminal? [00:54] sure [00:54] daviddoria, yes [00:56] runlevel says "N S" [00:56] mount says "/dev/sda7 on / type ext4 (rw,errors=remount-ro,user_xattr)" [00:57] @escott [00:57] SEND [] [00:58] daviddoria, ok so your fs is rw which is good. I would plug in an ethernet cord and try to see if you can get network connectivity "ping www.google.com" to see if you are online [00:58] daviddoria, then try to run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade; === michael__ is now known as Burzmali_ [00:59] is there a way to turn on my wireless? it is a laptop [00:59] daviddoria, if you cannot ping, you could try "init 2" and see if you can get past whatever issue caused your boot to fail, and if it refuses to go to runlevel 2 you can just try apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade; without internet connectivity [00:59] can anyone point me to a good article about folder encryption? [00:59] daviddoria, "iwlist scan" < works? (sudo if necessary) [01:00] !encrypted kouellette [01:00] kouellette, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory [01:00] daviddoria, its not worth your time to try and get your wireless working, just plug in [01:00] Thanks guys and gals! [01:01] if anyone ever reads/searches the log for this channel: cool 'n' quiet failed because for some reason, it gets disabled when I install 4 memory modules [01:01] escott - 'init 2' says "the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. continue to wait, or press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery [01:01] escott - the drive is fine - I booted from a live cd and I can see all my files, etc [01:02] daviddoria, thats strange because mount is saying that it is mounted [01:02] daviddoria, another approach would be to try and recover from a livecd chroot environment [01:04] I just ran 'apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade' and it didn't seem to do anything [01:04] Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-) [01:04] Hello Sandra [01:04] I hope you are all doing well. [01:04] we are [01:05] vn3Ben, Hello [01:05] glad to hear it :-) [01:05] but sorting out IRC matters (i'm a noob): [01:05] Maybe you can help [01:05] Good luck with that :-) [01:05] daviddoria: define "not doing anything? [01:05] " [01:05] I'd like to connect with #django but it says I need to be identified. How do I do that? [01:05] do you know? [01:05] !register | vn3Ben [01:05] vn3Ben: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [01:05] vn3Ben, google freenode register [01:06] OK, thanks, I'll look into that [01:07] tonyyarusso, it tried to install 3 unimportant packages but they all failed [01:07] BTW I'm running a 11.10 on a MacBook Pro 7,1, some hiccups but otherwise quite OK [01:07] daviddoria, does it say why it is failing? [01:07] daviddoria: failed with what message? (A failure isn't "nothing") [01:07] daviddoria, or are you just assuming? [01:08] vn3Ben, google ubuntu wiki macbook-- there are few tricks (commands likely) for common macbooks [01:08] it says "the following packages have been kept back: [there are a bunch of boost things mostly). After this 0 B of additional space will be used [01:08] Hello, I've been googling for long now without finding the answer to this: what fonts are safe to remove from /usr/share/fonts? All the answers I find tell me to use apt-get to remove unused packages, but I don't want to remove them per se, I want to move them out in another dir until I need them [01:08] resolving archive.canonical.com failed [01:09] subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 for flashplugin-downloader [01:09] daviddoria: So you have a DNS resolution problem. [01:09] Error: Trouble connecting to Dropbox servers [01:09] Yeah, that all sounds like DNS. [01:09] tonyyarusso, yes, I'm not connected [01:09] daviddoria: well, how did you expect to install them then? Were you hoping to use a CD or something? [01:10] escott just said to try that even unconnected [01:10] I was just following instructions :) === vn3Ben is now known as benz [01:10] I dont see how installing those packages is going to get it to boot any better though? [01:10] daviddoria, i thought u were asking about a wifi connection problem === benz is now known as benvn === benvn is now known as vinaben === vinaben is now known as ct3ben [01:11] daviddoria, if you dont have any cat5e i would buy some. but for now it may be easier to try things from a chroot on the livecd [01:12] escott, cat6 [01:12] I actually feel like it is just a video driver problem - after the ubuntu progress bar goes across when it tries to boot, the screen slowly fades to white (it's all blotchy, very strange actually) [01:12] yagoo: ok thanks (was vn3Ben) [01:12] daviddoria, so are you able to boot normally but are choosing to boot to single? === ct3ben is now known as benoi [01:13] daviddoria, because if you can boot normally just boot to text, and do things there === benoi is now known as benct [01:13] when i try to boot normally the screen turns white. I am using the "recovery" item in grub, which brings me to this root shell [01:13] hi, I am trying to install gnome 3 on a fresh ubuntu 11.10 -- tried gnome-shell --replace and got an xwindow error, no more menubars showing, can't click on windows. thanks in advance [01:14] daviddoria, use the grub boot editor to put "text" right before where it says "splash" and then boot that. you should get a text console where things will work === leon is now known as Guest34981 [01:14] benhem, u have new "options" from the logon gui [01:14] benhem, have you tried logout/login with the different option [01:14] benhem, you get to the shell from the login area [01:14] nope, ok. I'll reboot [01:14] thanks [01:14] benhem, i would also do - apt-get install gnome-fallback-session (or maybe gnome-session-fallback) [01:14] is that gnome 2? [01:14] benhem, click the gear icon picture [01:15] that is gone [01:15] (window manager options from gear icon) [01:15] benhem: no you dont have to reboot. just log out, choose session then log in again [01:15] for 11.10? [01:15] escott - I don't see it say "splash" anywhere when I press 'e' to edit the kernel args in grub [01:15] yes, 11.10 [01:15] benhem, you installed gdm to replace lightdm? [01:15] or whatever it was by default, yeah [01:15] I thought it was called 'unity' [01:15] escott, sorry, now I do [01:15] maybe with the other gdm/kdm logon scressn u should still see the other options [01:15] oh, you mean gnome-desktop-manager, the package? [01:15] I didn't; I just got gnome-shell and its dependencies [01:16] which might have included that [01:16] benhem, LOGON screen.. there's not a gear icon (top right corner of username) [01:16] escott, even with 'text' the screen does this totally bizarre fade to blotchy white thing [01:16] Ok, brb. I do have to restart to log out I think [01:16] daviddoria, try text nosplash nomodeset? [01:18] yep, that worked! it booted normally [01:18] daviddoria, probably modesetting add nomodeset to your /etc/default/grub default boot options [01:19] I'll give that a try [01:19] thank you so much [01:21] daviddoria, and we haven't done anything to address whatever caused your original upgrade to finish successfully check /var/log/apt to see what needs to be done there [01:21] back -- yagoo, I am not sure how to get to window manager options [01:22] is the sun java jdk no longer available in the oneiric repos at all? I'm not finding any documentation on it, and apt-get install sun-java6-jdk isn't working [01:22] i know javevm updated to 7? did oneiric push it as well? [01:22] escott, will do, that's a fight for the morning :) [01:22] daviddoria, in the future try to explain the full problem, would have been easier if you described the white splotchiness first [01:23] eSoul, openjdk 7 is available [01:23] benhem, what does your logon screen look like? what i meant is a selection of different "window desktops" - eg: choosing unity, gnome-classic, etc. [01:23] everything in the repos are against java6 or gcj which is just dumb [01:23] escott, ok sorry, I thought the failed upgrade was causing the splotchyness, so I thought that was the thing to fix [01:23] I didn't get that. the gnome-replace process failed, though [01:23] (yagoo) [01:23] I know openjdk is available. I'd really like to install sun (oracle's jdk) from the repos [01:23] benhem, can u open a terminal? [01:24] what is the deal with that splotchyness anyway? I've seen wrong drivers display lower resolutions , or not work at all (black screens) but never almost work and fade to a splotchy white? [01:24] yagoo, sure [01:24] daviddoria, integration with plaintext video modes [01:24] daviddoria, its trying to setup the videocard and isn't doing something right === jp is now known as emcrules [01:24] daviddoria, so that between ctl-alt-f1 and ctl-alt-f7 is quick -- and that u can use special video modes in plain text [01:25] daviddoria, this is called kms -- kernelmodeset -- it uses some video code routine.. it's sort of still beta imho [01:25] interesting - ok thanks all, i'll be back once I look into this apt log [01:26] benhem, ps aux|grep -i lightdm [01:26] ok [01:27] found [01:28] benhem, can u pastebin it ?(dont paste in chan) [01:29] yagoo: http://paste2.org/p/1740845 [01:30] I have several wordpress installations using virtual hosts for different domains. What do I need to look into to enable them to each send email from their respective domain? [01:30] benhem, a sec.. [01:31] so I find that ubuntu 3d is supposed to work with nvidia due to my fresh install working... how come I can only use Ubuntu 2d on my other desktop with nvidia? [01:32] burner, have you installed the proprietary drivers [01:32] Is there no "discussion" page for the Ubuntu wiki? If I have a change I want to submit but ain't not sure of it, I should start the discussion in-page? What's the preferred use? [01:33] marksman: what mail client is your webserver using? [01:33] I don't currently have one configured [01:33] benhem, u sure that it's the only 1? there's should be at least a good number of result [01:33] escott: I have [01:33] marksman: it really depends on many parameters, but you're better off asking in php-related or wordpress-related places [01:33] escott: when I start unity 3d, I get no toolbars or anything... I just see my wallpaper [01:34] benhem, u upgraded? [01:34] marksman: yea, you should ask in #apache [01:34] anyone: if you have a moment: i think my dvd rom is out of alignment or something. can that cause it not to read certain dvd's at all? if i try to use an ubuntu live cd in it, and i "check disk for errors," can it detect errors when there aren't any because of that? [01:34] xananax, thanks will try there [01:34] yagoo: that's all. my suspicion is that the gnome-replace got halfway and then aborted [01:34] benhem, i dont think its that [01:34] k.. [01:34] benhem, u must of done something system wide.. [01:35] well, I did -- I mean, I ran gnome-shell --replace [01:35] marksman: I think wordpress should be using the default apache mailer which is not really configurable, but I guess there should be some wordpress extension that allows you to configure mails, using pear::Mail or something [01:35] benhem, ? [01:35] benhem, gnome-shell is not a pacakge [01:35] i mean is not a command.. [01:36] benhem, convention command for user changes is it? [01:36] does Unity 3d keep a log file somewhere so i can see why it's not loading properly? [01:37] benhem, are you using the user as "root" ? [01:37] benhem, (i don't think u should be) [01:37] no, I didn't have to sudo either [01:37] let me see if I still have it in bash [01:38] exit [01:38] pfff [01:38] benhem, did u bother rebooting? You should have a good number of results with grep lightdm [01:38] I did reboot; same results [01:38] benhem, did u make another user? [01:38] benhem, but u did something system wide.. [01:38] nope... [01:38] benhem, what other commands with apt-get did u do? [01:39] all I did was get gnome-shell package using Synaptic... and then run "gnome-shell --replace" which ws an instruction from a website [01:39] benhem, what site was this? [01:39] one sec [01:39] hi ,everyone [01:40] hey all: I used relinux (http://relinux.sourceforge.net/) to make a live image of my current system, and I *think* it enabled zramswap (I had zram enabled as swap on rebooting to my desktop) - I couldn't find anyplace in /etc/init.d to disable it; where should I be looking? [01:40] hlbice: don't ask to ask, just ask [01:40] anyone use ubuntu 11.10? [01:40] I'm on 11.10 [01:40] it's faster than 11.04, [01:40] I like it [01:42] does anyone know of a pdb to txt converter, or doc or anything out of pdb? [01:42] benhem, u should get something like this -> (and I'm also not logged in any X-- i left the logon screen on) [01:42] I use it on ASUS netbook [01:42] benhem, http://paste.ubuntu.com/720290/ === Auriel_ is now known as Auriel [01:43] yagoo: http://digitizor.com/2009/11/10/install-gnome3-ubuntu/ [01:43] benhem, that's 2009 [01:43] benhem, it still doesn't make sense.. u're lying or only telling half the truth.. [01:44] benhem, u did something with apt.. [01:44] benhem, did u try to install gdm? [01:44] benhem, after u install gdm.. install lightdm.. [01:44] benhem, try this from tty1 [01:45] benhem, lightdm will disable gdm.. [01:45] benhem, dpkg-reconfigure lightdm doesn't work [01:45] bsmith093: are you talking about a file from InkWriter/Note Taker? [01:45] (i just tried so) [01:45] http://paste.ubuntu.com/720290/ << notice all these results with lightdm [01:46] slimjimflim: no i mean a palm pilot text file format, its the only format i can find for this collection of fanfic im trying to download [01:46] bsmith093: did you look at it with a text editor? [01:46] slimjimflim: i would like to convert out of it, if possible [01:47] yagoo, I don't know what to tell you re: system wide changes or lightdm grep results. I didn't do anything from command line except that gnome-shell --replace thing, and I didn't use apt-get to obtain gnome-shell; I used Synaptic [01:47] i mean did you try just changing the extension and looking at it with cat? [01:47] bsmith093, have you tried txt2pdbdoc? says "..and back" [01:47] or notepad or something? [01:47] benhem, i gave u something to try and fix it.. [01:47] yagoo, maybe no harm is done and I can continue trying to use gnome [01:47] pff [01:47] I didn't see the suggestion? [01:47] benhem: you lost your xwindows? [01:48] slimjimflim: yeah, I got some kind of error and lost a lot of the gui at first, but it came back on restart [01:48] slimjimflim: apparently I was following ancient instructions that told me to run: gnome-shell --replace [01:48] benhem, you're using a broked document for 11.10-- u broked ur logon manager [01:48] you know you can use `startx` if you don't have a gui? [01:48] from the cli [01:48] ok, didn't know that trick [01:49] * yagoo says u can choose gnome3 from the logon gui-- but someone gave breaking instructions to benhem [01:49] thanks ... so, if I have broked my logon manager, should I just reinstall ubuntu? [01:49] I'll try the logon screen thing again [01:49] benhem, i told u-> [01:49] i prefer xfce [01:49] yagoo, I'm not sure what you're talking about [01:50] benhem, go to tty1 (ctl-alt-f1), apt-get install gdm, then apt-get install lightdm -- when the prompt box ask if u want to replace gdm with lightdm.. let lightdm replace gdm.. [01:50] it's easier to just get the right iso in the first place than to try to change window managers after the fact [01:50] benhem, ^ [01:50] slimjimflim, stuf. [01:50] I cannot boot the 11.10 live cd. I just get "unable to find a medium containing a live filesystem". Any ideas how to debug this? [01:50] yagoo, ok! thanks [01:50] slimjimflim, stfu.. You're instructions are breaking his system. [01:50] ok? [01:50] yagoo: ltfs lurn 2 fcking spell [01:50] Hey now. watch the language please [01:50] i didn't start it [01:51] hi [01:51] got a problem overe here ... my session wont start === digitalice is now known as Guest3373 [01:52] ##opensource-es [01:52] i have the ew-7722in wireless card. it seems to be detected but it just says 'not connected'. anyone know what may be wrong? === Guest3373 is now known as digitalice_ [01:53] zyltoid_: can you see it with lspci ? [01:53] digitalice_: more details; tell the channel [01:53] it's me again, i'm now having trouble with java, running ubuntu from a newly burned live disk, and i can't seem to find an apt for java [01:53] slimjimflim: yeah, shows up as 'network controller: Ralink corp.' [01:54] zyltoid_: ok that's good. do you have iwconfig installed? [01:54] yep [01:54] can you see it with that? [01:55] yes i can [01:55] wlan0 [01:55] zyltoid_: good again ;) [01:55] ok so what do you get from iwlist? [01:55] i think that lists available access points [01:56] there are some other tools for scanning the air....one sec [01:56] anyone know how to install the block-list to Transmission v2.05??? [01:56] Chraz_Ritt: Java is probably not installed by default. You will have to install either Sun Java or OpenJDK [01:56] if i do 'iwlist scanning' i get 'No scan results' [01:56] zyltoid_, i believe iwlist scan does the full command [01:57] any info display on the screen? [01:57] zyltoid_: do you have an antenna? [01:57] yagoo: yeah, i did that and got the same message [01:57] slimjimflim: yeah, it has 2 antennas. it's a desktop pci btw [01:57] zykotick9, do u have a mac address for wlan0 ? [01:57] zyltoid_, i mean [01:57] zyltoid_, iwconfig [01:57] zyltoid_: can you see access points from any other computers in the same area? [01:58] Chraz_Ritt: I only know the name for openjdk, openjdk-6-jre [01:58] zyltoid_, see if u have a mac-address (HWADDR : xx:xx:xx:...) [01:58] yeah, there's a ton i can see from my laptop [01:58] Hey all, after my upgrade went to hell, I realized that I was unable to access my encrypted /Home partition because, frankly, I didn't know how. Can someone explain or point me to a concise explanation of how to mount an encrypted partition when running from a LiveCD/USB? === tum is now known as Guest17242 [01:58] what's the message you got when you ran iwlist [01:58] zyltoid_, for wlan0? [01:58] yagoo: no on my laptop [01:58] I just want to learn how, so I don't have to lose everything again! [01:58] `iwlist wlan0` [01:58] er maybe `iwlist` [01:59] yagoo: ifconfig gives me a mac address [01:59] *shows [01:59] can you pastebin the result of ifconfig and iwlist? [01:59] sure, 1 sec [02:00] you mean iwlist scan right? [02:00] iwlist on its own is just help [02:01] er yea [02:01] actually how about this: [02:01] iwlist eth1 scan [02:01] anyone know how to get to the #blackbuntu chan? [02:01] or iwlist wlan0 scan [02:01] I have a complete noob question... this is my first linux/ubuntu install. I installed 11.10 on a portablel usb and it's running smooth. However, I was wondering if I could bypass/remove grub as it's not necessary because I only plug in the drive when I want to use ubuntu. [02:01] do any of those give you a list of access points, or even one? [02:02] slimjimflim: no unfortunately, which is the problem :( [02:02] jsmith_98, i dont believe so. grub is what tells the system which kernel to boot up [02:02] zyltoid_: well it looks like your drivers and software are setup correctly [02:02] anyone know a decent filtering utility for ubuntu that converts to and from any of the following hex, binary, ascii , and maybe even character encodings [02:02] jsmith_98: You don't need to install it onto the USB drive. You only need to run it as a live session. [02:03] jsmith_98, if you did updates, and ended up getting an updated kernel version, you'd have to go and change a bunch of stuff again [02:03] or do that [02:03] jsmith_98: I believe if you remove all options except for Ubuntu kernel, and set an autoboot to 1 second it will be the same thing [02:03] zyltoid_: the next thing i'd do would be try running it somewhere that you know has a wireless connection [02:03] Is there a way in gnome-shell to remove one of the panels from the top, to make the screen real estate similar to what is in unity? (Only when windows are maximized) [02:03] slimjimflim: i know i have a wireless connect, i use the same card on windows OOB [02:03] ok... I'll just cleanup the grub and set it to 1 sec. [02:03] Thanks! [02:03] zyltoid_: you could also try: cat /var/log|grep [02:03] slimjimflim: here's pastebin http://pastebin.com/KVbPq9tQ [02:04] or: cat /var/log|less [02:04] jsmith_98: Hope that helps! it might flash for a second, but it's like the same thing, really. [02:04] eeee, legal [02:04] jsmith_98: It will run faster as a live CD, and if you enabled uhh what's it called...starts with a p... [02:04] i recently installed 11.10 and after it told me to eject the disc to restart, it never loads the OS. it stalls at a black screen with a cursor. does anyone have any idea if this has to do with nvidia driver ? [02:04] jsmith_98: If you enabled that, you can save changes made to it. [02:04] they have drivers on the site that i'd have to compile, but i figured since it's detected there might be a small issue i'm missing === jan247_ is now known as jan247 [02:05] zyltoid_: yea it looks like you just don't have any access points available on the air [02:05] zyltoid_: what kind of card is it? b/g/n? [02:05] * yagoo thinks slimjimflim doesn't know /var/log << IS NOT A FILE. [02:05] what kind of antennae? [02:05] pff [02:05] is there a google chrome 64-bit repo? [02:05] hello [02:05] I tried the liveCD but I had to select "test" and redo my settings every time [02:05] slimjimflim: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315099 [02:05] bad advice-- saying twice about /var/log << grepping using less on that-- ITS A DIRECTORY. [02:06] i know this is a linux forum, but the thousands of joined windows idiots are all asleep, so i came here where i can always get help [02:06] is there a chance the recov partition got infected by a trojan that overtook a windows pc [02:06] yagoo: my bad, i meant dmesg [02:06] jsmith_98: Because you didn't choose to preserve your files. [02:06] jsmith_98: What did you use to make the USB drive? [02:07] so: dmseg|less [02:07] *dmesg|less [02:07] laptop wireless cards are much better than pci for some reason :| [02:07] *than desktop [02:08] startup disk creator [02:08] yea cause you can move a laptop to the other side of the room [02:08] Also, is there a good place to go to find gnome-shell extensions? [02:08] #laptop [02:08] Hi, I'm going to do a new fresh ubuntu install. I just want to ask if it is enough keeping /home/me/.config/google-chrome to keep google chrome profile and configuration [02:08] jsmith_98: I don't use Ubuntu, but the option should be there. If not try using Unetbootin. [02:08] excuse me [02:08] thought about the pendrivelinux app but went that way instead... [02:09] I can deal with grub... it just slows the bootup [02:09] * yagoo reflects pendrive has more successrate than unetbootin&usbcreator put together [02:09] i found a post on opensuse forums where a guy claims the official driver for my card is supposed to be in kernel 2.6.40 + [02:09] /I'm gonna ask that on #chromium [02:09] i'm on 3.0 :| [02:10] zyltoid_, possibly [02:10] zyltoid_: worth a try [02:10] i'm on 3.0 already though [02:11] i guess i'll just compile what they provide. thanks for the help [02:11] zyltoid_: sometimes the newest version isn't the most stable [02:12] Hey, thanks for your help guys! I was expecting to get a bit of slack for being a noob. I guess we all started somewhere. [02:13] I'm sure you'll hear from me again. [02:14] jsmith_98, that's fine to ask nooby questions.. as long as you learn 1 step at a time than try to take it all in oneshot like some crazy clickheads that come once in awhile around ;) [02:19] how do I run valgrind compiz ? which means I need to stop the current instance and run that with the right parms and rights and whatever [02:20] i'm looking at the debian docs for my card and it the module is supposed to be 'rt2860sta' [02:20] but the loaded module i get is rt2800pci [02:21] i recently installed 11.10 , after installation completed it told me to remove the disc and press enter to restart so i did and now it only boots to a black screen with a flashing cursor [02:21] does anyone know how to resolve this or what might be causing it [02:21] ugh, why did i lose gedit-plugins? [02:21] Hello everyone, how can I change the authentication source on ubuntu? I am using kubuntu, tried there first, no dice. Thanks in advance. [02:21] Hmm, what's really the good point of that DASH thing in Unity? [02:22] Other than finding programs/files? [02:22] When using GNOME 3 on Ubuntu 11.10, why isn't there any minimize tab? [02:22] :c [02:22] i think it's supposed to be like quicksilver/spotlight on osx [02:22] Vustom: That's Gnome 3. [02:22] !info gnome-tweak-tool | Vustom [02:22] Vustom: gnome-tweak-tool (source: gnome-tweak-tool): tool to adjust advanced configuration settings for GNOME. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.0-0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 71 kB, installed size 656 kB [02:22] Vustom: because Gnome 3 doesn't have one by default, I think... [02:22] Or use gnome-tweak-tool [02:23] tntc: By default. No. [02:23] I have the GNOME Tweak Tool, what option do I enable? [02:23] So confusing :c [02:23] I installed Ubuntu 9.10 . But I cant seems up update the OS . it gives 404 errors on links , plus its the same when I goto install a software from Add/Remove [02:24] Vustom, on "Shell" Arrangement of buttons in titlebar [02:24] Vustom, agreed it should be under Windows [02:24] Vustom: Look in "Shell". [02:24] Vustom: Arrangement of buttons on titlebar. Make that set to "All". [02:25] Thanks! Also, there's this app called GNOME Pie, it's a desktop launcher, but for some reason when I start the app it doesn't appear on my desktop? [02:25] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/gnome-pie-application-launcher/ [02:25] So, does anyone know if there is a gnome-shell extension to make maximized windows appear closer to unity windows (ie almost full screen)? [02:26] anyone know the differnece between the rt2x00 module and the rt2800? [02:26] http://pastebin.com/x0uUiVfA anyoneknow why ? [02:27] Vustom, not sure if that will or will not work under gnome3. if it is structured as a compiz plugin it would be unity only. have you tried it under unity? === hexacode is now known as Guest10044 === _-_- is now known as JimmyJ [02:28] >:o guess everyone is sleeping :/ [02:29] becom33, your mirror could be down [02:29] escott: Not yet, :( [02:29] becom33, 1554 people according to the user list [02:29] becom33, is jaunty still supported [02:30] !eol [02:30] End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [02:30] after installing ccsm and changing the size of the icons in the "left" launcher bar.. they haven't changed size.. any suggestions? [02:30] becom33, jaunty is gone thats your problem [02:31] I have another problem, when I start my PC and boot into Ubuntu, the loading screen is just purple instead of the Ubuntu logo with the 5 dots, it does come up though, but at the last second [02:31] umm escott I have ubunut 11.10 . I had downgrade back to 9.4 coz the latest version was kinda messed up with the Gnome and it didnt take my VGA . btw how am I suppose to activate desktop effects in 11.10 ? [02:31] !downgrade | becom33 [02:31] becom33: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system. [02:32] escott: I didnt mean like that . I uninstalled the latest version and installed the older version again [02:32] escott: It should work with GNOME 3; this guy/girl has done it, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eo0QXJrv1hs [02:32] <_klk_> hi all. i'm running into some weird compile errors in ubuntu 11.10 for a project that used to compile just fine in 10.04. when it gets to the link stage, every single function call to an external library is marked with "undefined refernce to". does anyone know what might be going on? [02:32] But for me it doesn't want to work ;c [02:33] Vustom, i dont use it so I dont know. just suggesting it as a possible issue [02:33] <_klk_> a different project that uses the same libraries compiles fine [02:33] thought maby if I upgrade from the older version to the latest version effects and resolution might stay the same [02:33] Vustom, run it from a terminal and see if you get an error message [02:33] _klk_: that means it's not linking correctly. [02:33] <_klk_> all the libraries are installed into the various paths (/lib, /usr/lib, /usr/local/lib) [02:33] escott: gnome-pie right? [02:33] _klk_: do you have the correct -l statement? [02:33] <_klk_> Dougie187: how would i go about fixing it? [02:33] Vustom, yes [02:34] escott: so what should I do now ? [02:34] becom33, to get desktop effects you need to have a video driver that supports glx. usually people use the jockey-gtk to install proprietary drivers [02:34] escott: http://paste.ubuntu.com/720308/ [02:35] _klk_: undefined reference basically means you have the header to a function you're trying to use, but not the source for it (or the library that contains it). So it should be there, but it doesn't actually exist. If you are using something like math.h, then when you compile you need the -lm flag. [02:35] etc [02:35] escott: but in the older version it takes the effetcs without any drivers . :/ [02:35] escott: What version do you use? [02:35] <_klk_> Dougie187: I think so. here is my flags: -lcurl -lssl -lbz2 -ljson -lcrypto -lPocoFoundation -lPocoNet -lPocoUtil -lPocoCrypto -lboost_thread -lavformat -lavcodec -lavutil -lswscale -lPocoXML -lx264 -lopencv_core -lopencv_highgui -lboost_system -lboost_program_options [02:35] <_klk_> (sorry for long paste) [02:35] _klk_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [02:36] rypervenche, version of what [02:36] <_klk_> Dougie187: and i've manually verified that all those libraries actually exist in the system [02:36] _klk_: and that doesn't help me any as I don't know what library your functions should be in or anything. [02:37] I have a readon m7 video card in my thinkpad.. how do I activate that driver for effects? Nothing is listed in Hardware drivers. [02:37] escott: Ubuntu, or if you don't use it what distro do you use? [02:37] or better yet.. how do you shrink the size of the side launcher bar? [02:37] becom33, proprietary drivers sometimes get fouled up during upgrades. before i stopped using them i always had to fix them with every new release version [02:37] rypervenche, 11.10 [02:37] hi can anyone help a linx newb? [02:38] !help | iamfennec [02:38] iamfennec: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [02:38] <_klk_> Dougie187: sorry. what can i show you to make it easier? [02:38] So whatcha need help with iamfennec? [02:38] _klk_: what function is undefined? [02:39] so escott so how can deal with this jaunty thing ? [02:39] <_klk_> Dougie187: _all_ of them. every single function call to an external library is flagged with the "undefined reference to …" error. i can post the make output if you want to see [02:40] becom33, jaunty is eol. so you have to upgrade if you want support [02:40] _klk_: no. the makefile or the compile string would be more useful. [02:40] escott: at the moment it only shows me 9.10 version [02:40] so if I upgrade to 9.10 again I have upgrade to 11.10 :/ [02:41] 怎样把错误重定向到管道 [02:41] i'm runing lubuntu 10.04 and my update manger is giving me an error that theres not enough free space on my hdd and to empty trash and get rid of temp packages from former installs useing sudo app get clean [02:41] !cn | cuigaosheng [02:41] cuigaosheng: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [02:42] _klk_: i'll brb. If you pastebin the Makefile or something pm it to me [02:42] iamfennec, then you should consider doing that, unless you know you have more space than it claims. [02:42] btw is there any method I can put this upgrade and go out see the upgrade level from a remote computer ? [02:42] how do i do that? i don't know what its asking me to do [02:42] iamfennec: you might also have quite a number of old kernels still installed.. [02:43] yeah thats what i'm thinking, how do i take care of that ? [02:43] i thought ubuntu managed all that on its own [02:43] iamfennec, (a) its asking you to run sudo apt-get clean, so do that. (b) use the disk usage analyzer to see where you disk space is being used, and you can ask us if something is bigger than it should be [02:44] iamfennec: open synaptic and search for "linux" you'll get a list of stuff. look for the old kernels and mark them for uninstall. [02:44] Can someone help me? I type; 'sudo apt-get install git-core' then; 'cd git clone https://github.com/rcmorano/gnome-shell-gnome2-notifications.git' and then; 'sudo cp -r gnome-shell-gnome2-notifications/gnome-shell-gnome2-notifications@emergya.com /usr/share/gnome-shell/extensions/' but for some reason when using the last terminal line I get this message; 'No such file or directory' [02:44] iamfennec, apt will keep older files around that might be useful, like old kernels and old .debs and old config files for programs that have been removed, etc [02:44] Vustom, not cd git clone thats all wrong [02:45] Vustom, git clone, then cd [02:45] So what would it be? I'm confused, I'm just getting this from; http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/things-to-tweak-after-installing-ubuntu.html [02:45] <_klk_> Dougie187: sure, i'll post the failing compile string. [02:45] <_klk_> here it is: http://pastebin.com/xcrfJEuS [02:46] ok.. I can't ctrl+alt+2 or 3 or 4 etc.. to make a window go half screen, quarter etc.. why not? no effects activated? [02:46] What is the easiest way to install windows 7 AFTER ubuntu is installed so I can dual boot? [02:46] iamfennec, searching for linux-image will probably be a lot easier then just "linux" [02:46] marksman: wipe the drive .. install 7.. reinstall ubuntu.. [02:46] Vustom, cant say exactly, because we didnt write these directions, but git clone downloads the program, cd would change your working directory in some way, and the cp moves the files to a globally available place (VERY BAD THING TO DO) [02:46] i'm in a shell in recovery mode, if i try to launch visudo it'll returns that it is a read-only file and then i cannot edit it [02:47] marksman: windows doesn't play well being installed afterwards. [02:47] Why is it bad? :( [02:47] obert-, you are root, no need to sudo. type "whoami" [02:47] well i have kept up on deleating the old installs for the os select page my computer starts up too [02:47] i think i have to adduser user admin in order to fix an issue with the os [02:47] Ober, you may need to mount you file system as read/write [02:48] how please [02:48] i've taken out 3 kernals per version but is there more ? [02:48] !grub | marksman [02:48] marksman: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [02:48] well how do i use the sudo app get clean [02:49] iamfennec, "sudo apt-get clean" [02:49] in the terminal ? [02:49] iamfennec, yes [02:49] iamfennec, aurtoclean? [02:49] how to mount my file system as read/write, please? :P [02:49] autoclean? [02:50] How do I move icons from the message tray (bottom tray) to the top bar in GNOME 3? [02:51] obert-, if you are in a single user mode you are usually there for a reason (unless you intentionally selected it from the boot options). you need to determine why you are mounted ro. fsck the main partition [02:51] ok one think at a time here, what should i do first ? [02:51] iamfennec, its autoclean that you want, but you keep messing up the typing of the command its "apt-get" not "app get" [02:52] How do I shrink the size of the left launcher bar? [02:52] iamfennec, to be honest it doesnt matter which one you use, they both free up space but with clean you will have to redownload stuff which is annoying === babble_ is now known as babble [02:52] ok so what command do i type into terminal? [02:53] iamfennec, "sudo apt-get clean" or "sudo apt-get autoclean" your choice [02:53] uhm how to find the name of the main partition (gasp) [02:53] obert-, mount [02:53] obert-: sudo fdisk -l or mount [02:53] obert-, it will say /dev/sdX# mounted on / ro [02:54] Hey, so recently I screwed up an had to delete my ubuntu partiton but I had a backup. I restored that backup onto a clean ext4 partition but I cant boot up to it. I went into gparted and tried setting the flag to "boot" but it did nothing. How should I fix this? [02:54] ok did the sudo apt-get clean and it asked for a password which i entered then went back to the root promt [02:54] obert-, and you need to run fsck /dev/sdX# [02:54] iamfennec, silence is success [02:54] ok [02:55] Config'ing pure-ftpd for anon downloads only. File list and downloading works fine. Can't get .message, .banner, or -F /usr/share/fortune/zippy to work. Thoughts? [02:55] is there a way to look at how full a partion is like in windows? [02:55] escott: mount what [02:55] iamfennec, if you have a gui there is a disk-usage-utility [02:55] obert-, just "mount" [02:55] Anyone got an idea of how I fix my problem? [02:55] iamfennec, just hit the windows key and type "disk usage" [02:56] ertyuiop99: when in doubt.. throw a hand grenade [02:56] iamfennec, if all you want is the grand total (and not subdirectories) you can do df -h [02:56] hello, is there a dedicated channel for ubuntu 64-bit? I can't run 32-bit apps anymore; multiarch doesn't make any sense [02:56] ok, so i'm seeing a ~/.gnome2 directory that seems to be affecting some software settings of mine...how can i deal with this? [02:56] escott: thanks:) /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 ? [02:56] Why thank you for the advice, izinucs, though I "doubt [02:57] ertyuiop99, what do you mean you cant boot up into it. what happens when you try [02:57] ~/.gnome2 containing a bunch of sw settings dirs [02:57] windows key did nothing [02:57] xjjk: did you install ia32libs? [02:57] obert-, sda1 [02:57] "" it will work, so I must throw one [02:57] izinucs: yes [02:57] izinucs: Ubuntu 11.10 changed a *lot* [02:57] all my 32-apps are broken; I get an error from bash "not found" [02:57] escott: Just gets into this grub thing saying I can press tab to see all comands [02:57] xjjk: yea.. I'm discovering that.. just installed it on an old thinkpad.. test bed.. [02:57] iamfennec, what version of ubuntu are you running [02:57] i see a disk utility but no usage utility [02:57] escott: clean is the answer [02:58] 10.04 [02:58] izinucs: and there's NO user-centric documentation on multiarch whatsoever [02:58] #ubuntu -cn [02:58] obert-, you can try mount -o remount,rw / [02:58] escott: I screwed up, partitioned and reformated, restored, but can't boot into it [02:58] xjjk: yep.. you might also try in ##linux [02:58] obert-, im worried about an !xy here. why are you in a recovery console? [02:58] ertyuiop99, have you restored your bootloader? [02:58] Hey guys, I have created a seperate partion on my macbook pro and when booting from the ubuntu cd I am getting the following error: (initramfs) Unable to find a medium containing a live file system [02:58] !grub | ertyuiop99 [02:58] ertyuiop99: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [02:59] anyone else have the same probleM/ [02:59] ? [02:59] escott: i made: fdisk -l then fsck /dev/sda1 [02:59] Thanks escott , I may not need to throw a grenade [02:59] escott: i got issues with my own user: i cannot run sudo [02:59] so i'm trying to edit /etc/sudoers to add my own user to admin group [03:00] obert-, you screwed up trying to add yourself to a group... so common [03:00] anyone know how to get .docx files to open up in wine installed office 2007 by default in Ubuntu11.10. Oneiric is trying to use package manager to open it even though it has a libre office icon lol [03:00] How do I edit /etc/grub.d/10_linux? [03:00] sigh:( for the second time using chown, escott :( [03:00] so sad [03:00] obert-, in that case remount,rw and then run the command correctly [03:00] escott: then if i try to run visudo it'll says that /etc/sudoers is in read-only mode [03:01] ivanBliminse: .docx opens just fine in libreoffice.. why go the wine route? [03:01] obert-, you shouldnt be messing with sudoers [03:01] escott: read-only file system, sorry [03:01] obert-, if you ran usermod -G without -a thats why you cant sudo [03:01] escott: what should i do? [03:01] escott, I'll come back if it doesn't work, :D [03:01] is it safe to trash the contence of my tmp folder ? [03:01] izinucs, I'm a college student and although docx open up fine in libre office, (aside from the packager manager issue I mentioned), when you save it using libre in .docx format it screws up a bunch of stuff. IE, removes page numbers [03:01] obert-, what happened when you tried to remount,rw /? [03:02] izinucs, and I have to write papers in win office... [03:02] escott: do i have to paste that exactly code without ? [03:02] obert-, no "mount -o remount,rw / [03:02] ivanBliminse: weird.. the #winehq channel might have answers. [03:02] izinucs, thanks man! [03:02] escott : Also, I messed up by trying to make the /home folder a different partition so I could install a ton of crap without space worry. is this a good tut? http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome [03:03] escott: did i told you that i'm in a vmware vm? [03:03] ivanBliminse, its going to be weird because of the way wine maps the fs into a c:\ d:\ drive. you might just want to start office and open them that way [03:04] escott: it'll list some messages, no idea [03:04] escott, is it a good tut? [03:04] ertyuiop99, tldr; but i've seen people mention it before so i guess its ok. can't really say myself [03:04] obert-, what were the messages, and the vmware bit shouldnt matter [03:04] okay [03:05] escott, is there a way in 11.10 to tell ubuntu what file extensions open with what programs. [03:05] escott: Note that one does not really mount a device... [03:05] ivanBliminse, usually you right click on the file in nautilus and say open with, and then save that preference [03:05] How do I shrink the size of the left launcher bar? [03:05] escott, how do you save that preference [03:06] obert-, you aren't mounting a device, you are remounting a partition with different options [03:06] Is there a way to determine which package would provide a file? I'm trying to track down which package the courier.schema ldap schema is in. [03:06] escott: that's the first line of the messages [03:06] ivanBliminse, thats something that has changed in gnome3 so i dont know where it is anymore [03:06] !infot apt-file | quentusrex [03:07] escott: i did only mount -o remount,rw / [03:07] !info apt-file | quentusrex [03:07] quentusrex: apt-file (source: apt-file): search for files within Debian packages (command-line interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.0ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 24 kB, installed size 188 kB [03:07] escott, it's weird because there is no wine 1.3 application... the stuff you install with wine shows up as a regular app..... [03:08] hi all [03:08] I just got a laptop that has a radeon hd6320 graphaics card. i loaded ubuntu but the resolution is fairly poor. i am downloading the ati 11.9 proprietary driver, but I'm not certain that it's what I'm supposed to do. Could I just "aptitude install fglrx" instead? Has anybody done this before? [03:08] escott: !! [03:09] does anyone know how to set up a preferece for applications based on file extension or what not in ubuntu 11.10?? [03:09] obert-, after you say "mount -o remount,rw /" it says "Note that one does not really mount a device..."? [03:09] anyone want to help me with 10.04 hdmi audio malfunction fun? [03:09] Why Ubuntu started using Unity? [03:09] GNOME2 ftw [03:10] 。。 [03:10] escott: it is a long message, i cannot scroll up in the recovery window so i dunno what kind of stuff is, do you need a screenshot? (yes, i launched only mount -o ) [03:10] 有活人么 [03:11] share, because they didn't like gnome shell [03:11] i'm in panic atm [03:11] obert-, messages there are errors, so yes we need to see them [03:11] !cn | jugg [03:11] jugg: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [03:11] !paste | obert- [03:11] obert-: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:11] hello [03:11] jugg: hi [03:11] How do I shrink the size of the left launcher bar? [03:12] jussi: #ubuntu-cn [03:12] izinucs, try the tweak tool, maybe it can help [03:12] izinucs, you want to shrink the size like the width or the apps? [03:12] escott: don't know that tool [03:12] izinucs, unity plugin in the compiz config manager [03:12] ivanBliminse: width, icon size etc. [03:12] izinucs, ccsm... its the unity plugin, under experimental tab.. works well [03:13] i created a user via the "User Accounts..." graphical tool, and it appeared in the lightdm login list; i then did 'usermod -u 500 klync' and the user no longer appears, and when logged in as that user, it shows my name as "[Invalid UTF-8]" ... i checked /etc/lightdm/users.conf and it's set to allow any uid >=500; what gives? [03:13] urlin2u: did that. reduced it to the minimum and nothing changed.. even after logging out and back in again. === Auriel_ is now known as Auriel [03:13] I'm sticking to 10.10 thanks to Unity [03:13] ivanBliminse: did that. [03:13] ... [03:13] izinucs, did it not take? [03:13] why 12.04 won't use GNOME [03:13] ivanBliminse: nope [03:13] ivanBliminse: didn't change anything. [03:13] klync, you completely broke that user by changing their uid after their files were laid down [03:14] izinucs, sometimes you have to log out and log back in.. but you can do a ALT+F2.. then type unity --replace [03:14] izinucs, only works in 3d I believe, although 11.10 it should work, try running compiz --replace in the terminal. [03:14] escott: nope, the user's home dir is owned by uid 500 [03:14] !notunity > share [03:14] escott: http://www.laquarra.it/media/mount-o.png [03:14] share, please see my private message [03:14] izinucs, you could try confity ver 1.0 has a deb that you can install [03:14] izinucs, when it comes back up it should be proper.. try the log in log out if that does work... I always do an extreame if things don't take.. like take the size all the way down.. just to make sure it changes.. then adjust [03:15] klync, is the username valid ascii with no utf-8 characters? [03:15] I have source, how can I make it a .deb ? [03:16] obert-, i need to see a screenshot of the command prior to your hitting enter. something is typed wrong [03:17] oh man [03:17] escott: i doubt i can show it: cannot scroll up [03:17] Unity is a fail [03:17] klync, only the stuff in $HOME will get ownership changed. also lightdm apparently ignores its config files so i wouldnt believe anything it says in /etc/lightdm [03:17] Hi guys, I forgot the name called for that thing you need to have before you uninstall ubuntu/linux from a dual booted computer... Something "MRB"? MBR??? [03:17] ivanBliminse: threw errors when I tried that (unity -replace).. not supported.. I guess GLX isn't running.. I've got an ati raedon m7 card in this laptop [03:17] share, go back to gnome 3... [03:18] escott: sorry and thanks for now for your time. is it mount -o or mount -0 [03:18] blognewb, fixmbr in windows [03:18] Ubuntu w/ GNOME > Ubuntu w/ Unity = Win XP > Win Vista [03:18] izinucs, did you do (unity --replace) .. it has two dashes [03:18] -o. [03:18] wake up Ubuntu devs! [03:18] sgare, so? [03:18] shit i cant fucking believe i was banned for saying fuck.. in #wordpress channel :D. i mean what the fuck... [03:18] ivanBliminse: I'm on cli now running irssi in screen.. ctrl+alt+F7 gets me back to the gui without any decorations. [03:18] ...fuck... [03:18] wow [03:18] ivanBliminse: yea.. 2 dashes.. [03:18] later [03:18] leftist: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [03:19] !language | leftist [03:19] leftist: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [03:19] ok ok [03:19] izinucs, don't know... that works for me.. sorry! [03:19] mdsilva, escott: in a terminal as root where LANG="en_CA.utf-8", I did `groupmod -g 500 klync ;usermod -u 500 klync ; chown -R klync.klync /home/klync` .... now i can login just fine, but lightdm doesn't list my entry, and the unity widget that displays my name can't [03:19] 囧 [03:19] i mean the internet is owned by the USA :D [03:19] i am drunk [03:19] leftist troll elsewere [03:19] later [03:19] oerheks i was providing code long before you were hatched [03:20] later [03:20] hey, would anybody recommend an alternative to gnome-terminal? [03:20] escott fixmbr OH :'( hey awhile back i installed "Edubuntu" in my little sisters celeron desktop.. now after i uninstalled edubuntu to install lubuntu, the boot would just go crazy and the computer would just keep restarting, i didn't have fixmbr, what did i do wrong? :'( [03:20] * klync : leftist left [03:20] cntrational: urxvt [03:20] cntrational, xterm? [03:20] ok, i'm this >< close to designating oneirc as "too many changes at once" [03:20] How do I get my decorations back without glx running? unity --replace won't do it.. it throws errors. [03:20] does anyone speak chinnese and can help with support in #ubuntu-youth [03:20] * rhizmoe goes to find the jargon file representation of this state [03:20] philipballew: #ubuntu-cn [03:20] How can I reinstall plymouth in 11.10? For some reason I just get a purple screen when Ubuntu is booting up :/ [03:20] klync, the error msg you mentioned seems to imply the entire problem is that it is a utf-8 username [03:20] no gedit-2? insane. [03:20] lane: xterm is a tad too minimalist [03:21] klync, so lightdm's config files are only there to confuse people when they cant find the non-existent documentation. the actual config is controlled by /usr/lib/accountsservice/accounts-daemon [03:21] heh... i don't know then. [03:21] i like xterm. [03:21] !cn | philipballew [03:21] philipballew: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [03:21] mdsilva: i was thinking the problem is that it's *not* utf-8, but maybe .... [03:21] escott: oh, that's interesting ... will follow, thx [03:21] somsip: urxvt, huh, I'll look into it [03:21] How do I restart the gui from a tty? [03:21] cntrational: it's reasonably popular. Worth checking out I think [03:22] izinucs: sudo gdm restart [03:22] klyncm anything you typed into a utf-8 console is utf-8 [03:22] rhizmoe: I thought it changed with unity.. I'll give it a shot. [03:22] thank you pangolin xangua you guys rock!!! [03:22] izinucs, if you are using 11.10 it may be sudo service lightdm restart instead of service gdm restart [03:22] escott: my fault: i forgot / [03:22] perhaps [03:22] izinucs: might be lightdm [03:22] depending on your choice during install [03:22] Well guys, thanks for the help. Talk to you later [03:22] rhizmoe: since gdm didn't work I'll try that :) [03:22] how do i downrev to gedit2? [03:23] izinucs: yah, so apparently a package didn't install or upgrade probably [03:23] izinucs: though dpkg/apt didn't indicate as such [03:23] izinucs: reinstalling libc-i386 fixed things [03:23] xjjk: cool [03:23] Anybody help? awhile back i installed "Edubuntu" in my little sisters celeron desktop.. now after i uninstalled edubuntu to install lubuntu, the boot would just go crazy and the computer would just keep restarting, i didn't have fixmbr, what do I do now? :'( [03:23] I've a feeling I should reinstall [03:23] is there any chinese? [03:23] so I don't find any new surprises… [03:23] escott: refresh my url please [03:24] !cn | jugg [03:24] jugg: 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [03:24] hello [03:24] blognewb, are there any valuable irreplacable files on it? [03:24] blognewb, the restarting suggests that either something is wrong with your grub, or the kernel is panicing. and it has nothing to do with fixmbr, that was the answer to a different question you asked [03:24] hi xangua [03:24] !tw [03:24] 如欲獲得中文的協助，請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw [03:24] how compatible is ubuntu with installing apps not in the package-system? say if i install a newer version of thunar from a tarball? [03:24] blognewb, can you describe what it is doing right before restarting [03:24] !uk [03:24] Join us for a discussion using the Queen's English in #ubuntu-uk [03:24] brb.. reboot necessary get get the gui back. [03:24] !lubuntu | blognewb [03:24] blognewb: lubuntu is a project to create a derivative of Ubuntu using the LXDE desktop environment. