[00:24] <New_One> Hi! Could someone tell me what is wrong with xubunutu distor 11.04. I am trying to install it through wubi, and then in the midle of process, just pops up an error?
[00:27] <babble> New_One, what error?
[00:27] <New_One> Just say to check in tem folder and ther is on text file with lot of lines
[00:28] <babble> that's unfortunately not really going to help narrow down what's going wrong.
[00:28] <New_One> 10-28 02:26 ERROR  TaskList: [Errno 13] Permission denied
[00:28] <babble> are you running as administrator on your Windows machine?
[00:28] <New_One> 10-28 02:26 ERROR  TaskList: Cannot download the metalink and therefore the ISO Traceback (most recent call last):
[00:29] <New_One> administartor
[00:31] <babble> can we try this another way instead of Wubi?
[00:31] <New_One> i try few days ago with livecd, also didn't work
[00:32] <New_One> watht another way
[00:38] <babble> try installing VirtualBox and install your live image into a VM there.
[00:39] <babble> you can try out Xubuntu without changing your Windows install
[00:40] <New_One> ok, could you tell me what this realy menas - http://robertogaloppini.net/2009/12/27/wubi-ubuntu-installer-for-windows-oserror-errno-13-permission-denied/
[00:41] <New_One> I have this error, so may be it colud work
[00:45] <New_One> This article above doesn't helpe
[00:49] <well_laid_lawn> New_One: it says yu need to have the iso file in the right directory
[00:51] <New_One> I tryed it doesn't work... the only thing I can try is to download xubuntu thorugh wubi, and not thorugh CD, but that is not so ok, because if your computer doesn't have internte, then you are in problem
[00:52] <well_laid_lawn> New_One: you can copy the iso file off the cd and put it into the wubi directory
[00:54] <New_One> here is the thing, a downloada the iso file, then I create cd image, and then is started this cd... I stil have downloadet iso. So i put it in a folder and I copy wubi form the image cd into a folder, nothing hapened
[00:55] <well_laid_lawn> !wubi
[00:56] <well_laid_lawn> check those ^ links
[00:56] <New_One> well ubottu it isn't simple :-(
[01:33] <rez`> anyone ever get an error saying "Unable to get exclusive lock
[01:33] <rez`> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) already running. Please close that application first."
[01:34] <well_laid_lawn> rez`: it happens sometimes - have you closed all package managers?
[01:34] <rez`> yep
[01:34] <well_laid_lawn> !aptfix
[01:35] <rez`> even tried restarting
[01:37] <rez`> haha couldnt kill it, its  saying its in use by another package
[01:38] <well_laid_lawn> do like ubottu suggests
[02:50] <Deborah> I upgraded to 11.10 and when I try to log in, I get a terminal in the upper left . any clue how I can get logged in???
[02:51] <Deborah> lovely. loads of people here and nobody's talking.
[02:52] <babble> deborah: it's booting to the commandline instead of a desktop?
[02:53] <Deborah>  yes
[02:53] <babble> can you still log in using your regular user account?
[02:53] <Deborah> a terminal window in the upper left instead of booting to gnome or whatever the new thing is
[02:53] <Deborah> that is my regular user account
[02:53] <babble> I'm not quite sure what you mean by 'a terminal window in the upper left.'
[02:53] <Deborah> only one I have set up, nobody else uses my puter
[02:53] <babble> do you see just a black screen with a text prompt?
[02:54] <babble> no GUI at all?
[02:54] <Deborah> in the upper left
[02:54] <babble> well, 'in the upper left' and 'in a window' don't sound like you're actually booting to just a command prompt.
[02:54] <babble> do you have actual windows drawn on screen, or JUST white text on a black screen?
[02:55] <Deborah> I have the regular ubuntu background, no taskbars or anything, just the command line box in the upper left
[02:55] <Deborah> it doesn't do the usual  loading thing, just pops that up
[02:55] <babble> if you're seeing a desktop picture, you're loading to a desktop.
[02:55] <babble> it just sounds like your regular panel isn't loading.
[02:55] <Deborah> no, it's the login background
[02:55] <babble> are you using Ubuntu or Xubuntu?
[02:56] <Deborah> um ... the difference is ... ??? ubuntu
[02:56] <Deborah> xubuntu
[02:56] <Deborah> ?
[02:56] <babble> well, Xubuntu uses Xfce, which is a different desktop environment than Ubuntu and Unity
[02:56] <babble> you're in the Xubuntu-specific channel, which is why I asked :)
[02:56] <Deborah> ah! then I guess I'm in the wrong place.
[02:56] <Deborah> thank you!
[02:56] <babble> now: it NOW sounds like you're at the LightDM login
[02:57] <babble> can you log into your machine with your regular username and password?
[02:57] <Deborah> I'll find the right one and see if anyone has any answers
[02:57] <babble> if it's just a generic login issue, we can try to help
[02:57] <Deborah> I log in from the regular login and it just gives me the command prompt instead
[02:57] <moetunes> sounds like twm with a xterm to me
[02:57] <babble> it sounds like one or more of your Unity packages didn't get configured.
[02:58] <Deborah> I don't even want unity. I like my 2 taskbars in gnome! LOL!
