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andrewlsdG'day all04:54
superflysup andrewlsd05:04
* andrewlsd greets superfly05:06
sakhimorning05:33
andrewlsdhiya sakhi05:49
Kilosmorning superfly and all others06:10
Kilosoh my the fly not here06:10
Squirmmorning06:19
Kiloshi Squirm 06:20
nuvolario/ mornings oom Kilos, Squirm, sakhi 06:22
Kiloshi nuvolari 06:22
Kiloshi sakhi 06:22
Kiloshi andrewlsd 06:53
Kiloshi Guest3684 06:54
Guest3684hei kilos06:55
Guest3684hud06:55
=== Guest3684 is now known as Luanda
Kiloshud?06:56
LuandaUm kwl tnx n u?06:57
Kiloskiff ty06:57
Vince-0G'morn!06:57
Kiloshi Vince-0 06:58
Vince-0another kak day in paradise!06:58
Luandahey Vince-006:58
Kiloslol06:59
Vince-0hey hey, work work *peon voice*06:59
Kilosthats life Vince-0 you got many years ahead of same thing07:02
Vince-0ha! what if I'm 60? NOT07:02
Kilosthe trick is learning to enjoy it , then its not so bad07:02
Vince-0yeah!~ looking at starting my own company soon07:02
Kiloslol how old be ya07:03
Vince-02507:03
Kiloswhew long way to go. what company you planning07:03
Vince-0Tech company using open source VoIP software and dev platforms for BI and BPO07:04
Vince-0pitching platforms for getting minutes to termination providers - but there is a big gap on the management systems because the traditional ones cost so much07:05
Kilosgood direction07:05
Vince-0I've seen so many companies using GoAutoDial to do power dialling etc - based on Asterisk07:06
Vince-0but I've got an American master's degree Java architect on board so thats sweet07:07
Kilosyeah07:07
Vince-0my new play thing is currently Freeswitch 07:07
andrewlsdHi kilos07:07
andrewlsdVince-0, am I correct that freeswitch is SIP router rather than a PBX?07:15
andrewlsdif not, what are key differences to Asterisk07:16
Vince-0freeswitch is very much like Asterisk feature wise - but the internals are fundamentaly different07:16
Vince-0both are reffered to as back to back SIP switches but can do many protocol types including xmpp, mumble etc07:17
andrewlsdI read about it locking channels differently07:17
Vince-0yes! the state/threading models are very different - 07:17
andrewlsdTo make i less prone to system lock ups07:17
Vince-0freeswitch looks to be a better bet for web app development purposes because it is all configured in xml07:17
andrewlsdK07:18
Vince-0check out FusionPBX project - awesome functionality front end for freeswitch07:18
andrewlsdDoes it still support dial plans07:18
Vince-0oh yes, it even has a module to interpret asterisk dial plans07:18
andrewlsdLink to it?07:18
Vince-0http://www.fusionpbx.com/07:19
andrewlsdSweet thanks07:19
Vince-0freeswitch seems waay more flexible - although asterisk 10 is just announced and I still havn't understood what exactly Asterisk SCF is07:20
andrewlsdPerformance wise, does freeswitch perform better in terms of memory and cpu on same mum of calls. Or is that a bogus question?07:22
Vince-0I'd say that it does! Although I'm not sure how different the new Asterisk version's media handling has changed07:23
andrewlsdVince-0, ta07:24
Vince-0the other thing about freeswitch is that they have demoted the IAX2 libraries to testing trunk because Digium isn't updating the open libraries07:24
andrewlsdYeah. Lots of unhappiness with digium in forums07:25
Vince-0aah! I'm currently testing: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Connecting_Freeswitch_And_Asterisk07:25
Vince-0in fact, I hear some key digium engineers talking about using freeswitch in front of asterisk to handle SIP type proxying where OpenSIP/SIR/Kamilio is overkill07:26
andrewlsdI saw queries about freeswitch first c/o the "mesh potato" project07:27
andrewlsdKind of like running freeswitch in dd-wrt07:27
Vince-0yes! I've seen freeswitch for pfsense etc - nice and small07:28
Vince-0was reading about that village telco - mash potato project . very nice07:28
