| DrCherry | how can I figure out what device my wireless is? It's not under /dev/wlan0 as expected. | 00:06 |
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| BarkingFish | DrCherry, can you show me the output of the iwconfig command in your terminal please? | 00:16 |
| DrCherry | it says wlan0 | 00:16 |
| BarkingFish | can you connect through it? | 00:16 |
| DrCherry | i can dump the whole thing to a pastebin | 00:16 |
| BarkingFish | no, that's fine. If it says it's wlan0, that's good. | 00:17 |
| DrCherry | wait, no I can't easily, its this little acer aspire | 00:17 |
| DrCherry | so where do I find it in /dev ? | 00:17 |
| DrCherry | It's one of those Atheros cips but not under /dev/Ath0 | 00:17 |
| DrCherry | I'm stumped by this one but not super familiar with ubuntu | 00:18 |
| BarkingFish | I'm just having a look now. | 00:18 |
| BarkingFish | I don't run ubuntu either, I run kubuntu, but the base layout of directories is the same, so it should be somewhere I can find quite quickly if it's listed | 00:19 |
| DrCherry | I'm trying to run wavemon and reflexively put in /dev/wlan0 and was surprised | 00:19 |
| BarkingFish | it's internal wifi, so I'm guessing it probably doesn't go through /dev/ | 00:20 |
| DrCherry | ohhhhh | 00:21 |
| BarkingFish | could you do this for me please: lspci | grep net | 00:21 |
| DrCherry | so how to refer to it on the command line | 00:21 |
| BarkingFish | DrCherry, depends on what you want to do with it through the command line | 00:22 |
| DrCherry | it's not on the net but it's 3:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. | 00:22 |
| DrCherry | AR242x AR542x Wireless ... PCI-Express | 00:23 |
| BarkingFish | The best things I'd suggest is that you read the help of iwconfig and iwlist - they do most of the stuff you want with wifi via the cli | 00:23 |
| DrCherry | I'll do that thanks ... gotta run, thx for your time. | 00:24 |
| BarkingFish | you can scan for APs with iwlist wlan0 scanning for example, or set a fixed connection speed with iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M fixed if you want. | 00:25 |
| BarkingFish | just type iwconfig - - help and iwlist - - help and those should give you most of the info you need | 00:25 |
| babble | hey all: I used relinux (http://relinux.sourceforge.net/) to make a live image of my current system, and I *think* it enabled zramswap (I had zram enabled as swap on rebooting to my desktop) - I couldn't find anyplace in /etc/init.d to disable it; where should I be looking? | 01:38 |
| moetunes | babble: have a look in /etc/fstab maybe | 02:17 |
| babble_ | moetunes: yeah, I thought about that, but the only entries in fstab are UUIDs for my physical swap and my root filesystem. | 02:18 |
| === babble_ is now known as babble | ||
| S_SubZero | how do I map a network drive (smb) in Xubuntu? | 03:39 |
| Unit193 | S_SubZero: Install gvfs-backends and open gigolo | 03:40 |
| S_SubZero | ah there we go, was wondering how to get that | 03:42 |
| S_SubZero | humph, can't connect.. i'll fiddle with it later, at least the option is there now | 03:48 |
| holstein | kupfer is a nice light alternative to gnome-do that i just tried | 04:48 |
| well_laid_lawn | !info kupfer | 04:49 |
| ubottu | kupfer (source: kupfer): fast and lightweight desktop summoner/launcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0+v206-1 (oneiric), package size 644 kB, installed size 3164 kB | 04:49 |
| holstein | i was thinking it was KDE, and would pull a bunch of things in, but it is very lean | 04:50 |
| holstein | not KDE at all :) | 04:50 |
| babble | oh, in Xfce, Appfinder is all I really need | 04:59 |
| Infekted | no one ever says anything in here i swear | 06:20 |
| S_SubZero | ok.. uh.. so how do I get the desktop icons to not be transparent | 06:27 |
| well_laid_lawn | have a look in window manager tweaks | 06:29 |
| S_SubZero | i don't see anything for it, not a big deal just on my wallpaper they are kinda ghosty | 06:40 |
| well_laid_lawn | I thought in the compositor settings | 06:41 |
| Infekted | anyone here | 06:45 |
| zus | is there a different network connection manager in xubuntu than that of ubuntu or mint? also i as because i never had any trouble with my pass word to my net connection till now,...the only difference is the os. | 07:02 |
| zus | hmm rather - it was not accepting my password but took the string of numbers that my password generated. | 07:03 |
| zus | O/ well_laid_lawn . hows it going? | 07:04 |
| well_laid_lawn | zus: always good :) | 07:07 |
| zus | good :) | 07:07 |
| zus | is there a different network connection manager in xubuntu than that of ubuntu or mint? also i as because i never had any trouble with my pass word to my net connection till now,...the only difference is the os. | 07:15 |
| zus | hmm rather - it was not accepting my password but took the string of numbers that my password generated. | 07:15 |
| well_laid_lawn | I dunno about that | 07:17 |
| zus | it was a bit strange, i have never needed the "random number/letter string" | 07:17 |
| well_laid_lawn | I don't know what that is... | 07:18 |
| zus | when i first set up the router and put in a password it gave me a long ridiculous number/letter string | 07:18 |
| well_laid_lawn | my router just went with the password I set | 07:19 |
| zus | glad i wrote it down, cos my paswrd worked till i used xubuntu. i had to use that, my password wouldnt even light up the connect button. out of all the distros ive tried, xubuntu was the only one | 07:20 |