[02:58] <babble> when you log in and get dropped to the commandline, do you THEN get *just* a black screen with white text?
[02:58] <babble> well, in 11.10 if you're using the Ubuntu Desktop, you'll get Unity
[02:58] <babble> you can install Xubuntu and see how you like it
[02:58] <Deborah> no, it's a window over the purple background
[02:58] <Deborah> yeah, I know unity is there like it or not
[02:58] <Deborah> what's different and fabulous about xubuntu?
[02:59] <babble> you've got Terminal set to autoload.
[02:59] <babble> can you mouse over to the LEFT side of your screen and get the Unity launcher?
[03:00] <babble> looks like a dock with icons
[03:00] <babble> should appear when you mouse over to the left edge of the screen
[03:00] <Deborah> I don't think so. it honestly doesn't load anything, just instant popup of the term window
[03:00] <babble> yeah, we'll get to that
[03:00] <Deborah> the login screen has the purple background. it doesn't move when I login, no time at all between "enter" and window popup
[03:00] <babble> I'm trying to figure out if you have enough of Unity installed and configured to launch anything
[03:01] <babble> do you have window controls on that terminal window? can you close it?
[03:01] <Deborah> I did get in once, saw unity, logged out to change back to gnome ... and this happened and keeps repeating
[03:01] <Deborah> no header bar or menus or anything, just black window with white letters
[03:01] <Deborah> maybe I need to have my dh download 11.10 and do a fresh install
[03:02] <Deborah> what a mess. updates USUALLY work fine, so I got spoiled and complacent
[03:02] <babble> in that terminal window, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop --reinstall
[03:02] <Deborah> ok, will do
[03:02] <Deborah> thank you!
[03:02] <babble> if that doesn't work, come back and we'll figure out what to do next
[03:02] <babble> (you'll probably have to run dpkg and redo your system config, but it will do it for you :)
[03:03] <Deborah> thank you! I'll be back if it doesn't work
[03:03] <Deborah> I'm a user, not a programmer--for about 10 years now with various linux distro's, just haven't ever gotten to remembering commands. have to look them up when I need them
[03:03] <babble> no worries.
[03:04] <babble> I *think*, but can't say for sure, that the ubuntu-desktop metapackage will redo a dpkg configure if you choose reinstall
[03:16] <Deborah> babble? you still here? I'm back
[03:16] <Deborah> reinstalling desktop didn't do a thing
[03:16] <Deborah> it's there, I just don't have a clue how to get in
[03:17] <Deborah> or maybe I do ... be back if it doesn't work
[03:17] <Deborah> after I shut down live cd, boot to login, try it, reboot back into live cd ...
[03:27] <Deborah> okay, in case anyone else gets a case of the stupids and winds up here with a term window when attempting to log in to ubuntu 11.10, tell them to click the options gear again and choose ubuntu, because when you click it initially it chooses FOR you the first option, which is some kind of recovery
[03:28] <holstein> Deborah: you are good?
[03:28] <holstein> you are in unity?
[03:28] <Deborah> I wish I still had my OLD irc scripts so I could post a blushing face
[03:28] <Deborah> yes, I'm in
[03:28] <Deborah> thank you
[03:28] <holstein> Deborah: good news :)
[03:29]  * Deborah blushes
[03:29] <Deborah> thank you
[03:29] <Deborah> have a great night and thank you for being here!
[03:29] <Deborah> even though I figured it out myself after my case of the stupids finally got used up LOL
[03:29] <holstein> well, thank babble
[03:29] <holstein> i just got here :)
[03:29] <Deborah> BABBLE thank you!
[03:30] <Deborah> sometimes, just babbling does get the answer LOL
[03:30] <Deborah> g'night
[03:30] <holstein> Deborah: GN
[03:48] <babble> back
[03:48] <babble> oh, GOOD, deborah's fixed? hehe.
[03:48] <babble> I was having a heck of a time understanding where she was
[03:49] <holstein> she's sorted now :)
[03:49] <babble> yay :)
[07:43] <xubuntu742> help
[07:44] <xubuntu742> sis966 hda intel
[08:39] <Burfdl> Hi, I'm on oneiric using an apple aluminium keyboard (uk). It was working fine with the wrong keymap (@=", etc) but now i've switched it across I can't map window switching to the ctrl/alt/meta keys. Keyboard preferences recognises the keystroke, but the event doesn't fire. I'm left switching with the screen-top window buttons for the moment. Other combinations like ctrl+backspace for word-delete work fine though. Has anyone had this before? Thanks
[08:41] <well_laid_lawn> what do you mean by " but now i've switched it across" ?
[08:43] <Burfdl> It was on whatever the default model+layout was, I switched it to model:"Apple Aluminium Keyboard (ISO)" layout:"English (UK)" in the layout tab of the keyboard section of the settings manager,
[10:27] <JesperDK> Hi all. I just installed xubuntu yesterday, and I'm already loving it. XFCE is much better than GNOME or Unity in my mind. But I'd really like to have the two panels switch place, so that my "start button" is in the bottom, like I'm used to in Windows. Can anybody help me solve this problem?
[10:28] <knome> JesperDK, do you want to switch the panels head-to-head completely, or just the applications menu?