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu . /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [03:25] 大家好 [03:25] f*ck me: http://askubuntu.com/questions/60600/how-do-i-replace-gedit-3-06-with-gedit-2-30-4 [03:25] !sweat | rhizmoe [03:25] !swear | rhizmoe [03:25] yeah, well. [03:25] !language | rhizmoe [03:25] dammit [03:25] rhizmoe: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [03:25] obert-, good its remounted. that other line is just dmesg since you are on tty1 [03:25] xD [03:25] !xubuntu [03:25] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [03:25] It's !language | rhizmoe [03:25] mdsilva irreplaceable files in the computer? === shel is now known as shelaex [03:25] mdsilva if so no [03:25] Ubuntu is going in the wrong direction with Unity [03:25] obert-, now you can run usermod -a -G admin username [03:25] it's losing users [03:26] share: do you have a support question¿ [03:26] It's a good idea to do this: /msg ubottu !whateverCommandToLearnAbout [03:26] obert-, you should also verify groups username and make sure it has the groups you expect [03:26] escott ok ill check it again i forgot exactly [03:26] xangua: no, only critics [03:26] where can I talk about UBuntu [03:26] share: #Ubuntu-offtopic [03:26] #ubuntu-offtopic [03:26] blognewb, if there are no files worth keeping, and if you can find any other solution, you might possibly be able to erase the hardrive and do a clean install [03:26] HAHA! I beat the pangolin! [03:27] Ibis: they only talk about cookies and stuff [03:27] wow... I have some questions about ubuntu... though I think my interests are more geared towards... well i don't know [03:27] how compatible is ubuntu with installing apps not in the package-system? say if i install a newer version of thunar from a tarball? [03:27] anyone who can talk support with me?... this room is a mess [03:27] !ask | JiKeidan [03:27] JiKeidan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [03:27] share: Well yea.. xD But at least you won't get bashed for it downing that in here. [03:27] blawiz, dont do that [03:27] JiKeidan, what's your trouble? [03:27] gaga [03:28] blawiz, if you absolutely have to do something like that, uninstall it first, and then install it to /opt or /usr/local manually [03:28] well i'm working with an ubuntu gateway in my network.. but i have it more specifically for the kernel's built-in iptables and ip route [03:28] escott: what is this? which commands i've to launch, and many thanks. obert-, you should also verify groups username and make sure it has the groups you expect [03:28] So, I've heard Lady Gaga prefers ubuntu. Has she upgraded to 11.10 yet? [03:29] !ot | mdsilva [03:29] mdsilva: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [03:29] JiKeidan, ok, what seems to be the problem? [03:29] obert-, "groups username" replace username with the broken user. if it doesnt say admin that user cant sudo. then "usermod -a -G admin username" to add that user to admin group [03:29] escott, do you know how long the delay is generally from a new version to be on the web, and it getting in the ubuntu package sys? [03:29] omg, at this point the problem is this room... mdsilva... can i pm you? [03:30] no [03:30] escott: purr: user : user www-data admin [03:30] blawiz, usually keyed to releases unless there is a security issue, and the releases are generally debian unstable + a few months of stabilizing [03:30] ok... iptables... i've read the man pages, i need some clarification on some specifics... [03:30] first off, conntrack... [03:30] you'd do better letting everyone hear the question, then you'll get more answers [03:31] what is it and how does it work with the packet types to be filtered? [03:31] obert-, and "user" cannot sudo? [03:31] escott: do i have to reboot now? [03:32] how can i hide other users in taskbar ? [03:32] JiKeidan, if you have two ethernet ports on your gateway, it can decide which ones to let pass and which ones to filter out [03:32] JiKeidan, i believe conntrack is frequently used in NATs to enable dns_masq. the packet types are just the packet types. [03:32] escott, ok ok :) === chris__0076 is now known as chris_0076 [03:32] Has the nautilus-open-terminal crashing nautilus problem been solved? [03:32] escott: i think i have to reboot to test sudo myuser ? [03:33] obert-, if you made changes then sure try to reboot [03:33] JiKeidan, you specify rules for how it should filter, and you can make those rules work by packet type if you wish [03:33] escott: dunno. i'm just following your commands [03:33] yes i understand that mdsilva... however, I am unsure specifying -m conntrack plays a role in packet filtration [03:33] unsure how* specifying [03:33] escott: i'm in panic :P so i got fear to do anything [03:34] obert-, well lets not say panic. it makes me thing the kernel is panicing which is different (and not happening here) [03:35] obert-, the fastest thing is probably to just reboot like normal and see if you can sudo then === sysadamin|away is now known as sysadamin [03:35] how can i hide users in taskbar? [03:36] escott: !!!!!!!! fixed!!! [03:36] obert-, if you are having issues with sudo (i haven't been following) - did you happen to change your computer name by chance? [03:36] JiKeidan, conntrack starts a visual display of connections in real-time [03:36] i see no visual when used through iptables [03:36] are you saying conntrack is it's own module? [03:37] http://www.netfilter.org/projects/conntrack-tools/index.html [03:37] i'm actually on that page now [03:37] i guess i'll download it and read the man pages on it [03:37] http://conntrack-tools.netfilter.org/ [03:38] JiKeidan, conntrack is a rather general set of tools to enable connection tracking which allows more complex rules than "just allow port 80 through" [03:38] so i need to experiment around with conntrack and then work out how it applies to the iptables later [03:38] yes, it's a module to help make it easier to admin the connections as they are happening [03:38] connection tracking, escott? [03:39] sudo routes doesn't do this? === sysadamin|away is now known as sysadamin [03:39] you get to see who is connecting and to where [03:39] or netstat -A ? [03:39] zykotick9: if i rebuilt the complete story correctly, i'd made something like chown www-data myuser in order to destroy it: i wasnt able to use sudo with that user. now thanks to escott we made: launched my VM (vmWare) with Ubuntu 11, clicked very fast in the VM window, pressed CANC to enter Recovery Mode, launched a shell session as root, launched: mount -o remount,rw / and then usermod [03:39] -a -G admin username and reboot. it is fixed now. [03:40] conntrack let's you pick individual connections to block, with a finer control [03:40] escott: so many thanks :) you saved my VM [03:40] but you couldn't do that with iptables -s XXX.XXX.xXX.XXX -j DROP? [03:40] obert-, the chown command wouldn't have messed up your ability to sudo [03:40] if all of that is the case, then why include it in with the iptables build? [03:41] How to make grub be in 1680x1050 resolution? [03:41] obert-, usually what people do when they break their ability to sudo is they use usermod to add themselves to a group but don't specify -a (append) and all the existing groups are wiped out [03:41] escott, su [03:41] http://goo.gl/tuSzO [03:41] escott: i'm sure i never used usermod, just chown [03:41] obert-, if you did that your current user is unable to print, mount devices, share samba folders etc [03:41] JiKeidan, because it depends on iptables and makes iptables more controllable [03:42] escott: i was trying to add /var/www/ writeable by my own user, that's it [03:42] How can I keep the GNOME 3 dock on the desktop so I don't have to keep clicking Activities? [03:43] JiKeidan, thats not very fine grained control. you have to know the ip before hand. think "drop connections from ips that make more than X connections a minute for Y minutes" [03:43] escott: i got username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. [03:43] ok... so how would i experiment with iptables module conntrack? [03:43] escott: when i tried to do sudo, now it has launch apt-get update correctly [03:43] i see... [03:43] obert-, chown cannot cause this error. thats all im saying [03:43] and escott... how might u add to a chain that function u just described?... drop ip after x connections via conntrack? [03:43] escott: i got it, but i really didnt made anything else strange [03:43] Vustom: you don't have to click, just drag que mouse to the top left corner [03:44] JiKeidan, no idea, never used it. [03:44] well here's what i'm doing in the end... [03:44] i have an ubuntu gateway [03:44] I don't like doing that either, would prefer just to keep the dock on the desktop, is that possible? [03:44] it is used because of the nice iptables build [03:44] i need to filter packets as they come into my server computer [03:44] Vustom: install a dock then [03:44] obert-: There is bash_history in your home to see what happened, or /var/log/auth.log [03:44] however, i need each packet to maintain it's source IP as it passes through the gateway [03:45] thus far, any sort of packet forwarding i have achieved through the gateway computer to the server computer changes the source IP address to the gateway subnet before it gets to the server.... [03:45] JiKeidan, it dns_masquerade for a NAT [03:45] thus every connection that is made to the server is made through the ip address 192.168.0.2... instead of the client's [03:46] JiKeidan, is your gateway setup for nat? [03:46] how is dns_masquerade for the nat table different than just -j MASQUERADE? [03:46] it is [03:46] through masquerading... [03:46] JiKeidan, do you understand how dns_masquerade works? [03:46] I don't think I do... i have read through the ip routes and iptables man a few times each, but i have still got so many holes in my logic about it all [03:47] JiKeidan, its a longer explanation so pm me and i can take you through it [03:47] gladly [03:48] Question... bit random... [03:48] can anyone help me with a xbox360 wireless controller? I do have the usb wireless adapter. [03:49] TheExplorer, yes? [03:49] If someone were so crazy enough, is there such a program that will manually index the internet, something the like what "a google" does...? [03:49] you mean you want to run your own search engine? [03:49] TheExplorer, you know how huge Google's server farms are, right, to do what they do? [03:50] I mean i want a search engine that is not dependent on.... someone elses server. [03:50] Yes, Yes, i know how big googles servers are. as i said originally "if someone were so crazy" [03:50] does it exist? [03:51] there have been programs to do that, they haven't usually been free though. "northern light" has had search engine software for sale [03:51] its strange to think few others have thought of this [03:51] TheExplorer: Writing such software is fairly trivial. The reason most people don't use that they really don't have any utility without the enormous hardware resources of Google. [03:52] Google is dependent on laws. [03:52] qin: escott: http://pastebin.com/fZ3uADEH [03:52] and Marketing [03:52] Certain things will be "censored" [03:53] TheExplorer, that said, you basically need a huge amount of index database before a search engine is useful [03:53] TheExplorer: Without enormous resources, those things won't even be indexed. [03:53] All i want to index is text. [03:53] TheExplorer: Text is what we're talking about here. [03:53] hm. [03:53] TheExplorer: I think you severely underestimate how large the Internet actually is. :-) [03:54] No, trust me. im not a fool. But i want a way to run searches based on patterns i set. For very specific ranges. [03:54] TheExplorer, if you just want a mini search engoine to cover your over web site, that's doable, but a net-wide engine requires great resources [03:54] TheExplorer: Trust me, you do underestimate the size of the internet. [03:55] For example: Rule = Keyword found -> note associations in dictionary to keyword -> recycle and specialize to site where (keyword) found then do associations of envorionment type. [03:55] http://northernlight.com/ [03:56] Ok how about a program that will search a website [03:57] not a google, a program. [03:57] does that exist? [03:57] your own? or someone elses? [03:57] well someone elses. Maybe its a forum without a search bar. Or a list of some kind... for whatever reason. [03:58] there are spider-programs available, to get you the content [03:58] please can i get help on burning knoppix iso in windows 7 i have downloaded the iso image is it supported here [03:59] Maybe its a thousand hyperlink tree... and someones looking for a bootable linux kernel for an Px27a [03:59] stephni: use a tool like imgburn. or ithers in windows. [03:59] "Spider Program" is that what its called? [03:59] byrn [03:59] the "genre" of tools if you will [03:59] ok [03:59] !burn [03:59] CD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto [04:00] I'm trying to use thunderbird but am constantly given a "failed to create drawable" [04:00] any suggestions on why this happens? [04:00] obert-, sounds like you need to usermod -a -G nopasswdlogin username [04:00] TheExplorer, http://webcrawler.sourceforge.net/ [04:01] escott: it was the first suspected lines i'd found in my history: there's a reboot and then an error (if i'm correct) [04:02] obert-, it really really really sounds like you usermod -G without -a [04:02] TheExplorer, there are other free sourceforge webcrawler projects out there [04:02] Hi how do I make root own an external drive? [04:02] Matt68965, what kind of fs is on that drive [04:02] is this normal linux-headers-2.6.32-33{u} linux-headers-2.6.32-33-server{u} [04:02] whats up with {u} ? [04:03] Matt68965 - ext3 [04:03] goddard, at a guess, Ubuntu-specific tweaks to that particular kernel? Not actually sure, though. [04:03] Matt68965, then chown like any normal fs [04:04] Matt68965 - am reading up on that now then [04:04] hi, I'm getting busybox when trying to boot Ubuntu 11.10 installer from usb (installed with unetbootin). My notebook is a dell inspiron mini 1018. [04:04] any ideas of what could be the issue' [04:04] Thankyou for the information. [04:04] http://sourceforge.net/projects/archive-crawler/ [04:05] !ics > JiKeidan [04:05] JiKeidan, please see my private message [04:06] One more question: I just discovered raid. And when reading on it, i discovered that "Raid0" will operate at 2x Data compasity of the smaller drive.... [04:06] TheExplorer, and twice the risk of losing everything === share is now known as sharing_is_carin [04:07] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_RAID_levels === sharing_is_carin is now known as share [04:07] anyone know why SAMBA GUi doesn't come up in ubuntu 11.10...a rgh [04:07] Assuming that one drive is 2x the size of its sister, Is there a format that allows a pattern of "striping" based on calibration of write speeds in fractional "slicing" (yes thankyou escott, I use it only as execution, not backup. [04:08] TheExplorer, if disks are different size use LVM and JBOD [04:09] TheExplorer, i don't know if possible to stripe different sizes, but I doubt it. that would make configuration that much harder, and it much more likely to lose everything [04:09] ivanBliminse: what samba gui do you mean [04:10] I am asking, is it not simple enough to dedicate 2 write oppurtunities to one drive and 1 to the other, if the speeds were so? [04:12] TheExplorer, you could try to have two partitions on one disk and one on the slow disk and raid0 across three partitions, but you would be jumping from partition to partition on the first disks and the seeks would kill you [04:13] escott, I did actually think of that on paper... And it would work perfectly if i knew a way to interlace the partitions in alternating write blocks. [04:13] anyone got samba working in 11.10... [04:13] The sequency would have to be drive 1-a drive 2/1-b 2/2-c > back to drive 1 [04:14] TheExplorer, the reason this kind of stuff is not supported is that when the day comes you get hit by a bus, and the configuration on the disks is lost nobody will ever figure out how you set things up. so no sane sysadmin does this for a production system, and therefore nobody codes the options in to enable this on systems like yours === richard is now known as Guest3696 [04:15] Well that wasnt nice. [04:15] TheExplorer: I think you can achieve this kind of flexibility by doing striping on top of LMV (stripe across PVs or physical volumes). [04:16] TheExplorer, its not meant to be mean. just telling you i doubt you will find and easy way to do this [04:16] TheExplorer: that was LVM and not LMV [04:16] understood. [04:16] But is there such thing as interlaced partitions? [04:16] hello guys [04:17] like umm. an ntfs, and ext... alternating tracks on a drive. [04:17] anyone know how to check key codes from the terminal? [04:17] I'm shocked that something as simple as samba does not work.. installs perfectly.. I go to run it, it asks for a password.. then nothing [04:17] TheExplorer, you could set LVMs block size to be small, but you can't guarantee the interlacing [04:18] specifically: how do i map the stamina/speed switch in a vaio to execute some script I have [04:18] I'm trying to install Ubuntu 11.10 alongside Windows. I'm at the page where I select the partition and it wants me to allocate drive space between files and ubuntu. Why is it doing this? Can I not just have 1 partition aside from swap? [04:18] Is something wrong with minitube? [04:18] TheExplorer: that is extremely unlikely because it tightly links knowledge of the filesystem (or which filesystem / partition) to the lower level block-level striping [04:18] KamikazeAndy, you can have just a / partition if thats all you want [04:19] escott, if i set the block small, theres still the question of how much data, per physical space exists on a drive that spins at X speed. If the system is willing to stripe the data to annother drive, then you have 3x which is 1/3 each. if you [04:19] escott, it isn't allowing me that option. [04:20] ivanBliminse: you should clarify to the channel exactly what you are doing. [04:20] oh..., nvm... ill stop being a bother. [04:20] thanks for the assist [04:21] TheExplorer, you can try stuff like this, the thing is it exponentially increases the number of config options, and thats generally considered "bad" on a production system, so its not going to be easy, and it may not work the way you want, because nobody has tested it [04:21] Anyone else having trouble with Minitube????? [04:21] How to re-arrange the placement of things on the GNOME 3 toolbar? [04:21] !paste | KamikazeAndy paste a screenshot please [04:21] KamikazeAndy paste a screenshot please: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [04:21] dr_willis, I am trying to install samba and access a windows 7 workgroup .. i type sudo apt-get install samba samba-common system-config-samba... i type symba in unity, the app icon comes up, i click it , it asks for password, dialog goes away, nothing else happens. [04:21] Like the sound icon, network icon etc [04:21] Vustom, you cant [04:22] What about things that I've installed? [04:22] Vustom, gnome-shell? [04:22] Vustom, the shell is not meant to be highly customizable [04:22] i downloaded jre via oracle's website. anyone know how to start installation after i extracted the files? [04:23] it looks stupid how I have it now.. [04:23] Vustom, if you want to install shell extensions you can, but thats the main way to customize [04:23] I have a ram meter and it's in the middle of all the right icons [04:23] ram/cpu* [04:23] hola [04:23] hey got a question, my youtube videos and gamespot videos play just fine but when I go to play ones from IGN they dont, I got the adobe flash plugin and the restricted codec one anything else I could do? [04:24] hi [04:24] Vustom, congratulations, you've just discovered one of the greatest weaknesses of Unity, that if you dislike the defaults, you're out of luck... [04:24] I'm using GNOME 3 though D: [04:24] there should be a way to get rid of unity [04:24] That's not Unity.. is it [04:24] ? [04:25] madpiolot, I think he is using gnome 3 [04:25] Who here thinks a Ubuntu Unity File manager would be a good idea? (Done in such a revolutionary way, like how google chrome did. Then we can have something like Opera's speed dial or something like that). [04:25] Unity is basically a big theme on top of ghome 3 [04:25] ivanBliminse: the nautilus filemanager does nit need samba package installed to access windows machines. and i ve no idea what that samba binary is to be doing. since samba is a service [04:25] Vustom, both unity and gnome3 follow the same basic principles. customization is bad, user experience should be consistent [04:25] escott, come now. dont be so negative. I dont do most of what i tinker with, to be "more productive" I do it to fail, and learn why its not! [04:25] aaand because i can. [04:25] I hope 12.04 is epic :c [04:25] ivanBliminse: umity us a shell on top if gnome3 [04:25] thats why my droid milestone runs ubuntu. [04:25] Then do away with the Dash icon in launcher tray. [04:25] 2 questions [04:26] dr_willis, I know [04:26] How can I make it so the GRUB is 1680x1050? [04:26] Vustom, /etc/default/grub [04:26] it keeps staying at 1600x1200 :@ [04:26] dude unity and all of linux is what makes linux great! [04:26] escott: imagebin.org/180984 [04:26] Vustom: check /etc/defaults/grub [04:26] people can customize the UI how they want or use unity or not. [04:27] I personally like unity and ubuntu compare to other distros [04:27] in ubuntu 11.10 how can I go back to classic view [04:27] GRUB_GFXMODE="1680x1050-24" [04:27] :/ [04:27] But it's not 1680x1050 though D: [04:27] in 11.04 there was an options item [04:27] KamikazeAndy, use the advanced partitioning tool [04:28] and there you could choose [04:28] !notunity | yu [04:28] yu: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic [04:28] Would this work? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="ro quiet splash vga=0x0369" [04:28] Escott: ok, I'll try it again. Last time it froze up on "configuring target system" [04:29] Vustom, vga= lines are deprecated [04:29] well just answered my own question its something with firefox chromium plays my ign videos just fine...lame [04:29] i always set my gryb for lowres rext only ;) [04:29] Vustom, and thats a line for the linux kernel, not the grub menu [04:29] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=8632103&postcount=8 [04:30] Can someone help me do this? [04:30] I'm somewhat new to this; and it confuses me :c [04:30] that-s a lot of things [04:31] The new Gnome confuses me too [04:31] I cant find anything [04:31] new here to Vustom [04:31] Hey folks, I'm in ubuntu 11.04 and looking to find a decent windows emulator that runs well on a slower machine [04:31] *too [04:31] So i went to KDE [04:31] ;) [04:31] TheExplorer, go ahead and try the lvm/raid config if you want. i think we [04:32] TheExplorer, 've told you everything we know about how you might do it [04:32] however i don't want something like, vmware or virtualbox that creates a whole thing, and the main program I want to run crashes in wine all the time [04:32] hehe im metro sexual when it comes to picking my OS I love UBUNTU because of the UI look and color scheme lol [04:32] "Try the vga= method, with whatever value you need" [04:32] How to install awn lucido in 11.10? Getting "unable to locate package". Tried ppa but no result. [04:32] What does he mean by that? [04:32] i've been looking a while now and haven't come across anything that really impressed me [04:32] galmo, there isn't much between wine and a VM [04:32] they have me with the halloween orange and black color [04:33] I like Ubuntu's default GUI. I run Ubuntu Server. [04:33] i'm just saying i don't want a whole virtual desktop because this computer is fairly old and slow and i have enough performance issues as it is [04:33] same here pnorman [04:33] galmo, what program are you wanting to run? [04:33] Vustom, they are modelines for the kernel, and as indicated they are deprecated (so they won't be supported in the future), you can probably find a listing of the modelines currently supported in the kernel documentation [04:33] pokerstars mainly [04:33] galmo I would us Lubuntu or Linux mint LXDE or Puppy Linux or DSL [04:33] escott if you know any links that would explain the way the "LVM" + "RAIDx" works, that would be most helpful [04:34] try Lubuntu first since its based off the Ubuntu distro [04:34] yeah i'm looking for something similar to wine that's light and doesn't require allocating ram and resources like a virtual machine does [04:34] Linux mint is nice cause it has all the plugins and codecs preinstalled [04:34] TheExplorer, look at the LVM documentation, and then look at the mdadm documentation. i'm not sure what else i can tell you about them [04:34] hey everyone - if I want to compile from source, can I use the same source to compile for 32bit and on 64bit? or does that depend on the source in question? [04:34] galmo, and that thing would be wine [04:35] playonlinux but that incorporates wine [04:35] What vga= would 1680x1050-24 be? [04:35] anything else you have to pay for it [04:35] galmo : wine has no alternative. [04:35] galmo, there are some commercial variants of wine, like crossover and playonlinux that you have to pay for but are tested with some more applications [04:35] right, i understand and have been using wine, it crashes constantly which is why I was hoping there was something else [04:36] galmo: virtualization with qemu or Virtualbox is possible but with old hardware wine is the solution . [04:36] brunodbo, depends, a well updated project these days should be able to compile for either without trouble [04:36] galmo: if wine is not working then no luck... YOu have to wait for your app supprot in wine [04:36] any of you guys used super gamer edition linux before ? [04:36] hmm... well it's something to look into anyways, and i'm checking out that lubuntu right now, yeah wine usually works great for what i need [04:36] its a live dual layered dvd [04:36] escott: cool, thanks [04:37] th3pun15h3r: I used linux games DVD [04:37] Galmo, what version of wine? I've had some things run in on particular version, but crash in others [04:37] How to install awn lucido in 11.10? Getting "unable to locate package". Tried ppa but no result. [04:37] nice gulzar [04:37] looks like lubuntu would require a whole reinstall, nuts to that, i'm running umm... 1.3.31 [04:37] Would changing set gfxmode=${GRUB_GFXMODE} to set gfxmode=1680x1050 or set gfxmode=1680x1050-24 work? [04:38] ya you could try xubuntu [04:38] galmo: go to wine HQ and see if any disktro support your app . Different distro have different (slight) performance with wine. [04:38] it just changes ubuntu to xfce ui [04:38] th3pun15h3r: Why you asked that? [04:39] xubuntu wouldn't require a whole reinstall then eh, i'm not looking to do that, i mean the machine runs fine with 11.04 and KDE it's just not good enough to be able to take 256 megs of ram away to allocate to a windows virtual machine [04:39] galmo: try Debian LXDE . IT takes only 112MB on my machine with gnome apps [04:40] galmo: with it you can easily run VB [04:40] the whole thing is I don't want to do a whole reinstall [04:40] i finally have this machine looking and acting *mostly* like I want it too [04:41] to [04:41] galmo : then install LXDE on ubuntu and use it.... though it takes around 190MB .. [04:41] probably a lot less than kde does i'm sure [04:41] galmo: ya very less [04:41] haha [04:41] galmo: try to use names to address a user === Laibeus_Lord is now known as Laibcoms [04:42] gulzar, yep no problem [04:42] galmo: it is very confusing with lots of talks here [04:42] galmo: :) [04:42] gulzar, yeah i was kind of noticing that, no problem [04:42] How to install awn lucido in 11.10? Getting "unable to locate package". Tried ppa but no result. [04:43] .wik [04:43] hello g33ks [04:44] happy new year to all............... [04:44] lol [04:44] uhh is the LXDE.org website down for anyone else [04:44] lol [04:44] i am problems with installing backtrack5 on ubuntu 11.10 [04:44] jakes : Happy Diwali ! [04:44] thanx yaar..........same 2 u [04:45] vv backtrack us a linux distro last i looked.. [04:45] galmo: yup [04:45] gueys help to install backtrack 5 on ubuntu === Kasjopaja23111 is now known as Kasjopaja [04:45] jakes: repos ? [04:45] bobweaver, wonderful, well at least it's not just me, thanks === Kasjopaja is now known as Guest17149 [04:46] galmo: I tryed to proxy and tor it nota [04:46] jakes: Isn't backtrack a distribution, not an applciation? [04:46] hi -- is anybody else experiencing a problem where dragging windows around gets slower over time? [04:47] bobweaver, well i'll have to find another way to go about installing it then [04:47] !lxde [04:47] I am sure that sudo apt-get install lxde-desktop might help [04:47] Hi , I am having real trouble changing the ownship of an external drive & contents. I've read the ubuntu FilePermissions page, done some stuff but it's still not working. Can someone help? [04:48] yeah i just figured that out, kinda makes sense [04:48] I want to use SCP to get a file... but I don't have a direct connection to the file host. Anybody know a one-liner to proxy scp through another box? (Me -> Proxy -> FileHost) [04:48] Matt68965: what fs uthe hd usings [04:48] ah nevermind, my problem is a known problem: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/764330 [04:48] ext3 [04:48] Launchpad bug 764330 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Move window annoying slow with compiz" [Undecided,Confirmed] [04:48] Matt68965: and you want to do what exactly? [04:48] anyone with a vid on how to install bt5 tools on ubuntu 11.10 [04:49] hi [04:49] hello [04:49] I want root to have read/write on it and no one else [04:49] vv go adk in bt channel or forums. i suggest. [04:49] anthony_t: ssh -f -l -N -L9999:filehost:22 proxy ; scp -p 9999 -l blah blah. Maybe. [04:49] jakes: echo # deb http://all.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing # deb http://64.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing # deb http://source.repository.backtrack-linux.org revolution main microverse non-free testing /etc/apt/sources.list [04:49] willis thanx [04:50] Matt68965: chown everything tobe owned by root [04:51] sudo chown -r /media/mountpoint root:root i think...... [04:51] well lxde is installed apparently, gonna give it a whirl, thanks fellas, wish me luck [04:51] have fun [04:51] and make sure files are not m0de 777 [04:52] verify with ls -l the permissions [04:52] How to install awn lucido in 11.10? Getting "unable to locate package". Tried ppa but no result. [04:53] gulzar: source ?? [04:53] !awn [04:53] dnag bot get you act togeather :>) [04:53] gulzar: what pavkage? [04:54] bobweaver: http://askubuntu.com/questions/42816/how-can-i-install-awn-trunk [04:54] dr_willis: it is awn but lucido style is available with ppa [04:54] in channel. [04:55] dr_willis: so have to install it like that. [04:55] Thelmaria: I think I love you. Thank you so much. [04:55] anthony_t: No problems :) [04:55] bobweaver: I am getting same problem as shown in that link [04:55] gulzar: https://launchpad.net/awn [04:56] you can svn with bzr ? I dont know [04:56] sure you can [04:57] bobweaver: svn with bzr...??? [04:57] gulzar: that is package you are talking about ? [04:57] gulzar: that is package ??? [04:57] i can find literally no reference to linux-headers-2.6.32-33-server{u} [04:57] what is the {u}? [04:58] bobweaver: its opening... net is little slow [04:58] cool [04:58] hello [04:59] is there a chat room that allows voice and chat / [04:59] bobweaver: still not opening... pfffff [04:59] so a normal question, something ive been looking for a while. If i install Ubuntu-desktop, then go for KDE (thinking i can just get in a diff session) But I get all the menus for Gnome(something) right next to KDE(something) [04:59] * gulzar grrrrrrrr [04:59] haha [04:59] going to bed. thanks all [05:00] couple: sometimes I see some things on usteam and once on jtv but far and few between [05:01] !classroom [05:01] The Ubuntu Classroom is a project which aims to tutor users about Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu through biweekly sessions in #ubuntu-classroom - For more information visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Classroom [05:01] bobweaver: No its not. The one i am talking abbout is trunk (series and milestone) with lucido [05:01] ok [05:01] off to google again [05:02] bobweaver: http://www.google.co.in/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=awn+trunk&pbx=1&oq=awn+trunk&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=428128l430476l0l430798l9l7l0l0l0l0l0l0ll0l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=8e1e2630060d24be&biw=1280&bih=906 [05:02] bobweaver: https://launchpad.net/~awn-testing/+archive/ppa [05:03] umm I just added repo [05:03] what do i have to install to get gnome without unity? [05:04] !puregnome [05:04] If you want to remove all !Kubuntu packages or !Xubuntu packages and have a default !Ubuntu system, follow the instructions here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureGnome [05:04] bobweaver: here are the screenshots http://www.webupd8.org/2010/06/awn-lucido-gets-its-own-ppa.html [05:04] gulzar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/720380/ [05:04] i_is_broke: want gnome3? or gnome2? [05:04] bobweaver, was that for me? [05:04] gulzar the newest. 11.0 [05:04] I'm unable to set Minimize animation in ccsm in ubuntu 11.04 ? [05:05] any idea why 11.10 says my battery doesn't exist? [05:05] oops 11.10 my bad typo [05:05] i_is_broke: then simply install gnome shell from softare center [05:05] thank you [05:05] can anyone help me with Unreal Tournament 2004 and with my mouse?? it keeps centering to the left hand side everytime i try to move it and i am unable to play.... [05:05] gulzar: add-apt-repository ppa:awn-testing/ppa && sudo apt-get update bobweaver: that much is done. But how to get the package now? That part is giving error [05:06] gulzar: try sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator-trunk avant-window-navigator-data-trunk python-awn-trunk awn-settings-trunk awn-applets-python-core-trunk python-awn-extras-trunk awn-applets-python-extras-trunk awn-applets-c-core-trunk awn-applets-c-extras-trunk [05:07] bobweaver: yes tried that code and the errors are there .... doing pastebin [05:07] can anyone help me to install matrix theme in ubuntu.... [05:07] thanks [05:07] bobweaver: http://paste.ubuntu.com/720382/ [05:07] jakes: lol 1st backtrack then matrix Oo [05:07] plz help bobweaver... [05:08] can anyone help me to set minimize animation in ccsm. I'm running ubuntu 11.04. [05:08] can anyone help me to install matrix theme in ubuntu.... [05:08] gulzar: looks like python error dang 5.12 [05:08] Equilibrium: what do you want? [05:08] i have ubuntu 10.04 [05:08] jakes: have you googled it ? [05:08] bobweaver: means? [05:09] mean that apt cant handel it [05:09] yes but i acnt find it [05:09] i think [05:09] bobweaver: so how to do it then? [05:09] jakes: what do you mean matix theme [05:09] bobweaver: any other way? [05:09] gulzar: have to find the source package [05:09] gulzar: i'm trying to set minimize animation in ccsm. But it is'n working. Open and close animations are working [05:09] plz tell me the link [05:09] I think [05:10] matrix is one type of just theme [05:10] Equilibrium: try to change the time setting for minimize. Which effect you want? [05:10] jakes: http://ubuntu-art.org/content/show.php/?content=134081 [05:10] lol [05:10] not at you jakes [05:10] at me [05:11] thanx [05:11] can anyone help me with Unreal Tournament 2004 and with my mouse?? it keeps centering to the left hand side everytime i try to move it and i am unable to play. [05:11] gulzar it is'n taking the effect at all. i click on new and then set all the settings and when i click on close. It is'n taking it. [05:11] i have recently install 11.10, I realised I need to downgrade openssl to 0.9, how would I do that? [05:12] jakes: others ? http://gnome-look.org/content/search.php [05:12] Equilibrium: try the on with geany (something similar) effect and see if it works? On which machine are you? [05:12] any idea why 11.10 says my battery doesn't exist? [05:12] whats thecommand to recievethe memo through irc [05:12] or any linux for that matter? [05:12] gulzar: ubuntu 11.04 === tnm is now known as kubanc [05:13] Equilibrium: with 11.04 no problem. Try to change the effect and its timing . Try different effects. And do one refresh or logout [05:14] Equilibrium: if still not working then there is some big issue. but it should not be there [05:16] hi [05:16] job [05:16] whats the command torecieve memo through irc [05:17] excuse me, I`m trying to install ubuntu 11.10, and this appears in the middle of the installation http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/89/screenshotat20111027051.png/ [05:17] gulzar: http://wiki.awn-project.org/InstallingFromSource [05:17] use bazzar [05:17] or bzr [05:17] sorry [05:17] hi [05:17] bobweaver: Thank You. === mike is now known as Guest46028 [05:17] whould you please some one help me? I installed network-manager-pptp in my labtop after it my network manager icon in upper right corner (next to time) has been removed then I can't connect to internet in that machine , how can I fix it again? [05:17] np good luck [05:18] bobweaver: it seems like you are in great demand today..... [05:18] gulzar: http://dev.collabshot.com/show/64c902/ [05:18] Equilibrium: looking at it... [05:18] iman: right click and add it [05:18] gulzar: After i select new and set all the settings it still remains blank. it is'n taking the effect at all. [05:19] Um_cara_qualquer, the error message says it's either the install media (cd/dvd) or your hard drive. have you tried another media? [05:19] Equilibrium: is there any preconfigured effect? [05:19] Equilibrium: usually there are [05:20] qrwteyrutiyoup, i didn`t... but I need to install in that media =/ [05:20] Equilibrium: OK so no preconfigured effect... ummm try #compiz you will find help there [05:21] Equilibrium: very strange [05:21] iman: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1483793 [05:21] gulzar: thanks for your help [05:21] Thelmaria: one more question, if you happen to know the answer: how do I get the PID of the "ssh -l" command that goes into the background? the usual variable $! isn't populated :( [05:22] Equilibrium: I was unable to help.... [05:22] * gulzar sad [05:22] anthony_t: ps aux | grep "ssh -l" doesn't show it? [05:22] gulzar: but you were kind enough to have a look at it. that was nice of you [05:23] Thelmaria: It does, but I want to automate it in the cleanest way possible. I can ps aux | grep | awk if i have to, but I'd rather just get the PID directly [05:23] Equilibrium: :) [05:23] can anyone help me with my mouse and unreal tournament 2004?? it keeps centering on the center left everytime i try to move it and does same thing while in game and not just in the menu.. how do i fix it? [05:23] * gulzar Happy [05:23] Can I get someone to PM me about a battery issue in Ubuntu 11.10 [05:23] anthony_t: You can avoid sending it to the background - that's one way which is easy. I have a script somewhere to kill the process once i've finished using it, but I can't rmember what host it's on, if you want me to look. [05:24] MeganLWoulffe: what does dmesg have to say [05:24] Equilibrium: try default irc for apps . like for compiz #compiz for qwn #awn and so on. There you can find expert help. [05:24] bobweaver: What specifically am I looking for, cause that's a crapload of info\ [05:25] anthony_t: But I'm not sure how to get the pid directly, sans ps | grep, sorry. [05:25] dmesg show all things that the kernel sees on boot so you are looking to see if it is there if there is any errors or not [05:26] that would be the 1st place that I look MeganLWoulffe [05:26] Thelmaria: no worries. Just wondered if you had anything on the top of your head. I'll let you know if I find an elegant solution. [05:26] MeganLWoulffe: try dmesg|less then hit /battery then enter [05:28] ok, so i hate the new gtk theme in oneiric. how do i get more or get the old ones? [05:28] is there a wiki page about it? [05:29] well LXDE is so far so good, got a lot to play around with before i decide if I really likes it or not [05:29] !nounity [05:29] Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic [05:29] bobweaver: ACPI: Deprecated procfs I/F for battery is loaded, please retry with CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER clear and ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT1] (battery absent) [05:29] bobweaver: thanks! [05:29] btw, i don't use unity or gnome. i run openbox [05:29] :>) [05:30] but the font in the radiance and other theme is just way to big [05:30] all my menus are huge now [05:30] like the font used in the tab header in firefox, etc [05:30] Thelmaria: Got it. $! only gets populated when you invoke the command with &, so ssh -f -l staging -N -L $port:$filehost:22 $proxyhost & TUNNELPID=$! === cantonic_ is now known as cantonic [05:31] MeganLWoulffe: http://techinterplay.com/fix-toshiba-battery-issue-linux.html [05:31] something else wierd... [05:31] bobweaver: I installed network-msnsger-gnome, but in add panel, I don't have network manager icon [05:31] umm [05:31] even though all my gnome-terminal profiles say "don't show menu bar in new terminals" it's showing [05:31] great...and I have no idea how to compile a kernel... [05:31] they open with it, then it pops in. very irritating ;) [05:32] anyone else notice that? [05:32] MeganLWoulffe: uname -a [05:32] lets see it please [05:32] one moment [05:32] very odd too because when you pull down the menu to get rid of it, it's not checked. you have to check it then uncheck it to get rid of the menubar [05:33] StuckMojo: this is open box or gnome 2 ? [05:33] i'm sure i'll be able to work all this out, as i only just finished the upgrade === tum is now known as Guest23863 [05:33] bobweaver: it's in gnome-terminal in openbox [05:33] StuckMojo: love the nick dude. Blast from the past [05:33] ActionParsnip: ;) [05:33] i've been using it for like...15 years [05:34] since around the release of the original half-life [05:34] anthony_t: Oh, neat. If you're sending it to background iwth &, using -f is unnecessary. Thanks for that, that's really quite neat. [05:34] bobweaver: didn't natty have unity as well? [05:34] StuckMojo: nice. Does xterm do the same? [05:34] it's more like my gtk2 themes are now gone [05:34] yup [05:34] i upgraded from natty [05:35] ActionParsnip: xterm doesn't have a menubar [05:35] bobweaver: actually I don't hhave network manager icon in notification area to be added [05:35] eterm does [05:35] iman: O_o [05:35] StuckMojo: if you use terminal a lot, I ca [05:35] i suppose i could switch to aterm or eterm [05:35] bobweaver: Linux [computername] 3.0.0-12-generic #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 14:56:25 UTC 2001 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [05:35] ActionParsnip: i pretty much only use terminals and a browser [05:35] and thunderbird [05:35] Can recommend installing guake [05:36] ActionParsnip: +1 [05:36] hmm...i wonder how guake would like openbox [05:37] hmm..does gnome3 still use gtk? [05:37] StuckMojo: or tilda, they are consoles that drop down like the one in half life if you added the switch -console in halflife ;-) [05:37] heh [05:37] termanator and yakuake. also rock [05:38] bobweaver: did you get my uname -a? [05:38] bobweaver: I found the problem, the netapplet package has been misied, I re-install it again, thanks btw [05:38] basically i just want something like xterm, but with transparency [05:38] StuckMojo: yakuake is the kde equivalent [05:38] ah [05:38] StuckMojo: sure, guake can be transparent [05:39] Uses xterm as backend too :-) [05:39] MeganLWoulffe: yes I did and am a little suprised tthat it has not been updated with that kerenel [05:39] bobweaver: me too to be honest. I'm a linux noobie, but it seems every distro I try has the same issue [05:40] that is no good MeganLWoulffe [05:40] hmmm...guake is ok, but i need lots of terminals open at once next to eachother [05:40] i'm a coder [05:40] termanator then it is [05:40] Русские есть? [05:40] StuckMojo: ^^ [05:40] yeah that sounds neat [05:41] or i can just fix the menubar issue with gnome-terminal ;) [05:41] StuckMojo: open a new tab then. You can even name the tabs in guake [05:41] lol [05:41] what is the command to retrieve the message send to us in irc [05:41] ActionParsnip: true good old shift+alt+t I think [05:41] ActionParsnip: it's cool, but fits better with normal gnome [05:42] Or right click menu [05:42] bobweaver: would it help if I mentioned that my screen brightness never sticks on reboot? always goes to half brightness [05:43] ok thanks for the suggestions gents [05:43] i'll figure it out tomorrow after work [05:43] time for zZzZz [05:43] i think i'll try the straight gnome 3 [05:43] StuckMojo: i don't know much of gnome terminal but if i don't know a solution I like to give workarounds. Your choice though dude :-) [05:43] ActionParsnip: guake is definitely cool [05:44] especially for normal gnome/unity === barna is now known as bipul [05:45] Hi...When I shut down My computer after running it for 2-3 hrs,its doesnot shutdown ie it hangs in the UBuntu Log off (with 5 dots) screen..And I think the hard disk also shutdown Any ideas ? [05:45] irc.hackt.org [05:46] MeganLWoulffe: it really looks like DSDT file is umm..... [05:46] MeganLWoulffe: cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state [05:46] [05:46] Atharva: does: sudo shutdown -h now work? [05:47] looks like it did work [05:47] sorry wrong channel [05:47] * bobweaver ducks [05:48] bobweaver: that's another thing, I don't have BAT0, only BAT1 and it says present: no [05:48] not good not good ay all [05:48] MeganLWoulffe: at least there is solution [05:49] Actionparsnip : Not tried yet...will it work..And i am one the same machine and the system uptime is hardly 5 min.So I have to try it after 2 hrs :) === Mud is now known as Guest56125 [05:49] bobweaver Oh? And what might that be? [05:49] MeganLWoulffe: http://techinterplay.com/fix-toshiba-battery-issue-linux.html [05:49] great, so I get to learn how to compile a kernel... [05:50] Wasn't Wunderlist a possible app to purchase for $0? I don't see it in the list anymore. [05:50] it si not that hard MeganLWoulffe justs sounds like it [05:50] ActionParsnip ^ ^ ^ :) [05:50] bobweaver: I wouldn't even know where to start. [05:50] MeganLWoulffe: well there is a link :>) [05:51] hola una pregunta por que no puedo actualizar mi linux [05:51] !es | olvis [05:51] olvis: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [05:51] I think [05:51] yeah I know. thanks. I'll see what I can do with it and be back if it doesn't work [05:51] muchas gracias disculpe la molestia [05:52] MeganLWoulffe: cool good luck :>) [05:52] hey, i recently installed 11.10 but after installation i stall at a black screen with a flashing cursor [05:52] You got this [05:52] does anyone know what the cause of this might be? [05:52] you own this #$%^&* [05:53] good bye for now! [05:54] S4mm1ch: not sure that i can help but does it go past that point and boot ? [05:54] some reports that ive read up on say it might have to do with a nvidia driver issue. windows 7 was also installed on this machine and ive read other reports that were similar involving this. ive tried everything that was suggested to no avail. if anyone could possibly assist, it would be greatly appreciated [05:55] no, i dont even see the grub menu anymore [05:55] sorry im new here , can some want help , the linux updater said me , " u cant get more updates " it my first day in linux help me please [05:55] i am wondering if i possibly deleted something i shouldnt have when i installed overtop of windows 7 [05:55] yes im ! [05:55] like possibly deleted the mbr or something [05:55] olvis: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade > es terminal [05:55] ok sorry it no with me XD [05:56] S4mm1ch, if you just have ubuntu you wont see the grub menu without a key prompt [05:56] thanks very much go to try [05:56] ah, it is possible my ubuntu disc was a bad burn and didnt install sucessfully? [05:56] S4mm1ch: not sure I just killed two of my servers installing ubuntu 11.10 server same thing that you are saying [05:57] :-\ is there anyway to get me running back off of the HDD instead of livecd [05:57] install went great then after I close tray and press enter I never got vga to work again [05:57] should i install 10.04 again [05:57] same thing that happened to me bob :( [05:57] the terminal said me 404 not found in the updates :C , i dont know to do :C [05:57] ive been pulling my hair out the past week trying to get it working in my free time [05:58] i wanna download htdp book. what is the command we have to enter in terminal [05:58] getting tired of rebooting and trying different things cause it takes so long to get this livecd up and running [05:58] olvis: are youo connected to the net ? [05:58] sskniranjan: wget ? [05:58] for wlan , why ? [05:58] need i the net ? [05:58] because i can ! [05:59] I know your pain S4mm1ch I could not belive it [05:59] bob - what kinda video u got on ur servers? [05:59] sorry for my english ! [05:59] olvis: it is ok [05:59] in the ubuntu spanish everybody is sleeping ! [05:59] how. please give me the full command. as i don't kno [05:59] :C [06:00] i actually had a very similar problem when going from 9.10 to 10.04. however i was able to get it working but dont remember exactly wat the cause or fix was. [06:00] sskniranjan: wget e.g. wget http://mirror.anl.gov/something.pdf [06:00] the terminal writte this Impossible get http://us.archive.trisquel.info/trisquel/pool/main/y/yelp/yelp_2.28.0-0ubuntu2.9.10.1trisquel1_i386.deb 404 Not Found [06:00] Hello. I have this when attempting to run slapd: config error processing olcDatabase={1}bdb,cn=config: slapd stopped. [06:00] and other url [06:00] S4mm1ch: 00:-e.0 VGA compatible controler: ATI technoligys Inc Rage XL [1002:4752 ](rev 27 ) <-- base but I tried a bunch I have a box of about 15 of them [06:00] suddenly I get "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" for packages including build-essential and libssl-dev [06:00] what could explain that? [06:00] sskniranjan, htdp book from where? [06:01] icemaV9 by this can i get htdp book downloaded [06:01] ? [06:01] sskniranjan: yes [06:01] olvis: you need the net to connect to ubnuntu database or there repostiorys [06:01] bob - if i installed reinstalled 10.04 u think itll work?? [06:02] not sure [06:02] I cant even get mine to bios [06:02] >_< [06:02] will it boot from cd? [06:02] even put ohm meter to vga and it is getting power I want to pull hair out [06:02] No nothing [06:03] what OS did u have on it before [06:03] debian [06:03] Ok someone has to help me now.. im going crazy and cba to run ubuntu anymore if not, cuz this is just too much.. My screen dims all the way down, or just doesnt turn back on after this machine has been idle/screensaver.. [06:03] icemanV9 it is saying not found [06:03] I mean I have 8 of them so ... [06:03] not a huge loss [06:04] as much as i love ubuntu its such a pain sometimes >:( [06:04] sskniranjan: must be wrong url [06:04] but I am not trying on 3rd no matter how much I want too :>) [06:04] well this has been since the update [06:04] i cant live with this [06:04] i think i accidently deleted the partition on my hdd that had my windows 7 installation or else id be runnin that [06:05] plz provide me the correct command to be pasted in the terminal. i don't know all these thing [06:05] S4mm1ch: sudo fdisk -l [06:05] do you see it ? [06:05] S4mm1ch: ^^ [06:06] sskniranjan: i already gave you the example. wget [06:06] Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System [06:06] /dev/sdb1 2048 972582911 486290432 83 Linux [06:06] /dev/sdb2 972584958 976771071 2093057 5 Extended [06:06] /dev/sdb5 972584960 976771071 2093056 82 Linux swap / Solaris [06:07] S4mm1ch: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [06:07] thats all i see [06:07] Oh no [06:07] doesnt look like it [06:08] in ubuntu while compiling kernel... how do i create the custom header files? [06:08] icemanV9 if i wanna downloab the whole book then. by this command i was just able to download the pages by pages [06:08] S4mm1ch: some one told me today if you play a windows install disk backword you can hear satan worship music even worse you play it forward and you install windoz :>) [06:09] or whole website insted [06:09] anyone?? [06:09] i really need to get a os installed to my hdd asap [06:09] bobweaver, windows is not that bad....mac sux [06:10] ^^truth [06:10] Xgt001: could as in #Linux too === Tejas_ is now known as Tejas [06:10] diverdude: like i said i heard [06:10] diverdude however all OS'es are better than ubuntu 11.10 for me :P [06:10] Satanaa, why? [06:11] does macchanger changes mac address permanently [06:11] its like running a a pre-alpha release [06:11] i hear that 11.10 fugged my whole box [06:11] seeems like you should just try to write ubuntu over the whole thing sandwich [06:11] Tejas: no [06:11] haylo , like 10.04? [06:11] i have an issue people know of but none knows how to fix [06:11] Diverdude: tried a few distros? Xpud will boot amazingly from usb, as will puppy [06:11] the devs need a spanking [06:11] yeah, i would do 10.04 0r 11.04 they have both worked well for me [06:11] ActionParsnip, huh? [06:12] it is not worth tying to save a slopped up hard drive partion mess in my opinion [06:12] bobweaver i used macchanger --mac 00:11:22:33:44:55 wlan0 [06:12] how would i go about burning a disc of it if im running off livecd? [06:12] sskniranjan: ok. sounds like you're downloading the book. correct? [06:12] should i just install it to my thumbdrive? [06:12] Satanaa, what dont you like about 11.10? [06:12] Tejas: you can use the -r to make random [06:12] ActionParsnip, i dont need to boot from usb [06:13] sudo macchanger -r [06:13] diverdude that its unusable for me - everytime the screen is idle i have to reboot to be able to use the machine again [06:13] th live cd will give you an option to make a start up usb in start up disk creator [06:13] bobweaver my used command is permanent or not [06:13] diverdude: it wi give you an OS you can use for now until you have time to get an install. Sounds like you have a deadline.. [06:13] Tejas: NO [06:13] icemanV9 ya exactly. but the book is in several web pages. you go to http://www.htdp.org/2003-09-26/Book/ and u will uderstand the situation [06:13] Satanaa, ehhsurely you must have f***** something up [06:13] Thanks bobweaver [06:13] but you should just restart the computer and install from the disk your using [06:13] diverdude im not a ubuntu dev, so no i have not fucked anything up, else than doing a upgrade [06:14] ActionParsnip, my ubuntu works great :) [06:14] ok anyone know how to install bios ? [06:14] Please mind the language [06:14] for a dell server [06:14] I got the docs [06:14] Satanaa, ahhh doing an upgrade. never do an upgrade :D [06:14] I have a problem with xorg not remembering the screen res settings,,,,this is my current xorg.conf file:- http://pastebin.com/E4SPCv75 the [device] section does show the right screen res, but every reboot or power off reverts to 800x600, how do I set the screen res to be remembered on every reboot or power on? [06:14] Satanaa: when it goes black can you press Ctrl+Alt+F1 and get a console? [06:15] and burned to cd and inserted into drive abnd booted but still no Vga [06:15] ActionParsnip nope [06:15] go standby and wake up again, or reboot, thats my 2 options [06:15] Satanaa, last time i did an upgrade my system was also destroyed. Network not working etc. [06:15] put 5 or 6 different graphics cards in and still nbothing [06:15] Satanaa, that was from 9.10 to 0.04 [06:15] Satanaa, 10.04 [06:15] haylo - the disc im using is 11.10 [06:16] where we can find ubuntu source code [06:16] well a lotwas broken when i did the upgrande.. normal things to break, so those i fixed [06:16] sskniranjan: i see. you want to read it offline. right? [06:16] Satanaa: are screensaver and power settings set to never dim etc? [06:16] but this one i cant fix [06:16] !nomodeset [06:16] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [06:16] that will be fine sandwich [06:16] Satanaa, to upgrade, uninstall and install...that i have learned [06:16] !source | Tejas [06:16] Tejas: You can easily fetch a package's source with apt-get. See: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html [06:16] ActionParsnip right now i have caffeine installed so my screen never goes to idle [06:16] !kernel | tejas [06:16] do you get the option to "install ubuntu" [06:16] tejas: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages) [06:16] im forrced to do this [06:17] haylo - the problem is 11.10 doesnt work on my machine [06:17] forced* === somsip_ is now known as wabznasm [06:17] Satanaa, also i have learned...if you are bored, dont install some random game from ubuntu software center...that will also destroy your system [06:17] i kinda need to figure out what is changed by the ubuntu devs so i can fix it [06:18] they are making more MONEY ???? [06:18] how to build and install sofware using its source code [06:18] Satanaa: i know some server switches for xorg.conf. Kde still has sweet power/screensaver disabling ability [06:18] i dont like kde [06:18] Tejas: Look at README file [06:18] and i need the screensaver/dim down [06:19] having this screen turned on for a few years more, will cost me [06:19] Satanaa: i see. I always turn that stuff off [06:19] i have to turn the machine off then [06:19] and thats annoying [06:20] how to build and install sofware using its source code [06:20] Satanaa: are there bugs reported? [06:20] Tejas: Look at README file [06:20] ActionParsnip i dont know [06:20] !compile [06:20] !compile | Tejas [06:20] Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first). Also read !checkinstall [06:20] Tejas: please see above [06:20] bobweaver what are the basic command or outline for doing it [06:20] Can someone please help me make it so that BURG/grub is 1680x1050 resolution? [06:21] !fi MYserver :>) [06:21] bobweaver: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [06:21] Tejas: read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware [06:21] Satanaa: i suggest you check. It may be a known issue for your make/model (assuming the system has one) [06:22] ActionParsnip i could try, but this is more something they should fix and send out [06:22] since they broke it themselves [06:22] none other to blame [06:22] Vustom: BURG isn't supported here. Do you know if 1680x1050 is a supported *VESA* mode on your hardware? [06:22] Vustom: burg isn't supported here. You can set the grub res in /etc/default/grub You will need to uncomment the line first [06:22] I'm having trouble with suspend/resume on ubuntu 11.10. Can anyone tell me the right place to ask for help? [06:23] ActionParsnip: Can you tell me how to do that? [06:23] Jordan_U: How to I check? [06:24] Vustom: "videoinfo" from the grub shell (requires you to reboot to get to the grub shell). [06:24] I am using bind9 as internal and external DNS server and it used to work fine. But after restarting, it stopped working and the server is event not connected to the internet. How can I debug it? [06:24] checked a few pages, cant findit [06:24] Vustom: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/ [06:25] hey guys, is there an easy way to install Ubuntu onto a usb stick? Or should I just set it up as a live CD and use it off that? [06:25] Jordan_U: I'm using 1680x1050 on the desktop as we speak, so wouldn't that mean yes? [06:25] Vustom: that shows the lines to edit. Considering its on the screen for only a few seconds personally I wouldn't bother [06:26] ueman: hey, i was just at the website [06:26] ueman: there is a way to download a cd version as well as a usb stick.. [06:26] andrewh192: which website? [06:26] ueman: http://www.ubuntu.com [06:26] Vustom: Not neccisarily. That's using native drivers, not VESA. [06:26] andrewh192: but is that an y different than a normal install or is it literally the same thing? [06:26] My Pymouth also has a corrupt graphic, it just shoes Ubuntu 11.10 font with crappy like red dots :c [06:26] Vustom: its a different driver. The command on the site will show the available resolutions [06:27] It only goes up to 1600x1200 :/ [06:27] Is there a way to upgrade VESA? [06:27] ueman: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download [06:27] ueman: well, when u download it as a usb stick, it will only be a small part (the most basic part of the install) and the rest it downloads from the servers [06:27] ueman: when you actually are in the process of downloading [06:27] ueman: use unetbootin. Its easy. Remember to MD5 test the ISO you downloaded [06:28] Vustom: No, you can't change what modes your hardware supports via VESA. [06:28] ;@ [06:29] Vustom: why are you so bothered? Its on the screen less than 10 seconds... [06:30] Being a Graphic Designer things like this somewhat bother me, and in which I set out to solve these graphical problems I run into. :) [06:30] how to programatically detect wireless changes in ubuntu? [06:30] icemanV9 exactly. i was out for a while thats y i couldn't answer u. sorry [06:30] i wanna read it offline [06:31] anyone know if there are data in /home that is related to the screensaver etc? [06:31] anandvenkat4: wireshark ? [06:31] ActionParsnip: andrewh192: Jordan_U: It seems all those instructions show you how to create an install disk on a USB key, not how to run ubuntu from a usb stick [06:31] ueman: if you boot the install cd a [06:31] ueman: To run Ubuntu from a USB stick simply install it as you would to an internal drive. [06:31] anyone here know program macchanger? [06:31] putting the live disc on a usb will allow you to run ubuntu as a live cd [06:32] err install disc [06:32] yeah you can make the live usb from live cd if you must- is better than windows anyway [06:32] HansLanda yes, but you dont need it [06:32] use startup dis creator [06:33] and set the persistence file!! :) [06:33] ueman: you can install to the usb like a normal drive. I suggest you use ext2 and put a lot in ramfs to reduce wear on the usb storage [06:33] http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ [06:33] nice guides there [06:33] to make a persistent drive etc [06:33] i just do normal installs to my 32gb usb stick [06:33] Satanaa, im trying to spoof my mac address but without success [06:33] But I tried installing it to a usb drive [06:33] and I can't boot from it [06:34] HansLanda your system can already do this [06:34] bios options perhaps>? ueman [06:34] ueman: theres different ways to put it on ysb [06:34] ueman: What happens when you try to boot from it? How did you try to install to the USB? [06:34] Satanaa, how? can u give me the solution? === corsair is now known as Guest44819 [06:35] HansLanda http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1M5ViAqcxB8 [06:35] check macchanger, he also shows how to use the original way [06:36] Jordan_U: I installed to USB key using the installer and am trying to use rEFIt to boot of the USB key [06:36] but when I boot, it shows me "Mission Operating System" [06:36] and nothing else [06:36] booting a mac? [06:36] dr_willis: yea [06:36] ueman: The fact that you're using a Mac would have been good to state initially :) [06:36] agree [06:37] Jordan_U: Now I know.. my bad, apologies [06:37] i dont use macs. sono idea othem n [06:37] ueman: Apple's BIOS implementation can't boot from USB, you'd need to install grub-efi (though booting via EFI will cause issues with many graphics drivers). [06:37] try a live cd on the mac and see how it responds [06:38] i'm currently booted off a live cd [06:38] can you install from the live cd? [06:38] yes [06:38] haylo-bot_: yes [06:39] well, it installs [06:39] but I can't boot off the install I did [06:39] hello, i need to know if (and how) i can set a proxy for a user so that he cannot change or disable it? [06:39] haylo-bot_: Apple's BIOS implementation doesn't work with USB. It's a known problem. [06:39] oh thats righ tyou are making a persistent usb [06:39] use the usb creator in the live cd [06:39] it is a good program [06:39] and easy to use [06:39] and then my system will persist? [06:40] it has an feature where you can set apersisence drive [06:40] it auto sets it at 1G [06:40] haylo-bot_: Did you see my message? [06:40] you just need to slide the bar up and make it more than 1G [06:40] no jordan [06:40] haylo-bot_: Apple's BIOS implementation doesn't work with USB. It's a known problem. [06:41] i see sorry [06:41] afaik macs dont have a bios [06:41] ueman: Can you boot the USB on a PC? It will be easier to fix things to be able to boot from a mac from there. [06:41] efi or something? [06:41] Satanaa: They also have a BIOS implementation, it just doesn't work with USB drives for some reason. [06:42] efi would be it, and there's elilo which could handle Mac [06:42] Jordan_U im sure they dont have "bios" hehe [06:42] well it is good to note that they have a difficult time booting from usb [06:43] seems like that would make the machine worthless in some ways [06:43] lol [06:44] Jordan_U: But I know I could boot OSX off usb, how come I can't boot linux? [06:44] is there a way I can make that bar at the top hide when the mouse is not near it? [06:44] ueman: It can, just not via a BIOS based bootloader. You need to install grub-efi. [06:45] "ueman> Jordan_U: But I know I could boot OSX off usb, how come I can't boot linux?" because steve jobs didnt want that [06:45] so if you already have grub on a mac you can use usb? [06:45] Jordan_U: So can I install grub-efi to boot the version of linux I've just installed to the USB key? [06:46] ueman: Yes. [06:46] anyone else in cali here feel that earthquake? [06:46] !ot | grendal-prime [06:46] grendal-prime: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [06:46] grendal-prime: where in cali? [06:46] how about is there a way I can make the mouse pointer larger? [06:47] well thats the werid part im in the serias..usually if i feel it its hit somewhere else pretty damn hard [06:47] and Jordan_U shut up [06:47] this could be serious [06:48] http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsww/Quakes/nc71671056.php [06:48] no need to get rowdy peeps, I think it's ok to be off topic for a few lines, let's all keep it in check and do remind us if it gets out of hand. [06:48] was a 4.8 [06:48] yeah [06:48] just saw online [06:48] at usgs [06:48] ya [06:49] northern cali [06:49] grendal-prime: This channel has guidelines, please follow them. [06:49] ok well thanks just wanted to talk to some live people make sure i wasnt crazy.. [06:49] dude [06:49] .4 miles deep [06:49] you need to quite [06:49] and now [06:49] grendel this is an ubuntu forum i dont care if you are falling into the chasm itself [06:50] holle [06:50] i mean hello [06:50] haylo-bot_ then help :P [06:50] err [06:50] wow, some botz just don't care at all about anything.. [06:50] then help me* [06:50] whats up satanaa? [06:50] is there some way I can change mouse size? all the stuff I find on google is for older versions and Im using 11.10 [06:50] ill call the fcc.. in time of emergency anything is useable.. [06:50] everytime my screen goes idle i cant get back into the desktop [06:51] i have to reboot or go standby and wake up again [06:51] anyway..thanks guys.. [06:51] night [06:51] are your settings default sayanna? [06:51] and this happend after i upgraded from11.04 to 11.10 [06:51] yes i assume so [06:52] could you rpointer not be activating the screen while sleeping? also i set mine to never go to sleep [06:52] dont know [06:52] i am not an ubuntu admin but if 11.04 worked on your computer i would use that insead [06:52] loads of other people have this issue with 11.10, none knows how to fix it [06:53] grendal-prime: Why were you telling someone to shut up? [06:53] haylo-bot_ i like to stay up to date [06:53] that is too up to date [06:53] not really [06:53] 11.04 is too up to date [06:53] yeah really [06:53] it has older packages [06:53] so nope [06:53] ok [06:54] so suppose you minimize a couple of terminals with