[01:28] <ScottL> lightdm is funny between my laptop and my desktop
[01:28] <ScottL> laptop i used the 11.10 disk and the lightdm is kinda ugly
[01:29] <ScottL> desktop i had 11.04 installed and upgraded to 11.10 and the lightdm is kinda pretty
[01:29] <Unit193> Xubuntu 11.10 final?
[01:29] <ScottL> i believe so Unit193 
[01:30] <ScottL> i thought i also looked at the lidhtdm package and it only had a single upload (i could be wrong)
[01:30] <Unit193> Can you dpkg -l |grep lightdm  on both?
[01:30] <ScottL> sure...i'll do laptop right now ('ats where i'm at)
[01:31] <ScottL> ii  liblightdm-gobject-1-0                 1.0.1-0ubuntu6                          LightDM GObject client library
[01:31] <ScottL> ii  lightdm                                1.0.1-0ubuntu6                          Display Manager
[01:31] <ScottL> ii  lightdm-gtk-greeter                    1.0.1-0ubuntu6                          LightDM GTK+ Greeter
[01:31] <ScottL> okay, moving upstairs, give me a moment (or maybe 1.5386th of a moment)
[01:32] <Unit193> Heh, nice
[01:33] <scott-upstairs> Unit193, what was that command?  dpkg -l | grep lightdm   ?
[01:33] <Unit193> Yep
[01:33] <scott-upstairs> ii  liblightdm-gobject-1-0                 1.0.1-0ubuntu6                             LightDM GObject client library
[01:33] <scott-upstairs> ii  lightdm                                1.0.1-0ubuntu6                             Display Manager
[01:33] <scott-upstairs> ii  lightdm-gtk-greeter                    1.0.1-0ubuntu6                             LightDM GTK+ Greeter
[01:34] <scott-upstairs> when i updated the desktop (one i'm on now) it gave me a choice between dgm and lightdm
[01:34] <scott-upstairs> don't know if that is usefull or not
[01:34]  * scott-upstairs is going downstairs so i can compare my results
[01:35] <ScottL> hmmm, that looks like the same
[01:35] <Unit193> Same version
[01:35] <ScottL> you want i should take a picture of the different lightdm screens?
[01:35] <ScottL> i can reboot and give you pictures
[01:36] <Unit193> lightdm --test-mode   is all you'd need really
[01:38] <ScottL> says i need Xephyr...finding it and installing it
[01:38] <Unit193> Well, I'm not sure what I can tell you after that
[01:40] <ScottL> okay, here's the not-so-pretty one:  http://imagebin.org/181178
[01:42] <Unit193> Sadly, that's the default :/
[01:43] <Unit193> I don't know what you'd have with the nice one, but I wouldn't think it's the Unity one
[01:43] <scott-upstairs> it looks like what i remember the unity one looked like
[01:43] <scott-upstairs> almost done
[01:43] <scott-upstairs> http://imagebin.org/181179
[01:44]  * scott-upstairs and ScottL are going to play with son before bed time (for him)
[01:44] <Unit193> That's half Untiy
[01:44] <Unit193> Ok, sorry I couldn't help really. You may be able to install the unity greeter though :P
[01:45] <ScottL> that's okay, i thought maybe my laptop was something wrong
[10:24] <mr_pouit> ScottL: you first screenshot is lightdm-gtk-greeter with greybird (it looks like that in xubuntu), and the second one is the unity greeter
[10:25] <madnick> http://www.madnick.se/~madnick/upandrunning.png
[10:25] <madnick> :)
[10:28] <madnick> Onboard wont work
[10:28] <madnick> no window manager to make it movable
[10:46] <ochosi> hey everyone, i just quickly wanted to share something i stumbled across today
[10:47] <ochosi> it's customized xubuntu and there could be some interesting elements we'd like to pick up there
[10:47] <ochosi> http://voyager.legtux.org/
[10:47] <ochosi> (it's in french, but there's a video of it in action)
[10:47] <ochosi> and if you don't understand french, ask mr_pouit – i'm sure he's got nothing better to do ;)
[10:51] <ochosi> ok, i'm off again, see you!
[11:10] <knome> ochosi, can you elaborate a bit more when you get back - what is what you think we could copy?
