[00:04] <knat> is there a way to run a program from the start menu as root?
[00:17] <vehemoth> knat: you could add another entry for it. or in krunner kdesu then the application name. But that's as best as I can think of
[00:32] <hexacode> hey you guys i use ps -ax to get tasks then i use kill -s 15 pid
[00:32] <hexacode> but they dont work
[00:32] <hexacode> processes are still in ps -ax after i attempt to kill them
[00:33] <hexacode> whats up with that?
[00:33] <vehemoth> you can you the process name with pkill
[00:33] <hexacode> ya but why wont they die my way
[00:34] <vehemoth> The  default signal for kill is TERM.
[00:35] <vehemoth> which means it doesn't kill the program, it just tells it to terminate
[00:35] <vehemoth> which the program can ignore
[00:36] <hexacode> vehemoth:  so how do i kill it then
[00:36] <hexacode> pkill didnt work either
[00:36] <hexacode> ive got these tail processes holding on to dying pipes
[00:36] <hexacode> and they keep spawning them after i remove them
[00:37] <vehemoth> man kill, has some information if you can read it. I'm just looking at it now
[00:37] <hexacode> thanks
[00:37] <vehemoth> kill -9
[00:37] <vehemoth> I think
[00:38] <hexacode> vehemoth:  thanks
[00:38] <hexacode> it worked
[00:39] <vehemoth> cool
[00:39] <vehemoth> hexacode: you any good with dbus?
[00:39] <hexacode> nah why?
[00:40] <vehemoth> hexacode: I'm having trouble with it, just wondering
[00:40] <hexacode> sorry . wish i could help
[00:41] <vehemoth> hexacode: I wish I could find help for plasma-windowed. Anyway good luck with your apache?
[00:42] <hexacode> ya apache
[00:42] <hexacode> thanks
[00:42] <hexacode> what are you working on/
[00:42] <hexacode> ?
[00:42] <vehemoth> getting plasmoids to play nicely outside of kde
[00:43] <hexacode> hmm :P im on gnome so im not even sure wat that is
[00:43] <vehemoth> would be much easier if I knew C and C++ or whatever it's written in
[00:44] <hexacode> hmm ive done a bit of c++ a while ago
[00:44] <vehemoth> I'm suprised your not asking on #ubuntu than, anyway plasmoids are the widget things. like the clock, the menu, the notifications, folders on the desktop
[00:44] <hexacode> and let me guess its using the dbus library?
[00:44] <hexacode> are you developing for plasmoid or you just want it so badly to port over?
[00:44] <vehemoth> well tthere is plasma-windowed
[00:45] <vehemoth> which allows you to run each of the plasmoids in it's own window
[00:45] <vehemoth> I'm just trying to control them better because there's no point in having a menu in it's own window
[00:46] <vehemoth> it's much better to have a button on your bar to open it
[00:46] <vehemoth> same with the calendar
[00:46] <vehemoth> and the notifications go off the screen which I haven't found a fix for yet
[00:51] <Daskreech> vehemoth: You can probably use qdbus
[00:52] <vehemoth> Daskreech: I guessed that, can you help with Could not convert '()' to type 'QVariantList'
[00:53] <vehemoth> I can't find anything that it can convert
[00:53] <Daskreech> Wensley: Not too bad. KDE 2.6 and 3.0 are the same thing
[00:53] <Daskreech> vehemoth: you are converting a null to a list?
[00:54] <vehemoth> I don't want to send it anything as far as I can tell
[00:54] <vehemoth> I can't get it to convert it even if I do send something
[00:55] <vehemoth> Daskreech: http://pastebin.com/kC4Lvnwp this is what I'm trying to do
[00:57] <Daskreech> You are raising a window?
[00:57] <vehemoth> Daskreech: yes
[00:57] <vehemoth> Daskreech: when trying qdbus org.kde.knotify /Notify event string:activate string:kwin "(" ")" string: "(" ")" "(" ")" int32:-1 int64:0
[00:58] <vehemoth> I get an output of 0
[01:05] <Daskreech> Hmm ok
[01:11] <Daskreech> vehemoth: Sorry not paying attention here very much. Maybe #KDE are you trying to get Knotify to send you a message when a window is raised?
[01:11] <vehemoth> Daskreech: but dbus-send tells me it's badly formed
[01:11] <vehemoth> I have a dock, I clicked on the icon that raised firefox
[01:12] <vehemoth> and that's what was in the pastebin
[01:12] <Daskreech> vehemoth: dbus-send and qdbus are different. (granted qdbus is a front end for dbus) but they take different arguments
[01:13] <vehemoth> Daskreech: I know, I was formatting them differently
[01:15] <Daskreech> vehemoth: Ah yep. Not paying attention :)
[01:17] <vehemoth> Daskreech: I think it's just that KDE is too self enclosed XD, it's horrindously difficult to get it to work with other environments
[01:17] <vehemoth> Daskreech: anyway thanks for trying
[01:17] <vehemoth> I'll just go play xmoto as I have spent hours on this and got nowhere
[01:18] <Daskreech> vehemoth: ha ha I've generally found that to be false once you step out of core
[01:18] <Daskreech> vehemoth: what's the objective?
[01:18] <phiscribe> what is a totem like video/streaming player for kde anybody?
[01:19] <phiscribe> besides dragon (no playlist no youtube search ect)
[01:19] <Daskreech> phiscribe: would kaffeine work?
[01:19] <vehemoth> Daskreech: To get the kde menu working outside of kde
[01:20] <Daskreech> vehemoth: is it running in plasma?
[01:20] <vehemoth> Daskreech: well not truelly outside of kde, I still use kwin and krunner
[01:20] <phiscribe> perhaps, might just pull in totem a all its gobble gook, what about getting multimeedia keys o keyboard and remote to work, is there some magic package
[01:20] <Daskreech> the application menus are all plasma based
[01:20] <vehemoth> Daskreech: plasma-windowed, it's fine except for what seems to be a badly rendered drop shadow
[01:21] <Daskreech> vehemoth: ah well that's different #plasma would be the place to ask about that.
[01:22] <vehemoth> http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2010/04/plasmoids-in-windows.html
[01:22] <vehemoth> Daskreech: how many people do you know that use it, there's a bunch of bug reports that they don't seem to care about
[01:23] <Daskreech> I haven't looked but they have been doing a lot of rounds recently for Plasma Active so might be a while till they get back to Bug fixing
[01:23] <Daskreech> About 6 months ago plasma was killing bugs like crazy and currently they are the biggest accumulator of new bugs
[01:24] <vehemoth> hmm
[01:24] <vehemoth> I'm more worried about the notifications plasmoid
[01:24] <vehemoth> that has usablity bugs but renders fine
[01:24] <Daskreech> vehemoth: if you have a bug in particular tell me and I'll follow up for you
[01:24] <phiscribe> what can give the sytem (dolphin i guess mostly) thumbnail views of SVG and Video files?
