[00:06] how can I figure out what device my wireless is? It's not under /dev/wlan0 as expected. [00:16] DrCherry, can you show me the output of the iwconfig command in your terminal please? [00:16] it says wlan0 [00:16] can you connect through it? [00:16] i can dump the whole thing to a pastebin [00:17] no, that's fine. If it says it's wlan0, that's good. [00:17] wait, no I can't easily, its this little acer aspire [00:17] so where do I find it in /dev ? [00:17] It's one of those Atheros cips but not under /dev/Ath0 [00:18] I'm stumped by this one but not super familiar with ubuntu [00:18] I'm just having a look now. [00:19] I don't run ubuntu either, I run kubuntu, but the base layout of directories is the same, so it should be somewhere I can find quite quickly if it's listed [00:19] I'm trying to run wavemon and reflexively put in /dev/wlan0 and was surprised [00:20] it's internal wifi, so I'm guessing it probably doesn't go through /dev/ [00:21] ohhhhh [00:21] could you do this for me please: lspci | grep net [00:21] so how to refer to it on the command line [00:22] DrCherry, depends on what you want to do with it through the command line [00:22] it's not on the net but it's 3:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. [00:23] AR242x AR542x Wireless ... PCI-Express [00:23] The best things I'd suggest is that you read the help of iwconfig and iwlist - they do most of the stuff you want with wifi via the cli [00:24] I'll do that thanks ... gotta run, thx for your time. [00:25] you can scan for APs with iwlist wlan0 scanning for example, or set a fixed connection speed with iwconfig wlan0 rate 54M fixed if you want. [00:25] just type iwconfig - - help and iwlist - - help and those should give you most of the info you need [01:38] hey all: I used relinux (http://relinux.sourceforge.net/) to make a live image of my current system, and I *think* it enabled zramswap (I had zram enabled as swap on rebooting to my desktop) - I couldn't find anyplace in /etc/init.d to disable it; where should I be looking? [02:17] babble: have a look in /etc/fstab maybe [02:18] moetunes: yeah, I thought about that, but the only entries in fstab are UUIDs for my physical swap and my root filesystem. === babble_ is now known as babble [03:39] how do I map a network drive (smb) in Xubuntu? [03:40] S_SubZero: Install gvfs-backends and open gigolo [03:42] ah there we go, was wondering how to get that [03:48] humph, can't connect.. i'll fiddle with it later, at least the option is there now [04:48] kupfer is a nice light alternative to gnome-do that i just tried [04:49] !info kupfer [04:49] kupfer (source: kupfer): fast and lightweight desktop summoner/launcher. In component universe, is optional. Version 0+v206-1 (oneiric), package size 644 kB, installed size 3164 kB [04:50] i was thinking it was KDE, and would pull a bunch of things in, but it is very lean [04:50] not KDE at all :) [04:59] oh, in Xfce, Appfinder is all I really need [06:20] no one ever says anything in here i swear [06:27] ok.. uh.. so how do I get the desktop icons to not be transparent [06:29] have a look in window manager tweaks [06:40] i don't see anything for it, not a big deal just on my wallpaper they are kinda ghosty [06:41] I thought in the compositor settings [06:45] anyone here [07:02] is there a different network connection manager in xubuntu than that of ubuntu or mint? also i as because i never had any trouble with my pass word to my net connection till now,...the only difference is the os. [07:03] hmm rather - it was not accepting my password but took the string of numbers that my password generated. [07:04] O/ well_laid_lawn . hows it going? [07:07] zus: always good :) [07:07] good :) [07:15] is there a different network connection manager in xubuntu than that of ubuntu or mint? also i as because i never had any trouble with my pass word to my net connection till now,...the only difference is the os. [07:15] hmm rather - it was not accepting my password but took the string of numbers that my password generated. [07:17] I dunno about that [07:17] it was a bit strange, i have never needed the "random number/letter string" [07:18] I don't know what that is... [07:18] when i first set up the router and put in a password it gave me a long