[11:22] <madnick> knome: the greeter we worked on last release, is the graphical profile for that still acceptable?
[14:16] <knome> madnick, yup
[15:44] <knome> GridCube, welcome :P
[15:45] <GridCube> knome: :D thank you
[15:46] <knome> i think we should create a "developer resources" page at xubuntu.org when we get to release the new website
[15:46] <knome> with links to release schedule, wiki, LP bugs, etc.
[15:47] <knome> and the iso reports too
[15:47] <GridCube> :) that would be nice
[15:48] <knome> GridCube, in "daily online reporting system", would you report "onlines" ?:P
[15:48] <GridCube> one thing i would like to add to the reporting interface is a dynamic "this are the bugs that are bothering us now" so when you are reporting you can actually test those bugs to see if they still happen or no
[15:48] <knome> daily reporting system online rather
[15:49] <knome> why not
[15:49] <knome> would those be pulled from LP directly (any bugs with tag something-unique) ?
[15:49] <GridCube> :P oh well my mind think in spañish
[15:49] <GridCube> i think it should pull them from the reports
[15:49] <knome> but i think daily iso reporting system is way more descriptive
[15:49] <knome> right...
[15:50] <GridCube> :D i think its good too, but you said it could turn into any kind of reporting
[15:50] <GridCube> :P
[15:50] <knome> yeah
[15:50] <knome> if you do, rename the project to something completely different then
[15:50] <GridCube> Daily Testings Results Reporting System :P
[15:50] <knome> like, "the fox in your armpit"
[15:51] <GridCube> hahaha
[15:51] <madnick> mr_pouit: for this system, LGPL vs GPL?
[15:51] <knome> feel free to select the project name yourself, but my favourite is "DIRS" :)
[15:51] <GridCube> i should say, i've used example code from the PHP manuals and help from forums
[15:51] <madnick> knome: i already registered dirs
[15:51] <madnick> hehe
[15:51] <GridCube> that would cause any problem?
[15:52] <knome> i don't think, because you probably want to rewrite most of it to enable modularity
[15:52] <GridCube> :P
[15:52] <madnick> https://launchpad.net/dirs
[15:52] <GridCube> well anyway we will changeit for sqlite
[15:53] <knome> and if it's single things, like "how does one connect to mysql server", that can't really be licensed :P
[15:53] <GridCube> :D
[15:55] <GridCube> :D good then madnick 
[15:55] <GridCube> i like that name
[15:55] <madnick> Now we need to send the mail to devel
[15:55] <knome> you could set xubuntu website team as the driver for the project for now
[15:56] <madnick> okay
[15:56] <madnick> :)
[15:56] <knome> (if you think the website team should drive the development ;))
[15:56] <madnick> :D
[15:57] <madnick> I'm very tired, as I got up very early, question is if I should work out the -devel email tonight or tomorrow when im more clear
[15:57] <madnick> GridCube: when do you get online tomorrow?
[15:57] <GridCube> oh ...
[15:58] <GridCube> tomorrow is saturday, no work, have to visit a library to desing an automation system for it, so... say 17:00GTM-3¿?
[15:58] <madnick> okay :)
[15:58] <knome> madnick, whatever suites you best. you can just send a real quick email today, and send an another today explaining the stuff more
[15:59] <madnick> true
[15:59] <madnick> I wanted to make a spec before acctually submitting, so that we can get some input
[15:59] <GridCube> you could point them to our current interface
[15:59] <GridCube> :P
[16:00] <madnick> yeah
[16:00] <GridCube> saying this is alpha 0.03
[16:00] <knome> or, you can just write the mail when you are ready
[16:01] <madnick> :P
[16:01] <knome> no rush
[16:14] <knome> you know what would be a good name for the project?
