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bjsnider | doko_, ping | 01:18 |
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Darxus | I have spamassassin building on launchpad automatically using the /debian/ info that I've included in upstream trunk. But I can't get it to build from the command line. "debuild -us -uc" is complaining about a lack of an .orig.tar.gz file. I've seen some mention of generating that .orig.tar.gz file, but not how. What am I missing? | 02:16 |
bjsnider | Darxus, tar xcf spamassassin_version.orig.tar.gz path/to/directory/with/code | 02:26 |
Darxus | I was just going to try that. There's no.. flag to some build command to do it? | 02:26 |
bjsnider | you also want to --exclude=debian what any git/svn | 02:27 |
Darxus | bjsnider: No I've actually synced the debian build directory with spamassassin's trunk. | 02:28 |
Darxus | Looks like it's working though, thanks. | 02:28 |
bjsnider | the debian directory shouldn't be in the orig tarball | 02:28 |
Darxus | It is. | 02:31 |
Darxus | Well. | 02:31 |
Darxus | Okay. | 02:31 |
bjsnider | that's what the debian.tar.gz, which gets created automatically, is for | 02:32 |
Darxus | Yeah I misunderstood what you were saying. | 02:32 |
Darxus | #bzr mentioned instead of manually running tar you can use the -sa option to debuild. Which isn't very documented. | 02:33 |
bjsnider | the whole point of the orig tarball is that it's the unmodified code, so if you put the packaging scripts in there, you can't call it orig anymore | 02:33 |
Darxus | Oh, no, I'm confused again. | 02:34 |
Darxus | Well, the original unmodified code actually has a copy of the packaging scripts. I synced it from the .deb package to upstream trunk. | 02:35 |
Darxus | To ease automated building on launchpad. | 02:36 |
Laibsch | SpamapS: I think you recently ran into problems with suspend, didn't you? | 02:38 |
bjsnider | Darxus, are those the scripts you're actually using? | 02:39 |
Darxus | bjsnider: Yes. | 02:41 |
StevenK | Darxus: It is documented. debuild's manual page says it will also take the same options that dpkg-buildpackage does. | 02:43 |
jbicha | Darxus: generally, it's better not to have the debian/ directory upstream; it gets complicated if Debian, Ubuntu, or another similar distro needs to adjust the packaging | 02:45 |
bjsnider | Darxus, in the changelog, what is the date of the most recent entry before your changes? | 02:45 |
jbicha | Darxus: see https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/SourceBuilds/Recipes to make building easy from two different bzr branches, one for upstream, one for debian/ | 02:46 |
Darxus | bjsnider: Not sure I understand what you're asking. Currently in trunk it's Sat, 14 May 2011 12:06:12 -0700, while I'm waiting for a commit of the change from v 3.3.2-2. | 02:52 |
bjsnider | so they haven't updated the build scripts in 5 months | 02:53 |
Darxus | jbicha: I think part of the reason I did this is because when I set it up, that couldn't handle importing debian packages that had two original tarballs, as the spamassassin one does since the rules were split out to a separate tarball. | 02:53 |
Darxus | bjsnider: Okay? Still curious where you're going with that. | 02:54 |
bjsnider | there might be newer debian scripts in debian itself | 02:54 |
bjsnider | what's the rules tarball called? | 02:55 |
Darxus | bjsnider: There is. I just filed a bug with a patch to apply the change. | 02:55 |
bjsnider | and if the ubuntu version of spamassassin has an ubuntu tag in it, eg. 0ubuntu1, there are ubuntu-specific changes you need to look at | 02:56 |
Darxus | It doesn't. It hasn't for a long time. | 02:57 |
bjsnider | cool | 02:57 |
ScottK | Nope. | 02:57 |
ScottK | spamassassin is slightly complicated as it has both the spamassassin tarball and their rules tarball packaged together. | 02:58 |
bjsnider | i imagine the rules would be updated quite often | 02:59 |
ScottK | Once you've installed it, they update online. | 03:00 |
bjsnider | cool | 03:00 |
ScottK | The new tarball doesn't need to be updated more often than a new release. | 03:00 |
Darxus | Where is the.. source for the ubuntu package of spamassassin on launchpad? | 03:00 |