| zus | no biggie im on that counts but i was just curious | 07:20 |
| mikodo | Hi guys, Sorry I am trying to learn how to use pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/720436/ | 07:21 |
| well_laid_lawn | that's 1 test that's gone well | 07:21 |
| zus | mikodo, try imagebin for pic for the times youll need a screenshot :) | 07:22 |
| mikodo | well_laid-lawn, Thanks. I guess I did it :^) | 07:22 |
| mikodo | ZUS, OK! | 07:22 |
| zus | mikodo, works the same was just with pics, :) | 07:23 |
| mikodo | Thanks guys! | 07:24 |
| zus | :) | 07:25 |
| well_laid_lawn | !tab | mikodo | 07:27 |
| ubottu | mikodo: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. | 07:27 |
| well_laid_lawn | like wel<tab> gives well_laid_lawn | 07:27 |
| mikodo | well_laid_lawn, well I'll be darned; thanks | 07:29 |
| well_laid_lawn | cheers :) | 07:29 |
| sofias | hi there | 07:30 |
| sofias | does anyone know how to restore the ability to go into standby in 11.10? | 07:31 |
| sofias | it's not working since i made die upgrade… | 07:32 |
| zus | would this work as well for thunar? for installing dropbox and not getting alot of dependencies and forcing it to use thunar? http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/doku.php?id=dropbox:no_install_no_nautilus ? | 07:32 |
| zus | i know bodhi is ubuntu based and have friend who had this work, worked for me on my desktop. | 07:35 |
| mikodo | ubuntulog, "as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line" Works good, for programs, probably faster than than app finder thing in Unity | 07:37 |
| sofias | it also seems that it still not supports btrfs, it's doing an fs check (i guess) everytime i boot it… | 07:38 |
| sofias | the problem exists since i installed 11.4 it on my eee-pc t101mt… | 07:41 |
| well_laid_lawn | btrfs isn't production ready afaik | 07:42 |
| sofias | well_laid_lawn: good to know… i wanted to reinstall the whole thing anyway, since i realized that my cpu supports amd64… | 07:44 |
| well_laid_lawn | ;) | 07:45 |
| sofias | what fs do you suggest? is ext4 ready? | 07:46 |
| well_laid_lawn | has been for ages | 07:46 |
| zus | how can i change thunar to display a field i can type in over the square button path thingy? | 07:47 |
| well_laid_lawn | I think ext4 is safest for everyday use | 07:47 |
| well_laid_lawn | zus: with thunar open just start typing and look at bottom left | 07:48 |
| well_laid_lawn | oops bottom right | 07:48 |
| zus | thanks | 07:49 |
| sofias | well_laid_lawn: thanks again. yopu know how likely is it that standy works after a reinstall? | 07:54 |
| well_laid_lawn | sofias: I never bother with standby so I couldn't say | 07:55 |
| sofias | k | 07:55 |
| packrit | bonjour, | 10:26 |
| packrit | peut on parler français ici ? | 10:27 |
| knome | !fr | packrit | 10:27 |
| ubottu | packrit: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 10:27 |
| packrit | merci. | 10:28 |
| === michael is now known as antismap | ||
| pimperle | how can i change the keyboard layout systemwide to disable dead keys? | 11:16 |
| xubuntu410 | Hi | 11:17 |
| well_laid_lawn | if you have dead keys you either have a funny keyboard or yhe wrong keymap | 11:17 |
| well_laid_lawn | s/yh/th/ | 11:18 |
| scotty | Hello all | 11:20 |
| pimperle | well_laid_lawn: well, how do i change systems keymap? I could try xfces settings, but i'd prefer global setting for x | 11:25 |
| well_laid_lawn | pimperle: it'll depend on the different ways you start X | 11:26 |
| pimperle | oh, i hoped xubuntu used the same way on every installation. however i know, that i have an xorg.conf file which has been created by the binary nvidia driver | 11:27 |
| well_laid_lawn | xubuntu uses the xfce4 setting for the keyboard - why does a different installation matter? | 11:29 |
| pimperle | also the mute-button on the keyboard doesn't unmute the sound if pressed again (starting from oneiric). could this be related to the map changing? | 11:30 |
| pimperle | in natty mute worked and dead keys were disabled | 11:30 |
| well_laid_lawn | the key probably isn't mapped to toggle just mute | 11:30 |
| scotty | Does anyone know why the CPU fan always runs in Xubuntu? | 11:31 |
| pimperle | it toggles something, as the volume indicator popup shows the muted / unmuted icon | 11:31 |
| pimperle | however the volume just doesn't get unmuted, the volume applet in the right upper corner (little speaker symbol) stays muted. | 11:32 |
| pimperle | so the problem is not between the keyboard and the volume system | 11:32 |
| === scotty is now known as StormStrikes | ||
| StormStrikes | Does anyone know why the CPU fan always runs in Xubuntu? | 11:35 |
| StormStrikes | Im running 11.10 on a Dell XPS 17 L702x and the fan never shuts off. | 11:35 |
| well_laid_lawn | pimperle: check in the keyboard settings what the key is mapped to | 11:36 |
| well_laid_lawn | StormStrikes: is it the cpu fan or the one on the graphics? | 11:36 |
| pimperle | well_laid_lawn: there's no mapping in the xfce keyboard shortcut settings for this key, however it looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/871093 to me | 11:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 871093 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Notify-OSD and sound-indicator contradict each other after unmute" [Undecided,New] | 11:37 |
| well_laid_lawn | could be | 11:37 |
| well_laid_lawn | hard to see from here ;) | 11:37 |
| StormStrikes | well_laid_lawn: When I pulled the thing apart to make sure there was enough thermal paste, there is only one fan | 11:38 |