[10:28] <JesperDK> I guess the applications menu would be enough. I haven't been using the panel that's on the bottom now anyway
[10:29] <knome> JesperDK, okay. right-click on the panel, select panel -> panel preferences
[10:29] <Sysi> just set up your panel how you want, drag items around, move panels etc.
[10:29] <knome> JesperDK, from that dialog, go to tab items and add/remove the applications menu applet
[10:29] <JesperDK> Ok, did it
[10:29] <Sysi> http://docs.xfce.org/help/xfce4-panel/C/
[10:31] <JesperDK> Justt select the "Applications Menu" item and delete it?
[10:47] <takis-sanjo> hey does anyone know how to change the windows colors? i just switched to xubuntu
[10:51] <takis-sanjo> i have this annoying blue background
[10:51] <takis-sanjo> go to windows manager no option
[10:52] <madnick> Goto apperance to change themes
[10:53] <takis-sanjo> how can i edit the theme?
[11:50] <bat_> hello
[11:51] <bat_> I need some help. I just installed xubuntu and I want to move the dashboard to put it down. Is it possible without making a new one?
[11:53] <TheSheep> dashboard?
[11:54] <well_laid_lawn> I'm guessing top panel
[11:54] <bat_> yes top panel sorry
[11:55] <bat_> Is there an option to move it ?
[11:56] <Sysi> settings -> unlock, drag from handle
[11:58] <bat_> great, I had not seen the handle. Thanks
[12:44] <takis-sanjo> ok guys 3 questions;is there a util to edit the windows manager themes or should i change em manually;2)i gey auth with me AP and after some time everything stops n0 packets in/out, no kernel mesgs no nothing, have u come across to such bugs?
[12:45] <GridCube> 1) manual edition
[12:45] <GridCube> 2) no idea what you are talking about
[12:46] <GridCube> you never asked a third question
[12:46] <babble> takis-sanjo: I'm not sure what you're wanting to edit, but there's a themerc file inside the xfwm folder for the theme you want to edit
[12:46] <babble> it's relatively simple to grasp
[12:46] <takis-sanjo> the color values in themerc
[12:46] <babble> (make a copy of the window theme just in case, and edit that)
[12:46] <well_laid_lawn> or find a new theme
[12:46] <takis-sanjo> hoped there was a color tool or something
[12:46] <well_laid_lawn> !themes
[12:47] <takis-sanjo> no this is to change a theme not edit a theme
[12:47] <takis-sanjo> ok
[12:48] <GridCube> oh to change you go to >settings >appearance and >setting >window manager
[12:53] <deww> how do i make it so that I can do something like ctrl-click on hyperlinks with xfce4-terminal? right now, i seem to have to right click, open link
[12:55] <well_laid_lawn> I know urxvt can single click to open links I dunno about xfce4-terminal
[12:56] <deww> ah ok
[12:56] <deww> thanks :)
[12:57] <deww> it's not really a big deal, i just need to change my habits
[12:57] <well_laid_lawn> I'm not saying it can't
[12:57] <well_laid_lawn> I just haven't tried with it
[12:58] <deww> yeah that's ok :D
[12:58] <deww> I'll dig around more
[13:09] <muzzy_> hi guys... i have a really annoying problem with a fresh install of xubuntu 11.10, i keep getting random blank screens and i have to reboot to get back to the desktop... i mean, sometimes while using my computer, the desktop disappears and everything i can see is the mouse pointer
[13:09] <muzzy_> (screensaver is disabled)
[13:10] <GridCube> oh
[13:10] <GridCube> that happened to me
[13:10] <GridCube> D:
[13:10] <Sysi> does anything happen when you right click
[13:10] <muzzy_> nothing at all...
[13:10] <GridCube> i had to install gdm to replace lightdm and stuff went back at life
[13:10] <GridCube> muzzy_: that exact thing happened to me
[13:10] <muzzy_> gdm solved it?
[13:11] <GridCube> the only way to remove the problem was that, replacing liightdm for gdm
[13:11] <GridCube> don't ask me why but it worked
[13:11] <GridCube> it happened mostly when launching firefox or some other program that wanted ram
[13:12] <muzzy_> hey, the same happened once while the installation process...
[13:12] <GridCube> oh, i used the alternate on that machine
[13:13] <muzzy_> hmmm i will try with gdm, let's see what happens, thanks :)
[13:13] <GridCube> :)
[13:13] <Myrolin> Hi. Is it possible to use xubuntu with two monitors and both as seperate devices... actually I only get clone mode to work
[13:13] <GridCube> Myrolin: short answer: probably
[13:14] <Sysi> try arandr/grandr/ati\nvidia-thing
[13:16] <Myrolin> GridCube, hehe :)
[13:16] <Myrolin> GridCube, ok i will try this
[13:18] <Myrolin> ok, I set my VGA1 to primary. and what s next... which daemon do I have to restart now?