Vince-0still, need to put freeswitch through its paces in a production environment though. the developers are very active - currently making HA modules for FS07:29
andrewlsddo you have links for any freeswitch VM appliances for testing purposes?07:31
Vince-0hmm, not really - I was using FusionPBX ISO's in Virtualbox07:31
andrewlsdK07:31
andrewlsdYeah will do that too, in kvm07:32
Vince-0some Freeswitch guis: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Freeswitch_Gui07:37
andrewlsdTa07:39
Symmetriacan someone do me a favour and send a test email to aa@tenet.ac.za 08:12
Symmetriaand tell me if they get an auto reply08:13
Kilosk sym08:13
Kiloson its way08:14
Kiloseish missed the audio bit08:14
Kiloshope its a small audio file08:15
KilosSymmetria, ^^08:15
Symmetriathanks :) though LOL, I think the office email server just went down so gotta wait for that ot come back to see if you get an auto reply08:15
Kilosno reply yet08:15
Symmetrialol yeah the office dsl just went down by the looks of things08:15
Kilosoh auto08:16
Kiloseye not seeing good08:16
KilosSymmetria, lemme know when its up again08:30
superflymorning Kilos09:02
nlsthzno/09:10
Kiloshi nlsthzn 09:11
nlsthznHey uncle Kilos :)09:11
Kiloshiya kbmonkey 09:31
nlsthzno/ kbmonkey ...09:31
Kilosthat vnstat eats data not iftop09:32
kbmonkeyhi Kilos nlsthzn 09:32
Kilosused a weeks data in one day and with iftop off i saw nothing09:32
Kiloshehe09:32
kbmonkeycant be, vnstat does not open any sockets, it just monitors the /proc/net files09:33
kbmonkeythat's why I use it ;)09:33
kbmonkeyhows you otherwise?09:33
Kilosthen i dunno but now i purged it and watching with iftop again09:33
kbmonkeydid iftop report what was using your data?09:34
Kilosused 700k all morn09:34
Kiloslost 14 meg yesterday09:34
kbmonkeyouch :(09:34
Kilosno you two told me to close it09:34
Kiloslol09:34
kbmonkeyno I meant you use iftop to track down the culprit, that's it's primary purpose after all09:35
Kilosyeah but it must be running at the time09:35
kbmonkeyunfortunate :(09:36
Kilosnp we just squeeze harder09:36
kbmonkeyI take your auto updates are turned off?09:36
Kilosyes everything09:36
Kilosmaybe it was one of these bad guys that use your pc to send spam or something i dunno09:37
Kilosbut i have firewall and clamtk09:37
Kilossaw in the lists from linuxtips i think you can make it so your pc cant be pinged09:38
superflyanyone else remember if we did anything else this month?09:38
kbmonkeywhy do you have clam?09:38
Kilosdunno if i must do that09:38
Kilosin case of virusses09:38
Kilosfound 2 a week back09:39
Kilostrojans09:39
Kilosbut was stupid in not saving the record09:39
kbmonkeywell I trust the docs, iftop warns about data usage ;)09:39
kbmonkeyI can't think of any superfly 09:39
Kilosyeah but im sure it doesnt use data on its own09:40
kbmonkeyyes it does, unless you use the -n option 09:40
kbmonkeyoh check your clam update method too,09:41
Kilosok i will do it that way then09:41
kbmonkeyremember windows viruses cant affect you Kilos09:41
Kilosi just basically need to know when to go offline09:41
Kilosnot my kernel but what about things like pidgin09:41
Kiloshave had some funny probs with pidgin over the past 2 years09:42
Kilosneeded to purge and install from scratch to get going again09:42
kbmonkeySame here, I stopped using pidgin09:42
Kilosna it the best09:43
Kilosbut got bugs from msn09:43
Kilosnow it seems ok last few months09:43
kbmonkeyI like it's mxit support, that's neat09:43
Kilosyeah09:44
Kilosall my local fam are mxit peeps09:44
kbmonkeyoh I have pidgin installed already, okay then :D09:44
Kiloslol09:44
Kilospidgin rocks09:44
Kilosand can do otr as well09:45
kbmonkeyoops, forgot my mxit pin. he he09:45
Kiloshaha09:45
kbmonkeymxit don't work on my phone09:45
Kilosonna bb?09:46
kbmonkeyyup09:46
superflyI haven't used mxit in years09:46
kbmonkeyit did, then they changed it, then it didn't09:46