| well_laid_lawn | k | 11:38 |
| well_laid_lawn | !sensors | 11:38 |
| ubottu | To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions. | 11:38 |
| StormStrikes | So Im not sure which of the pieces is keeping it on | 11:38 |
| well_laid_lawn | StormStrikes: it might be a driver issue | 11:38 |
| well_laid_lawn | but I wouldn't think so - what's the hardware? | 11:39 |
| StormStrikes | i5 CPU, Nvidia 550M, GM45 integrated graphics I believe | 11:39 |
| well_laid_lawn | what's that nvidia bit? | 11:40 |
| well_laid_lawn | if you have integrated graphics? | 11:40 |
| well_laid_lawn | lspci | grep -i vga | 11:41 |
| StormStrikes | Its the Optimus system, which I dont have working, but it uses the integrated card for normal computing and switches to the nvidia for 3d and such | 11:42 |
| well_laid_lawn | afaik you need bumblebee or the nvidia disabled in the bios | 11:43 |
| well_laid_lawn | !info bumblebee | 11:43 |
| ubottu | Package bumblebee does not exist in oneiric | 11:43 |
| well_laid_lawn | o | 11:43 |
| well_laid_lawn | so try with the nvidia disabled if you don't use it | 11:43 |
| StormStrikes | I cannot disable in in bios unfortunately. And Ive seen bumblebee but there is different info as to whether to use bumble bee or ironhide | 11:44 |
| well_laid_lawn | k I know nothing about it | 11:44 |
| StormStrikes | I have nvidia disabled in the sence that I have no drivers, proprietary or otherwise on the system. | 11:44 |
| well_laid_lawn | just thinking the graphics might be the reason for the fan | 11:44 |
| StormStrikes | Me either unfortunately...its the first laptop that I have bought with higher end hardware and I cant get it working, LOL | 11:44 |
| StormStrikes | Thats been my leaning too, but it kills battery life and if I can turn it off I would be on the road to being a happy camper | 11:45 |
| well_laid_lawn | you've checked in top that there's nothing working the cpu hard? | 11:47 |
| StormStrikes | correct | 11:47 |
| well_laid_lawn | k | 11:47 |
| StormStrikes | right now, its running about 4% of the CPU and fan is going strong | 11:48 |
| well_laid_lawn | maybe using cpufreq will do something | 11:48 |
| well_laid_lawn | !info cpufreq | 11:48 |
| ubottu | Package cpufreq does not exist in oneiric | 11:48 |
| well_laid_lawn | !find cpufreq | 11:48 |
| ubottu | Found: awn-applet-cpufreq, cpufreqd, cpufrequtils, libcpufreq-dev, libcpufreq0 | 11:48 |
| well_laid_lawn | !info cpufreqd | 11:48 |
| ubottu | cpufreqd (source: cpufreqd): fully configurable daemon for dynamic frequency and voltage scaling. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.2-1 (oneiric), package size 78 kB, installed size 380 kB | 11:48 |
| Srirangan | dropping in to say thank you to the xubuntu team .. xfce /xubuntu saved the day after gnome 3 / unity shat all over my ati amd video card | 11:48 |
| StormStrikes | I just checked the sensors and the cores are running 48 - 50c | 11:51 |
| well_laid_lawn | so it's running flat out 'cause of the temp | 11:52 |
| well_laid_lawn | not* | 11:52 |
| StormStrikes | right, they arent high at all... | 11:52 |
| StormStrikes | Let me ask about another couple issues. First, there is no bluetooth icon in the menu bar. There was one under Ubuntu 11.10. Am I missing something in xubuntu that I can add? | 12:03 |
| well_laid_lawn | tried right clicking the panel and adding one? | 12:07 |
| StormStrikes | There is nothing bluetooth related that can be added | 12:08 |
| well_laid_lawn | o | 12:08 |
| madnick | StormStrikes: checked "Settings -> Bluetooth"? | 12:09 |
| madnick | That should give you an icon, then just add it to autostart | 12:09 |
| StormStrikes | Failed to execute command "gnome-control-center bluetooth" | 12:09 |
| madnick | gnome-control-center? | 12:09 |
| StormStrikes | right (No such file or directory) | 12:10 |
| madnick | Well, xubuntu does not use that | 12:10 |
| madnick | And I meant, under settings in the panel menu, not in the xfce settings | 12:11 |
| StormStrikes | Oh, well theres the problem I suppose. What should I have installed. | 12:11 |
| StormStrikes | Yeah, thats where I went Menu > Settings > Bluetooth | 12:11 |
| madnick | Still no icon? | 12:12 |
| madnick | oh | 12:12 |
| StormStrikes | Yeah, when I try to launch it, I get the above mentioned error | 12:12 |
| madnick | Do you have Xubuntu, or did you install xubuntu-desktop? | 12:12 |
| StormStrikes | I have Xubuntu, did a fresh install | 12:13 |
| StormStrikes | 11.10 | 12:13 |
| madnick | Let me check | 12:13 |
| madnick | what it says for me | 12:13 |
| StormStrikes | Thank you so much... | 12:13 |
| madnick | StormStrikes: what if you run "blueman-applet" | 12:14 |
| madnick | in a terminal | 12:14 |
| StormStrikes | in terminal? | 12:14 |
| StormStrikes | It says there is already an instance running | 12:15 |
| madnick | O_o | 12:15 |
| StormStrikes | LOL | 12:15 |
| madnick | Is this a developer install or the release? | 12:16 |
| StormStrikes | release | 12:16 |
| madnick | what if you kill blueman-applet and rerun it? :P | 12:16 |
| StormStrikes | In the session and start up it shows bluetooth manager set to start at boot | 12:16 |
| StormStrikes | lemme try that | 12:16 |
| well_laid_lawn | maybe dmesg has something about it | 12:18 |
| StormStrikes | do that by running 'sudo blueman-applet stop' right? | 12:18 |
| madnick | I would just run "killall blueman-applet" | 12:18 |
| StormStrikes | done | 12:18 |