[01:25] <Daskreech> vehemoth: did you file a usabilty bug? those are collected and addressed at sprints
[01:25] <vehemoth> Daskreech: should I file a bug report and give you a link?
[01:25] <Daskreech> vehemoth: if one doesn't exist
[01:25] <vehemoth> Daskreech: I'm going to see if I can solve the notifications one through dbus or something else first
[01:25] <Daskreech> phiscribe: I think that strigi does that unless it's too large a file
[01:26] <Daskreech> vehemoth: what are you trying to get done? Just give me the workflow. I'll try see if I can get an answer by tomorrow
[01:26] <phiscribe> ah i fogot Daskreech, fresh install i bet its file size
[01:26] <vehemoth> it's that you can't seem to set an area that they stay in, like in plasma-desktop you cna drag them around but the won't go over the bar or out of the screen
[01:27] <Daskreech> vehemoth: Ah and if that's not tehre then they have no constraints?
[01:27] <Daskreech> and dbus popups are a little problematic ?
[01:28] <vehemoth> well, the little windows are the right size. but there's a controller window that sets the top and left limit. nothing seems to set the bottom and right
[01:28] <vehemoth> they work fine on the left side on the screen
[01:28] <vehemoth> but not on the right or the bottom
[01:33] <vehemoth> https://bugs.kde.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=plasma-windowed
[01:33] <vehemoth> Daskreech: though there does seem to be a lot of bug reports for notifications
[01:34] <vehemoth> I'll read through a few, some at a glance seem to cover it
[01:34] <Daskreech> vehemoth: ok if you can vote on them and jsut shoot me the bug numbers
[01:35] <vehemoth> sweet as
[01:40] <vehemoth> how long ago was notifications update. a lot of these bug reports are very old
[01:43] <profesor> hola
[01:43] <profesor> adios
[01:43] <profesor> hola
[01:43] <well_laid_lawn> !es
[01:59] <vehemoth> Daskreech: I think notifications has been updated since the bugs that deal with my problem so the problem will be different. I'm going to open a new bug report
[01:59] <Daskreech> vehemoth: Fair enough
[02:17] <vehemoth> Daskreech: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=285225
[02:17] <vehemoth> thank you
[02:17] <vehemoth> if the kde notifications didn't look so dammed nice I wouldn't be here :)
[02:19] <phiscribe> yeah hehe kde is good looking (high maintainece though)
[02:21] <phiscribe> i want the flash on this system, i wanna look flashy for visitors hehe
[02:22] <vehemoth> phiscribe: yeah, I originally installed it to show off how good linux could look and now I use it full time
[02:22] <vehemoth> phiscribe: might have to go back to my tiling WM to be truelly productive again :)
[02:23] <phiscribe> hey i was using chrome in 11.04 and it was screwy with sync and extensions, it would never update them or sense they were updated, do i need to go to another system and remove them ya think?  maybe chromium
[02:25] <phiscribe> unlike many i like google trackng my ever move
[02:26] <vehemoth> not a clue. I use firefox, you can always try it though
[03:01] <Daskreech> vehemoth: kwin does tiling if that's what you want
[03:02] <vehemoth> Daskreech: where did that come from
[03:03] <Daskreech> [22:22] <vehemoth> phiscribe: might have to go back to my tiling WM to be truelly productive again :)
[03:05] <phiscribe> i remember productive
[03:05] <vehemoth> oh, yeah I know. But unless it can do stumpwm quality... anyway I'm enjoying using my mouse for a while. It's just that kde I'm spending so much time customising :)
[03:06] <Daskreech> vehemoth: Lol I know I spent like 3 years customizing Linux when I first started. tweaked the bells and cron out of everything
[03:08] <vehemoth> Daskreech: guess I've got a while to go than, though I've done some pretty awesome stuff like automatice theme switching that matched the automatic wallpaper switching so it all tied in nicely
[03:10] <vehemoth> man there are getting to be some awesome linux games
[03:12] <Daskreech> Yep
[03:12] <Daskreech>  happypenguin.org
[03:12] <vehemoth> you a gamer?
[03:13] <vehemoth> up for a game of xonotic?
[03:20] <phiscribe> games? linux?  blblblawablblawa huh?
[03:20] <SIR_Taco> phiscribe: just read all that myself haha
[03:22] <phiscribe> guess we gotta name him to call him out, hey vehemoth, what cho talking about willus
[03:23] <vehemoth> Xonotic
[03:24] <vehemoth> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1JNLBJMB14&feature=related
[03:24] <vehemoth> some levels have vehicles
[03:26] <SIR_Taco> ah, not what I was expecting, but nice
[03:33] <phiscribe> vehemoth: is it dependant on your mahcines speed, that is if your machine is average and his is super, are you gonna get fragged day and night
[03:37] <phiscribe> dikikam looks like linux final got a full featured image manager
[03:41] <vehemoth> phiscribe: I don't know where that came from but I'll probably get fragged anyway. I don't actually play games much
[03:42] <phiscribe> vehemoth: some 1st pesons are very senstive to lag and processing power, if your system doesnt match your oppenent, the delay will be unequitable, but not all games just some, seems like more so in linux
[03:43] <vehemoth> phiscribe: oh, I think it also depends on skill, but gear certainly gives an advantage
[03:44] <phiscribe> given equivalent skills, but a good game design mitigates that
[03:46] <vehemoth> phiscribe: okay, well I assume my machine isn't too good when I get 30fps sometimes dropping to as low as 7 on that game near max settings
[03:46] <vehemoth> seeing as the makers say it's roughly 2006 graphics or something
[03:47] <phiscribe> i might try it another day, need to avoid games for a bit, (crap to do do do), plus i got startcraft lurking in the wings
[03:48] <vehemoth> nice
[03:50] <phiscribe> man does digikam INSIST on all the images being in one folder??? i got folders over 3 local drives and 10 network ones i want to manager
[03:51]  * phiscribe discovers #digikam
[03:54] <Daskreech> :-)
[03:54] <Daskreech> phiscribe: Does it?
[04:29] <phiscribe> Daskreech: it seems to :(
[04:32] <Daskreech> phiscribe: lol the frist tooltip I get on opening it tells me I can have remote images in the collection
[04:32] <Daskreech> phiscribe: And indeed they are right there. What version of Digikam?