[16:14] <knome> marathon, becuase (iso) testing/reporting is not something you want/should do for only a short time
[16:15] <madnick> :)
[16:16] <madnick> I bet thats taken
[16:16] <knome> marathon-rs
[16:16] <knome> rs for reporting system
[16:17] <madnick> true, it is a good name
[16:17] <knome> or marathon-reports
[16:18] <madnick> "rs" sounds better
[16:18] <madnick> i think
[16:18] <knome> heh
[16:18] <madnick> knome: i can indeed change the project name, but i cannot change "dirs" from the url :(
[16:18] <knome> but that's not so different from -rs, if that's an issue
[16:19] <knome> err, marathon-rs is not so different from marathon
[16:20] <madnick> not a problem however, it will appear as marathon-rs
[16:20] <knome> or you can just remove the project
[16:20] <knome> and create new
[16:20] <knome> :P
[16:20] <madnick> haha
[16:21] <knome> well, no harm done yet really
[16:21] <knome> nothing you should worry of losing
[16:21] <madnick> im just a bit confused why i cannot change that
[16:21] <madnick> it would be a trival thing for them to implement
[16:22] <knome> don't know
[16:22] <knome> maybe they don't want people to lose the urls/get confused when a project name changes
[16:24] <madnick> knome: no worries, the admins can do it for me
[16:24] <madnick> it says on there
[16:24] <knome> hehe
[16:24] <knome> meh, i should assemble an ikea shelf
[16:24] <madnick> billy? :D
[16:25] <knome> almost
[16:25] <knome> benno (that's the cd shelf for the billy series)
[16:25] <madnick> oh
[16:25] <knome> it's the 6th we'll have :PP
[16:25] <knome> i have a narrow billy shelf too
[16:25] <knome> i can't even get that filled :(
[16:26] <madnick> i got an ikea bed just a couple of weeks ago, took me 2 hours to assemble it
[16:26] <knome> lol
[16:26] <madnick> then i noticed that, i couldve just got the matrass
[16:26] <knome> we actually bought a spare part for our ikea bed too :P
[16:27] <knome> in double-beds they have this very light metal bar in the middle
[16:27] <knome> to hold the wooden bars
[16:27] <knome> well, the metal teared and bended
[16:27] <madnick> oh, my bed is like 2 metal bars on the sides and one in the middle
[16:27] <knome> of course
[16:27] <knome> yeah
[16:27] <knome> it's wider in the middle?
[16:27] <madnick> yes
[16:27] <knome> that's what got borked :P
[16:28] <madnick> :o
[16:28] <knome> yeah
[16:28] <knome> there's the taps in the ends?
[16:28] <knome> to hold the wooden bars
[16:28] <madnick> yes
[16:28] <madnick> you like just put it there
[16:28] <madnick> not attached
[16:28] <knome> between those taps and the wall
[16:28] <knome> the metal said "RRRRRIP"
[16:28] <knome> too much weight to that spot
[16:28] <madnick> now im gonna be scared to sleep :D
[16:28] <knome> lol
[16:29] <knome> it won't drop you
[16:29] <knome> it just makes the bed wind in the middle if it rips :P
[16:29] <knome> AND THAT SUCKS
[16:29] <madnick> indeed
[16:29] <knome> sleeping on a slanted  base... BAH
[16:30] <knome> but yeah, i fixed that today with the spare part :P
[16:30] <knome> 16e for the spare part
[16:30] <knome> did i already say that? :P
[16:30] <madnick> nope
[16:30] <GridCube> XD
[16:30] <knome> yup
[16:30] <GridCube> ikea
[16:30] <knome> not too much really
[16:30] <GridCube> XD
[16:30] <GridCube> here in argentina we buy stuff thats already done :P
[16:30] <knome> GridCube, none of the other stores had a bed with as simple design (we wanted really plain)
[16:31] <madnick> when i came home and realized that the matrass is basically the bed, i got mad for spending 400 euro on the frame itself
[16:31] <GridCube> :P yes, a lot of those
[16:31] <knome> GridCube, you're free to buy that here too, but it's 2 or more times expensive
[16:31] <knome> madnick, lol :D
[16:31] <GridCube> :o
[16:31] <knome> ikea is really cheap
[16:31] <knome> you don't get sad if you break something
[16:31] <knome> you just buy a new one
[16:32] <GridCube> yes, thats capitalism for you
[16:32] <GridCube> XD
[16:32] <knome> yup :P
[16:32] <GridCube> so well, what should learn?
[16:32] <knome> of course i'd rather buy quality stuff for a more expensive price...
[16:32] <GridCube> sqlite?