| StormStrikes | What would I be looking for in dmesg about bluetooth, anything specific? | 12:21 |
| madnick | I ran it in Virtualbox, and no applet there, but I have it on my install | 12:23 |
| madnick | Excatly the same problem you described when i run in virtualbox | 12:23 |
| StormStrikes | hmmm | 12:23 |
| StormStrikes | Im not running it virtually just in case your scratching your head, LOL | 12:23 |
| StormStrikes | Im not terminal expert, I try to use it every chance I get, but to restart the applet I would just run sudo blueman-applet start? | 12:24 |
| madnick | Well, at this point im just guessing what could cause this, im wondering what would happen if one does not acctually have bluetooth/bluetooth drivers | 12:24 |
| madnick | And uses the applet | 12:24 |
| StormStrikes | I have bluetooth, certain of that and it seemingly worked in ubuntu in that I had the icon, could turn it on and off I just never connected anything with it | 12:25 |
| madnick | been peaking at logs etc, i find no releveant information | 12:29 |
| moetunes | maybe have a look at lshw or gtk-lshw | 12:31 |
| madnick | my blueman does not start due to not having an adapter it seems | 12:35 |
| holstein | any luck making preffered applications stick? such as chromium-browser for the web? | 12:57 |
| TheSheep | holstein: sure, just copy the defaults file from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/applications and edit it | 13:03 |
| * holstein looking TheSheep | 13:04 | |
| holstein | thanks...i was confused by the GUI one | 13:04 |
| TheSheep | the problem is that there are several sources of information for default apps | 13:05 |
| TheSheep | and different applications use different ones as authoritative | 13:05 |
| holstein | defaults.list? | 13:05 |
| TheSheep | yeah | 13:05 |
| holstein | so... this seem right? changing x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop to x-scheme-handler/http=/usr/bin/chromium-browser ?? | 13:12 |
| gebi | hi all :) | 13:16 |
| gebi | THX for xubuntu-desktop otherwise new ubuntu would be useless for most of my users :)! | 13:16 |
| TheSheep | holstein: you need to change both http and https | 13:17 |
| TheSheep | holstein: and you need to point them to the desktop file | 13:17 |
| holstein | OK... so, not /usr/share then | 13:18 |
| * holstein still looking... | 13:18 | |
| TheSheep | holstein: they are all in the /usr/share/applications | 13:18 |
| holstein | eh... still getting a pop-up | 13:24 |
| holstein | whatever... i'll chew on this issue as i go | 13:24 |
| holstein | this is when i reboot, i get the default browser pop-up | 13:31 |
| holstein | by the way... | 13:31 |
| holstein | nah... i cant seem to sort it out from working with that file | 13:39 |
| holstein | i tried the full path the *.desktop | 13:40 |
| TheSheep | don;t use full path, just the file name | 13:41 |
| holstein | yup | 13:41 |
| holstein | thats what i did before using the full path | 13:41 |
| holstein | using the full path is a bad idea though... the pop-up about the default browser has no options in it, and it hangs til i kill the browser | 13:42 |
| TheSheep | O.o | 13:42 |
| holstein | anyways, now im back to just rm-ing that file, and answering once each reboot i suppose | 13:42 |
| TheSheep | you can try the settings editor | 13:43 |
| * holstein looking | 13:45 | |
| EagleScreen | I have a problem with xubuntu 11.10 | 13:46 |
| EagleScreen | to browse a phone via bluetooth, blueman want to open nautilus, but it is not installed (and it shouldn't) | 13:47 |
| holstein | hmmm, i havent had any reasong to use blueman EagleScreen , but i used nautilus before | 13:48 |
| holstein | i think it was with the -nodestkop option... is using nautilus out of the question? | 13:48 |
| EagleScreen | blueman is the default tool i have installed | 13:48 |
| holstein | EagleScreen: check out http://blueman-project.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=80 | 13:50 |
| holstein | by nickums » 24 Apr 2009, 15:26 | 13:50 |
| holstein | 5th one down or so... | 13:51 |
| xubuntu578 | hi | 13:54 |
| xubuntu578 | he told me thanks for installing, but de bar is not ful | 13:54 |
| xubuntu578 | so it seems he is still busy | 13:54 |
| holstein | xubuntu984: ? | 13:56 |
| holstein | you mean EagleScreen ? | 13:57 |
| xubuntu578 | I guess, new to xubuntu | 13:58 |
| EagleScreen | holstein: I see the workaround suggested in that forum | 13:58 |
| holstein | EagleScreen: you see it? or you tried it? | 13:58 |
| EagleScreen | not by the moment | 13:58 |
| EagleScreen | i am now at work with Windows XP | 13:59 |
| EagleScreen | i will try it later | 13:59 |
| holstein | EagleScreen: :) | 13:59 |
| xubuntu578 | I just installed xubuntu, or so I thought | 13:59 |
| EagleScreen | but i did expect not to have to do that kind of workarunds in default Xubuntu installation | 13:59 |
| holstein | xubuntu984: i thought you were joinging and speaking for EagleScreen due to an internet issue | 13:59 |
| holstein | EagleScreen: ? | 14:00 |
| holstein | AFAIK, blueman is not in xubuntu by default | 14:00 |
| holstein | and it (blueman) supports a different filemanager by default than what comes with xubuntu | 14:00 |
| holstein | so, you have options | 14:00 |
| holstein | install nautilu | 14:00 |
| holstein | s | 14:00 |
| xubuntu578 | But any idea he is just still installing, don;t see any gui as well atm | 14:01 |
| EagleScreen | how not? blueman is isntalled by default in my xubuntu | 14:01 |