unity. how do you restore the minimized windows? [06:54] i like"bleeding edge" [06:54] bkerensa: he asked a question about whether someone felt an earthquake and everyone lost their shit about staying on topic [06:54] ueman: I see [06:54] you get bleeding edge forom being a good linux operator not from downloading unstable releases [06:54] if i double click the terminal icon i can see them for a moment before the fade away [06:55] haylo-bot_ yea and this is a ubuntu dev error [06:55] anyway i understand though but i refuse to run 11.10 [06:55] hi [06:55] ubuntu broke it, not me [06:55] I just updated from 11.04 to 11.10 [06:55] horchata: Alt-Tab ? [06:55] good choice haylo-bot_ [06:56] In the control panel, I can't see any option to customize themes, I mean character size, etc ... [06:56] the fake looking login screen made me want to throw my computer out the window [06:56] a way to do it please ? [06:56] cuz ubuntu 11.10 is millimeters for making me format and never use ubuntu again [06:56] qin: this just shows the last terminal minimized [06:56] milimeters a lot? [06:56] please tell, if someone does know anything that might help me with the proxy problem [06:56] qin: the rest are still hidden [06:56] almoxarife very little [06:57] horchata: You sure that they are on same workspace? [06:57] qin: yeah, all one the first workspace [06:57] horchata: a double cluck puts them in expo mode here [06:57] bkerensa, because there was an earthquake where i am located..wich is very strange and when it happens here usually it is huge somewhere else. i wanted to make sure a major catastropy had not happend i asked one question and got told to take it somewhere else [06:58] dr_willis: something specific to my box then [06:58] Hello, i have installed ubuntu 11.10 64-bit. And i can't see skype icon in my taskbar. Why? [06:58] dr_willis: I'll try a reboot [06:58] since the 11.10 upgrade has come out i have been using a windows machine to do stuff.. and its first time in 2 years i do that hehe [06:58] Why isn't this working? http://www.gnomeshell.com/2011/04/25/gnome-shell-extensions-change-activities-to-ubuntu-logo/ [06:58] gasp [06:58] horchata: clean unity serup here..just installed today [06:58] horchata: Try: Ctrl-D, Ctrl-D [06:58] satanna ... NO!!!! [06:58] I've put both files in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions and restarted GNOME, but it didn't work [06:58] well it doesnt piss me off [06:59] grendal-prime: Well this is a support channel and #ubuntu-offtopic may be more appropriate so others can be assisted [06:59] lol yeah- i like windows sometimes [06:59] qin: in which window? [06:59] horchata: Any [06:59] imagent working on a project.. you have to pee, and when you get back you cant get back in, and you might have to reboot [06:59] but when i start installing stuff it just cant keep up [06:59] Vustom: which? there are a few things listed [06:59] Hmm [06:59] that makes ubuntu worse than a chinese copy of ios [07:00] does someone know how to delete the second battery state applet in 11.10 please ? [07:00] qin: closes the window? [07:00] Vustom: that one, yeah, me too, just had it happen too [07:00] almoxarife: Huh? In the .zip file there's a folder, with 2 files in it? I copied the folder into ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions [07:00] almoxarife: Do you know how to get it working? c: [07:00] Satanaa: I feel loony after 5 minutes here... [07:00] qin ? [07:00] qin: weird ctrl-d then alt tab lets me gradually move down the stack of minimized windows one at a time [07:01] horchata: No, should minimize all windows. [07:01] hello all I am doing a project in which I need to read .deb files. Is there any library or interface available which I can use in my program to read these files. If this is a wrong channel Please forgive me and if you could suggest me some other channel for query regarding apt ? [07:01] qin: sure doesn't on my box [07:01] Vustom: I think so, you see the contents of the folder d/l? and the location where it is suppose to end up? put it there , I would do it the easy way, but what ever way suits you [07:02] Satanaa: np, just pop in my head that irssi can heal a problem ;) [07:02] horchata: Do you run compiz? [07:02] qin: but anyway, I was able to close the minimized windows one by one and then alt-tab back to the first [07:02] good bye [07:02] almoxarife: Do I copy the folder activities@gnomeshell.com to /home/vustom/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions? [07:02] Or only those 2 files inside the folder, and not the folder itself? [07:03] right now im in a "fist trugh the monitor mood" cuz of ubuntu.. so i dont really know what you mean right now qin [07:03] horchata: Or rather is it upgrade and if yes, did you change any compiz settings? [07:03] qin: no changes from the default outside of installing the propriatary drivers [07:03] 11.10, fresh install [07:04] qin: nvidia accelerated graphics driver to be specific [07:05] Vustom: the final location you have showing here is not the one shown on the webpage [07:05] horchata: it is rather compiz plugin, unity --reset (will log you out) [07:05] what are my options for a site specific browser on ubuntu? firefox used to have prism but it appears to be depricated now [07:06] How can i add skype icon in my taskbar? Ubuntu 11.10 64-bit. [07:06] almoxarife: I don't see the difference? D: [07:07] Vustom: ok, you took creative license, then the folder with contents would be moved to the .local, I think, didn't try it yet [07:08] i think you can just drag it from the apllication menu to the launcher bar Forseti [07:08] almoxarife: You lost me at the creative license part :( [07:09] while copying file to another disk system says it is readonly filesystem [07:09] All I've done so far is unzip activities-ubuntu-gnome-shell-extension.zip to /home/vustom/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions and then Alt+F2 then R, but nothing has changed [07:09] how to change fiule permission [07:09] almoxarife: ^ [07:09] Vustom: I just meant you decided to place the files/folder locally, when the command line has it going to /user/..... [07:10] Vustom: dont you use the gnome tweak tool to enable it? [07:10] gaurav_dreamweav: Is it usb, or sdcard? [07:10] Hi Everybody! [07:10] Vustom: meant /usr/.. [07:10] I have a question relevant to configuring DNS for two interfaces installed on a server [07:10] qin, its is my hdd partion ... files are not getting deleted or nither i can paste anythig into it [07:10] Anyone can help please? [07:11] haylo-bot_, Tried, nothing happened. And also when i close skype with symbol 'x' it disapear. When i'm trying to open it by clicking shortcut it says to me that skype is already running. [07:11] dr_willis: from the web site 'Important: this extension shows up as disabled in GNOME Tweak Tool because of an error in the extension code. Despite this, the extension still works!''' [07:11] gaurav_dreamweav: It is linux partition? try "mount" to see how it is mounted. [07:11] how do i flush my dns cache? [07:11] Uh.. I typed in sudo nautilus ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions into the terminal using 11.10 GNOME 3, and it changed my background to the default one and now my right click looks like Windows 98 [07:11] What the hell did I just do D: [07:11] Hi there! [07:12] Vustom: tell me if it works, I'll follow your lead, thnks [07:12] shut down the computer forseti and try moving skype [07:12] almoxarife: unless they fixed it.... [07:12] does anybody knows how to remove gnome-power-manager without breaking ubuntu-desktop please ? [07:12] sanduz2: who is your DNS provider? [07:12] Does somebody know how can i set up the dns for two network interfaces? [07:12] haylo-bot_, you mean restart? [07:12] somsip: ive tried 3 different ones, so... google or opendns [07:12] Abdu same was as for 1 [07:12] sanduz2: if you do not run your own, you are dependent on when they refresh [07:13] yeah restart [07:13] your skype is still running [07:13] qin, that is ntfs partition and when i was using 11.04 i never face this type of problem i have 2 system i am facing same problem in both , how i use mount [07:13] Satanna: what do you mean same for 1? [07:13] way* [07:13] or find it and actually quit the program [07:13] somsip, how about if i change the DNS provider on my router. isnt there some sort of local cache i can reset? [07:13] Now i have minimised skype. [07:13] I can control it at this time [07:13] Forseti, modify the notification panel whitelist [07:13] Someone should add "required packages" like uswswap to the swapfaq on ubuntu.com, me thinks.. [07:13] sanduz2: if your router acts as a DNS cache, possibly. It's a very wide question. [07:13] Abdu the way you setup the first nic, do the samewith the second [07:14] BertoX, i am new to linux, and dunno how to do this. :s [07:14] gaurav_dreamweav: Most likely your windows did not shutdown properly. [07:14] almoxarife: My GNOME 3 looks like Windows 98 now :c [07:14] somsip, ive seen some sites suggestion to restart nscd (or ipconfig /flushdns on windows). then what do these things do? [07:14] I've screwed it up D: [07:14] qin, i don't have any other windows os i only use ubuntu [07:15] Forseti if you are new to linux.. ubuntu 11.10 is the wrong choice, its not user friendly [07:15] Forseti, gsettings set com.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist "['all']" [07:15] sanduz2: posibly they do things on windows. If you ran your own bind server, you could just stop and restart bind. That's what I do. But bind only caches DNS that are served to it by your DNS provider, hence my original question [07:15] and what BertoX showed you can cause issues too [07:15] gaurav_dreamweav: right. sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g [07:16] Satanaa, then what you recommmend for newbie? [07:16] somsip, hmm, not running bind here. [07:16] yeah shouldnt be a big deal to get an icon in your launcher [07:16] Forseti older version of ubuntu, or linux mint :) [07:16] qin, what this will do [07:16] Satanaa, please specify issues I can encouter with this modification please ? I do it since 11.04 (especially ofr skype) and I never had any issue [07:16] sanduz2: then when you 'dig' an an address, you will be querying your DNS provider (google, opendns, whatever) [07:16] gaurav_dreamweav: Will install tool for mounting ntfs partitions [07:17] BertoX it can add icons there you dont want [07:17] Satanaa, hm, 10.04 is good? [07:17] sanduz2: And if they have a cached DNS entry that has not expired, that's what you'll get. You can't force them to refresh their cache [07:17] you mean any application that want to put a tray icon ? [07:17] better than 11.10 if you want it to be user friendly [07:17] somsip, weird. the reason that im asking all this is because even after i change my dns provider on my router, all my requests still seem to go through the same route (traceroute) [07:17] 2 Forseti [07:17] @* [07:17] i amusing 11.04 [07:17] yea [07:18] somsip, so i thought maybe something local was causing that [07:18] sanduz2: those are two separate issues. [07:18] not really an issue then :) [07:18] almoxarife: I'm still confused where I need to unzip the folder? [07:18] qin, but can u tell me how its done in 11.04 without any problem.. how come in this it is getting happen [07:18] it performs absurdly well [07:18] Satanaa, i am migrating from windows. With windows i can do more than linux. So, now i want to learn same things to do with linux. So you are recommending ubuntu? [07:18] only in linux would you never do: man unzip [07:18] 10.04* [07:19] Hey everyone, I'm having some issues, my DPGK file is missing. [07:19] darius_, sveikas. :) [07:19] Forseti: puppy linux or linux mint might be good for starters [07:19] Blue1: Can you do that anywhere else? Mac? [07:19] hey guys what is the key bind to bring minimized windows to front for Forseti skye problem? [07:19] forseti, what? [07:19] darius_: what is DPGK? [07:19] Vustom: the folder can be unzipped anywhere where you can get to it, it should have unzipped already with the first command line shown on the example [07:20] he keeps minimizing skype [07:20] Forseti http://www.xubuntu.org/ is nice too [07:20] darius_, sorry, thought that you are form Lithuania. :) [07:20] hai anyone can tell Install Gloobus Flow With Nautilus Integration In Ubuntu [07:20] its ubuntu with xfce instead of unity [07:20] gaurav_dreamweav: First, I did not see ntfs partition since 5 years, besided having it whan running linux is odd, second ntfs support in linux is artifitial so strange things may happen. [07:20] llutz, i dont know its a ubuntu program [07:20] Slartibart: do what? [07:20] Satanaa, hmz now i am realy confused. :D [07:20] darius_: /usr/bin/dpkg you mean? [07:20] yes [07:20] that file is missing [07:21] darius_: how do you know it's missing? [07:21] Forseti its more user friendly but still latest version [07:21] hai anyone can tell Install Gloobus Flow With Nautilus Integration In Ubuntu [07:21] Satanaa, Xubuntu? [07:21] darius_: why did you remove it? it's essential [07:21] Forseti yes :) [07:21] hai anyone can tell Install Gloobus Flow With Nautilus Integration In Ubuntu [07:21] almoxarife: I unzipped it myself and put it in ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions, I am new to GNOME 3/Ubuntu remember :) [07:21] Satanaa, better is mint or xubuntu? [07:21] I was looking into the error in a forum and it said that my error code meant that the file was missing or corrupt, so I looked and it wasn't there. [07:22] Forseti i would say both really :) [07:22] hi i am new to xchat [07:22] so you do have a choice :) [07:22] Satanaa, i know, that my questions are so dumb, but i need to know, cuz i really want to learn how to use linux. :s [07:22] darius_: "ls -l /usr/bin/dpkg" in terminal, any output? [07:22] I downloaded a .rpm file that is supposed to be the dpkg but I don't know what to do with it [07:22] darius_: if you type which dpkg what do you get? [07:22] pls tell me the solution for how to Install Gloobus Flow With Nautilus Integration In Ubuntu [07:22] !patience | liju [07:22] liju: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [07:22] darius_: rpms are not debs [07:23] darius_: ubuntu uses .deb not rpm [07:23] darius_: you can't use rpms with ubuntu [07:23] Forseti i do get you.. i have used linux for atleast 10 years, and ubuntu 11.10 confuses me [07:23] ok [07:23] if i type dpkg it tells me that its not installed and when i try to install it it says its the latest version [07:23] darius_: "ls -l /usr/bin/dpkg" in terminal, any output? [07:23] Forseti i might just install xubuntu myself now when i think about it [07:23] darius_: do an echo $path and paste the line here [07:24] how to see what version of gnome I have? [07:24] darius_: history | grep dpkg [07:24] Satanaa, then ubuntu 11,10 really not for me. :D [07:24] sorry echo $PATH [07:24] llutz, http://pastie.org/2766315 [07:24] Forseti its not really for anyone.. new, average, pro.. :) [07:24] Vustom: didn't work for me, in either location, not sure where the issue is, operator or code [07:24] and everyoen I have no idea what any of that means I'm new to linux. [07:25] Satanaa, hm, so for what? :D [07:25] darius_: so again, why did you remove it? [07:25] as I said before I didn't remove it. [07:25] darius_: history | grep dpkg [07:25] How would I be able to remove it I'm not root? [07:26] darius_: then it's either not in yor path or you removed it [07:26] Blue1: see the paste, it's "gone" [07:26] blue1 http://pastie.org/2766322 [07:27] Forseti i dont know really [07:27] not enough contrast to read [07:27] qin, thanks man 1:) [07:27] Satanaa, Okay, thank you very much, now i am going to choose one of those. :D [07:27] #Browsing [07:28] darius_: It will be silly, but: lsb_release -a [07:28] Forseti thanks for asking, now i know what to do myself :) [07:28] Satanaa, heh, you are really nice person. ;) [07:28] okay it looks like you did an ls -l /usr/bin/dpkg [07:28] Blue1: because i told him [07:28] you too Forseti :) [07:29] blue what exactly does that mean? [07:29] darius_: nothing important [07:30] I'm an OS X person, but this is a PC, so I decided to use Linux on it. [07:30] Good Man [07:30] Ohh ive made it all work here. Except printers.. I need to be able to somhow add a printer based on its IP (networked printer ofcourse) but when i use the tool to add printers it just give me their names. I cant add by ip somhow [07:30] I know very little about this so far. [07:30] mac's are pc's too [07:30] Satanaa, going for xubuntu 11.04. :) [07:30] well ls -l says to list the details on the file the follows [07:30] < qin> darius_: It will be silly, but: lsb_release -a [07:30] Forseti xubuntu 11.10 for me :) [07:30] how to safely remove gnome-power-manager in oneiric please ? [07:31] Blue1: because i told him, to check if the binary is present or he just messed his PATH up [07:31] I had to update my kernel to 3.0.0-13 to get my epson printer to work [07:31] i did that command [07:31] llutz_: irssi 0.8.15 (Natty?) [07:31] it said no LSB moduals [07:31] llutz_: yeah the windows solution (reboot) might fix the problem [07:31] qin: maverick [07:32] Blue1: nonsense [07:32] is there anyway I could install it from a backup or download a backup and put it in there? [07:33] darius_: what version of ubuntu are you running? "cat /etc/issue" [07:33] 11.10 [07:33] darius upgrade your kernel to 3.0.0-13. You need to enable the pre-release updates in sources. Than use synaptic package manager to mark all updates and install the newer kernel. [07:33] how do I update a kernel [07:33] darius_: Have you attempted upgrade? [07:33] bkovacs: what? how is that related to a missing binary? [07:33] Kernel 3.0.0-12 which comes with 11.10 has some issues with printer detection [07:34] apt-get upgrade just tells me that my chromium failed to install properly and to try -f install [07:34] bkovacs: Installing without dpkg is fairly difficult? [07:34] darius_: you could get the dpkg.deb from packages.ubuntu.org and extract the file [07:35] So it's not a detection problem? [07:35] bkovacs: scroll back and read [07:35] ok [07:35] is there any procedure how to add a printer by its IP instead of its bonjourname ? [07:35] hello all, does anyone have some advise on how to get canonical's attention to fix a major bug. As far as myself and a bunch of people are concerned, unity is completely broken when using nvidia twinview to display on more than one monitor and we are getting nowhere on launchpad [07:36] darius_: Have you upgraded 11.04 to 11.10? [07:36] no its from a disc fresh install on a nuked hdd === jos is now known as Guest86131 [07:36] and that website isnt actually a real website [07:36] anyone make any themes for ubuntu 11.10 yet? [07:36] its just a picture of an ad [07:37] yes there are loads of gnome3/gtk3 themes Infekted [07:37] darius_: packages.ubuntu.com, sry [07:37] oh okay. [07:37] so gtk3 themes work? [07:37] yes [07:37] cause i dont use gnome shell [07:37] unity is ontop of gnome3 :) [07:37] im in unity [07:37] yes [07:37] Satanaa, I found by myself an icon that shouldn't appear in the bar. So I reverted back the whitelist to default. Now I want to add an application in the whitelist. How to identify the name to put in the whitelist please ? [07:37] unity is ontop of gnome3 [07:37] cool [07:38] thanx [07:38] BertoX i told you :) [07:38] yep :) [07:38] what program is it? [07:38] xchat [07:38] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dpkg&searchon=names&suite=oneiric§ion=all which package and how do i do it? [07:38] I'm on gnome xchat with gnome shell [07:39] you just add 'xchat' afaik :) [07:39] psypher246 i can recommend install gnome-shell and gdm to remove other options than gnome classic.. that seems to work just fine if you want work done.. unity is a nice looking toy.. its not very useful for working [07:39] I added XChat [07:39] let me try without caps [07:39] darius_: "uname -m" 32 or 64bit? [07:39] 32 [07:39] amd [07:40] darius_: so you got i686? [07:40] thats what all the packages say yes [07:41] kriss_: no thanks. I want ot use unity, i like unity and it's been working fine in natty [07:41] darius_: then download the package "dpkg" i386 [07:41] Satanaa, thx ! without caps, it works [07:41] np BertoX :) [07:41] morning all [07:41] Forseti, then don't do the modification I gave you. I found at least one issue as Satanaa said ... [07:42] just add 'Skype' in the list [07:42] kriss_: twinview has been broken since oneiric, and as unity is awesome for work, not just a toy, I can't really work in any other environment anymore [07:42] Both Unity and Gnome Shell work fine for me in 11.10. I currently prefer Gnome shell. But don't mind switching to Unity one in a while. [07:42] ok. well its a free envirorment hehe. Personally i was like.. Damn unity go away.. It was easy in 11.04 but alot more tricky in 11.10 However only in 11.10 does it work flawless with domais and windows shares [07:42] okay i downloaded, now what do I do? [07:42] kriss_: once you get to know unity you realise how awesome it it [07:43] well i cant find ANYTHING in unity.. in 11.04 i could just barely find the login screen which lets me change the default session [07:43] Both are new desktop enviroments and will take a little time to get used to. And both will eventually mature. [07:43] psypher246 really? im moving to xubuntu 11.10 hehe [07:43] press super key type login [07:43] darius_: "ar xv dpkg.....deb /usr/bin/dpkg" [07:43] not hard at all [07:43] i guess.. but i have good reasons to make gnome look as close to windows as it possibly can. [07:43] BertoX, Ok, thx. :)) [07:43] I have two ubuntu machines here, one with 11.04 and one with 11.10. Both have ATI cards and dual monitors, which work, but neither of them will save any changes I make in the catalyst control center, even in administrative mode. Is this a known problem? [07:43] If you want a windows look than use Kubuntu [07:43] I got like 1000 windows users who cant pick their noses without help [07:44] wow [07:44] dude. you should take THAT to off topic [07:44] where are the ops for that stuff? [07:44] sorry [07:45] llutz, ar: dpkg.....deb: No such file or directory [07:45] darius_: replace with the correct filename of the dpkg.deb you downloaded [07:45] Check this out Ricard Stallman Eats something from his foot. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ [07:45] okay [07:46] bkovacs: Do you have any ubuntu support related question? [07:47] Satanaa: xubuntu is cool,but like i said, i really love unity, when it works [07:47] so i will stick with it till it does [07:47] llutz it stills says no such file or directory [07:48] psypher246 i dont know why.. even the dock is "broken" :P [07:48] darius_: cd into the dir you downloaded the file to. then "ar xv dpk" [07:48] darius_: it should expand the filename [07:49] Satanaa: how do u mean broken? [07:49] Nope just browsing [07:49] you can click to open a program, but you cant click to minimize it etc [07:49] Seeing if I can help [07:49] Satanaa: never really wanted to do that so not an issue for me [07:49] Is there a command to change the title of the command window instead of having to use the mouse? [07:49] Adding a little humor to our chat [07:50] bkovacs: then pls stop your random offtopic stuff [07:50] i minimize using the panel [07:50] what do you mean cd into the directory? [07:50] can any body tell .....how to get rid of Gwenview...from ubuntu 11.10 [07:50] psypher246 however not that i have said it, it might start to bug you :P [07:50] now* [07:50] Get a life llutz [07:50] darius_: use "cd" to change into that dir [07:51] !ot | bkerensa [07:51] bkerensa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [07:51] i cant format my pen drive [07:51] Satanaa: once your learn the shortcut keys, unity becomes a pleasure. but I get that people with disabilities are limited, so i think Ubuntu has hurt those people a little, but then again, I have never tried any of the assistive technologies so i dunno how limiting it is [07:52] right now I just wish i can find a away to get canonicals attention to the big issues [07:52] psypher246 people with a logic mind are also limited [07:52] okay I have this: darius@darius:~/Downloads$ but when I type in the command it still says file or directory not found [07:52] so retarded people and logic people are hit [07:52] Satanaa: totally disagee [07:53] help me out ...idont wana use this 11.10 ...how i go back [07:53] thats your opinion :) [07:53] darius_: "ls -l dpk*" [07:53] to 11.04 [07:53] Satanaa: agreed [07:53] xatcon i am afraid, reinstall, but... [07:53] !nounity | xatcon [07:53] xatcon: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic [07:54] anyways i guess unity isent so bad.. ubuntu 11.10 has must made me see it with hate [07:54] Satanaa: why? [07:54] what makes you hate it so? [07:54] llutz, I got this http://pastie.org/2766406 [07:54] cuz 11.10 is pos [07:54] :) [07:54] explain? [07:54] its "broken" [07:54] how? [07:54] thanx ubottu [07:55] всем привет [07:55] every time my screen i idle ( screensaver ) i have to either reboot or go to standby and wake it back up to get to the desktop [07:55] you can't say an entire gui is broken cos you can't minimize an ap from the dock [07:55] darius_: tar xcf data.tar.gz [07:55] is* [07:55] Satanaa: ok well that sucks [07:56] i had issue like that in mavercik, so can't really blame unity [07:56] tar: You may not specify more than one `-Acdtrux' or `--test-label' option [07:56] Try `tar --help' or `tar --usage' for more information. [07:56] psypher246 very much.. and more knowing that an ubuntu dev has done this to me [07:56] I guess I will take a breake, or will add to ignore everything bottom of O [07:56] Satanaa: next time don't reboot [07:56] that prob has something with unity todo [07:56] Satanaa: go ctrl alt f1 [07:56] darius_: tar xf data.tar.gz sorr [07:56] y [07:56] doesntwork psycho_oreos [07:56] log in and c=kill gnome screen saver [07:56] psypher246 i mean [07:57] psypher246 i cant just login blindly [07:57] the screen is black no matter what i do [07:57] okay, got it. Now what? [07:57] so you can't even get ot the cli? [07:57] nope [07:57] ouch [07:57] ok thats broken [07:57] indeed [07:57] Good morning i'm having an issue with Yuuguu since i install Ubuntu 11.10, but if i create a new account in my Ubuntu looks like works [07:57] darius_: "sudo cp usr/bin/dpkg /usr/bin/dpkg " [07:57] sorry i haven't had that issue, others but not that [07:57] darius_: 1st path without leading / [07:58] the other issues are ok tho, they were fixable [07:58] i have the erro code that Yuuggu throw but i cannot understand somebody can help me? [07:58] i can paste the error and put in her [07:58] psypher246 and many have this issue, but none knows how to fixit [07:58] here [07:58] Is there a command to change the title of the command window instead of having to use the mouse? [07:58] what do you mean by that [07:59] darius_: "sudo cp usr/bin/dpkg /usr/bin/dpkg " exact like this [07:59] Satanaa: i have had many weird annoying issues in ubuntu these past 7 years, each new version brings new issues when they fix other, so I cannot say how happy I am that FINALLY canonicval is gonna spend an entire release cycle on JUSt fixing bugs, it's high time, i have been saying it for years but then unity came along and I had to wait all over again [07:59] darius_: without quotes [07:59] okay I did that but no output [07:59] darius_: "ls -l /usr/bin/dpkg" should show the file after that [07:59] im just gonna do xubuntu and hope that such a MASSIVE issues are gone hehe [08:00] -a [08:00] darius_: and pls no pastie.org, its really hard to read :) [08:00] Satanaa: yeah sounds like a good idea for now, sorry you can't experience the awesomeness of untity that i appreciate [08:00] diverdude: gnome-terminal -t your_title [08:00] darius@darius:~/Downloads$ ls -l /usr/bin/dpkg [08:00] -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 247936 2011-10-27 03:59 /usr/bin/dpkg [08:00] qin, but that will start a new terminal and set the title. I want to set it for the current terminal [08:00] osmosis_paul: must you use it? [08:00] It's really easy for me, I guess I just have a good monitor haha [08:00] darius_: so it worked, "sudo apt-get install --reinstall dpkg" now [08:01] psypher246 i dunno, i used to use gnome2 and docky.. the unity dock is quite a downgrade really too hehe [08:01] darius_: mobilephone here ... [08:01] almoxarife, sorry what do you mean? [08:01] Satanaa: try cairo dock, works great [08:01] lags for me :) [08:01] qin, and besides it does not set the title of the new terminal either [08:02] ohh makes perfect sense. im using irssi. but It's still giving me errors about chromium files that didn't install right [08:02] osmosis_paul: are you using that app because you don't have a choice? [08:02] almoxarife, yep, application app [08:02] almoxarife, i mean company app XD [08:03] osmosis_paul: what is the error? [08:03] osmosis_paul: has the app worked before? [08:04] almoxarife, yes, can you tell me an paste/code application to paste errors? [08:04] how can I show you the output without obottu yelling at me? [08:04] paste.ubuntu.com [08:05] almoxarife, i mean web page, the normal page that use dont allow some character of the error file [08:05] osmosis_paul: Satanaa: paste.ubuntu.com [08:05] Satanaa: i like cocky, but it was also DAMN buggy and annoying sometimes and I eventaulyl alwasy went back to stock gnome2, and yes unity dock is stil buggy, but i can see where they are going with it and the future is awesome [08:05] IM BACK [08:05] !pastebin | darius_ [08:05] darius_: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [08:05] lol not cocky, DOCKY [08:05] I would tend to disagree with that viewpoint [08:05] qin, ? [08:06] diverdude: Ah. title, what option you have to title: appent, keep initial, or change? [08:06] psypher246 makes more sense hehe [08:06] DAMN how many jessicas do we have? [08:06] llutz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/720468/ [08:06] qin, im sorry i dont understand your question [08:07] grendal-prime to bad most of them are guys :P [08:07] psypher246 how do you revert to gnome2 ? I can only get gnome 3 classic at best [08:07] darius_: "sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/chromium-browser_14.0.835.202~r103287-0ubuntu1_i386.deb" [08:07] ok libvirt. anybody upset with the fact that the ubuntu version of libvirt cannot mange physical interfaces [08:07] !gnome2 | kriss_ [08:07] kriss_: The GNOME Foundation has ceased support for GNOME 2, and as such it is not in Ubuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot). See !notunity for an alternative desktop experience. [08:07] don't think u can still get gnome 2 in oneiric [08:07] Kriss_ you dont [08:07] diverdude: In profiles, you can set what will happend with title, is it going be static or not. [08:08] kriss_: ok so i was right [08:08] ubottu, by the way that blows [08:08] grendal-prime: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [08:08] hi cant get my BCM43227 wireless going on oneiric, additional drivers says its blacklisted i was told. im ssh'd in. how can i resolve? [08:08] yeah figured.. i did remove the unity [08:08] darius_: then "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser" [08:08] almoxarife, look in the private chat [08:08] qin, its just when i have a command window open and i want to set a title [08:08] kriss_ you can use gnome-fallback ( gnome3 that tries to look / act like gnome2 ) [08:09] osmosis_paul: nothing there yet [08:09] satanaa yeah thats what i do.. i also installed gdm and removed the other choices from the folder so there is ONLY the gnome-2 lookalike now. [08:10] llutz, No such file or directory [08:10] darius_: then "sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser" [08:10] kriss_ nice :) [08:11] yeah. except a very few things it now works like a charm.. Ive even fixed a problem where remastersys ISO's would crash when booting. turns out you cant remastersys a domaincomputer so you gotta leave domain first. [08:12] diverdude: not sure. you probably need to find (check) terminal settings in gcon-editor [08:12] am having problem uninstalling i2p from ubuntu need help [08:14] okay that worked, is there anything else I need to do? [08:14] darius_: nope === joo is now known as Guest81830 [08:14] Alright, thank you SO much. [08:14] darius_: maybe check how you/whoever removed dpkg :) [08:14] Does anyone know anything about mincraft errors? [08:15] good mornin' [08:16] I can't login to minecraft, and when I click play offline it lags horribly. [08:16] hi darius, can't solve your problem [08:16] but i wonder if you could help me [08:17] Does anyone know if there is a better program for adding printers than the one supplied default with 11.10 ? cause i cant add a network printer by any alias or Ip. [08:17] kriss, search for a program and check them out [08:18] try apt-cache search printer [08:18] hey guys. my wireless is 'unchecked' according to networkmanager, and it is greyed out. i tried iwconfig wlan0 up and iwconfig all but giggled at me. not sure how to proceed. [08:18] thanks ill try. [08:18] or in the ubuntu store try searching for network printer or just printer. [08:19] it just seems like your wireless card isnt set up right [08:20] i was shocked when mine worked, it requires a driver and i didnt have to install it [08:20] i've got issues with installing ubuntu 11.10 on a Asus N53SV. Most likely 'cause it has a Intel i7 2gen, which contains sandybrigde [08:20] regarding bcm43227 installing firmware-b43-installer i get this message This card is actually not tested. Please install the driver manually. [08:20] ah it did it again, so had to switch box [08:20] i unchecked it when my router was on the fritz. [08:21] does someone know a workaround for this? [08:21] and now I can't recheck it [08:21] Not a clue, I'm AMD. [08:21] That's all I use. [08:21] Other then my Macs of course. [08:21] ohzieandroid: does "rfkill list wifi" show it as blocked? [08:21] kk [08:21] farmer: try installing ubtuuntu server and then apt-get install ubuntu-server [08:22] someone else perhaps? [08:22] llutz sec [08:22] mmm why ubuntu server? [08:22] less pickiness on hardware. [08:23] llutz hard yes, soft no [08:23] kk but then how do I make ubuntu server a desktop machine? [08:23] oh crap I only have absoft switch [08:23] 'cause I know how to work with server, but i need is as a regular laptop ;) [08:23] farmer: aptget install ubuntu-desktop [08:23] thx [08:23] metapackage [08:23] i'll try [08:24] thanks again for the support [08:24] llutz: how do I fix a hard-block when I don't have a physical switch? [08:24] ohzieandroid: i guess "sudo rfkill unblock wifi" won't do it? [08:24] ohz are you dual installing with windows? [08:25] no haylo [08:25] llutz no :( [08:25] ohzieandroid: sry, no idea how to unblock it, if you have no FN+ at all for that. [08:25] * Satanaa is on windows right now.. ircing from the gaming rig [08:26] since ubuntu fails on me [08:26] hello [08:26] quit [08:26] exit [08:27] bye [08:27] fn + f2 is a wirless switch on some systems [08:27] ? [08:27] lo [08:27] ve [08:27] pradeep_: /quit [08:28] lol === Wicet|2 is now known as Wicet === tfilipczuk is now known as makak [08:29] hello [08:29] g'day [08:30] I'm having trouble booting my upgraded oneiric [08:30] hello everyone [08:30] I think it looks like a kernel panic but I only get to see the last 40 lines of it [08:30] 25 in fact [08:31] this is ubuntu 11.10 for me right now http://cache.gawker.com/assets/images/comment/4/2011/10/ed90c4c68750bc6ce875d0d0b9edbc5f/original.jpg [08:31] this only happens when I'm booting the new kernel 3.0, 2.6 boots fine [08:32] guys what's happening with the stupid ocelot? I just installed it on a friend's computer.. It's been a while since i have not used ubuntu since i switcehed to debian which is more mercifull with my old 9 years old laptop [08:32] gorillanoananana: got a real question ? [08:32] i am trying to set a theme on ocelot and i just realized that whomever messed around whit the them choser was a good one.. [08:32] yeah got a question [08:33] the them chooser does not read /usr/share/themes [08:33] gorillanoananana: you understand that 11.10 is using unity not gnome-2 themes [08:33] i mean it does not read the full contents [08:33] download gnome tweak tool [08:33] ikonia [08:33] ikonia, unity = gtk3/gnome3 themes [08:33] Satanaa: correct [08:33] my friend did not liked unity so i have instaled the gnome [08:33] hence why I said gnome2 [08:33] now.. [08:34] gorillanoananana: how did you install gnome [08:34] what package did you use [08:34] the problem still remains... [08:34] gorillanoananana: what package did you install to get "gnome" === Axlin_ is now known as Axlin [08:35] <]{aloz_> hi [08:35] <]{aloz_> i have a question [08:35] ikonia sudo apt-get install gnome-shell [08:36] ok, so you it's gnome shell [08:36] gorillanoananana, what version of ubuntu are your triying to do this on? [08:36] what theme file are you using (where did you get it) [08:36] <]{aloz_> has somebody skilled in c thread programming? [08:36] ]{aloz_: the guys in ##c will have [08:36] grendal-prime: the latest and the greatest [08:36] <]{aloz_> thx ikonia [08:36] how do I disable acpi in the grub console? [08:36] use lts [08:37] lts never fails [08:37] gorillanoananana: it's also a totally different product base [08:37] gorillanoananana: so use the distro you want [08:37] 11.10 or 11.04 [08:37] (10.04 sorry) === benoit__ is now known as eruytwer [08:37] <]{aloz_> ##c Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services === eruytwer is now known as benoit__ [08:37] gorillanoananana: what theme are you trying to install [08:37] <]{aloz_> ?? [08:37] 64 bit if you can..world of differnce performance wise when you get into more than 4 virtualized systems [08:37] !register | ]{aloz_ [08:37] ]{aloz_: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [08:38] ]{aloz_: #freenode can also help you with that [08:38] ikonia: I Am using the one i want.. it's for my friens.. anyway.. the thema was Human clearlooks [08:38] grendal-prime: please don't offer random stuff, he's not even said he's doing virtualization stuff [08:38] ? [08:38] it's in the /usr/share/themes [08:38] <]{aloz_> !register ]{aloz_ [08:38] gorillanoananana: is it a gnome3 or gnome2 theme ? [08:38] <]{aloz_> xD [08:38] gorillanoananana, what exactly do you want to do? [08:39] he wants it to do exactly what he tells it to lol [08:39] to select a theme and use it .. it used to be easy in ubuntu [08:39] ok [08:39] now it turns out the theme chooser does not read the whole /usr/share/themes folder .. only the approved themes [08:39] and the version you are currently using is..(please include exact version) [08:39] grendal-prime: he's said 11.10 [08:40] missed that sorry [08:40] im new to irc. quick question: why would someone leave irssi run continuously with screen ? [08:40] guys.. stand by ... i am gonna send a screen shot so you can see what i am talking about [08:40] does no one bother to download the latest stable release? [08:40] thank you :-) [08:41] haylo-bot_: what are you talking about ? he's just said he's using 11.10 [08:41] s0nee: offtopic here but: maybe he's to lazy to install a bouncer. more discussion at #ubuntu--offtopic [08:41] trying to install pptp connection manager via terminal but get error msgs and have no clue how to proceed: http://pastebin.com/5aeTW5Lv [08:41] sry i mean the long term support lol [08:41] ikonia, i dont like anything but lts.. [08:41] sounds crazy hu? [08:42] no [08:42] but the thing is..literally we have 700 machines...40 of them are not lts. [08:42] who cares ? [08:42] the topic is support discussion [08:42] no ihave four noobs all asking me how to install 11.10 when they should be using LTS [08:42] problems always come up with the non lts machines [08:42] i care.. [08:42] haylo-bot_: please don't use the term noobs [08:43] ok here's the screen shot http://i43.tinypic.com/o0szz5.png [08:43] i dont get bonuses when they dont come up [08:43] kk sry [08:43] I'd appreciate some suggestions for how to get that new kernel running [08:43] as you can see.. the theme chooser can not read the whole contents of the /usr/share/themes [08:44] looks like a screen res issue [08:44] nope [08:44] not to mention it hurts the eyes [08:44] that's because i am using high contrast [08:44] :) [08:44] the theme i mean [08:44] ya.. [08:45] sooo its not the width of the screen..your sure of that.. [08:45] positive [08:45] if you look at the screen shot you can see [08:46] hold on i missed something im scrollingup to make sure i understatnd the issue === soixantecircuits is now known as senayar [08:48] so you installed gnome-shell correct? [08:48] nope.. it just does not show them and all the themes are in /usr/share/themes they are present here.... have a look http://i41.tinypic.com/kd5xtt.png [08:48] hi. my vpn client is fortinet's forticlient. i'm using ubuntu 11.10 64 bit and the client app is 32 bit. it was working before i updated the system but in the update process it removed things. so how do i know what is missing for the file? when i try to run it ./forticlientsslvpn i get "no such file or directory" [08:49] yes i have installed gnome-shell [08:49] Please help. hopelessly stuck at the grub rescue prompt. installed alongside win7. used the live cd. all i did was shrink the 2 windows partitions, and create 2 new partitions / and /home, install ubuntu. reboot and straight to grub rescue. I have been on ubuntu, and i know it means it can't find grub.conf, but im really not sure how to fix it. now after reinstall it looks like there are 2 swaps on the disk as well. tried formatt [08:49] ing ubuntu ext4 partitions back to empty space, but it wont remove the swaps. any ideas [08:50] ya see we dont use allot of desktop apps usually if we need to i do a gnome minimal install. [08:50] why is gnome not the default for this anymore...kinda werid. [08:50] hold on. [08:51] grendal-prime: because they are targeting the tablet market.. that's why.. [08:51] grrrrr god i hate tablets [08:51] especially with unity [08:51] snowie - in Gparted or whatever you are using, right click the swap partitions and there should be an unlock button or something like that [08:52] it'll make the key symbol next to it dissappear [08:52] then you are free to delete it [08:52] jdtm: no gparted unless it's on the live CD. does the same exist in ubuntu disk utility, will look [08:53] How come ubuntu only has an ancient buggy version of openswan/xl2tp ? [08:53] hmm, would you be ok with a reinstall, like is there anything vital on your ubuntu partitions? [08:53] gorillanoananana, is there just a gnome package? [08:53] @snowie [08:54] i mean there is in lts [08:54] gnome 2 is dead [08:54] it is not available any more [08:54] bummer [08:54] grendal-prime: what do you mean? [08:54] that kinda...well definatly blows [08:54] jdtm: wth, just looked, and the linux partition doesnt show as bootable. could it be that simple, and why would that be the case [08:54] hey what about in server install? [08:55] grendal-prime: how will that fix it [08:55] just an idea [08:55] !ping [08:55] another contentless ping... sigh... [08:55] err wrong network [08:55] grendal-prime: I've asked you not to push random stuff to people [08:55] haha, im not really an expert snowie, im just going off what i've experienced. [08:55] grendal-prime: if you know it will remedy a problem, great, but just suggesting random things like "use LTS" or "use a server install" to fix a gnome 3 theme issue is not useful [08:56] i know if you wipe all of the ubuntu partitions into free space, then try to live install, itll detect windows and let you dual boot along side it. [08:56] fixing your GRUB [08:56] ok sorry gorillanoananana i apologize.. I use lts there is no problem with installing gnome in lts. this is disturbing to me in several ways as i will have to upgrade several desktops in the future that use gnome. [08:56] unless your cd is messed up [08:56] i do not know what will happen [08:56] gnome2 is dead, you should start planning for that now [08:56] jdtm: done, did not work, but then i think that's becuase i can t kill the swaps. [08:57] as far as fixing grub manually, i have no clue. [08:57] like i said, [08:57] ikonia: is better than nothing.. any sugestion is welcome.. as this is the first time it happen to see ubuntu behaving like mac and only reading the approved thems in the /usr/share/themes and ignoring the other ones [08:57] Anyone on here know how to kill swaps on hdd from live cd [08:57] Snowie: swapoff [08:57] Snowie: sudo swapoff -a [08:57] if you would like. i can assuere you that. if yo uinstall the lts version of ubuntu you will have no problem with installing gnome in that environment for now. [08:57] open up Gparted or something like it, unlock the swap drives, then try to reinstall [08:57] since we are on the subject.. [08:57] ikonia: will that remove the swaps? [08:57] gparted is on the live cd [08:58] Snowie: then you can remove swap-partition [08:58] how do i uninstall i2p? [08:58] so i can use gparted from within live-cd gui??? [08:58] grendal-prime: if you look carefull at the screenshots you will see that i have installed this ubuntu for my friend on a mac [08:58] ikonia, what should i look at doing in the future with the machien that i have..that will require gnome on them [08:58] reallly === benct_ is now known as bencty === bencty is now known as benct [08:58] grendal-prime: gnome3 [08:58] i am not user a LTS will suport mac [08:58] yes you can, but try what llutz suggested, it might be easier for you =] [08:58] btw, in the new unity, is there a shortcut to open the dashboard [08:58] an gorillanoananana do the same now? [08:59] say again grendal-prime [08:59] ? [08:59] sorry im asking ikonia what you should do now and if you can install gnome3 [08:59] no clue [08:59] so.. my friend was fed up with his mac osx .. i partitioned the disk and i have installed linux on it.. [09:00] gorillanoananana, in that situation especiallialy i would go with lts 64 bit [09:00] grendal-prime: gnome 3 is available from 11.10 onwards, start planning for it === drake01 is now known as p [09:00] what about gorillanoananana and his mac? [09:00] gorillanoananana: unless you have a reason to use 64bit eg: ram ustilisation, don't use it, keep it simple [09:00] somebody help me out [09:00] yeah.. but would i have problems with choseing the theme as well? === p is now known as Guest45978 [09:01] ikonia: the mac my friend has it is a 64 intell processor.. it REQUIRES a 64 bit [09:01] unfortunately [09:01] gorillanoananana, in lts 64 bit no..and dude ive seen that run on a mac 4 of them actually it works fine [09:01] sweet, killing them now, then attempt reinstall, and see if Grub sorts itself out. CHEERS ALL!!! :D [09:01] gorillanoananana: it doesn't REQUIRE 64bit [09:01] yeaaa [09:01] i agree with ikonia on that one [09:02] gorillanoananana, will your friend want to do any virtulization..(ie wondows) [09:02] unless you do not wanna properly use your proesso [09:02] ikonia: why should one use 32bit on 64bit-capable machines today? makes no sense at all [09:02] lol grendal-prime he hates windows more than mac [09:02] :) [09:02] also i have found that the 64 bit works much smoother [09:02] llutz_: fully agree, but from the sounds of it, there maybe issues with this users use level, so things like flash/certain network card firmwares, the touchpad may cause uneeded pain [09:03] gorillanoananana, ya but there is always something that reguires a vm [09:03] grendal-prime: no there is not [09:03] grendal-prime: please stop pushing stuff on people, if he doesn't use a vm, or doesn't need one, why are you telling him he will [09:03] like what? [09:03] * gorillanoananana is happy that i switched 3 years ago to debian.. [09:03] grendal-prime: help him with his problem, [09:04] gorillanoananana: you'll have these same problems in debian very shortly when they drop gnome2 [09:04] ikonia, dude..i ave 6 machines variing hardware that run these desktops ..i was never a proponent of 64 bit untell i had to install it..all of them run better [09:04] gorillanoananana: debian will have the same problem soon [09:04] hmz.. at least tthere i can install a icewm or openbox without any problems [09:04] truth [09:04] :) [09:04] grendal-prime: that's not what HE is doing though, so help him with HIS problem and config [09:05] problem is my firend hates icewm hates open box fluxbox he wasnt gnome [09:05] so i am pretty much... stuvk [09:05] stuck [09:05] gorillanoananana, i do not want to misslead you...in any way.. i do know the lts uses gnome just fine for now [09:05] grendal-prime: why don't you write a blog or something, if you want to share your experineces/likes/hates? THIS is the wrong place for that [09:05] gorillanoananana: xfce is gtk based, as is lxde (try them out and see) [09:05] 64 bit is up to you [09:06] i have seen it installed on macs ither way [09:06] SEVERAL of them [09:06] Is there such a thing as a terminal facebook program, irssi-style? D: [09:06] auronandace: i tried them both.. my favorite is still icewm and when i feel like going blingy i go openbox.. i am here triying to help a friend.. [09:07] for him ubuntu is the best.. [09:07] grendal-prime: you are not looking at the big picture are you? the gnome foundation has ceased support for gnome 2; they are no longer making it! that means all distributions will be forced to move on! [09:07] what... [09:07] gorillanoananana, do you want gnome to work on that machine? [09:08] ok.. is it possible the way as possible like 2 years ago to download gnome3 desktop? back in the day on ubuntu you could apt-get your way trough the whole desktop [09:08] grendal-prime: yes [09:08] that will work (for now) with lts [09:08] gorillanoananana: gnome3 is available and supported on 11.10 [09:08] yeah i am here to learn stuff not complain about gnome- no offense but there a ton of people on here [09:09] auronandace: apt-get gnome3 session or something? [09:09] !gnome3 | gorillanoananana [09:09] gorillanoananana: GNOME 3 is the desktop environment on which Unity is based. To use GNOME Shell instead of Unity, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". GNOME 3 is not supported under Natty/11.04, and may break your system if installed from alternate sources. [09:09] yea, im kinda here to read and learn from other people's issues :P [09:09] how about if i compile it and install it over? [09:10] gorillanoananana: why would you want to do that? [09:10] wait, what. [09:10] now my question is ..what is the upgrade path going to look like from 10.04 to 12.04 is this problem going to be resolved? [09:10] I hate upgrades. You should make time for clean installations. [09:11] grendal-prime: i foresee it will be ugly, but in the end gnome2 is dead and won't be supported in 12.04 [09:11] maybe i can sell him on kubuntu.. but he hates it because looks like a cheap knock off of windows === calibwam_ is now known as calibwam [09:11] because if the plan is that it is going to be smooth than i would say...go with the lts and let them work it out [09:11] them being...those people that live out there where the pizza man comes from.. [09:12] silly reasons to pick a desktop enviroment top 10 list... [09:12] Where is an appropriate place to install ZendStudio 8 on Ubuntu? [09:12] /opt [09:12] The install for ZendServer installed itself to /usr/local/zend/. Should I install ZendStudio in this directory as well? [09:12] local is commonly used [09:12] or /opt [09:12] subone, zend for php? [09:12] yes [09:13] hold on [09:14] Hello all, [09:14] weird #php is invite only? what the heck is going on around here these days [09:14] grendal-prime, trolls is happening [09:14] its like comm weridness week of some stuff [09:14] is conntrack available in 11.10? === GodfatherofEir1 is now known as godfatherofeir1 [09:14] i get beat up for...grr. nevermind [09:15] anyway. [09:15] it was not directed at you grendal-prime hehe [09:15] !info conntrack | hje841 [09:15] hje841: conntrack (source: conntrack): Program to modify the conntrack tables. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.0.0-2ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 24 kB, installed size 108 kB [09:15] wanna bet [09:15] more at that trolls make channels go +r [09:16] anyway [09:16] hje841: so yes: sudo apt-get install conntrack [09:16] auronandace: thanks [09:16] back to the weridness of gnome2 [09:16] hje841: no worries :) [09:17] grendal-prime: seriously, do you have a support question or are you here to complain? [09:18] I got into ##php just fine grendal-prime [09:18] whateever happens with ubuntu is going the wrong way.. I found out that after being out of ubuntu for like 3 years the changes that have been made are not good.. I had to manually install gdebi because the default app is useless.. i had to apt-get install my way trough in order to bring synaptic back.. which is not good [09:19] hey all, i have an external monitor connected to my ubuntu laptop. When laptop opened, i use the display manager to disable the laptop monitor and set the external monitor to a higher resolution. When closing the laptop, the monitor get mirrored autmaticly at a low solution. How can i set the display res which persists when closing the laptop? [09:19] gorillanoananana: Alright, that's your opinion. [09:19] gorillanoananana: so - thats why we have apt to select what we need [09:19] gorillanoananana: Do you have a support question? [09:19] its late im out..sorry man... gorillanoananana dude straight up...id tell ya to just insall lts for now...people hate me (life story.) thing is i use it and dont have the problems your having with 11. ok. so it will not upgrade..i have a hard time with the idea that they are not going to support the upgrade path.but you know i ve only done this linux thang for 10 years now [09:19] gorillanoananana, what you mean synaptic? Doesn't ubuntu anymore support special features of synaptic touchpad by default? [09:19] karbas_: Synaptic the package manager. [09:20] jpds, aah ok [09:20] yeah.. for the newcomers the new ubuntu might be the cats's meow.. but those o us who still remeber the old ubuntu are not that impressed withthe new one [09:20] karbas_: touchpad == synapticS [09:20] karbas_: lol [09:20] gorillanoananana: Are you impressed with GNOME 3? [09:20] but...whatever.. ubuntu i think rocks. im a bit put out tonight...things may change. my company owns some thangs that may come into play here. [09:20] wh knows [09:20] see what i mean karbas_ ?? [09:20] :) [09:20] gorillanoananana: Do you have a support question? [09:20] jpds nope it sueck [09:20] sucks [09:21] gorillanoananana: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [09:21] gorillanoananana, i am also unhappy about this new ubuntu. unity is unusable as is also gnome shell [09:21] gorillanoananana: OK, the old GNOME is _dead_, so move on [09:21] xfce4 ftw [09:21] * llutz_ suggests creating "#ubuntu-whining" [09:21] gorillanoananana, so i said apt-get install xubuntu-desktop for now... let's see what happens [09:21] llutz i like that [09:21] slash join whine [09:21] * gorillanoananana thinks llutz_ is a fanboy [09:22] or likes crack [09:22] or...ummm whats his name. [09:22] isn't whining also conversation that should be included in this channel? :) [09:22] read the topic, respect the rules period [09:22] nope [09:22] !ot [09:22] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [09:22] grendal-prime & gorillanoananana: Do you have a support question? If not can you keep offtopic discussion to #Ubuntu-offtopic [09:22] yep [09:22] wow [09:22] imout [09:22] <___> hi...can anybody help me get into tty 1? after pressing ctrl-alt-f1 my monitor shut down... [09:23] bkerensa, i have one, but you cant answer it [09:23] gnome-shell is great! [09:23] Satanaa: If you ask I'm sure someone in channel will try to assist you in resolving it [09:23] loads try :P [09:23] the ubuntu devs broek this, and none knows what to do [09:24] broke* [09:25] hi, my locale looks like this: [09:25] http://codepad.org/5ZQCAbBS [09:25] how do I change it to use en_US.UTF-8 consistently? [09:27] bkerensa: if you would have bothered to actually read above instead being so busy of pasting and copy your little script'ubuntu aproved comments' you would have notinced that i do have a support question which (big surprise) there is no solution at it because some steve jobs decided to go 'the mac way' [09:29] an easy way to solve it would be calling this channel #ubuntu-support and the offtopic channel #ubuntu hehe [09:29] gorillanoananana: your attitude is not conducive to receiving help [09:29] Satanaa:wouldn't change anything [09:29] it would [09:30] !ot | Satanaa [09:30] Satanaa: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! === Fx is now known as Guest67286 [09:30] Anyone on Ubuntu + ATI + fglrx + decent flash performance? [09:30] bkerensa please stop spamming [09:30] auronandace: from my own experience here there is no help .. people are too busy playing moderators.. I know what i am talking.. i have been with ubuntu back from number 8 version [09:30] I'm using unity (in 11.10) - is there something that can replace "System monitor" from the Gnome panels? [09:31] theres some more people on, maybe try asking your original question again? [09:31] and in this time i have seen everyting changing.. [09:31] gorillanoananana: and i have been around since dapper, you want help then please stop whining [09:31] yeah right [09:32] dddbmt: Do you mean an applet? [09:33] dddbmt: check out the indicator-applets list on askubuntu.com [09:33] bkerensa, yeah. I used to have it in my Gnome panels. With a graph showing CPU, Memory, Netowkr etc... [09:33] My netbook's name is eeeci so I can find it in my network whith eeeci.local. Now I want to multiplex a web service it offers by using virtualhost so i want that every.host.i.can.imagine.eeeci.local points to eeeci.local [09:33] dddmt: dr_willis answered before I could :) [09:33] is it possible by installing a dns to eeeci.local? [09:33] auronandace: your attitude it is not helpful.. instead of coming with solutions you paste and copy guide lines and stuff.. the question i had was simple.. why the theme choser does not read the full content of the /usr/share/themes the way it used to be... [09:34] Hi! [09:34] it is still a mistery now but i have learned that there is a place called offtopic ubuntu where i can actually ask this support question .. great [09:34] dr_willis, I asume you mean http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/list-of-application-indicators ? [09:34] bkerensa, too bad ;) thanks though! :) [09:34] ola burritos [09:34] gorillanoananana: if i knew i would tell you, but i use xfce (i've never liked gnome 2 or 3) [09:34] pidgin crashes every ~30 seconds after upgrading to Ubuntu 11.10 - any ideas why / how to fix it? [09:35] thank you auronandace [09:35] dddbmt: big list of them. many not in the repos. [09:35] Do you know of an integrated RSS notifier for Ubuntu? Something that'll just give me a notification when something new comes up and is integrated with that little mail icon on the panel [09:35] kaolc2: run it from terminal and see what it says === Mud is now known as Guest26645 [09:35] how can i uninstall i2p [09:35] Halabund, liferea works well [09:36] MeQuerSat: Good point [09:36] Halabund: To my knowledge there is not yet a indicator that does that in 11.10 although 11.04 Classic and lower had apps that did such [09:36] sombody help me out [09:36] thanks pdq bkerensa [09:37] Halabund: Anytime :) [09:37] bjkerns pls help me out [09:38] Another question: not often, but occasionally the UI of Ubuntu will freeze up completely. The mouse moves, but doesn't interact with anything, nor is anything else updated on the screen apart from the mouse cursor. How can I avoid this, and if it happens, how can I fix it? (It leads to losing all my work, i.e. is just as bad as a blue screen_ [09:38] Halabund: do you happen to be using flash when this happens? [09:39] auronandace, last time I definitely wasn't. I am not sure what triggers it. It may be related to dragging things around in gnome (drag & drop) but I'm not sure [09:39] my vpn client is fortinet's forticlient. i'm using ubuntu 11.10 64 bit and the client app is 32 bit. it was working before i updated the system but in the update process it removed things. so how do i know what libraries are missing for the file? [09:39] stephni: In Terminal sudo apt-add-repository ppa:i2p-maintainers/i2p && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install i2p [09:40] i think he was looking to uninstall it. [09:40] Halabund: ok, i was thinking of a seperate problem, sorry [09:40] i want to uninstall not install [09:41] Halabund: try logging in from Ubuntu 2D [09:41] how did you install it? should probably be able to just delete the folder from where you installed it from [09:41] how to open an .iso file [09:41] 7zip says unable to archieve [09:42] iso is an image file, burn it to a cd or mount it with some sort of iso mounting tool [09:42] cd image* [09:42] !iso | rabbi1 [09:42] rabbi1: To mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning. [09:42] jdtm: thanks, but its full of tutorials [09:43] if I am connected trhough ssh to a server , can I copy files from my pc to that terminal trough the shell? [09:43] linux can mount iso's without a program? didnt know hah [09:43] learnin everyday [09:43] i wanna read htdp book available at http://www.htdp.org/ offline how to do this plzz explain me [09:43] bkerensa, do you know what i can do to fix my "screensaver" ? when my monitor "turns off" when idle.. i have to either go to standby and wake it up again or reboot it to get back to the desktop [09:44] !scp | VictorCL [09:44] VictorCL: scp is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/ [09:44] jdtm: how can that be done? [09:45] sskniranjan: this? http://www.htdp.org/2003-09-26/Book/curriculum-Z-H-1.html#node_toc_start [09:46] Satanaa: Is it possible you have your power settings set to suspend after a period of time and spin down your harddrives? [09:46] Hi, does the ubuntu live CD in 'try it' mode run 3d accellerated? [09:46] like does it use Nvidia drivers if you have a nvidia card? [09:46] rabbi1, 'furious iso mount' is good, easy to use gui [09:46] VictorCL: if you do ControlMaster Yey and set ControlPath you can even use the same ssh connection for scp because ssh supports multiple streams [09:46] rabbil, sudo mount -o loop [09:46] will check it out [09:46] nachos: i think so yes [09:46] *furius :P [09:46] at least thats what the ubottu said [09:46] bkerensa, well the hdd's are running.. i can hear sounds from the desktop [09:47] how can i make certain? what kernel modules should i look for auronandace [09:47] nacho [09:47] nahco [09:47] but it may be easier with a gui, so try pdq's suggestion too [09:47] and i cant even disable it, it does it anyways [09:47] nachos: nvidia [09:47] jdtm i wanna read that book offline how to download that [09:47] ok, so still stuck at grub rescue prompt. after asking ubuntu live cd to install alongside win 7, it has used one block of free space and not the other. anyways, is there anyone who could give me some solid advice or reading on what to do from here. i nned to keep my win 7 partitions at least, and i also must have ubuntu. anyone? [09:47] ohhh [09:47] auronandace: not there... ? [09:47] ola nacho [09:47] no [09:47] lsmod | grep nvidia [09:47] hmm [09:47] live cd did not have nvudia drivers last i looked. used neovu drivers [09:48] nachos: can you show us the full output of lsmod please?' [09:48] after upgrading to 11.10, there's a rather annoying but with perl and snmp -> http://pastebin.com/ee5x6pUh [09:48] pdq: acetoneISO gives me error [09:48] dr_willis: oh [09:48] uh, im on my mac, whats a irc client that comes in try it mode auronandace [09:48] Error, could not mount image, [09:48] semms like it's a common problem, but a problem there isn't a fix for.. anyone has a suggestion as how to fix this? [09:48] noveau i cannever spell it right [09:48] Satanaa: Well likely your still set to suspend and there has been issues since 11.04 with Ubuntu not resuming well [09:49] not possible to mount multi-sector images ... ???????? [09:49] dr_willis: nor can i :) [09:49] bkerensa, happend when i installed 11.10 [09:49] whats the damn word for friend that sounds like nacho?? [09:49] nachos: sorry, i don't use macs [09:49] sorry, sri krishna, no clue. [09:49] if this has been going on since 11.04, the devs should stop whatever they are doing and fix this [09:49] Mr_Placid: muchacho? [09:49] loads of people have this issue, but no fixes around [09:49] yes!!1 [09:49] Satanaa: Does it happen everytime or just sometimes? [09:49] haha [09:49] Satanaa, do you have an ati card? [09:50] thank you tolecnal!!! [09:50] lol [09:50] bkerensa, every single time [09:50] Mr_Placid: you're welcome :) [09:50] any body help me [09:50] racho, no [09:50] used to say that all the time [09:50] intel [09:50] and it was slipping my mind [09:50] haylo-bot_, thanks for the walkthrough installing ubuntu. :) [09:50] plzz [09:50] its a hp mini 1000.. everything works out of the box on ubuntu [09:50] or is supposed to [09:50] Satanaa: The devs have hundreds of bugs to deal with and planning for 12.04.... Its often up to a maintainer to handle this and your welcome to submit a bug [09:50] rabbi1, i dunno nothing bout multi-sector iso, but acetoneiso working fine here :] [09:50] I know it's stupid [09:50] dont care [09:50] got kinda unvalid with 11.10 hehe [09:51] Ola Muchacho [09:51] bkerensa, they need to ignore 12.04 and fix "stable" [09:51] yes [09:51] anyone got any help for stuck at grub prompt. i know others here are having real problems, but i have an unbootable system except for live cd. could do with some kind advice [09:51] thats it [09:51] i figured out whats wrong with me uninstalling i2p is cos is not marked as executable so how should i do it [09:51] Snowie, what's the error msg or is there even a msg? [09:52] what means tolecnal? [09:52] Satanaa: As I had indicated a number of the bugs need to be addressed by package maintainers or upstream not devs [09:52] !ot | Mr_Placid [09:52] Mr_Placid: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [09:52] racho: nope, start pc, get grub rescue prompt [09:52] bkerensa, is not a package issue.. its a ubuntu issue [09:52] an* [09:52] Mr_Placid: read it backwards [09:52] aka take a package and break it and add it to the distro [09:52] stephni: You can browse to the file and right click and set permissions to allow executing [09:52] oh [09:52] lol [09:53] racho: i know that means it cant find grub, but im stuck as to how to fix it, or why it occured in the first place [09:53] Satanaa: Your turning your question into a debate so I'm not going to continue with this [09:53] !grub2 | Snowie [09:53] Snowie: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [09:53] its called replies but sure [09:53] now Ill remember your name liek I remeber muchachos [09:53] plzz anybody say me how to download the whole htdp book available @ http://www.htdp.org/. so that i could read it offline [09:53] Snowie, run ls at grub console [09:53] Snowie, and post results [09:54] burritos [09:54] not being racist just stupid in general [09:54] bkerensa, i'll just take it as a "im sorry but i cant help you, i dont know" [09:54] there's a difference [09:54] Mr_Placid: do you have a support question? [09:55] auronandace: no I heard this was a good place to troll around :D [09:55] racho: that will take time if i have to get out, write by hand, and boot this live CD. i dont beleive that will work. in the grub instructions you posted, ls is not a grub command, or am i missing something here [09:55] Ever since upgrading to 11.10 my internet has taken upwards of 20s to connect to any server. I've tested with multiple browsers and internet connections, including a 3G wireless one and the issue is definitely ubuntu. Any pointers? [09:55] Mr_Placid: i suggest you leave before someone kicks you [09:55] wuh oh [09:56] lol === Timic_ is now known as Timic [09:56] Snowie, ls is a grub command and it list all the paritions found by grub at your hdd. Also if you are dropped at "grub-rescue>" you should run "normal" to get back to regular "grub>" mode [09:56] sri krishna, im lookin. [09:57] okay thanx [09:57] how do i uninstall lmms [09:57] racho: have tried insmod normal, and the normal, no joy, does not want [09:57] racho: *then [09:58] i lost my GRUB [09:58] on dual boot of windows 7 and ubuntu [09:58] stephni: To install just sudo apt-add-repository ppa:tobydox/lmms && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install lmms [09:58] http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ [09:58] stephni: In Terminal [09:58] stephni: sudo apt-get remove --purge lmms [09:58] Snowie, a nice tool for umangling grub [09:58] linocisco: mate i just tried an install and im stuck at grub rescue, you too? [09:59] It is now always boot to windows7 === hades_ is now known as Guest99249 [09:59] linocisco: well at least it boots, different problem for me [09:59] !grub2 | linocisco [09:59] linocisco: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [09:59] Snowie, another possibility is to reinstall the grub from the live cd [10:00] racho: ok, well i know i read that, but i cant find where i read it. do you have a link [10:00] I lost GRUB . NOt after installing windows. After editing , GRUB from startup manager or CLI I didn't remember. Now it is only boot to windows 7 [10:00] racho: i think it was on official site somewhere [10:00] !grub | linocisco [10:00] linocisco: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) [10:01] linocisco: second link [10:01] hehe at least it boots to something :P lucky [10:01] is it possible to get a linux pc to turn on at a given time? [10:01] !screensaver [10:01] Bear10, if your BIOS/EFI supports "Wake on RTC alarm" [10:01] Bear10: yes, controlled by the bios or using WOL from another pc [10:01] racho: thanks mate. now i remember there are 2 links in that answer. [10:01] !screensaver | Satanaa [10:01] Bear10, or WOL works as well [10:01] ah [10:01] Snowie, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/grub-2.html#mozTocId842078 is one of the first things that google shows [10:01] but all of that isn't linux specific, it's motherboard BIOS specific [10:01] thanks [10:02] i doubt itll support it since its an old pc [10:02] Bear10, check it out, you could be surprised [10:02] I've seen wake on alarm on 10 year old machines [10:02] well then time to hook up a monitor and keyboard to the comp [10:03] :) thanks [10:03] sri krishna, i think i may have found it =] [10:04] anyone? [10:04] yes [10:04] you got me [10:04] ok thanks I would need Live CD anyway I think [10:05] lol [10:05] why did they quit? I know everything [10:06] Im just going to go mastergate [10:06] shadowgate [10:06] I am thinking that boot issues could be caused by the current live cd not setting the linux boot partition as bootable, but ima noob, and i really have no idea [10:06] nes [10:07] nope try the bios [10:07] . [10:07] grasshopper [10:08] Im not kidding [10:08] is there a way to remove icons from the unity dash home area? like i have two minecraft icons in there and only one works, so i wanna make the other dissappear at least =] [10:08] yes [10:08] Hi, is anyone able to tell me when the 3.1 kernel come through for 11.10? [10:09] irrelevant [10:09] VxQe, if i have to guess, in 12.04 [10:10] VxQe, you can compile it yourself..it is out already [10:10] no [10:10] trying to boot again after recommended boot-repair, wish me luck :) [10:10] racho: true but then you won't get support [10:11] hmm Mavrik, i set the RTC alarm to every day, hour 12 minute 8 second 00 and it didnt start up (the times are correct though) [10:11] im trying again now for 12:12:00 [10:11] 12:12 will work [10:11] how to get memory map(start and end address) of a process? [10:11] Bear10, check for 12/24hr time :) [10:11] Mr_Placid, wonder why the 12:8 didnt work [10:11] it is 24hr [10:11] its 12 PM here in Spain heh [10:12] Bear: yes [10:12] it's very mysterious [10:12] nope didnt boot up [10:12] lol [10:12] its still off [10:12] jincreator, pmap -x process [10:12] Bear: it's not off you're off [10:13] ?? [10:13] think about it [10:13] Bear10: ignore him, he's trolling [10:13] figured as much [10:13] any suggestions? [10:14] .. [10:17] no [10:17] no suggestions [10:17] get out [10:17] just kidding [10:17] :D [10:18] ok ok [10:19] where did you set the RTC alarm bios or Linux? [10:20] nothing [10:20] ok [10:20] Hello, I found this command ( find htdocs/ -type f -size +1000k -exec ls -lh {} \; | awk '{ print $9 ": " $5 }' )on Google which printing all files that large than 1MB on the server, I would like to save the result to file? what I should do? [10:21] holy crap you damn hacker [10:21] avi289: #bash might be able to help you better [10:22] Im never going outside again [10:22] Mr_Placid, sorry [10:22] did it in bios [10:22] avi289, | tee filename [10:22] just pipe it there [10:23] thats what I thought, what were we talking about? [10:23] i checked the time, the time is fine (the bios showed 12:18 PM) and in the RTC alarm i put every day, 12:20 PM but still didnt wake up [10:24] FSCK DISK 11.10 grrr.. [10:25] thinking [10:25] family friendly *nix swearing :P [10:26] #channel [10:26] something about your mainboard [10:26] Bear10, what does cat /etc/default/rcS contains [10:27] let me see [10:27] something has to be set on all the time [10:27] Bear10, also are you dual booting with windows? [10:28] racho, http://pastebin.com/M3aU2FsB [10:28] and yes i am dualbooting, but by default it boots into ubuntu server os [10:28] Im thinking there's another bios setting [10:28] to keep something on [10:28] Mr_Placid, hmm i mean in the same screen i see a power on with keyboard [10:28] and when i do that [10:28] that enables it to wake up [10:28] that one works just fine [10:29] Im just guessing [10:30] Bear10, windows requires the BIOS time to be local but you can try a little hack. change UTC=no to UTC=yes and try if it works [10:30] if i deleted my homedir and rebooted, would everything get reset? [10:30] racho what file? [10:30] /etc/default/rcS [10:30] okay trying [10:30] brb === Mud is now known as Guest63375 [10:31] Satanaa that or you X will fail [10:32] back up [10:32] Mr_Placid, so everything except X ? [10:32] never tried it [10:32] how do I add "ppa:indicator-multiload/stable-daily" to my repository? [10:32] !addppa | dddbmt [10:32] dddbmt: Since Ubuntu 9.10, a !ppa can be added using a single command « sudo add-apt-repository ppa:user/ppa-name » See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20PPAs for more details [10:33] dddbmt: bear in mind that ppas are not supported [10:33] Satanaa make sure you know how to get out of a hard situation before you try it [10:33] Mr_Placid, scratch that, tried using the guest account.. same issue [10:33] wich issue? [10:33] im more or less forced to stop using ubuntu ;/ [10:33] brb more beer [10:33] my screen blacks out [10:34] its the "screensaver" thingie [10:34] just that i cant resume [10:34] racho, no luck [10:34] auronandace, thank you! :) [10:34] i have to reboot or go standby and wake up again === school is now known as Guest80964 [10:34] dddbmt: no worries :) [10:34] brb more beer [10:34] im so pissed [10:34] about? [10:34] life [10:34] i understand that [10:35] no you don't [10:35] !language | me121th [10:35] me121th: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional. [10:35] hi do i need to open any ports to receive mail on my system? [10:35] how to downgrade python (I want to reverse: sudo ln -f /usr/bin/python3.2 /usr/bin/python)? [10:35] hello [10:35] can anyone help me with a problem? [10:35] forgot to add that im running ubuntu server and have postfix [10:35] me121th: so whats your problem? [10:35] experiMENTAL: that was a silly thing to do [10:35] my wife hates me [10:36] i have a problem.i am unable to connect to my wi fi network . it always shows disconnected. can anyone help me? [10:36] well why? [10:36] cuz i drink to much [10:36] hello everyone! i've been using xubuntu for the past 7 years, and converted so far 4 people to ubuntu LTS in the past year or so, and my 5th victim is coming up [10:36] ok Im back [10:36] me121th, that's unfortunate, but it's also not an appropriate topic for here. [10:36] and Im the oracle again [10:36] me121th: so you could stop [10:36] the question is: should i go with unity or not? [10:36] no [10:37] the problem is with the terminal [10:37] no [10:37] not [10:37] winnie666, it's worth a try. [10:37] winnie666: tell unity to beat it [10:37] your shoulds not [10:37] winnie666, run as far away as you can [10:37] drr [10:37] !ot | me121th [10:37] me121th: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [10:37] winnie666, far from perfect however. [10:37] me121th: come on man we all have to stop some time [10:37] no [10:37] winnie666: try it and see if you like it, i prefer xfce [10:37] no [10:37] whenever I open the terminal it shows as "bash: /home/rakesh/.bashrc: line 168: syntax error: unexpected end of file [10:37] i like my damn beer [10:37] do not [10:37] " [10:38] it is death [10:38] auronandace: not my fault its not as simple as that: sudo ln -f /usr/bin/python3.2 /usr/bin/python3.2 [10:38] i am sorry i just realized, i am moving over the discussion to offtopic [10:38] I'll put in in another way, ubuntu 11.10 could kill you, stress can lead to a heart attack [10:38] see [10:38] I mean awww [10:38] well the thing is that i want the latest driver support with the new kernel [10:38] Bear10, are you there? [10:38] I liked me121th [10:38] experiMENTAL: not your fault? who set python 3 to be the default? [10:38] but so far i've been putting newbies to the LTS [10:39] actually i myself use the LTS [10:39] experiMENTAL: python 3 is not backwards compatible with python 2, that is why 2 is used as default [10:39] Help please [10:39] any more questions? [10:39] while the oracle is here? [10:39] yes mine Mr_Placid [10:40] ask again [10:40] everything is shaken up [10:40] lol [10:40] its different now [10:40] auronandace: not my falut its not so easy to downgrade from python3 to python2 like upgrade from 2 to 3 ::) [10:40] Hi people!!Please help me!I'm on gnome shell and I seek a way to repair my unity desktop!!!Any ideas?I think "unity -- reset" didn't work... [10:40] How do I enable verbose text during startup and shutdown? [10:40] well when my screensaver kicks in ( blank ).. i cant resume unkless i reboot or go in standby and then resume [10:40] unless [10:41] cdavis, change splash=quiet to splash=verbose in the grub booting params [10:41] racho, yeah [10:41] i have even set the screensaver to never kick in, still does it [10:41] 10 minutes? [10:41] racho, sorry im just running back and forth between rooms [10:41] prob 10 mins [10:41] racho, it didn't work [10:41] racho: thanks [10:41] so does mine [10:41] ummm [10:41] experiMENTAL: why did you symlink python with python3? that breaks a lot in ubuntu (which relies on python2) [10:41] hold on [10:42] Mr_Placid, how do you not have the urge to beat a ubuntu dev up then? lol [10:42] Bear10, ok, does ls /sys/class/rtc/rtc0/ return a "wakefile" [10:42] patience [10:42] haha [10:42] Im thinking [10:42] hold on [10:42] wakealarm [10:42] the oracle is working [10:42] racho, it has a wakealarm [10:42] experiMENTAL, you could just install python3 from the repos [10:42] racho, however not a "wakefile" [10:42] brb, door bell [10:43] auronandace: i followed some instructions on some websides. i think i still got python2 and i had no idea that i am braking something in ubuntu. [10:43] damn screensavers always get me [10:43] Hi guys, I installed nVidia 71 on Ubuntu 10.04... manually, as they seem to be the only drivers which support my old Geforce 256... Install went fine, but said I needed to create / update my xorg file. Can anyone help me to do that please? [10:43] hold on [10:43] Bear10, well this is the thing :) [10:43] thinking [10:43] experiMENTAL, I would recommend you to aptitude reinstall python and aptitude reinstall python3 [10:43] racho, i'm all ears. please explain :) [10:43] experiMENTAL: python 3 can be installed alongside python 2, you should never just blindly follow website instructions === gs_ is now known as gs [10:44] I know everything [10:45] auronandace: will reinstall fix it? === gs is now known as gauravsaxena [10:45] you must log in as root and change the text file of configuration! [10:45] Mr_Placid, you are being vague here [10:45] experiMENTAL: i've never tried what you have so i don't know how messed up your system might be [10:46] shh [10:46] back [10:46] done thinking Mr_Placid ? [10:46] Satanaa [10:46] you must log in a root and change the text file of configuration! [10:46] Mr_Placid: root logins are not supported under ubuntu [10:47] what text file conf? [10:47] what the crap [10:47] and sudo would do [10:47] really? [10:47] hoe come a wifi card is recognized as eth1 and not wlan0? (via st6655 card) [10:47] satan anyone? [10:47] BrixSAt winmodem [10:47] Mr_Placid: sudo su [10:47] yea su [10:47] sudo su - [10:47] :P [10:47] Mr_Placid: what? [10:47] su too [10:47] WINMODEM [10:48] and then change what Mr_Placid ? [10:48] i, [10:48] um [10:48] Mr_Placid: but do i have to install remove delete what? [10:48] the text file [10:48] of configuration [10:48] ... [10:48] Mr_Placid, what conf? [10:48] Satanaa: sudo su is wrong, if you need a root terminal use sudo -i (and be careful) [10:48] Mr_Placid, we are doing something very wrong here [10:49] auronandace, been on linux for atleast 10 years auronandace [10:49] I'm just telling you what the cards tell me [10:49] Mr_Placid, what cards [10:49] hoe come a wifi card is recognized as eth1 and not wlan0? (via st6655 card) [10:49] magic cards [10:49] yrg: he is trolling [10:49] there is a text file [10:49] trolling cards prob [10:49] it is waiting for you [10:49] yrg: he's been trolling for a few hours now [10:50] wow its like a continual 12 yld brain fart...why was i interested/ === mike_ is now known as Guest15351 [10:50] grrr [10:50] hi all! [10:50] even tho him trolling, changing a conf makes sense [10:50] Im half and half [10:51] as usual [10:51] Mr_Placid: what's the issue ? [10:51] anyways this is stressing me out.. its like a puzzle of 5 billion bricks [10:51] guys, I've just installed superkaramba and added 3d clock to it. Do you have any idea, how can I view the source code of this clock widget? [10:51] ikonia: don't ask you'll get me in trouble [10:52] ask Satannaa [10:52] what trouble? [10:52] the issue [10:52] the most trouble i get in, is when i use my culture, where swearing is a normal part of the language :P [10:52] I can't improvise [10:53] ok so when working with ubunto virtmanager. and setting up vlans, who prefers the idea of just doing it all by hand with vlan vs using the funky weridness of the virtual br's that come int he package [10:53] I should be there [10:53] its not even swearing really :P [10:53] hello [10:53] guys, if you can't discuss the problem/resolutiuon without swearing, please don't discuss it in this channel [10:54] hi cousin_luigi [10:54] ya [10:54] auronandace: is there any system auto-backup in ubuntu to fix my python upgrade problem? [10:54] did you figure I would falter [10:54] ikonia, i know, but its also kinda a racist ;p [10:54] like the clouds floating away [10:54] * cousin_luigi has been encountering instability with compiz and gnome3-fallback mode: what would you check first? [10:54] but I won't dig my own grave [10:55] Satanaa: that counts as bad language, so again, if you can't discuss it without using racist/swearing/offensive conversation, don't discuss it in this channel [10:55] experiMENTAL: no, backups need to be made by the user, if you didn't set that up then there won't be any backups [10:55] ikonia, copy/paste please :) [10:55] Satanaa: what ? === timo_ is now known as Guest10300 [10:55] ikonia, me swearing hehe [10:55] Satanaa we should start a channel [10:56] Satanaa, they will banishy you im not kidding..and there will be tibunals...its awfull [10:56] anyone? How to view a source code? === michael is now known as antismap [10:56] hours: with a text editor? [10:56] hours: gedit/nano/cat/... ? [10:56] personally, I'd recommend Geany [10:56] all i said was that it was culture hehe [10:56] hi === sun is now known as Guest57437 [10:57] ok, but what if I want to find a 3d clock which is running under superkaramba? Where to find it? [10:57] I was wondering if I can set my other work space to only open one application and whenever I switch to it, it opens it automatically, is that possible on ubuntu 11.10? === Gorkyman_ is now known as Gorkyman [10:57] hey you said swearing thats like swearing lol [10:57] Mr_Placid: ok - enough now [10:57] swearing is a swear word [10:57] ok [10:57] enough. [10:58] yea [10:58] I swear by the moon and stars in the sky :P [10:58] I know [10:58] ikonia, maybe you can help me? [10:58] Im sorry [10:58] AdhamSabry: enough [10:58] lolz, it's from a song... [10:58] Satanaa: if you explain your problem I can try [10:58] okayz [10:58] I was wondering if I can set my other work space to only open one application and whenever I switch to it, it opens it automatically, is that possible on ubuntu 11.10? [10:58] AdhamSabry: I don't think so, not out of the box [10:59] * cousin_luigi has been encountering instability with compiz and gnome3-fallback mode: what would you check first? [10:59] i updated to 11.10, and now when the screensaver ( blank screen ) starts, i cant get back to my desktop unless i reboot or go to standby abd wake it up again [10:59] @ ikonia [10:59] thank you ikonia [10:59] Satanaa: is the screenserver password protected ? [10:59] ikonia, no [10:59] its even disabled right now [10:59] still kicks in [11:00] Satanaa: as a test, set it to be password protected, that way, when you move the mouse, if you get the password prompt box, you know it's picking up the trigger, if it doesn't you know you have a bug with the screensaver and it needs logging [11:00] Satanaa: are you sure its your screensaver and not your monitor? [11:01] no I have the same thing [11:01] ikonia, i have tried all that, no go [11:01] exept I just have to move a mouse or something [11:01] can i temporarely dsable a kernel module? [11:01] Satanaa: so it doesn't show you the password box ? [11:01] Hi guys, I installed nVidia 71 on Ubuntu 10.04... manually, as they seem to be the only drivers which support my old Geforce 256... Install went fine, but said I needed to create / update my xorg file. Can anyone help me to do that please? [11:01] auronandace, its a netbook, ubuntu has full controll over my monitor [11:01] -l [11:01] ikonia, it doesnt [11:01] doesnt matter if I set it to 60 minutes it's always 10 minutes [11:01] Satanaa: ok, sorry [11:01] but i can hear it [11:02] Satanaa: sounds like it's not picking up the event, worth logging a bug against it [11:02] i can hear that the desktops works [11:02] the monitor is just turned off [11:02] Satanaa: oooh really [11:02] Satanaa: what video card do you have ? [11:02] yea [11:02] intel 950 [11:02] what a butthole who is rakkesh [11:02] works in ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 [11:03] Satanaa: ok - I have a test for you, it's not nice. [11:03] this issue is only in 11.10 [11:03] * auronandace hugs ikonia: thanks! [11:03] Satanaa: can you change your xorg driver to "vesa" [11:03] ikonia, do i dare? [11:03] Satanaa: it will make your desktop look rubbish in terms of effects, but see if it happens there too [11:03] ok [11:04] Is possible to resize a ext4 partition? i have 97Gb free on hard disk and want to resize /dev/sda1. I trying with DiskUtility of live cd but cant figure out how to do it. Any tip? [11:04] Satanaa: it's not a good solution, but to me, it's a worthwhile test to eleminate some things [11:04] yea [11:05] Danielpk: the partition you are resizing can't be mounted [11:05] i just wonder why so many people have this issue, and none knows how to fix it hehe [11:05] Danielpk: to make sure of this, you could use a livecd [11:05] auronandace: it isnt mounted.. im with live cd. [11:05] Hmm.. Odd. I installed ubuntu 11.10. then i installed gnome-shell and removed unity.. then suddenly my ubuntu is edubuntu ?? sure im planing on deploying it on a school with domain and stuff but how did it become edubuntu ? [11:05] hey sorry about leaving before!can anyone help me to repair my unity I'm on gnome shell now [11:05] Danielpk: ok, can you use gparted? [11:06] auronandace: sure i can, but i cant figure out how to do it there.. so i booted live cd xD [11:06] after upgrading my ubuntu to 11.10 my grub does no longer show my debian... my boot partition is still there. any suggestions what i could do? [11:06] PintSize, sudo update-grub [11:07] Danielpk: what are you having trouble figuring out? [11:07] tried that [11:07] auronandace: With gparter when i select the partition it dont allow to resize more than actual partition size. [11:07] did not change anything [11:07] PintSize: did you try Boot-Repair ? [11:08] i tried rescatux [11:08] Danielpk: can you show a screenshot? [11:08] hey guys, how do i start up my ubuntu 11.10 in text mode???? [11:08] auronandace: sure.. hold a second.. i will boot with Gparter. [11:09] !nox | negueba [11:09] negueba: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode [11:09] Umm, what is the command to mount a windows drive? [11:09] AdhamSabry: mount [11:09] thanks man [11:10] anyone here good with adding network printer to ubuntu ?? im having a bit of a problem [11:10] AdhamSabry, if it's ubuntu, it'll detect your drives, so you can just go to Places and access it from there. Was it helpful? [11:10] !details | kriss_ [11:10] kriss_: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..." [11:10] I know, but I need to create a short cut by myself [11:11] AdhamSabry: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sdX1 /path/to/mount [11:11] AdhamSabry: replace sdX1 and /path/to/mount [11:11] hi [11:11] ubottu thanks [11:11] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [11:11] hi all [11:11] as sudo, mkdir in /mnt/sda* - so the number of your partition [11:11] thanks iceroot [11:11] :-) [11:11] mount /dev/sda* /mnt/sda* [11:11] iceroot yeah ok its ubuntu 11.10 with gnome classic - when im running the add printer app in gnome it scans for network printers and finds alot. however it just tells me what type and model it finds. i need somthing like an IP or hostname or somthing.. Since we have like 10 printers of the same type so i need to know which one im adding [11:12] any ideas about viewing a source code of a widget under superkaramba? [11:13] hours: is the widget in the repos? [11:13] auronandace: here: http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/3705/capturadetela20111027s0.png [11:13] kriss_: hm sorry dont know the gui, so i dont know if there is an option to show that kind of informations [11:13] my nvidia xserver settings show max color depth 24 while windows has 32 ??? [11:13] Danielpk: there is no space next to the partition to resize it into [11:14] auronandace: so i cant do that? [11:14] iceroot well any way to add a network printer would be nice.. at least in windows i can just type in the IP in a window and it will show the printer ready to add.. [11:14] Danielpk: you'd have to move the extended partition first [11:15] !cups | kriss_ [11:15] kriss_: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWindows [11:15] iceroot, I don't actually know, I've installed superkaramba, opened it and installed the clock widget from it's options. [11:15] kriss_: last link [11:15] iceroot thanks. [11:15] Danielpk: why do you have an extended partition with just a swap partition in it? [11:15] i'm installing ubunntu maverick on my win7 with wubi, i'm choosed 10GB size, and succesfully installed, but can i increase ubuntu space?? cz free 2GB rite now [11:15] iceroot uhmm actually its more the other way around.. the printer is connected to a windows AD server (via network). [11:15] auronandace: humm i dont know, was other person who installed. [11:16] hours: if the widget is downloaded from somewhere else i dont know how to get the source-code but on there website there should be the code === jimmy8888 is now known as evelynREAL [11:16] auronandace: how i can move the partition? [11:16] iceroot, good tip, thanks. [11:16] kriss_: hm, then samba with cups should be correct i guess [11:16] !samba | kriss_ [11:16] kriss_: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT. [11:17] hm not the ones i hoped for [11:17] Danielpk: since its just swap, you can delete it and make a new one at the other end of the disk (delete the extended partition too) [11:17] how can I add a custom icon to launcher in 10.10? [11:17] iceroot Im already having the computer connected to the domain via likewise-open [11:18] blaa just drag it there [11:18] how can I create .desktop file? [11:19] haylo-bot_ I can't drag a Zend Studio icon there, it is an java executable [11:19] a java* [11:19] iceroot isnt there just a way to see more info about a printer before adding it ?? such as IP and stuff [11:19] hi guys, is there any alternative to ffmpeg [11:19] i need a convertor to convert file for my ipod [11:19] DeVdDe? [11:20] Opps, DeVeDe? [11:20] kriss_: normally there should be "rigth click - properties" [11:20] Not sure if it converts, though, I've never used it. [11:21] ok i will try [11:21] iceroot there isnt. its too simple in the printer add in gnome3 (classic mode) you can add.. Heck even the IP shows localhost.. [11:21] kriss_: maybe because the printer is already connected with your cups? and cups is running on localhost [11:22] kriss_: have a look at http://localhost:631 [11:22] killswitchguy, You might have a look here: http://blogcritics.org/scitech/article/making-dvds-with-devede-in-linux/ [11:22] kriss_: just an idea [11:22] thanks, sidewinder [11:22] Hi, I'm a little confused with this unity/gnome thing on oneiric. I'm getting the unity-greeter, which logs me on to my xubuntu session. Which file do I have to modify to re-enable the autologin? [11:23] ikonia, i dont know why, but i have a feeling its a pm-untils issue [11:23] :D [11:24] iceroot thanks im checking it out. [11:24] Hello all [11:25] iceroot hmm when i attempt to add a printer it asks for username and password. what should i type in there ? just an account having root access ? === Timic_ is now known as Timic [11:27] Howdy ! [11:28] hmm is there anything i can run to check for ubuntu errors? [11:28] iceroot, here's what I did: I downloaded a clock file .skz and tryed to open it with gedit. It returned a "check if you're not trying to open a binary file". Nano showed some wiered signs... any ideas? [11:28] Not much a ubuntu question, but how do I mute a makefile ? [11:28] hours, its a bin [11:28] iceroot thanks.. that worked.. gotta type in the local users credencials though but it works [11:28] its like trying to open a .exe in notepad [11:28] meaning? [11:29] (I'm eager to learn) [11:29] what i said last hehe [11:29] oh, ok ... [11:29] so the question remains open ..... [11:29] a binary file is a source ( text ) that has been compiled :) [11:29] please to help me... how to make install for oovoo.exe ???? [11:29] Where can I get help about Makfile/bash-script ? [11:30] in ubuntu 9.10 [11:30] pipalo, #bash ? [11:30] I want to know how can I mute a makefile, using @ for each line is tedious. [11:30] Satanaa, yup, and that's what I wanna view.... [11:30] you cant view a bin [11:30] Cheers Satanaa, I will have a look [11:30] its just signs [11:30] unless you rev it [11:31] rev it? [11:31] something you cant do [11:31] you need the source [11:31] hours: ask the author for the source-code, its not in that file [11:31] hours: check the licence if the author must provide the sourcecode (e.g. gpl) [11:31] Charlos: 9.10 is no longer supported, and .exe are run on windows, not linux (you could try wine, but it is better to find a native alternative) [11:32] Satanna, indeed, but it's even hard to find it on the internet. [11:32] hours, its that or nothing [11:32] or you can try open it in a hex editor [11:32] install wine in Ubuntu but why slow ? [11:33] ok. Where can I find the licence? [11:33] Charlos, cuz its a windows api [11:33] not windows [11:33] yes ? [11:33] how to make ? [11:34] I am never [11:34] what? [11:34] Hi, How do I know which version of firefox was shipped with Ubuntu 10.04 by default? [11:34] Help is greatly appreciated [11:34] Charlos: what is oovoo.exe? [11:34] skype wannabe [11:34] but with video [11:35] oovoo is not very good when compared to skype [11:35] !info firefox lucid | CoH [11:35] CoH: firefox (source: firefox): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.23+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 (lucid), package size 11152 kB, installed size 30060 kB [11:35] the encoder is crappy [11:35] Satanna how to make install wine on ubuntu 9.10 ? but why slow on pc ? === Fever is now known as blauskaerm [11:35] sudo apt-get install wine [11:35] !9.10 | Charlos [11:35] Charlos: Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 29th 2011, see http://goo.gl/UUTAB for details. [11:36] bad slow yahoo messenger 10.x in wine but not work connections is failed ??? [11:36] Charlos, you can install oovoo on linux trugh wine, but you can not signin [11:36] so it simply doesnt work on linux [11:36] Satanaa: nice nick [11:36] ty Onkeltem :) [11:37] ohh [11:37] I must need install to upgrade ? [11:37] no [11:37] ohhh [11:37] you must delete oovoo.exe [11:37] install it on Windows [11:37] I know [11:37] not linux [11:37] I am here on windows xp [11:37] this is ubuntu [11:37] 0 [11:38] $ [11:38] trolling? [11:38] ok [11:38] how to install on windows ? [11:38] Charlos, doubleclick it [11:38] and now get lost.. [11:39] so... when I go new install in Ubuntu 9.10 after Imust to try update and upgrade ??? [11:39] excusa me I am deaf [11:39] You must stop trolling :) [11:39] How do you make apt use a http proxy which requires domain level authentication? [11:40] I have tried export http_proxy=http://domain\user:pass@proxy:port [11:40] Charlos: you should most likely upgrade or install the latest version of ubuntu. the one you have now is rather old. [11:40] dr_willis, dont feed the trolls :) [11:41] Satanna but ... when I click to Upgrade 10.04 LTS when finish to install Upgrade after restart but is slow bad , what a happend ? but how to make ? [11:42] that was a fast upgrade..... [11:43] Charlos: what is your primary language? [11:43] Romanian [11:43] but I am deaf [11:43] !romanian | charlos [11:43] charlos: Daca doriti ajutor sau doriti sa discutati despre Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Xubuntu, intrati pe #ubuntu-ro [11:44] Ok thnx [11:44] How come a lot of times when I switch between windows the target window refuses to be focused? I can't type anything in it but have to tab around or switch to some other workspace before getting back to the window, and then *hopefully* it accepts input. Sometimes I have to do this more than once to make it work. [11:44] auronandace: Thx for your help.. it worked fine =) [11:44] Danielpk: excellent, well done :) [11:45] so... [11:45] you can help me for new install but i want to explication... so you can try me on teamviewer, ok ? [11:46] Slartibart, same here - usually happens after a window was moved from another workspace [11:46] yrg: Do you know why it happens? [11:46] not quite as of yet [11:47] it is good to know that it is not just me, though [11:47] sigh =[ [11:47] Same here ^^ [11:47] let me search for the gnome bug tracker, they might have a workaround there [11:49] hi [11:49] hi [11:50] auronandace you can try my pc on teamviewer for you can install on my pc ? [11:50] Because I want see [11:50] has anyone tried a System76 (http://www.system76.com/) made for ubuntu laptop? [11:50] yrg: That would be nice. I don't know how to search there, but good luck anyways. [11:50] looking for reviews.. [11:51] Charlos: install what on your pc? [11:51] Slartibart, you could try asking #gnome in here, it does probably appear to be an issue not specific to ubuntu [11:51] for new install partition [11:51] Srirangan, its just a laptop with hardware supported by linux [11:51] !install | Charlos [11:51] Charlos: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [11:51] offf [11:52] !automate [11:52] Ways to automate installation of Ubuntu on multiple machines are described at https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/installation-guide/i386/automatic-install.html - See also !cloning [11:52] Satanaa, ithat's good :) how is the quality of the hardware, the build, design aesthetics ? [11:52] how to arrange all the gimp windows ? [11:52] Srirangan, its all good, the "Case" around the monitor just looks strange tho [11:53] so much waste space [11:53] Satanaa, forgive me for being ignorant, but what "case" ? [11:53] but how to make new partition... ???? [11:53] rabbi1, 'window' menu lets you dock some of them [11:53] so everything has a thumbs up, and design thumbs down [11:53] Charlos, what os are you now in? [11:54] windows xp [11:54] Srirangan, the plastic around the screen? hehe [11:54] i have cd ubuntu 9.10 [11:54] hello ... [11:54] I installed gnome-shell ... [11:54] Satanaa, anti glare? :-/ [11:54] no [11:54] but Alt+F2 not work ! [11:54] yrg u can help me ? [11:54] the edges of the screen? [11:55] Charlos, follow a guide here, https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html [11:55] lemme show you [11:55] yrg u can try teamviewer on my pc install for ubuntu 9.10 [11:55] yrg: Window menu? has nothing to dock in there [11:55] Alt + F2 in gnome-shell not work ! [11:55] rabbi1, odd, what version do you use? [11:56] 2.6.8 [11:56] yrg: [11:56] 2.6.8 [11:56] okay [11:56] Srirangan, it was this one i ment http://www.system76.com/laptops/model/lemur [11:58] lemur is the "pretty" cheap one [11:58] Hello I would like to move from specific folder only files that create between 2006 to 2010, any idea how I could do that? === p1l0t is now known as Guest57090 === Guest57090 is now known as soyo [12:02] hola, how i change the unity in login menu 11.10? === shantorn is now known as kd7jwc [12:03] i installed ubuntu server 10.04 , but after reboot it take me to grub> [12:03] i tried to reinstall it many times, set bootable flag on, but the same [12:03] any idea please ? [12:06] Hi, is there a way to disable the Ati/Amd-Graphics card? [12:07] whitenight which version? [12:07] Satanaa, any other recommendations for Ubuntu friendly laptops? [12:07] ubuntu version? [12:07] WhiteNight, Same problem, I switched to Xubuntu [12:07] yes [12:07] Srirangan: thinkpads are great [12:07] I have a script i want to add to Docky, but I need the script to auto-open in Terminal and not Notepad, how can I do this? [12:07] which app can convert .avi video to 3gp in ubuntu [12:08] Vustom: xterm -e scriptnsme [12:08] auronandace, thanks, any particular model? [12:08] use ubuntu 11.1o no problem with ati/amd graphics card [12:08] stephni : i think winff can do it [12:09] I'd like to have a longer battery life [12:09] stephni: winff. arista. ffmpeg. mencoder [12:09] dr_willis: So i'd rename it to xterm -e Proxy? [12:09] Srirangan: i've used ubuntu fine on t40, t60, t61, t510 [12:09] Vustom: no.. thats how you launch it.. [12:09] I've added '/usr/local/zend/bin' to my path in /etc/profile. I can run pear from any directory as my user, I can run pear from anywhere as root, but when using sudo I cannot run pear unless I specify he directory. I can confirm with an echo that the path is set. Any ideas? [12:09] dr_willis: I'm confused? D: [12:09] all in software center right? [12:09] dr_willis: Docky doesn't give me an option to set the launch options [12:10] a launcher tgat runs that.command [12:10] make a launcher script then [12:10] ubuntu 11.10 here? [12:10] startit.sh contains that command.. [12:11] run startit.sh [12:11] khussein78 : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 see this [12:11] I'm trying to add a gpg key with: "gpg --homedir /home/myuser/.gnupg/ -a --export C5D48334 | apt-key add -" [12:12] if running as myuser I'm getting an error that I should run as root [12:12] if running as root I'm getting a warning that the folder permissions are wrong because the same user should run the command [12:12] bencc: why not to add: sudo ? [12:12] ahh [12:13] Onkeltem: gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on homedir `/home/myuser/.gnupg/' [12:15] Onkeltem: maybe I need to run as myuser with sudo on the second part === Alex`aw is now known as BaNz [12:16] Hey all [12:17] hi [12:17] can xdg-open open a terminal? [12:22] " Satanaa, any other recommendations for Ubuntu friendly laptops?" [12:22] those would be my best guess [12:22] otherwise it just takes some research [12:23] Hi all. I need network monitor for ping single host? (something in tray). Please advice program like this?! [12:29] BluesKaj: only one host? [12:29] BluesKaj: wrong nick [12:29] hi, I don't like the new grub gnome 3 installed for me, I can return back to ubuntu 11.10's grub loader? [12:30] iceroot, ?? [12:30] BluesKaj: the other person left and i am only typing first-char TAB and so my client used your nick because the other left [12:31] AdhamSabry, yeah, just reinstall GRUB without the GNOME configuration for how it looks added on [12:31] how Polah? [12:31] I've just installed ubuntu server 10.10 on a 4GB sd-card. Current disk usage is 995MB (~25%). I'm thinking about installing the ubuntu-desktop package, but google says the minimum requirements are 16GB HDD. Is that true? Or will ubuntu-desktop fit within the remaining 3GB? [12:32] ok iceroot , np ...happens to me all the time :) [12:33] AdhamSabry, install-grub /device/name will reinstall it on the device you specify, but that might not remove the GNOME style on it. Try it with just that and then run update-grub and reboot, see if it goes to the default look. If not, back up and remove your /boot/ directory then re-run install-grub /dev/name and update-grub [12:33] BluesKaj: :) [12:33] AdhamSabry, oh, my bad. That should be grub-install, not install-grub [12:33] Hi. Is there any way to create a symlink to a ssh remote file ? [12:34] Aldus: no [12:34] Aldus: why you need something like that? [12:34] iceroot, thanks. To quick-edit it in vim [12:34] I noted, what you told me [12:34] I will try it after installing something [12:34] thank you Polah [12:35] how do i remove an application AND it's config files? [12:35] i forget the apt-? magic [12:35] purge [12:36] ty [12:36] Aldus: ssh vim file [12:36] apt-get --purge remove [12:36] Aldus: ssh user@host vim file [12:36] iceroot, no way to browse through files this way... [12:37] Aldus: sure [12:37] Aldus: with vim, it has a filebrowser [12:37] iceroot, interesting, i'll try it :) thanks [12:37] ty crizzy [12:38] Aldus: vim has everything you need. have a look at #vim [12:38] iceroot, i'm already there :) learning curve is quite high [12:41] best videos www.chc.tv === flatline is now known as Guest81227 [12:43] Is it safe to remove Ubuntu One ? [12:44] I'm unable to set Minimize effect in ccsm. Im running ubuntu 11.04. Pls help me resolve this prob. [12:45] helllo there [12:45] Halabund: i am running fine without that (but i am not using unity) [12:45] http://dev.collabshot.com/show/64c902 [12:45] i try to install sun-java5-bin on ubuntu lucid this is what i got as error : [12:46] ou qu'il n'est disponible que sur une autre source [12:46] E: Aucun paquet ne correspond au paquet sun-java5-bin [12:46] Halabund: Should be, unless you're using it. [12:46] i cant get back to pure xfce [12:46] using this http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce [12:46] i get this http://pastebin.com/YxXgWWKQ [12:47] ano.org [12:48] !fr [12:48] Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [12:48] hello anyone there ? [12:48] zetui: Hi [12:48] i don't even know what that mean ? [12:48] i try to install sun-java5-bin on ubuntu lucid this is what i got as error : [12:48] iceroot, Polah, alright, let me try then [12:48] E: Aucun paquet ne correspond au paquet sun-java5-bin [12:48] !fr [12:48] what that it mean ? [12:49] it's french [12:49] okay what that it means ? [12:50] HI [12:50] zetui: sun java is no longer packaged [12:50] Need help with XMBC [12:50] zetui: you need to manually install it [12:50] zetui: if you use english locase people might be able to help you. LANUAGE=en [12:50] Use somebody that? [12:50] !xbmc [12:50] Evilkiss: go to #xbmc-linux instead [12:50] !find xbmc [12:50] File xbmc found in anyremote-data, freevo-data, texlive-latex-extra [12:50] thanks [12:51] zetui: Try to install using Synaptic, but first add apt repository ppa:ferramroberto/java [12:52] Wilczek: that will violate the java license [12:52] Wilczek: Oracle don't want their Java product packaging [12:52] LANUAGE=en apt-get install sun-java5-bin [12:52] this one gives the same output [12:53] E: Aucun paquet ne correspond au paquet sun-java5-bin [12:53] zetui: you need to go to www.java.com and download the .bin mark it as executable and run it (copy to /opt first) [12:53] zetui: then symlink the plugin file to your browser's plugins folder [12:54] java its nothing to do with browser [12:56] zetui: it can be a browser plugin... [12:56] zetui: so, yes it can [12:57] ActionParsnip: listen in my case [12:57] there is nothing to do with browser [12:57] my question is simply why i can't install sun-java5-bin from apt ? [12:58] ok. so this is officially my worst ubuntu install experience ever. finally decided to ditch win7 and just install ubuntu... purple screen of death. know how to get arround psod to at least boot, but now, saned fails to start. been googling a good 2 hours. what is going wrong here [12:58] zetui: because its not allowed anymore to provide that package [12:58] mm i cannot halt the system: it'll remains in the terminal window without shutdown all [12:58] zetui: you have to download directly from oracle or use a download and install script [12:58] zetui: which is imo not in a package until now [12:58] zetui: no, its not packaged anymore [12:59] zetui: there is only openjdk [12:59] unmount: /run/lock not unmounted *Will now halt -- System halted. but then no shutdown happens [13:00] seems that killall is gone bad (?) [13:00] zetui: I told you it wasn't packaged literally 10 mins ago [13:00] http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=56690 [13:00] obert-: i believe HALT and SHUTDOWN are 2 very different states. google that perhaps [13:00] so the best way if i get [13:01] i have to download it from here : http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=56690 and [13:01] how can I check the return code of a script/command? [13:01] and run the script ? [13:01] bencc: #bash [13:01] bencc: echo $? [13:01] zetui: thats the only way to get sun java [13:01] Snowie: i dunno how to explain :) i made sudo halt in the shell, and the machine is not shutdowning [13:01] zetui: yes, copy it to /opt and run it using sudo [13:01] ok perfect let me check [13:02] obert-: sounds like acpi (or what it is called) is not running the poweroff-function [13:02] zetui: so is this to do with a browser? [13:02] obert-: sudo shutdown now [13:02] join #ubuntu-es [13:02] zetui: are you wanting a java plugin for firefox? [13:02] Snowie: no i cannot type in this window [13:02] no there is nothing to do with browser [13:03] i try to setup a stream server [13:03] zetui: why not using openjdk? [13:03] and the package is required for [13:03] Snowie: it is the window that appears when you halted the system:) the list of things that are killed correctly or failed [13:03] sorry eh [13:03] zetui: ah ok its a dependency to sun-java6-jdk [13:03] zetui: ahhh, its still the same package, you jut need to setup the java source to be that folder [13:03] i don't know if there is a difference between openjdk and java ? [13:03] obert-: what are you typing to make that happen? [13:04] hi can someone help with this error im trying to remove shorewall [13:04] E: shorewall: subprocess installed pre-removal script returned error exit status 1 [13:04] What is the best ident server available for Oneiric? [13:04] pls [13:04] zetui: the difference is that openjdk is free and opensource, sun-java is bad from a bad company and not free [13:04] Snowie: nothing. i'd typed during the session sudo halt and then waiting that the system will be shutdowned. [13:04] zetui: if you have the chance use openjdk instead of oracle/sun-java [13:05] meta-coder: the one you like most [13:05] obert-: sudo halt and sudo shutdown are different [13:05] let me try this [13:05] !halt [13:05] !shutdown [13:05] meta-coder: there is no single best software fr anything in any OS [13:05] iceroot, oidentd didn't work.. [13:05] openjdk is much slower [13:05] ! hatl [13:05] Snowie: i always used halt to shutdown the pc [13:05] antismap: no [13:05] anyone could help me to install java [13:05] i've got problems [13:05] yes it is ! [13:05] sun java or openJDK? [13:06] Snowie: 'stop the machine, halt' [13:06] sun java [13:06] obert-: fair enough, then im not sure. [13:06] openjdk is much slower [13:06] hehe [13:06] ansonjack: grab this http://javadl.sun.com/webapps/download/AutoDL?BundleId=56690 [13:06] how do I change the max windows when programs start to a smaller window when programs start in Ubuntu 11.10? [13:06] antismap: no and now lets stop that here [13:06] lol you were in there quicker than me proudy3 :D [13:06] ActionParsnip, what ident server from those available for Oneiric is more popular? [13:06] Snowie: thanks the same:) [13:06] :P [13:06] ansonjack: copy it to /opt and mark it as executable, then run it [13:06] with my eee pc i didn't understand why Jdownloader was so slow.. changing to sun java fixed the problem [13:06] meta-coder: no idea, why is popular a thing? [13:07] meta-coder: if arora was 'more popular' than firefox, would you switch browser? [13:07] meta-coder: http://popcon.ubuntu.com [13:07] uh.. need help also. ive got a i3-2310 and intel HD3000 (thinkpad x220) - using ubuntu 11.10 (xubuntu design) - trying 2 play minecraft, which runs smoothly bu Ive got some rly annoying graphic bugs :( [13:07] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/51/bildschirmfotoam2011102.png/ [13:07] antismap: and because of that you say that openjdk is slower then sun-java. [13:07] antismap: because of one app [13:07] ActionParsnip, :) just trying know about the available identd server choices.. [13:08] no several apps actually [13:08] with the eee pc you feel directly the difference [13:08] anyone can help me? :p [13:08] try with an old computer you'll see [13:08] antismap: working fine here on eeepc 901 [13:08] ansonjack: you can then symlink the plugin file to your browser's plugins folder [13:08] did you try with sun java also ? [13:08] antismap: I use fatrat, works well [13:08] how can I hibernate? [13:08] antismap: biggest difference is that i am using free software, no other difference noticed here [13:09] ah on eclipse also it helped a lot [13:09] I tried using ubuntu for a while again, but something serious comes up every time. Right now I was browsing some PDFs and started reading one using the builtin viewer, all using the keyboard. Now I find that the touchpad is completely non-functional, and I cannot move the mouse pointer. How do I get out of such glitches? [13:09] ok, so it looks like purple screen of death and saned errors might be caused by bad drivers. how can i install radeon 97XX drivers from CLI??? [13:10] - [13:10] i mean ok maybe the particular version of openjdk that i had at this time sucked, who knows [13:10] As I'm writing now, it's impossible to move the mouse. [13:10] !ati | Snowie [13:10] Snowie: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [13:11] iceroot: thanks mate [13:11] - [13:11] cd etc [13:11] ? lol wrong place [13:12] I just don't understand how people can seriously use this. Something like this happens every second day on average. [13:12] Ubuntu 11.04 froze at the startup splash screen thing (plymouth, i think) [13:12] I've managed to start it up via the recovery option in grub [13:12] Halabund: unload then reload the mouse module, may help [13:12] not normally Halabund [13:12] and if the stability of Ubuntu really bothers you, try Debian [13:13] ActionParsnip, can you point me to some place where I can learn how to do that? [13:13] krenair: did you encrypt the home folder on install? [13:13] and Halabund, worse comes to worst, ActionParsnip is here [13:13] ActionParsnip, done.! ident server up and responding.. [13:13] cypha It's not that I don't want to use it, I just really wish it worked, and I can't understand why I'm the only one cursed with all this nonsense .... [13:13] ph4nt0m_, I think I did, yeah [13:14] ok reinstall without encrypt see if it works [13:14] reinstall? [13:14] are you serious? [13:14] I can see all my files in my home directory from here [13:14] Halabund, I thought it was just me too. But really it's cuz I like to tinker a lot [13:14] it happened to me on ine too then encrypt when you start up [13:14] I just can't boot normally [13:14] when you break stuff you learn [13:14] this isn't a new install of ubuntu [13:14] I've had it for a while [13:14] sorry my bad [13:14] and it was booting fine until today [13:15] i assumed [13:15] seems no one can help me [13:15] iceroot: so if my card isnt listed as supported by ati, and the included driver on the 11.10 live cd doesnt work.... omg, am i cooked??? [13:15] whats wrong shawnrisk? [13:15] why you ask me to download in /opt ? ActionParsnip [13:15] Hi. I'm trying to do a full install of ubuntu from boot. My screen turns purple, but I don't see a logo or anything and it just hangs there. What am I doing wrong? [13:15] Halabund: try: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 3; sudo modprobe psmouse [13:16] ph4nt0m_: how do I change the max windows when programs start to a smaller window when programs start in Ubuntu 11.10? === root is now known as Guest68286 [13:16] crittope: what GPU do you use? [13:16] hello i have a problem. when i use php with mod_php it runs fine but when i use cgi with suexec it gives me 500 internal server error. im running ubuntu server 11.10 with webmin/virtualmin any help would be appreciated [13:16] I have an nvidia mobile video card.. it's a new weird one [13:16] Ubuntu 11.04 is freezing while plymouth is running. it just doesn't do anything [13:16] with a button switch [13:17] meh, i'll give it another go [13:17] sorry i dont know shawnrisk [13:17] im limited myself [13:18] crittope: i am struggling with the same thing, as well as other issues. google for purple screen of death ubuntu gave some advice [13:18] ph4nt0m_: limited how? [13:18] ActionParsnip: I have NVIDIA GeForce GT 425M [13:19] crittope: add the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1 [13:19] jargon and knowledge base [13:19] ph4nt0m_: okay [13:19] i only know so much as im learning myself [13:19] :) [13:20] ActionParsnip, what's the preferred way to Hibernate? [13:20] I hear the hibernate package is not recommended [13:21] ActionParsnip: I'm pretty new.. how do I add a boot option? [13:22] nevermind, got it booting again ^^ [13:22] cypha: possibly: sudo acpitool -S #hibernate [13:22] !nomodeset | crittope [13:22] crittope: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [13:22] crittope: same as that, just add the different option [13:23] im trying to uninstall shorewall and it wont when i do it tells me to goto var/log/shorewall [13:23] when i goto var it says permission denied in sudo [13:24] ph4nt0m_, are you using /var/log? [13:24] honestly i dont know [13:24] im not in its directory if thats what you mean [13:24] Any method to have gtk themes in 11.10 other than having installed gnome-shell? [13:24] Any method to have gtk themes in 11.10 other than having installed gnome-shell? [13:24] ph4nt0m_, "cd /var/log" then "ls" and you should see shorewall as either a file or directory [13:25] sorry for that [13:25] ok brb === lone is now known as Lonewlf === Lonewlf is now known as lone [13:25] ActionParsnip, it switched to a console window and then just came back === lone is now known as lnwlf2007 [13:25] cypha: all I did was websearch. I don't use hibernate or junk like tht [13:25] I've got an interesting one [13:26] I've solved it with a reboot previously [13:26] commands are silently failing [13:26] ActionParsnip, why's it junk? [13:26] saving the state is useful [13:26] Hello [13:26] like you type 'ls' and it just takes you back to a prompt [13:26] or top [13:26] and the same [13:26] cypha: i web browse and chat. so it's of zero value to me [13:26] no error message, no core dump [13:26] ah ok [13:26] If i want themeing support in ubuntu, do i file it as bug in launchpad? [13:27] or is there a feature request mechanism? [13:27] Im a newbie and could really use some help with making a hack, could anyone help me? [13:27] X-tonic: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com is a feature request page [13:27] Panda662: a hack? [13:27] Or am I in the wrong place for that [13:27] X-tonic: bug is correct [13:27] Yes I'd like to make a hack for the sim social on facebook [13:27] Panda662: explain what you mean [13:28] X-tonic: there is a tag for "feature request" or "higher version" and so on [13:28] ActionParsnip: When I boot up and get to t he purple screen I'm presented with the logo at the bottom, but I'm unable to hit a key.. it locks up at that point before I can do anything. [13:28] !bootoption | crittope [13:28] crittope: For a list and explanation on some of the boot options, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions See also !nomodeset. [13:28] X-tonic: but inside a stable-release its not common to put something new in it [13:28] j [13:28] X-tonic: guess 12.04 should be the target for the bug [13:28] I'd like to be able to get free coins and such and would like some help on making a program which could do that [13:28] how to identify if a connected wireless is secure through commandline in ubuntu? [13:29] ActionParsnip, well, how about when I choose "Shutdown" the computer doesn't shutdown on its own [13:29] iceroot: K. thanks will to that. [13:29] Panda662: ? [13:29] I have to still hit the power button again after it sits there at the console [13:29] Well could I use cheat engine or would that not work? [13:29] anandvenkat4: nm-tool [13:29] Panda662: what are you talking about? [13:29] Panda662: what is your target? [13:30] Panda662: how is this ubuntu related? [13:30] Do you use facebook? [13:30] !ot | Panda662 [13:30] Panda662: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [13:30] To be honest I don't even know what ubutu is... could anyone direct me to a chat room where I could get some help from programmers? === jason is now known as jasef [13:31] Panda662: ubuntu.com will explain what ubuntu is [13:31] Panda662: in what language of coding? [13:31] *ubuntu [13:31] !ubuntu | Panda662 [13:31] Panda662: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com [13:31] Preferably a beginners language [13:31] Panda662: i'd go to ##programming [13:31] panda662: check out ubuntu.com/tour [13:32] Thank you :) I'll be on my way now ^_^ [13:32] Panda662: if your ability is THAT then you have several years before you get anywhere near good enough to 'hack' anything [13:32] Hey... I have an Ubuntu 11.10 server that I'm trying to set up UnrealIRCd on, and I was wondering about the builtin 'irc' user, should I be using that or should I make a new one? [13:32] Erm, 10.04 server. Dunno how I made that typo [13:33] I'm using reprepro for a local apt repository [13:34] I've updated sources with: deb file:/var/packages stable main [13:34] zykotick9: i deleted the shorewall directory in etc to remove the program but it still shows up in synaptics with an error [13:34] when running apt-get update I'm getting: W: Failed to fetch file:/var/packages/dists/stable/InRelease Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i386/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) [13:34] hi [13:34] it worked with ubuntu 11.04 but not with 11.10 [13:34] ph4nt0m_: that isn't how you remove programs [13:35] bencc: create the Packages files [13:35] bit of a problem: i can't enable webcam on flash applications like chatroulette: i can't set "allow": http://www.mydigitallife.info/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/flash-advanced-settings.JPG [13:35] auronandance:yes i tried synaptic first then deleted in etc [13:35] bencc: apt-ftparchive is your friend [13:35] iceroot: what Packages files? I only have amd64 bianry package [13:35] but it still shows up in synaptic =/ [13:36] bencc: repos are working with a file called Packages (and Packages.gz) from that file "apt-get update" is reading the content from the repo [13:36] shp: does it show in cheese? [13:36] in cheese? [13:36] iceroot: I'm already using reprepro and it worked with 11.04. it complains about missing i-386 although the package is only for 64 [13:36] ph4nt0m_: /etc is for config files, you don't go around deleting directories to remove a package [13:36] !info cheese | shp [13:36] shp: cheese (source: cheese): tool to take pictures and videos from your webcam. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.2.0-0ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 45 kB, installed size 320 kB [13:36] bencc: and i told you what the problem is and what tool will fix it [13:37] liveCD mod, anyone know of a way to disable access to the internal HDD. Can't really explain why anyone would want to do this. But, [13:37] bencc: you need a correct Packages, nothing else, apt-get update is ONLY locking for that files, not for any deb-files [13:37] I am guessing a boot time switch passed to the kernel via grub(2). I know this can be achieved by re-compiling the kernel, I am just [13:37] trying to avoid that (time constraints). [13:37] auronandace: this the error im getting Errors were encountered while processing: [13:37] shorewall [13:37] E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) [13:37] yes ActionParsnip [13:37] webcam and micro work (mumble, system settings etc...) [13:37] shp: cool, then the cam is working and configured for the OS [13:37] it comes from flash or the browser [13:37] yes [13:37] it is [13:37] iceroot:it complains about the InRelease file, not about the Packages file [13:37] shp: which browser? [13:38] firefox and chrome both [13:38] i have tried to remove by apt-get remove but that didnt work eithe [13:38] r [13:38] flash tells me to try with internet explorer \o/ [13:38] shp: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc [13:38] shp: what is the output of: uname -m [13:38] iceroot: reprepro should generate everything for me from the incoming package folder [13:38] iceroot: that's what it is for [13:39] shp@ubuntu:~$ lsb_release -sc => oneiric [13:39] shp@ubuntu:~$ uname -m => x86_64 [13:39] I have a system on a closed network, is there a way to create a patch CD [13:39] !aptoncd | choman [13:39] choman: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline [13:40] shp: try: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so firefox [13:40] bencc: but it seems something went wrong and i dont know reprepro, i am only using apt-mirror and apt-ftparchive [13:40] shp: or: LD_PRELOAD=/usr/local/lib32/libv4l/v4l1compat.so firefox [13:40] cd [13:40] iceroot: ok. thanks [13:41] don't work ActionParsnip [13:41] I know you can boot ubuntu from a USB, but can I boot it from an MP3 player iwth a broken screen? [13:41] in fact i can't click on "allow" it's like if it was frozen [13:41] shp: do they output errors? Can you give more details than "it doesn't wo" as it helps nobody [13:41] My BIOS on a Toshiba Laptop under 1 year old does not show the flash drive in the boot choice menu [13:41] Corrytonapple: try it and you know :) [13:41] Corrytonapple: an mp3 player is essentially a usb storage device so it should work the same [13:42] Corrytonapple: if you have it attached at boot, it may show up [13:42] MonkeyDust: I did try it, and it didn't even show the MP3 player in the BIOS, even though I used the offical Create Startup Disk tools in Ubuntu on it [13:42] I heard of APTonCD, but I thought it was used for more of a restoration of installed apps. Not "patching" a system (aka, apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade [or upgrade]), true? [13:42] or is it used for both [13:42] ActionParsnip: Yes, it was attached at boot [13:43] anyone know how to stop the launcher bar from hiding when i move a window near it? new gnome seems a bit broken to me [13:43] ActionParsnip: it's the same the flash box opens (i sent you a picture) and i can't click on allow it's like if it was frozen, i can't click on allow nor on deny [13:43] !offline | choman [13:43] choman: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD [13:43] but it's not frozen because the browser and flash still works [13:43] shp: but are there any errors in the terminal> [13:44] if i want to change the settings within notify-osd....i just need to change the values in default.c within the source, correct? [13:44] Do I need some kind of special firmware for the MP3 player to boot from it? [13:44] ActionParsnip, ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/local/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored. [13:44] Corrytonapple: no, it should be just like any usb stick [13:45] ave installed mencoder now how do i convert my avi file to 3gp [13:45] auronandace: Why doesn't it show up in my BIOS, when my other flash drive does? [13:45] Corrytonapple: i don't know, bioses can be fickle and there are many usb sticks out there [13:45] This one happens to be an Emerson..... [13:45] shp: try with the 32 (2nd command I gave) [13:46] Lemme try a cable shorter than the one I am using which is like four foot long. BBL then [13:46] ubottu: yeah I will look into that. This workstation is connected only to an internal network and has no access to the regular world. So a CD/DVD with the appropriate updates is kinda what I am looking [13:46] choman: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:46] for. Next thing is a patch/repo server on the internal network and redirect apt-get update to look there. [13:47] how do i convert to 3gp with mencoder [13:47] avi to 3gp with mencoder [13:49] How to configure gnome 3 screencasting? === Mud is now known as Guest72180 [13:50] somebody help [13:51] Onkeltem: I use recordmydesktop [13:51] usr13: in gnome 3 there is some builtint mechanizm [13:51] but I don't understand how it works, how to make it record something correctly [13:51] OkropNick: Ok, well, I've yet to use it. [13:53] OkropNick: I've actually only done screencasting on my 10.04 box and I've done it on the 11.10 but only via VNC [13:53] usr13: when I pressed that shortcut which start it, gnome-shell shows nothing (record button/icon e.g.), and is restarting in 20-30 seconds. Then I find recorded file in my home. [13:53] !info xvidcap [13:53] xvidcap (source: xvidcap): Screen video capture for X. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1.1.7-0.2ubuntu12 (oneiric), package size 1145 kB, installed size 2808 kB [13:53] stephni: ask [13:53] !info istanbul [13:53] istanbul (source: istanbul): Desktop session recorder producing Ogg Theora video. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.2-8.1ubuntu1 (oneiric), package size 67 kB, installed size 612 kB [13:53] Onkeltem: try those [13:54] how can i convert avi to 3gp with mencoder [13:54] ActionParsnip: yeah, xvidcap is good, I used it before. Istanbul is what I disliked. Kazam is the best, but lacks many options [13:54] ActionParsnip: now when we have g3, just want to learn how to use it ) [13:55] Onkeltem: May be kind of like the difference between gtk-recordmydesktop and recordmydesktop, one has GUI controls and the other is just CLI [13:55] I finally upgraded to oneric yesterday. I'm on a T520 sandy bridge, and am very impressed so far [13:55] stephni: http://webnesbay.com/convert-movies-in-mobile-3gp-to-avi-in-ubuntu/ [13:55] on ubuntu server, I made a mistake removing one directory for the slapd package [13:55] so I thought I can just remove and reinstall it [13:55] BadLarry: glad you are enjoying it [13:55] usr13: thanks, I'll try it [13:55] since the configuration is wrong, but "purge -f" or "remove -f" need to have that file [13:56] ActionParsnip: thank you, I was surprised at how smooth it went [13:56] and i can't reinstall it, wtf wtf wtf :? [13:56] lem check it out [13:56] Onkeltem: Should be some documentation somewhere. What is the package name? [13:56] can't I just say "reinstall it" rewriting the original files? [13:56] BadLarry: I aways clean install personally, fewer issues :) [13:57] usr13: have no idea. It is part of gnome-shell [13:57] ActionParsnip: I may still do that, I figured I'd try an upgrade, see how it went and if it botched things, do a fresh install. Just figured I should share that the upgrade went very well [13:58] usr13: http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/CheatSheet [13:58] how know if my micro work? [13:58] usr13: there you will find all fancy things, including screencasting ) [13:59] Hi. :) I am using a wireless network. I can connect to it and access its servers using their Internet hostnames, but I can't connect to anything outside the network. I get proper `host ` responses and I can ping external servers, but the pings are a bit delayed and contain words "Redirect Host(New nexthop: ". Do you know what is the problem? === max is now known as Guest67258 [13:59] telnetting/using Firefox on port 80 fails, though. Same with e-mails. [14:00] usr13: well, the only "drawback" - it doesn't work for me LOL [14:00] Onkeltem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL1XCvj9VMA [14:00] iceroot: you were right. I asked reprepro to generate the indexes for i386 as well and it works [14:00] hi, can some1 five the equivalent of httpd - s in ubuntu please [14:01] laserbled: hmm? [14:02] laserbled: httpd is called apache2 in ubuntu. Not sure if that's your question. [14:02] jrib, the httpd -S equivalent in ubuntu ; when i give apache2 -S it says bad username [14:02] laserbled: yes, that's a consequence of how debian/ubuntu write the apache configuration [14:03] usr13: good! thank you a lot. The guy told in the video - it doesn't work )) I wonder how they are releasing stuff which doesn't work [14:03] um so what should i do - some1 asked for my httpd -s output [14:03] laserbled: apache2ctl configtest [14:03] laserbled: here, see this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apache2/+bug/259363 [14:03] Launchpad bug 259363 in apache2 (Ubuntu) "Need to source envvars before being able to use 'apache2' binary." [Wishlist,Fix released] [14:04] in /etc/samba/smb.conf is it correct to write "browsable" or "browseable" (note the 'e' in "browsEable"). Some tutorials use one versions, others another version. Is there a common typo? [14:04] jrib, oh okie, llutz thanks [14:04] Onkeltem: I think he was talking about the keyboard shrot-cut (that doesn't work). [14:05] adi_: read « man smb.conf » (they are synonymous) [14:05] my micro does not work (internal micro boost off in alsamixer but if i enable it there is a big big big noise) [14:05] usr13: exactly. He showed how to screencast using old good CLI ffmpet + convertor to WebM [14:06] ggmpeg [14:06] ffmpeg damn [14:06] Onkeltem: Oh, ok.. Well maybe so. (Maybe it doesn't work.) [14:07] Like I say, I've yet to try it. [14:08] But I've always done pretty will with recordmydesktop and/or gtk-recordmydesktop === dabukalam is now known as dabukalamm [14:09] cannot open file/device [14:09] usr13: have you tried Kazam? [14:09] no [14:10] usr13: worth to try - its good one and very easy to use, still lacking many obvious things [14:10] when I do "cd folder" I get Persmission denied ... how can I enter that folder? [14:10] sudo cd folder xD doesnt work [14:10] Hi friends! Now i'm at a grub rescue screen sadly. Error hd0,7 out of disk. I can see everything inside hd0,7 using ls . But, insmod linux gives the same error. Please help me. [14:11] can anyone suggest a tool to sketch websites, some sort of CAD like tool [14:11] VictorCL, the permissions must be at least r_x or '5' for the level that you fall into === Mira is now known as Guest53757 [14:11] incorrect: you want to use a cad tool to make a website? [14:11] VictorCL, sudo chmod 755 folder would be a good bet [14:12] VictorCL: what directory? [14:12] /var/log/httpd [14:12] VictorCL, but you don't want to remove perms that are there, so you should do an sudo ls -ald first [14:12] auronandace, like inkscape [14:12] why do flash crash when i've got this screen: http://support.anymeeting.com/images/images/Viper/Viper-Adobe-Flash-Allow-Prompt.JPG [14:12] VictorCL, chmod 755 /var/log/httpd should be fine [14:12] VictorCL: "sudo -i" then do [14:13] auronandace, i want to draw 4 boxes, say they are inputs, say oh this happens, that happens etc [14:13] GOD img going CRAZY cuz of 11.10 :'( [14:13] im* [14:13] chmod: changing permissions of `httpd': Operation not permitted [14:13] llutz: sudo -i is a no-no on this channel [14:13] lnwlf2007: you don't want to change permissions as a 1st step. it might have reasons, that they are as they are [14:13] MonkeyDust: since? [14:13] VictorCL: What exactly do you need to do with /var/log/httpd ? [14:13] MonkeyDust: Really? [14:13] usr13, see the logs [14:13] I need apache logs [14:13] php [14:14] VictorCL: sudo less /var/log/lighttpd/xxx.log [14:14] incorrect: sorry no idea [14:14] thanks auronandace [14:14] incorrect: I just got in here...you trying to draw a flowchart? [14:14] VictorCL: are you sure that's the right directory? [14:14] hello, I recently updated to 11.10 and set my user to auto-login (does not require password too). Now I can't sudo su since I have no password. Can someone give advice? [14:14] sudo -i is dangerous for non-experienced users, who may pick it up here [14:14] Idont know [14:15] I dont see anything else that can have those logs [14:15] th0r, i am currently trying to rapidly sketch out some web pages, i am using inkscape at the moment, but its a little slow [14:15] llutz, given. [14:15] VictorCL, sudo -s -H [14:15] incorrect: you might take a look at dia, I thnk it might work for you [14:15] How can I get slapd to really reinstall? /etc/ldap/schemas is consistently empty. [14:15] th0r, oh dia is even slower [14:15] VictorCL, as root can you get in there? if not then the perms are wrong for the directory period and the system can't be storing files in there [14:15] I have tried apt-get install --reinstall and dpkg -i and apt-get remove/apt-get install [14:16] VictorCL: As llutz points out, you should be able to use sudo, right? [14:16] What could be the reason why I can't drop the cache on my server? LINE1: root@production1:/proc/sys/vm# sync; echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches LINE2: bash: /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches: Permission denied [14:16] cv [14:16] but /etc/ldap/schema never comes back [14:16] will check where are the apache logs [14:16] all, except Ctrl+F1, how could I access the console? [14:16] how to change IRC channel? [14:16] alon_: /join channelname [14:16] VictorCL: Try /var/log/apache [14:17] this server doesnt have apache [14:17] has httpd [14:17] anyone here know how to sudo if user is to not require password? [14:17] anyone here know how to sudo if user SET (in gui) is to not require password? [14:17] VictorCL: ls /var/log/ === ericm|ubuntu is now known as ericm-Zzz [14:18] user13 there is only httpd that can seem to have those logs [14:18] inside /etc/httpd/logs --> have a simbolic link to /var/log/httpd/ [14:18] JOIN 10.128.0.146 [14:19] VictorCL: That doesn't make sense. [14:19] : JOIN 10.128.0.146 [14:19] VictorCL: echo $HTTPD_LOG_DIR [14:19] alon_ you need the / [14:19] alon_ it's /join [14:19] llutz returns nothing [14:19] Hi all, i'm trying to get apache php and mysql working. I tried some command lines found on the web. But nothing is working yet. [14:19] alon you need /newserver 10.128.0.146 [14:20] Now it just "downloads" the index.php as a file instead of processing it when I type localhost on the browser. [14:20] Now I just wanna remove everything related to webserver, so I can use "xampp". I guess it's easier to me. Could someone help me please? [14:20] VictorCL: aynways, either use "sudo -i" to get a root-shell and watch your logs, or use "sudo less /var/log/httpd/xxx.log" [14:21] douglas-web-dev: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1221182 [14:21] douglas-web-dev: What is it exactly you are wanting to accomplish? [14:21] douglas-web-dev: Do you have php5.conf and php5.load files in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled [14:21] ActionParsnip, thank you [14:21] how do I attached to different server? [14:22] will try , thankz [14:22] douglas-web-dev: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/installing-php5-and-apache-on-ubuntu/ [14:22] I am having trouble getting Ubuntu to recognize my printer driver. I installed the printer driver, both the LPD and the cupswrapper, from the Brother website and Ubuntu continues to recommend the generic foomatic driver. Help? [14:22] douglas-web-dev, you need to enable the php5 MOD .. or to configure any other php5 "parser"" like .. CGI or FastCGI [14:23] usr13 I tried to apt-get remove things like php5 apache 2 my-sql, and then I removed the apache2 folder from /etc [14:23] Yyharssargyhaell: Try localhost:631 in ff [14:23] douglas-web-dev, better is to use apt-get purge = delete config files too [14:23] Yyharssargyhaell: does cups offer the brother-driver? if yes, use it and ignore what it recommends [14:23] I've got about 3.5 gb of RAM on my ubuntu machine. Looking at top there are only a few percentages used by the processes. Where can I see how the rest is used? [14:24] usr13: I'm not familiar with what I should do with that. = / [14:24] llutz: Not a comparable one. [14:24] douglas-web-dev: Not sure why that would happen. [14:24] !atemyram | sandstrom [14:24] sandstrom: If you are wondering why some tools report your system has very little free memory, have a look at http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ | A short primer on Linux memory management can be found here: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/free-mem.html [14:24] spidla thank you, what is the command I should type? [14:25] Yyharssargyhaell: does "ls -l /etc/cups/ppd/" list the related ppd-file? [14:25] Yyharssargyhaell: Open Firefox, type localhost:631 in address bar, hit enter. [14:25] and yes, brother drivers suck [14:25] zykotick9: It's not used as cache/buffer either (unless I'm completely misreading the free -m output): http://pastie.org/2767915 [14:25] douglas-web-dev, I am a little bit confused about your last messages ... do you want to make the php work .. or do you want to remove the complete apache+php thing [14:26] llutz: total 0 [14:26] llutz: I've set up a couple of brother printers and they seem to have worked fine. [14:26] laser... [14:26] usr13: only those not needing brothers own drivers [14:27] llutz: Well, they ALL need drivers. [14:27] sandstrom, what is the problem exactly? your physical memory isn't full (swap is barely being used in your paste) [14:27] spidla, I wanna get my computer apache+php as it was when I installed ubuntu, without them I think. So I could restart a simple tutorial from beginning [14:27] usr13: a postscript-/pcl-printer shouldn't need any aditional driver at all [14:28] azxsd [14:29] llutz, usr13: I'm working on this once more. One moment and I will let you know how it goes. [14:29] douglas-web-dev, ok so ... remove everything by issuing ... apt-get purge apache2 ... apt-get purge libapache2* ... apt-get purge php5* [14:29] i still can't convert to 3gp see what i got=====>http://pastebin.com/8hmWFgkY [14:30] spidla, I don't understand. I removed apache2, php, mysql and other things. Even deleted apache2 folder. And yet it downloads a index.php file from and website folder and I type localhost on the browser. [14:30] spidla, I'm trying your commands now [14:30] spidla, thanks [14:30] douglas-web-dev, maybe there is still any other webserver running ... maybe apache version 1 ? [14:30] stephni: what was your exact command you used? [14:31] llutz, usr13: The localhost command worked a charm. For some reason the driver is found there; not in the system settings. =? [14:31] douglas-web-dev, you can chceck if there is any other webserver listening on port 90 by using ... netstat -pvln [14:31] douglas-web-dev, mistake ... port 80 of course [14:31] Yyharssargyhaell: its always a good idea to ignore systemtools :) better use cups-frontend directly (or lpadmin) [14:32] 3) sudo cd Desktop [14:32] mencoder yourmovie.3gp -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=msmpeg4v2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o yourmovie.avi [14:32] Thanks so much, llutz! usr13: you as well. =D [14:32] NP [14:32] zykotick9: I'm trying to figure out what's using my ram! Only running mongo database (0.12gb total data size) and nginx webserver (~1 visit / minute). I can't see how they can eat so much ram? [14:32] stephni: sure? "File not found: 'sheen.avi'" error won't fit to your command [14:32] sandstrom: htop [14:32] sandstrom: use top/htop and let it sort for memory usage [14:32] sandstrom: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ [14:33] spidla, netstat -pvln says port 80 is in a "Listen" state [14:33] I've been using Linux since 2008 and that's the first time I've ever seen that "Ate My Ram" page. Props to whoever wrote that - that's awesome [14:33] i renamed yourmovie.avi to sheen.avi [14:33] spidla, Please, what does the command purge do? [14:34] stephni: what was your exact command you used? <- what part of "exact" you don't understand? [14:34] douglas-web-dev, and what is the application name (using the port 80) ? [14:34] stephni: ls -l sheen.avi [14:34] douglas-web-dev, purge removes both the program and config files [14:34] ok [14:34] douglas-web-dev, purge is the same as remove, but it also deletes the configuration for selected package [14:35] sudo cd Desktop [14:35] mencoder sheen.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=msmpeg4v2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o sheen.3gp [14:35] zykotick9 thank you [14:35] stephni: 1st: don't use "sudo cd" , its nonsense [14:35] spidla, nice to know this === _cory is now known as _hrdcore0x1a4 [14:36] ok lem try [14:36] stephni: "cd /directory/containing/sheen.avi" [14:36] is in the desktop === alexd285 is now known as alexisd [14:36] stephni, "cd" then "cd Desktop" should work [14:36] stephni: cd ~/Desktop [14:37] stephni, llutz's is better ;) - same result though [14:37] stephni: if "ls -l sheen.avi" give some result, "mencoder sheen.avi -ovc lavc -lavcopts vcodec=msmpeg4v2 -oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=3 -o sheen.3gp" [14:38] spidla, the column name PID/Program name is not saying the program name of any port [14:38] is working [14:38] douglas-web-dev: sudo lsof -i :80 [14:38] douglas-web-dev, are you running netstat command as root ? [14:38] yayyyyy thanks [14:39] stephni: remember: whoever tells you to "sudo cd" is an idiot, don't follow him :) [14:39] ok ok [14:40] spidla, No, I forgot... As root the program name appears. it's 2626/httpd [14:41] llutz, thank you [14:42] spidla sorry, I enjoy Linux, but I'm not an expert... [14:44] is there something wrong with this tutorial: https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/serverguide/C/samba-fileserver.html ? I tried following it and I can't see the linux shares from windows xp [14:44] adi_: if you run: smbtree on the server, do you see the shares? [14:44] douglas-web-dev, httpd looks like an apache version 2 instance [14:45] douglas-web-dev, apache v1 is managed by separate package .. apache [14:45] the mb has sky rocketed from 3o mb to 93 [14:45] spidla, are you there yet? I runned apt-get purge apache2 ... apt-get purge libapache2* ... apt-get purge php5* . they removed some megabytes. [14:45] ActionParsnip: smbtree shows nothing, apparently [14:45] douglas-web-dev, good .. but there is still apache package ... try .. apt-get purge apache [14:45] (X)Ubuntu 11.10. The only working way to shut down is "sudo poweroff". "sudo reboot" and any other ways to shutdown just result in a black screen. Any ideas? The computer is Acer Aspire One Happy2. Also, the same problem was found in other distros as well. === reed__ is now known as reed [14:46] stephni: if you make a script you can use that easier :) [14:46] ok [14:46] adi_: then the shares are not right [14:46] how do i make a script [14:46] stephni: gimme a sec, i'll make one for you [14:46] douglas-web-dev, then you should have no webserver left and you can install everything from scratch [14:46] ok [14:46] ActionParsnip: I also tried configuring from various GUIs, like koomba2, smb4k or 'samba' (from ubuntu software center) [14:47] spidla, it says I can't remove virtual packages like "apache" [14:48] stephni: http://pastebin.com/bk2wAnY0 put that in a text file and mark it as executable. Call it something like make3gp and copy it to /usr/bin you can now use: make3gp file.avi and on the desktop will appear the result :) [14:48] spidla, but my computer still downloads the index.php file when I type localhost on the browser === PhantomPh|AFK is now known as PhantomPhreak53 [14:48] douglas-web-dev, try apache2 or httpd [14:48] adi_: I can give you my smb.conf if you want [14:49] I am attempting to setup Ubuntu Server 10.04 on a Dell PowerEdge 2850. [14:49] douglas-web-dev, well there is probably some other package with httpd web server [14:49] adi_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/720754/ [14:49] It has Hardward raid, do I need to install the distro just like a regular install and the hardware raid takes care of the rest? [14:49] adi_: you only need the bottom sections [14:49] douglas-web-dev, according to ubuntu package database .. httpd file may belong to package libnet-server-perl [14:49] spidle the output is, apache2: Could not open configuration file /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: No such file or directory [14:50] I tried searching on the net and everything points to software raid and not much support on Hardware raid [14:50] douglas-web-dev, the output of what command ? [14:50] spidla, it's telling httpd command was not found [14:50] spidla, just apache2.. [14:50] You meant to purge it? [14:51] PhantomPhreak53: The PERC controller works fine under Ubuntu [14:51] www.l2death.com new [Server RPG][High Five] XP/7 SP/7 Adena/ 7 Drop/ Spoil: x7Party XP/ SP: x1.5Max Safe Enchant : 3 Max Enchant : 20 [14:51] If I log off the session after all this, won't it get solved? [14:51] douglas-web-dev, you have already reinstalled the apache2 package ? [14:51] hehe yea and i just figured out that im forced to install debian on my netbook [14:51] genii-around: so do I just install ubuntu on the one hard drive like it was a normal install? [14:52] Satanaa: why forced? [14:52] No, is it like on this page? http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/installing-php5-and-apache-on-ubuntu/ [14:52] The setup only detects the one hard drive so I think the hardware raid is doing its job [14:52] PhantomPhreak53: Yes, in your bios make the raid device, then install onto it after [14:52] cuz some ubuntu dev has "broken"ubuntu so it doesnt work for me, and there is no fix what so ever [14:52] broken in 11.10 [14:53] Satanaa: what about suse, mandriva, fedora, xpud, puppy and so on? [14:53] douglas-web-dev, and you used all the commands on that page ? [14:53] those are bad [14:53] genii-around: is there a way to test the hardware raid after the setup is complete? [14:53] Satanaa: natty is still very supported, as is maverick. [14:53] Satanaa: theyaren't bad at all [14:53] i dont like old packages [14:53] so that kinda solves that part hehe === Wicet|2 is now known as Wicet [14:54] where is it appropriate to issue iptables command when starting up ubuntu? [14:54] posixnoob: /etc/network/if-up.d [14:54] spidla, no, I can try it now. The first time I did something else on some other page I can't remember. [14:54] llutz thanks [14:54] Satanaa: they work just as well.. [14:55] Satanaa: and without actually looking, you wouldn't know either [14:55] so no issues in 11.04 10.10 11.04, and broken in 11.10 [14:55] ActionParsnip, its not about me knowing hehe [14:55] douglas-web-dev, everythong is mixed for me now .. because I am not sure what packages do you actually have on the machine [14:55] Satanaa: Please file a bug if there is a broken package in Ubuntu. [14:55] PhantomPhreak53: Unfortunately it's been a while since I had ubuntu running on one of those poweredge boxes, I forget. I believe most of the work is done in hardware on them. [14:55] I don't remember the command, there was a ^ in the end of if [14:56] no matter what i do, mu screen turns off after 10 mins of idleing.. and only way to get back in is to reboot or standby/wakeup [14:56] my* [14:56] douglas-web-dev, nevermind .. i got some other idea [14:56] also, why do i have to flush iptables to get get a port forwarded? [14:56] and this is not something i just noticed.. been fighting this since the release [14:56] spidla, ok what is it? [14:56] Does anyone know how to get RID of the scrollbars and revert to the older ones?;eclipse does not like them [14:56] douglas-web-dev, try ... apt-get install --reinstall apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5 [14:57] genii-around: so just to make sure. It was previously configured for win 2003 with raid 5 (so bios should be good). I can just do the standard setup of ubuntu server and everything should be good right? [14:57] I upgrade my 9.4 ubuntu to 9.10 . but now my resolution has change . I had 1000x700 somthing like that . now I have 800x600 :( how can I fix this ? [14:57] spidla, ok [14:57] http://askubuntu.com/questions/71762/why-was-my-touchpad-soft-disabled-on-ubuntu-update [14:57] douglas-web-dev, this should reinstall all needed packages .. and it doesnt matter if they are already installed or not [14:57] wow, good question!! [14:57] I'm getting: Failed to create host name resolver: Invalid host name [14:57] that sequoia fellow, he sounds pretty sharp [14:57] what can be the problem? [14:57] what handles the ipchains rules when I set a connection to "Shared to other computers"? [14:57] ok I have to go back to 11.04 because this 11.10 is horrible ! its too buggy [14:58] PhantomPhreak53: Yep. The software just sees the raid as a single device it can install to [14:58] iptables, rather [14:58] genii-around: thanks! Be back in a bit [14:58] anyone ? [14:58] becom33, you cant right-clcik the desktop and set [14:58] ? [14:58] !mint [14:58] Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [14:59] right click and set ? [14:59] mint linux is like ubuntu + 2 apps and a new theme, so kinda supported ;P [14:59] my max resolution is 800x600 [14:59] 11.10 is kinda different tho lol [14:59] Satanaa: no. Its not supported here. period. [14:59] I had 1000x700 somthing [14:59] compdoc: [14:59] Pici, i know, buts its really just ubuntu that isent supported :P [14:59] spidla, all right I did it.. there's something else? [14:59] Satanaa: I don't know what that means. [14:59] Satanaa: It's only supported if you don't say it's Mint :P [15:00] Hey I didn't mean to start a Ubuntu vs Mint argument, I just wanted that info from the bot [15:00] douglas-web-dev, now try /etc/init.d/apache restart [15:00] douglas-web-dev, and tell me if it started correctly [15:00] Pici, it means if you install 2 apps and change your theme, your ubuntu install is technically not supported in here :P [15:00] If you ask for Ubuntu supoprt in #debian you will be sent here, but ubuntu is based on debian. Same deal [15:00] spidla, should I put apache2? [15:00] !ebox [15:00] zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04). [15:00] Satanaa: Mint uses their own repositories and is not supported by this channel. [15:00] anyone ? [15:01] oh didnt know they got that added now [15:01] so more than a theme now lol [15:01] douglas-web-dev, yeah sorry === younishd_ is now known as younishd [15:01] i'm installing ubuntu with wubi in my laptop, dual OS eith win7, can i increase my linux size???, cz i'm installing with 10GB drive [15:01] becom33: 9.10 supported ened in April, you'll need to upgrade to a supported release to receive support ehre. [15:01] it says .: 51: Can't open /etc/apache2/envvars [15:01] there's something strange, I can't do HTTP POSTs from ubuntu 10.04 [15:02] douglas-web-dev, is there an /etc/apache2 ? [15:02] can't paste code in pastebin or any other pastesite [15:02] Pici I had 9.10 . that also becoz of Resolution I installed 9.4 which I had before . it tuk the VGA and advance effects fine [15:02] I'll see here [15:02] Hello, i am running Xubuntu and i am using compiz fusion but when ever i start a new session the window decorations are missing so i have to manualy start up compiz fusion icon then i have to reload desktop to get window boarders is there a way to make it do all this automatically at start up? thankyou. [15:02] From Chrome when trying to do POSTs at pastesites Error 324 (net::ERR_EMPTY_RESPONSE): The server closed the connection without sending any data. [15:02] Pici even after I upgrade advance effects works fine . just the resolution is messed up [15:02] where are iptables' default default rules usually stored? [15:03] becom33: You said you're running 9.10, right? [15:03] spidla, yeah, it's there, but there's only one folder inside [15:03] mods-available [15:03] posixnoob: there are default rules? [15:03] Pici yes [15:03] !9.10 | becom33 [15:03] becom33: Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) was the eleventh release of Ubuntu. !End-Of-Life on April 29th 2011, see http://goo.gl/UUTAB for details. [15:03] douglas-web-dev, ok .. try ... apt-get install --reinstall apache2.2-common [15:03] and by new "session" i mean everytime i log in [15:03] SunTsu: whatever I'm having to flush out to get port forwarding to work [15:03] Pici, you seem to know stuff.. do you know where the conf for power settings are located in 11.10 ? [15:03] so u want me to install 11.10 ? but it didnt take advance effects [15:03] Shouldn't there be a Gubuntu now? [15:04] adi_: use pastebinit at cli, much easier ;) [15:04] Satanaa: It may be in /etc/udev/ , but I'm honestly not sure. [15:04] douglas-web-dev, after that try again /etc/init.d/apache2 restart [15:04] posixnoob: For me there are no iptables rules, do you see any when soing iptables -L? [15:04] Pici, thanks :) [15:04] spidla, ok, it's running.. What's the diference of using --reinstall? [15:04] X-tonic: there is [15:04] X-tonic: its a gaming distro, equally offtopic though [15:05] Is there any way to change the name of my PC? [15:05] douglas-web-dev, --reinstall replaces config files [15:05] SunTsu: does ufw's before.rules get parse even when ufw is disabled? [15:05] !hostname | spartan2276 [15:05] spartan2276: Use hostname to set the hostname, or to do it permanently: edit /etc/hosts to include BOTH the old and new hostname and then change /etc/hostname to the new one. WARNING! Make sure that your current hostname and /etc/hosts match, otherwise sudo may not work properly. [15:05] zykotick9, thank you [15:05] ActionParsnip: apparently, trying to paste other things works, just the smb.conf file hangs indefinitely :( [15:05] douglas-web-dev, it does what it says :-) .. just reinstalling the package no matter if the package is already installed or not :-) [15:06] X-tonic: sorry: http://gubuntu.sourceforge.net === J101_ is now known as J101 [15:06] douglas-web-dev, now when the apache is running properly ... is the php still downloading ? [15:07] spidla, nice :) I thought without --reinstall everything would be replaced the same way [15:07] zykotick9, will this affect Ubuntu one? [15:07] Gah! I hate 11.10 [15:07] spartan2276, i have no idea. perhaps #ubuntuone might know. [15:07] spidla, I'll see, just a sec [15:08] adi_: bizarre === pv_ is now known as J101 [15:08] Reaper: why? [15:08] ActionParsnip: even "pastebinit -i /etc/samba/smb.conf" hangs forever [15:08] because now for some reason its jacked up my graphics drivers [15:09] now I cant use my second monitor [15:09] adi_: try copying the file to $HOME and pastebin that [15:09] er not second but cant out put to a monitor [15:10] spidla, it's still downloading the php file. And the restart command still returns .: 51: Can't open /etc/apache2/envvars [15:10] Reaper: what GPU? [15:10] SunTsu: ok, I think I get it now ... I save my iptables to a file and then issue the iptables-restore command from rc.local ... [15:10] douglas-web-dev, and is there that file ? [15:10] spidla, I'm sorry for getting you busy with this... :/ [15:11] dunno, came with the laptop. acer 5100. works fine if I load into another os, and was workin fine lastnight [15:11] douglas-web-dev, thats OK but i have got only few minutes left from now [15:11] guys, are there any major problems with sandy bridge? [15:11] posixnoob: I don't know, Idon't know ufw, but you might want to say that you use that, because per default there are no iptables rules [15:11] does anybody else find that banshee is very buggy in oneiric? [15:11] Reaper: lspci | grep -i vga will say [15:11] k 1 sec [15:11] signal0, there was one [15:11] Ok, anyway I thank you a lot for your attention :) [15:12] signal0, a flaw in a chipset, but they're not in newer versions [15:12] SunTsu: exactly ... I'm going to restart my firewall to make sure it works (ei: thanks, bbl if I need anything else) [15:12] tensorpudding: is it fixed? i'll buy a new computer in the next days and cant find any good infos about sandy bridge and ubuntu 11.10 [15:12] How do i get MP3 decoder plugin for xubuntu 11.04 [15:12] The file is there. I changed the default www to a home folder [15:12] douglas-web-dev, hey ... are you using sudo with /etc/init.d/apache2 command ? [15:12] tensorpudding: so i shouldn't have any problems? [15:12] radeon xpress 200 [15:12] Before start uninstalling it [15:13] signal0, sandy bridge works fine with ubuntu, even the old ones [15:13] spidla, yes I'm using sudo [15:13] tensorpudding: cool.. thank you! [15:13] douglas-web-dev, does the /etc/apache2/envvars exist ? [15:14] and pastebinit fails with the following http://pastebin.com/THbXrAKX (which ironically can be pasted) [15:14] spidla, even if we don't get it solved now, I learnt nice comands with you :) [15:14] spidla, as I'm a very learner === Guest42559 is now known as Hiz [15:15] spidla, no, it says not found.. [15:15] hello everyone [15:15] spidla, but there's more folders now inside /etc/apache2 [15:16] I am having trouble with the new ubuntu version, every time a restart my box my sound is gone and so is my vol icon from the panel, any way in how to fix it ? [15:16] spidla, conf.d httpd.conf mods-available mods-enabled sites-available sites-enabled [15:16] douglas-web-dev, thats almost everything you need [15:17] spidla, almost? :) [15:17] (X)Ubuntu 11.10. The only working way to shut down is "sudo poweroff". "sudo reboot" and any other ways to shutdown just result in a black screen. Any ideas? The computer is Acer Aspire One Happy2. Also, the same problem was found in other distros as well. [15:17] douglas-web-dev, well envvars is probably used by apache2ctl [15:18] douglas-web-dev, envvars is part of apache2.2-common package .. so reinstalling should have replaced that [15:18] spidla, Hm.. What does that mean? [15:19] theadmin: do you have latest BIOS? [15:19] any help in how to fix the sound issue ? === nelson777 is now known as nelson777_ [15:20] spidla, I'm confused.. is there a way of putting envvars there? [15:20] I am having trouble with the new ubuntu version, every time a restart my box my sound is gone and so is my vol icon from the panel, is there any way in how to fix it [15:20] I'll reinstall it [15:21] !patience | fitus [15:21] fitus: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [15:21] douglas-web-dev, no try this [15:21] I am doing it , am serching on the forums [15:22] douglas-web-dev, apt-get purge apache2.2-common ... apt-get install --reinstall apache2.2-common libapache2-mod-php5 [15:22] strange, I'm still having to flush iptables and set the forwarding rule manually ... and whenever I restart there's a bunch of rules set that probably shouldn't be there [15:22] hello [15:23] server irc.bitgamer.su [15:23] douglas-web-dev, hopefully .. the envvars will appear ... if not .. I can send you the default version of envvars .. but it is not such a clean solution [15:23] hello, i have a ATI Radeon 7000 VE GFX-Card: $ hwinfo --gfx >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/720784/ ; $ lspci >> http://paste.ubuntu.com/720785/ . I have been incontering system-freezes(keyboard,etc..), that sometimes just disappear after a few seconds/minutes. I do not use a xorg.conf file in /etc/X11... how can i solve this Issue? [15:23] i have read that this card has DRI issues. [15:24] spidla, thank you, I'm trying running the commands [15:24] did thay make a server version of xbuntu [15:24] edwardthefma: since -server comes without X, wouldn't make sense [15:25] douglas-web-dev, anyway ... I got to go ... I pasted the original contents od envvars here http://pastebin.com/cPhAdAkW [15:25] douglas-web-dev, good luck with that.. bye [15:25] spidla, ok, thank you for everything, sincerely :) [15:25] llutz waht would you sugest i use for a 64 bit laptop with 6g [15:26] edwardthefma: whatever you like [15:26] using it as a web server [15:26] edwardthefma: debian-stable amd64 :) [15:26] i was using normal xubuntu [15:27] edwardthefma: then use ubuntu-server amd64 [15:27] ok [15:27] edwardthefma: be warned, it comes without GUI [15:27] ewwwww [15:28] anyone know how to find out the baud rate of a modem? [15:28] aprilus: old serial modem? === guampa_ is now known as guampa [15:29] hi, anyone else got problems with their icons and themes since today? mine are the default gnome ones now, must have been an update today === matt_ is now known as Guest68168 [15:29] dr_willis: no, i'm using uart to connect my modem [15:29] Does Linux mint have a channel. Think I may want to try it out. [15:30] !mint [15:30] Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org [15:30] thanx [15:30] aprilus: uart? you mean its a cell phone/network type modem? [15:30] okay, since update my mount /dev/sdb1 1.9T 1.3T 626G 67% /mnt/FTM2TB - doesnt work io error, yet it remounted it as dev/sdd1 1.9T 1.3T 626G 67% /media/Expansion Drive - any clue as to how the device would change like that? [15:31] SunTsu: do you know where the default settings would be in a situation where ubuntu is Sharing it's internet connection to ther computers? [15:31] posixnoob: for the users or system defined shares? system defined = /etc/samba/smb.conf [15:32] posixnoob: the user made shares are in /var/ i recall.. i dont have any defined right now [15:32] if in command line my spaw show 0k total. is it a problem? [15:32] dr_willis: posixnoob is talking about ufw as a firewall [15:32] swap* [15:32] some how that mount works still with my rsync backup's tho.... [15:32] very strange [15:32] anyone have any ideas? [15:32] posixnoob: as I said, I don't know ufw, and aside from that there's no default rules, AFAIK [15:33] myelick@FileServer:/mnt/FTM2TB$ ls -la ls: reading directory .: Input/output error total 0 [15:33] /var/lib/samba/usershares$ [15:33] is where user shares go,, [15:34] :) [15:34] how do I check if my wireless is supported out the box? [15:34] SunTsu: I'm getting closer ... I think there has to be some default iptables rules set for ubuntu's Shared Internet Capability to work [15:34] !hcl [15:34] For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [15:34] Lostmonk: try it in liveCD [15:34] I have it installed [15:34] dr_willis: Internet Connection Sharing, not files [15:34] dr_willis: no..it's a normal modem, i mean i'm using usb-to-serial adapter to connect my modem [15:34] but I dont know if I need to install additional drivers [15:35] Lostmonk: totally dependd on the chipset of the devicce.. some need attadional firmware files [15:35] SunTsu: also it would appear that whatever is setting the rules is running after I log in as a user (so after rc.local gets a chance to restore my saved rules) eg: this is what I get for using Ubuntu Desktop instead of Ubuntu Server [15:36] dr_willis, is there a way to download them on this laptop then transfer from a usb? [15:36] Lostmonk: should be, [15:36] Lostmonk: i just run a wire for a few min to get them === Vyas is now known as Guest98229 [15:36] dr_willis, no access to a wire [15:36] !aptoncd [15:36] APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline [15:36] Im trying to find out even if this chipset needs additional or if its an issue [15:37] Lostmonk: and the chipset is? [15:37] (X)Ubuntu 11.10. The only working way to shut down is "sudo poweroff". "sudo reboot" and any other ways to shutdown just result in a black screen. Any ideas? The computer is Acer Aspire One Happy2. Also, the same problem was found in other distros as well. [15:37] SunTsu: I might just wipe the box and start fresh with Ubuntu Server ... eg: once I'm a little more comfortable with some things. [15:37] an Intel 3945 [15:37] Lostmonk: i thought most intel were supported out of the box with no extas.. but ive never had one. :) [15:37] hehe [15:38] I know the 10.10 livecd found it [15:38] but this fresh install, I am finding nothing [15:38] Lostmonk: live cd worked. but an install dident? [15:38] I just installed 11.10 [15:38] posixnoob: does this help (part about masquerading)? https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/firewall.html [15:38] wireless shows not at all [15:38] live cd of 11.10 dident work? [15:39] sure the switch is in the on position? [15:39] nope and yes [15:39] im going to get my 11.04 cd or try the new lxde from mint. I think im done with 11.10 [15:39] ive seen some weird wireless where if you turned the switch off, you had to turn it on in windows.... :() [15:39] Lostmonk: if you run: sudo iwlist scan do you see access points? [15:39] Reaper: could install lxde in ubuntu [15:40] says interface does not support scanning [15:40] ActionParsnip: That'd be "sudo iwlist INTERFACE scan" [15:40] llutz: it might a little bit ... I guess I'm not actually using ufw here ... just trying to find a way to flush iptables and set my rule automatically when my internet connection gets shared to other computers [15:40] ActionParsnip: e.g. "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" [15:40] Lostmonk: ok then run: sudo rfkill list is the wifi blocked in any way? [15:40] ActionParsnip I would but its so buggy witht the gnome fall back. its just horrible. [15:40] neither hard or soft bloked [15:40] gnome fallback.. should be removed... [15:40] theadmin: true, a bit neater, but it may not be wlan0 could be ar0 or eth1 [15:40] ActionParsnip: Yeah, true too [15:41] Reaper: with lxde, the gnome desktop won't show its face [15:41] there are 4 perl modules i need to install. i have the url to all 4 of these on cpan, but is there an apt-get syntax that will install these for me? [15:41] It really would be nice is Ubuntu's Connection Sharing supported port forwarding right out of the box [15:41] zoned: cpan has its own tools... to use. not apt-get [15:41] hello, i upgradet from 11.04 to 11.10 and now it hangs shortly after start. how do i find out whats the problem? [15:41] ActionParsnip, neither hard or soft blocked [15:42] Lostmonk: what is the wireless interface name? wlan0 is common [15:42] zoned: they are not in the repos? [15:42] dell-wifi [15:42] zoned: unless they are in the repos. cpan is sort of impressive as what all it contains [15:42] is there any software for to build flex apps in ubuntu ? [15:42] ActionParsnip: so far gnome wont let me use the monitor connected to my laptop says the graphics are too high for the machine. will lxde fix this or should i try to reinstall 11.10 again? [15:43] dr_willis, http://gitorious.org/perl-html-parser [15:43] that's the repo [15:43] (for one of them) [15:43] Hi...can I run .rpm files in ubuntu ? [15:43] zoned: libhtml-parser-perl [15:43] ActionParsnip, dell-wifi [15:43] !alien | Amdpc [15:43] Amdpc: RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported) [15:43] Amdpc: you can convert and install them.. but its not reccomended.. [15:43] Lostmonk: no, the name from the scan [15:44] helo friends [15:44] llutz, where did you come up with that? [15:44] lo and eth0 are all thats there [15:44] zoned: "apt-cache search perl html parser" [15:44] dr_willis : How to convert them ? [15:44] !ebox [15:44] zentyal is a web-based GUI interface for administering a server. It is designed to work with Ubuntu/Debian style configuration management. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Zentyal (Project formally known as eBox - including in Lucid/10.04). [15:47] llutz, http://gitorious.org/perl-uri and http://search.cpan.org/dist/Archive-Zip/ i tried doing apt-cache search on these and got wayy too many results? === stan_ is now known as stan__ [15:47] Lostmonk: ok then run: sudo lshw -C network === stan__ is now known as stan_evr [15:48] Lostmonk: use the product line to find guides [15:48] zoned: libarchive-zip-perl liburi-query-perl [15:48] yeah, I actually just rebooted to make sure my wireless wasnt turned off in bios [15:48] hello all [15:49] zoned: not sure, but they seem to be the right ones [15:49] llutz, ... thanks. you found that just through apt-cache search?? [15:49] zoned: sure [15:50] How does ICS actually share the internet connection? I'm guessing it's all with iptables but where does it do this? [15:50] zoned: you have to check the given results and read description. in most cases you'll find the right one this way [15:50] got this dodgy laptop that has a hosed windows on it, but it wont boot usb/cd ubuntu unless I take the hd out. for some reason it gets past the purple ubuntu boot screen but then tries to access the hd and its stopping it going further. [15:50] halp! [15:50] cant start a virtual machine in virtualbox -- suggests installing dkms -- but its already installed [15:51] posixnoob: ages ago the the 'ip-masquerading howto' at tldp.org was the defacto guide.. not sure how valid it still is.. but it had a lot of the hardcore info in it., [15:51] posixnoob: it sets up the proper rules and it does it. :) [15:51] Hi friends, can we reduce the resolution of an image using gimp ... i am trying to reduce the resolution of an image .. If gimp doesn't have a an option, pls let me know any other suitable tools .... i can explore .. [15:52] avinashhm: You mean make it lower res/size? [15:52] dr_willis: unfortunately that document probably doesn't have a lot of pointers about how Ubuntu does things specifically [15:52] dr_willis, yes ..i want to lowere size [15:52] avinashhm: gimp can easially do gthat. [15:52] dr_willis, oh is it ... [15:52] the imagemagick command line tools can also. [15:53] dr_willis, i checked imagemagic .. - ithink "gm convert" can help .. [15:53] its all depending on the details. :) [15:53] oh [15:53] interesting [15:53] theres even nautilus scripts ive seen to let you convert to specific sizes [15:53] seems its not an intel wireless [15:53] LOL [15:53] huh, great now MSN isn't working [15:54] dr_willis, can i pick these scripts in any website ... ? [15:54] nothing says "your firewall isn't working the way you want it to" like MSN IM not working >.< [15:54] avinashhm: bount to be at some site.. thats where i saw them at.. [15:54] you really need a firewall posixnoob ? :) [15:54] dr_willis, i ll search ... i ll quickly check gimp .. [15:55] how would i go about getting the latest perl installation? [15:55] dr_willis: nope, just a single port to be forwarded [15:55] dr_willis, thanks ... [15:55] !info perl [15:55] perl (source: perl): Larry Wall's Practical Extraction and Report Language. In component main, is optional. Version 5.12.4-4 (oneiric), package size 3482 kB, installed size 12460 kB [15:56] not really the latest... === ThomasB2k_ is now known as ThomasB2k [15:56] is there a way for me to get a package on this laptop and take it to the other with a usb stick? [15:56] llutz: Heh, don't expect Ubuntu to be up-to-date on the basic things. I bet they still use Python 2. [15:57] Lostmonk: of course. [15:57] !info python [15:57] python (source: python-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default version). In component main, is important. Version 2.7.2-7ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 161 kB, installed size 768 kB [15:57] See, told ya xD [15:57] Lostmonk: but be sure to take all the dependencies, too [15:57] ack [15:57] LOL [15:57] !aptoncd [15:57] APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline [15:57] theadmin, ubuntu uses a very recent version of 2.7 [15:57] theadmin: i don't expect anything, i just checked [15:57] tensorpudding: Still not 3.x >.