Kilosthey want you to bbm the swines09:46
kbmonkeyI'm racking my brain, google can't help me09:47
Kilostry a reinstall of mxit09:47
kbmonkeyusing python, I want to find out how to get a segment of a circle if I have an angle. phew09:47
Kiloswhew09:48
kbmonkeyI'm sure it's something rather simple, my trig is not that great though09:48
* kbmonkey <-- no pay attention in maths class09:48
Kilosya me too09:48
superflykbmonkey: segment?09:50
kbmonkeyor a point, but in the end I want a section of the circle09:52
kbmonkeylike a slice09:52
kbmonkeylike say a slice of a pizza :D09:52
kbmonkeybut only the crust, a slice of the circumference... in other words09:53
kbmonkeymaybe I am just googling the wrong keywords... let's try other phrases09:54
Kilosill be back later guys. 09:55
Kilosbe good09:55
superflykbmonkey: how is the segment measured?10:00
kbmonkeydo you mean how long should it be?10:01
superflyyou said you want the segment... I'm wondering what is used to describe that segment10:02
superflylike an angle is measured in degrees, and a line is measured in points, what is a segment measured in?10:02
kbmonkeyoh10:02
kbmonkeywell points, but now I think degrees will be easier10:03
kbmonkeyIf I have angle A, I could just get the point A-1 deg, and A+1 deg, and the segment in between will do10:04
kbmonkeythat way, I can vary the segment size by just increasing +-110:04
kbmonkeysorry I'm not sure how to explain it very well. A picture would probably explain it all10:05
kbmonkeyyes that will work, thanks superfly, I just needed someone to make me think differently ;)10:11
magespawnhowdy all11:03
nlsthzno/11:06
superflyyo magespawn11:09
superflyMaaz: tell kbmonkey Well, truth be told, I was just trying to understand what you were trying to do :-D11:10
Maazsuperfly: Sure, I'll tell kbmonkey on freenode11:10
magespawnhi superfly11:24
* nuvolari pops in and out13:37
kbmonkeysuperfly I got it. I wanted to find a point on a circle by angle. I used a parametric equation for a circle. tops14:18
Wacemankbmonkey: you there?14:51
nuvolariMaaz: seen kilos17:24
Maaznuvolari: kilos was last seen 7 hours, 28 minutes and 36 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2011-10-28 11:55:42 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2011-10-28 11:56:07 SAST17:24
Kilosevening all17:44
KilosMaaz, coffee on17:45
* Maaz puts the kettle on17:45
MaazCoffee's ready for Kilos!17:49
KilosMaaz, ty17:52
MaazEnjoy Kilos17:52
kbmonkeyhello Kilos 18:28
kbmonkeynuvolari  o/18:29
Kiloshiya kbmonkey 18:29
nuvolario/ apie :D18:29
kbmonkeygetting into python nicely tonight :)18:29
nuvolarihoe gaan dit daar by die ander see?18:29
nuvolaristuur groete vir tafelberg18:29
nuvolarien sê ek verlang18:29
kbmonkeyek sal die dassies groete stuur van durbs af!18:30
Kilosgood lad , python rocks18:30
nuvolariKilos: if it wasnt for java, you did not have any coffee from Maaz :P18:30
nuvolarimaar laat ons nou nie 'n geveg oopkrap nie18:31
nuvolari:P18:31
Kiloslol i love my java18:31
Kiloswith cremora and milk18:31
kbmonkeyha ha!18:34
kbmonkeyyup java is tops too, but I'll leave that to the experts ;)18:34
Kiloskbmonkey, you gotta get things together for lpi hey18:34
Kilosno loafing18:34
* nuvolari hides before oom Kilos does more pointing18:34
kbmonkeyi know Kilos! I'm trying to learn python somewhat so I can secure a job too 18:35
Kiloshehe18:35
Kilosgood lad18:35
Kilosnot too much holidaying and site seeing18:35
nuvolari:-/ I had F(r)U(stratio)N today learning how to work with apache lucene18:36
Kilosindian fodder18:37
zerefhurrrmmmm18:37
Kiloshey zeref 18:37
zerefhi Kilos18:37
nuvolario hi zeref 18:38
* nuvolari waves18:38
zerefHi :-)18:38
kbmonkeyzeref o\18:38
zerefi understand nuvolari i spend the whole day trying to install an aaplication on amazon linux18:38
zerefhi kbmonkey :-D18:38