| holstein | change the default filemanager setting (assuming blueman functions with this setting edited) | 14:01 |
| holstein | EagleScreen: maybe it is... thats why i said AFAIK | 14:01 |
| holstein | in that case, i would file a bug | 14:02 |
| holstein | and include this workaround if it works | 14:02 |
| holstein | EagleScreen: could be that just not enough folks use it to have caught the issue | 14:02 |
| holstein | i know, i dont have much bluetooth hardware, and i just connect the phone wifi or use dropbox or whatever | 14:03 |
| holstein | EagleScreen: yeah... heres one | 14:04 |
| holstein | https://bugs.launchpad.net/blueman/+bug/229139 | 14:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 229139 in Blueman "Nautilus required as Window Manager" [High,Fix released] | 14:04 |
| holstein | EagleScreen: you can add yourself there and keep up to date as that fix is released | 14:04 |
| EagleScreen | according that bug it is fix released... | 14:05 |
| holstein | xubuntu578: not sure im following you.. but i usually take time with the live CD and make that get to a desktop.. a GUI | 14:05 |
| EagleScreen | but i am sufferinr of it | 14:05 |
| holstein | EagleScreen: right, so you can keep up with it... go in there and say 'i still have it'... see who release the fix and ping them if you can | 14:06 |
| xubuntu578 | so I just have to wait for a few hours or something? | 14:06 |
| EagleScreen | ok | 14:06 |
| holstein | xubuntu578: depends on what you are waiting on... i would actively take the live ISO and get to the desktop first | 14:07 |
| holstein | using whatever methods needed... 'nomodeset' or whatever other safe-desktop modes might be needed | 14:07 |
| holstein | then, i would run lspci and poke around a bit.. see how the sound works.. multimedia keys.... whatever else | 14:07 |
| holstein | then, install :) | 14:07 |
| xubuntu578 | but he seems busy installing | 14:09 |
| holstein | xubuntu578: he? | 14:09 |
| holstein | the machine is installing? | 14:09 |
| holstein | im not sure what/how you are installing | 14:09 |
| xubuntu578 | yes, in think so | 14:09 |
| xubuntu578 | i try to install xunbuntu from cd | 14:09 |
| holstein | well, either its wrting to the hard drive, or its not | 14:09 |
| holstein | i would think on a modern system it shouldnt take long | 14:10 |
| xubuntu578 | yes, from then sound of it it is.. | 14:10 |
| holstein | wont hurt anything to wait a while | 14:10 |
| xubuntu578 | itś a 10-year old computer :P | 14:10 |
| holstein | could hurt something to force power off, though sometimes thats what you have to do | 14:11 |
| holstein | if its an old box, and it seems like its writing, i would wait | 14:11 |
| GridCube | xubuntu578: you are using the alternate cd? | 14:11 |
| xubuntu578 | ok, thne I wait some more.. | 14:11 |
| GridCube | if you do press alt-f4 and see the changelog :P | 14:11 |
| GridCube | it will tell you exactly whats happening | 14:12 |
| xubuntu578 | alt F4 will only abort the instalation | 14:13 |
| xubuntu578 | is there some task manager I could check? | 14:14 |
| GridCube | xubuntu578: oh. you are using the gui installer? | 14:15 |
| xubuntu578 | yes, I guess.. | 14:15 |
| GridCube | then ctrl-alt-fn one of the f[1-6] should show you the installer logs | 14:15 |
| GridCube | i never do gui installs, never for old computers either | 14:16 |
| GridCube | alternate is far better and faster | 14:16 |
| holstein | agreed, though i still like to try and run the LIVE cd to see how the hardward support is going to be | 14:17 |
| kalib | Hi people. Something is wrong. I did install my xubuntu right now but it is booting with the wrong keyboard layout. So, I can't log in with my user... | 14:30 |
| kalib | How can I change the keyboard layout to boot with the correct one? | 14:31 |
| kalib | I can Only log in with guest (no password). | 14:31 |
| holstein | kalib: does this help? | 14:33 |
| holstein | http://igrudge.net/keyboard-layout-ubuntu-server-11-04/ | 14:33 |
| holstein | i think you need something you can drop in TTY i suppose, assuming you can loging somewhere | 14:33 |
| kalib | holstein, no.. | 14:33 |
| holstein | if now, you might need to edit the file from a live CD | 14:33 |
| holstein | if not* | 14:33 |
| kalib | because when I go to tty (CTRL + ALT + F2), I can't log in.. | 14:34 |
| holstein | kalib: so, using a live CD to edit the file is not an options? | 14:34 |
| kalib | because the layout is wrong.. | 14:34 |
| holstein | option* | 14:34 |
| kalib | when I try to type thge username and password.. | 14:34 |
| holstein | kalib: right | 14:34 |
| kalib | I got wrong chars. | 14:34 |
| holstein | kalib: can you use a live CD to edit the local file? | 14:34 |
| kalib | holstein, using a live cd would work. | 14:34 |
| kalib | which file should I edit? | 14:34 |
| holstein | kalib: the link i gave suggests editing /etc/default/keyboard | 14:35 |
| kalib | thanks | 14:35 |
| kalib | I'll try it right now. | 14:35 |
| holstein | i say, as long as you keep track of what you mess with, and know how to change them back you can experiment a bit | 14:35 |
| kalib | holstein, worked. thanks] | 15:00 |
| holstein | kalib: o/ | 15:18 |
| pertutatis | hi, please, how can I disable click on touchpad? | 15:33 |
| GridCube | !synaptics | 15:33 |
| ubottu | For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad | 15:33 |
| GridCube | pertutatis: ^^^ | 15:34 |
| pertutatis | ok thanks | 15:34 |
| holstein | how about disabling the keyboard while typing? | 15:36 |
