[00:00] <infinity> nhg: "apt-get install openoffice.org-impress"?
[00:00] <infinity> nhg: What's the actual problem you're seeing?
[00:00] <nhg> tried that already
[00:01] <infinity> And?
[00:01] <nhg> "package 'openoffice.org-impress' has not installation candidate"
[00:01] <infinity> To be fair, you probably want libreoffice-impress anyway.
[00:02] <infinity> The OO.o packages are just empty transitional packages.
[00:03] <infinity> Oh, and you probably don't have universe enabled.  (The transitional packages got demoted)
[00:03] <infinity> libreoffice-impress is in main, though, just install that.
[00:03] <twb> nhg: "apt-get install libreoffice-impress"
[00:04]  * infinity notes that demoting the transitional packages was probably a mistake, since we'll need them for clean lucid->precise upgrades.
[00:04] <infinity> I might go fix that for precise right now. :P
[00:06] <nhg> ok thx...will try that when I'm back by my pandaboard
[03:36] <CodeWar> TF101 Ubuntu .. does that work with NVIDIA graphics drivers?
[03:47] <lilstevie> CodeWar: no
[03:48] <CodeWar> lilstevie, darn!!!
[03:58] <twb> CodeWar: if you run the 2.6.38 ChromeOS kernel, allegely it can
[03:58] <twb> Note that I mean the linux4tegra driver; the TF101 hardware has nothing to do with conventional nvidia (nv/nouveau) GPU driver
[03:59] <CodeWar> twb, understood
[04:11] <lilstevie> I love how you say allegedly twb, no, it can, 2.6.38 is the requirement
[04:11] <twb> I say allegedly because *I* haven't reproduced the success
[04:13] <lilstevie> lul
[04:17] <twb> As if your schooling is more important than my toy
[18:02] <vade> Hello. Does 11.10 have fully working to-opam4-addons package? whenever I try to decode an h.264 movie, I get what appears to be a board lock up, and have to do a system reset.
[18:03] <vade> (is running panda board). the #pandaboard folks mentioned 11.10 does not have a fully working ppa package, but I can indeed apt-get install ti-opap4-addons or whatever
[18:12] <infinity> Yeah, but the ti-omap-addons package in the oneiric PPA is empty currently.
[18:17] <vade> infinity: ah, sorry about that. Thanks for the info
[18:17] <vade> that explains why I could install it, but it had no effect
[18:17] <vade> I was confused ;)
[18:17] <vade> is there an announcement mailing list or website I could follow so I know when something like that becomes available?
[18:18] <infinity> Not that I know of.
[18:18] <gildean> installing the natty .deb won't work?
[18:18] <infinity> No, the natty stuff will die a horrible death on oneiric from what I understand.
[18:19] <gildean> ok
[18:19] <gildean> when was the last time someone tested?
[18:19] <ogra_> the package shouldnt be empty but pull in the sgx drivers
[18:19] <gildean> as in, if it was tested at the time of beta, things might have changed?
[18:19] <ogra_> if its actually empty, talk to TI
[18:19] <ogra_> they maintain the PPA
[18:21] <vade> forgive me as I am returning to linux after a long long break, so Im unsure how I can browse the contents of the ppa archive for 11.10
[18:21] <vade> but id be curious to check
[18:21] <ogra_> well, use a browser :)
[18:22] <ogra_> there should be aq link somewhere "package details" or some such
[18:22] <vade> ah, ok.
[18:22] <vade> thanks :)
[18:22]  * vade sheepish :P
[18:23] <infinity> And yeah, ubuntu-omap4-extras is still an empty package in oneiric.
[18:23] <infinity> They really should fix that.
[18:24] <ogra_> beyond that, if you are missing bits, TI owns the PPA, we dont do anything in it
[18:25] <ogra_> (so you should contact them about it ... i.e. in #pandaboard *g*)
[18:27] <vade> oh, man, runaround time :D
[18:27] <vade> haha
[18:27] <vade> thanks
[18:30] <ogra_> well, the guys caring for the PPA are in both channels anyway, so it doesnt matter
[18:30] <ogra_> but that people from #pandaboard send you here wont change that :)
[18:31] <vade> ha, fair enough :) are there any other tips besides installing the add ons to help get the board running as fast as possible? I read about disabling swap, and moving the root fs to a USB keychain since the MMC card reader is notoriously slow
[18:31] <ogra_> well, i doubt a "keychain" is much faster than SD, use a real disk rather
[18:32] <vade> fair enough.