[16:33] <knome> but from my experiences, it's not any better quality, and you just get sad when it breaks :(
[16:33] <GridCube> knome: do you know the Vimes Theory Of Really Cheap Boots?
[16:33] <knome> no
[16:33] <knome> (this starts to be offtopic, just as we moved our discussion here :P)
[16:33] <GridCube> :P Vimes is a character on the discworld books of terry pratchett
[16:33] <GridCube> oh yes
[16:33] <GridCube> sorry
[16:33] <GridCube> XD
[16:33] <knome> i don't read fantasy or scifi at all
[16:33] <knome> np :P
[16:34] <knome> I'M THE KING
[16:34] <GridCube> hahaha
[16:34] <GridCube> XD
[16:34] <knome> anyway, about sqlite..
[16:34] <knome> if you want it to be light, sqlite can be a good choice
[16:34] <knome> you probably should discuss about it with madnick
[16:35] <knome> if he has a vision for the project
[16:35] <knome> sqlite might also be a bad choice, if you want to build something really heavy
[16:35] <GridCube> http://wiki.lspace.org/wiki/Sam_Vimes_Theory_of_Economic_Injustice            http://cartermagna.blogspot.com/2009/09/captain-samuel-vimes-boots-theory-of.html
[16:35] <knome> (database abstraction ftw, but that's outside the scope of this project)
[16:36] <GridCube> knome: the thing is, i don't think the database would be soooo big
[16:36] <GridCube> i mean, its pretty simple stuff
[16:37] <GridCube> FAIL/PASS, BUG, NICKS 
[16:37] <knome> depends on what you want to pull out from it
[16:37] <GridCube> thats about ti
[16:37] <madnick> Well, its also the factor of: not requiring any mysql server
[16:37] <madnick> And being redistributable
[16:37] <GridCube> yes
[16:37] <knome> and what's the scale
[16:37] <knome> 1000 reporters?
[16:37] <knome> 10000 reports per day?
[16:37] <knome> you don't want sqlite...
[16:37] <GridCube> D: if we ever get to that!
[16:38] <GridCube> with luck we have 50 reportes and 10 reports a day
[16:38] <knome> i wasn't talking about xubuntu, i was talking about any of the other stuff people might use the project for
[16:39] <GridCube> oh
[16:39] <GridCube> i see
[16:39] <knome> meh. going to assemble the shelf now
[16:39] <knome> more or less afk for a moment ->
[16:39] <GridCube> well maybe porting it from sqlite to mysql isnt that hard
[16:39] <madnick> Well, we could make an "installer"
[16:39] <madnick> web based
[16:40] <madnick> That allows you to pick
[16:40] <GridCube> and choose what database to use :)
[16:40] <madnick> yeah
[16:40] <GridCube> i was thinking about that too
[16:40] <madnick> or atleast
[16:40] <GridCube> but then we should code twice?
[16:40] <madnick> MySQL vs SQLite
[16:41] <madnick> Well
[16:41] <madnick> We might not need to, there is libs for that
[16:41] <madnick> But if we choose to
[16:41] <madnick> i guess we could, if its only SQLite and MySQL
[16:42] <GridCube> yes i think we should keep on those too
[16:42] <GridCube> s/too/two/
[16:44] <madnick> Or we could just go with MySQL, while also allowing exports
[16:45] <GridCube> :) i like that one too
[17:39] <knome> madnick, db abstraction, yeah.. :P
[17:40] <knome> madnick, i suppose there is tons of libs
[17:40] <knome> madnick, even a canonical written one
[17:41] <knome> no, wait, my memory fails, it was ORM
[17:41] <knome> or is that [17:41] <knome> or ==
[17:47] <knome> cody-somerville, will you make me the owner/admin of xubuntu-users too, so i can change the branding etc. thanks! :)
[18:01] <knome> https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-art
[18:01] <knome> :P
[18:05] <genii-around> Poor GridCube has been waiting there since June
[18:06] <GridCube> :P
[18:06] <GridCube> D: that logo
[18:06] <GridCube> is so weird
[18:07] <GridCube> no really, what happened to that logo?
[18:08] <knome> lol
[18:08] <knome> it depicts "artists" :P
[18:08] <Unit193> Need to update https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-testers too :D
[18:09] <knome> yeah.