Kilosnuvolari, do you know if one kan go to google and setup that site goodie with elinks18:39
Kilosor maybe the monkey knows18:39
nuvolariKilos: hmm, will check quick oom18:39
Kiloshe uses elinks18:39
kbmonkeyi do :D18:39
kbmonkeywhat site goodie?18:39
Kilosnuvolari, tell him18:40
nuvolarikbmonkey: just plain google sites18:40
kbmonkeyeen ding van die kaap, die vrugte is so lekker!18:40
nuvolari*GoogleSites18:40
kbmonkeyah,18:40
nuvolarikbmonkey: *en* die wyn18:40
kbmonkeywyn++18:40
kbmonkeyWINE18:40
nuvolariKilos: it works oom18:40
Kiloslol18:40
Kilosyay i will try it then18:41
Kilosmaybe18:41
Kilosmy google is full18:41
kbmonkeyhaven't  tried google sites with elinks yet, should do, sites uses very simple styling, not much javascript or any flash18:41
Kilosgamil18:41
Kilosgmail18:41
kbmonkeyyour gmail is full? wow. yes i sit on 40% myself18:41
Kilosneed to clear all the mail one day18:42
Kilosit eats data just to go there with ff or epiphany18:43
kbmonkeyyou want to make a site Kilos ?18:43
Kilosyeah so tara can put her songs there for me to wget18:43
kbmonkeyI use elinks with my gmail now, the basic html gmail version, works good18:43
nuvolarikbmonkey: you should check out pine18:44
nuvolarithere was something else, can't remember now18:44
nuvolariah, alpine18:44
nuvolari:P18:44
kbmonkeysorry your net got eaten Kilos :/18:45
Kiloshuh?18:45
kbmonkeyah thanks nuvolari! I tried mutt but couldn't figure out how to get my email into it :p18:45
kbmonkeyi use a text music player, file manager and web browser now. lol18:46
nuvolariyeah... mutt. 'nuff said.18:46
Kilossaw an add on tv tonight. 8ta 3g data for R14918:46
kbmonkey8ta?18:46
nuvolarikbmonkey: what file browser? (you actually use a text file browser? what's wrong with ls? :P)18:46
Kilostelkom broadband18:46
kbmonkeyha ha!18:46
kbmonkeymc18:46
Kilosand starter packs for 99c at checkers18:47
kbmonkeyerr, this wifi is hard to tell how much data I have left18:47
Kilosnursing data really sucks18:49
kbmonkeyinstalling alpine, if i DC i ran out :D18:49
Kiloslol18:49
kbmonkeyeach time I need to reset my wifi as their portal site stops working when that happens. weird18:49
nuvolarikbmonkey: just need to figure out how to set up alpine with google authentication (application-specific passwords)18:51
kbmonkeydoing that now, let's ask google18:52
kbmonkeyKilos if you want to get files, dropbox might be better18:53
Kiloswhere is that thing18:53
Kilossure i saw something like that in my evolution18:54
kbmonkeyand each site has a limit of 100MB18:54
Kilossome box18:54
Kilossaid save to that box but didnt work18:54
kbmonkeydropbox is a website where you can 'drop' your files to share18:54
kbmonkeydropbox is similar to ubuntu one18:55
Kilosoh18:55
Kilosthen its browser to get there18:55
Kilosi just need a place to wget the odd song from my brat18:56
kbmonkeynot neccesary18:56
kbmonkeytara will use the site to setup an account, then give you the link which you can still wget18:56
kbmonkeyany files you put in the "Public" folder in dropbox, has a link you can give your friends. It is a direct link to the file, so wget works18:57
Kiloslol she fulla like her mother18:57
nuvolaridropbog, googlesitebox, some diff :P18:57
nuvolari(wget included)18:58
nuvolarihmm. wonder how well google+ will handle that?18:58
nuvolarithey talk about videos, but I wonder if they support audio18:59
Kilosand she a youtube fool so will be hard to convince her otherwise but i will try18:59
* nuvolari tests18:59
Kilosgoogle+ also eats data18:59
nuvolariKilos: tell her youtube is not from google18:59
Kilosshe isnt a google fan18:59
kbmonkeygoogle owns youtube now18:59
Kilosi got her to open her gmail account19:00
Kilosah19:00
* Kilos hates youtube19:00
Kilosits like watching some mongrel eating your rump steak19:01
kbmonkeylol Kilos !19:02
Kilosinetpro, lewe jy nog19:04
Kiloskbmonkey, must you use a soecial command to get elinks working to set up a site at gmail19:05