[13:18] <Myrolin> did some xrandr --output VGA1 --primary
[13:18] <Myrolin> that always works with unity
[13:35] <Burfdl> Hi, I'm on oneiric using an apple keyboard. It was working fine with the default, wrong keymap (@=", etc) but now i've switched it across to model:"Apple Aluminium Keyboard (ISO)" layout:"English (UK)" I can't map window switching to the ctrl/alt/meta keys. Keyboard preferences recognises the keystrokes, but the events don't fire. In keyboard preferences they come up oddly, [alt]+[tab] shows as <alt><mod2>tab. Other combinations like ctrl+backspace for w
[13:35] <Burfdl> ord-delete still work fine though. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks.
[14:22] <jvoisin> hello
[14:32] <babble> ok, hmm.
[14:32] <babble> there *was* a (thunar plugin? I can't recall off the top of my head) that updated filesystem changes as they happened in an open thunar window.
[14:33] <babble> that's either not running or I've goofed something up
[14:33] <babble> and I can't recall the name of the idiot package I'm looking for. hehe.
[14:37] <drc> babble: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=65929  ?
[14:39] <babble> gamin!
[14:39] <babble> thank you very much :)
[14:39] <drc> np
[14:40] <drc> The google foo is strong today :)
[14:40] <babble> haha, I knew what I needed, I just couldn't remember the package name :)
[14:41] <drc> Time for some fuzzy logic then....3 fingers of Jack Daniels, wait 5 minutes, then....
[14:42] <babble> hahahhaa, that *should* have been my google search strategy ;)
[14:44] <drc> It's a Tennesee Zen practice.
[14:46] <babble> hahahaha
[14:47] <babble> and it's updating again!
[14:47] <babble> thanks again :)
[14:47] <drc> np...I learn something everyday here...that made my quota for today.
[15:01] <diskinetic> my software center won't install anything
[15:02] <babble> do you have Synaptic open at the same time?
[15:02] <diskinetic> no
[15:03] <babble> quit SWCenter and open a terminal?
[15:03] <babble> something is likely locking the dpkg database and SWCenter is waiting for that to finish.
[15:03] <diskinetic> ok
[15:05] <diskinetic> synaptic won't launch
[15:05] <babble> what error does it give you?
[15:05] <diskinetic> none
[15:05] <diskinetic> just stops
[15:06] <babble> quit SWCenter and open a terminal
[15:06] <diskinetic> ok
[15:06] <babble> try sudo apt-get install -f and see if it gives you an error
[15:07] <diskinetic> no errors
[15:08] <babble> try relaunching synaptic, WITHOUT SWCenter open
[15:09] <diskinetic> nothing
[15:09] <babble> it will give you an error if it can't launch
[15:09] <babble> i.e. a badly formed line in software sources.
[15:10] <babble> something.
[15:10] <diskinetic> nope, just dead silence
[15:10] <babble> and this behavior perisists through logout/login or a reboot?
[15:11] <diskinetic> so far, yes, but I can retry
[15:11] <babble> my first guess is that you have something else running that's locking dpkg, but Synaptic should complain at you if it can't get a lock
[15:11] <babble> did you recently install something new that's acting as a frontend for installations? Ubuntu Tweak or something?
[15:12] <diskinetic> no, fresh install, just moved the panels around
[15:12] <babble> try logging out and back in and see if you can open Synaptic
[15:12] <deww> so my work around for doing ctrl-click to launch hyperlinks was to install gnome-terminal. :) thanks all.
[15:12] <diskinetic> ok
[15:17] <diskinetic> no change, no synaptic, swc won't install anything
[15:30] <MikeChelen> is there any way to change the size of the mouse cursor?
[15:34] <holstein> MikeChelen: theres a GUI for that, but TBH, in 11.10, it doesnt seem like that has any effect on the actual cursor, at least for me
[15:35] <holstein> deww: control-click is working for me in xfce4-terminal, but after logging out, or suspend, i get a popup about the default browser
[15:35] <MikeChelen> holstein: oh too bad, 11.10 is what im using
[15:35] <holstein> so far, i cant seem to get default browser settings to stick
[15:35]  * holstein tried sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[15:42] <bashelina> Anyone ELSE having trouble with mencoder on Ubuntu 11.10  ???
[15:42] <bashelina> mencoder stopped working after upgrade
[15:50] <papahippo> installing xuvuntu on an acer netbook even as I type
[15:51] <papahippo> =xubuntu (fingers too fat for netbook keyboard)
[15:52] <knome> bashelina, "stopped working" is not a very good report - what exactly in it stopped working, what error messages you got, etc...
[15:54] <papahippo> I've just repaired this netbook for my daughter after a disk crash ...
[15:55] <knome> papahippo, any problems with it?
[15:56] <papahippo> no problems at all - just hoping my daughter will be equaly impressed
[15:56] <knome> yup
[15:56] <knome> good luck and have fun with it :)
[15:57] <knome> and hopefully she does as well
[15:58] <drc> papahippo: After 3 daughters and multiple computers, I hit upon my optimum solution.  Set it up, hand it to her, and say "holler when you can't fix something" :)
[15:59] <drc> Now I don't even have to set it up (much less buy it).
[16:00] <knome> heh
[16:31] <antnash> Hey guys, I'm trying to get my vnc server working properly but failing. Whenever I try and run anything with gksu it shuts down my viewer window and then refuses to connect again. Any suggestions?
[16:38] <Satanaa> Just moved from ubuntu to xubuntu :)
[16:38] <drc> Oye como va?