[18:10] <knome> i was actually thinking of recoloring the base logo
[18:10] <knome> for -art too
[18:10] <knome> red for testers, something else for -art
[18:10] <knome> and -web needs a color too
[18:13] <GridCube> lol i was not in that group :P
[18:14] <knome> i approved you :P
[18:22] <knome> https://launchpad.net/~knome
[18:22] <knome> now watch and be in awe
[18:22] <knome> :P
[18:22] <knome> (look at the team membership icons)
[18:23] <knome> hmm, devs need a new icon too
[18:23] <knome> cody-somerville, can you also change the owner of xubuntu-dev to team too
[20:47] <GridCube> :) knome thanks for accepting me on xubuntu-testers :P
[20:49] <knome> np
[21:15] <Unit193> scott-upstairs: Welcome back, got your greeters figured out?
[22:21] <knome> pleia2, ?
[22:39] <ochosi> knome: not sure whether there's anything we actually *want*. i'm just usually interested in how people customize xfce :)
[22:40] <ochosi> well, on second thought, the conky-stuff could be interesting. at least i remember discussions about including it by default in xubuntu during the last cycle
[22:40] <knome> yeah
[22:41] <ochosi> in fact maybe installing it by default but adding some easy switches for it might be nice
[22:42] <knome> mm-hmm
[22:42] <ochosi> oh, another thing i've been thinking about: replacing the current time-plugin by the timedate plugin. its calender-function seems like a really nice orage-replacement, especially since it always pops up in the correct/expected place
[22:42] <knome> a-ha
[22:42] <knome> i've no idea about that
[22:43] <ochosi> hm, check it out. it's really quite customizable and fine. i think the package is called xfce4-timedate-plugin
[22:44] <knome> i just have a reaaaaally plain clock
[22:44] <knome> meh, LP is slow again :)
[22:44] <ochosi> yeah, but still it might be nice to have a calendar pop up when you click it, no? :)
[22:44] <knome> i just made some modifications to our website branches, and these might be the last changes before publishing
[22:45] <knome> maybe, but i also have a moleskine calendar :P
[22:45] <ochosi> hehe
[22:45] <ochosi> me too
[22:45] <ochosi> i never use online calendars
[22:45] <knome> well yeah, i think it could be niceish
[22:45] <ochosi> hmm, already looking forward to the new website
[22:45] <knome> agreed, except "-online" :P
[22:45] <ochosi> can't believe it's finally happening :)
[22:46] <knome> me neither.
[22:46] <knome> though it take some time to get the last pull and push to porduction
[22:46] <knome> we've been waiting a week with ubuntu studio to get any reply
[22:46] <knome> (we've just asked if we could get staging)
[22:46] <knome> i think we'll do as much of the development on private servers as possible this time
[22:47] <ochosi> pff, seems you're high on the list of priorities
[22:47] <knome> then push once, and check if anything breask
[22:47] <knome> *breaks
[22:47] <knome> haha
[22:47] <GridCube> ochosi, :P could i bothehr you on a newer albatros theme?
[22:47] <knome> ochosi, btw, did you notice the new xubuntu-related team icons in LP? :)
[22:48]  * knome hides
[22:48] <ochosi> knome: not really, haven't had any time to look at lp lately
[22:48] <knome> well i did that today
[22:48] <ochosi> GridCube: yeah, i hope i'll get down to that at some point
[22:48] <knome> ochosi, look at https://launchpad.net/~knome
[22:48]  * ochosi thinks he should start to do todo-lists again
[22:48] <knome> ochosi, i still need to fix -dev
[22:49] <ochosi> so you've given them all different shades of blue :p
[22:49] <knome> yeah1
[22:49] <knome> !
[22:49] <knome> isn't that great
[22:49] <GridCube> ochosi, wanna see my desktop :D?
[22:50] <ochosi> GridCube: sure, go ahead
[22:50] <knome> ochosi, think how cool https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit will be !