[04:33] <phiscribe> frudge the manaul is a version behind
[04:34] <phiscribe> 2.1.1 but the manual seems like from 1.2
[04:34] <Daskreech> Ah I'm on 2.2
[04:35] <phiscribe> i want 2.2, i want the facial reck
[04:35] <Daskreech> Grab it
[04:35] <phiscribe> but when i add a  ppa (last time i tried with 11.04) it fouled up my world
[04:39] <phiscribe> need a better ppa it would seem
[04:39] <phiscribe> or compile, but i dont want to have to comile all the kipi stuff too
[04:44] <phiscribe> Daskreech: ok the changlog shows digikam (2:2.1.1-0ubuntu1) oneiric; but about shows Version 2.1.1
[04:44] <phiscribe> so is that 2.2 or not
[04:45] <Daskreech> That's 2.1
[04:45] <Daskreech> ignore the number before the :
[04:45] <phiscribe> did you compile your?
[04:54] <Daskreech> Nope
[04:55] <Daskreech> Don't know how I got it. I just opened it awhile ago but I'm normally pretty far ahead on the upgrade cycle
[04:55] <Daskreech> Round about now I'd normally be on KDE 4.8
[05:03] <phiscribe> id love the cutting edge if it werent so bloody
[05:07] <Daskreech> phiscribe: Guess you love the dull edge then :)
[05:10] <phiscribe> Daskreech: depends on the enviroment, working hard, dull means solid, stationary, successfull, i dont want my os to be a moving target as dependable as spanish fly on a date, (not very),  if im nerding out i want it to puke technology from the cpu u thru the lan and back to the dev's brain while i laugh gleefuly
[05:10] <Daskreech> Sounds a lot like having two (maybe three) computers then
[05:10] <phiscribe> i got 5 atm
[05:11] <phiscribe> well 6 if you count the PII, but its out to pasture
[05:16] <Daskreech> So it's on the snoring edge?
[05:20] <phiscribe> good for streaming audio, about all i do with it
[05:21] <phiscribe> im bummed out, my web cam go crushed ....eyeballing the super glue
[05:21] <Daskreech> how?
[05:22] <phiscribe> im moving stuff arond, just built an office, a box got laid on it
[05:22] <phiscribe> i get a cot tonight, the bed isnt even asemebled
[05:30] <Wensley> phiscribe: sounds totally awesome
[05:30] <phiscribe> yeah!
[05:30] <Wensley> just built my own office as well
[05:31] <Wensley> *high five*
[05:31] <Wensley> just today switched out the cardboard box desk for a random piece of furniture
[05:31] <phiscribe> x^5
[05:32] <phiscribe> well i got a 13 inch tv going! so i can listen to something as i lay in my cot
[05:34] <phiscribe> i think im near my crash zone  *yawn*
[05:35] <phiscribe> gnight
[05:38] <Daskreech> Night
[06:12] <SiegeLord> Anyone have trouble installing the Catalyst driver (11.9) in 11.10?
[06:13] <SiegeLord> After installing, if I run aticonfig it complains that it can't find libGL.so.1
[07:17] <WyCKyD>  Installed kubuntu 11.10 3 days ago and I have a wireless adapter (Linksys AE1000 USB) I had it installed on 11.04 but when I try to install it, I get a message saying that make is not installed. I can't get make because the wifi is my only internet connection and don't have internet until I compile the linksys driver
[07:19] <WyCKyD> Doesn't make get installed when you install kubuntu?
[07:19] <vehemoth> no anymore I think
[07:20] <WyCKyD> @vehemoth any ideas on how to get it installed? Thx for responding and helping
[07:21] <vehemoth> you can download the .deb from the repository
[07:21] <WyCKyD> I can access my windows drive through kubuntu, if I can download the package on windows, I could install it through kubuntu
[07:21] <vehemoth> you can also use apt-get to download but not install
[07:22] <vehemoth> http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[07:22] <WyCKyD> I can't download in kubuntu, because no internet. I have to do it through winblows
[07:23] <WyCKyD> let me check that...brb...thx again
[07:24] <ubuntu> hy i install upgrade to kubuntu 11.10 - and have crash, system run but without network (i have lan connection) and many errors, now im on live kubuntu on this computer can sombady help my fix it ?
[07:27] <vehemoth> ubuntu: I can't think of anything other than fressh install
[07:28] <WyCKyD> vehemoth: the dependencies are going to drive me crazy, but I will do it. Thanks very much for your help
[07:29] <vehemoth> WyCKyD: yeah, I've tried it before
[07:29] <ubuntu> hm, i havce manyu settings i dont want lost it
[07:29] <ubuntu> is not possibloe to check packages from live ?
[07:31] <frogonwheels> ubuntu: a fresh install but copying your home dir  (esp .kde) works pretty well.  I did this from 32bit to 64bit linux with few issues.
[07:33] <ubuntu> i know but i talk abouit php, apache2, dns, lan, 1 wire network settings this is not user this is system settings
[07:37] <ubuntu> mayby is possbible chrot to this distro and fix it ?
[07:47] <ubuntu> http://wklej.to/LUS9i
[07:47] <ubuntu> i weant mount
[07:47] <ubuntu> http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/06/02/how-to-chroot-to-ubuntu-using-live-cd-to-fix-grub-rescue-prompt/
[07:54] <ubuntu> i teraz od razu apt-get update ?
[07:54] <ubuntu> no od razu bledyu
[07:55] <ubuntu> http://wklej.to/clyht
[09:20] <Sysi> creative audigy2, on kubuntu 10.10 - 11.10 I only get grey noise from speakers, with and withput pulseaudio, on xubuntu working normally with and without pulseaudio
[09:20] <Sysi> kubuntu 10.04 without pulseaudio worked normally
[09:21] <Sysi> I tested 11.10 from liveusb, worked when playing html5 audio/video with rekonq but broke to only grey noise when entered sound preferences
[09:26] <Sysi> works on fedora KDE, 14 or 15, same kde version than one of non-working kubuntus
[09:29] <mirrakor> Hi there, is there a way to stop akonadi asking for the kwalletpassword on every sessionstartup?
[11:08] <alexdevillx> installing ubuntu on my android....
[11:21] <nicolas_> Hi everyone
[11:21] <mirrakor> Hi nicolas_
[11:22] <mirrakor> Can someone please test a mailto link in KDE(i.e. any KDE app should have some in the about dialog) and tell me if kmail opens a new mail with a recipient? (cause it only opens blank mails for me)
[11:23] <nicolas_> I have a problem with thunderbird and gmail. When I write an email, it seems like thunderbird automatically sends it every 5 minute or so, but it is not visible to me (the window doesn't close...).
[11:24] <nicolas_> This can be very embarassing, when the first draft is sent
[11:24] <nicolas_> It seems like the problem is only with my gmail account and not with my professional one. Is it related to IMAP?
[11:25] <nicolas_> If anyone have a clue it would be great
[11:27] <mirrakor> nicolas_:  sorry, I didn't get it :D
[11:27] <nicolas_> mirrakor: I'm using Thunderbird, and I do have the email address in the email field (just tested) when I click on mailtos
[11:27] <mirrakor> yeah, that's how it should be *gg*
[11:27] <mirrakor> So thunderbird sends your mail while you're writing it?