[16:39] <Satanaa> ?
[16:41] <drc> SaaMmY: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpPb2cVswlI  A punny on your nick, the song and a translation of the phrase :)
[16:42] <drc> Satanaa: Sorry
[16:42] <drc> SaaMmY: Never mind....tab completion playing with me again.
[16:49] <raevol> hi guys, in oeneric, how do i use libnotify instead of the xfce4 notifications?
[16:56] <raevol> ugh
[16:56] <raevol> where would i ask about xfce4-notifyd
[16:57] <raevol> here or #xfce?
[16:57] <mecklen> Hi.  I'm using orage 4.8.1 in xubuntu 11.10 and alarms won't play the sound.  Audio works in general, and I'm able to play the sound wave file (/usr/share/orage/sound/Knock.wav) using parole and aplay.  I've even tried to use the Procdure box with "aplay ...", but no sound is ever played.  Suggestions?
[16:57] <holstein> raevol: i would say its OK to ask in both, and just wait around for an answer :)
[16:58] <raevol> ok, thanks: i'm trying to theme xfce4-notifyd so that when you mouse over the notifications they go more transparent, like libnotify does, instead of becoming more opaque
[16:58] <raevol> is that possible?
[16:59] <holstein> raevol: its all open, so anything is possible
[16:59] <raevol> holstein: is there a specification for how to accomplish that in the gtkrc files anywhere?
[17:01] <holstein> raevol: im not going to be able to help with that, im quite new to xubuntu/xfce, i just didnt want to leave you hanging here talking to yourself
[17:01] <holstein> this channel is quite active though, so if someone knows, they will respond :)
[17:02] <raevol> thanks
[17:04] <holstein> MikeChelen: are you up to date with updates? maybe trying a version forward or back in orage would help you with troubleshooting
[17:11] <raevol> i installed libnotify-osd and then removed it and now notifications are completely broken
[17:11] <raevol> how do i fix this without reinstalling xubuntu completely
[17:11] <raevol> instead of getting notifications now, i get actual popup windows
[17:11] <drc>  /clear
[17:11] <raevol> when i try to preview notifications in settings i get "Failed to execute child process "notify-send" (No such file or directory)"
[17:12] <raevol> wait what the heck
[17:12] <raevol> now pidgin is showing notifications correctly
[17:12] <raevol> maybe it's just the settings window that's broken...
[17:12] <raevol> UGH
[17:13] <Sysi> xfce settings for notifications propably is broken if you don't have xfce notifications
[17:13] <raevol> i didn't remove xfce notifications?
[17:13] <raevol> and i removed libnotify-osd?
[17:13] <Sysi> uhm
[17:14] <Sysi> notification systems should conflict so that package manager removes other when you install different one, dunno what happens when you remove that
[17:15] <holstein> the xfce one could be removed when installing the other one
[17:15] <raevol> it didn't conflict, it let me install both at the same time
[17:16] <raevol> oh well i can live with the settings being broken
[17:17] <Sysi> libnotify-osd doesn't really sound like entire notify system.. I think notify-osd is called notification-daemon now
[17:17] <raevol> i see
[17:32] <raevol> sure enough, my unmounting notification is broken again
[17:36] <preecher> when i try to boot from (3) different flash drives it just freezes/hangs at the initial text with the "peter anvin" name in the sentence----however on a usb card reader with a sd card plugged into the same usb slot i can boot up fine----this only started after installing 11.10      any suggestions greatly appreciated
[17:37] <holstein> preecher: same iso?
[17:37] <preecher> ive tried with 3 diff isos  holstein
[17:38] <preecher> but the same on each usb flash and card
[17:39] <preecher> i usually use unetbootin  but i even tried on the startup disc creator with same results
[17:40] <holstein> preecher: 3 different iso's, 3 different USB sticks? the same USB port with the SD card reader that works?
[17:40] <holstein> not sure
[17:43] <preecher> yes   i tried the same iso on each of the usb sticks no luck so i moved to another iso until the 3rd and no luck so i tried the card reader/sd card plugged into the same usb port on my laptop & it works----im just lost as to what may be the problem since i know it worked prior to the 11.10 install
[17:45] <preecher> i dont know why i say this but i feel its just some little BS thing that i dont know how to correct
[18:00] <holstein> preecher: so, it was 3 different isos? and the same USB stick?
[18:01] <preecher> holstein,  i just formatted one of the usb's to ext4 instead of fat32  and its booted from the usb now
[18:01] <preecher> yes
[18:01] <holstein> i typically reformat before each unetbootin session
[18:01] <holstein> its likely not the change of format, but rather just having formatted it
[18:01] <preecher> i always reformat but i always format to fat32
[18:02] <Sysi> fat32 should work, though sometimes I've needed to push some /dev/zero to stick with dd first
[18:03] <preecher> i havent used dd since i instlled arch a few months ago but i will try-   thanks for your help-)
[18:04] <preecher> im going to reformat to fat32 again an see if it will work now
[18:05] <preecher> thank you holstein and Sysi
[18:35] <Satanaa> Can i get any of you to share a screenshot of your xubuntu desktops?