[18:52] <nhg> has the startup tasks moved somewhere else in ubuntu 11.10 for ARM releases?
[18:52] <ogra_> no, why would they ?
[18:53] <nhg> hmm...wasnt able to find under system settings
[18:53] <nhg> 11.10 running on my panda
[18:55] <ogra_> should be there though
[18:55] <ogra_> you mean "startup applications" right ?
[18:56]  * ogra_ has it if he clicks on the little gear 
[18:56] <ogra_> directly in the menu
[18:59] <nhg> yes...I have a shell script I want run when ubuntu boots
[18:59]  * nhg looks for a "little gear"
[18:59] <vade_> top right, near your username in the top menu
[19:00] <vade_> 'startup applications'
[19:01] <nhg> ahh...they moved it there...ok...thanks!
[19:01] <vade_> wow I sort of helped someone , day 2 on the platform. ha
[19:01] <gildean> it looks like a flower more than a cog imo
[19:01] <gildean> or something
[19:01] <vade_> cog. totally a cog
[19:01] <vade_> :P
[19:02] <gildean> a poppy or something
[19:03] <nhg> vade_: day 1 for me...thanks
[20:02] <nhg> has starting vsftpd type services on 11.10 changed?  I couldnt get my ftp server to start yet.
[20:05]  * ogra_ has no idea 
[20:05] <ogra_> and i doubt its arm realted at all :)
[20:07] <nhg> http://pastebin.pandaboard.org/index.php/view/99999908
[20:07] <nhg> ok...I'll dig around
[20:19] <vade_> nhg: I got that issue with ssh as well, running services ssh start
[20:19] <vade_> er, that output
[20:19] <vade_> but, then ssh started
[20:19] <vade_> try running it via "services" perhaps?
[22:05] <vade_> So, I am running some OpenGL ES demos on my panda board, but I am getting an issue where libEGL.so is not being found. under Ubuntu 11.10 I know that not all of the multimedia support for panda board is active, but that graphics ought to be. However, I can only find the mesa gl drivers
[22:06] <vade_> oh. DO I need to copy the Lib EGL.so out of the ImgTek SDK into /lib ?
[22:06] <ogra_> yippie
[22:06] <ogra_> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2011-October/000154.html
[22:06]  * vade_ derps
[22:06] <ogra_> finally
[22:07] <ogra_> vade_, the TI PPA has everything you need, what are you fiddling with there ?
[22:08] <vade_> well, on 11.10, apparently it doesn't have multimedia :P but, I've installed the TI PPA "ubuntu-omap4-extras, and do not have a libEGL.so anywhere accessible, and the imgtek OpenGL demos all fail to launch
[22:08] <ogra_> did you install the -dev packages from the PPA ?
[22:08] <ogra_> there should be some
[22:09] <vade_> I followed the read me /wiki setup guide and installed the add-ons via the icon in the sidebar in Ubuntu 11.10 pre made image
[22:09] <ogra_> right, that does get you the support, but you want to develop ...
[22:09] <R_Nev> libegl1-sgx-omap4: /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1
[22:09] <ogra_> look around in the PPA
[22:10] <vade_> well, why do I need the SO to *run* binaries
[22:10] <vade_> R_Nev: ls: cannot access /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1: No such file or directory
[22:10] <vade_> I just don't get why the PPA / extras did not install this :|
[22:10] <ogra_> i dont think that path applies in oneiric, we added multiarch support
[22:11] <ogra_> should be /usr/lib/<toolchain triplet>/libEGL.so.1
[22:11] <vade_> I only have mesa libEGL.so.1
[22:11] <vade_> usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/mesa-egl/libEGL.so.1
[22:12] <vade_> (and no EGL2)
[22:12] <ogra_> well, talk to TI :)
[22:12]  * vade_ sighs
[22:12] <ogra_> we dont maintain whats in the PPA
[22:12] <vade_> ok
[22:12] <vade_> circles circles circles
[22:12] <vade_> :P
[22:12] <ogra_> or talk to rsalveti if you can catch him ...
[22:12] <ogra_> or robclark, though i dont think he was involved in the packaging for oneiric
[22:13] <rsalveti> I don't think the package is multiarch-enabled already
[22:14] <robclark> fwiw, I remember some debate about whether or not to have the .so symlinks..
[22:14] <robclark> I think it is debian package guidelines (or something like that) to not have the .so?