Kilosdo you actually log into gmail or just google19:06
kbmonkeywhen you logged into google, at the top are links, one called "Sites"19:06
kbmonkeyor go to sites.google.com19:06
Kilosyou see that in elinks?19:07
nuvolariwhoot! got my alpine working19:07
kbmonkeyI typed that into elinks yes19:07
Kiloswhat is alpine nuvolari 19:07
nuvolariKilos: a text email client oom19:08
Kilosah ty19:08
Kilossurely with http:// in front hey19:08
nuvolarikbmonkey: I got the good stuff if you want some :P19:09
nuvolaripretty standard alpine setup, and found out how to make it remember your password19:09
kbmonkeyi set mine up, seems to take, but how to I retrieve email? lol19:09
kbmonkeyyes if you have a link please :D19:10
nuvolarikbmonkey: how did you set it up? I use imap19:10
nuvolarithere's nothing special, just select the folder list19:10
kbmonkeyimap19:10
Kilosi could never get imap working19:10
nuvolariwell, it's showing everything from my inbox, I did not figure out how to reach different labels yet :P19:10
kbmonkeywoot it sent an email!19:11
Kilosuse that other thing19:11
Kilospop19:11
kbmonkeyneed to find out how to import my address book19:11
nuvolarikbmonkey: http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/do_you_want_the_alpine_email_c.php19:11
nuvolarifor passwords ^^19:12
kbmonkeythanks!19:13
nuvolarikbmonkey: http://studioshorts.com/blog/2009/11/using-alpine-to-check-your-emailgmail-in-linux-terminal/ going to try this for labels19:14
kbmonkeyyou move fast, I still can't see my inbox :p19:15
Kilosgrr cant even login to tgoogle sites with elinks19:16
kbmonkeyI'm logged in Kilos 19:16
Kilosyou know where you scroll down to sign in  and type in mail addrsss and password19:17
Kiloscant get even to password19:17
kbmonkeythat's not right19:18
nuvolaribah :-/ kbmonkey what username/password do I use for sending mail? Think I'm missing something :P not the same credentials as for fetching mail19:18
Kiloswhere it say email i start typing msdomdonner and it open a little line with autho goody first19:19
kbmonkeyKilos does your typing enter into the box, press enter first to focus it?19:19
Kilosoh sec i see19:20
Kilosw00t that works19:20
kbmonkeynuvolari you enter Menu Setup Config and go down to SMTP19:20
Kilosty19:20
kbmonkeyand enter: smtp.gmail.com:587/tls/user=your-gmail-address@gmail.com19:21
nuvolariwhoops, need to change my signature :P19:21
Kilosnow it asks for my mobile fone number19:21
Kilosgrrrr19:21
nuvolarikbmonkey: I figured it needs the application-specific password again19:22
nuvolariso it's worknig now19:22
kbmonkeyskip that Kilos its just their security update thingy19:22
kbmonkeyapp specific password?19:22
kbmonkeyha ha it was working all along nuvolari, I just didnt realize I can Enter on the mailbox :p19:23
kbmonkeylabels and all19:24
Kilosnow it wants to open evince%19:24
Kilosgrrr19:24
Kiloswhen you said skip that i hit enter19:24
kbmonkeyi followed this one nuvolari https://www.cs.virginia.edu/~csadmin/wiki/index.php/Settin19:24
kbmonkeybut that link you sent me for the labels is the final clue19:25
Kilosfound the click here to skip this step19:26
kbmonkey:)19:26
nuvolarikbmonkey: does your labels work?19:26
kbmonkeyyes19:27
nuvolarikbmonkey: the app-specific password you need to use when you enabled 2-step verification in your google account19:27
kbmonkeybut you know my link, it sets up a second mail folder, that one has labels that work, but the INBOX label shows empty :p19:27
kbmonkeyooooh19:27
kbmonkeybut the Gmail/All Mail label works19:28
Kilosnuvolari, do i now scroll down to create for this google site thing19:29
kbmonkeythis is too cool19:29
Kilosit shows my site19:29
kbmonkeydid you create one Kilos? 19:30
nuvolariKilos: hmm, not sure how the rest of the site stuffies work on elinks19:30
Kilosdoes it now want to topen a new site or is that the place for this 100m thingie19:30