[11:28] <nicolas_> mirrakor: yes!
[11:28] <nicolas_> mirrakor: I guess you guess how embarassing this can be
[11:29] <mirrakor> are you sure? (like start composing a new mail, type in some "foobar" and leave it open for ten minutes)
[11:29] <mirrakor> Cause I think he's checking for new mails every 5 minutes
[11:29] <nicolas_> of course there is the solution of writing the mail in kate and then copy paste... but i'd like it to work properly
[11:30] <nicolas_> well, I just wrote a mail and there are 5 versions in my sent box
[11:32] <nicolas_> maybee there's a shortcut that I hit not on purpose when I write, that sends the message
[11:32] <mirrakor> Probably Strg+S or Strg+Enter, but that should close the mail as well
[11:33] <mirrakor> nicolas_: This is a very odd behavior - I presume your gmail account is connected via IMAP?! (Unfortunately I have to leave now, but will be back later, to open a new mail, write one of your email addresses in the TO field (Not your Gmail address!) and let it open for 15 minutes, to verify this issue :) )
[11:33] <mirrakor> Cause maybe it is just some strange "draft" syncing thing
[11:34] <nicolas_> Ok, thank you
[11:34] <nicolas_> I'll try sending from my gmail to my professional address
[11:34] <nicolas_> as you said leaving it for 15 min
[11:35] <mirrakor> nicolas_: yes, this is to verify it actually sends the mails and not just some syncing to your gmail account thing
[11:35] <nicolas_> mirrakor: ok ;-)
[11:36] <mirrakor> actually this interests me :D are you around again this evening?
[11:40] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:42] <mirrakor> hi and bye BluesKaj
[12:17] <kerloi> Hi all. I just obtained a big printer from a friend, I'm trying to make it work on kubuntu but I have some real weird problems while printing (no color, character errors ...) and I can't make the scanner work either. I know very few things about how printer and scanner are managed under linux so I'm a bit lost ...
[12:17] <lelamal_> hi all, I have problems with audio levels. When I try to change volume levels with kmix, nothing changes. I can go all the way down and mute it, but as soon as I raise it a little bit it's as if it were already at maximum level. If I keep raising it, the volume remains the same. Volume from Amarok works flawessly, instead. Can anyone help me please?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> !scanner
[12:19] <BluesKaj> lelamal_, open alsamixer in the terminal and make sure none of the ctrl boxes are muted with an "M" , use the "M" key to unmute and the arrow keys to navigate and increase or decrease the volume
[12:19] <kerloi> Ok so I suppose that if the brand name doesn't appear on the list, I have no chance to make it work :(
[12:20] <BluesKaj> kerloi, lexmark ?
[12:20] <kerloi> BluesKaj: konica
[12:21] <lelamal_> BluesKaj: thanks for that I'll try it now
[12:24] <BluesKaj> kerloi, almost as rare as lexmark in terms of support
[12:24] <kerloi> the sane project says that the model 1690MF is supported and I have the 1680MF so maybe I can have a chance with that ?
[12:24] <lelamal_> BluesKaj: I've checked the levels and they look just fine. I get the same result when I control the volume level in alsa via master
[12:26] <natman> hi, anyone having problems with muon update icons?
[12:27] <lelamal_> BluesKaj: but when I control it via PCM or Surround I get a smooth correct fade in/out
[12:28] <lelamal_> is there a way I can control volume this correct way from kmix as well?
[12:28] <BluesKaj> lelamal_, ok , I use the volume ctrl on my speaker system , and have all the software ctrls maxxed
[12:29] <BluesKaj> lelamal_, yeah the digital vol ctrl works well
[12:30] <lelamal_> BluesKaj: I see, I just hoped I could fix this kmix issue
[12:30] <jogdish> hi, anyone having problems with muon update icons?
[12:30] <Sysi> lelamal_: can't you set "master channel" in kmix preferences?
[12:30] <BluesKaj> kmix is just a gui for alsamixer , they're linked, lelamal_
[12:31] <lelamal_> BluesKaj: I see
[12:31] <lelamal_> Sysi: nope, I remember once there was a way to choose the master channel, but can't see it anymore
[12:32] <BluesKaj> lelamal_, do you have pulseaudio installed . maybe pavucontrol will help if you do
[12:33] <lelamal_> BluesKaj: I guess I have it, it's a fresh installation of Oneiric
[12:33] <BluesKaj> lel the kmix vol ctrl is the master channel
[12:33] <BluesKaj> lelamal_,^
[12:35] <kamilnadeem> hi
[12:35] <kamilnadeem> BlesKaj you there ?
[12:35] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj*
[12:36] <BluesKaj> yeah kamilnadeem ?
[12:36] <kamilnadeem> I have done a fresh install of kubuntu 11.10 but the automute on startup is still there
[12:36] <kamilnadeem> I have opened alsamixer and disabled automute
[12:37] <kamilnadeem> but what was teh command you said to run after that I don't remember?
[12:37] <lelamal_> BluesKaj: I only have this on kmix, which is the master channel, and even if I try to change it from the menu there are no other options: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/37/snapshot1mu.png/
[12:39] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, sudo alsactl store
[12:40] <kamilnadeem> thanks blueskaj
[12:40] <kamilnadeem> also what was the file to install to get preview of Video files in dolphin?
[12:41] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, there's no guarantee that command will hold if you have pulseaudio
[12:41] <kamilnadeem> well it worked previous lets see :)
[12:44] <BluesKaj> lelamal , you can set the master in alsamixer using the arrow keys
[12:47] <kamilnadeem> remembered it , ffmpegthumbs it was :)
[12:48] <kamilnadeem> ok will be taking your leave now
[12:48] <kamilnadeem> bye
[12:54] <lelamal_> BluesKaj: please bear with me, I'm a noob. Let me see if I got this right. Do you mean I can change master channel in alsa? Meaning I can make PCM master channel? And if so, how do I use the arrow keys to make this change?
[12:54] <BluesKaj> crank up the pcm
[12:55] <lelamal_> it's all up
[12:55] <BluesKaj> with up/dowm arrow key, navigate alsamixer with the < > keys
[12:56] <lelamal_> so basically if I want to turn volume up/down, rather than using kmix I should use a konsole and call up alsa, is this what you're implying?
[12:57] <lelamal_> BluesKaj: ^
[12:58] <BluesKaj> lelamal_, no if you turn the kmix down alsa master should also go down ...at least it used to work that way. I use the spdif digital out so I'm not entirely sure  anymore ...I don't have speaker connected
[12:59] <BluesKaj> speakers
[12:59] <BluesKaj> to my soundcard
[12:59] <lelamal_> yes, it goes down in fact. Well I see. Thanks for your help, BluesKaj
[13:00] <BluesKaj> lelamal_, np , here's to musical enjoyment :)
[13:00] <lelamal_> :)
[13:13] <kamilnadeem> Hi
[13:13] <kamilnadeem> how to get preview of video files in dolphin/?