[18:35] <Satanaa> kinda looking for inspiration :)
[18:36] <knome> i use pretty much the default, expect that i have two panels that are like the smaller panel in the defaults
[18:36] <Satanaa> ah :)
[18:37] <Sysi> some days ago: http://imagebin.org/180175
[18:38] <knome> BOOO, fedora
[18:38] <knome> :)
[18:38] <Satanaa> that looks really good tho
[18:38] <Sysi> now: http://imagebin.org/181261
[18:39] <knome> i like your 100% transparent irc-window
[18:39] <Sysi> 15%
[18:39] <Satanaa> uh doctor who
[18:39] <Satanaa> im installing shutter, gonna show you mine
[18:39] <Satanaa> mine is really simple yet tho
[18:40] <Satanaa> yet = still
[18:40] <knome> simple is best :P
[18:40] <Sysi> on virtual oneiric I have default wallpaper, similar panel config and same theme
[18:41] <Satanaa> http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/lycfqa7s/1_001.png
[18:41] <drc> Satanaa: http://imagebin.org/181262
[18:41] <holstein> http://imagebin.org/181263
[18:42] <Satanaa> looks good :)
[18:42] <Sysi> I could use dock..
[18:42] <Satanaa> i use docky
[18:42] <holstein> my panel hides
[18:42] <holstein> i like kupfer
[18:42] <muzzy_> hi guys... i have a really annoying problem with a fresh install of xubuntu 11.10, i keep getting random blank screens and i have to reboot to get back to the desktop... i mean, sometimes while using my computer, the desktop disappears and everything i can see is the mouse pointer
[18:42] <Satanaa> helps a lot since im on a netbook :)
[18:42] <holstein> gnome-do like... nice and light though
[18:43] <Satanaa> its from gnome-do :)
[18:43] <Satanaa> just without the gnome-do part
[18:43] <muzzy_> anyone with the same problem? a guy suggested me to replace lightdm with gdm, but it didn't work...
[18:43] <Satanaa> its in the repos as "docky"
[18:44] <holstein> gnome-do seems heavy though...
[18:44] <Sysi> if panel is same color as window titlebar it has to be at the bottom or desktop looks unbalanced
[18:44] <holstein> heavier i should say
[18:44] <Satanaa> muzzy_, i had that ever since ubuntu 11.10 was released
[18:44] <knome> http://temp.knome.fi/other/shot-20111028.png
[18:44] <knome> there you go
[18:44] <knome> :P
[18:44] <Sysi> I liked AWN when I tested docks
[18:44] <Satanaa> and now im on xubuntu, and the issue went away
[18:44] <Satanaa> muzzy_, sadly i have to tell you that this bug is known and there is no fix for it yet
[18:45] <muzzy_> Satanaa, but i'm using xubuntu too...
[18:45] <Satanaa> i only had that issue with ubuntu
[18:46] <Satanaa> so did you update xfce or format and install?
[18:46] <Satanaa> knome, how did you get it to say "places" ?
[18:46] <muzzy_> i installed and updated all packages
[18:46] <knome> Satanaa, it's the places plugin, not the dir plugin
[18:46] <Satanaa> mine is there but has no icon.. the icon looked stupid without text
[18:46] <muzzy_> hmmm but the same happened once during the installation process
[18:47] <Satanaa> ooohh thanks
[18:47] <muzzy_> it seems like a problem with the intel driver
[18:47] <knome> Satanaa, you can't mount removable devs with the places plugin though
[18:47] <Satanaa> ah
[18:48] <Satanaa> i just want the homedir :)
[18:48] <holstein> the question i have is... in http://imagebin.org/181266 you can see that there is room on the left side for the unity bar
[18:48] <knome> i just want the gtk bookmarks :)
[18:48] <holstein> thats gotta be some global compiz setting?
[18:48] <Sysi> Satanaa: I found just launching thunar faster
[18:49] <knome> Satanaa, yeah, if you want the homedir only, add a launcher for thunar
[18:49] <Sysi> I could try compiz before I decide to blow up this fedora installation..
[18:50] <holstein> Sysi: you should, then you can teach me some things :)
[18:50] <Satanaa> knome, you did see my xfce start menu icon right? right next to it is my homedir.. just picked a icon that is transparent :P
[18:51] <knome> mmh
[18:51] <Satanaa> used the "directory dir" one
[18:52] <Satanaa> oh wait muzzy_
[18:52] <Satanaa> "muzzy_> hmmm but the same happened once during the installation process"
[18:52] <Satanaa> happend to me too
[18:52] <Satanaa> but then i just shut my box down and reinstalled
[18:52] <muzzy_> hmmm yes, i had to start installation again
[18:53] <Satanaa> i just figured that i shut the box off too early when it had a black screen
[18:53] <Satanaa> got no issues now
[18:53] <muzzy_> second installation went ok...
[18:53] <Satanaa> but i cant use ubuntu 11.10, some dev messed uo
[18:53] <Satanaa> up*
[18:53] <muzzy_> maybe i should try reinstalling anyway
[18:53] <Satanaa> im a brand new xubuntu user
[18:54] <Satanaa> i have tried xfce before tho.. but didnt like it before 8.4
[18:54] <Satanaa> or was it 4.8 ?
