[00:07] <zeref> \q
[04:54] <andrewlsd> G'day all
[05:04] <superfly> sup andrewlsd
[05:06]  * andrewlsd greets superfly
[05:33] <sakhi> morning
[05:49] <andrewlsd> hiya sakhi
[06:10] <Kilos> morning superfly and all others
[06:10] <Kilos> oh my the fly not here
[06:19] <Squirm> morning
[06:20] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[06:22] <nuvolari> o/ mornings oom Kilos, Squirm, sakhi 
[06:22] <Kilos> hi nuvolari 
[06:22] <Kilos> hi sakhi 
[06:53] <Kilos> hi andrewlsd 
[06:54] <Kilos> hi Guest3684 
[06:55] <Guest3684> hei kilos
[06:55] <Guest3684> hud
[06:56] <Kilos> hud?
[06:57] <Luanda> Um kwl tnx n u?
[06:57] <Kilos> kiff ty
[06:57] <Vince-0> G'morn!
[06:58] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[06:58] <Vince-0> another kak day in paradise!
[06:58] <Luanda> hey Vince-0
[06:59] <Kilos> lol
[06:59] <Vince-0> hey hey, work work *peon voice*
[07:02] <Kilos> thats life Vince-0 you got many years ahead of same thing
[07:02] <Vince-0> ha! what if I'm 60? NOT
[07:02] <Kilos> the trick is learning to enjoy it , then its not so bad
[07:02] <Vince-0> yeah!~ looking at starting my own company soon
[07:03] <Kilos> lol how old be ya
[07:03] <Vince-0> 25
[07:03] <Kilos> whew long way to go. what company you planning
[07:04] <Vince-0> Tech company using open source VoIP software and dev platforms for BI and BPO
[07:05] <Vince-0> pitching platforms for getting minutes to termination providers - but there is a big gap on the management systems because the traditional ones cost so much
[07:05] <Kilos> good direction
[07:06] <Vince-0> I've seen so many companies using GoAutoDial to do power dialling etc - based on Asterisk
[07:07] <Vince-0> but I've got an American master's degree Java architect on board so thats sweet
[07:07] <Kilos> yeah
[07:07] <Vince-0> my new play thing is currently Freeswitch 
[07:07] <andrewlsd> Hi kilos
[07:15] <andrewlsd> Vince-0, am I correct that freeswitch is SIP router rather than a PBX?
[07:16] <andrewlsd> if not, what are key differences to Asterisk
[07:16] <Vince-0> freeswitch is very much like Asterisk feature wise - but the internals are fundamentaly different
[07:17] <Vince-0> both are reffered to as back to back SIP switches but can do many protocol types including xmpp, mumble etc
[07:17] <andrewlsd> I read about it locking channels differently
[07:17] <Vince-0> yes! the state/threading models are very different - 
[07:17] <andrewlsd> To make i less prone to system lock ups
[07:17] <Vince-0> freeswitch looks to be a better bet for web app development purposes because it is all configured in xml
[07:18] <andrewlsd> K
[07:18] <Vince-0> check out FusionPBX project - awesome functionality front end for freeswitch
[07:18] <andrewlsd> Does it still support dial plans
[07:18] <Vince-0> oh yes, it even has a module to interpret asterisk dial plans
[07:18] <andrewlsd> Link to it?
[07:19] <Vince-0> http://www.fusionpbx.com/
[07:19] <andrewlsd> Sweet thanks
[07:20] <Vince-0> freeswitch seems waay more flexible - although asterisk 10 is just announced and I still havn't understood what exactly Asterisk SCF is
[07:22] <andrewlsd> Performance wise, does freeswitch perform better in terms of memory and cpu on same mum of calls. Or is that a bogus question?
[07:23] <Vince-0> I'd say that it does! Although I'm not sure how different the new Asterisk version's media handling has changed
[07:24] <andrewlsd> Vince-0, ta
[07:24] <Vince-0> the other thing about freeswitch is that they have demoted the IAX2 libraries to testing trunk because Digium isn't updating the open libraries
[07:25] <andrewlsd> Yeah. Lots of unhappiness with digium in forums
[07:25] <Vince-0> aah! I'm currently testing: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Connecting_Freeswitch_And_Asterisk
[07:26] <Vince-0> in fact, I hear some key digium engineers talking about using freeswitch in front of asterisk to handle SIP type proxying where OpenSIP/SIR/Kamilio is overkill
[07:27] <andrewlsd> I saw queries about freeswitch first c/o the "mesh potato" project
[07:27] <andrewlsd> Kind of like running freeswitch in dd-wrt
[07:28] <Vince-0> yes! I've seen freeswitch for pfsense etc - nice and small
[07:28] <Vince-0> was reading about that village telco - mash potato project . very nice
[07:29] <Vince-0> still, need to put freeswitch through its paces in a production environment though. the developers are very active - currently making HA modules for FS
[07:31] <andrewlsd> do you have links for any freeswitch VM appliances for testing purposes?