[13:17] <Nova685> how do you change the icon them in kubuntu 11.10 since its not under system/appearances?
[13:17] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, open with then choose your player and make the file association by checking "remember application association of this type..."
[13:17] <Nova685> theme*
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Nova685,system settings>application appearance>icons
[13:19] <Nova685> just said its not there
[13:19] <Nova685> it may be in 11.04 but not in 11.10
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Nova685, "get new themes"
[13:20] <Nova685> oh "application" ....
[13:21] <Nova685> thx
[13:23] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj I have made it to run with smplayer , still no preview of video files?
[13:24] <kamilnadeem> last time installing the ffmpegthumbs did it , i dont get why it is not working this time around?
[13:25] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, is ffmpeg thmbnails installed ?
[13:25] <kamilnadeem> yeah
[13:26] <kamilnadeem> well ffmpeg is not installed , is that the reason?
[13:28] <kamilnadeem> well still not working after installing ffmpeg
[13:28] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, did you install ffmpeg thumbnailer as well ?
[13:29] <kamilnadeem> no only ffmpegthumbs , so do I install thumbnailer?
[13:29] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg needs to be installed yes, best to just install kubuntu-restricted-extras and the medibuntu repos
[13:29] <BluesKaj> !medibuntu
[13:30] <kamilnadeem> there ffmpegthumbnailer and kffmpegthumbnailer , which one to install?
[13:31] <kamilnadeem> also I have installed kubunt restricted extras
[13:32] <kamilnadeem> so no need for the medibuntu?
[13:33] <BluesKaj> read about medibuntu , then decide
[13:33] <kamilnadeem> ok and whcih thumbnailer my friend?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg
[13:34] <kamilnadeem> ok done
[13:35] <BluesKaj> ffmpeg is essentail
[13:35] <BluesKaj> bbl...stuff to do
[13:35] <kamilnadeem> yeah had installled it previously
[13:35] <kamilnadeem> nope no preview
[13:35] <BluesKaj> BBL
[13:36] <kamilnadeem> ok
[13:36] <kamilnadeem> I will restart and see
[13:36] <kamilnadeem> thanks
[13:57] <alexandru1012> hello
[13:58] <alexandru1012> can someone give me a .deb for installing kernel 2.6.39.4-generic-pae
[13:58] <kamilnadeem> how to get preview of video files in dolphin?
[13:58] <kamilnadeem> have installed ffmpegthumbs and other stuff but still no luck ?
[13:58] <kamilnadeem> brb
[13:59] <alexandru1012> hello
[14:01] <mas_> whats up everyone
[14:16] <kamilnadeem> I am back
[14:16] <kamilnadeem> yeah so anyhelp on getting preview of video files in dolphin
[14:17] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, open with gwenview?
[14:17] <kamilnadeem> open .flv file with gwenview
[14:18] <kamilnadeem> yes opened it
[14:19] <kamilnadeem> BluesKaj still nothing
[14:19] <kamilnadeem> brb
[14:23] <lelamal_> kamilnadeem: you can play the preview of a video/audio file from the information panel in Dolphin. If by preview you mean thumbnail, then I don't know.
[14:24] <BluesKaj> kamilnadeem, right click on the file , "open with" , choose multimedia>dragonplyer or vlc whatever you have in the list , then check remember file association, cliclk ok.
[14:25] <BluesKaj> seems obsessed with thumbnails for some reason
[14:26] <oxymoron> How do I prevent laptop in Kubuntu from hybernate, blackout screen when watching movie in VLC for instance?
[14:27] <BluesKaj> oxymoron, turn off the screensaver
[14:28] <oxymoron> BluesKaj: I want screensaver, just not when I am using programs like VLC
[14:29] <Peace-> oxymoron: you need to configure vlc i guess
[14:30] <oxymoron> Peace-: I do not find any setting to provent Kubuntu from blackout screen in VLC unfortuantly.
[14:30] <oxymoron> it is not really nice when looking on a movie and suddenly computer just goes black.
[14:31] <Peace-> oxymoron: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/29/plasma-desktopZm1348.jpg
[14:31] <Peace-> oxymoron: google vlc screensaver
[14:31] <Peace-> ...
[14:32] <lelamal_> oxymoron: as far as I can remember it's an old bug in VLC. It shouldn't happen with another player, say dragon player. Try it.
[14:33] <lorenza> hi
[14:33] <oxymoron> Peace-: I checked now and have that setting on, prevent supending on inactivity, does not help.
[14:34] <oxymoron> lelamal_: IMO Kubuntu itself could check if any video players are running or so, and prevent itself from going into screen svaer mode.
[14:34] <kamilnadeem> I am back
[14:35] <kamilnadeem> lelamal I mean the thumbnail
[14:35] <lelamal_> kamilnadeem: then I don't know, sorry
[14:35] <kamilnadeem> no prob
[14:40] <Peace-> oxymoron: xdg-screensaver suspend $WINDOWID
[14:41] <kamilnadeem> Hi Peace
[14:41] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: hi
[14:41] <kamilnadeem> you have chosen such a beautiful nick :)
[14:42] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: that is my nick on irc on wordpress  i am nowardev
[14:42] <Peace-> xD
[14:43] <kamilnadeem> ok
[14:43] <kamilnadeem> Peace have you enabled preview of video files dolphin ?
[14:44] <Peace-> of course
[14:44] <kamilnadeem> how?
[14:44] <kamilnadeem> I am trying ffmpegthumbs but it is not working
[14:44] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: ok it's installed ?
[14:45] <Peace->  sudo apt-get install kffmpegthumbnailer
[14:45] <kamilnadeem> ok installing
[14:45] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: then you have to go on dolphin settings ... and activate that
[14:46] <kamilnadeem> how>?
[14:46] <Peace-> it's made for old computer so ... to get a ligher file manager they did this stuff...
[14:46] <Peace-> http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/29/plasma-desktopzS1348.jpg
[14:46] <Peace-> see the screenshot
[14:47] <kamilnadeem> thanks brother , finally :)
[14:47] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: read my blog
[14:48] <kamilnadeem> ok , going to check it
[14:48] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/usefull-link-for-kubuntu-and-multimedia-stuff/setkubuntuproperly/
[14:48] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: if you have a fast computer you don't need the first stuff...
[14:48] <Peace-> just check what you need to install and how to configure dolphin
[14:48] <oxymoron> Hi, I get permission error 403 when trying to access my Dropbox folder, which has group www-data and owner is me. How to get apache to get permissions to read folder correctly?