[18:54] <Satanaa> 4.8 i think hehe
[18:54] <muzzy_> yes, 4.8
[18:55] <Sysi> holstein: last time I wanted effects/more features, I ran kwin
[18:55] <Satanaa> been using gnome2 and openbox
[18:56] <Sysi> I shall check if kubuntu still hates my soundcard
[18:57] <knome> bbl
[19:00] <Satanaa> later knome
[19:12] <boole> hi
[19:12] <Satanaa> hiya
[19:12] <boole> i cant install xubuntu on my netbook
[19:12] <Satanaa> why not?
[19:14] <Guest93301> Hello. I have just installed Xubuntu 11.10 64-bit. When I boot it stops at "Checking battery state".
[19:16] <drc> Guest69301: Laptop. I assume?  Turn it off, take the battery out and reboot...See if it boots thru?
[19:17] <Guest93301> drc: No, it is a desktop.
[19:17] <Guest93301> :/
[19:19] <holstein> well, i got that compiz expo thing sorted.. http://imagebin.org/181271 it was just some default settings in the expo config making room for the unity bar
[19:22] <drc> Guest69301: Then I have no idea.
[19:23] <holstein> Guest69301: did you get to the desktop live? do you have the live ISO handy?
[19:26] <holstein> im finding old bugs similar to that... i would like to boot a live CD with the 'noacpi' option and maybe test for a few more options... see if a live CD goes to the desktop
[19:27] <drc> Guest69301: Did you install from the LiveCD/USB desktop, or go straight to the install option?
[19:28] <ScottE> Guest69301, Try pressing ctrl-alt-f1 when you see that message. If you get a login prompt, that's a good sign
[19:33] <drc> hmmm...lots to tab completion errors here :)
[19:35] <ScottE> Shoot, yes my reply was obviously meant for Guest93301 who had already left anyway :-/
[19:36] <drc> Maybe his battery died :)
[19:36] <bashelina> knome, Segmentation fault
[19:36] <bashelina> knome, -> MEncoder has exited with a non-zero status
[19:37] <bashelina> knome, -> Exiting in function: mencoder_exit()
[19:38] <ScottE> lol drc
[20:55] <chrisNYC> Hello, I am trying to install SMath Studio (http://en.smath.info/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=643) on xubuntu. It requires Mono runtime, which I have installed via Ubuntu Software Center. However, I am unsure what to do with the *.mono.tar.gz file i have downloaded from the SMath website. Am I supposed to manually uncompress this file?
[20:57] <beardygnome> chrisNYC: i'm not familiar with smath studio, but that's the normal process for installing third party apps
[20:58] <beardygnome> the archive should have installation instructions in it
[20:58] <chrisNYC> ok well after extracting it, all i have in the folder is an exe file, I guess mono runtime is required to open this file
[20:59] <chrisNYC> there are no installation instructions
[21:03] <GridCube> chrisNYC, then from a terminal go to the folder containing that exe
[21:03] <chrisNYC> Do all programs for ubuntu work on xubuntu?
[21:03] <GridCube> and ./run.exe it
[21:03] <GridCube> they should chrisNYC
[21:07] <chrisNYC> The assembly mscorlib.dll was not found or could not be loaded.
[21:07] <chrisNYC> It should have been installed in the `/usr/lib/mono/2.0/mscorlib.dll' directory.
[21:07] <chrisNYC> looks like mono was installed incorrectly?
[21:07] <nim0_> How to edit  keyboard shortcuts in xubuntu
[21:08] <Sysi> nim0_:  menu -> settings -> settings manager -> keyboard -> shortcuts
[21:08] <chrisNYC> Thank you beardygnome and GridCube, i have a few more things to try now.. will let you know if i run into more troubles.
[21:09] <beardygnome> chrisNYC: np, good luck
[21:09] <GridCube> chrisNYC, you should check what version of mono you need
[21:10] <nim0_> Sysi, there are only meta keys there, i want to change : max window, min window,  prev window etc etc
[21:10] <chrisNYC> it says latest, but the SMath release is about 1 year old
[21:11] <GridCube> i only have mono because i really like pinta, so :( i don't know
[21:12] <Sysi> nim0_: window manager settings
[21:12] <nim0_> Sysi, yea thats the place, thx
[21:17] <chrisNYC> gridcube, thanks im going to try a restart. btw did you install mono via Ubuntu software center?
[21:22] <Sysi> surprise, compiz failed
[21:30] <chrisNYC> GridCube, Just noticed that you were right i need Mono 2.0, so i am uninstalling  4.0 now
[21:31] <chrisNYC> Does anyone know how I can install an older version of software? (specifically Mono runtime 2.0)
[21:33] <FerchoLP> chrisNYC: I think that if you have the repo with the 2.0 version, you can force that version in Synaptic
[21:34] <FerchoLP> if you open the package properties and go to the "Versions" tab, there you can force different version than the latest
[21:34] <chrisNYC> ok thanks fercholp
[21:40] <scribus12> Is there a way to disable abality to select different session on startup? I want it to always be xubuntu, not xfce or gnome etc.