> I don't really care for python anyway === ThomasB2k is now known as Guest48275 [15:58] theadmin, python 3 is not the "latest release" [15:58] tensorpudding: Why, it is [15:58] tensorpudding: Just both the 2.x and 3.x branches are equally supported [15:58] theadmin, using python 3 to the exclusion of python 2 would break a huge amount of code [15:59] theadmin, furthermore, python 3 is available in packages, but the default is python 2, and will be for some time yet [15:59] tensorpudding: My distro provides both [15:59] !info python3 [15:59] python3 (source: python3-defaults): interactive high-level object-oriented language (default python3 version). In component main, is optional. Version 3.2.2-0ubuntu2 (oneiric), package size 30 kB, installed size 280 kB [15:59] I just had a fresh installed ubuntu and there are some strange lines in the top of the wallpaper, if I change the wallpaper they remain there [15:59] tensorpudding: Oh, I see. [16:00] I just had a fresh installed ubuntu and there are some strange lines in the top of the wallpaper, if I change the wallpaper they remain there, just bellow the panel [16:00] this isn't arch, which is willing to break userspace code by changing /usr/bin/python to python 3 [16:00] basic question : need stable site from which to download ubuntu - i've downloaded 3 versions .. none of which will install [16:01] tensorpudding: Arch isn't willing to break anything. If you want, symlink /usr/bin/python to /usr/bin/python2 and have fun. [16:01] ubidoobi2: use torrents :) [16:01] ubidoobi2: all official mirrors should be stable [16:01] ubidoobi2: ubuntu.com... [16:01] ubidoobi2: all are stable [16:01] ubidoobi2: and what ActionParsnip said [16:01] if you're worried about your ISO, check the SHA sum [16:02] must be my system that's unstable then :( .. [16:02] and compare it to the one listed on the site [16:02] i've tried everything to install ubuntu .. nothing is working .. even went and got a new hard drive .. same result [16:02] I'm using gpg and trying to create a key it says I need more bytes how can I get that? [16:02] I dont have strange and bizarre graphical errors from arch as I am for a ubuntu fresh install [16:02] How can I disable the hd from being detected during boot of livecd/liveusb? Something about it is preventing cd/usb from completing boot [16:02] datruth: I think it gains entropy from keyboard and/or mouse movements, so type like crazy and move your mouse a lot [16:02] ubidoobi2: what's not working specifically? [16:03] theadmin, maybe change boot order in the BIOS .... [16:03] ubidoobi2: and as tensorpudding said, always check your ISO's checksums before burning and using it === Guest50085 is now known as newtou [16:03] Hi, i'm trying to install ubuntu 11.10 on a HP workstation z200 with a intel i7 processor (64bit) and a nvidia quadra nvs 295 but the installation doesn't seem to work [16:04] the installation cd loads [16:04] racho: Huh? [16:04] but the installer doesn't start [16:04] SunTsu - when i get to the partitioning window .. the only time i can get drive partitions to show up is when I put in a usb stick ... nothing shows up for the actual HDD and the install will not bring me to any drive partitioning screens [16:04] theadmin: could I cat /dev/urandom for that? [16:04] (X)Ubuntu 11.10. The only working way to shut down is "sudo poweroff". "sudo reboot" and any other ways to shutdown just result in a black screen. Any ideas? The computer is Acer Aspire One Happy2. Also, the same problem was found in other distros as well. [16:04] datruth: Not sure. Actually, I think gpg --gen-keys will tell you what to do [16:05] SunTsu ... i've had others try and help me with this .. each one offering his own ideas .. but nothing works .. so it seems ... but i'm determined to get it to work lol [16:05] Hi, Im running 10.04 LTS and I get a "*** System restart required ***" message constantly, even after I restart... Any ideas as to how to look into this issue?? [16:05] Not enough random bytes available. Please do some other work to give [16:05] the OS a chance to collect more entropy! (Need 288 more bytes) [16:05] thats all I get [16:05] theadmin, in your PC BIOS there is a section which sets the order of booting devices. if you want to boot from a cd/usb make sure they come before your hdd [16:05] Hi..does anyone know how to use Remote Desktop Viewer ?? [16:05] racho: Huh, what? This has nothing to do with my question :/ [16:06] ubidoobi2: maybe your ide/sata controller is not supported, tried looking into hw compatibility? [16:06] Amdpc: If you don't know how to, don't use it and get TeamViewer :P [16:06] theadmin, and what is your problem then? [16:06] ubidoobi2: or maybe it's your sata mode, try setting it to something different [16:06] racho: See up. The system doesn't shut down properly [16:06] SunTsu - that would be over my head ... the only thing i can say about my computer is that it's 2 yrs old [16:07] how can I reinstall all installed packages of ubuntu if I think somethink is corrupted? [16:07] ubidoobi2: OK, that's old enough to be supported, so my second advice remains ;) [16:07] sata mode - what would be the options for it? ... i dont' mess with bios much as i tend to screw things up in it lol [16:07] ubidoobi2: AHCI e.g. [16:07] theadmin : I have teamviewer and I use it too..But I want to learn about Remote Desktop Viewer.. [16:07] SunTsu - it's set to IDE ... [16:08] hello friend [16:08] ubidoobi2: that should work, but if it does not, try your other options [16:08] ubidoobi2: does the ubuntu cd recognize your disks on bootup? [16:08] SunTsu - I had it set to AHCI and bad things happened ... ie .. booted and lost everything .. no mouse no keyboard and no screen! talk about flying blind on that fix [16:08] ubidoobi2, IDE means compatible mode, but AHCI enables advanced features or hard drives [16:09] or=of [16:09] SunTsu - I can boot into the ubuntu trial area no problem [16:09] ubidoobi2: sounds like something is odd about your box, then [16:09] theadmin, did you check /var/log for information when rebooting or booting [16:09] ubidoobi2: do you see your harddisks there? [16:09] SunTsu - and I also tried mint just to be sure .. and mint hangs in the same place [16:10] racho: That's what I'm wondering about, everything seems to go fine according to all the logs, it's just the system doesn't actually power off the computer for some totally unknown reason [16:10] SunTsu .. only hard disks i see from either mint or ubuntu installs are usb sticks [16:11] !rules [16:11] The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines [16:11] ubidoobi2: if you booted up, look through your dmesg for those disks, or paste your dmesg into some paste service so we can look into it [16:12] theadmin, lshw | less and look for *-firmware and post results [16:12] SunTsu - not sure how to do that .. but i'll learn :) [16:12] ubidoobi2: well, dmesg|less ;) [16:12] Hi, Im running 10.04 LTS and I always get a "System restart required" message when I log in, even after I restart. Any ideas as to where to start dealing with this issue? [16:13] can anyone help me solve a graphical problem here? it is really annoying [16:13] SunTsu .. so boot into the trial area right ? [16:13] plesa? [16:13] Weisse, whats the problem? [16:14] racho: Wait a bit, I'm going to ask the person who's actually having the problem to join the channel :D [16:14] ubidoobi2: those hdds should be reported including vendor, so you could something like dmesg|grep -i samsung [16:14] !ask | Weisse [16:14] Weisse: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [16:14] DrPoO: the problem is happening in a fresh install [16:14] SunTsu - I got 3 different HDDs that i've tried .. one is 200 gb 700 gb and 1 tb all different vendors [16:15] DrPoO: some lines appear in the top of the wallpaper, diferent each time I boot [16:15] DrPoO: Your nickname is not family friendly, please change it. [16:15] !ohmy | DrPoO [16:15] DrPoO: Please remember that all Ubuntu IRC channels share the same attitude of providing friendly and polite interaction with all users of all ages and cultures. Basically, this means no foul language and no abuse towards others. [16:15] Weisse: Which does not tell us anything useful, please read what ubottu told you [16:15] western digital , seagate and maxtor [16:16] DrPoO: well you usually get that when you install or upgrade a package that would require an upgrade (like a new kernel). So I would start looking at the install scripts for kernel packages. If that isn't fruitful, try to find documentation about that [16:16] ill try showing a screenshot [16:16] If I have java and iced tea installed how do i know which one i'm using with javaws? [16:16] Chakravanti: update-alternatives should help [16:17] question, i'm trying to make dhcpd to use eth2 instead of eth0 how can I accomplish that? === joo is now known as Guest36281 [16:17] SubNormal: This will sound almost too obvious, but "dhcpcd eth2" [16:18] theadmin: you added a c [16:18] woah, so DrPoO is a nonfriendly nickname and subnormal is a frinedly one? I lol'd. [16:18] ubidoobi2: as I said, see if dmesg even says that the kernel actually sees them [16:18] CarlFK: Oh, I see, I thought they'd misspell it [16:18] CarlFK: Because the proper name is dhcpcd [16:18] SunTsu - okay i'll go do it ... it's on the system i'm using now .. so it's a bit of a pain .. [16:18] CarlFK: Google doesn't even bring up anything for "dhcpd" that makes any sense [16:18] theadmin: thats the client. the server is dhcpd [16:18] CarlFK: Oh... [16:19] CarlFK: Still works though :D [16:19] SubNormal: dhcpd eth2, sorry [16:19] . === area51 is now known as Guest71501 [16:20] authenticate [16:20] !register | Guest71501 [16:20] Guest71501: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode [16:21] theadmin: um.. what makes you think that is good advice? [16:21] theadmin: i'm sorry, but could you please clarify where to use the "dhcpd eth2" ? :-/ [16:21] I im having the following graphical problem, those lines appear on the desktop just bellow the pannel http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11043442/ssbug.png [16:21] CarlFK: Because that'd work... [16:21] SubNormal: I think that's a command, or you could edit the config to use whatever [16:22] yeah, I've allready edited the dhcpd.conf to eth2 but it still wants to use eth0 [16:22] SubNormal: Have a look here, theadmin seems to be answering almost randomly =/ http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/wiki/index.php/Quick_HOWTO_:_Ch08_:_Configuring_the_DHCP_Server#Routing I see that as a nasty trick, but seems like it has to be that way [16:23] SubNormal: you are restarting the server, right ? [16:23] CarlFK yeah ofcourse :) [16:23] theadmin: If he has no subnet declaration on the server, calling it with that wont work [16:23] Um [16:23] when you create a gpg key where is it stored? [16:23] annyonw willing to help me with this strange bug? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11043442/ssbug.png [16:24] i have both ubuntu 10.10 and 10.04 installed on my computer i wanna syncronise my settings and softwares and data from .04 to .10 and want to uninstall .04 after that. how to do that [16:24] s/anyonw/anyone [16:24] whats the syntax to login to irc here .. its been a while [16:25] hi [16:26] I im having the following graphical problem, those lines appear on the top of the desktop just bellow the pannel http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11043442/ssbug.png === newbie is now known as Guest6816 [16:26] Hi. I'm using xchat and trying to type in a channel and it tells me I cannot send to channel. Have I done something wrong in setup? [16:26] theadmin CarlFK XayOn i've changed the files /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf to use eth2, so other then changing eth0 into eth2 in those 2 files I have no idea what to do next :-/ [16:26] good morning folks [16:27] GreekFreak: try /join #channel [16:27] Weisse: that's how I got to the channel [16:27] hi [16:27] Hey guys. How do I search a directory and the contents of all files within for a certain string? [16:27] hi [16:27] SubNormal: whats the line in dhcpd.conf? [16:27] Is there any way to make my AMD desktop machine run as fast as my intel laptop for ubuntu? [16:27] antnash: grep -r string path/ [16:27] cheers llutz [16:28] anybody help me [16:28] is there maybe a problem with the #git channel? I could send earlier.... [16:28] find directory -exec grep -l string {} \; [16:28] GreekFreak: I dont get the problem then, are you properly identified? [16:28] anybody can help me please ? [16:28] does anyone know how ubuntu can remember passwords for remote git accounts? [16:28] i've got a bit of a problem: my touchpad stops working with no reason after a few while => i do "synclient TouchpadOff=0" but it's not definitive, next start up, touchpad is going to stop again, please help me [16:28] CarlFK: you mean INTERFACES="eth2"; ? [16:29] SubNormal: caps? try it lower case. and check syslog - but I am surprised it is starting [16:29] I im having the following graphical problem, those lines appear on the top of the desktop just bellow the pannel. Screenshot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11043442/ssbug.png help plz [16:30] Weisse: thank you. that was it and I didn't notive the failure :) [16:30] tompinza: wassup? [16:30] I have 3 users on my ubuntu 11.10 and I remove to all the password. Now, when I try to use the sudo command with one of this user, sudo is asking me for a password, but I remove it to all; what I have to do ? [16:31] CarlFK: thats what I saw in the walktrough, so i just used it :-/ [16:31] tompinza: reassign password [16:31] tompinza: you cant sudo without password [16:31] tompinza: sudo requires a passcode - there's no way around that [16:31] tompinza: learn what NOPASSWD does in sudoers ;) [16:31] damn it, ninja'd x 2 [16:31] tompinza: set a password. If you have NO pasword for any sudo users, you will need to drop to root recovery mode and aset it there [16:31] >.> [16:31] TheEvilPhoenix: *cough* [16:32] tompinza: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword [16:32] Some bright lines appear on the top of the desktop just bellow the pannel. Screenshot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11043442/ssbug.png help plz (it is a fresh install) [16:32] tompinza: don't set blank passwords, it makes things not work [16:32] tompinza: you really should be careful with a setup like this. Your users need passwords especially when they are allowed to sudo [16:32] ok thaks so much, I'l try it immediatly [16:32] tompinza: even more, you only should use NOPASSWD on specific commands, man sudoers [16:33] hello! is it possible to encrypt the persistence file on a live usb stick? and decrypt it upon boot of course [16:34] i couldn't find anything on google so dont lmgtfy please :) [16:34] CarlFK: still no luck, still get "no subnet declarition for eth0 0.0.0.0" [16:34] winnie666: what's the purpose of that? === alienatu is now known as alienzombie [16:34] winnie666: what purpose would you need for such a setup? [16:34] Some bright lines appear on the top of the desktop just bellow the pannel. Screenshot: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/11043442/ssbug.png help plz (it is a fresh install) I think I may be able to fix it by reinstalling some packages.... dunno which ones [16:34] i've got a hdmi problem: i configure the tv screen as a clone but i can't see the whole screen in the tv [16:34] !repeat | Weisse [16:34] Weisse: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [16:34] TheEvilPhoenix: maybe sort of a mobile workstation where he doesn't want to be carrying aroung his data unencrypted [16:34] around even [16:35] TheEvilPhoenix, doing sensitive banking stuff and being able to store passwords in plaintext [16:35] ok, I give up [16:36] Weisse: you need patience [16:36] Weisse: part of getting help is *patience* [16:36] !patience | Weisse [16:36] Weisse: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/ [16:36] i.e. not repeating your question in a 3 minute period of time [16:36] Weisse: repeating your qquestion will not get you help earlier but makes people ignore you [16:36] ok, i got terapy. thx [16:37] lulz [16:37] Weisse: what gpu is it (I bet Intel 82845) [16:38] won [16:38] ActionParsnip: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Xpress 1250 [16:38] http://goo.gl/Ov56R | Oneiric/11.10 is out! | Please use the torrents! http://torrent.ubuntu.com/ [16:38] * Topic for #ubuntu set by Pici at Thu Oct 13 06:26:02 2011 [16:38] -ChanServ- [#ubuntu] Welcome to #ubuntu! Please read the channel topic. This channel is logged. Use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/TermsOfService [16:38] * #ubuntu :http://www.ubuntu.com [16:38] won [16:38] jacobs_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [16:39] Weisse, you're using the open source radeon driver right [16:39] SubNormal: start-stop-daemon --start --quiet --pidfile $DHCPDPID --exec /usr/sbin/dhcpd -- -q -pf $DHCPDPID -cf $CONFIG_FILE $INTERFACES [16:39] Weisse: is it ok in Ubnity 2D session? [16:39] racho: yes [16:39] SubNormal: thats from /etc/init.d/isc-dhcp-server - I can't figure out where $INTERFACES gets set, but that seems like what you need to set. [16:40] ActionParsnip: let me try [16:41] Is there a "unified" place to find gnome shell extensions and what they do? [16:41] or is it just kind of google and hope you find something? [16:42] Hello all. Who feels compelled to aid me with a multi-display problem??? [16:42] hi folks, i'm planning on installing ubuntu along side of win 7, and have a few partitioning issues. o have a partition of almost 200gb, and i would like advice on if i should break that into more partitions, and if so how many, also there is data in the partition from an old ubuntu install that i can't get rid of , and would like advice on that as well. thanks in advance for any help i get here. [16:42] CarlFK ok thanks for that, but I tried to change the eth2 back to eth0 and got the dhcp to work, but it's giving me 10mb/s connection why's that? and I cant access any websites :-/ [16:42] ActionParsnip: Yes, there is no problem on unity 2D [16:42] Hi! When I do 'apt-get install wine' on Ubuntu running on a x86-64, does it install a native 64-bit wine or 32-bit (with 32-bit libraries and all that)? [16:43] anyone know if there's a way to use gtk3's new broadway (serving apps via the web) backend easily on 11.10? [16:43] Chraz_Ritt: making a new fs on that partition should get rid of anything [16:43] SubNormal: um.. 10mb has nothing to do with dhcp... "can't" sounds like your gateway isn't set right === `mOOse` is now known as m00se [16:43] Weisse, it turns out ati x*** cards don't behave properly under compiz introducing visual artifacts [16:44] Tricen : Please eloaborate [16:44] Chraz_Ritt: I at least would make a /home partition, so you can keep your data whenever you decide to re-install [16:44] I've tried this: "GDK_BACKEND=broadway gedit", but get "Gdk-ERROR **: Unsupported GDK backend: broadway" [16:44] hi [16:44] please do u know if there is a desktop with gnome-shell ? [16:44] Weisse: then its your chip trying to do 3D stuff. Are you fully updated? [16:44] kryl: You can apt-get install it [16:44] kryl: apt-get install gnome-shell [16:44] ActionParsnip: fully updated fresh install [16:44] kryl: unless we are missunderstandingyou [16:45] Is there a way to 'unlock' the panels? [16:45] Weisse: you may need to use an xorg.conf file to specify options to make it run better. I have limited experience of AT chips [16:45] I want to customize my desktop like 11.04 [16:45] racho: the fix is not using compositing? [16:45] Weisse: you can use Unity2D until you get righted though [16:45] Q: I have onboard video (Intel 3100) and a Geforce fx 5500. When I have the geforce in the PC, it is the only thing that shows up in "displays". When It's removed from the PC, the onboard starts working and I again only see one monitor in "displays". Any reason for this? [16:46] CarlFK ok sorry for that, but the network card should be 10/100/1000 (well atleast 10/100) but how can I configure it to get access to the net? [16:46] Weisse, well that's a temporary fix [16:46] I allready have gnome-shell, but I just wonder why I can't use icons with desktop in background :-) I have only menu actually. [16:46] SunTsu: i have tried reformatting that partition from ext 4 to ext2, and back with no results, i also tried to delete the partition both in ubuntu and in windows, but when i create the new partition the data is back [16:46] Tricen: your mobo probably automagically disables the onboard gfx when you plug in the card [16:46] Tricen: check the bios [16:46] ActionParsnip: strange, i had no problem previowsly using xcompmgr [16:46] hi. I have a bunch of issues in Ubuntu 11.10 when switching between windows or moving them between virtual terminals. anyone else seeing that ? [16:47] Chraz_Ritt: er, what? that can't happen, what kind of data is it? [16:47] on another distro [16:47] or how to get amsn working with systray :-) [16:47] balazs, same with me. Unity is such a headache. [16:47] MrElendig funny thing is, I get the "Ubuntu" logo on that screen BEFORE the login screen, so the card can't be disabled. Also, there are no settings for the onboard in my bios.... little confused :P [16:48] what driver are you using for the nvidia card? [16:48] nouveau or nvidia-173xx? [16:48] and why not run both screens from the nvidia card? [16:48] SunTsu, it's old ubuntu data in a folder called "lost and found", and i can't even open the folder due to permissions issues [16:49] the card only has one output, i'll check the driver now [16:49] * MrElendig would get a new card if the box has pcie [16:49] MrElendig: becausa nvidia doesnt suport 2 screens, it actualy creates a large screen that contains both [16:49] manbra_linux: any easy way to try a new windowing system ? [16:49] Weisse: wrong [16:49] Chraz_Ritt: ever checked if your disk has issues like badblocks? [16:49] I need some assistance with preventing ubuntu from blanking the screen or going to sleep... can someone help? :-) [16:49] MrElendig: dunno then [16:50] balazs, not that I know of... It's so fn frustrating. [16:50] It's like they want ubuntu to fail : / [16:50] Weisse: how the screens are handled is up to the window manager, some spans, some put seperate desktops on the seperate screens [16:50] I'm having problems compiling applications dependent on glib on Ubuntu. I've got libglib2.0-dev installed, obviously, but the programs still refuse to compile and give me "unresolved external" problems referring to functions from the glib library. I am passing the appropriate compiler flags via pkg-config. any suggestions? [16:50] "NVidia Accelerated Graphics driver (version 173) in the "additional drivers" section [16:50] SubNormal: is this your dhcp server? if so, you need to config it with a static ip, it can't config itself (last I checked...) [16:50] Tricen: you can't use that + the intel driver at once [16:50] not to mention that I'm not getting this issue on any other distributions. [16:50] Tricen: you will have to use the free noveau(sp?) driver isntead [16:51] instead* [16:51] MrElendig: weel the separate desktops doesnt work with nvidia closed drivers but work with nouveau [16:51] any guide on how to setup/install? [16:51] Weisse: try adding the boot option: radeon.modeset=0 [16:51] Tricen: because they have a conflicting libgl implimentation and the nvidia driver lacks randr support [16:51] is there a possible way to overclock intel atom using ubuntu? [16:51] Weisse: http://arch.har-ikkje.net/gfx/ss/2011-04-24-201457_2960x1050_scrot.png nvidia twinview setup, 2 screens, 2 workspaces === r2d2 is now known as Guest55575 [16:51] ActionParsnip: grub config? [16:52] alvin2_: overclocking is normally done at the hardware (controlled by bios) level [16:52] howdy [16:52] SunTsu, aside from the checker in the partitioning tools in win 7 and ubuntu, no i haven't, but both say that the partition is good [16:52] Weisse: add it in the quotes with: quiet splash in /etc/default/grub then run: sudo update-grub [16:52] i dont have ipmask on my box i need ipmask how can i install? [16:52] !ipmask [16:52] MrElendig: dunno then, was not able to make 2 desktops for awesome with the nvidia proprietary driver [16:53] !ipmask [16:53] Anybody? [16:53] ikonia:whatif the bios has no option for overclocking? [16:53] MrElendig: while worked default with nouveau [16:53] Weisse: wm only supporting randr and not xinerama maybe? [16:53] Where is my ipmask ? [16:53] MrElendig: makes sense [16:53] Does anyone know where this command can be installed from? [16:53] CarlFK yes this is my dhcp server, I thought that I had configured it's static ip, what should I do to do that? sorry i'm pretty new to this :-/ [16:53] alvin2_: then no [16:54] 45 [16:54] i lost the menu bar in nautilus, how do I recover it ? [16:54] !hi [16:54] Does anyone know where this command can be installed from? (ipmask) [16:54] ikonia: ouch! [16:54] sevith: what is ipmask? [16:54] sevith: what should it do/be? [16:54] i have a script i built a while back that used ipmask [16:54] SubNormal: um... with the right settings :) [16:54] sevith: what should it do/be? [16:54] now the system im trying to run it on does not have ipmask!? [16:54] sevith: also don't spam the question [16:54] SubNormal: IP, netmask, gateway, dns servers. [16:55] CarlFK lol that's what I thought I had done [16:55] NETWORK=`/bin/ipmask $NETMASK $IPADDR | cut -f 2 -d ' '` this is the line [16:55] Anything equiv would work too. I just need something to set the netmask and address of an interface [16:55] I've never heard of the command ipmask [16:55] sevith: ifconfig [16:55] what are linux friendly online movie rental sites? [16:55] ifconfig iface addr 192.168.x.x [16:55] ? [16:56] I've heard of one ipmask command, which was a horrible script in slackware back in 2005 or so [16:56] Damn it Ubuntu, you really do suck sometimes. Again I hit Ctrl + Space and Python IDLE crashed. Code for the past five minutes lost. Thanks Ubuntu. [16:56] sevith: read "man ifconfig" for usage [16:56] k [16:56] Il go get my ethtool and beat myself with it [16:56] sevith: you just want to find your ip address / mask or what? [16:56] No [16:56] I have a script that turns your laptop into an access point [16:57] hrolf: my suggestion: don't use IDLE, it is not good at all. [16:57] It just needs ipmask to set the stuff right. I guess ifconfig would work. Id rather just install ipmask i guess that redo the script to use ifconfig.. You know? Makes it easier i guess [16:57] hrolf: and it can even break some python code/make it behave in strange and unexpected ways [16:57] !find ipmask [16:57] File ipmask found in php-doc [16:58] sevith, ifconfig is the standard tool. I've never heard of ipmask...it the script for some non-linux OS perhaps? [16:58] aha... [16:58] It was built for nix [16:58] gtg [16:58] sevith: these days you should use ip instead of ifconfig btw [16:58] SunTsu: i can't find a scanner to check my hdd using ubuntu from the live disk, could you advise me on where it is? [16:58] ActionParsnip: "quite splash, radeon.modeset=0" or no comma? [16:58] Chraz_Ritt: you mean checking the filesystems for errors? [16:58] MrElendig: I'm new to Python. What do you suggest? [16:58] hi, does nebody feel the problem with nautilus in ubuntu 11.10.. like when you start typing some name and it searches for it in that window.. nautilus now remember the previous information n i don't know how to remove the old content in that small box n start a new search.. [16:59] Chraz_Ritt, badblocks can check for media defects, and fsck can check for filesystem problems. [16:59] MrElendig: I mean IDE. [16:59] Chraz_Ritt: I already gave it away: "badblocks" [16:59] hrolf: vim/emacs/erik5/kate/similar [16:59] How can I safely back up my files? [16:59] TorbenBeta: rsync [16:59] s/quite/quiet [16:59] TorbenBeta: or duplicity if you want a more userfriendly frontend [17:00] MrElendig: Yes. I have been wanting to look into vim/emacs for sometime. [17:00] MrElendig, rscync is a terminal app? [17:00] TorbenBeta: thers umpteen options, maybe you could be more verbose on what excatly you need to backup [17:00] "there's" [17:00] hi, is there a way i can search the software repository for a regex instead of an exact filename? something command line [17:00] TorbenBeta: yes, but there exist several gui fronts for it [17:00] http://paste.ubuntu.com/720874/ <- can somebody please tell me why the success of the compilation depends on the order of the commandline parameters? I haven't seen that in any other distros. [17:01] SunTsu, are you saying to use that from the command line? [17:01] SunTsu, I would like to do my system anew, but I would like to save the files. [17:01] CharlieSu: yeah [17:01] TorbenBeta: then copy them to an external medium or some network share using e.g. rsync [17:01] Hello, I have an old system, AMD Duron 1300MHz, 380 odd megs of ram running Lubuntu. What webserver can I set up for use here at home? Will Apache slow it down? Should I use another lighter weight webserver? [17:01] cp should be enough, though [17:02] cp doesn't guarantee consistency [17:02] Ascavasaion: depends on how much traffic you expect [17:02] nor does it has resume support etc [17:02] XAVeRY, not related to your question, but what package is glib-2.0 in? i dont have it and cant seem to find it [17:02] tomasm-: libglib2.0-dev [17:02] cp can mess with things like dates and permissions. I would recommend tar. [17:02] ActionParsnip: shouldn't it be update-grub2 ? [17:03] SunTsu: Very very little... just want to set up a small FTP and webserver for at home. [17:03] XAVeRY, what ubuntu version? I have 11.10 and it says couldnt find any package by regex libglib-2.0-dev [17:03] Ascavasaion: then you can use what you know best, you will hardly notice it [17:03] Ascavasaion: dnsmasq, ssh, nginx [17:03] tomasm-: I have 11.10 as well. :o [17:03] my computer is constantly muting and unmuting rapidly. Any suggestions.During bootup [[25~is constantly going across the screen [17:03] . [17:03] tomasm-: it's libglib2.0, not libglib-2.0 :P [17:03] Ascavasaion: samba or nfs for file sharing === area51 is now known as Guest80150 [17:04] Ascavasaion, apache should do fine. If you want to look at other options, they are out there, such as lighttpd. [17:04] XAVeRY, grrr [17:04] Ascavasaion: openvpn if you want access to your lan from remote sites [17:04] Ascavasaion: I really would stay away from ftp. As far as you can [17:04] whats a good program to scan the LAN for HOSTS? [17:04] Guest80150: nmap [17:04] Guest80150, npam works well for that. [17:04] Guest80150, nmap, I mean. [17:04] Guest80150: nmap -sP [17:04] I ran NMAP but [17:04] ok [17:04] what are linux friendly online movie rental sites? [17:05] ill try that switch [17:05] TorbenBeta, You may wish to consider grsync, a front for rsync; should be in your repos. [17:05] thx [17:05] Guest80150: -sP only pings stuff [17:05] Guest80150, man nmap [17:05] XAVeRY, any idea what could cause a 'undefined symbol: g_direct_hash'? one page says it's libglib-2.0 causing it, but its installed fine =( [17:05] tomasm-: that's exactly what I'm trying to solve... [17:05] Guest80150: if you need performance and don't need really fancy scans, then take a look at portbunny [17:06] tomasm-, often you need to install the -dev or -devel version of a library in order to compile against it. [17:06] tomasm-: the compilation works fine if you do gcc myfile.c $(pkg-config --cflags --libs glib-2.0), but doesn't if I do gcc $(pkg-config --cflags --libs glib-2.0) myfile.c === ania12lat is now known as DaZ [17:06] thx MrElendif [17:06] is there a way to always have the starter showing in ubuntu? === tank__ is now known as White-- [17:06] B0g4r7, the dev pkg is installed [17:07] XAVeRY and i have the same problem [17:07] tomasm-, you also need to be sure it's being detected properly by ld. I usually add the path into /etc/ld.so.conf and re-run ldconfig-v and watch the output to make sure it found it. [17:07] does anyone know how to make a program start up as minimized? [17:08] faint545: depends on the app and window manager [17:08] Hi [17:08] i'm using 11.10 and I want thunderbird to start up as minimized [17:08] some apps do have a --minimize flag or similar [17:09] B0g4r7, ldd actually does not reference it at all.... [17:09] for the rest, if the wm supports it, you can make a managerule for it [17:09] My system startup time got really slow after installing Ubuntu one on Kubuntu 11.10 so I Unistalled it but no improvement in the startup time? [17:09] faint545: There's alltray for minimizing apps to tray -- you may want that [17:09] B0g4r7: the .so file is installed in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/, which is added to ldconfig by /etc/ld.so.conf.d/x86_64-linux-gnu.conf. so that's not the issue - ld can find it. [17:10] Weisse: I believe they are the same deal, go for it [17:10] bye [17:11] XAVeRY, yeah, why would putting the -I and -l BEFORE the .c file matter? [17:11] tomasm-: exactly my question. :) [17:11] Hi ActionParsnip [17:11] tomasm-: I don't have this issue with Arch or Fedora, which is why I'm asking. [17:11] XAVeRY, well looking at the gcc man page, it shows "gcc " [17:11] Can someone highlight me, i.e. write my nickname in their message, please? [17:11] tomasm-, well, ldd is meant to be run against an already compiled binary to show what dynamic libraries it links to. If you can't successfully compile...well, ldd isn't going to be of help. [17:11] tomasm-: exactly. so it *should* work. [17:11] theadmin: ok [17:11] auronandace: Thanks. [17:11] XAVeRY, no i mean it says the files HAVE TO be last in the command [17:12] auronandace: Playing with colors, lol [17:12] tomasm-: I know, so why does it work if I append the pkg-config information to the back? :P [17:12] XAVeRY, it is pretty standard to require that command-line switches come before regular args. [17:12] XAVeRY, oh..... hmmmm [17:12] ActionParsnip: I seems that the splash screen bacame a white&black striped screen, even tough the lines in the desktop are gone [17:13] My system startup time got really slow after installing Ubuntu one on Kubuntu 11.10 so I Unistalled it(and purged its dependancies) but no improvement in the startup time? [17:13] Hi there! I have a problem which I can not find in the launchpad. Sometimes my ~/.xsession-errors file grows to 80Gb and uses all the HDD space. It is filled with lines like this: "SSL error: I/O error" Anyone knows how to deal with that? [17:14] hi im seeing some very strange behaviour on my girlfriends laptop running 11.10 - when browsing on the internet over wireless pages take a long time to load. however over a cat5 cable there is no issue. even if i move the laptop right next to the AP pages take a long time to load. There does not appear to be packet loss with ping [17:14] how do I stop then start compiz with valgrind? [17:14] hello all , sorry to bug but just was wondering if anyone knows, if they fixed problems with the nvidia cuda chipsets to have 3d acc [17:15] XAVeRY: haha! [17:16] XAVeRY, is this happening with anything else other than glib? [17:16] jimmy8888: that could be a lot of issues, ranging from routing over dns to firewall problems [17:16] B0g4r7, he's saying that the -I and -l parameters dont work when you put them before the .c file, but work when you put them after [17:16] theadmin, that link is quite old and the referenced plugin is no longer compatible with Thunderbird 7 [17:17] tomasm-: I haven't checked. [17:17] XAVeRY, wait, ive been told that you have to put the link at the end [17:17] suntsu: yep i know it is a very vague description and it is going to be a PITA to troubleshoot. i have pretty much ruled out DNS and routing, im pretty sure its the wlan card that is at fault [17:18] hi. the overlay scrollbars break various apps. what's the correct project to bug report at launchpad? [17:18] found it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nspluginwrapper/+bug/498911/comments/8 [17:18] Launchpad bug 498911 in nspluginwrapper (Ubuntu) "nspluginwrapper fills .xsession-errors until disk space is exhausted" [Undecided,Confirmed] [17:18] faint545: Oh, okay... What link, though? What plugin? [17:18] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lazarus/+bug/872880 [17:18] Launchpad bug 872880 in lazarus (Ubuntu) "Clicking on tabs does not work" [Undecided,Confirmed] [17:18] jimmy8888: does dmesg say something? or /var/log/messages? [17:18] theadmin, oops nvm [17:19] theadmin, thats my fault haha. [17:19] tomasm-, Yes, and I'm saying that it is fairly standard for a program to require that switches (items with a - or -- prefix) be all specified before normal args on the command line. [17:20] faint545: Lol okay [17:20] B0g4r7, i understand that, and that use case is failing, for the -lLIBNAME, which may need to go after, not sure [17:21] Weisse: and that's in the normal unity desktop (not 2d) [17:22] tomasm-: -flags should always go before args [17:22] hello I am trying to install java server in an ubuntu and when i open a .jsp file i get the non permission access [17:22] what do i miss [17:22] i added the addhandler to my sites-available/default file [17:23] MrElendig, yes, of course, but that doesnt compile in that situation... putting -lglib after glibtest.c works, though [17:23] help!!!!!!!!! [17:23] HackeMate, have you checked the webserver log files for clues? [17:23] from terminal, how do I copy an entire folder including sub folder and hidden files into a zip file? [17:24] vacho: run "zip" on it? [17:24] what's the full command ? :) [17:24] vacho: man zip [17:24] B0g4r7: thanks! [17:24] vacho, man zip should provide you with the needed information. [17:24] i ahve a clue now, it says options ExecCGI is off [17:24] vacho: I would suggest 7z instead though [17:24] vacho: zip's help is not that complicatedm neither is the man page [17:24] (or tar) [17:24] so i guess i should add Options +ExecCGI [17:25] ok, so i figured out that badblocks is a command line operation, but not being versed in command line actions, what do i need to add to the command so i can check the partition i need tested? [17:25] SunTsu, you are right, time to stop being lazy and read it! thanks mate! [17:25] Trying to connect sony xperia x10( android) to ubuntu 11.4 to connect to internet. it works fine with my micromax (java)phone. Thanks in advance [17:25] Chraz_Ritt: er, the partition? ;) [17:25] Why isn't this working? http://paste.ubuntu.com/720910/ [17:26] If I want to access a webserver on a PC on a network that is behind a router... how do I force the router to route the info to the specific PC that has the webserver running on it. [17:26] Vustom: because there is no file gnome-shell-gnome2-notifications@emergya.com in gnome-shell-gnome2-notifications? [17:26] Do I use that Port forwarding? [17:26] Ascavasaion: you do [17:26] Trying to connect sony xperia x10( android) to ubuntu 11.4 to connect to internet. it works fine with my micromax (java)phone. Thanks in advance [17:26] ActionParsnip: yes, fixed the normal unity but ruined the ubuntu spash screen [17:26] Ascavasaion: yes [17:26] Chraz_Ritt: fsck can run badblocks for you, and test the fs itself, in one go [17:27] Ascavasaion, You will need to configure the port forwarding rules on the NAT router. [17:27] ActionParsnip: s/spash/splash [17:27] how can i set my screen in xubuntu? [17:27] the brignes is killing me!! [17:27] Thank you guys. [17:28] I fixed it :) [17:28] ActionParsnip:Trying to connect sony xperia x10( android) to ubuntu 11.4 to connect to internet. it works fine with my micromax (java)phone. Thanks in advance [17:29] <_spt_> Is there a problem with Ubuntu 11.10 and Radeon 5450 card? it goes all stripey when trying to install any ideas? [17:30] _spt_: ask in #ati [17:30] <_spt_> thanks [17:31] denis_, tried adjusting the brighness on your monitor instead> [17:31] what's wrong with my icons? http://bryansalisbury.com/statics/screenshot.png [17:31] XAVeRY, this couldbe a wild guess, but if you're compiling an object file, you might have to put the -lLIBNAME afterwards - just something someone in #gcc told me [17:31] did someone hilight me, I think someone hilighted me [17:31] hi [17:32] vacho, i can't [17:32] on 11.10 any body noticed empty resolv.conf after reboot? [17:32] how i do that? [17:32] Bam_Bam, did you ugrade 11.04 to 11.10? [17:32] ppradhan: not you :) [17:32] compdoc, yes I did [17:32] ppradhan, yes, happened on two systems for me [17:33] Weisse: I know which I'd rather have working :) [17:33] Bam_Bam, are you also using vnc? that was a problem for me [17:33] do you lnow an app to control the brighness? [17:33] i want my tv to be my laptop screen but i can't see all of ubuntu from my screen: i can't see the borders [17:33] compdoc, and the upgrade did not go smoothly [17:33] compdoc, any workaround? [17:33] here is my xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/Qanm5RSh [17:33] ppradhan: fire up dhcplient in a terminal and see if it spits out any errors when you try to do a request [17:33] Bam_Bam, I was able to fix it [17:33] compdoc, I don't use VNC though I'm not sure if it's on or not [17:33] ActionParsnip:Trying to connect sony xperia x10( android) to ubuntu 11.4 to connect to internet. it works fine with my micromax (java)phone. Thanks in advance [17:33] asuming you are using dhcp ofcourse [17:33] compdoc, it looks fine in the Ubuntu theme now [17:33] it's just classic that's still screwed up [17:34] ppradhan, I set the resolv.conf file by hand, since I dont use network manager [17:34] shp: i had that trouble yesterday, have your checked your tv settings? [17:34] I removed .gconf directory which resolved everything for the unity theme [17:34] MrElendig: no dhcp [17:34] Hey guys, can anyone help me with this error: *** 'pkg-config --modversion gtk+-2.0' returned 2.11.4, but GTK+ (2.24.6) [17:34] Chraz_Ritt, what do you mean? [17:34] poison: why ask me, ask the channel [17:34] compdoc: can i remove network manager ? [17:34] the tv works well (hdmi is ok in windows problem is in ubuntu) [17:35] Can anyone help with this: http://pastie.org/2768783 [17:35] ive installed this app :>sudo aptitude install apache2 php5-mysql libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server] to my knowledge mysql is supposed to ask me a password but it hasnt and im a little stuck [17:35] Bam_Bam, I installed a package that reinstalled the icons - hold on a sec [17:35] ActionParsnip: I could disable splashscreen [17:35] shp, the screen settings in the tv menu [17:36] im on maverick [17:36] hey guys! [17:36] hi hash [17:36] XAVeRY, probably something that has been 'fixed' with recent gcc versions.... i was compiling gimp-perl (last release was 2005) and all i need to do was switch the -lglib-2.0 around in the makefile to get it to work [17:36] magik [17:36] Chraz_Ritt, hdmi works on windows so i don't think it's in the screen settings [17:36] I did "dpkg -s redis-server" to know it's version and I got "Version: 2:1.2.0-1". How do I read the version from that? (I don't understand the colon part) [17:36] ph4nt0m_, you might be able to use dpkg to reconfigure mysql === xiaoy is now known as d === d is now known as xiaoy [17:37] right how do i do that bam bam? [17:37] Anyone got any idea about: http://pastie.org/2768783 ? [17:37] Command Ran: sudo chown -R doug:executive Div.\ 7\ -\ Management/ [17:37] LS output: drwxrwxrwx 1 myelick myelick 4096 2011-02-11 17:52 Div. 7 - Management [17:37] any ideas what that is not changing the group/user? [17:37] tomasm-: I guess... well, thanks. [17:37] man how can i control the brigness of my notebook with xubuntu? [17:37] Weisse: you could delete the quiet splash boot option and it will boot in text mode [17:37] Is changing the system-wide umask supported by Canonical or can I expect the package manager to break the system because of it? [17:37] hey guys. tried to tweak the look of ubuntu/gnome but now it has unusable damage grafics and is very slow. (compiz, dconf gconf, ...I had used to edit) can I revert to installation defaults ? [17:38] is it because of how this external drive is mounted? [17:38] ph4nt0m_, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server" I think [17:38] nobody up for my xorg problem pls? [17:38] ActionParsnip:Trying to connect sony xperia x10( android) to ubuntu 11.4 to connect to internet. it works fine with my micromax (java)phone. Thanks in advance [17:38] shp, yesterday i had the same thing with windows being fine while ubuntu wasn't, i found that my hd size setting was wrong for ubuntu, your tv may call it something else, give a try at looking around the menu [17:38] anyone tried ubuntu with fluxbox? I get very slow screen redrawing, about 2 frames per second on an i5 [17:38] Trying to connect sony xperia x10( android) to ubuntu 11.4 to connect to internet. it works fine with my micromax (java)phone. Thanks in advance [17:39] ok bam bam thankyou :) [17:39] hello there [17:39] vantage_pudding: always been fine here when I've used it [17:39] ph4nt0m_, did that work? [17:39] vantage_pudding: same as a fresh user? [17:39] Trying to connect sony xperia x10( android) to ubuntu 11.4 to connect to internet. it works fine with my micromax (java)phone. Thanks in advance [17:39] havent tried yet lol [17:39] anyone? [17:39] ActionParsnip, fresh user? how do you mean? [17:39] Anyone know anything about GTK Version mismatches? sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [17:39] why we can't pdf file from vi ? [17:39] oops [17:39] open [17:39] vantage_pudding: make a new user, log in as that and see if its the same [17:39] Anyone know anything about GTK Version mismatches? http://pastie.org/2768783 [17:39] ActionParsnip, ok, thanks, brb [17:39] why we can't open pdf file from vi ? [17:40] compdoc, ? [17:40] is Ubuntu Studio going to get upgraded to 11.10 or is it a dead project? [17:40] can we open pdf file from vi ? [17:40] it just took me straight back home in terminal [17:40] rtyuio: because vi is a text editor and pdfs aren't text files [17:40] rtyuio: nope [17:40] guys, how do I interpret this dpkg version "2:1.2.0-1"? I understand get the colon part. Is it just 2.1 or anything else? [17:40] ph4nt0m_, idk then [17:41] Question - On Gnome Shell in 11.10 when I hit the wireless network icon in the upper right, some of the wifi networks show up as "UNKNOWN". Any idea why?? [17:41] ok dude ty anyways ill use my ol pal scroogle [17:41] roasted_: Hidden ESSID? [17:41] Bam_Bam, I think it was gnome-shell that I had to install [17:41] join #ubuntustudio [17:41] rtyuio: you could convert it to text first [17:41] hi guys, i'm on oneiric with gnome3. I've removed all unity and mono stuff, and my netbook is quite good, but when I try to update && dist-upgrade synaptic says that he wants yo install banshee, mono, compiz, unity and other shit. Is there a way to tell synaptic shut the fuck up and don't install stuff I don't wants? [17:41] theadmin, I don't think so. at work we have 3 SSIDs, and two showed up as unknown while the other I could read. [17:42] i got some text on my pdf file [17:42] compdoc, that appears to be working [17:42] roasted_: Does the same thing happen when you "iwlist wlan0 scan"? [17:42] gonko: Please mind your language in this channel. [17:42] theadmin, I'm at a hospital now and I see like 4 networks. The one I'm connected to is an ATTWIFI hotspot, the others are unknown. So HERE I'm not sure... but at work we don't hide our SSIDs. [17:42] rtyuio: http://shibuvarkala.blogspot.com/2008/11/howto-convert-pdf-to-txt-in-ubuntu.html [17:42] Does anyone know why I can't use widgets in 11.10? [17:42] theadmin, I see a bunch of unknown entries, yes. [17:42] theadmin, being I'm in a hospital (and its packed) I wonder if its peoples laptops that have hotspot capability? [17:42] roasted_: wireless driver problems, that's all I can say [17:43] theadmin, is "unknown" normally an indication of the ssid being hidden? [17:43] hi. the overlay scrollbars break various apps. what's the correct project to bug report at launchpad? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lazarus/+bug/872880 [17:43] Launchpad bug 872880 in lazarus (Ubuntu) "Clicking on tabs does not work" [Undecided,Confirmed] [17:43] roasted_: I think it is [17:43] theadmin, well, I suppose that's possible but I find it hard to believe as it happened to TWO completely different model laptops. [17:43] MrElendig: when i type "fsck" to my command line i get what looks like version information back, it seems that i have much to learn about using the command line. [17:43] theadmin, 11.10 32 bit on both with gnome shell. [17:43] Pici: what I say? Unity? mono? I know mono is a bad word [17:43] roasted_: Well, then a problem with wext [17:43] Bam_Bam, you got the icons back? [17:43] Chraz_Ritt: man fsck [17:43] theadmin, I wonder if I log out and into unity what would happen to nework manager [17:43] compdoc, sorta, they aren't the same ones [17:43] theadmin, perhaps thats worth checking out quick... [17:44] compdoc, right click menu still isn't themed [17:44] roasted_: you should probably try, yeah [17:44] theadmin, brb then.. [17:44] roasted_: cu [17:44] ok if i understand we need to convert the pdf into text to able to read it [17:44] well, perfect [17:45] ActionParsnip, it's exactly the same on a new account [17:45] Chraz_Ritt: fsck -r or -a /dev/sdwhateveryourpartionis [17:45] rtyuio: can't you use a pdf reader? [17:45] ActionParsnip, really strange, probably something with the display drivers [17:45] Chraz_Ritt: make sure that it is _not_ mounted when your run it btw [17:45] vantage_pudding: ok then we now know its the system and not the settings [17:45] no i simply want to read pdf file from vi auronandace [17:46] ActionParsnip, ah good point :) I'll try a few more things [17:47] Hey, guys, ho to tell synaptic not to install mono, banshee and unity when I dist-upgrade? [17:47] I'm with gnome3 (it's not a bad word) and I'm happy [17:47] gonko: Gnome needs mono [17:48] gonko: However, there is a way [17:48] how do I start a process that I want to continue running after closing terminal? [17:48] gonko: If you are happy with gnome3, why wouldn't you want mono though? [17:48] gonko: echo "PACKAGENAME hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections === Gskellig is now known as CharlieSheen [17:49] theadmin, gnome works fine without it, I've purged it [17:49] what is mono? [17:49] theadmin, hmm === Mud is now known as Guest14834 [17:49] Can someone PLEASE help? [17:50] theadmin, it's not only mono, it's unity, banshee, compiz and other things I don't want [17:50] roasted__: Yes? [17:50] theadmin, unity showed me 3 wifi networks in the area. gnome shell showed me 7, the original 3 that unity showed, as well as 4 "unknowns" [17:50] theadmin, however, at first gnome shell displayed only 3. I deactivated, reactivated, and then it brought up 7 with 4 being unknown. [17:50] I think unity is not required to run gnome3 [17:50] oh i give up [17:50] gonko: for i in {unity banshee compiz mono blah blah} ; do echo "$i hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections ; done [17:50] how do I start a process that I want to continue running after closing terminal? [17:50] theadmin, I had thought it was screwing up displaying me the wireless networks but it was showing me the proper 3 accurately with 4 oddballs. [17:50] ActionParsnip, no wonder, xorg isn't configured xD [17:51] theadmin, I'd rather have "too much" than not enough, so ha.. I'll take it. [17:51] roasted__: lol okay [17:51] Bam_Bam: command &disown [17:51] theadmin, just firing that out there in case anyone else asks. :D [17:51] Pavilliox: you didnt ask a question [17:51] ActionParsnip, jockey-gtk to the rescue :p [17:51] carli2: I asked about 3 times earlier lol [17:51] Pavilliox: don'T ask to ask [17:51] http://pastie.org/2768783 [17:52] Pavilliox: what is that? [17:52] I have a question on how ubuntu lts works. Here is some background, in my lab we use rhel but since we do research we are constantly having to build our own software. Say we are using cmake 2.6 and that it came standard and we needed to upgrade to cmake 2.8. Would we need to build it from source or could we get it from the repositories? Im also on my phone so sorry for any typos. [17:52] thank you theadmin, but I'm not sure this is the only way, maybe there's still a metapackage installed and I don't know ? [17:52] A GTK error I keep getting when installing a package using ./configure [17:52] Can anyone help me with my CHOWN CHGRP CHMOD issue on a mounted ext drive? [17:52] Pavilliox: go into the gtk dev channel if you want to compile. === CharlieSheen is now known as Morpheus [17:52] gonko: could be, install tasksel to see (it's a "metapackage manager" of some sort) [17:52] hello [17:53] ths is what i got on a file [17:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/720939/ [17:53] Pavilliox: did you install the dev libs for libgtk+? [17:53] Shade34321: you'd either use backports or ppas [17:53] tell me p1ruj3 [17:53] plrWhat filesystem is on it? [17:53] a good start is chmod 775 /media/yourextedrivename [17:53] !backports | Shade34321 [17:53] Shade34321: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging [17:53] http://paste.ubuntu.com/720942/ [17:53] !ppa | Shade34321 [17:53] Shade34321: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa [17:53] theadmin, thank you [17:53] i need count the number of time ipsum is present on that test how to do ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/720939/ [17:54] I think that I might be having some issues with an ssd drive on a laptop [17:54] should I run fsck from a live cd? [17:54] So using the normal release would be better for us [17:54] p1ruj3: filesystem is on it? [17:54] ack good point vfw_ [17:54] p1ruj3: what filesystem is on it? [17:54] MrElendig: it looks like i need to not be using ubuntu from a live disk to use ether badblocks, or fsck, because i am getting 'permission denied' messages when i try to run ether of them on the partition that needs checking. [17:55] Shade34321: same applies to the normal releases [17:55] Chraz_Ritt: go root [17:55] sudo -i [17:55] hello anyone there [17:55] i need count the number of time ipsum is present on that test how to do ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/720939/ === Morpheus is now known as Gskellig [17:55] text file [17:56] rtyuio: awk is good for doing things to text files.. or grep tghe file and wc the output... if thers one per line [17:56] #bash may have better ideas [17:56] Ok. We are considering switching because rhel is several versions behind rather than say one or two. Thanks! [17:56] Chraz_Ritt: Definately from boot disk because it's not goot to try and run fsck on live (mounted) filesystem. [17:56] hi I'm running 11.04 under virtualbox, my meld app was working fine yesterday but today it freezes every time I launch a new diff *but only with certain files*, any clues? I've looked around and found nothing :/ [17:56] hi all, can someone point me to the right way for uninstalling the fglrx driver? [17:56] vfw_ ty for help [17:57] cause i want to revert to the open source ones [17:57] filippo: use jocky-gtk and deactivate it [17:57] filippo: depends on how you installed it in the first plase [17:57] place* === LuizArmesto_ is now known as LuizArmesto [17:57] ActionParsnip, MrElendig i used the proprietary driver dialog [17:58] you can uninstall it the same way then [17:58] MrElendig, great! thanks [17:59] filippo: run: gksudo jockey-gtk and deactivate it [18:00] ActionParsnip, done it thank you [18:01] beri63 [18:01] holis [18:01] Argh! I cannot figure out this port forwarding thing. Aaaany ideas? [18:02] como andan [18:02] http://www.bryansalisbury.com/statics/screenshot2.png [18:02] can someone help me i am trying to make an http-based installation, i have downloaded all 3 types of ISOs, as well as used apt-mirror, but none of them produce an "installer-amd64" directory which is required for a network-based installation. i am behind a proxy so can't use public ones. has anyone done this? [18:02] Ascavasaion: only if you give details [18:02] What's wrong with my graphics settings here? http://www.bryansalisbury.com/statics/screenshot2.png [18:02] list [18:03] i can't find the correct option to output that one using awk dr_willis [18:03] Bam_Bam: 2x lcd screens? [18:03] installed in ubuntu using apt, some plugins don't start. Thre's update available, but running apt-get upgrade / update didn't get it. from what i read it could also relate to the java version. Ideas? [18:03] MrElendig, yeah? [18:03] Bam_Bam: switch to dvi cable if you can [18:04] they're both on DVI [18:04] MrElendig: now i just need to understand the report i got back: "/dev/sda6/: clean, 11/12943360 files, 860269/51764736 blocks" does that mean the partition is good? [18:04] hm, lying gui crud is lying then [18:04] Bam_Bam: what driver are you using? [18:04] well, one is DVI and one is HDMI-DVI [18:04] sunson: Okay, I have a small network at home, At most 5-6 PCs. One is running Apache with default HTML document. I want to access it remotely from another laptop at work say. I do not understand how to enter the port forwarding info into the ADSL router. [18:04] MrElendig, the nvidia one [18:04] Chraz_Ritt: most likely [18:04] Bam_Bam: use nvidia-settings then [18:04] version-current [18:04] SunTsu: : Okay, I have a small network at home, At most 5-6 PCs. One is running Apache with default HTML document. I want to access it remotely from another laptop at work say. I do not understand how to enter the port forwarding info into the ADSL router. [18:04] hi! is there any way to disable the dock autohide in 11.10 without install ccsm? [18:04] btw is there a way to get the bleeding edge packages for alsa and alsa-driver? [18:05] Bam_Bam: and enable twinview [18:05] filippo: check ppa [18:05] cause my card that has a alc670 codec doesn't work [18:06] MrElendig, they are in twinview [18:06] Ascavasaion, make sure you assign the machine with the apache server a static ip (or a reserved dhcp one); then forward port 80 on WAN to port 80 on LAN to ip of apache server [18:07] MrElendig, ok! [18:07] MrElendig: i'm back to wondering why the unwanted and unaccessable data has survived multiple reformattings even to other file systems, and even 2 rounds of partition deletion. [18:07] MrElendig, is there anyway I can test the settings without logging out and back in? [18:07] hm, that error doesn't look like it's comming from nvidia-setttings at all [18:07] Ascavasaion: as we don't know your adsl router we can't help you, and that's no ubuntu problem either [18:08] BTW, the deletions have been done both in windows 7, and in ubuntu [18:08] Chraz_Ritt: dd if=/dev/zero of=/your/partion will nuke everything [18:08] but it will also take a long time :) [18:08] Ascavasaion: normally you need to enter which incoming port you want to forward to which remote ip and remote port [18:08] phlak_user: It keeps opening up the router's setup. [18:08] hiho, i have problems with my sound card. i can't capture from line in, could anyone help please? [18:08] Chraz_Ritt: data doesn't really dissapear untill you actually overwrite it [18:08] SunTsu: Okies, I thought as much. Thank you. [18:08] Ascavasaion, thats because you have allowed WAN access to router config [18:09] Ascavasaion, so you can either disable that or forward port 800 on WAN to 80 on LAN (so to connect from external, you will have to specify port as 800 i.e. http://ip-of-router:800) [18:10] MrElendig, is there anyway I can test the settings without logging out and back in? [18:10] what does this command ? : dd if=/dev/zero of=/your/partion will nuke everything Chraz_Ritt [18:10] Ascavasaion, and in any case dont test this from within the LAN; it wont work [18:10] nvidia-settings changes the settings on the fly [18:10] Gparted is reporting that there is 3.28gb used in the partition, will that just be overwritten when i install ubuntu there? [18:10] Has anybody successfully installed gnome shell themes? I can't seem to get it to work. [18:11] roasted_, using gnome-tweak-tool to select them? [18:11] MrElendig, but I'm not having a problem with that. The error shows up when I log in. If I click the button and restart nautilus all my icons/themes come back [18:11] phlak_user, yeah, that's what I thought. I'm talking about the GNOME SHELL Themes though. I can install GTK3 themes fine. But when I select an actual shell theme to install it just doesnt respond. [18:12] hmm, the error doesn't look to be from nvidia-settings at all :7 [18:12] roasted_, how did you install them? [18:12] phlak_user: Thank you... that is what the problem was. I just did it with my cell phone and it works. I never realised that if I did it internally to the LAN it would not work. [18:12] Ascavasaion, yw [18:13] olaaaa [18:14] phlak_user, within the tweak tool. theres an option [18:14] Can you help me please? http://pastebin.ubuntu-gr.org/m5ec40b89 [18:14] olaaaaa [18:14] ellou [18:14] !es | usuario [18:14] usuario: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter. [18:14] roasted_, yes [18:14] ola?? [18:15] en español [18:15] tontos [18:16] MrElendig, after all i have done, ubuntu still is showing a folder in that partition, shouldn't the data be invisible to a normal view of the partition? shouldn't it look like the partition is empty? [18:17] Chraz_Ritt: that folder is there automatically as it is a folder where "lost and found" data is stored... [18:17] Is it possible to install an alternative to unity? [18:17] ahhhh [18:18] Chraz_Ritt: like inodes that got lost, because they got unreferenced while doing fsck, fsck puts them there [18:18] so you can recover the data they contain [18:18] Hi, my external hard-drive mounts with a '_ [18:18] so i've been chasing my tail over nothing? [18:18] I thought that there still was stuff in it, that's why I recommended badblocks [18:18] Chraz_Ritt: yeah, looks like it [18:19] Hi, my external hard-drive mounts with a '_' at the end of the name. and not with its proper name 'ST_JEROME' [18:19] ah guys, need help: shot down my interface, grafics are destroyed. ubuntu/gnome unusable like this. how can I revert to system defaults? [18:19] gparted is saying that it's taking up 3.28gb, so i thought it had stuff in it [18:20] !notunity | manbra_linux [18:20] manbra_linux: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic [18:20] Chraz_Ritt: er, no, that's just a combination of meta data and reserved percentage for root [18:20] zykotick9, thank you. [18:21] I love ubuntu, but unity is horrible - I didn't feel like switching OSs [18:21] cari_veri_epdsk, move the directories .compiz-1 .gconf .config .gnome* to some safe place and re login [18:21] ok, so id i devide that partition into 2 parts there will be the same space used in both? [18:21] manbra_linux, if you don't love unity you should investigate other distros [18:22] Chraz_Ritt: depends on how you split it up, but the sum will be nearly the same [18:22] and it really makes no difference if it is showing that way? [18:22] oh [18:22] drake01: ok. I already did with .compiz-1 .gconf . *coming back soon [18:22] zykotick9, I wouldn't be able to remove it? [18:22] Chraz_Ritt: it's not really wasted space, and you can tune the percentage that's reserved for root [18:23] manbra_linux, no no - you can. But why use a distro that's using an interface you don't want? [18:23] Why can remote desktop viewer on my 10.04 auto find [18:24] Why can remote desktop viewer on my 10.04 auto find other machines on the network when my 11.10 can not? And is there something I can do? [18:24] ok, now with nearly 200gb of hdd space to work with how many partitions would you recommend for an ubuntu installation, i already have a swap partition set aside === tom-ubuntu2 is now known as tom-ubuntu [18:25] Chraz_Ritt: as I said before I would just use root and home, having more partitions only makes sense if you want to fine tune stuff [18:25] zykotick9, ubuntu hasn't caused many problems save for unity. And I figure there will be more support forums/I'll have an easier time googling problems for a more widely used OS [18:26] Chraz_Ritt: 2 partitions is enough if you ask me [18:26] Investigating other distros based on dislike for Unity is one of the most backwards things I've ever heard of. [18:26] manbra_linux, that's a good point actually, Ubuntu is popular - and thus has many support options. Stick with Ubuntu then. [18:26] Ubuntu has solid support for XFCE, KDE, LXDE, Gnome Shell, and the list goes on and