[07:31] <Vince-0> hmm, not really - I was using FusionPBX ISO's in Virtualbox
[07:31] <andrewlsd> K
[07:32] <andrewlsd> Yeah will do that too, in kvm
[07:37] <Vince-0> some Freeswitch guis: http://wiki.freeswitch.org/wiki/Freeswitch_Gui
[07:39] <andrewlsd> Ta
[08:12] <Symmetria> can someone do me a favour and send a test email to aa@tenet.ac.za 
[08:13] <Symmetria> and tell me if they get an auto reply
[08:13] <Kilos> k sym
[08:14] <Kilos> on its way
[08:14] <Kilos> eish missed the audio bit
[08:15] <Kilos> hope its a small audio file
[08:15] <Kilos> Symmetria, ^^
[08:15] <Symmetria> thanks :) though LOL, I think the office email server just went down so gotta wait for that ot come back to see if you get an auto reply
[08:15] <Kilos> no reply yet
[08:15] <Symmetria> lol yeah the office dsl just went down by the looks of things
[08:16] <Kilos> oh auto
[08:16] <Kilos> eye not seeing good
[08:30] <Kilos> Symmetria, lemme know when its up again
[09:02] <superfly> morning Kilos
[09:10] <nlsthzn> o/
[09:11] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[09:11] <nlsthzn> Hey uncle Kilos :)
[09:31] <Kilos> hiya kbmonkey 
[09:31] <nlsthzn> o/ kbmonkey ...
[09:32] <Kilos> that vnstat eats data not iftop
[09:32] <kbmonkey> hi Kilos nlsthzn 
[09:32] <Kilos> used a weeks data in one day and with iftop off i saw nothing
[09:32] <Kilos> hehe
[09:33] <kbmonkey> cant be, vnstat does not open any sockets, it just monitors the /proc/net files
[09:33] <kbmonkey> that's why I use it ;)
[09:33] <kbmonkey> hows you otherwise?
[09:33] <Kilos> then i dunno but now i purged it and watching with iftop again
[09:34] <kbmonkey> did iftop report what was using your data?
[09:34] <Kilos> used 700k all morn
[09:34] <Kilos> lost 14 meg yesterday
[09:34] <kbmonkey> ouch :(
[09:34] <Kilos> no you two told me to close it
[09:34] <Kilos> lol
[09:35] <kbmonkey> no I meant you use iftop to track down the culprit, that's it's primary purpose after all
[09:35] <Kilos> yeah but it must be running at the time
[09:36] <kbmonkey> unfortunate :(
[09:36] <Kilos> np we just squeeze harder
[09:36] <kbmonkey> I take your auto updates are turned off?
[09:36] <Kilos> yes everything
[09:37] <Kilos> maybe it was one of these bad guys that use your pc to send spam or something i dunno
[09:37] <Kilos> but i have firewall and clamtk
[09:38] <Kilos> saw in the lists from linuxtips i think you can make it so your pc cant be pinged
[09:38] <superfly> anyone else remember if we did anything else this month?
[09:38] <kbmonkey> why do you have clam?
[09:38] <Kilos> dunno if i must do that
[09:38] <Kilos> in case of virusses
[09:39] <Kilos> found 2 a week back
[09:39] <Kilos> trojans
[09:39] <Kilos> but was stupid in not saving the record
[09:39] <kbmonkey> well I trust the docs, iftop warns about data usage ;)
[09:39] <kbmonkey> I can't think of any superfly 
[09:40] <Kilos> yeah but im sure it doesnt use data on its own
[09:40] <kbmonkey> yes it does, unless you use the -n option 
[09:41] <kbmonkey> oh check your clam update method too,
[09:41] <Kilos> ok i will do it that way then
[09:41] <kbmonkey> remember windows viruses cant affect you Kilos
[09:41] <Kilos> i just basically need to know when to go offline
[09:41] <Kilos> not my kernel but what about things like pidgin
[09:42] <Kilos> have had some funny probs with pidgin over the past 2 years
[09:42] <Kilos> needed to purge and install from scratch to get going again
[09:42] <kbmonkey> Same here, I stopped using pidgin
[09:43] <Kilos> na it the best
[09:43] <Kilos> but got bugs from msn
[09:43] <Kilos> now it seems ok last few months
[09:43] <kbmonkey> I like it's mxit support, that's neat
[09:44] <Kilos> yeah
[09:44] <Kilos> all my local fam are mxit peeps
[09:44] <kbmonkey> oh I have pidgin installed already, okay then :D
[09:44] <Kilos> lol
[09:44] <Kilos> pidgin rocks
[09:45] <Kilos> and can do otr as well
[09:45] <kbmonkey> oops, forgot my mxit pin. he he
[09:45] <Kilos> haha
[09:45] <kbmonkey> mxit don't work on my phone
[09:46] <Kilos> onna bb?
[09:46] <kbmonkey> yup
[09:46] <superfly> I haven't used mxit in years
[09:46] <kbmonkey> it did, then they changed it, then it didn't
[09:46] <Kilos> they want you to bbm the swines
[09:47] <kbmonkey> I'm racking my brain, google can't help me
[09:47] <Kilos> try a reinstall of mxit
[09:47] <kbmonkey> using python, I want to find out how to get a segment of a circle if I have an angle. phew
[09:48] <Kilos> whew
[09:48] <kbmonkey> I'm sure it's something rather simple, my trig is not that great though
[09:48]  * kbmonkey <-- no pay attention in maths class
[09:48] <Kilos> ya me too
[09:50] <superfly> kbmonkey: segment?