bjsnider | apt-get source spamassassin will grab that | 03:00 |
ScottK | It's the same as Debian's anyway. | 03:01 |
Darxus | Yeah but I want to look at it on launchpad. I recall there being errors on importing it or something, related to the multiple original tarballs. | 03:01 |
ScottK | Perhaps the bzr branch for it, but that doesn't affect Ubuntu. | 03:01 |
Darxus | ScottK: Maybe? Where is that? | 03:02 |
ScottK | Source is at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/spamassassin | 03:03 |
ScottK | bzr branch is at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/precise/spamassassin/precise | 03:03 |
ScottK | The branch is way out of date. | 03:04 |
ScottK | But that's not relevant for the Ubuntu archive. | 03:04 |
Darxus | Yeah, I was wondering where the log is showing the import errors for lp:ubuntu/spamassassin. | 03:15 |
Darxus | I did get the package building locally from spamassassin trunk, documented at the bottom of http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/SyncDebianPackaging | 03:17 |
twb | In a lucid upstart job, is the least-worst way to set euid to do "exec su nobody -c frobozzd" ? | 03:26 |
jbicha | could we get ubuntu-dev-tools synced from sid as distro-info conflicts with the current precise version? | 03:54 |
doko_ | micahg, go ahead with the swig1.3 removal. looks I forgot to remove the source package | 06:30 |
micahg | doko_: yeah, I just realized, there's nothing to it (all build-deps except for 2 packages which I can fix/upload) | 06:31 |
dholbach | good morning | 07:04 |
tumbleweed | jbicha: sorry about that (ubuntu-dev-tools uninstallability) just did a new upload to sid (0.134) that can be synced as soon as lp picks it up | 08:37 |
bdrung | tumbleweed: can you SRU the sponsor-patch changes? | 11:07 |
Laney | will ubuntu-dev-tools ever stop being SRUed? | 11:17 |
SpamapS | when the sun rises in the west | 11:18 |
bdrung | Laney: when you write ten times more test cases that we currently have | 11:35 |
geser | Laney: short before precise release you can stop SRUing ubuntu-dev-tools (for oneiric) :) | 11:36 |
\sh | doko_, you have too many packages on MoM ;) | 11:55 |
tumbleweed | bdrung: I'll prepare an upload if you can find someone who'll verify it :) | 12:55 |
tumbleweed | Laney: it probably didn't help that we did a bunch of uploads during FF | 12:56 |
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bdrung | Laney, tumbleweed: without the upload during FF, we wouldn't have the support for syncs in sponsor-patch at all | 13:55 |
tumbleweed | also true. We approved those for a reason... | 13:56 |
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micahg | barry: still piloting? | 16:59 |
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barry | @pilot out | 17:13 |
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barry | micahg: oops | 17:13 |
micahg | barry: care to sponsor something anyways? | 17:13 |
barry | micahg: sure. i'm just about to head to lunch though. is it urgent? | 17:14 |
micahg | barry: after lunch would be fine :) | 17:14 |
barry | cool :) | 17:14 |
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micahg | cyphermox: would you mind if I merged xapian-core? there's depwait on it in precise | 17:32 |
micahg | cjwatson: will you get mad at me if I create and leave NBS until after UDS (if I promise to fix for alpha1)? | 17:37 |
micahg | cjwatson: ooh, nevermind, no NBS :) | 17:40 |
cjwatson | micahg: no, but I may try to clean it up before you if you do ;-) | 17:43 |
cjwatson | speaking of | 17:43 |
* cjwatson processes the big pile of NBS removals now that the installer has built everywhere | 17:43 | |
micahg | cjwatson: heh, I wouldn't mind help if I end up kicking off some transition :), but this case was a false alarm | 17:45 |
cjwatson | ok | 17:46 |
micahg | barry: when you get back, Bug #883112 | 18:38 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 883112 in python-cups (Ubuntu Precise) "python-cups no longer depends on libcups2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/883112 | 18:38 |
barry | micahg: thanks, i'm on it | 18:43 |
barry | micahg: fwiw, i actually can't reproduce the bug in an oneiric chroot, but i'm still okay with uploading the fix | 19:16 |