ridiculous number/letter string [07:19] my router just went with the password I set [07:20] glad i wrote it down, cos my paswrd worked till i used xubuntu. i had to use that, my password wouldnt even light up the connect button. out of all the distros ive tried, xubuntu was the only one [07:20] no biggie im on that counts but i was just curious [07:21] Hi guys, Sorry I am trying to learn how to use pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/720436/ [07:21] that's 1 test that's gone well [07:22] mikodo, try imagebin for pic for the times youll need a screenshot :) [07:22] well_laid-lawn, Thanks. I guess I did it :^) [07:22] ZUS, OK! [07:23] mikodo, works the same was just with pics, :) [07:24] Thanks guys! [07:25] :) [07:27] !tab | mikodo [07:27] mikodo: You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [07:27] like wel gives well_laid_lawn [07:29] well_laid_lawn, well I'll be darned; thanks [07:29] cheers :) [07:30] hi there [07:31] does anyone know how to restore the ability to go into standby in 11.10? [07:32] it's not working since i made die upgrade… [07:32] would this work as well for thunar? for installing dropbox and not getting alot of dependencies and forcing it to use thunar? http://wiki.bodhilinux.com/doku.php?id=dropbox:no_install_no_nautilus ? [07:35] i know bodhi is ubuntu based and have friend who had this work, worked for me on my desktop. [07:37] ubuntulog, "as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line" Works good, for programs, probably faster than than app finder thing in Unity [07:38] it also seems that it still not supports btrfs, it's doing an fs check (i guess) everytime i boot it… [07:41] the problem exists since i installed 11.4 it on my eee-pc t101mt… [07:42] btrfs isn't production ready afaik [07:44] well_laid_lawn: good to know… i wanted to reinstall the whole thing anyway, since i realized that my cpu supports amd64… [07:45] ;) [07:46] what fs do you suggest? is ext4 ready? [07:46] has been for ages [07:47] how can i change thunar to display a field i can type in over the square button path thingy? [07:47] I think ext4 is safest for everyday use [07:48] zus: with thunar open just start typing and look at bottom left [07:48] oops bottom right [07:49] thanks [07:54] well_laid_lawn: thanks again. yopu know how likely is it that standy works after a reinstall? [07:55] sofias: I never bother with standby so I couldn't say [07:55] k [10:26] bonjour, [10:27] peut on parler français ici ? [10:27] !fr | packrit [10:27] packrit: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. [10:28] merci. === michael is now known as antismap [11:16] how can i change the keyboard layout systemwide to disable dead keys? [11:17] Hi [11:17] if you have dead keys you either have a funny keyboard or yhe wrong keymap [11:18] s/yh/th/ [11:20] Hello all [11:25] well_laid_lawn: well, how do i change systems keymap? I could try xfces settings, but i'd prefer global setting for x [11:26] pimperle: it'll depend on the different ways you start X [11:27] oh, i hoped xubuntu used the same way on every installation. however i know, that i have an xorg.conf file which has been created by the binary nvidia driver [11:29] xubuntu uses the xfce4 setting for the keyboard - why does a different installation matter? [11:30] also the mute-button on the keyboard doesn't unmute the sound if pressed again (starting from oneiric). could this be related to the map changing? [11:30] in natty mute worked and dead keys were disabled [11:30] the key probably isn't mapped to toggle just mute [11:31] Does anyone know why the CPU fan always runs in Xubuntu? [11:31] it toggles something, as the volume indicator popup shows the muted / unmuted icon [11:32] however the volume just doesn't get unmuted, the volume applet in the right upper corner (little speaker symbol) stays muted. [11:32] so the problem is not between the keyboard and the volume system === scotty is now known as StormStrikes [11:35] Does anyone know why the CPU fan always runs in Xubuntu? [11:35] Im running 11.10 on a Dell XPS 17 L702x and the fan never shuts off. [11:36] pimperle: check in the keyboard settings what the key is mapped to [11:36] StormStrikes: is it the cpu fan or the one on the graphics? [11:37] well_laid_lawn: there's no