[22:14] <robclark> (I wasn't directly involved in that.. this is just what I vaguely remember overhearing..)
[22:14] <rsalveti> libegl1-sgx-omap4: /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1.7.9.0
[22:14] <ogra_> the .so should always be there
[22:14] <rsalveti> and /usr/lib/libEGL.so.1 as a link
[22:15] <ogra_> but be a symlink to the versioned .so
[22:15] <ogra_> right
[22:15] <vade_> weird. I do not have that.
[22:15] <rsalveti> the ".so" is only part of the -dev package
[22:15] <R_Nev> i remember manually editing the sources.list files to get the packages, but this was with a 11.10 daily build before the official version
[22:15] <vade_> oh.
[22:15] <vade_> so I *need* the dev package. thats odd.
[22:15] <vade_> (I'm my mind)
[22:15] <ogra_> rsalveti, thats what i meant above :)
[22:15] <ogra_> vade_, well, you dont need the .so to run stuff
[22:15] <ogra_> only to build it
[22:15] <vade_> Id imagine the so would be required by existing binaries and not just interesting to developers
[22:16] <vade_> oh. (sorry, Mac developer, I did not know that)
[22:16] <rsalveti> I believe you need it to run the img tests
[22:16] <rsalveti> as they are generally compiled against a .so lib
[22:16] <vade_> yea, I picked some stuff that required it.
[22:16] <rsalveti> I know, stupid, but they don't care about a valid soname
[22:16] <vade_> ok. I will find the dev packages and try again
[22:16] <vade_> thank you all for your help
[22:16] <R_Nev> a semi-related question I had, is libGLES_CM.so or libGLESv1_CM.so the official library name to link against?
[22:16] <ogra_> rsalveti, we should really default to install -dev as well then
[22:17] <vade_> ok, so, what is the "dev" package I need to install then ? :X  https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/omap-trunk (see nothing here)
[22:17] <rsalveti> ogra_: well, it's only the demo applications from the sgx sdk
[22:17] <rsalveti> ddk
[22:18] <rsalveti> vade_: use the stable ppa for 11.10
[22:18] <vade_> isn't that just apt-get install ubuntu-omap4-extras ?
[22:19] <vade_> sorry this link https://launchpad.net/~tiomap-dev/+archive/release?field.series_filter=oneiric
[22:20] <vade_> (had pasted the wrong one)
[22:20] <rsalveti> libegl1-sgx-omap4-dev
[22:21] <vade_> where did you see that ?
[22:24] <vade_> I guess my question is, how am I supposed to know I need to install that
[22:26] <robclark> I think 'apt-file search' should be able to tell you that (after you install it and it updates it's index)
[22:31] <vade_> wait, so I need to install it so I can search to see if I need to install it? :P
[22:32] <robclark> something like that ;-)
[22:32]  * robclark finds it quite useful when you aren't really sure which deb you need to install
[22:33] <ogra_> zyga, stop discussing with lkcl ! it wont get you anywhere
[22:33] <ogra_> (he might be brilliant, but in the end he's just a troll)
[22:34] <ogra_> (and far from being as good and entertaining as mru is :) )
[22:39] <vade_> rsalveti: is this installing some kernel modules too ?
[22:39] <vade_> (seems like this is installing a ton of stuff)
[22:40] <ogra_> it should run dkms to compile the modules on the fly
[22:41] <vade_> I guess (and this is a running theme tonight) that I am a bit confused why that needs kernel modules but, whatever :)
[22:48] <ogra_> it needs a kernel module like intel, nvidia or ati do
[22:48] <vade_> ha, well, now its complaining about libEGLv2
[23:01] <zyga> ogra_, I stopped already ;-)
[23:01] <zyga> ogra_, thanks for the tip :-)
[23:01] <zyga> ogra_, packing or already there?
[23:04] <vade_> ok, all I can say is my desktop is about a billion times faster after installing the libegl1-sgx-omap4-dev
[23:44] <vade_> nice
[23:44] <vade_> installing 	libgles2-sgx-omap4-dev and libegl1-sgx-omap4-dev now means I can lunch the imgtek SDK examples
[23:44] <vade_> whew
[23:44] <vade_> goddamn
[23:48] <vade_> this has made he panda board so much more usable, even with the 11.10 UI
[23:53] <vade_> clearly those two apt-get installs installed something that ubuntu-ompap4-extras did not wtt to something the main OS/windowserver wanted
[23:53] <vade_> because its so much smoother now.