[14:49] <kamilnadeem> excellent blog title
[14:50] <Peace-> oxymoron: if you are owner ... you can access
[14:51] <Peace-> .. i can't undestand well the problem btw
[14:51] <kamilnadeem> Peace my desktop is fairly well put for linux(2.4gh core2duo,2gb ram, xfx9800gt card)
[14:51] <Peace-> if you have a dropbox folder ...  you have a folder in your computer ...
[14:52] <Peace-> that is syncronized with the server of dropbox
[14:52] <Peace-> so ...
[14:52] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: you don't need to speed it .. i guess it should be working well
[14:52] <Peace-> and fast
[14:52] <kamilnadeem> yeah
[14:52] <oxymoron> Peace-: The permission is myself as owner and www-data as group, to make both myself and apache able to read from it, but wont work. I exeperienced trouble with this earlier, but do not remember how to fix
[14:53] <kamilnadeem> Peace my previous installation was working fine until I installed ubuntu-one and it all  got messed up . that is why had to do a new installation
[14:53] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: ubuntu one?
[14:54] <Peace-> sorry i su dropbox
[14:54] <Peace-> well.. kfiledrop
[14:54] <Peace-> or something like that
[14:55] <kamilnadeem> yeah , but jupiter broadcasting guys took kubuntu and canonical to task for this reason
[14:55] <oxymoron> Peace-: Possible to make apache2 to use myself as user/group instead of www-data?
[14:56] <Peace-> oxymoron: sorry i dunno well apache2 but i guess it should be a file.conf for apache...
[14:56] <Peace-> !apache
[14:56] <kamilnadeem> Also you have mentioned recorditnow but it is not as good as recordmydesktop as I tried it in my previous install also there is no qt-recordmydesktop in the repos
[14:58] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: you don't need of that software btw...
[14:58] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: i guess is faster this ... from shell
[14:58] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2011/05/23/how-to-screencast/
[14:59] <kamilnadeem> thanks
[15:00] <kamilnadeem> Peace check this http://i.imgur.com/mGAl8.png
[15:00] <kamilnadeem> I have installed kfaenza but the chromium doesn't uses it for its folder
[15:01] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: i am sorry but for that kind of stuff i  will call me a complete noob
[15:01] <Peace-> :)
[15:01] <Fallballa> firefox doesn't use theme as well
[15:01] <kamilnadeem> it is not a biggie
[15:01] <kamilnadeem> :)
[15:01] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: maybe you need to install the theme for gtk appliocation
[15:01] <Peace-> i mean faenza
[15:02] <kamilnadeem> ok
[15:03] <Peace-> gnome-icon theme faenza somethign like that
[15:03] <Peace-> but i am not sure about that
[15:04] <kamilnadeem> Peace on my previous install I had added the kubuntu ppa to get 4.7.2 but this time I updated and I am on 4.7.2 , but rekonq is still not .8
[15:04] <kamilnadeem> which version of reconkq do you have on your system
[15:06] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: i use a ppa for rekonq
[15:06] <Peace-> but for me rekonq sucks
[15:06] <Peace-> i use chromium \konqueror
[15:06] <kamilnadeem> I also have chromium and firefox
[15:06] <Peace-> and when i have to print selection ... firefox
[15:07] <Peace-> suck sad thing
[15:07] <Peace-> -suck
[15:07] <Peace-> :D
[15:07] <Peace-> such
[15:07] <Peace-> :D
[15:11] <Mesaph> I just installed the new kubuntu on my netbook, but it already crashed 3 times. Where can i find the logs? (was something about "panic occured, switching back to text console")
[15:12] <mas_> sound like the video card or other hardware related issue
[15:12] <Peace-> Mesaph: /var/log
[15:13] <Mesaph> thx
[15:13] <Peace-> Mesaph: for X
[15:13] <Peace-> Mesaph: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:13] <Peace-> that should be the file
[15:14] <Mesaph> it happened 3 times on various activities on the laptop ... i hope i find something useful in the log file ...
[15:14] <Peace-> Mesaph: video card?
[15:15] <kamilnadeem> did you guys checked this magazine http://fullcirclemagazine.org/issue-54/
[15:15] <kamilnadeem> I find them to be excellent
[15:15] <Mesaph> Peace: Intel graphics media accelerator 950
[15:16] <Peace-> Mesaph: mm wtf it should work fine
[15:16] <oxymoron> Peace-: i still do ntot get it, I changed User and Group to Oxymoron in apache2 httpd.conf directives and all files changed to correct mode for user/group Oxymoron, STILL DO NOT work at all? I just get permission error in log. Just permission denied
[15:16] <Mesaph> Peace: cant find anything in the Xorg.0.log
[15:17] <Peace-> oxymoron: sorry like i said before i don't know about apache
[15:17] <Peace-> Mesaph: ls /var/log/  | grep -i xorg
[15:18] <oxymoron> Peace-: Sorry nvm, I did a apache2 reload instead of restart after last change, now it works :D
[15:18] <mas_> oxy are you using the default location ?
[15:18] <mas_> k
[15:18] <Mesaph> Xorg.0.log Xorg.0.log.old
[15:19] <Mesaph> Peace: searched both files for "panic occured", nothing found
[15:19] <Mesaph> mmh gotta go. But thanks for the help, will continue trying later.
[15:21] <oxymoron> mas_: yes
[15:22] <kamilnadeem> Peace can you direct to me to some kubunutu cutomisation sites other than kde-look so I get some beautification for my my desktop
[15:23] <mas_> Thanks kamilnadeem , i will check out full circle
[15:23] <kamilnadeem> okay mas_
[15:25] <BluesKaj> full circle is mostly "ubuntu" stuff , not much kde
[15:26] <kamilnadeem> Yes and by the virtue of that kubuntu and every buntu comes under their stream , thet provide some really informative stuff
[15:27] <kamilnadeem> they*
[15:33] <oxymoron> This makes me nuts, next problem. How to install phpmyadmin? After I installed it, localhost/phpmyadmin does not work, it does not find the alias provided my phpmyadmin package, like apache do not know about it. How to configure apache2 for phpmyadmin?
[15:33] <serge_> serge1969
[15:34] <Peace-> oxymoron: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/phpMyAdmin
[15:35] <oxymoron> Peace-: Thanks, finally worked :)
[15:36] <kamilnadeem> Peace which cloud service do you use on kubuntu in the wake of ubuntu-one not working ?
[15:36] <darthanubis> owncloud
[15:37] <darthanubis> when is owncloud going to be updated in the repos though?
[15:37] <oxymoron> Peace-: Awesome, now rewrite module doesnt work :D Will never ever be able to start coding on my framework agani.
[15:37] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: i use dropbox that has an interface for kde is calle kfiledrop
[15:37] <Peace-> called
[15:37] <kamilnadeem> ok
[15:38] <Peace-> btw i use the broser to upload stuff :)
[15:39] <kamilnadeem> Ok , did you check that minus cloud service ?
[15:40] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: minus?