| holstein | disable the touchpad** | 15:36 |
| pertutatis | one more thing, how can I get icon picture preview on desktop? | 15:36 |
| ElderDryas | holstein: Settings>Removable Drives and Media>Input Devices>Mice synclient TouchPadOff=1 | 15:38 |
| pertutatis | sorry ElderDryas, can you be more especific? | 15:41 |
| ElderDryas | how? I gave you where and what to to put there? | 15:42 |
| holstein | ElderDryas: o/ | 15:42 |
| * holstein looking | 15:42 | |
| pertutatis | sorry, I am a rookie here, so I have to type that on the mouse (enabled)? | 15:43 |
| ElderDryas | Menu>Settings>.....put the command in the box and click the checkbox | 15:43 |
| holstein | yeah, im just new to XFCE... im not seeing it though | 15:44 |
| pertutatis | where it says "automatically run this program when USB mouse is connected"? | 15:44 |
| holstein | pertutatis: are you in 11.10? | 15:44 |
| pertutatis | yes 11.10 | 15:44 |
| holstein | OK | 15:44 |
| drvladimirtzu | How can I get rid of those infuriating little black box notifications every time I get an im or something? | 15:44 |
| holstein | drvladimirtzu: http://www.linux-archive.org/xubuntu-user/404394-how-turn-off-desktop-popups.html suggests removing notify-osd and its not too old of a post | 15:47 |
| holstein | i have not tried it though, so i would do some research about it first | 15:47 |
| holstein | !notify-osd | 15:48 |
| GridCube | !info notify-osd | 15:48 |
| ubottu | notify-osd (source: notify-osd): daemon that displays passive pop-up notifications. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.32-0ubuntu3 (oneiric), package size 117 kB, installed size 896 kB | 15:48 |
| Sysi | drvladimirtzu: set your IM app to not send notifications | 15:49 |
| Sysi | or your irc client if you ment that | 15:49 |
| drvladimirtzu | holstein sysi: Thanks guys. Sysi had it right, it was a pidgin feature, nothing to do with the desktop, which is what I'd assumed. Found it in prefs lol | 15:49 |
| drvladimirtzu | Turns out notifyd isn't even installed anyway | 15:49 |
| Sysi | xfce4-notifyd since 10.10 or so | 15:50 |
| drvladimirtzu | I was getting frustrated cuz I couldn't find an option in the xfce prefs. XD | 15:50 |
| holstein | Sysi: cool... thanks for the heads up | 15:50 |
| drvladimirtzu | Anyone know a conveniant way to get window tabbing like on fluxbox with xfce? | 15:52 |
| ball | What is window tabbing? | 15:52 |
| drvladimirtzu | In fluxbox, if you middle click on a windows toolbar and drag it onto another window, they join, and you can switch back adn forth by tabs. Nice feature. | 15:53 |
| ball | Interesting. I had never heard of that. | 15:53 |
| drvladimirtzu | I like it a lot. I'd like to be able to use it on xfce. Fluxbox is a huge pain to use. Gotta set up your wallpaper by config file. XD | 15:54 |
| Sysi | you could use fluxbox with xfce, though I've heard it may cause little problems with wallpaper | 15:54 |
| Sysi | problems like you can actually drag wallpaper around | 15:55 |
| holstein | lol | 15:55 |
| drvladimirtzu | Ha! | 15:55 |
| drvladimirtzu | I dunno if that'd agrivate me or amuse me greatly. | 15:55 |
| GridCube | amuse first | 15:55 |
| GridCube | agrivate later | 15:55 |
| drvladimirtzu | XD Sounds about right. | 15:55 |
| Sysi | install fluxbox and/or run fluxbox --replace | 15:55 |
| drvladimirtzu | I have it installed to play around with. What does the --replace do? | 15:56 |
| Sysi | kills WM you're running now | 15:56 |
| panthar | holstein: I figured out the xfce/compiz thing. I had compiz installed but not Ubuntu's "compiz" metapackage which includes metacity as a fallback decorator. | 15:57 |
| holstein | panthar: AH... makes sense | 15:57 |
| drvladimirtzu | After running that, at the login will I have seperate xfce options for standard xfce vs xfce with flux for the wm? | 15:57 |
| holstein | you are from + panthar ? | 15:57 |
| panthar | Aye. | 15:57 |
| Sysi | panthar: I think it's actually gtk-window-decorator that uses metacity themes | 15:57 |
| Sysi | drvladimirtzu: no, save session on logout | 15:58 |
| panthar | Sysi: the compiz-window-decorator does a fallback to metacity. | 15:58 |
| drvladimirtzu | Sysi Aye. Good stuff. I'll give it a shot. | 15:58 |
| ball | Upgrade to twm? | 15:59 |
| Sysi | panthar: okay, I haven't even tried compiz in years but I know some stuff | 15:59 |
| panthar | Oh interesting - dug deeper and you are correct. It installed metacity-core and libmetacity but not /usr/bin/metacity. | 16:01 |
| panthar | I love the tangled webs of .debs! :) | 16:01 |
| panthar | But gtk-window-manager was installed by the meta "compiz" which makes sense depending on libmetacity to use those themes. | 16:01 |
| panthar | Man, I just wanted to try this for kicks, but it's sure a lot more twisted than running xfwm4 :) | 16:02 |
| holstein | yeah, its funky | 16:02 |
| holstein | i installed and planned on tweaking/breaking and reinstalling | 16:03 |
| holstein | i landed with something useable | 16:03 |
| holstein | im trying *not* to try and emulate gnome2, but get something like what i used there while getting used to XFCE too | 16:03 |
| panthar | Same here - XFCE and Gnome2 both just let me move things around like I wanted. | 16:04 |
| panthar | But I'm much happier back on XFCE - I like my extra RAM back :) | 16:05 |
| holstein | yeah, lighter, and there were always a couple things i wanted to tweak about gnome2 that i couldnt | 16:05 |
| holstein | i got a couple little issues here and there with XFCE | 16:05 |
