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dholbachgood morning07:04
pmjdebruijnmornin07:14
bullgard4Rhonda: I have detected a bug in packages.ubuntu.com. How to deal with it?08:05
RhondaNo clue because you didn't tell me what the bug is. :)08:12
RhondaFirst thing would be to really find out whether it's a bug in packages.u.c or one in changelogs.ubuntu.com08:12
bullgard4Rhonda: If I am looking up a certain package in packages.ubuntu.com for Ubuntu 10.04, 10.10, 11.04, I can find the description of this package. But packages.ubuntu.com does not show the description of a package for Ubuntu 11.10.08:30
RhondaAs you haven't given the name of the "certain package" I still have no clue. :)08:32
RhondaYou see, it's hard to help you if you don't give me the information which are crucial to reproduce the issue on my side and check from there on.08:32
geserRhonda: could it be because the long descriptions moved from the Packages file to Translations?08:33
geserRhonda: compare http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/ubuntu-dev-tools with http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/ubuntu-dev-tools (no long description)08:34
Rhondathanks, that's something with a substance08:35
RhondaSo information was removed from the Packages files in Ubuntu specificly which is there in Debian still?08:36
bullgard4Rhonda: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/gnome-commander does not contain the desscription of the gnome-commnder package.08:36
RhondaSo it's not even a "certain package" but instead, *every* package?08:36
geseryes08:37
bullgard4Rhonda: I have tried 3 examples. All three showed this effect.08:37
Rhondabullgard4: Then please don't speak about a certain package, that is misleading and confusing on my end.08:38
bullgard4Right. Please excuse me.08:38
RhondaBecause that rather sounds you have found it in one package but seen other package that do *not* show that behavior.08:38
RhondaAnd don't get me wrong or grumpy, it's not meant that way. But your description was a bit flakey :)08:39
geser"something isn't working, plz fix!" :)08:39
Rhondageser: if it's just something, then I'm happy with that the rest is still working!  \o/08:40
RhondaHmm, but that sounds like a tricky issue.  Was there some announce about the removal of the package description, and where those can be found now?  How do other package frontends cope with it?08:41
geserthey are now in e.g. http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/universe/i18n/Translation-en08:43
geserapt downloads them together with the Packages files. apt-cache, synaptic and software-center (didn't check other tools) can display them08:46
Rhondahmm08:47
RhondaI am uncertain, haven't checked the code, but if what I did just now works then I'm pleased.08:47
micahgRhonda: was part of enabling multiarch to make the download size more tolerable08:48
RhondaWe'll know in 2 hours I guess.08:48
RhondaI fear though it might not be that easy and "en" is special-cased …08:51
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cjwatsonRhonda: "en" is kind of special-cased, yes10:25
cjwatsonI can't remember if I announced that change10:26
cjwatsonit hadn't occurred to me that things other than apt were going to care, I suspect10:26
cjwatsonyeah, I can't see an announcement, sosrry10:27
cjwatson*sorry10:27
RhondaI mean "en" special-cased inside the packages code. :)10:35
geserRhonda: should your fix be visible by now?12:00
Rhondapotentially yes, the last run was an hour ago12:03
Rhondahmmmm12:03
Rhonda09:26:50 URL:http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/i18n/Translation-en.bz2 [701370/701370] -> "Translation-en.bz2" [1]12:03
RhondaIt at least fetched the file12:03
Rhondawtf12:04
RhondaReading Translations for en (en)...bzcat: Can't open input file /srv/packages.ubuntu.com/archive/*/sid/*/i18n/Translation-en.bz2: No such file or directory.12:04
Rhondasid?!12:05
Rhonda… and wheezy and squeeze and lenny12:05
cdunlapQuick question14:25