micahg | barry: you get a depends in an oneiric chroot? | 19:39 |
micahg | it's not in the release version of python-cups | 19:40 |
micahg | barry: you probably can't reproduce since libcups2 is installed by default | 19:43 |
* micahg guesses severity should be medium then... | 19:43 | |
barry | micahg: that could very well be! the depends did show up, so the patch looked good and i uploaded it | 19:43 |
micahg | barry: thanks! | 19:43 |
barry | np! | 19:44 |
micahg | gah, the ball was dropped on bug 881250... | 19:47 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 881250 in tzdata (Ubuntu Precise) "Clocks in Ukraine move back October 30, 2011" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/881250 | 19:47 |
micahg | tremolux: ^^ | 19:48 |
micahg | slangasek: ^^ | 19:58 |
slangasek | micahg: have there been uploads? | 20:02 |
slangasek | I've never done a tzdata update personally, I'm not sure if there's a script to follow? | 20:02 |
micahg | slangasek: I don't know if anyone's seen the bug besides pitti and myself (I guess that's bad) | 20:05 |
micahg | slangasek: no uploads from what I can tell, I have no idea how it works either, it's usually tremolux sponsored by pitti, unfortunately, I'm trying to get an update out by eod, could you drive this? | 20:06 |
micahg | slangasek: a different update :) | 20:07 |
slangasek | micahg: I'm not sure that I'm going to be able to get to it | 20:09 |
slangasek | barry: ^^ could you have a look at this bug? tzdata apparently needs updates for all supported releases today, because another clueless national government has changed their mind about clocks on short notice | 20:09 |
infinity | What a surprise. | 20:10 |
nigelb | WIN. | 20:10 |
nigelb | Which government? | 20:10 |
infinity | Ukraine. | 20:11 |
barry | \o/ | 20:11 |
nigelb | \o/ | 20:11 |
nigelb | Also, UDS is amazingly timed. | 20:11 |
nigelb | Its in that period where US is off DST and europe isn't. | 20:11 |
barry | slangasek: i can look into it, but i also have no idea how it works ;). i'm in the middle of a bunch of related patches right now, but i can look at this next | 20:11 |
barry | er, not related to tzdata, related to each other :) | 20:12 |
infinity | I can poke at it if tremolux doesn't pop his head up and claim it in the next ~hour. | 20:12 |
nigelb | infinity: Glad to see you're back from vacation/away time :) | 20:12 |
slangasek | barry, infinity: ok, thanks - I can process the SRUs once uploaded | 20:12 |
barry | infinity: okay cool. just follow up here if you do get to it so we don't step on each others toes | 20:13 |
micahg | pitti mentioned before they ussually migrate to -updates as soon as their verified (what that means idk) | 20:13 |
micahg | s/their/they're/ | 20:13 |
slangasek | I would expect "verified" to be "builds, installs, tells you what time it is" | 20:14 |
infinity | Does it have to tell you accurately? | 20:15 |
barry | accurately for what frame of reference <wink> | 20:15 |
slangasek | yes, hence "tell you what time it is", not "tell you a time that it isn't" | 20:15 |
infinity | slangasek: Picky, picky. | 20:15 |
infinity | I'll go grab a snack and see if tremolux (nick hilight ahoy: tremolux, tremolux, tremolux) comes back. If not, I'll get packaging. | 20:16 |
infinity | nigelb: A girl I met on said vacation gave me some sort of plague that I intend to bring to UDS. I've since sworn off both vacations and women. | 20:17 |
nigelb | infinity: Oh no. | 20:18 |
nigelb | Ubuflu! | 20:18 |
sbeattie | infinity: we're grateful you haven't sworn off plagues. | 20:18 |
infinity | sbeattie: That would be a much more reasonable thing to do, and I'm hardly known for that. | 20:18 |
infinity | Anyhow. | 20:19 |
* infinity -> late lunch. | 20:19 | |
tremolux | infinity, slangasek, micahg: hey all, here, I was traveling to a sprint and and now at a sprint and it's very consuming unfortunately, but I know we need these out..I can try to do these later tonight | 20:21 |
micahg | infinity: your incantation worked! | 20:21 |
tremolux | what is the timeframe, I can prepare the updates but just need sponsoring, and I can test them soon as they hit -updates | 20:21 |