[22:50] <ochosi> knome: i've no clue what it was before :)
[22:50] <knome> ochosi, just some random icons
[22:50] <ochosi> knome: haha, xubuntu-dev really scales well
[22:50] <knome> yeah, "well"
[22:50] <knome> even the logo-size is kind of.. ugly
[22:51] <knome> with the old logo, with the "shine" style
[22:51] <ochosi> yeah
[22:51] <ochosi> lionel has a shitload of karma
[22:51] <knome> not as much as ~mvo :(
[22:52] <ochosi> true
[22:54] <GridCube> http://imagebin.org/181309
[22:54] <GridCube> :D
[22:54] <knome> bah, how can it be you have 63 more karma than me?
[22:54] <knome> :P
[22:55] <ochosi> GridCube: looks nice
[22:55] <GridCube> :D
[22:55] <beardygnome> looks good GridCube
[22:55] <ochosi> i've started to use a semi-transparent panel lately
[22:55] <GridCube> :D thank you
[22:55] <ochosi> black and semi-transparent
[22:55] <beardygnome> what is in the launcher that you have open?
[22:55] <knome> not as good as mine!! http://temp.knome.fi/other/shot-20111028.png
[22:55] <GridCube> its just slightly transparent
[22:55] <GridCube> beardygnome, my pseudo-places
[22:56] <ochosi> knome: yeah, i like yours a lot ;)
[22:56] <beardygnome> are they just custom launchers then?
[22:56] <beardygnome> knome: how wide is your desktop?!
[22:56] <knome> ochosi, yeah. note the album covers :)
[22:56] <knome> beardygnome, 3840 pixels
[22:57] <knome> beardygnome, two widescreen 24"'s
[22:57] <GridCube> beardygnome, https://plus.google.com/u/0/104777644685667373488/posts/jPyhGpMGTcM
[22:57] <GridCube> yes basically
[22:57] <ochosi> knome: you should use our ppa for gmb ;)
[22:57] <knome> probably
[22:57] <beardygnome> GridCube: is it conky that provides the weather for you?
[22:57] <knome> beardygnome, http://www.flickr.com/photos/emunkki/3707110680/
[22:57] <GridCube> no, screenlets
[22:58] <ochosi> knome: the songtree looks nicer with it
[22:58] <knome> heh
[22:58] <knome> i think it's the only time i've had so much icons
[22:58] <knome> (re: flickr)
[22:58] <knome> funny how it ended up in a photo
[22:58] <knome> also note... same panel layout as now, with bluebird :))
[22:59] <ochosi> btw, "we" (as in: you) should do a new wallpaper for the next release
[22:59] <beardygnome> GridCube: what's wrong with the actual places menu?
[22:59] <GridCube> too many icons
[22:59] <knome> ochosi, i was just thinking i'd send a mail to the ML telling i'll add you to our artwork team if nobody objects
[23:00] <GridCube> i just need fast access to my most used folders, the standard places uses all the thunar favourites
[23:01] <knome> GridCube, don't overuse the gtk bookmarks :P
[23:01] <GridCube> also the default folder thing that comes whit the pseudo-dock is awful
[23:01] <GridCube> so before knowing that places was back i did it :P
[23:02] <ochosi> knome: sure, go ahead
[23:02] <beardygnome> GridCube: yeah, i hate the directory menu
[23:02] <knome> ochosi, hehe :)
[23:03] <GridCube> :D
[23:03] <knome> MEH
[23:03] <knome> i should change my sig
[23:03] <knome> done
[23:08] <beardygnome> here's my desktop - http://imagebin.org/181315
[23:09] <GridCube> desktop icons :P
[23:09] <beardygnome> yep
[23:10] <beardygnome> should really clear them down again, getting too many on there
[23:11] <ochosi> right, here's mine. http://imagebin.org/181316
[23:13] <GridCube> recursive desktop screenshots
[23:14] <beardygnome> :-)
[23:17] <GridCube> http://gridcube.deviantart.com/gallery/?catpath=/customization/screenshots/#/d1dau26
[23:17] <GridCube> ;D
[23:17] <GridCube> 2008
[23:18] <ochosi> seems like you've come a long way since murrina storm ;)
[23:18] <GridCube> :D
[23:23] <knome> ugh
[23:23] <knome> mail sent
[23:24] <ochosi> which ml was that, xubuntu-devel?