cdunlapSo where do you put the dep3 information when you fix a bug?  I found docs to tell me what to include for dep3 but  I am a bit unclear on where to actually put the information.14:26
tumbleweedcdunlap: at the top of the patch. patch ignores junk data at the beginning of patches14:26
tumbleweedor just run "quilt header -e"14:27
cdunlapThank You tumbleweed.  I really appreciate it.14:28
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* tumbleweed wonders if upgrading pre-LTS is a good idea17:58
ajmitchtumbleweed: what could possibly go wrong?17:59
tumbleweederr, pre UDS17:59
tumbleweedajmitch: 18 hours of flight with a broken laptop? Mind you I can probably only squeze 4 hours out of my pair of batteries...18:00
ajmitchthe fun breakage tends to happen after UDS, when people have time to hack on new stuff18:00
tumbleweedthat's true18:00
nigelbajmitch: Going to UDS?18:01
ajmitchnigelb: heh, no18:01
nigelbcompany \o/18:01
Rhonda<nelson point="ajmitch">HA HA!</nelson>18:04
ajmitch:(18:04
Rhondabecause of your nice quote. :)18:04
ajmitchquote?18:05
Rhonda"what could possibly go wrong"18:05
Rhondatumbleweed: but history tells to not do upgrades close to specific dates, and those include giving talks (have been hit by b0rked presentation tools myself) and wordprocessing (like, you have to deliver your work and libreoffice likes to lock you out or eat your documents)18:06
RhondaAnd it happenend to others before too. But .. 18 hours of flight, your battery won't last that long, take a book with you if that's your only worry. :)18:07
tumbleweedindeed, travelling is my most productive reading time18:08
tumbleweedbut long flights are also great for writing that large chunk of code you never get around to when you have internet access18:08
ajmitchtumbleweed: 18 hour flight? almost like you live in NZ :)18:09
tumbleweed13 hours to US, and little flights on either side18:09
nigelbajmitch: if he was in NZ, that would be 28 :P18:11
ajmitchnigelb: nah, it's ~12 hours to LAX or SFO18:11
nigelbNot to Orlando :P18:12
ajmitchno, but it wouldn't be another 16 hours to fly across the US18:12
nigelbheh18:13
jtaylorsomeone fancy uploading a no change rebuild sru?18:24
jtaylorbug 88320418:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 883204 in rpy (Ubuntu) "rpy fails to import in oneiric due to version mismatch" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/88320418:24
jtaylortarget oneiric, maybe also maverick18:25
jtaylorI wonder why it needs rebuilding for minor releases ...18:29
tumbleweedjtaylor: sure, I'll look at it18:29
* tumbleweed reminds jtaylor to get some upload rights, already18:29
jtaylorhm  guess I should finish my application this weekend18:29
tumbleweedheh, ^518:30
gesertumbleweed: finally found time to merge your lp-ftbfs-report MP. Thanks for it.18:38
tumbleweedgeser: thanks18:39
tumbleweedit's probably possible to share some caching between the sqlite database and json file that the other bits produce, I haven't looked at that18:39
tumbleweedwgrant: ^ when you deploy that, you can grab the history for precise from ~stefanor/public_html/lp-ftbfs-report/historical/source/primary-precise.db18:46
tumbleweedjtaylor: uploaded18:58
jtaylorthx, maverick too?18:58
jtaylormy chroot is still setting up18:58
jtaylorit also fails but did not test if rebuild helps18:58
tumbleweederr, no18:58
* tumbleweed didn't look at maverick18:58
* jtaylor building18:59
jtayloryup also fixed by rebuild18:59
tumbleweedhave you filed a bug in debian about adding a Breaks / Depends on r-base-core << foo + 1 ?19:01
jtaylorno but I will19:01
tumbleweedthanks19:01
* tumbleweed merges the ubuntu bugs, and adds a maverick task19:02
jtaylordebian bug filed19:16
Laneypacking, i hate you so20:28
tumbleweedhrm, should do something about that...20:30
Laneytravelling tomorrow?20:30
tumbleweedyeah20:30
broderi still need to figure out what computer i'm bringing20:32
Laneythe luxury of choice20:36
tumbleweedheh, yeah, also only 1 suitable for travel here (and it's well due for replacement)20:40

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