on. [18:26] SunTsu, which should be the smaller, and how small can it be made? [18:26] Why, OH WHY, you would ditch an entire distro because you don't want to quickly and easily install another desktop environment is something that is totally beyond me. [18:26] roasted_, "solid support" that's funny ;) [18:27] Chraz_Ritt: er, you don#t have any grasp on what those do, right? [18:27] Hello again all. Multi-monitor problem again [18:27] zykotick9, It's not meant to be comical. [18:28] zykotick9, I use gnome shell. I love gnome shell. Does tha tmean I should switch to Fedora because it comse with Gnome Shell by default? [18:28] Chraz_Ritt: root or / holds all your system, /home holds all your personal data and config [18:28] zykotick9, no, I can easily do that on Ubuntu by taking up no more than 6 seconds of my time. [18:28] actually no, most of my linux use has been using puppylinux, and that is another ball of wax when it comes to storage === hexacode is now known as Guest72835 [18:28] zykotick9, I would never suggest that somebody switch distros because of a desktop environment that is already supported. [18:28] Roasted, could you elaborate " Ubuntu has solid suppor" [18:28] Sorry, I'm a linux noob. [18:28] I have onboard Intel (3100) and Geforce FX 5600 pci card. The intel shows nothing, but the pci card works fine. When the pci card is removed the intel works fine. I have open source drivers on the pci card. Any possible answers? [18:29] PuppyLinux is more then a ball of wax... its more like a tangled ball of xmas tree lights.. :) [18:29] manbra_linux, Ubuntu supports an array of different desktop environments. [18:29] "sudo service lightdm stop" drops me to char mode, but it is like 132 or so columns - tiny font. how do I reset it to 80x25? [18:29] manbra_linux, If you don't like Unity, you can install other desktop environments. [18:29] roasted_, oh. Which would you recommend? [18:29] CarlFK: the fbset or fbmode command perhaps.. might not be insalled by default [18:29] I have square text during boot and then nothing on a ubuntu server 11.10 box after fresh install. i installed sshd during the install so i do have access. any ideas how to fix? [18:30] boot loader and bios are fine [18:30] I just want a start button with my apps/system settings, a bar with all the open apps, and a notifcation area. Just a simple windows like desktop : / [18:30] TheTaLlesT: try the nomodeset option perhaps. [18:30] !nomodeset [18:30] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [18:30] TheTaLlesT, if you have sshd, then i guess you have everything :) [18:30] manbra_linux: sounds like Lubuntu/lxde. [18:30] dr_willis, does frame buffer even apply these days? isn't it a grub setting for console resolution? (i'm just curious, i don't bother playing with console resolutions - default always works fine for me) [18:30] i would still like to fix [18:30] Chraz_Ritt: my base system takes up around 15 to 20 Gig, I would leave nearly the same to be on the safe side, the rest goes into /home [18:30] manbra_linux, I personally like gnome shell. I'm on 11.10 right now with gnome shell. I just installed it, logged out, hit hte gear icon and selected "Gnome" and logged in. [18:30] manbra_linux, it depends what you're after. You don't like Unity - why? Maybe what you DONT like about Unity would help steer you towards one you do like. [18:30] TheTaLlesT, also, please be aware that Server installs do not have a GUI [18:30] zykotick9: you could try the nofb option also. Yes i do think the fb is used.. [18:31] roasted_, I am on gnome shell right now [18:31] When I try to extend my displays with catalyst control center, as soon as I save the changes, the ccc just goes away but the displays stays completely as is [18:31] yes i know but a terminal if i want it is nice [18:31] zykotick9, im fairly sure that the grub and fb resolutions are different [18:31] bbl. bed time. [18:31] manbra_linux, do you not like it? [18:31] grub has a res option yes.. or you can set grub to a text mode. [18:31] in /etc/default/grub [18:31] hello guys [18:31] SunTsu, thanks for the advice [18:31] roasted_, not really. I want a bar on the bottom with the different apps that I have open [18:31] TheTaLlesT, what do you get when you press ctl+alt+f1 or f2 [18:31] then the console can hae a framebuffer, or normal text mode, [18:31] night all [18:32] same nothing [18:32] I have onboard Intel (3100) and Geforce FX 5600 pci card. The intel shows nothing, but the pci card works fine. When the pci card is removed the intel works fine. I have open source drivers on the pci card. Any possible answers? [18:32] And I want a minimize, window, and full screen button on my app menus. Not just a close button. Those are my only complaints, really [18:32] Chraz_Ritt: leaving more space is a good idea because you expect the system to grow and upgrading might need lots of extra space [18:32] CarlFK, try setting grub to kernel option vga=. whatever can be found by first using vga=asj [18:32] manbra_linux, well, all I can say is, using gnome shell has made me a solid believer. I hated it at first. Now I love it. BUT... if you want a "classic" design you can either install XFCE or use Gnome Classic. [18:32] asj/ask [18:32] manbra_linux, when you install gnome shell, gnome classic becomes a viable option at the login screen [18:33] Gnome classic doesn't work for me. It just shows a blank desktop, no icons [18:33] and no menus [18:33] !notunity [18:33] Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic [18:33] w30: like that, but rather do it at the command prompt - it's a temporary thing [18:33] sudo: add-apt-repository: command not found why? [18:33] manbra_linux, I'd try XFCE then, known as Xubuntu-Desktop in the software center. [18:33] manbra_linux, I've been having issues too [18:33] SunTsu, so i would be planning well if i made that partition even a bit bigger than 20gb? [18:33] roasted_, thank you for the help. [18:33] CarlFK, dono [18:34] say 25, or 30gb? [18:34] Chraz_Ritt: with 200G HDD I'd use 50g for /, 150G for /home. Filesystems tend to slow down when they get to full [18:34] s/to/too/ [18:35] TheTaLlesT, can you check if you have getty running? ps -fe|grep getty should tell you [18:35] dr_willis: you know something about this.. seems there is only one valid mode? http://dpaste.de/NeFDA/ [18:35] i understood you, even if you used the wrong word form [18:35] Chraz_Ritt, do you have a reason to not just use the full space for /? [18:36] zykotick9: people around here advised him not to, because having /home is a wise thing when it comes to re-installing the system for some reason [18:36] people around here including me, that is [18:36] zykotick9, it was suggested to preserve my data when an upgrade came out. [18:37] SunTsu, that's questionable in many cases. When programs get upgraded the config files in ~ can cause issues. [18:37] w30: thanks though. [18:37] SunTsu: its handy for user data. No need to restore from backup [18:37] zykotick9: never had issues with that, aside that ~ is more than just config files [18:37] wouldn't tha depend on where the config files are stored? [18:37] Chraz_Ritt, well that makes some sense, but I'd be careful, my / is over 56G currently (without a lot of big stuff installed) [18:38] ActionParsnip: yeah, that's why I suggested it ;) [18:38] yes i do [18:38] zykotick9: no seperate /home? [18:38] phlak_user, yes i do [18:38] hi all : i want to edit commands of the default keyboard shortcut in unity not the shortcut its self , can somebody help me ? [18:38] MrElendig, nope - and that does account for 41G [18:38] No one method is perfect sadly [18:39] zykotick9: always seperate user data from /, it can save you from losing all your pron :p [18:39] zykotick9: 56gb? what do you have that takes up that much space? vms? [18:39] lol [18:39] MrElendig: you're raising a valid point ;) [18:39] also the bad things that tend to happen if you fill up / [18:39] phlak_user, i added the nomodeset option and it said it did not recognize it but i got text at the terminal i still have squares during boot [18:39] i cant install sensors-applet in ubuntu 11.10 [18:40] im have a problem with mic not working in 11.10 [18:40] korn788: what is the problem? [18:41] everything works with the soundcard but mic [18:41] where do I change the number of desktops ? [18:41] hello [18:41] korn788: is it part of a laptop? [18:41] Pelo, ccsm - General - Desktop Size tab [18:41] no desktop [18:41] Pelo: depends on thw window manager [18:41] does it make a difference which has the lower partition number? [18:41] I've noticed a bunch of regressions since I upgraded to oneiric [18:42] Chraz_Ritt: If you really want to be on the safe side you could use lvm for your disk which allows you to resize stuff if things don't work out as expected [18:42] Chraz_Ritt: no [18:42] my card is a sb live vaule ct4832 [18:42] in particular, skype has stopped working and gnome-shell isn't rendering the overview properly [18:42] Chraz_Ritt: doesnt make a difference [18:42] zykotick9, thanks MrElendig it was compiz I was going for the cube [18:42] phlak_user, could it be the nouveau driver? i have an nvidia card in there [18:42] hi all : i want to edit commands of the default keyboard shortcut in unity not the shortcut its self , can somebody help me ? [18:43] mdgeorge, most of them might have to do with gnome3 instead of gnome 2.X [18:43] korn788: run: alsamixer are all levels cranked and unmuted [18:43] * Pelo is realy not liking oneric [18:43] yea [18:43] i have ran that [18:43] TheTaLlesT, do you also have an onboard video card? [18:43] Does 11.10 installer handle everything automatically when installing on SSD, or is there something that needs to be doen by hand? Like before I think that it was recommended to do partitioning before to assure they are aligned to 4k sectors [18:43] phlak_user, no [18:43] how install sensors-applet in ubuntu 11.10? [18:44] whats weird is that the capture works because i can monitor myself but i cant record with it [18:44] korn788: does the system have onboard sound too? Or is the creative thing the only sound card? [18:44] phlak_user, its a nvidia 5200 [18:44] can I get the old gnome menu back, I mean the one with app,places and "SYSTEM" , i'm realy missing the SYSTEM part [18:44] no it have onboard but i have the same problem [18:45] korn788: do you use the onboard? [18:45] !nounity | Pelo [18:45] Pelo: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic [18:45] phlak_user, i have no problems with older ubuntu and other linux distros i have tried with and without a gui === Evixion` is now known as Evixion [18:46] Gentoo64, alreay have that installed , the default gnome menu is just not the same, it lacks system [18:46] ah ok im not sure then [18:47] i think you click on your name instead [18:47] TheTaLlesT, umm - can you change/add this entry in /etc/default/grub GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480 and then run update-grub2 and reboot [18:47] * Pelo should probably give unity a chance but it seems wrong on a desktop [18:47] SunTsu, 1 more question for now, ext 3 or ext 4, which should i use? [18:47] Chraz_Ritt: I'd go with ext4 [18:47] dont blame you for liking the old style gnome [18:47] Gentoo64, yeah, but it's not the same kind fo system menu, the old one had more stuff in it [18:47] Pelo: there are plenty of alternative desktops [18:48] well this is the way gnome is now... [18:48] Hi, I have lost my root password by removing it in the system settings. Can someone help? [18:48] sotdan, you dont need a root password in any case [18:48] !noroot | sotdan [18:48] !root | sotdan [18:48] sotdan: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information. [18:48] sotdan: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [18:48] Gentoo64, it's probably gonna drive Linus to xcfe [18:48] phlak_user, thats just for grub right? i dont have any problem with grub showing [18:48] ok i got dc [18:49] im the same guy about the sound problem [18:49] TheTaLlesT, oh ok, i thought you said you could see only squares [18:49] korn788: do you use the onboard sound? [18:49] phlak_user, after the bootloader [18:49] no [18:49] phlak_user, when ubuntu is booting [18:49] ok, so I mean my login and sudo password [18:49] on a different note, does anyone know how to fix conky ? mine is all out of alignment since the upgrade [18:49] SunTsu, normally i would have just gone with the newer fs, but the info on the ubuntu page only mentions ext2, and ext3, so i had some doubt there [18:49] korn788_: then I suggest you disable it in BIOS [18:50] Pelo: screenshot [18:50] ok [18:50] then go from there [18:50] ok well im going to reboot and try the bios thing [18:50] hi all [18:50] Chraz_Ritt, ext4 is stable and the norm [18:50] does any console text editor show line numbers? [18:50] SmJ, vim [18:50] moving .config .gconf etc did not work out. theme grafics / interface all is broken. :( [18:50] phlak_user, why i was wondering if its a gfx driver. does the server version have any? [18:51] in vimrc put "show number" [18:51] if you want it permanent [18:51] Two video cards, one onboard Intel 3100 and one PCI Geforce 5600. When PCI card is plugged in, the Intel won't show up in "displays". I want to stretch my desktop across them. When you remove the PCI card, the Intel works fine. Anyone have any idea what's wrong? [18:51] I've lost my login password by removing it in the system settings, and now I can't set it [18:51] Pelo: unity is an ubuntu product. If you use other gnome3 based distros they will use gnome-shell more than likely [18:51] thanks again [18:51] SmJ, set number, sorry [18:52] sotdan, you can still use sudo -i though cant you? [18:52] TheTaLlesT, sorry but i gotta go; in any case, if the X server isnt getting started, the gfx driver doesnt have much role. it should be the console vga mode (in earlier kernels/grubs vga=791 helpd) [18:52] ActionParsnip, gnome-shell is installed, I just find gnome3 lacking in simplicity [18:52] phlak_user, ok thx [18:52] Gentoo64: no, I try to write in my old password and it's not accepted [18:52] oh ok [18:53] I may take a look at vim but 'nano -c' seems to be enough [18:53] hey guys. please: it seems to me as if there are too themes fighting each other when I login to ubuntu/gnome desktop . can I reset this to factory default? [18:53] the settings window must have somehow set a new sudo password [18:53] Pelo: i see. I've been and LXDE and KDE kinda guy. I find gnome too fussy. It has to do a little dance before it does anything [18:53] sotdan, sudo password is the user password [18:53] you either need your user password, or a root acount to change it [18:54] my user password isn't accepted anymore [18:54] What is gnome-shell? [18:54] do you know how to get a static transcharacteristic of an emitter foloower [18:54] follower [18:54] dddbmt, its the gnome version of unity [18:54] auronandace, http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/capturedu20111027145022.png/ [18:54] dddbmt, gnome-shell is the new Gnome3 interface [18:54] !gnome3 | dddbmt [18:54] dddbmt: GNOME 3 is the desktop environment on which Unity is based. To use GNOME Shell instead of Unity, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". GNOME 3 is not supported under Natty/11.04, and may break your system if installed from alternate sources. [18:54] sotdan, what did you do? have you tried a blank password? [18:54] using LT Spice IV [18:54] sotdan: there is a guide at psychocats page on how to reset user passwords [18:55] ActionParsnip, use to be you could rightclick on anything and get options, no longer [18:55] Gentoo64, lol - you mean Unity is Ubuntu's version of gnome-shell (as it was 1st) [18:55] :p [18:55] idk what came first tbh [18:55] where can I set hotkeys ? [18:55] do you know how to get a transcharacteristic IN/OUT using LT Spice IV [18:55] It never ceases to amaze me how well ubuntu can perform with so little RAM. [18:55] Gentoo64: blank password didn't word either [18:55] Gentoo64, gnome-shell [18:55] yeh [18:55] I'll look for that guide, thanks [18:55] Pelo: interesting [18:56] Pelo: still works here. You can even rightclick the unity bar items for a cheeky menu [18:56] auronandace, that's a bit unhelpfull [18:56] i think the right click thing sometimes works sometimes dont [18:56] buggy [18:56] ok so i turned off the onboard sound still did nothing [18:57] Pelo: how about your conky config file? [18:57] Gentoo64, zykotick9, auronandace, thank you. Why have Ubuntu switched to Unity? Is it to prefer? [18:58] auronandace, http://pastebin.com/UsYLZPca [18:58] dddbmt, its their own thing [18:58] !password | sotdan [18:58] sotdan: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords [18:58] dddbmt: they didn't agree with the way gnome3 was going [18:58] dddbmt: you can use gnome-shell if you want a replacement [18:59] auronandace, I'm the kind of copy/paste coding, this is a heavily modified conkyrc from one of nice ones on gnomelook.org [18:59] is there anything i can do [18:59] they both have a big panel on the left... theyre pretty similar tbh [18:59] auronandace, actually gnome didn't agree with the suggestions made by Canonical, so they had to create a new interface (is closer to the truth) [18:59] Gentoo64: If you're still interested, what I did was I set my account to "no password" in system settings. After that I couldn't set a password again and sudo stopped working. [18:59] I'll reset my password from root, though [19:00] Jilly: use a light desktop and it runs even better :-) === napster is now known as Guest3197 [19:00] kanas ellinas? [19:00] milw ellinika egw [19:00] Pelo: i suspect its all the offsets in there, looks rather ugly and specific [19:00] sotdan: the psychocats site will help [19:01] It did === Xano_ is now known as Xano [19:01] Hello my fellow Ubuntu inmates :-) [19:01] auronandace, not sure I get your meaning [19:01] uparxei kapoio kanali pou na asxoleitai me computer forensics? [19:01] I trust you all are doing well. [19:01] sander_, hi [19:01] ActionParsnip, not necessarelly, I've just installed Unity with 11.10 - so think I'll try it out. I'll try find a list of the big differences if there is such thing. [19:01] sandra_, ^ [19:01] den kserw Guest [19:01] !gr | Guest3197 [19:01] Guest3197: #ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές / #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes [19:01] Gentoo64, Hello [19:02] Pelo: read the file, see al the "voffset -somenumber"? that is ugly [19:02] dddbmt: no harm in that [19:02] I really need to change my tab thing so it goes by who most recently spoke [19:02] its just so weird that i can monitor myself but cant record with it [19:02] Guest3197 is asking if there's any channel about computer forensics [19:02] ActionParsnip, but thanks! :) [19:02] auronandace, granted it's not elegant but that 's the only way I could get it to work ... before [19:02] sotdan: which is no ubuntu problem, right? [19:02] SunTsu: True [19:02] !alis | Guest3197 [19:03] Guest3197: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* [19:03] auronandace, otherwise it took to much vertical space [19:03] Pelo: then you are going to have to find the right offset values, have fun with that [19:03] I have a problem! I'm using 11.10 and it was everything perfectly and after installing Eclipse i reboot and now i can't start ubuntu in graphic mode... It's constantly loop my login...(login is ok) [19:03] auronandace, lovely [19:03] I would like to ask if there is a good article that provides a step by step process that explains how to install nvidia 290.3 into Ubuntu 11.10 Thanks so much [19:03] any advice [19:03] thanks a lot [19:03] ;) [19:03] i just put in an ubuntu 11 cd in a laptop,and did "try ubuntu". I want to run fsck on the drive in the laptop [19:03] sandra_, from the website [19:04] sandra_, do you *need* that version? [19:04] nvidia can cause all sorts of issues.. id wait a while if you dont [19:04] hmm i might have solved the issue i and 1000's of others have, with no fix [19:05] time to test [19:05] thanks folks, later [19:05] Gentoo64, I did google the subject but didn't find anything aside from using PPA's which I do now wish to do at this juncuture yet. [19:05] Two video cards, one onboard Intel 3100 and one PCI Geforce 5600. When PCI card is plugged in, the Intel won't show up in "displays". I want to stretch my desktop across them. When you remove the PCI card, the Intel works fine. Anyone have any idea what's wrong? [19:05] sandra_, whats wrong with the current driver? [19:05] sotdan, funny thing happend to me. I could not log in at gui login screen as me. I found $HOME/.Xdefaults had some how been set to owner root [19:06] I'm using 11.10 and it was everything perfectly and after installing Eclipse i reboot and now i can't start ubuntu in graphic mode... It's constantly loop my login...(login is ok) [19:06] Why 8001 port is not working !? [19:06] hey w30 i think i have same problem [19:06] Hello I'm using Apple keyword, so now when I press F buttons like F12 I get function keys like F12 = volume up F11 = volume down. How can I make it not use it's function but press f12 when I press f12 ? [19:06] w30, stoneman are either of you using sudo with GUI apps? If so, don't in future, use gksu instead. [19:07] Gentoo64, Yes I need nvidia 290.03 the current default drivers provided are buggy and from what I read nvida 290.03 driver has the bug fixes I need. [19:07] How know which version of gnome is currently installed !? [19:07] zykotick9, I use gksu exclusively [19:08] I am completely new to Ubuntu, what are the most important commands to learn when beginning in Ubuntu? [19:08] zykotick9, mostly sudo -i from terminal [19:08] !manual | Chado [19:08] Chado: The Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/ [19:08] sandra_, 290 isnt even on nvidias website as stable or beta... [19:08] w30, ok, just checking. It's common for sudo with GUI apps to mess up permissions in users home directory [19:08] any chance to know what is the best ICQ client for Ubuntu? [19:08] w30, if you use sudo -i then start a gui app - it could break things as well. [19:08] jhgjhg [19:09] zykotick9, thanks, man [19:09] Gentoo64, I dowloaded w/out any issues. [19:09] sandra_, link? [19:09] Hi...any tips for getting a fakeraid mirrored ntfs volume to work in 11.10? [19:09] Gentoo64, I just need to know how too install it properly w/in Ubuntu 11.10 [19:09] sandra_, if so, then extract it and cd into it, then run sh install.sh [19:09] Gordian|UHMM, pidgin? [19:10] sandra_, "properly" isn't really the right word - as what you are trying isn't "proper". I'd strongly suggest sticking with Ubuntu's nvidia - but do what you wish... [19:10] zykotick9, will do; I mean will not do; heck, you know what I mean.... [19:10] oh! I forgot about this client! Thanks!! [19:10] Gentoo64: Just out of curiosity, do you use ubuntu or gentoo? [19:10] Fredman: just mount it, your os should see disc1, disc2 and array1 [19:10] Fredman: is there any reason why you can't reformat the volume to ext4? [19:10] Gordian|UHMM, np :) [19:10] X-tonic, gentoo [19:10] Why 8001 port is not working !? [19:11] tomay, open it? [19:11] !doesntwork | tomay [19:11] tomay: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too. [19:11] zykotick9, I just would like to know how to install it into Ubuntu 11.10 is there a good way of doing it ? [19:11] tomay, ufw allow and router [19:11] Chaz_ritt: 0,75TB of stuff :) [19:11] Gordian|UHMM: there is no single best app for anything [19:11] sander_, "a good way" probably not. Best of luck - i can't/won't help with this. [19:11] Fredman: you are using windows on dualboot? [19:12] stoneman, terminal login works. ctrl alt Fn [19:12] iceroot: yup :) [19:12] anyone having issues playing pandora.com in Firefox 7? Ubuntu 11.10 [19:12] sandra_, which nvidia card ? [19:12] Fredman: ah ok, then thats the only reason to use fakeraid :) [19:12] Gordian|UHMM: its as intelligent as asking what the best colour is.. [19:12] sandra_, what bugs are affecting you btw? or do you just want the latest version? [19:12] ActionParsnip: green [19:12] it's true :) [19:12] )))))))))) [19:12] oh sorry )))) [19:13] any news for NVIDIA Optimus techology and Ubuntu ?? [19:13] Fredman, can you non-destructively resize the volume? [19:13] ))))) [19:13] Gordian|UHMM: try a few, see which you like [19:13] OMG I am getting ready to shoot this server. Do I have to do something special to enable .flv files to play through apache2? flv is in /etc/mime.types and everything but it keeps telling me I don't have Adobe Flash Installed when I know I do [19:13] iceroot: well, I thought the onboard raid-0 option was a good idea until I tried to access it from within 11.10 :) [19:13] stoneman, i hear it causes problems [19:13] stoneman: go to github and check out bumblebee [19:13] PhantomPhreak53: that has nothing to do with apache [19:13] Gentoo64, at this time I would just like to know how to install nvidia latest driver lol [19:13] iceroot: AndChat highlights in green. Nice choice [19:13] iceroot: dmraid -ay sees *something* but it's not actually mountable [19:13] Fredman: raid0 is always a bad idea [19:14] sandra_, like i said, extract the file, cd into it (in terminal) run ls -a and you'll see an install.sh [19:14] so... sh install.sh [19:14] iceroot: Apache calls on /etc/mime.types but I can't figure this out [19:14] !raid | Fredman [19:14] Gentoo64, ufw !? [19:14] Fredman: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto [19:14] Fredman, i thought you were wanting to install ubuntu on the volume, my bad === kd7jwc is now known as shantorn [19:14] PhantomPhreak53: apache is just provifing that file, the rest is done by the browser [19:14] I've all ready tried to see if the bugs in the current Ubuntu nvidia driver could be corrected but that was a fruitless pursuit [19:14] i'm using bumblebee but i can't set it to work good.. this Dell N5110 is not made for linux ... [19:14] Chaz_Ritt: nah, I just need to access it, I have separate SSDs for Win764 and 11.10 :) [19:15] :) [19:15] tomay, ubuntu comes with ufw, if you enabled it youll have to open the port on that too. sudo ufw status verbose [19:15] ah still fails [19:15] Chaz_Ritt: np ;_ [19:15] stoneman: there is an official doc. Search for: hybrid graphics ubuntu the top hit may help [19:15] PhantomPhreak53: it doesnt matter if you put mpeg, mp3, avi, exe or other stuff inside apache, all done by the browser [19:15] ok i will try... [19:15] but still can't fix this problem [19:15] PhantomPhreak53: the types in apache are just for the icons shown by the dir-browser-plugin [19:15] with GUI [19:15] still can't start [19:16] sandra_, is this a proprietary driver from the nvidia site ? [19:16] Hello there. [19:16] sandra_, what bugs? [19:16] are they even affecting you? [19:16] iceroot: do you have any other ideas? [19:16] PhantomPhreak53: what is the current problem? [19:16] PhantomPhreak53: browser is not playing that file? [19:16] PhantomPhreak53: then install flash on clientside [19:17] Gentoo64, sudo ufw status verbose ===============> Status: inactive [19:17] stoneman: I've not used it and am avoiding it like the plague. Id have got the link for you but it'd have taken longer than i can show how to find it [19:17] iceroot: I have flash installed [19:17] sandra_, the biggest problem with using nvidia's driver (direct from nvidia's site), IF something goes wrong, it can be difficult to remove from your system properly. Best of luck though. [19:17] tomay, ok. do you use a router? if so, open the port on that [19:17] PhantomPhreak53: you can watch youtibe videos? [19:17] iceroot: yup [19:17] changing my icon theme makes the search bar on my software center go away [19:17] PhantomPhreak53: link to that file? [19:17] Anyone can give me some advice about installing 11.10 with Win7? I have tried via the liveCD but, the installer doesnt seems to recognice the windows installation, despite its able to see all the partitions.... little bit weird. [19:18] venomcode, rebooting might randomly fix it, or have you done that [19:18] Gentoo64, I am using D-LINK router [19:18] Gentoo64, as a gentoo user what would you do if when your screen shut off ( instead of screensaver ) and you werent able to get back to the desktop unless you rebooted or went standby and woke it up again? [19:18] tomay, log into it [19:18] well i change the icon set [19:18] and [19:18] some make it disappear [19:18] some dont [19:18] venomcode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [19:18] Satanaa: recompile the whole system is the answer :) [19:18] Essence: resize the ntfs in windows7 then install to the free space [19:18] Satanaa, huh? [19:18] but havnt tried rebooting after i make the change [19:18] iceflatline, and if that didnt change anything? [19:18] so, its a common issue? [19:19] err iceroot [19:19] Essence, have you made partitions for your ubuntu installation? [19:19] Satanaa: noone nows because it takes days to recompile everything and when that is finshed, you forogt the initial problem .) [19:19] heh :p [19:19] changing my icon theme makes the search bar on my software center go away, any ideas [19:19] and then its does it again iceroot [19:20] i just finished recompiling my whole comp a second ago took 1 hour [19:20] where can I go for questions about the amd drivers within ubuntu? [19:20] No, i havent, im trying to use the isntaller and the magic option " Install with other SO". [19:20] Gentoo64, just me and 1000's of other ubuntu users that have an issue there is no fix for [19:20] Essence: no idea. I've not seen it much I guess. I'm not windows user. You could chkdsk your ntfs to be sure its healthy [19:20] Gentoo64: just because you are not using libreoffice from source and not using kde from source and so on :) [19:20] Satanaa, youll prob have to wait [19:20] Ok, thanks ActionParsnip [19:20] iceroot, kde takes 45 mins. but no i dont use it [19:20] i got told that this issue were in 11.04 too, but the devs are busy with 12.04 :P [19:21] Gentoo64: hm thats fast [19:21] iceroot, chromium is a beast though [19:21] anyone having issues playing pandora.com in Firefox 7? Ubuntu 11.10 [19:21] ~30 mins [19:21] Satanaa: both are equally developed and supported [19:21] Gentoo64: i just remember openoffice with 6 hours [19:21] changing my icon theme makes the search bar on my software center go away, any ideas? [19:21] Всем привет [19:21] ActionParsnip, but 11.10 should have most of the focus hehe [19:21] Ouh.. I am sorry [19:22] Satanaa: no [19:22] hello! [19:22] Satanaa: all are equal [19:22] iceroot, my comp isnt amazing.. i5 750 4gb ram. libreoffice takes about 40 mins [19:22] Essence, i'm in the process of setting up my partitions for my installation, I have never tried to do an install of any flavor of linux without having the partitions in place first. [19:22] hey there anyone can help in how to boot my existing partition of win 7 with vmware in Ubuntu / ;0 [19:22] andyvy: tried another browser? [19:22] iceroot, all then? :P [19:22] iceroot, maybe the ssd helps idk [19:22] Gentoo64: i think so [19:22] Satanaa, put a forum thread in or are there loads? [19:22] iceroot, ignore "unstable" if "stable" is borked :) [19:22] alexandrosorodio: #vmware for the first part [19:22] alexandrosorodio: i'd ask in #vmware [19:22] !mount | alexandrosorodio (for the second part) [19:22] alexandrosorodio (for the second part): mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount [19:23] Gentoo64, loads, with no replies [19:23] Its probably the best way Chraz_Ritt ; you are right. But im not sure about how to make them. [19:23] Can you help me with my problem? I have Ubuntu 11.10 and i want to develop flash applications there. Where i used Windows i do it with FlashDevelop. What is the alt in Ubuntu? [19:23] hi! [19:23] I mean, im able to resize the ntfs , but not specify mount and such. [19:23] Satanaa, the bug list is probably massive for 11.10 [19:23] ok so im at the point where im ready to break this thing..... i try to add user to apache2 and get the response "user" does not exist [19:23] have been looking trugh it, most of those issues are minor tho [19:24] Dames: flash is proprietary so you'll need the adobe product [19:24] youre not supposed to reboot linux every 10 mins :P [19:24] Dames, i doubt there are many tools in gnu/linux for developing of the closed source flash [19:24] Can you tell me some of them? [19:24] is it possible to use memtest (as packaged/installed for oneiric) on 64 bit systems booting with UEFI? I believe it is not [19:24] take my centos installs.. 2 years uptime etc :P [19:24] ActionParsnip: no, why would I? it's clearly a flash issue. Just wondering if anyone had a solution yet. [19:25] Dames, check winedb to see if the adobe program you used will run [19:25] i looking for a place in Ottawa (canada) whith cool informatque associations ? [19:25] Essence, first you want to make sure that all the data in your win 7 partition is together in the same part of the drive, so you can resize it without losing data, then do a full backup of your win 7 system [19:25] Satanaa, if its a desktop i wouldnt care. i always reboot [19:25] andyvy: think about it. If it works in another browser then you have isolated the issue to firefox. [19:25] developper and other [19:25] "Performing an on-line resize of /dev/rootvg/torrent to 52428800 (4k) blocks." -- How long should I expect this to take? Resizing from 100GB to 200GB [19:25] only takes couple seconds [19:25] hehe i normally do too, every 14th day :) [19:26] how do i get the file list of an _uninstalled_ package available at a repo? e.g. that apt-cache search knows about [19:26] the command im using to add the user is sudo usermod -g www-data [my user name] [19:26] When I sis the same using xfs, it was more or less instant. [19:26] Another question if you guys dont mind; anyone here is using 4 monitors? I've always through problems trying to set up a Desktop on 4 monitors. [19:26] less the brackets [19:26] Essence, do you have the ubuntu live disk? [19:26] Essence, use 2 gpu's :) [19:26] Thanks Chraz_Ritt ; i'll do first some backups. [19:26] (using ext4 in this instance) [19:26] Yes, i have it. [19:26] and it doesnt work? [19:26] Gentoo64, I am just using my neighbor wireless connection (Hacked WEP password using Back | Track), I have to bruteforce his router admin pass. Hahaha [19:27] andyvy: that's why you would. Its part of fault diagnosis. [19:27] bt5 = epic [19:27] ActionParsnip: no really i have same issue in Fedora 15, it's flash related. I've tried Chrome / Chromium. [19:27] Gentoo64, I am just using my neighbor wireless connection (Hacked WEP password using Back | Track), I have to bruteforce his router admin pass. HahahaI am just using my neighbor wireless connection (Hacked WEP password using Back | Track), I have to bruteforce his router admin pass. Hahaha [19:27] I am just using my neighbor wireless connection (Hacked WEP password using Back | Track), I have to bruteforce his router admin pass. HahahaI am just using my neighbor wireless connection (Hacked WEP password using Back | Track), I have to bruteforce his router admin pass. Hahaha [19:27] Satanaa: Obviously :P i use them on Win7, one desktop and 4 monitors, but i've never been able to replicate it on Linux. [19:27] I came back to my laptop to find the screen flickering (as if the refresh rate was off). I then rebooted, and my external display isn't being detected. What gives? [19:27] Essence, i'm using my 50" plasma as a=n extension to my desk top, but i'm not using 4 monitors [19:27] tomay, don't brag about hacking other's routers here , not good practice [19:27] <_spt_> I get no responce from anyone in #ati, but has anyune here had problems with Ubuntu 11.10 and Radeon 5450 card? it goes all stripey when trying to install any ideas? [19:28] tomay, can't you just use upnp? [19:28] need help ! [ mkfs.xfs -i size=1024 /dev/sda6 ] mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sda6: Device or resource busy [19:28] Yeah, i suppose its not the same setup, but thanks Chraz_Ritt :) [19:28] Essence, easy fix: add 1 screen to the first vga/dvi, boot up and shut down, then move the second vga/dvi, startup and shut down.. and do that with all 4 vga/div [19:29] andyvy: can you give a pastebin of the output of: lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark' [19:29] Essence, do you mean the same thing on all 4 monitors? [19:29] then once done with all, then hook all 4 screens up and bootup [19:29] then it should work [19:29] Not a mirror, I mean one desktop extended on four monitors. [19:29] need help ! [ mkfs.xfs -i size=1024 /dev/sda6 ] mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sda6: Device or resource busy [19:29] i don't know how but my ./profile file is empty... and can this be reason why i can't start GUI??? [19:29] Moving the cursor, you know. [19:29] Essence, yes [19:29] _spt_: try the bootoption: radeon.nomodeset=1 [19:30] need help ! using this command [ mkfs.xfs -i size=1024 /dev/sda6 ] it is giving error mkfs.xfs: cannot open /dev/sda6: Device or resource busy [19:30] but start distro up 1 output at the time [19:30] Essence, it sounds like you would just have more to set up than i did is all [19:30] and then when done do it with all outputs [19:30] cloudgeek, is /dev/sda6 already mounted? [19:30] then all 4 monitors work [19:30] ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/ZCMitr5y [19:30] cloudgeek: make sure it isnt mounted [19:30] <_spt_> thanks ActionParsnip [19:30] B0g4r7,Gentoo64: okay [19:30] ActionParsnip don't know how but my ./profile file is empty... and can this be reason why i can't start GUI??? [19:31] the rest is just a setting [19:31] Its not a bad idea Satanaa , but, dont really know why, Linux have never bring me the option to extend the desktop to 4 monitors. [19:31] B0g4r7, what isupnp ? [19:31] it can expand it [19:31] just a setting [19:32] tomay: what program are you trying to run? [19:32] i think my enviroment variables are "deleted"... in ./profile file .. how to fix that [19:32] In a lucky day, all i was able was to extend in 2, and replicate then in other 2 using mirror. [19:32] Essence, a friend uses 8 monitors with debian [19:32] tomay, Universal Plug-n-Play. A protocol for configuring port mappings on routers, among other things. [19:32] 11.10 on an SSD is amazing really... [19:32] andyvy: remove both of those packages. Enable the partner repo in software centre and install adobe-installer and you will get 64bit flash for your 64bit OS [19:33] Cannot allocate memory: fork: Unable to fork new process <--- means I need more physical memory? [19:33] cloudgeek: just umount /dev/sda6 [19:33] Maybe i'll need to give debian a try :P [19:33] cloudgeek: if that dont work try umount -l /dev/sda6 [19:33] Gentoo64, hydra [19:33] okay [19:33] tomay: thc hydra? [19:33] Essence, i doesnt really matter what distro you use hehe [19:33] it* [19:34] can someone pls help me with my sftp i cant seem to log in [19:34] Gentoo64, hydra is a remote brute forcer [19:34] Fredman, Yup. I feel sorry for ppl anymore who haz no SSD. [19:34] tomay: i know. you dont need to open ports to use it [19:34] now i'm starting to think about the other monitor that we have in storage [19:34] Hehe, i know, just kiding. [19:34] Well, thanks guys, gonna make some defrag & partitioning dance, wish me luck. [19:34] Gentoo64, I dont have admin access to that router [19:34] SSD is the best way for happy computing these days :) [19:34] <------has no ssd i feel sorry about this too :P [19:35] Anyone know a good channel to talk/ask questions about visual studio (2010) [19:35] tomay: why do you need a port open? what hydra command are you trying to run? [19:35] Have a nice day. ^_^ ; Thanks again. [19:35] Essence, on my lappy using the live disk it was so easy that i wonder if you can't just go with it now. [19:35] cloudgeek: evenr with umount -l? [19:36] cloudgeek: give it a minute and try it again [19:36] can someone paste content from his ./profile file ??? [19:36] umount -l will wait until its finished doing whatever [19:36] Hello all [19:36] any dell mini 9 users here? [19:37] tomay: ? [19:37] tomay, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Plug_and_Play#NAT_traversal [19:37] The print-to-pdf thing is neat, except if you need to print a really long document. How can I get it to generate more than one page of output? [19:37] hi. ubuntu 11.04 - I tried to setup xampp control panel, but there is no /.local/share/applications folder. xampp doesn't appear on a start bar. how to fix it? [19:37] tomay: hydra is for outgoing attacks, you dont need a port open [19:38] !xampp | experiMENTAL [19:38] experiMENTAL: We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information. [19:38] any Dell mini 9 users [19:38] Gentoo64, The only pupose for all this is to make xchat using 8001 default port for connection, I have to edit all saved servers on xchat using that port, because 8001 port is not open only port 8002 is open [19:38] ie i dont have port 22 open but i could still brute force ssh [19:38] can someone pls help im trying to login to sftp but is bein a faggot :P [19:38] cloudgeek: try the original command again then [19:38] Where can I find the ubuntu font? [19:38] cloudgeek: not sure why its saying its busy if its not mounted [19:38] For my Windows 7 :)) [19:39] Foxhoundz: hang on ill get a link [19:39] oh neve rmind i found it [19:39] ok [19:39] never* [19:39] lol^ [19:39] http://font.ubuntu.com/ [19:39] tried google Foxhoundz¿ [19:39] zykotick9: ty [19:39] Foxhoundz: it looks bad on windows 7 btw ive tried it [19:39] is it worth to upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10 [19:39] Foxhoundz: terrible actually. ubuntu uses all the lcd stuff [19:39] venluckey: Not yet [19:39] wouldnt use windoesnt again :P [19:39] Gentoo64, the D-LINK router is not mine. it is own of my neighbor [19:39] venluckey, Not if you don't like Unity. [19:40] tomay: ok... so your trying to hack into it? [19:40] venluckey, upgrade to 11.10, which just released, and is less buggy [19:40] tomay: lol [19:40] Has anyone tried to force install Gnome 2.x on 11.10? [19:40] Hi all! [19:40] I would really switch to Ubuntu if it didin't have Unity :( [19:40] Foxhoundz: i wouldnt [19:40] didn't* === snake__ is now known as [snake] [19:40] i tried unity, but will it effect xfce [19:40] Anyone knows how to solve this problem on Ubuntu 11.10 : The searchbar from Ubuntu Software Center disappeard ! How can i fade it in again? [19:40] Foxhoundz: mint has gnome 2 [19:40] i think [19:40] Foxhoundz, that's why I'm staying on 11.04. [19:41] bruteforcing a passwd is easy with some python, or even just some bash.. not gonna show you how tho [19:41] They're switching to Gnome 3 as well, gentoo [19:41] they are all switching to gnome 3, because gnome 2 is no longer supported [19:41] !nounity | foxbuntu [19:41] foxbuntu: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic [19:41] Foxhoundz: thats because gnome 3 has been out for a very long time [19:41] its not even new [19:41] sticking with gnome 2 is pointless [19:42] ubuntu already has, fedora already has, suse will in a month, the next debian version will have it when it releases in 1.5 years or so [19:42] !nounity | Foxhoundz [19:42] Foxhoundz: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic [19:42] I just find the new interface restrictive [19:42] I with I could have just the Unity dock without all it's other stuff. [19:42] Foxhoundz: theres other desktops of ubuntu like xubuntu [19:42] I guess xfce is the only other option [19:42] Foxhoundz: kde is like windows 7 (ish) [19:42] I tried KDE, it's quite buggy. [19:42] i love xfce, i just right for my netbook [19:42] Xubuntu it is! [19:42] Foxhoundz: yeah i agree [19:43] Foxhoundz, gnome classic [19:43] Gentoo64, I have already hacked its WEP Key that I am connection using it now, & I have have to hack his router admin pass [19:43] I think I'm gonna end up running OS X on more of my systems really. [19:43] tomay: i really dont think we can discuss this here [19:43] cloudgeek: ok... its not mounted [19:43] :s [19:43] tomay, and you're doing all this why? [19:43] B0g4r7, why would you do that? hehe [19:43] i dont see emerald installed [19:43] tomay: you really dont have a clue what your doing [19:44] lol [19:44] Gentoo64, I concurr. [19:44] !emerald | venomcode [19:44] venomcode: emerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives. [19:44] B0g4r7, Because I don't have connection at home, & I don't have $$$$$ to pay it [19:44] cloudgeek: whats the command you originally wanted to run on the drive? do that [19:44] compiz does the same as emerald today [19:44] im taking the plung, going to update to 11.04 [19:44] Gentoo64, Because I don't have connection at home, & I don't have $$$$$ to pay it [19:45] tomay, using freenode to discuss illegal hacking is against policy, please desist [19:45] venluckey: backup first [19:45] Satanaa, well, not really... [19:45] yeah i will, thanks [19:45] so no more themes? [19:45] tensorpudding, ok, sorry [19:45] zykes-, what part of window decorations doesnt compiz have? [19:45] err [19:45] zykotick9, [19:45] Satanaa, compiz doesn't have the same transparent windows boarders [19:45] cloudgeek: that work now? [19:46] transparency. lol [19:46] what would anyone recommend for backup [19:46] 1. use i3wm. [19:46] 2. love life. [19:46] zykotick9, install ccsm [19:46] lol [19:46] venluckey: clonezilla [19:46] cloudgeek: try it from a livecd like partedmagic [19:46] venluckey: backuppc [19:46] guarantee itll work [19:47] My workmate had success w/ clonezilla the other week and seemed to like it a lot. [19:47] ive been using clonezilla for years its work 100% every time [19:47] i have some files i wish to replace certain words with other words. whats the best way of automating this? [19:47] im downloading clonezilla now, i likes to try new stuff [19:48] cloudgeek: boot the livecd and do it from gparted you shouldnt get any errors [19:48] sanduz2, I would look to sed if it's simple. awk or perl if it;s more complex. [19:48] B0g4r7, thanks [19:48] venluckey, FYI closezilla is an imaging program, not really a backup [19:48] venluckey: download partedmagic instead it has clonezilla on it and a load of other stuff [19:48] zykotick9: yeah but hes upgrading... [19:48] so its the best option [19:49] Gentoo64, if they upgrade, they certainly won't want to restore the old image then? how is that helpful? [19:49] if it fails [19:49] that's true [19:49] thats the whole point [19:49] lol [19:49] Do you guys know about drivers for optical CD drive? [19:50] if it all goes so bad he cant boot or whatever all he has to do is click restore and get back to 10.10 [19:50] Gentoo64, dont think I am a devil. I have to go [19:50] hi all [19:50] tomay: ok [19:50] 179 mb, is that right? [19:51] venluckey: for partedmagic? [19:51] yeah [19:51] Anyone know if 256mb is enough to run RT? [19:51] RT4 [19:51] yeah probably, iots not massive [19:51] datruth: backtrack? [19:51] yeah, and a zip, thought it would be an iso [19:51] sorry my bad [19:51] hello all [19:51] Gentoo64: whats that? [19:51] hi sam [19:51] datruth, what is RT4? [19:51] I had a co worker install ubuntu 10.0.4 tls on an old dell. I have the user sign on, but not root [19:51] venluckey: you can download a zip or an iso [19:52] B0g4r7: a ticketing system [19:52] how do I create a admin account if I only have access to user? [19:52] the site has both afaik [19:52] sam555: you cant [19:52] <-----I see, im just retared today [19:52] sam555: otherwise limited users, could be come admin defeating the point [19:52] !noroot | sam555 [19:52] sam555: We do not support setting a root password. You're free to do it on your own machine, but please don't offer instructions on how to set a root password or ask for help with setting it. See !root and !wfm for more information. [19:52] !root [19:52] Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [19:52] Gentoo64: gotcha [19:52] datruth, yeah, I'd think so. It's not gonna be much heavy lifting involved. [19:53] #hack-ar [19:53] hey guys [19:53] Hiya [19:53] !hello [19:53] whats up [19:53] Does anyone run Linux on VM? [19:53] B0g4r7: every time I start apache up it says it can't allocate memory when I run top it looks like 3245k is free [19:53] With Windows as host? [19:53] yeah fox, i have [19:53] must've been !hi [19:53] yeps [19:54] datruth, do you have swap active? [19:54] anyone work at a factory? [19:54] Foxhoundz, just ask your original question, i'm sure someone can help [19:54] tensorpudding: that factoid was removed quite a while back [19:54] tensorpudding, !hi was removed quite a while ago - due to misuse [19:54] quite a while ago? [19:54] i thought i saw it a few months ago [19:54] Foxhoundz: i use virtualbox [19:54] datruth, if not, do so. If so, consider that you may need to increase it's size. [19:54] B0g4r7: hrmm [19:54] ciao [19:55] It's probably not possible, but could you enable 3d acceleration in a virtual environment ? [19:55] !it | Guest60289 [19:55] Guest60289: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [19:55] I don't know if VirtualBox supports it now [19:55] Foxhoundz: yes, just tick enable 3d accel [19:55] !list [19:55] This is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ». [19:55] Foxhoundz: linux guests dont support 2d on vbox though [19:55] B0g4r7: how can I check if I am using swap? [19:55] datruth, the 'free' command should tell you. [19:55] Foxhoundz: click on the vm settings and under display [19:56] free [19:56] what vm you using? [19:56] I thought vbox did support 3d accel for linux guests to some extent. [19:56] Swap: 238584 184640 53944 [19:56] B0g4r7, it does [19:56] VB [19:56] B0g4r7: it does fully. 3d works 2d dnt [19:56] yeah mine does, thats why i was asking what fox using [19:56] 2d only in windows [19:56] B0g4r7: so I need to increase the swap size? [19:57] Mem: 250256 245976 4280 0 3004 8508 [19:57] Gentoo64, that's 2d "acceleration" that is windows only - regular 2d works fine [19:57] Foxhoundz: under the vm settings > display.. allocated the gpu memory and tock the 3d accel box [19:57] ah, got it [19:57] zykotick9: yeah of course [19:57] ok [19:57] datruth, it would seem to be using 184MB of swap space, with 53MB remaining free. I would increase it if I were you. [19:58] B0g4r7: how do I increase the swap size? [19:58] ok, got to go work on a windows box, a techs job never done [19:58] datruth: how much ram have you got, and what DE are you running? [19:58] see yall later [19:58] Gentoo64: 256mb what is DE? [19:58] datruth: are you using plain ubuntu with gnome? [19:58] 256 mb is way too low imo [19:59] for gnome 3 [19:59] Gentoo64: no xwindows or anything just a server [19:59] ah ok [19:59] hi [19:59] im trying to simply listen to audio through my headphones through a reg'lar headphone jack [19:59] datruth, the easy way will be to create a "swap file" on your fs and use it in addition to the existing swap partition. The more proper way will be to resize the swap partition or add an additional one. [20:00] datruth: how much ram is used when you boot up? just out of interest [20:00] Im having an issue with my build in webcam [20:00] can someone help me? [20:00] and theres ike 100 options ahh [20:00] I just installed ubuntu last night [20:00] switched from windows [20:00] Gentoo64: not much I have issues when I laod up apache with rt and sometimes I can't mail out to anyone because it can't fork the proccess [20:00] What version, steven? [20:01] datruth, regardless, once you have a place for the additional swap space, you'll want to 'mkswap /path/to/swap/file/or/device', and add it into /etc/fstab following the style used for the existing swap. [20:01] steven_: the ole 'dive right in' [20:01] i like it [20:01] ive been using ubuntu since intrepid ibex and i still dual boot :P [20:01] Nice [20:01] I would completely migrate to Linux if it could run a game of mine [20:01] Foxhoundz: which game [20:01] There was an older version of WINE that could run it [20:01] B0g4r7: if I increase the actual ram I have would that be better? [20:01] I didnt want to dual boat because I didnt want the system to get all over packed [20:01] but there was a regression [20:01] TheBiggestNoober: Last Chaos [20:01] datruth, better performance-wise for sure. [20:02] it errors out when I launch it [20:02] but, now that I installed it im having issues with my webcam [20:02] steven_, 1st test to see if your webcam works in "cheese" [20:02] hrmm ok [20:02] hey guys, I just bought a Sony Handycam, but there's no memmorycard in it, so I was wondering if it's possible to record from out Linux? [20:02] * datruth powers down the vm [20:02] i havent used windows in years, funny whenever i help people with windows i still remember it all [20:02] My webcam works in cheese its just that its showing a messed up image [20:02] Foxhoundz: have you tried playonlinux/crossover [20:02] stevwn_, how big is your hdd? [20:02] that box has been up for 230days [20:02] hey guys, just a quick question before I head off again [20:02] I have not. I'll give it shot [20:02] heh [20:02] HDD is 500gb [20:03] Has anyone come across not being able to login to a X session from the login manager because they kept getting instantly logged out? [20:03] datruth: a vm box? [20:03] i need to learn virtualization [20:03] TheBiggestNoober: its easy [20:03] unlike a lot of linux peeps im not an IT professional, just a dabbler [20:04] Gentoo64: yeah [20:04] I am studying IT [20:04] so im disadvantaged [20:04] TheBiggestNoober: virtualbox is one of the easiest programs to use [20:04] oh i can do vbox [20:04] steven_ that is the same soze as mine, and i see no issues with having partitions for all my win7 stuff, and partitions for linux [20:04] datruth: cool [20:04] Thats another reason why I switched from windows because I wanted to get used to linux. [20:04] steven_: the best way is to just stop using windows [20:04] if you can [20:05] or youll keep switching back and forth [20:05] Gentoo64: the guy just started yesterday, no need to start the preaching now =P [20:05] must.. indoctrinate.. [20:05] Gentoo64: I still have it on my desktop [20:05] hm.. [20:06] anyway fellas with 11.10 first time ive ever had sound issues out of the box === derp is now known as Snooki [20:06] question for a bios guru (trying to setup ubuntu) ... anyone have any idea what this is as a drive option .. USB: generic compa ..... i know what the usb part is ... but i'm wondering about the compa - since all my usbs are currently empty except for my wireless mouse [20:06] I wish virtualbox were as easy for me. I'm trying to move a vm from my desktop to instead run on a headless server, and figuring out why it doesn't come online to where I can ssh into it is not proving to be easy. [20:06] i will likely end up multi-booting with another distro of linux by the time i get done [20:06] And I can't get the VRDE thing to work. [20:06] So, I installed 11.10, shut it down earlier, but now I can't log in from the login manager, anyone know what the deal might be? [20:06] ubidoobi2: just the name of the device [20:07] Gentoo64 : what device is it though .. nothing is in the USB ports and it says it's removable [20:07] Chraz_Ritt; which distro intriques you most? [20:07] ubidoobi2, card reader? [20:07] ubidoobi2: oh, not sure then [20:07] ubidoobi2: might be a motherboard thing [20:08] Gentoo64: ... i don't think one can boot from the motherboard [20:08] yeah could be card reader, anything like that [20:08] something on board i mean [20:08] Gentoo654 : says it's a bootable device since it's in boot options [20:08] removable boot device at that [20:08] sound issues? i haven't checked to see if my lappy speakers, or my wireless headset work in ubuntu, but the startup sound came out just fine through the speakers of my 50" plasma tv [20:09] ubidoobi2: if theres nothing else plugged in, try disabling some of the onboard stuff in the bios see if it goes away. its hard for anyone to tell tbh [20:09] thye all have strange names [20:10] mangochutney, i have used puppy linux a lot in the past, and that is likely the next that i will add [20:10] ubidoobi2; what does your mystery device have for a usb id-string? [20:10] mang : where do i look for that? [20:10] i'm in win7 right now [20:10] ubidoobi2: try the device manager [20:11] does it show up in my comp? [20:11] no [20:11] the flash with ubuntu on it does though [20:11] how can you tell which version of ubuntu ur using [20:12] steven_: type uname [20:12] ubidoobi2; in previous versions of windows there was a removable device manager that would tell you the id numbers for any device. But I'm not sure about 7 [20:12] uname [20:12] steven_: actually i think theres another command === ich is now known as Guest2916 [20:12] steven_: Gentoo64 lsb_release -a [20:12] thats the 1 :) [20:13] OMG, I have 11.10 [20:13] steven_: you downloaded it... [20:13] i can post a picture somewhere if that helps ... [20:13] I told all my friends I downloaded 10.4 [20:13] you sound surprised lol [20:13] when did you do the download? [20:14] last night. [20:14] It's because in school we have 10.4 [20:14] ubidoobi2: ok [20:14] and im used to seeing 10.4 popup on startup [20:14] Gentoo65 : where do you want it posted? [20:14] lol [20:14] ubidoobi2: what are you doing a screen shot of? device manager? [20:15] device man. ... bios shots as well [20:15] i prob wont be able to tell what it is tbh [20:15] that's okay ... [20:15] What do I need to tell you guys before you can tell me if I can use Compiz without troubles? [20:15] i forgot how long it takes to resize a partition [20:16] which permission is -rwxr-xr-x, 777, 770?? [20:16] Hi, i've got a problem with my software-center in onereic. When I open it, it opens a blank window. The terminal doesn't give any errors, I've installed all the updates, this problem wasn't two days ago.... What can I do? [20:16] dddbmt: can you run 3d games with no issues and do not suffer from random crashes while running X? [20:18] riffautae, I've freshly installed 11.10 on a brand new machine. no crashes yet. === Snooki is now known as derp [20:18] Bisu[Shield], looks like 755 actually [20:18] dddbmt: have you run any 3d games? [20:18] cool thanks [20:19] wow, something is really buged up [20:19] Bisu[Shield]: be aware for command like chmod you can use stuff like go-w instead of numbers [20:19] steven_: whats happened? [20:19] Bisu[Shield], r = 4, w = 2, x = 1 -- then just add them up ;) [20:19] zykotick9: he left :) [20:19] I tried to sign up for launch pad, and it said it was going to send me a conformation email insted however, they sent me a "forgot password" email insted. [20:20] guntbert, doh, thanks. [20:20] Man, I sure wish there was a viable alternative to Thunderbird. === ValentinM is now known as Valentin [20:20] steven_; that might mean someone else already got your username [20:20] B0g4r7: i wish there was a lighter gui one [20:20] how could that be. I used my email === Valentin is now known as ValentinM [20:20] riffautae, nope. I really don't play games. [20:21] steven_; I don't know, someone impersonated you? [20:21] Is it possible to preserve an X session over XDMCP so they survive disconnects (persistent sessions over XDMCP)? [20:21] dddbmt: what is your video card? [20:21] dddbmt, what graphics card do you have? if you aren't sure you can open a terminal and enter "lspci | grep -i vga" to find out. [20:21] Well idk [20:22] riffautae, geforce gt 550m (CUDA 1GB) [20:22] what does signing up for launchpad do? [20:22] zykotick9, ^ [20:22] ill try later, I have a lot to learn about linux apparently [20:22] Thanks for your help. Have a good day. [20:22] lp | Gentoo64 [20:22] !lp | Gentoo64 (sorry) [20:22] Gentoo64 (sorry): Launchpad is a collection of development services for Open Source projects. It's Ubuntu's bug tracker, and much more; see https://launchpad.net/ [20:22] Gentoo64, file bugs, comments, etc. [20:23] ok [20:23] and hes only just started using ubuntu? [20:23] dddbmt: looks like that uses the nvidia binary drivers, so you will prolly be fine [20:23] riffautae, zykotick9 - it's primarely exposé I'm want to use. [20:24] dddbmt: the only way to tell is to try it. [20:24] youll get bored of compiz in like 2 minutes lol [20:24] riffautae, okay. How can I check if I have the proper drivers installed? [20:25] Gentoo64, it took me at least 5 minutes ;) [20:25] ah ok my bad [20:25] does anyone know how to uninstall noip from my ubuntu s3erver box [20:25] Gentoo64: expose is pretty