[23:24] <knome> yup
[23:24] <knome> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-October/008004.html
[23:24] <knome> there you go
[23:24] <ochosi> ty, i only get digests :)
[23:25] <knome> awwh
[23:25] <knome> i hate digests :)
[23:26] <knome> oh crap
[23:26] <knome> i forgot something :P
[23:26] <knome> haha
[23:28] <knome> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2011-October/008005.html
[23:28] <knome> that
[23:28] <Da_Coynul> question about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-notifyd/+bug/835972
[23:28] <ochosi> hmm, i can confirm that...
[23:29] <Da_Coynul> I found a fix
[23:30] <ochosi> Da_Coynul: guess it's best if you try to get a hold of mr_pouit then
[23:30] <Da_Coynul> k, thanks
[23:30] <ochosi> knome: lol, just realized i don't get digests for xubuntu-dev ;D (only for xfce-dev)
[23:31] <ochosi> Da_Coynul: have you posted the fix on lp?
[23:31] <knome> ochosi, you don't get anything for xubuntu-dev? :P
[23:31] <Da_Coynul> yes
[23:31] <knome> ochosi, you didn't care to scroll to the bottom of the bugreport? :))
[23:31] <ochosi> knome: no, i do. but not digest
[23:31] <knome> well good
[23:31] <ochosi> i did scroll down, but my eyes are too tired to read :)
[23:31] <knome> you should read my mails in the list as soon as possible to be able to obey instantly
[23:32] <ochosi> hehe
[23:32] <knome> err, some of my english is also not making any sense
[23:32] <knome> "unless nobody wants"
[23:34] <ochosi> yeah, also: "a word or few..."
[23:35] <knome> :P
[23:35] <mr_pouit> eh, how https://launchpad.net/~mrpouit will be cool? :p
[23:35] <knome> mr_pouit, see the membership icons :D
[23:35] <knome> mr_pouit, and think that the xubuntu-dev icon is fixed too...
[23:36] <mr_pouit> Da_Coynul:  thanks for your work on this issue. Now you need to wait for a maintainer of nm to comment ;-)
[23:36] <knome> lol, good reading: 'maintainer of nm to connect'
[23:36] <Da_Coynul> no problem.  have a lot of time on my hands lately...
[23:36] <ochosi> Da_Coynul: sounds like you wanna join the xubuntu-dev team :)
[23:37] <knome> haha :)
[23:37] <knome> at least our dev community is VERY welcoming
[23:37] <knome> even a bit too welcoming
[23:37] <knome> ;)
[23:37] <Da_Coynul> nice :)
[23:37] <knome> Da_Coynul, yeah, if you have extra time... extra hands are always nice to have around
[23:38] <knome> especially if they are (re)pluggable
[23:38] <knome> ;)
[23:39] <Da_Coynul> hehe
[23:42]  * knome is a bad boy and eats some candy just before going to bed
[23:42] <Da_Coynul> I also helped with Bug #872652 - that one was REALLY annoying
[23:44] <Da_Coynul> I like Xubuntu...would like to see more people get involved.
[23:44] <knome> me too!
[23:44] <knome> Da_Coynul, are you following the developer mailing list, or anything
[23:45] <Da_Coynul> I was just reading it first time today.  Will keep an eye on it now.
[23:45] <Da_Coynul> I just learned Xubuntu gets no support from Canonical..
[23:49] <knome> yeah.
[23:50] <knome> at least no financial support... and one could say there's no technical support either
[23:51] <Da_Coynul> have you been able to get Ubuntu devs to implement fixes for bugs that only affect Xubuntu?
[23:53] <knome> nope.
[23:53] <knome> not really.
[23:53] <knome> and not even help fixing them, even if they broke the stuff.
[23:53] <knome> (usually)
[23:53]  * Unit193 looks at thunar and U1
[23:56] <ochosi> Unit193: never tried it, what's the status?
[23:56] <knome> doesn't work
[23:56] <knome> :P
[23:56] <ochosi> hah
[23:56] <ochosi> simple is that?
[23:56] <Unit193> Yep
[23:56] <knome> i think that was an ironical comment
[23:57] <ochosi> yeah, i thought so, just wanted to know whether they broke something or whether it wasn't working in the first place
[23:57] <ochosi> does anyone know what's needed for U1?