| holstein | no deal breakers so far | 16:05 |
| ball | holstein: Do they relate to having two monitors? | 16:06 |
| holstein | ball: not yet... thats my production machine that im holding off on til i transition and get comfortable | 16:06 |
| panthar | That was the biggest problem to get mine set up actually. | 16:06 |
| holstein | that'll run 10.04 for quite a while longer | 16:07 |
| panthar | Mostly because you have do do everything through randr *and* the annoying ATI control center. | 16:07 |
| panthar | Once I got that sequence of configuration correct though, it's running solidly now on dual monitors. | 16:08 |
| holstein | panthar: and now you want to break it with compiz ;) | 16:08 |
| GridCube | thats more an ATI fault than xubuntu | 16:08 |
| panthar | GridCube: Agreed | 16:09 |
| panthar | holstein: Of course! If it has screws I need to take it apart :) | 16:10 |
| Sysi | I never really understood what was so great in old gnome, panel setup was just weird, menus messy and windowmanager quite terrible | 16:10 |
| holstein | :) | 16:10 |
| holstein | Sysi: those are my issues exactly | 16:10 |
| holstein | that panel hiding is just horrible | 16:10 |
| holstein | compiz integration really slicked it up though | 16:10 |
| Sysi | unity is a bit messy but not really bad, gnome3 is nice and simple but quite limited in options | 16:11 |
| holstein | but yeah, on its own... not so nice | 16:11 |
| Sysi | setting up compiz just sucks | 16:11 |
| guest-P9I2GC | hello guys, i have a problem of tablet nature. basicly, i dont have an onscreen kb option in accesibility menu on login, any idea on how to fix it? | 16:11 |
| panthar | Hrm well compiz is working... feels sluggish though compared to stock setup. | 16:12 |
| holstein | something like light-dm maybe?... im interested in what Sysi suggests... | 16:12 |
| Sysi | lightdm is the login manager, I don't (yet) know too much about setting it up | 16:12 |
| madnick | Well | 16:13 |
| Sysi | fast solution could be to install GDM | 16:13 |
| madnick | You can enable extras | 16:13 |
| holstein | yeah, im not sure about onscreen KB's in light-dm... ive only seen it a few times in action | 16:13 |
| GridCube | oh guest-P9I2GC D: thats bad | 16:14 |
| madnick | guest-P9I2GC: do you have OnBoard when you arrive at the desktop? | 16:14 |
| guest-P9I2GC | i had it on ubuntu with gnome, so dunno why its not o xubu | 16:14 |
| guest-P9I2GC | yea, i logged in as guest :P | 16:14 |
| guest-P9I2GC | im on my tablet | 16:14 |
| holstein | guest-P9I2GC: different login managers is the 'why' | 16:14 |
| madnick | What happens if you go to Settings->Session and start up, and enable Gnome services? | 16:14 |
| Sysi | ubuntu should be using lightdm too | 16:14 |
| madnick | and relog | 16:15 |
| GridCube | guest-P9I2GC: you want to be able to log in or use an autologing? | 16:15 |
| Sysi | madnick: that's just for stuff after login | 16:15 |
| holstein | using gdm is an easy option, and should do no harm | 16:15 |
| Sysi | 'apt-get --no-install-recommends install gdm' shouldn't install entire gnome | 16:16 |
| guest-P9I2GC | ok ill try to play with gnome services and if it wont work ill install gdm :) thanks all ;) | 16:20 |
| guest-P9I2GC | cya :) | 16:20 |
| === `mOOse` is now known as m00se | ||
| olbi | hello | 17:13 |
| olbi | why app ristretto is so out of date?:P | 17:13 |
| olbi | 0.0.93 while actually is 0.2.2 ?? | 17:13 |
| knome | olbi, because the development of ristretto happened very late during the oneiric cycle and we didn't have time to push it | 17:19 |
| olbi | I think we should change this image viewer for better app cause this is so poor :P | 17:19 |
| knome | feel free to write an application comparison blueprint and present it to the development team with arguments on why to change to something else and it will be discussed | 17:21 |
| olbi | :) | 17:21 |
| knome | i mean, everything is really open for discussion | 17:22 |
| olbi | I have to look at apps, which don't have too much dependicies and are light for system :D | 17:22 |
| knome | though i think we will keep ristretto as the default for 12.04, judging by the discussions i've had with the ristretto developer | 17:22 |
| knome | nothing is decided yet though | 17:23 |
| TheSheep | olbi: I recommend 'comix' for image viewer | 17:26 |
| olbi | but it will be line 0.2.x? | 17:26 |
| olbi | how to install gtk+-2.0 >= 2.20.0... not found ??:P | 17:28 |
| olbi | in repo i can't find it | 17:28 |
| knome | olbi, of course the ristretto version will be more recent in 12.04 | 17:29 |
| olbi | i want now compile new version but have problem with gtk+ | 17:29 |
| knome | i can't suggest compiling a newer version if you can't get around stuff before actually compiling | 17:30 |
| Sysi | olbi: newest xubuntu version? | 17:31 |
| olbi | yep | 17:32 |
| olbi | 12.04 | 17:32 |
| olbi | tfu, 11.10 :P | 17:32 |
| olbi | maybe gpicview from lxde is much better :D | 18:14 |
| olbi | tested it 10 min and I like it :) | 18:14 |
| xubuntu394 | I m Brazilian get some info of Xunbutu | 18:40 |
| TheSheep | just ask | 18:42 |
| xubuntu394 | I m need run Office(windows) in Xubuntu. Xunbutu need emulator = Wine? | 18:45 |
| S_SubZero | yup | 18:46 |
| === Evixion` is now known as Evixion | ||
| TheSheep | not sure if microsoft office runs on wine though | 18:47 |
| TheSheep | I mean, not sure which versions do | 18:47 |
| S_SubZero | what part of Office do you need? Outlook? | 18:48 |
| xubuntu394 | im use microsoft office for example (sorry my poor enghish) kkkk | 18:49 |