mapping in the xfce keyboard shortcut settings for this key, however it looks like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/871093 to me [11:37] Launchpad bug 871093 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Notify-OSD and sound-indicator contradict each other after unmute" [Undecided,New] [11:37] could be [11:37] hard to see from here ;) [11:38] well_laid_lawn: When I pulled the thing apart to make sure there was enough thermal paste, there is only one fan [11:38] k [11:38] !sensors [11:38] To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions. [11:38] So Im not sure which of the pieces is keeping it on [11:38] StormStrikes: it might be a driver issue [11:39] but I wouldn't think so - what's the hardware? [11:39] i5 CPU, Nvidia 550M, GM45 integrated graphics I believe [11:40] what's that nvidia bit? [11:40] if you have integrated graphics? [11:41] lspci | grep -i vga [11:42] Its the Optimus system, which I dont have working, but it uses the integrated card for normal computing and switches to the nvidia for 3d and such [11:43] afaik you need bumblebee or the nvidia disabled in the bios [11:43] !info bumblebee [11:43] Package bumblebee does not exist in oneiric [11:43] o [11:43] so try with the nvidia disabled if you don't use it [11:44] I cannot disable in in bios unfortunately. And Ive seen bumblebee but there is different info as to whether to use bumble bee or ironhide [11:44] k I know nothing about it [11:44] I have nvidia disabled in the sence that I have no drivers, proprietary or otherwise on the system. [11:44] just thinking the graphics might be the reason for the fan [11:44] Me either unfortunately...its the first laptop that I have bought with higher end hardware and I cant get it working, LOL [11:45] Thats been my leaning too, but it kills battery life and if I can turn it off I would be on the road to being a happy camper [11:47] you've checked in top that there's nothing working the cpu hard? [11:47] correct [11:47] k [11:48] right now, its running about 4% of the CPU and fan is going strong [11:48] maybe using cpufreq will do something [11:48] !info cpufreq [11:48] Package cpufreq does not exist in oneiric [11:48] !find cpufreq [11:48] Found: awn-applet-cpufreq, cpufreqd, cpufrequtils, libcpufreq-dev, libcpufreq0 [11:48] !info cpufreqd [11:48] cpufreqd (source: cpufreqd): fully configurable daemon for dynamic frequency and voltage scaling. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.4.2-1 (oneiric), package size 78 kB, installed size 380 kB [11:48] dropping in to say thank you to the xubuntu team .. xfce /xubuntu saved the day after gnome 3 / unity shat all over my ati amd video card [11:51] I just checked the sensors and the cores are running 48 - 50c [11:52] so it's running flat out 'cause of the temp [11:52] not* [11:52] right, they arent high at all... [12:03] Let me ask about another couple issues. First, there is no bluetooth icon in the menu bar. There was one under Ubuntu 11.10. Am I missing something in xubuntu that I can add? [12:07] tried right clicking the panel and adding one? [12:08] There is nothing bluetooth related that can be added [12:08] o [12:09] StormStrikes: checked "Settings -> Bluetooth"? [12:09] That should give you an icon, then just add it to autostart [12:09] Failed to execute command "gnome-control-center bluetooth" [12:09] gnome-control-center? [12:10] right (No such file or directory) [12:10] Well, xubuntu does not use that [12:11] And I meant, under settings in the panel menu, not in the xfce settings [12:11] Oh, well theres the problem I suppose. What should I have installed. [12:11] Yeah, thats where I went Menu > Settings > Bluetooth [12:12] Still no icon? [12:12] oh [12:12] Yeah, when I try to launch it, I get the above mentioned error [12:12] Do you have Xubuntu, or did you install xubuntu-desktop? [12:13] I have Xubuntu, did a fresh install [12:13] 11.10 [12:13] Let me check [12:13] what it says for me [12:13] Thank you so much... [12:14] StormStrikes: what if you run "blueman-applet" [12:14] in a terminal [12:14] in terminal? [12:15] It says there is already an instance running [12:15] O_o [12:15] LOL [12:16] Is this a developer install or the release? [12:16] release [12:16] what if you kill blueman-applet and rerun