[15:40] <kamilnadeem> yeah , https://minus.com
[15:42] <Peace-> i really don0t need so much space because i use yotube for my pubblic video...  for the other stuff music and so on i use my own 2Tera disk and for the other stuff i use dropbox
[15:43] <Peace-> i prefer keep my stuff on My computer hard disk
[15:43] <jamil_1> hi all, sound is coming from only one speaker on my dell laptop
[15:43] <Peace-> you know that if that server is on the usa they can controll datas without so much problem ?
[15:43] <jamil_1> suggestions ?
[15:43] <Peace-> jamil_1: before worked fine?
[15:44] <Peace-> upgraded\first time you installed linux ?\or \or \or?
[15:44] <jamil_1> Peace-: I am running the live cd
[15:44] <Peace-> alsamixer -V all
[15:44] <jamil_1> Peace-: I am planning to install kubuntu
[15:46] <Peace-> jamil_1: try this
[15:46] <Peace-> speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -twav -l1
[15:46] <Peace-> on a konsole
[15:46] <kamilnadeem> Peace: I also don't use cloud service heavily but it was good in ubuntu to ubuntu one as it synced my tomboy notes and some files
[15:46] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: well on amarok you can create your own database i guess
[15:47] <Peace-> or something like that
[15:47] <Peace-> but i don't really use that kind of stuff
[15:47] <jamil_1> Peace-: right, left comes out only from one speaker
[15:47] <kamilnadeem> Peace also your point is correct of our data is not ours when it is on the cloud , RMS has written well on it and even larrythefreesoftware guy has affirmed it
[15:48] <Peace-> jamil_1: on my computer that command speaks front left FORM THE left and front right on the right
[15:48] <jamil_1> Peace-: but in my case, right, left comes only from left speaker
[15:49] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: the point is ... if you need your datas around the globe you can buy a hd with 60bucks and go with it around the world
[15:49] <jogdish> hi, does anyone know anything about muon and what time it looks for updates?
[15:49] <Peace-> jamil_1: well i will suggest to install kubuntu ... and then fix the problem with a live cd ... it's quite difficult try to fix it
[15:49] <kamilnadeem> jogdish on startup if I am not mistaken
[15:50] <jamil_1> Peace-: I dont want to get stuck later
[15:51] <jogdish> kamilnadeem: okay this is weird, i have done apt-get update and apt-get dist.... it tells me there is a tzdata update availible for me, but yet no icon in the taskbar from muon, pc has been on for 3hrs now
[15:51] <kamilnadeem> I also installed tzdata , and it worked fine for me
[15:52] <jogdish> do you get update icons from muon?
[15:52] <jogdish> like the little green gear cog from kpackage kit used to be my icon
[15:53] <kamilnadeem> yes on startup if there are any updates and Icon in system notification
[15:53] <jogdish> umm :( no icon for me
[15:53] <kamilnadeem> yeah the same thing only it leads muon package manager now
[15:53] <Peace-> jogdish: lspci | grep -i audio
[15:53] <kamilnadeem> and after that sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean
[15:54] <kamilnadeem> I do this regularly, keeps the system fresh
[15:54] <jogdish> what will that do Peace-?
[15:55] <Peace-> jogdish: kid i have not time to explain every command i suggest you
[15:55] <kamilnadeem> Peace: yeah , I purchased a transcend 640gb ext hd , also have an  1tb Internal hd on which Ubuntu 11.10 and a 160gn hd on which yours truly kubuntu 11.10 is installed :)
[15:55] <Peace-> jogdish: just trust me ....
[15:55] <kamilnadeem> Haha Peace
[15:55] <kamilnadeem> yeah jogdish trust him
[15:56] <jamil_1> Peace-: if command was for me: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio (rev 06)
[15:56] <jogdish> jamil_1:  yeah im guessing the command was not for, dont have any audio issues
[15:58] <Peace-> jamil_1: ok read this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1483578.html the situation can be fixed
[15:59] <jogdish> so does anyone have any idea why muon is not alerting me that updates are availible?
[16:01] <Peace-> jogdish: have you disabled the daemon?
[16:02] <Peace-> jogdish: search on systemsettings service manager
[16:02] <Peace-> jogdish: http://wstaw.org/m/2011/10/29/plasma-desktopsC1348.jpg
[16:03] <jogdish> ya muon is ticked for startup
[16:03] <Peace-> jogdish: try apper
[16:03] <jogdish> the program works fine, just never alerts me for updates, i checked the settings in muon to alert me
[16:03] <Peace-> jogdish: i don't know  muon , and i don0t like it btw
[16:03] <jogdish> Peace-: apper?
[16:04] <Peace-> is the old kpackagekit
[16:04] <jogdish> another package manager?
[16:04] <Peace-> i really use sudo apt-get upgrade
[16:04] <Peace-> but...
[16:04] <Peace-> sometime i like user apper
[16:06] <jogdish> Peace-:  thanks , but its weird given its a fresh install
[16:09] <kamilnadeem> Peace how is the font rendering on firefox on your side ?
[16:10] <kamilnadeem> well It was some site problem
[16:11] <Peace-> kamilnadeem: i am not so delicate on the font side
[16:11] <kamilnadeem> :)
[16:12] <kamilnadeem> it is good , on the previous install I had major issues with that on every browser
[16:12] <kamilnadeem> Okay will be taking your leave now , and thanks for all the help Peace
[16:12] <kamilnadeem> Peace Be With You All
[16:19] <kamilnadeem> Peace you there?
[16:21] <kamilnadeem> Peace- the desura client is not installing on Kubuntu strange as In the morning I had installed it on Ubuntu 11.10 and it worked well ?
[16:22] <kamilnadeem> oh k , this is stranger , on kubuntu it has redirected the desura installation folder to home
[16:22] <kamilnadeem> but Installation is happening , lets see
[16:41] <swapy> hi guys
[16:41] <swapy> i need your help
[16:41] <swapy> clear
[16:41] <swapy> hellooooooo
[16:42] <swapy> hi
[16:42] <kamilnadeem> please dont ask to ask , just ask
[16:43] <swapy> hello
[16:43] <kamilnadeem> well hello
[16:44] <mas_> haha
[16:44] <swapy> g
[16:44] <mas_> hey swapy
[16:46] <greywalk> hello, is there a configuration file for the digital clock widget? (I would like to change the font size used to display the time)
[16:47] <jcgs> greywalk: me too, it gets ridiculuously big when you change the size of the taskbar, doesn't it ;)
[16:48] <greywalk> jcgs: yes, i have the same problem
[16:49] <greywalk> but i am really surprised a cannot find any info on the config file for the widget on google.