[09:52] <kbmonkey> or a point, but in the end I want a section of the circle
[09:52] <kbmonkey> like a slice
[09:52] <kbmonkey> like say a slice of a pizza :D
[09:53] <kbmonkey> but only the crust, a slice of the circumference... in other words
[09:54] <kbmonkey> maybe I am just googling the wrong keywords... let's try other phrases
[09:55] <Kilos> ill be back later guys. 
[09:55] <Kilos> be good
[10:00] <superfly> kbmonkey: how is the segment measured?
[10:01] <kbmonkey> do you mean how long should it be?
[10:02] <superfly> you said you want the segment... I'm wondering what is used to describe that segment
[10:02] <superfly> like an angle is measured in degrees, and a line is measured in points, what is a segment measured in?
[10:02] <kbmonkey> oh
[10:03] <kbmonkey> well points, but now I think degrees will be easier
[10:04] <kbmonkey> If I have angle A, I could just get the point A-1 deg, and A+1 deg, and the segment in between will do
[10:04] <kbmonkey> that way, I can vary the segment size by just increasing +-1
[10:05] <kbmonkey> sorry I'm not sure how to explain it very well. A picture would probably explain it all
[10:11] <kbmonkey> yes that will work, thanks superfly, I just needed someone to make me think differently ;)
[11:03] <magespawn> howdy all
[11:06] <nlsthzn> o/
[11:09] <superfly> yo magespawn
[11:10] <superfly> Maaz: tell kbmonkey Well, truth be told, I was just trying to understand what you were trying to do :-D
[11:10] <Maaz> superfly: Sure, I'll tell kbmonkey on freenode
[11:24] <magespawn> hi superfly
[13:37]  * nuvolari pops in and out
[14:18] <kbmonkey> superfly I got it. I wanted to find a point on a circle by angle. I used a parametric equation for a circle. tops
[14:51] <Waceman> kbmonkey: you there?
[17:24] <nuvolari> Maaz: seen kilos
[17:24] <Maaz> nuvolari: kilos was last seen 7 hours, 28 minutes and 36 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2011-10-28 11:55:42 SAST], and has been offline on freenode since 2011-10-28 11:56:07 SAST
[17:44] <Kilos> evening all
[17:45] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[17:45]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[17:49] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[17:52] <Kilos> Maaz, ty
[17:52] <Maaz> Enjoy Kilos
[18:28] <kbmonkey> hello Kilos 
[18:29] <kbmonkey> nuvolari  o/
[18:29] <Kilos> hiya kbmonkey 
[18:29] <nuvolari> o/ apie :D
[18:29] <kbmonkey> getting into python nicely tonight :)
[18:29] <nuvolari> hoe gaan dit daar by die ander see?
[18:29] <nuvolari> stuur groete vir tafelberg
[18:29] <nuvolari> en sê ek verlang
[18:30] <kbmonkey> ek sal die dassies groete stuur van durbs af!
[18:30] <Kilos> good lad , python rocks
[18:30] <nuvolari> Kilos: if it wasnt for java, you did not have any coffee from Maaz :P
[18:31] <nuvolari> maar laat ons nou nie 'n geveg oopkrap nie
[18:31] <nuvolari> :P
[18:31] <Kilos> lol i love my java
[18:31] <Kilos> with cremora and milk
[18:34] <kbmonkey> ha ha!
[18:34] <kbmonkey> yup java is tops too, but I'll leave that to the experts ;)
[18:34] <Kilos> kbmonkey, you gotta get things together for lpi hey
[18:34] <Kilos> no loafing
[18:34]  * nuvolari hides before oom Kilos does more pointing
[18:35] <kbmonkey> i know Kilos! I'm trying to learn python somewhat so I can secure a job too 
[18:35] <Kilos> hehe
[18:35] <Kilos> good lad
[18:35] <Kilos> not too much holidaying and site seeing
[18:36] <nuvolari> :-/ I had F(r)U(stratio)N today learning how to work with apache lucene
[18:37] <Kilos> indian fodder
[18:37] <zeref> hurrrmmmm
[18:37] <Kilos> hey zeref 
[18:37] <zeref> hi Kilos
[18:38] <nuvolari> o hi zeref 
[18:38]  * nuvolari waves
[18:38] <zeref> Hi :-)
[18:38] <kbmonkey> zeref o\
[18:38] <zeref> i understand nuvolari i spend the whole day trying to install an aaplication on amazon linux
[18:38] <zeref> hi kbmonkey :-D
[18:39] <Kilos> nuvolari, do you know if one kan go to google and setup that site goodie with elinks
[18:39] <Kilos> or maybe the monkey knows
[18:39] <nuvolari> Kilos: hmm, will check quick oom
[18:39] <Kilos> he uses elinks
[18:39] <kbmonkey> i do :D
[18:39] <kbmonkey> what site goodie?