tremolux | heh | 20:22 |
micahg | tremolux: well the change takes effect in <24 hours | 20:22 |
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barry | i can certainly sponsor if no one else can, and slangasek can approve -proposed | 20:23 |
tremolux | barry: are you at home or in Orlando? | 20:25 |
tremolux | barry: (and thanks btw) :) | 20:25 |
barry | tremolux: still home. i get there sunday night (after mark's talk). you have the room to yourself for a few days :) | 20:25 |
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infinity | I can push it through the queue if you can upload soonish. | 20:26 |
infinity | tremolux: Is there any particular trick to updating the package, or is it just pulling the latest upstream tarball and merging? | 20:26 |
infinity | tremolux: Cause if you can't get to it, I'm happy to. | 20:26 |
tremolux | infinity: it's a straight merge for everything but hardy, that one is a repack | 20:27 |
tremolux | infinity: you'd also want to make a test case and test them all | 20:28 |
infinity | That second bit sounds like it's the real effort. | 20:29 |
tremolux | infinity: it's just slightly tricky, and I'm used to it myself | 20:29 |
infinity | tremolux: Why the repack? Just because the hardy source format was a bit different, I guess? | 20:34 |
infinity | tremolux: Anyhow. I'm happy to take the load off you and do the updates, if you want to do the testing? | 20:35 |
tremolux | infinity: yep | 20:35 |
tremolux | infinity: thanks! seriously :) | 20:36 |
tremolux | infinity: these might help: bug 876090 and bug 865750 (recent updates) | 20:39 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 876090 in tzdata (Ubuntu) "2011l available" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/876090 | 20:39 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 865750 in tzdata (Ubuntu) "2011k available" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/865750 | 20:39 |
tremolux | infinity: I just make a test case based on what's changed in the new data, and then test in chroots for each distro version | 20:40 |
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infinity | slangasek: You have queue love. | 21:16 |
slangasek | well, at least it's not a plague | 21:16 |
infinity | I'll bring you that in two days. | 21:16 |
infinity | For now, you just get packages. | 21:16 |
slangasek | tremolux, infinity: btw, I heard something to the effect that Transnistria (Pridnestrovie) flip-flopped on the question of whether they were keeping DST this year; do we know whether 2011m reflects the latest status? | 21:20 |
infinity | slangasek: It contains a change for them. I'm not sure which direction the flipping of the flop has gone. | 21:20 |
infinity | +# From Alexander Krivenyshev (2011-10-17): | 21:21 |
infinity | +# Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic (PMR, also known as | 21:21 |
infinity | +# "Pridnestrovie") has abolished seasonal clock change (no transition | 21:21 |
infinity | +# to the Winter Time). | 21:21 |
infinity | ^-- That flip-flop, or a reversal again? | 21:21 |
slangasek | I think it reversed again after that | 21:21 |
infinity | Seriously? | 21:23 |
slangasek | 13:11 < aurel32> so Pridnestrovie just reversed the decision we pushed in 2011m to not to to DST (so they will go to DST) | 21:23 |
infinity | I hate people so much. | 21:23 |
slangasek | 13:12 < aurel32> taking the decision one week ago, reverting it a few days after, not sure, we want to push a new version for that | 21:23 |
infinity | Does aurel have a reference for this? | 21:23 |
Laney | wait and see what they do ;-) | 21:25 |
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slangasek | infinity: dunno about references; but it seems Debian may wait until Sunday to see what the outcome is in practice | 21:46 |
infinity | slangasek: Well, we can't wait on the other change. I suppose we could patch out the Pridnestrovie one, but we can just as easily push a reversal... | 21:48 |
slangasek | indeed | 21:48 |
infinity | slangasek: And you only accepted hardy? Was that before this whole thing came up? :) | 21:54 |
slangasek | infinity: still accepting | 21:54 |
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