it? :P [12:16] In the session and start up it shows bluetooth manager set to start at boot [12:16] lemme try that [12:18] maybe dmesg has something about it [12:18] do that by running 'sudo blueman-applet stop' right? [12:18] I would just run "killall blueman-applet" [12:18] done [12:21] What would I be looking for in dmesg about bluetooth, anything specific? [12:23] I ran it in Virtualbox, and no applet there, but I have it on my install [12:23] Excatly the same problem you described when i run in virtualbox [12:23] hmmm [12:23] Im not running it virtually just in case your scratching your head, LOL [12:24] Im not terminal expert, I try to use it every chance I get, but to restart the applet I would just run sudo blueman-applet start? [12:24] Well, at this point im just guessing what could cause this, im wondering what would happen if one does not acctually have bluetooth/bluetooth drivers [12:24] And uses the applet [12:25] I have bluetooth, certain of that and it seemingly worked in ubuntu in that I had the icon, could turn it on and off I just never connected anything with it [12:29] been peaking at logs etc, i find no releveant information [12:31] maybe have a look at lshw or gtk-lshw [12:35] my blueman does not start due to not having an adapter it seems [12:57] any luck making preffered applications stick? such as chromium-browser for the web? [13:03] holstein: sure, just copy the defaults file from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/applications and edit it [13:04] * holstein looking TheSheep [13:04] thanks...i was confused by the GUI one [13:05] the problem is that there are several sources of information for default apps [13:05] and different applications use different ones as authoritative [13:05] defaults.list? [13:05] yeah [13:12] so... this seem right? changing x-scheme-handler/https=firefox.desktop to x-scheme-handler/http=/usr/bin/chromium-browser ?? [13:16] hi all :) [13:16] THX for xubuntu-desktop otherwise new ubuntu would be useless for most of my users :)! [13:17] holstein: you need to change both http and https [13:17] holstein: and you need to point them to the desktop file [13:18] OK... so, not /usr/share then [13:18] * holstein still looking... [13:18] holstein: they are all in the /usr/share/applications [13:24] eh... still getting a pop-up [13:24] whatever... i'll chew on this issue as i go [13:31] this is when i reboot, i get the default browser pop-up [13:31] by the way... [13:39] nah... i cant seem to sort it out from working with that file [13:40] i tried the full path the *.desktop [13:41] don;t use full path, just the file name [13:41] yup [13:41] thats what i did before using the full path [13:42] using the full path is a bad idea though... the pop-up about the default browser has no options in it, and it hangs til i kill the browser [13:42] O.o [13:42] anyways, now im back to just rm-ing that file, and answering once each reboot i suppose [13:43] you can try the settings editor [13:45] * holstein looking [13:46] I have a problem with xubuntu 11.10 [13:47] to browse a phone via bluetooth, blueman want to open nautilus, but it is not installed (and it shouldn't) [13:48] hmmm, i havent had any reasong to use blueman EagleScreen , but i used nautilus before [13:48] i think it was with the -nodestkop option... is using nautilus out of the question? [13:48] blueman is the default tool i have installed [13:50] EagleScreen: check out http://blueman-project.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=80 [13:50] by nickums » 24 Apr 2009, 15:26 [13:51] 5th one down or so... [13:54] hi [13:54] he told me thanks for installing, but de bar is not ful [13:54] so it seems he is still busy [13:56] xubuntu984: ? [13:57] you mean EagleScreen ? [13:58] I guess, new to xubuntu [13:58] holstein: I see the workaround suggested in that forum [13:58] EagleScreen: you see it? or you tried it? [13:58] not by the moment [13:59] i am now at work with Windows XP [13:59] i will try it later [13:59] EagleScreen: :) [13:59] I just installed xubuntu, or so I thought [13:59] but i did expect not to have to do that kind of workarunds in default Xubuntu installation [13:59] xubuntu984: i thought you were joinging and speaking for EagleScreen due to an internet issue [14:00] EagleScreen: ? [14:00] AFAIK, blueman is not in xubuntu by default [14:00] and it (blueman) supports a different filemanager by default than what comes with xubuntu [14:00] so, you have options [14:00] install nautilu [14:00] s [14:01] But any idea he is just still installing, don;t see any gui as well atm [14:01] how not? blueman is isntalled by default in my xubuntu [14:01] change the default filemanager setting (assuming blueman functions with this setting edited) [14:01] EagleScreen: maybe it is... thats why i said AFAIK [14:02] in that case, i would file a bug [14:02] and include this workaround if it works [14:02] EagleScreen: could be that just not enough folks use it to have caught the issue [14:03] i know, i dont have much bluetooth hardware, and i just connect the phone wifi or use dropbox or whatever [14:04] EagleScreen: yeah... heres one [14:04] https://bugs.launchpad.net/blueman/+bug/229139 [14:04] Launchpad bug 229139 in Blueman "Nautilus required as Window Manager" [High,Fix released] [14:04] EagleScreen: you can add yourself there and keep up to date as that fix is released [14:05] according that bug it is fix released... [14:05] xubuntu578: not sure im following you.. but i usually take time with the live CD and make that get to a desktop.. a GUI [14:05] but i am sufferinr of it [14:06] EagleScreen: right, so you can keep up with it... go in there and say 'i still have it'... see who release the fix and ping them if you can [14:06] so I just have to wait for a few hours or something? [14:06] ok [14:07] xubuntu578: depends on what you are waiting on... i would actively take the live ISO and get to the desktop first [14:07] using whatever methods needed... 'nomodeset' or whatever other safe-desktop modes might be needed [14:07] then, i would run lspci and poke around a bit.. see how the sound works.. multimedia keys.... whatever else [14:07] then, install :) [14:09] but he seems busy installing [14:09] xubuntu578: he? [14:09] the machine is installing? [14:09] im not sure what/how you are installing [14:09] yes, in think so [14:09] i try to install xunbuntu from cd [14:09] well, either its wrting to the hard drive, or its not [14:10] i would think on a modern system it shouldnt take long [14:10] yes, from then sound of it it is.. [14:10] wont hurt anything to wait a while [14:10] itś a 10-year old computer :P [14:11] could hurt something to force power off, though sometimes thats what you have to do [14:11] if its an old box, and it seems like its writing, i would wait [14:11] xubuntu578: you are using the alternate cd? [14:11] ok, thne I wait some more.. [14:11] if you do press alt-f4 and see the changelog :P [14:12] it will tell you exactly whats happening [14:13] alt F4 will only abort the instalation [14:14] is there some task manager I could check? [14:15] xubuntu578: oh. you are using the gui installer? [14:15] yes, I guess.. [14:15] then ctrl-alt-fn one of the f[1-6] should show you the installer logs [14:16] i never do gui installs, never for old computers either [14:16] alternate is far better and faster [14:17] agreed, though i still like to try and run the LIVE cd to see how the hardward support is going to be [14:30] Hi people. Something is wrong. I did install my xubuntu right now but it is booting with the wrong keyboard layout. So, I can't log in with my user... [14:31] How can I change the keyboard layout to boot with the correct one? [14:31] I can Only log in with guest (no password). [14:33] kalib: does this help? [14:33] http://igrudge.net/keyboard-layout-ubuntu-server-11-04/ [14:33] i think you need something you can drop in TTY i suppose, assuming you can loging somewhere [14:33] holstein, no.. [14:33] if now, you might need to edit the file from a live CD [14:33] if not* [14:34] because when I go to tty (CTRL + ALT + F2), I can't log in.. [14:34] kalib: so, using a live CD to edit the file is not an options? [14:34] because the layout is wrong.. [14:34] option* [14:34] when I try to type thge username and password.. [14:34] kalib: right [14:34] I got wrong chars. [14:34] kalib: can you use a live CD to edit the local file? [14:34] holstein, using a live cd would work. [14:34] which file should I edit? [14:35] kalib: the link i gave suggests editing /etc/default/keyboard [14:35] thanks [14:35] I'll try it right now. [14:35] i say, as long as you keep track of what you mess with, and know how to change them back you can experiment a bit [15:00] holstein, worked. thanks] [15:18] kalib: o/ [15:33] hi, please, how can I disable click on touchpad? [15:33] !synaptics [15:33] For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad [15:34] pertutatis: ^^^ [15:34] ok thanks [15:36] how about disabling the keyboard while typing? [15:36] disable the touchpad** [15:36] one more thing, how can I get icon picture preview on desktop? [15:38] holstein: Settings>Removable Drives and Media>Input Devices>Mice synclient TouchPadOff=1 [15:41] sorry ElderDryas, can you be more especific? [15:42] how? I gave you where and what to to put there? [15:42] ElderDryas: o/ [15:42] * holstein looking [15:43] sorry, I am a rookie here, so I have to type that on the mouse (enabled)? [15:43] Menu>Settings>.....put the command in the box and click the checkbox [15:44] yeah, im just new to XFCE... im not seeing it though [15:44] where it says "automatically run this program when USB mouse is connected"? [15:44] pertutatis: are you in 11.10? [15:44] yes 11.10 [15:44] OK [15:44] How can I get rid of those infuriating little black box notifications every time I get an im or something? [15:47] drvladimirtzu: http://www.linux-archive.org/xubuntu-user/404394-how-turn-off-desktop-popups.html suggests removing notify-osd and its not too old of a post [15:47] i have not tried it though, so i would do some research about it first [15:48] !notify-osd [15:48] !info notify-osd [15:48] notify-osd (source: notify-osd): daemon that displays passive pop-up notifications. In component main, is optional. Version 0.9.32-0ubuntu3 (oneiric), package size 117 kB, installed size 896 kB [15:49] drvladimirtzu: set your IM app to not send notifications [15:49] or your irc client if you ment that [15:49] holstein sysi: Thanks guys. Sysi had it right, it was a pidgin feature, nothing to do with the desktop, which is what I'd assumed. Found it in prefs lol [15:49] Turns out notifyd isn't even installed anyway [15:50] xfce4-notifyd since 10.10 or so [15:50] I was getting frustrated cuz I couldn't find an option in the xfce prefs. XD [15:50] Sysi: cool... thanks for the heads up [15:52] Anyone know a conveniant way to get window tabbing like on fluxbox with xfce? [15:52] What is window tabbing? [15:53] In fluxbox, if you middle click on a windows toolbar and drag it onto another window, they join, and you can switch back adn forth by tabs. Nice feature. [15:53] Interesting. I had never heard of that. [15:54] I like it a lot. I'd like to be able to use it on xfce. Fluxbox is a huge pain to use. Gotta set up your wallpaper by config file. XD [15:54] you could use fluxbox with xfce, though I've heard it may cause little problems with wallpaper [15:55] problems like you can actually drag wallpaper around [15:55] lol [15:55] Ha! [15:55] I dunno if that'd agrivate me or amuse me greatly. [15:55] amuse first [15:55] agrivate later [15:55] XD Sounds about right. [15:55] install fluxbox and/or run fluxbox --replace [15:56] I have it installed to play around with. What does the --replace do? [15:56] kills WM you're running now [15:57] holstein: I figured out the xfce/compiz thing. I had compiz installed but not Ubuntu's "compiz" metapackage which includes metacity as a fallback decorator. [15:57] panthar: AH... makes sense [15:57] After running that, at the login will I have seperate xfce options for standard xfce vs xfce with flux for the wm? [15:57] you are from + panthar ? [15:57] Aye. [15:57] panthar: I think it's actually gtk-window-decorator that uses metacity themes [15:58] drvladimirtzu: no, save session on logout [15:58] Sysi: the compiz-window-decorator does a fallback to metacity. [15:58] Sysi Aye. Good stuff. I'll give it a shot. [15:59] Upgrade to twm? [15:59] panthar: okay, I haven't even tried compiz in years but I know some stuff [16:01] Oh interesting - dug deeper and you are correct. It installed metacity-core and libmetacity but not /usr/bin/metacity. [16:01] I love the tangled webs of .debs! :) [16:01] But gtk-window-manager was installed by the meta "compiz" which makes sense depending on libmetacity to use those themes. [16:02]