useful, but dddbmt I switched to a tiling window manager and I find that it scratches the same itch better [20:25] coz i wana reinstall it [20:25] dddbmt: can you run nvidia-settings? [20:25] type nvi then tabs [20:25] see if nvidia pops up [20:26] Gentoo64, riffautae yes to nvidia-settings [20:26] dddbmt: you should be good to go then [20:26] is there any site that one can check a computers compatability for ubuntu? [20:27] !hcl | ubidoobi2 [20:27] ubidoobi2: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection [20:28] i [20:28] hi [20:28] ... [20:28] hi [20:28] hello. [20:28] Gentoo64, riffautae is it correct that I only need to apt-get compizconfig-settings-manager? === Arnold_ is now known as Arnold [20:28] not sure [20:28] dddbmt: run that and see if hte dependencies include compiz and other things [20:29] SpiderFred: Do you have an ubuntu support question? [20:30] exit [20:30] Gentoo64 [20:30] cloudgeek: hi [20:30] need [20:30] help [20:30] anyone have experience of forcing X to use specific gfx card? dont work for me. Always selects the wrong gfx card ;( [20:30] i don't see my 65 bit acer in the list of compatable computers for ubuntu ... does this mean it's not supported .. or does this mean i should try a 32 bit install instead? ... or neither LOL [20:31] tomodachi; perhaps you could use the optional xorg.conf file [20:31] ubidoobi2: its mostly wireless thats the worst for compatability [20:31] ubidoobi2: the cpu etc will all wrk [20:31] ubidoobi2: is it a laptop? [20:31] Gentoo64: Gparted is working properly , not able make partition [20:31] Gentoo64 : thx ... still can't find the reason why ubu dont see my hdd though [20:32] desktop [20:32] ubidoobi2: it should pick up all hdds. [20:32] gparted dont see it at all? [20:32] if not check the bios [20:32] hello. under 11.10, mackbook, if I adjust the level of brightness, the screemn gets very dark, and even at 100% I am not getting back to a full brightness. any hint ? [20:32] gentoo64: yeah you would think so ... gpart don't see it either [20:32] 193 [20:32] Where does sloppy focus live in the control panel for 11.10? [20:32] mangochutney: ive made my own xorg.conf , with the option "BusiD" "PCI:0:1:0", but my log saysz it still selects the other card ( i presume * in front of the pci ID means witch device xorg choose) [20:32] gentoo64 : sorry .. yes gpart sees the drive .. the installer don't .. sorry [20:33] s [20:33] ubidoobi2: thats weird. is the drive completely blank? [20:33] brand new? [20:33] hi [20:33] i did a low level format on the drive yesterday ... installed win7 again .. no problems .. tried 2 other hdds i got laying around .. all the same [20:33] coreGrl: Hello! [20:33] Genetoo64: okay checking anything else advise [20:34] ubidoobi2: thats weird, the installer should see them.. [20:34] I've a dvbt usb pen, what can I use to see TV on ubuntu? [20:34] hey, i have a problem with my zsh logfile. everytime i start zsh it says zsh: locking failed for /.zhistory: reading anyway [20:34] cloudgeek: im really not sure :s [20:34] coreGrl: What brand and type is it? [20:34] cloudgeek: no idea why its saying its busy when its not mounted [20:34] Gentoo64 .. weird i'll say .. i been trying to get this to install for 2 weeks now .. tried different torrents etc .. tried mint instead .. etc .. bios .. ahmmm .. you name it and i've tried it [20:35] tomodachi, maybe you could try using {Driver "cardtype"} in the "Device" section? [20:35] ubidoobi2, if you have installed the raid device on an hd that is excluded from the installer [20:35] Gentoo64: i think might i am tired ,it's already night 3 Am so okay bye goodnight ,i will check it tomorrow [20:36] ok [20:36] hey, i have a problem with my zsh logfile. everytime i start zsh it says zsh: locking failed for /.zhistory: reading anyway === Explodingpiglets is now known as Xplodingpiglets [20:36] daan4711, Afatech DVB-T USB1.1 , it works but I don't know which program to use [20:36] Gdnight to everyone in #ubuntu [20:36] robin0800 drive is set to IDE [20:36] mangochutney, i'm a bit curious about why you asked me about distros [20:37] anyone with some knowledge of this that got some time to watch me go through the install via webcam? [20:37] ubidoobi2: whats on the install screen? just a blank section? [20:37] Chraz_Ritt; necause shortly before I asked, you'd commented that you'd probably eventually have a dual boot with another linux distro === sysadamin is now known as sysadamin|away [20:37] wherre the drives are meant to be [20:38] Hello, I'm having some troubles with getting EDID data from my monitor. I tired get-edid | sudo parse-edid but it is failing. I read in some forum that this tool is not working well on 64bit machines [20:38] yeah window pane is empty for HDD ... when i got a usb flash in it will show up though [20:38] are there any alternatives? [20:38] Gentoo64 : i can install ubuntu to a flash drive no problem ... for some strange reason [20:38] ubidoobi2, if you have more than one hd the partioner ask if you want to install the raid device if you do that disc is then excluded from the installer [20:39] coreGrl: Have you tried tvtime or xawtv? [20:39] Gentoo64, riffautae Compiz seems to work fine. Thank you for your help! [20:39] robin0800: only one hdd in the box is wired up [20:39] mangochutney, actually the plan is to multi-boot with 2 distros of linux, while keeping win7 [20:39] ubidoobi2: on a blank drive, try going into gparted and choosing device > create partition table, choose default msdos (it will erase anything on the disk btw) see if it works.. doubt it will but worth a try [20:39] i am deleting file to create disk space but df -h still says 100% [20:40] ubidoobi2, and its properly detected by the bios? [20:40] any idea what tool works on ubuntu 11.10 (64bit) to EDID data? [20:40] mangochutney: just did, both with "intel" and "ati" (still seems to go for the "2:0:0" device instead of the other one [20:40] robin0800: apparently its showing in gparted but no the installer [20:40] robin0800 ... yes it detects fine [20:40] in bios [20:40] any ideas? [20:41] fission6: try deleting more [20:41] any help in here? [20:41] tomodachi; oh you have two video card both active? that might present a problem. you can tell ubuntu to "blacklist" the card you don't want [20:41] ubidoobi2, is it partioned and formatted [20:42] something strange is going on in the bios though .. i'm no guru (obviously) but when i put in my install usb for ubuntu it does not show up in the 4 boot selections .. i have to manually select it. [20:42] ubidoobi2: it prob just isnt in the boot order [20:42] Gentoo64: okay i just deleted like 400MB [20:42] Gentoo64 : yeah its not in the boot order .. that i can't change i don't think [20:43] fission6, how big is the drive? [20:43] ubidoobi2: the bios is probably fine [20:43] Hi, does someone knows how to use testdisk. I gotta bog pb. In fact I wanted to resize a partition but it didn't work so the OS says it's impossible to use the partition. I have to format it !!! [20:43] 4 boot order options are HHD, usb generic compa , cd/dvd / lan [20:43] Chraz_Ritt: oh i think something is just writing and writing to the disk, how can i see what process it is? [20:43] fission6: try rebooting [20:44] itll clear tmp and might give you a better chance [20:44] ubidoobi2, use gparted to mark first partition as active [20:44] if i select to boot from the USB - the HDD gets removed from the list of 4 [20:44] Gentoo64: how can i see whats writing to disk [20:44] fission6: you could try something like iotop [20:45] thatll tell you a process [20:45] ok [20:45] letm e try thanks [20:45] do you use a proxy like polipo? [20:45] ubidoobi2, change the order then [20:46] any suggestions? [20:46] please [20:46] Gentoo64: i get a bus error when i try running iotop [20:46] robin0800 : i've tried every combination in there .. all same result [20:46] fission6: i would reboot. i dont think youll be able to do much without errors with 100% full disk [20:47] what are the most important things to know how to do in the terminal? [20:47] chado: just learn as you go [20:47] chado: beyond cd and ls, find and grep are really usefull [20:47] chado: cat (reads text files), ls (lists whats in folders), cd (changes to another place) [20:47] ubidoobi2,and the disk is partitioned and formatted? [20:47] chado: ctrl + r, screen, vim [20:47] How can I disable a Radeon HD 6950, like I can in the device manager in windows? [20:48] chado: typing :) [20:48] fission6, if the hdd is big enough the amount you said you deleted may not count as enough to show as free space [20:48] ubuntu all your favorite os for linux? [20:49] i killed the chat [20:49] lol [20:49] at least you didn't kill the cat === Guest43857 is now known as hello_linux [20:50] already dead. [20:50] Anyone know if it's possible to get quicklists running on the launcher in unity on 11.10? [20:50] crime here? [20:51] guest^ crimewatch is looking for you [20:51] private message! [20:51] any suggestions ? [20:51] robin0800 : ...i've tried formatted and partitioned [20:51] are there any programs which have a dependency for a specific kernel? or is it easily possible to downgrade the kernel? e.g. 2.6.38 in 11.10. the common things doesnt seem to requeire a minimum kernel-version [20:52] neither testdisk or disk utility show my sata hd. what do i have to do to get the hd into my system ? [20:52] hid, are you wanting to format a partition? [20:52] tomodachi, just curious , is this a laptop with dual gfx cards [20:52] How do I correct Gnome Desktop Session is required? I am logged into GDS right now. [20:52] s_o_s: is it brand new? [20:52] If I want to start two processes that will never finish in a script, should I background (&) the first one? Otherwise, won't the script just stay waiting on the first never-ending process and never start the second one? [20:53] thanks gentoo64. no, its is used with a lot of data [20:53] on a 700gb hdd with install issues .. what would be an 'optimal' partition for ubuntu? [20:53] BluesKaj: yes it is ,a macbook 8.2 it has one intel card and one ati card. want the intel card. But anycard that its not using fbdev would be sufficent. Right now i get fbdev with the ati card. [20:53] ubidoobi2: one that you can install onto lol [20:54] @gentoo: the hd is from a wd my book (i thought the adapter is failing..) [20:54] ubidoobi2: depends how much space you want, if you want swap, seperate /hom etc [20:54] install into, and still have room for groth would be good [20:54] s_o_s: does gparted show it, or the bios? [20:54] Gentoo64: good humor no doubt .... I would have thrown this from the balcony a week ago however I only live a floor up and it would have survived :) [20:54] Benxyzzy; it might be better programming practice to have a third master script start both of them in the background [20:54] @gentoo n, gparted doesn't show it [20:54] Gentoo64: ... so lets say 50 gb ? [20:55] bios is okay [20:55] ubidoobi2: what do you want, a big space for data? [20:55] Gentoo65: an installed ubuntu will do for now ! [20:55] s_o_s: hmm not sure. maybe try clearing the cmos it could be in frozen state or something like that [20:55] ubidoobi2: you could try clearing the cmos too [20:56] i would [20:56] mangochutney: OK, thanks. Should the third master script start the first two backgrounded? Or will the two 'child' scripts execute without hanging forever on their respective processes? [20:56] Gentoo64: that's fragile work for someone who don't have a clue what they're doing ... . isn't it ? [20:56] ubidoobi2: hmm but looks like you have no other options [20:56] Gentoo64: move to a higher floor? LOL === ubun1 is now known as ubb [20:57] Benxyzzy; that first option was what I was thinking [20:57] hi, want to install valgrind on my machine. sudo apt-get install valgrind fails! [20:57] ubidoobi2: check the back of the comp it might have a paper clip slot to reset cmos [20:57] Chraz_Ritt: I want to recover the partition. Data aren't deleted but I cannot access to them. [20:57] alexGlasgow: that is a bad error-description [20:57] @gentoo : the cmos is ok cause another hd is working well... the pc is running okay, the only problem i have (but a big p.) that the wd hd patched as sata isn't recognized [20:57] iceroot, dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. [20:57] alexGlasgow: do it [20:57] Gentoo64 ... i'll look for it [20:58] mangochutney: Thanks for your advice, that all makes sense to me :) [20:58] s_o_s: i would try it anyway if its showing in bios but not gparted. ive had frozen drive a couple of times and cmos clear sorts it [20:58] Hi all, I have a question that hopefully someone can help with...when I installed 11.04 mouse cursor would disappear and system would eventually hang. First time ever having trouble with Ubuntu...waited for 11.10 same thing now. Is it the memory leaks causing this and how do I fix? [20:58] hid, what (if anything) did you do to the partition before you lost access to the data? [20:59] Gentoo64: don't see any .. [20:59] Gentoo64 ... i did count 11 usb slots on the computer though ... === tyler_ is now known as Nopedotavi [20:59] iceroot, valgrind : Depends: libc6-dbg but it is not going to be installed [20:59] E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution) [20:59] ubidoobi2: the only other way is to take the battery out for a few seconds. you could try chaning the sats from ide to ahci (if available) in bios see if it changes anything [20:59] sata* [20:59] iceroot, sudo apt-get -f install valgrind fails! [21:00] Back [21:00] Chraz_Ritt: I resized it. I remove 20 Gib for linux. [21:00] Gentoo64 .. there are 3 sets of slots .. 4 on top ... 5 on back .. and 2 off to themselves .. [21:00] @gentoo: thanks for your considerations. i will check the cmos. what would be the correct syntax for mounting a sata hd? or cannot the hd mounted if no tool does show the hd ? [21:00] s_o_s: you cant mount it [21:00] if its not showing up [21:00] Gentoo64 ... when it comes to bios settings etc .. would it matter which usb the install stick is in ...? [21:00] ubidoobi2: not if your manually choosing it [21:01] @gentoo : thanks. your engagement is great. thanks a lot ! [21:01] Gentoo64: ... i could try one of the ones in back .. nothing to lose at this point [21:01] hid, was it a windows partition? [21:01] ubidoobi2: is the installer a usb then? [21:02] [21:02] [21:02] Nopedotavi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [21:02] [21:02] ubidoobi2: i dont have any exp with usb installers it could possibly even be that. id try a livecd for reliability [21:02] Chraz_Ritt: No it was the data partition (about 350 gb) [21:02] Gentoo64 ... i'll get a livecd burned .. [21:02] could someone tell me what this: 91.189.92.166 is? [21:02] ubidoobi2: good idea. they never fail [21:02] but i'll go and try the usb thing for now .. .see if that does anything [21:02] ok [21:02] as in who owns it/what service it provides [21:03] hid, what fs was on it? [21:03] nslookup 91.189.92.166 [21:03] Kre10s download the tool from HF [21:03] Hi all, I have a question that hopefully someone can help with...when I installed 11.04 mouse cursor would disappear and system would eventually hang. First time ever having trouble with Ubuntu...waited for 11.10 same thing now. Is it the memory leaks causing this and how do I fix? [21:04] ah. nevermind. its the ubuntu update thingy,. [21:04] Kre10s: where are you getting that ip from? [21:04] whois 91.189.92.166 [21:04] wireshark [21:04] could be anything.. [21:04] wireshark picks up anything [21:05] that ip address appears to belong to "Canonical Ltd" on the Isle of Man in the UK [21:05] Chraz_Ritt: It was a ntfs partition. [21:05] cant be related to ubuntu then [21:05] it is an IP from canonical [21:05] does anyone know why make wouldn't be installed right after installing 11.10? I need it to compile my wireless usb drivers [21:05] Randolph, try , http://www.infosniper.net/ [21:05] hid, did you use it for storage while using windows? [21:05] WyCKyD: install build-essentials [21:06] WyCKyD: afaik ubuntu dont come with a compiler or anything related [21:06] Gentoo: will it install from the install media, because i have no internet otherwise? [21:06] dont think so [21:06] hm. Is anyone having trouble connecting to other irc networks (other than freenode) in xchat since upgrading to 11.10? [21:06] usually make is a part of the gcc package and it is installed [21:07] babble: its probably not ubuntu [21:07] WyCKyD: afaik you need build-essentials [21:07] Chraz_Ritt: I was on linux when it happened. An only storage partiton yes. [21:07] I will try a few more things and the build-essentials and get back to you...thx Gentoo :) [21:08] Gentoo64: well, okay, but I'm at a total loss; [21:08] hid, but was it used by windows? could it have needed defragging? [21:08] babble: what are you trying to connect to? [21:08] babble: adding your own server? [21:08] Gentoo64: it started yesterday being unable to connect to Undernet anything [21:08] today, no undernet, no efnet, no Dalnet, and so on [21:08] babble: what does it say? [21:08] Randolph, tracepath 91.189.92.166 = atemoya.canonical.com ...so it is [21:08] I'll get to the end of a connect sequence and can't join any channels. [21:08] no reply to /motd [21:09] it's just. stuck. [21:09] if it was one network, I'd chalk it up to that network being flaky [21:09] BluesKaj, like what I wrote [21:09] not sure about that [21:09] Chraz_Ritt: the partition wasn't fragmented (0%). I took every precaution in order to install linux distribution. [21:09] yup , just thought i'd try it , Randolph [21:10] hid: How did you try to resize the FS? What error message did you get? [21:10] babble: xchat works fine for me, i seriously doubt its an ubuntu problem. maybe try reinstalling xchat and removing the .xchat2 folder (keep the important stuff) [21:10] BluesKaj, Oki doki [21:10] hid, have you tried mounting it from ubuntu? [21:10] hm. I don't mind nuking the entire configuration folder and starting over. [21:10] thanks, lemme try that [21:11] babble: just move it in case it still fails [21:11] (I've already reinstalled xchat) [21:11] hey i was wondering if there was a way to change the horizontal scrolling speed [21:11] oh, I have backups :) [21:11] ok === tyler_ is now known as Nopedotavi [21:12] Chraz_Ritt: Defragmenting is not required before resizing a partitition with ntfsresize (used by [G]Parted and any other partitioning utilities). It's a common belief, but a myth. === Fever is now known as BlauskaerM [21:13] i have a thinkpad e420s and i want to know how to customize /etc/x11/xorg.conf to slow down my horizontal scrolling sensitivity [21:13] Chraz_Ritt: Yeah I tried but ubuntu doesn't recognise it. Ubuntu proposes to delete the partiton :'(. [21:13] hid: How did you try to resize the FS? What error message did you get? [21:13] Need More Djs http://turntable.fm/freenode [21:14] Jordan_U, how would someone be sure that data is consolidated where none of it would be lost in the resize? [21:14] Chraz_Ritt: gparted moves any data [21:14] siema chuje [21:14] I've been looking a bit on PHP Storm IDE http://jetbrains.com/phpstorm/ and the specs says "FTP and remote files synchronization" - anyone know if it supports sftp as well? [21:14] Chraz_Ritt: ntfsresize can handle moving of data just fine. [21:14] Chraz_Ritt: same way to resize in windows the defragmenter service is compulsory [21:15] co to kurwa jest [21:15] ? [21:15] Gentoo64, that's great news [21:15] Gentoo64, huzzah! [21:15] babble: works? [21:15] killing my .xchat2 folder seems to have fixed :) [21:15] weird, but good :) lol [21:15] (and I'm kicking myself for not thinking of this earlier, hehe) [21:15] thank you :) [21:15] It does appear Canonical Ltd is a ubuntu developer [21:15] dno what could have changed there [21:16] oh, I must have had some oddness in there from Xchat-Gnome [21:16] maybe an xchat update with old server list or something [21:16] ahh probably [21:16] Jordan_U: I was on ubuntu so I used gparted to resize it. In fact gparted crashed with my pc... On windows, the os proposed me to format the partition. I tried on a livecd of ubuntu 11.04 but it's the same case. [21:16] hid: if the partition is ext4 or whatever the only thing windows will do is ask you to format it [21:17] is it normal to have 10 kworker and 4 migration processes running constantly on an ubuntu server box? [21:18] hid, if you can possibly come up with a second harddrive for ubuntu to use for itself, that would be much better [21:18] hid: What happened when it "crashed"? [21:18] domo: i just googled it apparently its something to do with acpi [21:18] hid: Did you see any error message? [21:18] domo: if its all working i wouldnt worry about it [21:19] Gentoo64: how can I find my boxes kernel version if its running on top of xen? [21:19] domo: uname -a [21:19] on top of xen? [21:20] Linux li363-29 3.0.4-linode36 #1 SMP Thu Sep 1 20:56:39 EDT 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux [21:20] mangochutney: I'm on a laptop. I'd like to reserve another hdd to ubuntu but I do not have enough "place". [21:20] thats all its giving me [21:20] (its hosted at linode.com) [21:20] domo: run uname -a on whatever box you wana find it on [21:20] kernel 3.0.4 that is [21:20] oh [21:21] uname -r might be clearer [21:21] i was expecting some 2.x [21:21] Jordan_U: something like "gparted could not proceed with the desired handling" [21:21] domo: most stuffs on 3 now [21:21] hid, did u try the gparted live cd? [21:21] hid' ok. the last time I actually used a laptop it had a spare drive bay which could use an extra hdd, but I guess they aren't all like that [21:21] hid: In the future please write down such error messages, and keep any logs, as they tend to be very useful. [21:22] hid: you might have to format, if it got cut off on a resize i doubt youll be able to recover it [21:22] Should Ubuntu automatically load any .ko files in /lib/modules/`uname`/kernel/drivers ? [21:22] I have several subduers in /lib/modules, but the ko is only in the `uname`-named one. It's not getting loaded at startup. [21:22] mike_miller, it should, but sometimes 1 device or another u already have doesn't always [21:22] Or, at least, not getting loaded successfully. [21:23] This is a device that's installed. It's a custom driver(NetFPGA). [21:23] mike_miller: No. Modules are loaded as needed. [21:23] yagoo: all happened with an ubuntu livecd not especially a gparted livecd. [21:23] what does this mean? Jan 24 18:09:01 server CRON[2584]: pam_unix(cron:account): account root has password changed in future [21:23] Jordan_U: It's for a network device. The device isn't appearing in ifconfig. [21:23] hid, how much space is for "/" and "swap" ? [21:23] mangochutney, now days some have the space, and some don't, i think it mostly depends on the size of the lappy, and the price range of it. [21:23] I want to figure out why it isn't loading. [21:24] SpiderFred: maybe its the time messed up [21:24] mike_miller: Does inserting the modules make the device show up in ifconfig? [21:24] SpiderFred: check the date command [21:24] no. [21:24] hi all, i have a problem with libnotify1 [21:24] i can't install it on my oneiric [21:24] mike_miller, u said it was a custom driver.. if u simplycopied that driver after compiling it.. u may just need , depmod -a, then use modprobe [21:24] !u | yagoo [21:24] yagoo: U is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' nor 'Ur' are words in the English language. Neither are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'ryt', 'Ne1' nor 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information. [21:24] E: El paquete «libnotify1» no tiene un candidato para la instalación [21:24] Jordan_U, irdc === relik_ is now known as durak [21:25] Gentoo64: I did it once but I forgot how to do with testdisk. In fact the data hasn't been removed, I cannot access them [21:25] yagoo: that doesn't bring the interface up. How do I know if mod probe did anything? [21:25] hello, why is selinux not default installed on ubuntu? [21:25] yagoo: That's unfortunate if you wish to stay in the channel. [21:25] durak: apparmor is [21:25] durak: Because apparmor is used instead. [21:25] durak: theyre different approaches [21:25] modprobe -v doesn't help. [21:25] Jordan_U, eh [21:25] ok [21:26] let me check what apparmor is [21:26] i wont come bak [21:26] yagoo: I would say 11gb for /, 5gb for /home and 4gb for the swap but I didn't install because I first had to resize the partition :-(. [21:26] is there a command to restart the desktop environment without logging off/on [21:27] hid: like i said if it crashed on a resize your screwed 99% of the time [21:27] hid: a very long time ago i was resizing a 1tb drive and canceled it after 1 second. the whole thing was gone [21:27] I have 3 users all in the same group that sftp files into a shared folder where the Group ownes the folder. The problem is that the permissions are always set -rw-r--r-- thus the other users can edit the files. How do I set it so that files always get -rw-rw-r--? [21:28] how do i switch the mouse-cursor to the right side? === SoulShadow is now known as Shadows`class [21:28] Minze: you mean the way the arrow is pointing? [21:28] hid: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Step_By_Step may help. Do you have backups in case it doesn't work though? (that's the first precaution, even if you aren't resizing anything, when you have important data). [21:28] Minze: youd have to use a custom cursor for that afaik [21:28] Gentoo64: yeah it's what happened. But with testdisk I would recover it easily. [21:29] yep thats what iam talking about Gentoo64 [21:29] Minze: i dont think theres any left handed shape cursors in by default. try gnome-look or similar site they have cursors [21:29] is there a command to restart the desktop environment without logging off/on? [21:29] look under x11-cursors [21:30] alright, thank you in advance! :) [21:30] i suppose my walking the dangerous path all the time should make me keep my mouth shut, but the problem that hid has is why people should back up their data before some operations [21:30] Jordan_U: Of course I have backups (important data) but I also have another I'd like to keep [21:30] hid: anything can happen when doing stuff with partitions suddenly cuts out. not always recoverable [21:30] Chraz_Ritt; linux readmes have said that since the 90's, it's good sense [21:31] yagoo: modprobe nf2 loads the module, but no interface comes up. [21:32] There's a question left, how to i install the packages i get from gnome-look.org? [21:32] hid; maybe you could run off a small external usb drive? [21:32] do* [21:33] Minze: make a folder called .icons in /home and put it in there. im not sure if you can install cursors from the appearance menu. osmetimes you can just click the tar.gz file and itll do it by itself [21:33] from the appearance menu [21:34] i just got a scare here [21:34] ? [21:35] I found with testdisk my data partiton. I've got an option telling me "write partiton structure to disk". Do you think I should "write this structure ? [21:35] mangochutney: what for ? [21:35] "Chraz_Ritt> i just got a scare here" [21:36] after waiting hours for a resize to finish, gparted returned an error, fortunatly it was just a matter of it not being able to move on directly to the creation of the new partition that i planned [21:36] ubidoobi3: install shutter [21:37] ubidoobi3: or just press "Prt Sc" button on keyboard. Works for me. [21:37] when I press shut down my pc just logs off [21:37] CrustyBarnacle: i think he went hours ago [21:37] resizing is a risky business [21:37] i was able to create the new partition after i closed the dialog box, and set up to do the operation by it's self [21:37] Gentoo64: Just logged in... thnx [21:38] :) ok [21:38] i now have the partitions that i wanted so all is well [21:42] In "Classic Ubuntu" (opposite the now "Broken Ubuntu") I used to have a system monitor in my Gnome Panel that showed CPU Load, RAM and Network Usage. How do I add this in 11.10? === Chaser_ is now known as Chaser [21:43] The panel seems to ignore any mouse input these days. === skrewler_ is now known as skrewler [21:45] later guys [21:45] Hi there - 2 questions: 1) I just updated my Natty OS and my X server won't start. This is a serious problem .. can anyone help me? 2) I want to compile the NVidia kernel module manually but it says the X server is running. How do I stop it? Thank you. [21:46] leeping: why the manual way? [21:46] Zta, you use alt click in gnome classic [21:46] Gentoo64, because I tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-current and that did not fix my problem. [21:46] leeping: try uninstalling it then reinstalling [21:46] reboot in between [21:47] ok, purging [21:47] Hi Guys, How is everyone? I have a quick question. I added a application to the launcher but it has a default icon (question mark). How can I modify that? [21:47] MisterLemons: /usr/share/applications should have an icon path [21:47] MisterLemons, press ALT, right click it, click 'properties', click the icon in there [21:47] I'll check it out. [21:47] might be in local share [21:48] my bad theres a better way it seems [21:48] alt-right click doesn't seem to bring up any menu [21:49] bizare [21:49] MisterLemons: is it supposed to have an icon? or is it a custom prog / command [21:49] robin0800: huh? I want to add some applications to my top panel, like the system monitor. === Mud is now known as Guest32221 [21:49] Where should I place a program like aptana in my file system? it's a programming ide in java. [21:50] dddbmt: a portable program? [21:50] Gentoo64, I'm running into the same problem as before. dmesg reports: http://paste.ubuntu.com/721117/ [21:50] this looks like a segfault [21:50] Gentoo64, not sure what you mean? [21:50] dddbmt: /opt/aptana maybe? I assume you mean a program, that doesn't install as a usual .deb package. [21:51] I think it happened after I updated Xorg. [21:51] Can I roll it back? [21:51] segfaults usually point to a hardware problem [21:51] It is an executable, ( aptana 3.0) which comes supplied with an icon. in 11.04 I would right click -> create launcher and supply an icon. [21:51] leeping: what did you do again? [21:51] dddbmt, I put non-synaptic managed applications in ~/Applications, but I'm the only user on my machine [21:51] nvidia it seems [21:51] Gentoo64, I don't know for sure. This morning I logged in remotely, it says reboot required, so I rebooted. [21:51] It must have updated some packages. Maybe the kernel, I don't know. [21:51] leeping: sorry id forgotten already.. yeah the kernel would have gone from 2.38 to 3 [21:51] I can log in remotely, system is fully functional except i get no display [21:52] Gentoo64, I see. Can I kill the X server and compile the kernel module myself? [21:52] leeping: upgrading is a pita [21:52] Gentoo64, Zta, in the folder called "Aptana Stuido 3" is an executable? [21:52] Gentoo64, it says my kernel version is still 2.6.38 [21:52] dddbmt: if you run it from the folder you can put it where you like [21:52] I didn't do a dist-upgrade [21:52] dddbmt: put it in home or wherever [21:52] It's still kernel version 2. [21:52] leeping: oh, just update the packages? i htought you went from 11.04 to 10.10? [21:53] 11.10 [21:53] yes, just updated the packages. [21:53] so you uninstalled nvidia and now get kernel panic? [21:53] If I can kill the X server I will just install the drivers from the NVidia website. But I can't seem to even do that. I tried service gdm stop, no response [21:53] Gentoo64, okay - thank you! babble Zta [21:53] is there a command to restart the desktop environment without logging off/on? [21:53] Gentoo64, when I uninstalled I don't get the kernel panic, but I don't get any display at all. The screen is garbled [21:54] leeping: what card is it btw? [21:54] a fermi? [21:54] Gentoo64, it's a Quadro 600. Not sure what architecture. [21:54] do you get any display at all? [21:55] Gentoo64, no [21:55] Not if I install the driver, and not if I uninstall it [21:56] If I uninstall it, the screen looks garbled. If I install it, there is a maroon square [21:56] garbled how? === BaNz is now known as Alex`aw [21:56] funny colours? [21:56] Anyone have any ideas about changing an icon in the launcher, I would be most grateful :) === james is now known as Guest75970 [21:57] Ah Christ, Pidgin crashed again. [21:57] I'm starting to get real angry with 11.10... [21:57] Gentoo64, it's like I get half a magenta square with some green lines and the rest is black [21:57] but there is no segfault in dmesg [21:58] leeping: it could be the firmware nouveau is trying to load [21:58] Please, just tell me how to kill the X server. I will try to install the driver manually. [21:58] try powering off the comp, switch it off by the plug then press the power buttin a couple times (while its off) [21:58] or cant you [21:59] ive had a similar issue with my card switching from nvidia / nouveau and back [21:59] i think its getting confused with the firmware [21:59] That was the first thing I tried, as in, manually powering off. [22:00] ok when you boot in try ctrl alt f1 [22:00] see if it takes you to a console [22:00] Gentoo64, is there no way to kill the X server? [22:01] normally ctrl alt f1 [22:01] then ctrl c [22:01] It goes straight to the maroon square, keyboard doesn't do anything [22:02] Gentoo64: ctrl+c would only kill X if it had been started from the interactive shell in tty1, which is not normally the case. [22:02] not sure how hed do it blind [22:02] so which is better linux mint or ubuntu? [22:02] isnt it service lightdm stop [22:03] !best | Reaper [22:03] Reaper: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots. [22:03] leeping, its ctrl+ alt+backspace but it has to be enabled [22:03] robin0800, I have a terminal from remote login. [22:03] If I just knew which process to kill, I could kill it remotely. [22:04] aww boo lol [22:04] leeping: have you tried fully draining the power and letting it rest for couple minutes? [22:04] Everytime i restart it says "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode" how can i remove it? And allow me what i want to ? [22:04] the funny colours sounds like firmware [22:04] leeping: Before you try to install any drivers manually, check "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and make sure that the problem isn't caused by an incomplete update. === blaa is now known as SirCastic [22:05] Jordan_U, nothing to be upgraded [22:05] leeping: sorry i forgot you had access to terminal [22:05] gdm isn't running, but the NVidia installer still refuses to work. [22:06] Gentoo64, I'll be back later. Have to go somewhere right now [22:06] can you boot into another kernel? [22:06] ok [22:06] leeping: Try disabling the proprietary driver temporarily, "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-broken" then reboot and re-enable them via "Additional Drivers". [22:08] Hello everyone! [22:10] leeping: you are seeing instructions from the installer? [22:13] I rarely see anyone ask if nvidia-current is installed and if the user as run the gui app included in the same package, when the avg user has a 'nvidia' issue, sometimes getting all scriptkiddy is just over kill! [22:14] http://russell.ballestrini.net/yahoo-is-treating-google-chrome-as-a-mobile-browser/ [22:14] i want to move my complete ssh identity to another ubuntu, is it enough to copy .ssh in my home directory? [22:15] for anyone who helped me earlier - after 2 weeks of trying i finally got ubuntu installed on my system as a dual boot with win7 ... thanks for all your help ! [22:16] hi, I just upgraded to oneiric but the audio is mute. I have an asus p5kc motherboard. can't find any solution on the web so far. you got any hint? thanks [22:18] MarcoPau, are you able to unmute the audio from the volume control? [22:19] Or do you mean you have absolutely no sound, regardless? [22:19] fxhp: yeap, did it to me too, what purpose does it serve? [22:19] BarkingFish: no sound, the volume control seems to be fine [22:20] I just installed openjdk-6-jdk, where is it installed? Need that information for Jenkins. [22:20] BarkingFish: actually, if I mute/unmute the sound the speakers pop, but if I play music or youtube I can't hear anything [22:21] MichaelKohler, /usr/lib/jvm [22:21] I don't know if you have a mixer on your volume control, if so, just open it and check that any other channels are all up - sometimes you get your sound over a different channel. [22:21] MarcoPau: can you plugin earphones and check for output? [22:22] itaylor57: thanks a lot! [22:22] np jenkins is a cool tool [22:22] How can I launch the system menu via ssh -X [22:22] ? [22:23] Hello --- I'm trying to use NetworkManager from startx and am running into the dreaded PolicyKit/ConsoleKit problems. Does anyone know any up-to-date resources on how to make this work? [22:23] breaker 8001 can I get a copy ? [22:23] The menu that in Windows would be called Start-menu and in Mac called -menu. [22:23] advocatusdiaboli, i think its onyl possible if u use wol [22:23] ...right now I seem to have the problem where ck-launch-session inside my .xinitrc isn't creating a local seat, so nothing works. [22:23] wool? [22:24] hey, i have a question [22:24] my mouse freezes sometimes in the newest version of ubuntu [22:24] advocatusdiaboli, wake on lan [22:24] SirDidi: Wake On Lan? [22:24] Does anyone know why this can happen? [22:24] I’m already logged in [22:25] I did ssh -Y 10.0.0.127 [22:25] hopsy: does the light on the bottom of the mouse go off? [22:25] I can run nautilus& or firefox& just fine, but I would like to run the system menus [22:25] I tried startx& and gdm& but no fun [22:26] $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript && ./install.sh [22:26] dtrg: which light? [22:26] well i'm stuck on my install, i don't understand how to get the graphic installer to let me select the partitions to install to, can anyone tell me where i went wrong reading the installer guide? [22:26] Its my touchpad, laptop [22:26] hopsy: it's an optical mouse, right? [22:26] Oh. [22:26] Dunno then. Sorry. === AaronMT is now known as AaronMT|dinner [22:27] advocatusdiaboli, do u set your DISPLAY? [22:27] dtrg: well, when i log in it works. But when I start terminator or something else. it dissapears [22:27] my keyboard works well [22:27] Not really [22:27] ...still desperately in need of someone who knows about ConsoleKit. [22:28] The desktop looks real. [22:28] advocatusdiaboli, problem is i dont know how its exactly works [22:28] <_spt_> Guys, need a bit of help, I need to add nomodeset=1 in grub, I'm in there now. where / which line do I add it to? this is so a Radeon 5450 will work correctly. [22:28] advocatusdiaboli, try google "export DISPLAY ssh" [22:29] Display works fine [22:29] I’m able to run FireFox and nautilus no problem [22:29] Problem is how to start the system menu [22:29] I know for sure it’s not: /bin/systemmenu [22:29] advocatusdiaboli, uhh sry [22:29] I'm at the brink of giving up on Oneric/Unity and reverting -- that is reinstalling -- Natty and getting my old Gnome pack. My system just crashed again. This is ridiculous! [22:30] advocatusdiaboli, i have no frakin idea^^ [22:30] hi [22:30] Anyone got an idea where I can look up the system menu’s installed items? [22:30] Alone logging out takes forever. [22:30] BarkingFish: got it, the system was messing up with the two audio devices (internal audio and one which is strangely related to the video card). only had to change priority between the devices [22:30] thanks anyway. nite [22:31] hello, I'm trying to use a USB Token on ubuntu 11.10 64bits, but the driver refuses to load on firefox... it works ok on 11.04 64bits [22:31] it's an ePass2000 token [22:32] the library used is libepsng_p11.so.1.2.2 [22:32] firefox version 7.0.1 [22:32] tried with that ff version both in 11.10 and 11.04 [22:32] so it's not a browser issue [22:35] !nounity | Zta [22:35] Zta: Ubuntu 11.10 uses GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool". For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic [22:37] robin0800: Thanks, I'm in Gnome Panel now. But even that is broken too now; it looks like a Linux dekstop-attempt from the last decade with misaligned icons. *sigh* [22:37] when using scp -r to copy a whole folder does one have to cd into the folder to be moved, or can the pathname be given? e.g. scp -r /media/hdd/home/user/ blah@ip:/home/backup doesnt seem to be working [22:38] Christ this is a scandal. My favourite OS broken =( [22:38] hi [22:38] howdy'all [22:38] im isntalling ubuntu, how much space should i leave for swap? [22:38] Zta, use alt click to change things [22:38] Zta: I've switched to Xubuntu (apt-get install xubuntu-desktop)... maybe take a look at that on a live cd? [22:38] ev_: no, you dont need to be in the dir. first glance that should work fine, whats the prob? [22:38] 512Mo should be enough for a standart use EzeQL [22:39] EzeQL: 2x your memory [22:39] Chaolin: no... [22:39] * unsermeister greets everybody [22:39] for SWAP I always use twice the amount of RAM in a system [22:39] Chaolin: that was a good advice when computers had only 128Mo of RAM [22:39] EzeQL: how much RAM, and what are you installing Ubuntu for/onto? (desktop? server?) [22:39] LOL :) [22:40] who need 4Go of swap when the computer have 2Go of RAM? Hum? [22:40] perhaps if you make some 3D video with blender or something... [22:40] I just let Ubiquity handle swap on install and it's only ever made a swap equal to the size of my physical RAM since my computers started shipping with 2+ gigs of RAM [22:40] e20100633: somebody who should buy another 6GB of ram :) [22:40] StevenR: rofl [22:40] StevenR: I might look into that. Or perhaps the lubuntu desktop [22:41] lokus: when i du -sh the folder to be moved is 21GB. Twice i have tried and everything copies fine...but it copies everything, from where i dunno. Maxes out my hdd, 100GB+ [22:41] hi guys, is Ubuntu installed on SSD any much different then the 7200rpm HD? [22:41] robin0800: alt click!? =) [22:41] Zta: that too. You could try testing in a VM, or with a live cd/usb first of course, before you make the switch. [22:41] hey you guys in the top command or utility, the third row displays some cpu info...but i dont understand what it means...anyone got any good pointers? it seems to show cpu usage; however, i dont know what the differences are since all of them have different suffixes [22:41] StevenR : 11.10 , 8 GiB [22:41] EzeQL: desktop PC? [22:41] yes [22:41] you have 8Go for RMA EzeQL? [22:41] Zta, use alt click to change things in gnome classic [22:42] e20100633, nope [22:42] EzeQL: maybe no more than 1GB. If you're pushing the limit of 8GB of ram, then you probably want more RAM. It's really only a safety cushion, cos performance will suck when it starts swapping. You can always add a swap file later [22:43] (though a swap file is slower than a swap partition) [22:43] Has anyone managed to make Ndiswrapper work on 64-bit distro? [22:43] so can i install without adding a swap area? [22:43] lokus: http://pastebin.com/LTnCRq8Q [22:43] EzeQL: yes, you could, though I'd advise you to have a small swap partition [22:43] StevenR: I havne't recovered my backup form my previous installation yet; I first wanted to make a few general changes, but I didn't get very far before Unity started locking up, crashing, or behaving stupid. When I click the terminal icon in the launcher, I want a new terminal! =) So I don't think there's anything lost in switching to lubuntu here. [22:44] EzeQL: if you want hibernate, you need some swap [22:44] EzeQL: if you want to hibernate, you'll need more swap than I said. (can't use a swap file for hibernate, afaik) [22:45] is it possible to get network device profiles that will detect which networks they're plugged into and change accordingly? [22:45] for example i have dhcp set up at one location, but i need to use a static configuration on the other [22:46] is there any tool for creating partitions more than default tool on installer? [22:46] is it possible to install ubuntu without setting up a password? [22:47] EzeQL: gparted [22:47] ev_ thanks [22:48] * unsermeister wishes everybody a good night / a nice day depending on where they live [22:49] so quiet here [22:49] sono dentro? Scusate ma è la prima volta [22:50] Chraz_Ritt: yes [22:51] ev_, can it be done using the graphical installer? [22:53] 11.10 Classic - Every folder in Places opens with Software Center [22:53] Chraz_Ritt: No. [22:54] Chraz_Ritt: using no password? [22:54] can the password be eliminated after the install is done? [22:55] what the hell I'm doing in the lamest distro channel :\ ... [22:55] I don't feel the need to have a password on a machine that i'm the only user of [22:55] Chraz_Ritt: i am definatly no expert, but im pretty sure you need a password for administrative tasks. you dont want to be su all the time [22:56] why'd ya ban him? [22:59] Chraz_Ritt: a quick google turned up this http://pastebin.com/LTnCRq8Q not exactly what you are looking for but may help. you can set it to sign you in with no pass, and the link is for disabaling pw promts. use at your own risk. [22:59] Chraz_Ritt: by 'it' i mean ubuntu, in the login settings [23:00] hi, i'm tying to install 64bit to my new laptop. I create the boot disk on a usb stick, put it in the laptop , but off the usb stick, screen gives me the "SYSLINUX..." msg and then nothing, unresponsive. [23:00] Am I missing something in the process? [23:01] have you Md5 test the iso. [23:01] what happens if you use shred on an ecryptfs partition [23:01] sorry mount [23:01] ie ecryptfs on ext4 [23:02] !md5 > mod [23:02] mod, please see my private message === fhtagn_ is now known as fhtagn === campee_ is now known as campee [23:06] ubottu, don't see one [23:06] mod: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [23:06] wheee [23:07] ev_, it would seem that at least for now i must make a password. [23:07] thanks for your time anyway [23:08] Chraz_Ritt: yea, im pretty sure you must, because you dont want to be superuser all the time, which it seems to me what you would effectivly be with no pass === zenloop_ is now known as zenloop [23:10] mod: which release of Ubuntu 64bit you've downloaded ? === Fuchs is now known as Foxy === Foxy is now known as Fuchs [23:10] Chraz_Ritt: We really need user and admin access passwords. And yea, if you never exposed your computer to the internet (or any other untrusted network), the need would not be so great, but as it is, you really need it and be sure to use a good strong password too. Just a word to the wise. [23:11] so I am not really sure what happened but I can't seem to get to my log-in screen anymore [23:12] tjkent: What do you get instead? [23:12] nothing [23:12] I was switch servers [23:12] but my log-in screen doesn't appear [23:12] <_joey> yet another improvent messed things up [23:12] I can switch servers* [23:12] <_joey> something is overriding the nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf after each reboot [23:13] looks like the installer is crashing on me === |Nephyrin| is now known as Nephyrin [23:13] _joey, network-manager i'd guess [23:13] also I just upgraded to 11.10 but finding that it was a huge mistake [23:14] mod: Choose the release you've got in this link http://releases.ubuntu.com/ check the hashes on the MD5SUMS text file, then md5sum test the iso . [23:14] <_joey> zykotick9: wtf? [23:14] <_joey> why is it doing it? [23:14] tjkent: This is a server? [23:15] no livecd [23:15] if you give me a minute I can reboot and start my other computer [23:15] reboot this system that is [23:16] http://pastebin.com/LTnCRq8Q anyone? [23:18] <_joey> look the idiots are doing sill things and then there are millions of queries and complains on various forums [23:18] <_joey> read long threads without obvious solution [23:18] <_joey> other than locking resolv.conf [23:18] man rsync [23:19] ev^ http://troy.jdmz.net/rsync/index.html; will work faster than scp [23:19] usr13: ok [23:19] Tripp: 404 error :) [23:19] hi how do i find what wifi card i have on 11.10, i can find my ethernet card but not wifi [23:20] ditch the semicolon I put in ^^ [23:20] Tripp: but i see the rsync part [23:21] and is there anyway i can use the current working driver from 11.10 in 11.04 [23:22] yusuo, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported [23:22] I think you'd want something along the lines of rsync -avz -e ssh -oport=8855 user@192.168.0.101:/media/... /home/ev/backupev [23:22] Tripp: thanks for the reply but my problem is not speed but my syntax is incorrect somewhere, i need a proof read [23:22] i know my card doesnt work in 11.04 but it does in 11.10 only problem i hate ubiquity i want gnome 2 back [23:23] ok so is there anyone that might be able to tell me why my log-in screen isn't showing up, I am not on the computer that is having the problem and I have run dmesg === noname is now known as Guest81750 [23:23] <_joey> oh man [23:23] yusuo you can just install gnome [23:23] yusuo, the supported wireless chipsets are usually tied to the kernel, so I think you may be stuck with 11.10 because you need the current kernel [23:23] no i cant, cause its gnome 3 and its not the same, i really dont like it, nor do i like the fallback version [23:24] ok [23:24] can i not use the new kernel in old version [23:24] what kind of ethernet card do you have? [23:24] yusuo, but as tjkent said, you can install gnome shell [23:24] i have gnome fallback on 11.10 but alot of things are missing [23:24] i dont feel comfortable with it [23:24] then try the lts version [23:25] lts??? [23:25] will that have the new kernel [23:25] im gunna leave something on ubuntu forums see what can happen [23:26] no but you can install a new kernel you will just have to customize the shit out of some stuff [23:26] now can anyone help me out as well or no? [23:26] ev_: Oh; srry. You have a colon after the src IP; you don't need that [23:26] thx [23:27] Hey, guys, I have googled a lot, but I am pretty confused... any straightforward idea to install intel HD 3000 graphics driver on Ubuntu? [23:27] ev_: should work http://pastebin.com/6nMRwfdW [23:27] ev_: that's a lie sorry lol [23:28] ev_: http://pastebin.com/JSh0unpM [23:28] #ubuntu-es [23:29] so has many people in here experienced problems with nvidia based cards in ubuntu versions after 10.04? Just done a test run with 10.10, 11.04 and 11.10 where all tests end up in kernel oops. And it seems I'm not the only one, with bugs having been reported with both ubuntu, debian and even centos. [23:29] no problems at all in 10.04 LTS though [23:30] Tripp_thx. i will try that when i am back at computer. i used screen to follow this on cell while out. [23:30] Hello! [23:30] Could you help me? [23:31] ^^ [23:31] I have installed Xubuntu 11.04 on a old laptop an Ihave installed too XBMC [23:32] What i want to do is to start XBMC at the begining without xface [23:32] How should I do? [23:34] Hey, guys, I have googled a lot, but I am pretty confused... any straightforward idea to install intel HD 3000 graphics driver on Ubuntu? [23:35] Hi [23:35] hi all [23:35] nacho_: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Install_XBMC_on_Ubuntu#Autostart_XBMC_.28optional.29 [23:35] need help with ubuntu 11.10 [23:36] nacho_: readily available through a quick google search [23:36] i need to reset my password by updating my boot options in the grub menu, but it doesnt stop when pressing ESC on boot [23:36] i dont think grub is installed [23:36] how can i reset my pass ? [23:37] need help installing video driver for my ubuntu 11,10 pleasse [23:37] I have lost my boot partition upon restart, and now my ext2 /dev/sda1 is identifying as GPT, does anyone know how to repair this type of problem? [23:38] DuCkNeT: what type of video card? [23:38] boontoo: 01:04.0 VGA compatible controller: XGI Technology Inc. (eXtreme Graphics Innovation) Z7/Z9 (XG20 core) [23:39] this is from lspci [23:39] ok so is there anyone that might be able to tell me why my log-in screen isn't showing up, I am not on the computer that is having the problem and I have run dmesg can any help please ubuntu 11.10 [23:39] tjkent: sorry sounds like the same problem I am having === jon___ is now known as skpl [23:39] tjkent: probably don't have GRUB working right [23:40] no grub is fine [23:40] I mean I am looking at my computer and it is loaded I can switch servers and everything just can't load anything [23:40] rather my log-in screen [23:41] DuCkNeT:http://www.winischhofer.net/linuxsisvga.shtml [23:41] tjkent: I don't understand the specific problem...no gui for login? [23:42] yea it is just a black screen [23:42] tjkent: what about ctrl+alt+f2 [23:42] yea [23:42] I have that [23:42] tjkent: does that get you a shell? [23:42] yea [23:42] okay, are you running GNOME or KDM, or what display manager [23:42] Hi there, I still can't kill my X server. Can I boot the computer into recovery node? I've forgotten how to do that since they updated GRUB [23:43] leeping, you use shift [23:43] tjkent: what is your display manager? [23:43] robin0800, tried already, didn't work [23:44] well I installed gnome but unity was with it [23:44] leeping, /etc/init.d/lightdm stop [23:44] tolecnal, Yea, but this is with ubuntu, is not the same with Xface (or terminal i dont care) [23:44] leeping, try the right hand shift [23:44] another way of making sure its killed is too boot to the the run level 3 [23:44] so it would be sudo /sbin/init 3 [23:44] tjkent: Do you have all of the dependencies for gnome, I mean did it work prior? [23:45] yea [23:45] dardevelin, I did that. I still cannot install the NVidia driver. I am suspecting that it is not detecting whether my X server is running by the processes but instead by a file [23:45] I mean I can type any commands you want in it [23:46] hi [23:46] looking through dmesg I don't see anything that really stcked out [23:46] boontoo: thx i will try thanks alot!!! [23:46] sicks* [23:46] leeping, i don't think that x is being your problem [23:46] DuCkNeT: no problem, good lucjk [23:46] leeping, do you kernel headers + build essentials + nouveau drivers completely blocked ? [23:46] because X would be auto shutdown with a sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm stop [23:47] i have 96 text files id like to have something comb through and put every paragraph on its own line, or at least get rid of those annoying skinny columns that seem to happen randomly. anything that can do that quick and easy? [23:47] tjkent: well, a missing dependency would not give a dmesg error I don't think...have you tried to stop and restart gdm to see if it gives you an error? [23:47] i running ubuntu 10.10 i haven problems with mt real tec 5.1 sound working [23:47] leeping, i'm assuming your on tty [23:47] dardevelin, I don't know. How do I block them? [23:47] lemme try [23:47] dardevelin, I cannot get a terminal on my workstation but I have logged in remotely. [23:47] I am assuming stopx would be the command yes? [23:47] leeping, can you see its grub ? [23:47] tjkent: no [23:47] tjkent: let me see if I can find it [23:47] you would need to block then in the grub [23:48] dardevelin, I tried both shift keys, it appears to boot into X no matter what [23:48] hmmmm [23:48] is it me or xorg.conf changed place??? [23:48] tjkent: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart [23:48] you would pass after the UUID rdblacklist=nouveua nouveau.modeset=0 [23:49] leeping, you would pass after the UUID rdblacklist=nouveua nouveau.modeset=0 [23:49] DuCkNeT: should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf...I think [23:49] dardevelin, thanks. I know this used to be in menu.lst. But where is it with the new grub? [23:49] yeah thats what i figure... its no where to be found .... [23:49] weird problem with proxychains: setting 4 proxies, it works only with two of them. All proxies works,but proxychains dont seems to see it. Strict chains is used. Any clue? [23:49] leeping, that should pass block it... Another way is to use modprobe ( but i don't know how to add ) and nvidia drivers should be able to do so [23:50] leeping, etc/defalt/grub [23:50] hi all [23:50] robin0800, leeping , the grub boot file says do not add this [23:50] I want to know the complete command to type on the terminal to see dns, ip local [23:50] robin0800, there is nothing corresponding to the UUID here. [23:50] http://imagebin.org/181156 [23:51] there is GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT. Should I put it there? [23:51] DuCkNeT: that could be your problem, if your card is supported (which I did not see listed on that link) then there should be a driver that you can install for it in synaptic. When you do, it will ideally generate xorg.conf. [23:51] robin0800, leeping , the file is grub.cfg ( but there is a warning saying to not edit manually ) [23:51] DuCkNeT: has this card worked in the past? [23:51] get ready because it comes and we must welcome the devil remember that was the right hand of God and the will to do will decide the god with the devil. do not you ladies and gentlemen know a spot you speak! if you piraxei the Bible and you give the world differently shame in yourself you you you called Lucifer Devil: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSEW0NJdGYA [23:51] so i need to add a outb 0x750 0 to grub, how do I do this, its not a kernel command line option like most faqs describe [23:51] boontoo ok i will look into it [23:51] DuCkNeT: cool [23:52] dardevelin, that is because its not [23:52] boontoo honnestly dont know its a system i got for free so and i absolutelly want ubuntu run on it [23:52] at all cost [23:52] <_bogus_> hey there, is there anyway to install nvidia drivers in an optional way that i can boot ubuntu with or without using it (native drivers then) in bootloader ?? [23:52] lol [23:52] <_joey> Ubuntu is getting worse with every release [23:52] I think I see the problem. The packages xserver-xorg-video-nouveau and libdrm-nouveau1a are installed. I have no idea how this happened [23:52] anybody got a confirmed fix to keep Banshee from crashing more than Tiger Woods in an Escalade in 11.10? [23:52] <_joey> It's following the path of all other major releases that has been out of touch [23:52] <_joey> fuckers [23:53] myk_robinson: i use it all the time, seldomly crashes. Maybe something local causes it? [23:53] _joey: So switch to something that you like. Easy. [23:53] DuCkNeT: good luck, video cards are really tricky if they are not supported. Sometimes there are proprietary non-free drivers that you can use which don't cost money...but they are often a pain. You can also google linux drivers for that particular card [23:53] _joey: thanks, i appreciate your cantor [23:53] tomodachi: This is on a clean install, had it happen on my desktop and laptop. Nothing of the sort in 11.04. I can try purging the config directory and see if that helps [23:53] <_joey> switch10: exactly [23:53] leeping, i wouldn't recommend you to uninstall them [23:54] myk_robinson: mine is an upgrade. it crashes from time to time, but id say maybe once every three weeks [23:54] dardevelin, I know, if i try to uninstall it, it also uninstalls 100 or so other packages. [23:54] tomodachi: in most cases its fine, but ive had to force close it three times in the last 30 minutes or so.. I know I have other options, but I actually like Banshee :) [23:54] _joey: you are not hurting anyones feelings by doing so. No need to rant. [23:54] boontoo: ive been trying for 2 weeks not... starting to be fed up... [23:54] leeping, other packages might install it again, and here you uninstall one more time. While if you block them successfully its a better job [23:54] DuCkNeT: yeah, if it is not supported, it may be a no-go [23:55] <_joey> switch10: sorry. It was out of frastration. [23:55] http://gawker.com/5854065/actor-omar-sharif-slaps-a-woman-on-camera <-- the fucking loon needs to be medicated [23:56] dardevelin, okay, i will try this. I think I am close. :) [23:56] leeping, its just a matter of blocking them b4 kernel starts up ( on the grub ) [23:56] sorry, wrong window [23:58] Boontoo: no such luck [23:58] can't believe that there is still smartys trying to *hack* people via irc [23:59] tjkent: what was the output? [23:59] dardevelin, okay, I successfully got the root prompt on my workstation :) soon I will block the module. thank you [23:59] "rather than invoking init scrpits through /etc/init.d use the service(8) utility [23:59] then some other stuff