[18:40] <Kilos> nuvolari, tell him
[18:40] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: just plain google sites
[18:40] <kbmonkey> een ding van die kaap, die vrugte is so lekker!
[18:40] <nuvolari> *GoogleSites
[18:40] <kbmonkey> ah,
[18:40] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: *en* die wyn
[18:40] <kbmonkey> wyn++
[18:40] <kbmonkey> WINE
[18:40] <nuvolari> Kilos: it works oom
[18:40] <Kilos> lol
[18:41] <Kilos> yay i will try it then
[18:41] <Kilos> maybe
[18:41] <Kilos> my google is full
[18:41] <kbmonkey> haven't  tried google sites with elinks yet, should do, sites uses very simple styling, not much javascript or any flash
[18:41] <Kilos> gamil
[18:41] <Kilos> gmail
[18:41] <kbmonkey> your gmail is full? wow. yes i sit on 40% myself
[18:42] <Kilos> need to clear all the mail one day
[18:43] <Kilos> it eats data just to go there with ff or epiphany
[18:43] <kbmonkey> you want to make a site Kilos ?
[18:43] <Kilos> yeah so tara can put her songs there for me to wget
[18:43] <kbmonkey> I use elinks with my gmail now, the basic html gmail version, works good
[18:44] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: you should check out pine
[18:44] <nuvolari> there was something else, can't remember now
[18:44] <nuvolari> ah, alpine
[18:44] <nuvolari> :P
[18:45] <kbmonkey> sorry your net got eaten Kilos :/
[18:45] <Kilos> huh?
[18:45] <kbmonkey> ah thanks nuvolari! I tried mutt but couldn't figure out how to get my email into it :p
[18:46] <kbmonkey> i use a text music player, file manager and web browser now. lol
[18:46] <nuvolari> yeah... mutt. 'nuff said.
[18:46] <Kilos> saw an add on tv tonight. 8ta 3g data for R149
[18:46] <kbmonkey> 8ta?
[18:46] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: what file browser? (you actually use a text file browser? what's wrong with ls? :P)
[18:46] <Kilos> telkom broadband
[18:46] <kbmonkey> ha ha!
[18:46] <kbmonkey> mc
[18:47] <Kilos> and starter packs for 99c at checkers
[18:47] <kbmonkey> err, this wifi is hard to tell how much data I have left
[18:49] <Kilos> nursing data really sucks
[18:49] <kbmonkey> installing alpine, if i DC i ran out :D
[18:49] <Kilos> lol
[18:49] <kbmonkey> each time I need to reset my wifi as their portal site stops working when that happens. weird
[18:51] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: just need to figure out how to set up alpine with google authentication (application-specific passwords)
[18:52] <kbmonkey> doing that now, let's ask google
[18:53] <kbmonkey> Kilos if you want to get files, dropbox might be better
[18:53] <Kilos> where is that thing
[18:54] <Kilos> sure i saw something like that in my evolution
[18:54] <kbmonkey> and each site has a limit of 100MB
[18:54] <Kilos> some box
[18:54] <Kilos> said save to that box but didnt work
[18:54] <kbmonkey> dropbox is a website where you can 'drop' your files to share
[18:55] <kbmonkey> dropbox is similar to ubuntu one
[18:55] <Kilos> oh
[18:55] <Kilos> then its browser to get there
[18:56] <Kilos> i just need a place to wget the odd song from my brat
[18:56] <kbmonkey> not neccesary
[18:56] <kbmonkey> tara will use the site to setup an account, then give you the link which you can still wget
[18:57] <kbmonkey> any files you put in the "Public" folder in dropbox, has a link you can give your friends. It is a direct link to the file, so wget works
[18:57] <Kilos> lol she fulla like her mother
[18:57] <nuvolari> dropbog, googlesitebox, some diff :P
[18:58] <nuvolari> (wget included)
[18:58] <nuvolari> hmm. wonder how well google+ will handle that?
[18:59] <nuvolari> they talk about videos, but I wonder if they support audio
[18:59] <Kilos> and she a youtube fool so will be hard to convince her otherwise but i will try
[18:59]  * nuvolari tests
[18:59] <Kilos> google+ also eats data
[18:59] <nuvolari> Kilos: tell her youtube is not from google
[18:59] <Kilos> she isnt a google fan
[18:59] <kbmonkey> google owns youtube now
[19:00] <Kilos> i got her to open her gmail account
[19:00] <Kilos> ah
[19:00]  * Kilos hates youtube
[19:01] <Kilos> its like watching some mongrel eating your rump steak
[19:02] <kbmonkey> lol Kilos !
[19:04] <Kilos> inetpro, lewe jy nog
[19:05] <Kilos> kbmonkey, must you use a soecial command to get elinks working to set up a site at gmail
[19:06] <Kilos> do you actually log into gmail or just google
[19:06] <kbmonkey> when you logged into google, at the top are links, one called "Sites"
[19:06] <kbmonkey> or go to sites.google.com
[19:07] <Kilos> you see that in elinks?