[21:41] <chrisNYC> If i want to run an exe file with mono runtime. should i add anything to this terminal entry:   "./file.exe"
[21:42] <knome> chrisNYC, i suppose rather 'mono file.exe' or something, but i'm not really familiar with mono
[21:42] <chrisNYC> I am getting "missing method EnableVisualStyles in assembly"
[21:43] <chrisNYC> type System.Windows.Forms.Application
[21:44] <knome> scribus12, probably via some configuration files, but the easiest way it just not use the other sessions
[21:45] <chrisNYC> Just trying to see if I can get this program working in linux, in which case i will have everything i need to setup my laptop as a linux only machine
[21:46] <chrisNYC> SMath Studio is an nice MathCad alternative, that should work on linux
[21:46] <scribus12> knome: yeah. i'm setting this up for someone else. simpoly don't want them to get frusterated.
[21:47] <Sysi> they never need to select, just use the default
[21:47] <knome> yeah. just tell them not to change the session, simply :)
[21:49] <scribus12> knome: yeah. I used to do tech support in the past. simply telling them not to do something simply doesn't work.
[21:50] <knome> i they go poking the session, they can just change that back to xubuntu
[21:51] <knome> if you want a foolproof system, you probably should be looking at something much much much simpler, because people can just break things anyway.
[21:52] <scribus12> knome: the thing is - that might *uck up other thing. like I've just switched from xubuntu to xfce and back - xubuntu xfce theme got messed up and skype wouldn't start anymore.
[21:53] <knome> maybe you should read about lightdm more then, to get those sessions disabled. btw, even obfuscated non-family-friendly words are not welcome - just saying that you know it in the future too
[21:54] <scribus12> knome: oh....didn't know you guys.... family friendly... lol
[21:56] <knome> scribus12, that's per the guidelines and code of conduct.
[21:56] <knome> scribus12, you did get a notice about the terms of service when joining the channel
[22:01] <xubuntu558> installing xubuntu, give me luck!
[22:01] <knome> xubuntu558, good luck, and have fun
[22:01] <knome> (not that you usually need much *luck*)
[22:02] <xubuntu558> :P
[22:03] <xubuntu558> ubuntu ati support sucks
[22:04] <GridCube> ati linux support sucks
[22:04] <xubuntu558> i need to force vesa driver to install it or i get a black screen :(
[22:06] <scribus12> found it. if anyone else needs it: to disable other sessions -simply rename then from for example /usr/share/xsessions/xfce.conf to xfce.conf.bak
[22:27] <FerchoLP> I'm using compiz, and anytime I clic in the top left corner icon of a Window, window decoration crashes and I have to disable/enable to activate it.
[22:27] <TheSheep> !compiz
[22:28] <Chaoz> so, i just installed xubuntu on my new built server (norco 4220/e8700/8GBRAM/HP 2760RAID) and its not picking up DHCP on eth0
[22:29] <Chaoz> i cant even add a default route.
[22:29] <TheSheep> what's the error?
[22:29] <Chaoz> SICADDRT: No such process
[22:29] <Chaoz> SIOC*
[22:30] <Chaoz> the live CD worked.
[22:32] <TheSheep> Chaoz: did you set the ip address on that device first?
[22:32] <FerchoLP> Oh, I have just solved it by chance:
[22:32] <Chaoz> yes, i did ip addr add 172.16.13.220 dev eth0
[22:33] <FerchoLP> in WIndow Decorator options , I reseted the Command param to default (it was gtk-window-decorator --replace and now it is /usr/bin/compiz-decorator ) and it works fine
[22:59] <xubuntu980> hello world
[22:59] <drc> hello kitty
[23:08] <w30> how can I get different window border themes to take effect? Emerald is not in the repos.
[23:09]  * w30 using compiz
[23:12] <w30> I have one border. Sometimes themes make it change color (sometimes) but not appearance
[23:14] <GridCube> w30, compiz is weird
[23:19] <w30> GridCube, ain't that the truth
[23:19] <GridCube> yep, have you checked whit sccm?
[23:20] <GridCube> !sccm
[23:21] <drc> !ccsm
[23:21] <GridCube> that
[23:21] <GridCube> :D thanks drc
[23:22] <drc> GridCube: np
[23:42] <Satanaa> sup
[23:50] <Deceiver> finally
[23:55] <drc> Deceiver: You are obviously a foreigner here :)
[23:55] <Deceiver> in the terms of IRC.. nope not really :P
[23:55] <Deceiver> scandinavian :)
[23:55] <Deceiver> i got asked to change my nick
[23:55] <Deceiver> and i did, but those others were taken
[23:56] <knome> *coughs* asked to consider changing :)
[23:56] <Deceiver> haha :P
[23:56] <Deceiver> knome, cjcherryh prob though i wa spamming nicks :P
[23:56] <Deceiver> was*
[23:57] <knome> drc, yeah, no problem there :)
[23:57] <drc> not spamming, just a lot of cherryh book titles :)
[23:58] <Deceiver> cherryh is satanic? hehe
[23:58] <knome> btw, #xubuntu-offtopic :]]
[23:59] <Deceiver> time for me to go to bed anyways :P
[23:59] <knome> yeah, i should too..
[23:59]  * drc wonders why knome keeps recommending a non-existent channel?
[23:59] <knome> drc, it's been actually somewhat active in the last days :)