Kilosno man i talking about my yola site i think its showing here19:31
Kiloslol it says mileyssite shared with everyone in the world19:32
Kilosbut thats at yola no google?19:32
kbmonkeyyola?19:34
Kiloscant scroll to create it goes past19:34
KilosMaaz, kilos.site19:34
Maazhttp://mileys-site.yolasite.com/19:34
kbmonkeythanks nuvolari for recommending alpine! you the best!19:35
Kilosdunno how that linked to google19:35
Kiloscant scroll to create or click it19:36
Kilosi give up now19:36
Kiloshead thumping19:36
Kilosgrr grr19:37
kbmonkeysjoe sounds like a problem Kilos 19:37
Kiloslol yeah they want me to use a standard browser19:38
Kilosswines19:38
nuvolari:D got my folders worknig at last :P19:38
nuvolarino problem kbmonkey 19:38
nuvolariKilos: hang on19:38
nuvolarilet me check19:39
kbmonkeyvia the Message [I]ndex?19:39
Kilosok19:39
nuvolariKilos: ok, what do yo uwant to do? I can see your site at https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite19:40
kbmonkeyil look now now Kilos 19:41
nuvolariMaaz: kilos.site is http://mileys-site.yolasite.com and https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite19:41
Maaznuvolari: I already know stuff about kilos.site19:41
nuvolariMaaz: forget about kilos.site19:41
Maaznuvolari: I didn't know about about kilos.site anyway19:41
nuvolariMaaz: kilos.site is http://mileys-site.yolasite.com and https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite19:41
Maaznuvolari: I already know stuff about kilos.site19:41
Kiloswhat site is that nuvolari 19:42
Kiloswhen did i create that sight al google19:42
nuvolariKilos: long ago :P19:43
Kilosis that a 100m site19:43
Kilosoh my19:43
Kilospissed again19:43
nuvolariit says posted june 23, 201019:43
Kilostoo much coffee\19:43
Kiloswow19:43
nuvolariby you oom Kilos :P19:43
Kilosbut cant be anything in it19:43
Kilosok so,is that a 100m one19:44
Kilosor another website19:44
nuvolariKilos: it's that one19:44
nuvolarithe 100mb one19:44
Kilosoh are they not a new thing19:45
nuvolarihow do you mean?19:45
Kiloswell thats last year already19:45
Kilosis that what i must use to get tara to post songs to19:45
nuvolariKilos: well, that is your personal one19:47
nuvolarithe ideal would be that she creates her own, then give you the link to download19:47
nuvolariotherwise you can give her permission to post to your site19:47
Kilosoh cant you post to my one19:47
Kiloslol thats what i mean19:47
nuvolariye, you just need to, say, create a special page which only certain people can see19:48
nuvolariand then allow her to modify that page19:48
nuvolaribecause as it is now, anyone can view stuff19:48
Kiloseish19:48
Kilosi stuck in the help and dunno how to go back19:49
Kilosthats fine if its music from her. i dont mind sharing then i dont have to give youtube links to evryone19:50
nuvolaricool19:50
nuvolaribut you still need to give her permission 19:50
Kilosbut how do i get out of the help and go back19:50
nuvolarihmm19:50
nuvolariKilos: in elinks?19:50
Kilosand how do i give permission to her and yous19:51
Kilosyip in elinks19:51
nuvolaridoesn't it go back when you press left-arrow?19:51
Kilossec19:51
Kilosja slim seun19:51
Kilosnow how do i give permissions19:52
bakuman0_019:52
Kiloshi bakuman 19:52
bakumanhi Kilos :)19:52
Kilosender hehe i membered19:53
bakumanhaha yea, damn, cant get a thing past you :)19:53
Kiloslol thats because its not 24 hours yet19:53
nuvolariKilos: hmm, gimme a sec, need to check19:54
Kilosk19:54
nuvolarigoogle rocks19:56
Kilosi need to give you two and the fly and gussie permissions for now19:56
nuvolariand if my phone decides to get a life, I can verify myself :P19:56
Kilosare you using elinks nuvolari 19:56
Kiloslol19:56
nuvolariye oom, I need to be able to tell you if it's possible :P19:56
nuvolari*using elinks19:56
Kilosi dont get mail to fone as well19:56
Kilosdankie seun19:57