[19:07] <nuvolari> whoot! got my alpine working
[19:07] <kbmonkey> I typed that into elinks yes
[19:07] <Kilos> what is alpine nuvolari 
[19:08] <nuvolari> Kilos: a text email client oom
[19:08] <Kilos> ah ty
[19:08] <Kilos> surely with http:// in front hey
[19:09] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: I got the good stuff if you want some :P
[19:09] <nuvolari> pretty standard alpine setup, and found out how to make it remember your password
[19:09] <kbmonkey> i set mine up, seems to take, but how to I retrieve email? lol
[19:10] <kbmonkey> yes if you have a link please :D
[19:10] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: how did you set it up? I use imap
[19:10] <nuvolari> there's nothing special, just select the folder list
[19:10] <kbmonkey> imap
[19:10] <Kilos> i could never get imap working
[19:10] <nuvolari> well, it's showing everything from my inbox, I did not figure out how to reach different labels yet :P
[19:11] <kbmonkey> woot it sent an email!
[19:11] <Kilos> use that other thing
[19:11] <Kilos> pop
[19:11] <kbmonkey> need to find out how to import my address book
[19:11] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: http://scienceblogs.com/gregladen/2009/10/do_you_want_the_alpine_email_c.php
[19:12] <nuvolari> for passwords ^^
[19:13] <kbmonkey> thanks!
[19:14] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: http://studioshorts.com/blog/2009/11/using-alpine-to-check-your-emailgmail-in-linux-terminal/ going to try this for labels
[19:15] <kbmonkey> you move fast, I still can't see my inbox :p
[19:16] <Kilos> grr cant even login to tgoogle sites with elinks
[19:16] <kbmonkey> I'm logged in Kilos 
[19:17] <Kilos> you know where you scroll down to sign in  and type in mail addrsss and password
[19:17] <Kilos> cant get even to password
[19:18] <kbmonkey> that's not right
[19:18] <nuvolari> bah :-/ kbmonkey what username/password do I use for sending mail? Think I'm missing something :P not the same credentials as for fetching mail
[19:19] <Kilos> where it say email i start typing msdomdonner and it open a little line with autho goody first
[19:19] <kbmonkey> Kilos does your typing enter into the box, press enter first to focus it?
[19:20] <Kilos> oh sec i see
[19:20] <Kilos> w00t that works
[19:20] <kbmonkey> nuvolari you enter Menu Setup Config and go down to SMTP
[19:20] <Kilos> ty
[19:21] <kbmonkey> and enter: smtp.gmail.com:587/tls/user=your-gmail-address@gmail.com
[19:21] <nuvolari> whoops, need to change my signature :P
[19:21] <Kilos> now it asks for my mobile fone number
[19:21] <Kilos> grrrr
[19:22] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: I figured it needs the application-specific password again
[19:22] <nuvolari> so it's worknig now
[19:22] <kbmonkey> skip that Kilos its just their security update thingy
[19:22] <kbmonkey> app specific password?
[19:23] <kbmonkey> ha ha it was working all along nuvolari, I just didnt realize I can Enter on the mailbox :p
[19:24] <kbmonkey> labels and all
[19:24] <Kilos> now it wants to open evince%
[19:24] <Kilos> grrr
[19:24] <Kilos> when you said skip that i hit enter
[19:24] <kbmonkey> i followed this one nuvolari https://www.cs.virginia.edu/~csadmin/wiki/index.php/Settin
[19:25] <kbmonkey> but that link you sent me for the labels is the final clue
[19:26] <Kilos> found the click here to skip this step
[19:26] <kbmonkey> :)
[19:26] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: does your labels work?
[19:27] <kbmonkey> yes
[19:27] <nuvolari> kbmonkey: the app-specific password you need to use when you enabled 2-step verification in your google account
[19:27] <kbmonkey> but you know my link, it sets up a second mail folder, that one has labels that work, but the INBOX label shows empty :p
[19:27] <kbmonkey> ooooh
[19:28] <kbmonkey> but the Gmail/All Mail label works
[19:29] <Kilos> nuvolari, do i now scroll down to create for this google site thing
[19:29] <kbmonkey> this is too cool
[19:29] <Kilos> it shows my site
[19:30] <kbmonkey> did you create one Kilos? 
[19:30] <nuvolari> Kilos: hmm, not sure how the rest of the site stuffies work on elinks
[19:30] <Kilos> does it now want to topen a new site or is that the place for this 100m thingie
[19:31] <Kilos> no man i talking about my yola site i think its showing here
[19:32] <Kilos> lol it says mileyssite shared with everyone in the world
[19:32] <Kilos> but thats at yola no google?
[19:34] <kbmonkey> yola?
[19:34] <Kilos> cant scroll to create it goes past
[19:34] <Kilos> Maaz, kilos.site
[19:34] <Maaz> http://mileys-site.yolasite.com/
[19:35] <kbmonkey> thanks nuvolari for recommending alpine! you the best!