| S_SubZero | Use LibreOffice! (hard to say with a straight face) | 18:50 |
| xubuntu394 | see abyword and gnumeric | 18:50 |
| xubuntu394 | libre is compatible of docs os micro.. office? | 18:51 |
| S_SubZero | they say it is but who knows | 18:52 |
| S_SubZero | I'm sure as the document complexity goes up, LibreOffice successfully reproducing it goes down | 18:52 |
| olbi | xubuntu394: MS isnt full compatible, it only support some part of doc, docs and others formats | 18:53 |
| xubuntu394 | ok thanks for help im find more infos in time for use this system nice :) | 18:55 |
| sandra_ | Hello my fellow Xubuntu inmates :-) | 19:16 |
| sandra_ | I hope you all are doing well *S* | 19:16 |
| sandra_ | I would like to ask if there is a good article that provides a step by step process that explains how to install nvidia 290.3 into Ubuntu 11.10 Thanks so much | 19:17 |
| sandra_ | I say Ubuntu 11.10 because Xubuntu is based on Ubuntu. | 19:17 |
| ElderDryas | I come up before the parole board next week...we'll see how well I'm doing then. | 19:17 |
| sandra_ | ElderDryas, Well you keep us informed on your status | 19:18 |
| ElderDryas | If I don't show up here...it went well :) | 19:18 |
| sandra_ | ElderDryas, Any chance you might have answer to my question ? lol | 19:19 |
| w30 | ElderDryas, be sure to keep your Morgue community service........ | 19:19 |
| w30 | ElderDryas, appointment | 19:19 |
| olbi | sandra_: it is very easy :) | 19:19 |
| sandra_ | olbi, I'm all years :-) | 19:20 |
| sandra_ | oops ears | 19:20 |
| ElderDryas | w30: oh, maybe Lindsey will like me ? | 19:20 |
| sandra_ | lol | 19:20 |
| sandra_ | olbi, as I mentioned it's nvidia 290.03 | 19:21 |
| sandra_ | olbi, So tell me just how easy it is :-) I'm all ears and eyes :-) | 19:21 |
| olbi | sandra_: w8, w8 stable are 280, so fot what you need 290.3? | 19:22 |
| w30 | ElderDryas, *harumph* *cough* *cough* | 19:22 |
| olbi | sandra_: what graphics do you have? | 19:22 |
| ElderDryas | olbi: What for? Obviously you don't know sandra_ like we do :) | 19:23 |
| sandra_ | olbi, I need it because it takes care of a few bugs the current stable *cough* nvidia has. | 19:24 |
| sandra_ | Is there a good article a step by step how too in order to do this ? | 19:25 |
| olbi | sandra_: you need to download blobs from nvidia sites, go to dir where you do it | 19:25 |
| olbi | sandra_: that in terminal run this | 19:25 |
| sandra_ | olbi, taking notes here | 19:26 |
| olbi | sandra_: but befire install, you must go to runlevel 3 | 19:26 |
| olbi | ElderDryas: how you know sandra_ ?:P | 19:27 |
| sandra_ | olbi, yes I just need a good set of step by step how too's and I'm sure I can do it. | 19:27 |
| olbi | ElderDryas: I mean what she likes to do :] | 19:27 |
| olbi | sandra_: so I tell you it | 19:27 |
| w30 | I have a graphics problem in compiz; my screen won't repaint, redraw when switching back with ctrl alt F7. I have to select the whole screen with mouse to get the redraw. | 19:27 |
| olbi | sandra_: on nvidia site is nice manual | 19:28 |
| sandra_ | olbi, what's the addy to that link ? | 19:28 |
| olbi | sandra_: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/1.0-8178/README/index.html | 19:29 |
| sandra_ | thank you | 19:30 |
| w30 | What's the right video driver for a GForce 7600 GTO/GT ? | 19:30 |
| olbi | 280 | 19:30 |
| olbi | w30: 280.* | 19:30 |
| olbi | I have now GF 6600GT and have 280.x | 19:31 |
| w30 | olbi, I mean from ubuntu repos? I don't have the Nvidia nombers in additional drivers | 19:33 |
| w30 | nombers/numbers | 19:33 |
| w30 | agemoi100 | 19:36 |
| w30 | ls/part | 19:51 |
| === Guest70091 is now known as epzil0n | ||
| === epzil0n is now known as Guest69301 | ||
| godmod | how do i get hibernation working? | 21:02 |
| TheSheep | what doesn't work? | 21:03 |
| godmod | it says that i don't have enough swap when i have enough | 21:04 |
| TheSheep | how much ram and how much swap do you have? | 21:04 |
| Sysi | (hibernation is sloow, shut down or use suspend?) | 21:05 |
| godmod | i have a decent ssd w/ 8gb of ram, & about the same swap | 21:06 |
| babble | hm. Is anyone having trouble connecting to other irc networks (other than freenode) in xchat since upgrading to 11.10? | 21:06 |
| TheSheep | godmod: "about"? | 21:07 |
| TheSheep | godmod: you need enough free swap space to fit all your ram in it | 21:07 |
| godmod | it says lvm, what does taht mean? | 21:08 |
| TheSheep | !lvm | 21:08 |
| ubottu | Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto | 21:08 |
| TheSheep | godmod: lvm is a way to get all your disk into a single pool, and then divide that pool into virtual disks any way you need | 21:10 |
| godmod | ok 8476mbyte swap and 8088mbyte | 21:11 |
| godmod | *ram | 21:11 |
| muzzy_ | does anybony know if there's something wrong with gthumb??? I cannot import photos from my camera (canon g5)... but it is detected when i do a 'gphoto2 --auto-detect' or i can download photos with a 'gphoto2 --get-all-files' | 21:22 |
| muzzy_ | i'm using ubuntu 11.10 (fresh installed) | 21:24 |
| muzzy_ | xubuntu* | 21:24 |
| gr8m8 | seems my upgrade has gone ok cheers for that :) | 21:55 |
| muzzy_ | does anybony know if there's something wrong with gthumb in xubuntu 11.10??? I cannot import photos from my camera (canon g5)... but it is detected when i do a 'gphoto2 --auto-detect' and i can download photos with a 'gphoto2 --get-all-files' | 22:48 |
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