nuvolariI don't believe it. 19:57
Kilosim at 992k data so gotta do it without too much hunting19:58
nuvolarithey are awesome19:58
Kiloslol waht19:58
nuvolariI colud log in19:58
nuvolari*could19:59
nuvolariag no :-/20:00
kbmonkeysorry guys ill see you laters :)20:00
nuvolariKilos: it looks like you'll need to use a normal browser just to enable the permissions20:00
nuvolaricheers kbmonkey 20:00
Kilostoods kbmonkey 20:00
nuvolarihappy alpining20:00
nuvolari:P20:00
Kiloseish20:00
bakumanso what are you guys doing?20:00
nuvolariKilos: the permissions link is not clickable in elinks :-/20:01
nuvolaribakuman: helping uncle Kilos to get his site going20:01
bakumanoe... is there something up yet?20:01
Kilosin elinks browser bakuman 20:01
bakumanwhy on elinks?20:03
Kilosto save data bakuman 20:04
Kilosver limited here20:04
Kilos2m per day20:05
bakumanim not exactly with you. are you trying to view your own site with elinks, or make it elinks friendly so other people can use it?20:05
Kilosi need to use elinks to go there cause a normal browser eats data20:08
bakumanah, is it easier thank using lynx? cause that could also work20:08
Kilosand i need to set my site there to get music from my daughter so i can wget it and not need to go to youtube20:08
bakumancool20:09
Kiloshave you heard her sing bakuman 20:10
bakumanwould not know who she is20:10
Kiloscan you go youtube20:10
bakumanyea20:10
Kilossec i look for the link20:11
Kiloseish i lost it somewhere i ask nuvolari 20:14
Kilosnuvolari, do you have tara's youtube link please20:14
nuvolarihmm, need to have a look, hang on20:15
Kilosi lose things day to day20:15
Kilossorry bakuman 20:15
bakumanhaha its fine :)20:21
Kilosshe is in aus20:21
Kilosnever met her yet20:21
Kiloswe met on facebook near 2 years ago for the first time20:22
bakumanah cool :)20:24
Kilosbakuman, i think this is it20:28
Kiloshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmLemlIDCl020:28
Kiloshad to plug in external to find it20:28
Kilosthe song to watch is I will always love you in the xfactor audition20:29
Kiloshttp://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=dXP2GdqYCOM20:31
Kilosor that one maybe bakuman 20:31
Kilosi get lost20:31
Kilosif you have cap probs wait for nuvolari to verify20:32
bakumanhaha ok :)20:32
Kilosyoutube isnt shy to use data20:33
Kilosits for adsl uncapped peeps20:33
nuvolariMaaz: tara.link20:33
Maaznuvolari: Huh?20:33
nuvolari:?20:34
nuvolariMaaz: tara.link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmLemlIDCl020:34
Maaznuvolari: I'll remember that20:34
Kilosty nuvolari 20:34
Kilosbakuman, ^^20:37
Kiloszeref, you seen my brat?20:37
zerefbrat??20:44
zerefoh20:44
zerefummmmm, no20:44
Kilosyou havent got data probs hey20:45
Kiloshttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmLemlIDCl020:45
bakumantelkom 8gb20:45
bakumanhave 500mb for last few days20:46
Kiloseish20:46
superflytoo much backlog to read this late at night20:47
bakumanhaha20:47
Kiloslol20:47
Kiloshiya fly20:47
Kilosyou free now20:47
Kilosor work tomorrow20:47
superflyKilos: free, today was my last day20:48
Kilosyay20:49
bakumani still have 1 hectic week lest20:49
bakuman*left20:49
Kilosthats good bakuman 20:50
bakumanwrote today, report monday, presentation wednesday20:51
bakumanlol, top comment: She can actually smile and sing at the same time20:51
Kiloslol20:52
Kilosshe can sing hey20:52
bakumanyea :)20:52
Kilosshe has now entered The Voice Aus as well20:53
bakumanok, time to clean up, i was in the roof earlier, so very dusty, cheerz20:53
Kiloscheers bakuman 20:54
nuvolariMaaz: tara.link is https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/tara20:57
Maaznuvolari: I already know stuff about tara.link20:57
Kiloslol20:57
nuvolariMaaz: forget tara.link20:57
Maaznuvolari: Sure20:57
nuvolariMaaz: tara.link is https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/tara20:57