[19:35] <Kilos> dunno how that linked to google
[19:36] <Kilos> cant scroll to create or click it
[19:36] <Kilos> i give up now
[19:36] <Kilos> head thumping
[19:37] <Kilos> grr grr
[19:37] <kbmonkey> sjoe sounds like a problem Kilos 
[19:38] <Kilos> lol yeah they want me to use a standard browser
[19:38] <Kilos> swines
[19:38] <nuvolari> :D got my folders worknig at last :P
[19:38] <nuvolari> no problem kbmonkey 
[19:38] <nuvolari> Kilos: hang on
[19:39] <nuvolari> let me check
[19:39] <kbmonkey> via the Message [I]ndex?
[19:39] <Kilos> ok
[19:40] <nuvolari> Kilos: ok, what do yo uwant to do? I can see your site at https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite
[19:41] <kbmonkey> il look now now Kilos 
[19:41] <nuvolari> Maaz: kilos.site is http://mileys-site.yolasite.com and https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite
[19:41] <Maaz> nuvolari: I already know stuff about kilos.site
[19:41] <nuvolari> Maaz: forget about kilos.site
[19:41] <Maaz> nuvolari: I didn't know about about kilos.site anyway
[19:41] <nuvolari> Maaz: kilos.site is http://mileys-site.yolasite.com and https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite
[19:41] <Maaz> nuvolari: I already know stuff about kilos.site
[19:42] <Kilos> what site is that nuvolari 
[19:42] <Kilos> when did i create that sight al google
[19:43] <nuvolari> Kilos: long ago :P
[19:43] <Kilos> is that a 100m site
[19:43] <Kilos> oh my
[19:43] <Kilos> pissed again
[19:43] <nuvolari> it says posted june 23, 2010
[19:43] <Kilos> too much coffee\
[19:43] <Kilos> wow
[19:43] <nuvolari> by you oom Kilos :P
[19:43] <Kilos> but cant be anything in it
[19:44] <Kilos> ok so,is that a 100m one
[19:44] <Kilos> or another website
[19:44] <nuvolari> Kilos: it's that one
[19:44] <nuvolari> the 100mb one
[19:45] <Kilos> oh are they not a new thing
[19:45] <nuvolari> how do you mean?
[19:45] <Kilos> well thats last year already
[19:45] <Kilos> is that what i must use to get tara to post songs to
[19:47] <nuvolari> Kilos: well, that is your personal one
[19:47] <nuvolari> the ideal would be that she creates her own, then give you the link to download
[19:47] <nuvolari> otherwise you can give her permission to post to your site
[19:47] <Kilos> oh cant you post to my one
[19:47] <Kilos> lol thats what i mean
[19:48] <nuvolari> ye, you just need to, say, create a special page which only certain people can see
[19:48] <nuvolari> and then allow her to modify that page
[19:48] <nuvolari> because as it is now, anyone can view stuff
[19:48] <Kilos> eish
[19:49] <Kilos> i stuck in the help and dunno how to go back
[19:50] <Kilos> thats fine if its music from her. i dont mind sharing then i dont have to give youtube links to evryone
[19:50] <nuvolari> cool
[19:50] <nuvolari> but you still need to give her permission 
[19:50] <Kilos> but how do i get out of the help and go back
[19:50] <nuvolari> hmm
[19:50] <nuvolari> Kilos: in elinks?
[19:51] <Kilos> and how do i give permission to her and yous
[19:51] <Kilos> yip in elinks
[19:51] <nuvolari> doesn't it go back when you press left-arrow?
[19:51] <Kilos> sec
[19:51] <Kilos> ja slim seun
[19:52] <Kilos> now how do i give permissions
[19:52] <bakuman> 0_0
[19:52] <Kilos> hi bakuman 
[19:52] <bakuman> hi Kilos :)
[19:53] <Kilos> ender hehe i membered
[19:53] <bakuman> haha yea, damn, cant get a thing past you :)
[19:53] <Kilos> lol thats because its not 24 hours yet
[19:54] <nuvolari> Kilos: hmm, gimme a sec, need to check
[19:54] <Kilos> k
[19:56] <nuvolari> google rocks
[19:56] <Kilos> i need to give you two and the fly and gussie permissions for now
[19:56] <nuvolari> and if my phone decides to get a life, I can verify myself :P
[19:56] <Kilos> are you using elinks nuvolari 
[19:56] <Kilos> lol
[19:56] <nuvolari> ye oom, I need to be able to tell you if it's possible :P
[19:56] <nuvolari> *using elinks
[19:56] <Kilos> i dont get mail to fone as well
[19:57] <Kilos> dankie seun
[19:57] <nuvolari> I don't believe it. 
[19:58] <Kilos> im at 992k data so gotta do it without too much hunting
[19:58] <nuvolari> they are awesome
[19:58] <Kilos> lol waht
[19:58] <nuvolari> I colud log in
[19:59] <nuvolari> *could
[20:00] <nuvolari> ag no :-/
[20:00] <kbmonkey> sorry guys ill see you laters :)
[20:00] <nuvolari> Kilos: it looks like you'll need to use a normal browser just to enable the permissions
[20:00] <nuvolari> cheers kbmonkey 
[20:00] <Kilos> toods kbmonkey 
[20:00] <nuvolari> happy alpining
[20:00] <nuvolari> :P
[20:00] <Kilos> eish
[20:00] <bakuman> so what are you guys doing?