Maaznuvolari: If you say so20:57
nuvolariMaaz: tara.link20:57
Maaznuvolari: tara.link is https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/tara20:57
nuvolari:>20:57
Kilosdankie boetie20:57
nuvolariKilos: ^^ piekfyn20:58
nuvolariplesier oom!20:58
nuvolarioh20:58
nuvolarilol, dit was alreeds reg20:58
Kiloslol20:58
zerefsigh20:58
nuvolario wag nee20:59
nuvolariok. anyway. it's done20:59
* nuvolari hands zeref a glass of sugar water20:59
nuvolariwhat's wrong za?20:59
nuvolarier, zeref 20:59
Kiloszeref, you use 8ta contract hey21:00
nuvolariMaaz: Kilos.site21:00
nuvolariMaaz: kilos.site21:00
nuvolari:?21:00
Kilossaw they doing 3g for R14921:00
Maazhttp://mileys-site.yolasite.com/21:00
nuvolarimaaz!21:00
Maazhttp://mileys-site.yolasite.com/21:01
nuvolariah21:01
nuvolarijust being slow21:01
Kilosdunno if its contract as well or pay as you go21:01
nuvolariMaaz: forget kilos.site21:01
Maaznuvolari: Sure21:01
nuvolariMaaz: kilos.site is http://mileys-site.yolasite.com and https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite21:01
Maaznuvolari: Got it21:01
Kiloswell done nuvolari you are a star'21:01
* nuvolari skitter21:02
nuvolari:P21:02
Kiloslol21:02
nuvolariKilos: talking about sterre, sunday afternoon we saw Patricia Lewis on the beach :P21:02
Kilossuperfly, when you going stateside21:02
Kilosshe cute hey21:03
Kilosfull of life21:03
superflyKilos: we leave on Monday evening, and get there on Tuesday evening21:03
nuvolarilol if you say so oom :P21:03
Kilosenjoy every minute superfly 21:03
superflyKilos: ek sal so probeer oom21:03
Kilosnuvolari, is she fat now?21:03
nuvolariwhoot! my sis is visiting form Australia from the 29th of november21:04
Kilosyay tell her bring debs with21:04
nuvolariKilos: nope, she's just never been my kinda woman :P21:04
nuvolarishame, my ma verlang baie21:04
zerefKilos: no21:04
Kilosonly her nose is too big and she bietjie voor op die wa21:04
zerefI'm cell c :P21:05
Kilosbut thats show biz21:05
nuvolarilol? her nose? I've never noticed her nose21:05
zerefnuvolari: being compiling a program and fixing errors the whole day21:05
Kiloslol21:05
Kilosjy is stout21:06
Kiloswaar kyk jy dan21:06
Kiloshehe21:06
superflynuvolari: does she have as much cleavage in real life? it's about the only thing you see when you google for "patricia lewis"...21:09
superfly:-P21:09
Kiloslol21:09
Kiloswhew21:09
Kilosyou naughty too21:09
Kiloslook at her nose21:09
Kilosshe is breast feeding a baby21:09
superflyKilos: no, I just couldn't remember what she looks like, so I googled for her21:10
Kilosya ya21:10
superflyand oom, breastfeeding has nothing to do with the size of a woman's bosom21:10
Kilosoh yes21:10
Kilosthe get full21:10
Kilosthey21:10
Kilosbut she has always been well endowed21:11
Kiloscant bump her nose against the wall21:11
Kiloseish look at the time21:12
Kilosno wonder i am swaying onna chair21:12
Kilosnight all. sleep tight21:12
Kilossee ya morrow21:12
nuvolaribwahahaha superfly 21:15
superflynuvolari: ?21:15
nuvolariwell, nothing popped out, that I noticed21:15
superflyhahahaha21:15
nuvolarishe and her hubby and the kid was out for a walk along the beach, so no bathing suit21:16
superflynuvolari: she wears plenty form-fitting, low-cut dresses from what I see on teh Google21:16
nuvolarisuperfly: ya, especially for her shows21:17
nuvolaribut I guess that's to take people's attention off her brain :P21:17
nuvolariI don't think there is too much in there21:18
nuvolaribut I might just get in trouble for saying that21:18
superflyhahaha21:18
* nuvolari rather keeps quiet21:18
nuvolariok, bedtime21:20
* nuvolari out21:20
superflyme too21:20
nuvolario/21:20
nuvolarinight superfly 21:20
superflynight nuvolari21:20
superflydon't be so much of a stranger21:20
nuvolari:-/ Can't promise much. Tough weekend ahead and work coming out of my ears21:21

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