[20:01] <nuvolari> Kilos: the permissions link is not clickable in elinks :-/
[20:01] <nuvolari> bakuman: helping uncle Kilos to get his site going
[20:01] <bakuman> oe... is there something up yet?
[20:01] <Kilos> in elinks browser bakuman 
[20:03] <bakuman> why on elinks?
[20:04] <Kilos> to save data bakuman 
[20:04] <Kilos> ver limited here
[20:05] <Kilos> 2m per day
[20:05] <bakuman> im not exactly with you. are you trying to view your own site with elinks, or make it elinks friendly so other people can use it?
[20:08] <Kilos> i need to use elinks to go there cause a normal browser eats data
[20:08] <bakuman> ah, is it easier thank using lynx? cause that could also work
[20:08] <Kilos> and i need to set my site there to get music from my daughter so i can wget it and not need to go to youtube
[20:09] <bakuman> cool
[20:10] <Kilos> have you heard her sing bakuman 
[20:10] <bakuman> would not know who she is
[20:10] <Kilos> can you go youtube
[20:10] <bakuman> yea
[20:11] <Kilos> sec i look for the link
[20:14] <Kilos> eish i lost it somewhere i ask nuvolari 
[20:14] <Kilos> nuvolari, do you have tara's youtube link please
[20:15] <nuvolari> hmm, need to have a look, hang on
[20:15] <Kilos> i lose things day to day
[20:15] <Kilos> sorry bakuman 
[20:21] <bakuman> haha its fine :)
[20:21] <Kilos> she is in aus
[20:21] <Kilos> never met her yet
[20:22] <Kilos> we met on facebook near 2 years ago for the first time
[20:24] <bakuman> ah cool :)
[20:28] <Kilos> bakuman, i think this is it
[20:28] <Kilos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmLemlIDCl0
[20:28] <Kilos> had to plug in external to find it
[20:29] <Kilos> the song to watch is I will always love you in the xfactor audition
[20:31] <Kilos> http://saveyoutube.com/watch?v=dXP2GdqYCOM
[20:31] <Kilos> or that one maybe bakuman 
[20:31] <Kilos> i get lost
[20:32] <Kilos> if you have cap probs wait for nuvolari to verify
[20:32] <bakuman> haha ok :)
[20:33] <Kilos> youtube isnt shy to use data
[20:33] <Kilos> its for adsl uncapped peeps
[20:33] <nuvolari> Maaz: tara.link
[20:33] <Maaz> nuvolari: Huh?
[20:34] <nuvolari> :?
[20:34] <nuvolari> Maaz: tara.link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmLemlIDCl0
[20:34] <Maaz> nuvolari: I'll remember that
[20:34] <Kilos> ty nuvolari 
[20:37] <Kilos> bakuman, ^^
[20:37] <Kilos> zeref, you seen my brat?
[20:44] <zeref> brat??
[20:44] <zeref> oh
[20:44] <zeref> ummmmm, no
[20:45] <Kilos> you havent got data probs hey
[20:45] <Kilos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmLemlIDCl0
[20:45] <bakuman> telkom 8gb
[20:46] <bakuman> have 500mb for last few days
[20:46] <Kilos> eish
[20:47] <superfly> too much backlog to read this late at night
[20:47] <bakuman> haha
[20:47] <Kilos> lol
[20:47] <Kilos> hiya fly
[20:47] <Kilos> you free now
[20:47] <Kilos> or work tomorrow
[20:48] <superfly> Kilos: free, today was my last day
[20:49] <Kilos> yay
[20:49] <bakuman> i still have 1 hectic week lest
[20:49] <bakuman> *left
[20:50] <Kilos> thats good bakuman 
[20:51] <bakuman> wrote today, report monday, presentation wednesday
[20:51] <bakuman> lol, top comment: She can actually smile and﻿ sing at the same time
[20:52] <Kilos> lol
[20:52] <Kilos> she can sing hey
[20:52] <bakuman> yea :)
[20:53] <Kilos> she has now entered The Voice Aus as well
[20:53] <bakuman> ok, time to clean up, i was in the roof earlier, so very dusty, cheerz
[20:54] <Kilos> cheers bakuman 
[20:57] <nuvolari> Maaz: tara.link is https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/tara
[20:57] <Maaz> nuvolari: I already know stuff about tara.link
[20:57] <Kilos> lol
[20:57] <nuvolari> Maaz: forget tara.link
[20:57] <Maaz> nuvolari: Sure
[20:57] <nuvolari> Maaz: tara.link is https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/tara
[20:57] <Maaz> nuvolari: If you say so
[20:57] <nuvolari> Maaz: tara.link
[20:57] <Maaz> nuvolari: tara.link is https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite/tara
[20:57] <nuvolari> :>
[20:57] <Kilos> dankie boetie
[20:58] <nuvolari> Kilos: ^^ piekfyn
[20:58] <nuvolari> plesier oom!
[20:58] <nuvolari> oh
[20:58] <nuvolari> lol, dit was alreeds reg
[20:58] <Kilos> lol
[20:58] <zeref> sigh
[20:59] <nuvolari> o wag nee
[20:59] <nuvolari> ok. anyway. it's done
[20:59]  * nuvolari hands zeref a glass of sugar water
[20:59] <nuvolari> what's wrong za?
[20:59] <nuvolari> er, zeref 
[21:00] <Kilos> zeref, you use 8ta contract hey
[21:00] <nuvolari> Maaz: Kilos.site
[21:00] <nuvolari> Maaz: kilos.site
[21:00] <nuvolari> :?
[21:00] <Kilos> saw they doing 3g for R149
[21:00] <Maaz> http://mileys-site.yolasite.com/
[21:00] <nuvolari> maaz!
[21:01] <Maaz> http://mileys-site.yolasite.com/
[21:01] <nuvolari> ah
[21:01] <nuvolari> just being slow
[21:01] <Kilos> dunno if its contract as well or pay as you go
[21:01] <nuvolari> Maaz: forget kilos.site
[21:01] <Maaz> nuvolari: Sure
[21:01] <nuvolari> Maaz: kilos.site is http://mileys-site.yolasite.com and https://sites.google.com/site/mileyssite
[21:01] <Maaz> nuvolari: Got it
[21:01] <Kilos> well done nuvolari you are a star'
[21:02]  * nuvolari skitter
[21:02] <nuvolari> :P
[21:02] <Kilos> lol
[21:02] <nuvolari> Kilos: talking about sterre, sunday afternoon we saw Patricia Lewis on the beach :P
[21:02] <Kilos> superfly, when you going stateside
[21:03] <Kilos> she cute hey
[21:03] <Kilos> full of life
[21:03] <superfly> Kilos: we leave on Monday evening, and get there on Tuesday evening
[21:03] <nuvolari> lol if you say so oom :P
[21:03] <Kilos> enjoy every minute superfly 
[21:03] <superfly> Kilos: ek sal so probeer oom
[21:03] <Kilos> nuvolari, is she fat now?
[21:04] <nuvolari> whoot! my sis is visiting form Australia from the 29th of november
[21:04] <Kilos> yay tell her bring debs with
[21:04] <nuvolari> Kilos: nope, she's just never been my kinda woman :P
[21:04] <nuvolari> shame, my ma verlang baie
[21:04] <zeref> Kilos: no
[21:04] <Kilos> only her nose is too big and she bietjie voor op die wa
[21:05] <zeref> I'm cell c :P
[21:05] <Kilos> but thats show biz
[21:05] <nuvolari> lol? her nose? I've never noticed her nose
[21:05] <zeref> nuvolari: being compiling a program and fixing errors the whole day
[21:05] <Kilos> lol
[21:06] <Kilos> jy is stout
[21:06] <Kilos> waar kyk jy dan
[21:06] <Kilos> hehe
[21:09] <superfly> nuvolari: does she have as much cleavage in real life? it's about the only thing you see when you google for "patricia lewis"...
[21:09] <superfly> :-P
[21:09] <Kilos> lol
[21:09] <Kilos> whew
[21:09] <Kilos> you naughty too
[21:09] <Kilos> look at her nose
[21:09] <Kilos> she is breast feeding a baby
[21:10] <superfly> Kilos: no, I just couldn't remember what she looks like, so I googled for her
[21:10] <Kilos> ya ya
[21:10] <superfly> and oom, breastfeeding has nothing to do with the size of a woman's bosom
[21:10] <Kilos> oh yes
[21:10] <Kilos> the get full
[21:10] <Kilos> they
[21:11] <Kilos> but she has always been well endowed
[21:11] <Kilos> cant bump her nose against the wall
[21:12] <Kilos> eish look at the time
[21:12] <Kilos> no wonder i am swaying onna chair
[21:12] <Kilos> night all. sleep tight
[21:12] <Kilos> see ya morrow
[21:15] <nuvolari> bwahahaha superfly 
[21:15] <superfly> nuvolari: ?
[21:15] <nuvolari> well, nothing popped out, that I noticed
[21:15] <superfly> hahahaha
[21:16] <nuvolari> she and her hubby and the kid was out for a walk along the beach, so no bathing suit
[21:16] <superfly> nuvolari: she wears plenty form-fitting, low-cut dresses from what I see on teh Google
[21:17] <nuvolari> superfly: ya, especially for her shows
[21:17] <nuvolari> but I guess that's to take people's attention off her brain :P
[21:18] <nuvolari> I don't think there is too much in there
[21:18] <nuvolari> but I might just get in trouble for saying that
[21:18] <superfly> hahaha
[21:18]  * nuvolari rather keeps quiet
[21:20] <nuvolari> ok, bedtime
[21:20]  * nuvolari out
[21:20] <superfly> me too
[21:20] <nuvolari> o/
[21:20] <nuvolari> night superfly 
[21:20] <superfly> night nuvolari
[21:20] <superfly> don't be so much of a stranger
[21:21] <nuvolari> :-/ Can't promise much. Tough weekend ahead and work coming out of my ears