[16:49] <greywalk> i cant believe there is no such file or smth
[16:52] <James147> ^^ widget settings are stored in ~/.kde/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc
[16:52] <James147> though I am not sure you can change the size of them in the panel (since they auto size them selves)
[16:52] <greywalk> and i also cannot turn off displaying events in calendar. i dont want any event :-/
[16:54] <adarshajoisa> My speaker volume keeps getting reduced to zero every now and then. Everytime I need to open alsamixer and set it back. Any idea why this is happening?
[16:56] <jcgs> James147 greywalk there is an interesting line in mine that looks like this: plainClockFont=Ubuntu,37,-1,5,50,0,0,0,0,0
[16:56] <jcgs> How could i found out what that means?
[17:00] <swapy> hi
[17:00] <swapy> clear
[17:01] <krezkey> Whats up peeps,  can anyone tell me how to set desktop icons to a grid so they are aligned
[17:01] <pvivek_> in the kubuntu home page the download 11.10 is wubi version?
[17:02] <pvivek_> I downloaded Kubuntu 11.10 to get a bootable Live Cd Version , but when i burnt the iso to cd found out that it was Wubi version :( Which is the right Live CD Bootable version of 11.10 iso image ?
[17:04] <pvivek_> Does the regular Download Section in this url http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download indicate the proper LiveCd version of Kubuntu 11.10 ? Would be very glad if someone can confirm on that
[17:21] <jcgs> pivek_ I think they are the same image. If you boot from it, it should ask you if you want to install :)
[17:21] <jcgs> pvivek: ^^
[17:22] <jcgs> krezkey: are you using desktop folder view, or do you have separate widgets for all your icons?
[17:28] <jcgs> pvivek_: yes regular download is normally the livecd, i'm just downloading the 64bit one now to check if that's right....
[17:29] <pvivek_> jcgs : And the wubi and LiveCd version cannot be both working. In fact i tried it too. Wubi version isn't bootable
[17:30] <jcgs> orly? are you sure it's not just there was a burning error or sth? what happens when you try and boot?
[17:33] <adarshajoisa> My speaker volume keeps getting reduced to zero every now and then. Everytime I need to open alsamixer and set it back. Any idea why this is happening? Sorry for posting again, but i'm in urgent need of a reply
[17:35] <jcgs> pvivek_, what happens when you try and boot?
[17:36] <pvivek_> the cd doesn't boot at all
[17:36] <pvivek_> jcgs : its not bootable
[17:38] <James147> pvivek_: do a md5sum check on the iso see if thats matches
[17:39] <pvivek_> James147 : Are you saying the iso image of WUBI version itself will be bootable?
[17:40] <James147> pvivek_: wubi is a exe file that you can install inwindows
[17:41] <pvivek_> James147 : Exactly i know
[17:41] <James147> pvivek_: so how can it be bootable?
[17:41] <pvivek_> James147: I have downloaded an ISO of Wubi Kubuntu probably by mistake or something. So i have converted it into a cd that wouldn't be bootable right. Thats exactly what i am saying it cannot be
[17:42] <pvivek_> James147: Thats why i just asked the link for the right version of the download
[17:42] <pvivek_> James147: Now i am downloading from http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download#download-block (Regular Download Version - 32 bit) hopefully its the right version
[17:43] <James147> pvivek_: the download page you linked is for the livecd and alternitive installer
[17:43]  * James147 notes that the livecd also contains the wubi exe as far as he knows
[17:44] <pvivek_> James147 : Really ? I didn't know that . Then i am redundantly downloading :( Oh no!!
[17:44] <James147> oo and there is a link for wubi on taht page :) but the "regualr down load" should be the livecd
[17:44] <James147> and the livecd should be bootable
[17:44] <similar> I just found the package sawfish, it puts windows on different workspaces when you start them. But its just for gnome. is there any way i can use anything similar on kde?
[17:46] <James147> pvivek_: not redundantly, wubi is just a small installer for windows (it either needs the iso, or needs to download it)
[18:42] <myers_> how do i downgrade to kde 3?
[18:43] <myers_> is there any distro that still uses it?
[18:43] <myers_> what distros of kubuntu used it?
[18:50] <pvivek> how do i upadate grub in kubuntu 11.10
[18:50] <pvivek> My grub is all messed up
[18:50] <pvivek> Windows loader isn't working , normal kubuntu is coming in previous linux version
[18:50] <pvivek> How to fix all the problems ? What is the command ?
[18:52] <mirrakor_> has someone followed nicolas_ problem?
[18:57] <alexdevillx> wazzup?
[19:03] <mirrakor_> hey, what would you recommend for bogofilters Berkley DB or sqlite?
[19:11] <myers_> how do i downgrade to kde 3?
[19:11] <myers_> is there any distro that still uses it?
[19:11] <myers_> what distros of kubuntu used it?
[19:12] <BluesKaj> 8.10 maybe , it's been a while
[19:15] <Torch> 8.04 even, i think.
[19:16] <Torch> myers_: effectively you can't really use kde 3 any longer.
[19:16] <Torch> myers_: IMHO there's also no real reason to do so
[19:18] <mirrakor_> well technically he could install it from source, if it's worth the troubles
[19:19] <vehemoth> mirrakor_: unless it's too deprecated
[19:20] <Torch> mirrakor_: there have been no security fixes for ages.
[19:23] <BluesKaj> myers_, may I ask why ?
[19:24] <vehemoth> is this that dolphin issue again?
[19:26] <BluesKaj> guess he's busy searching for a method
[19:41] <myers_> I like the look of it better, and my computer is old, used to run xp back in 04
[19:41] <myers_> and i have not found a way
[19:42] <myers_> is there anyway to get the look, and the sounds?
[19:43] <vehemoth> myers_:probably, have you looked on http://kde-look.org
[19:43] <myers_> yes, but i do not know how to install that kind of stuff
[19:43] <vehemoth> link, and I'll try to help you
[19:43] <vehemoth> some of them install differently
[19:44] <myers_> ok
[19:47] <myers_> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Klassik?content=117677
[19:48] <myers_> vehemoth: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Klassik?content=117677
[19:52] <vehemoth> okay, unless there is install theme in the systemsettings theme option, extract it ~/.themes or /usr/share/themes and then select it in the systemsettings
[19:52] <vehemoth> I'm gonna go have breakfast, I'll be back if you still need help
[19:54] <BarkingFish> breakfast? You lucky guy! I only had my evening meal 20 minutes ago :P
[19:54]  * BarkingFish could just go a couple of sausages, some hash browns, and a couple of pancakes with maple cured bacon on.
[19:57] <myers_> please quit talking bout food, its 3:00 here and i have not eaten yet
[19:59] <myers_> how is cent os?
[20:00] <myers_> what is the best kde distro?
[20:01] <vehemoth> myers_: people say opensuse, the only I've liked a lot is arch
[20:01]  * vehemoth slightly boring meal, cornflakes with canned mandarins
[20:02] <myers_> how do i install arch?
[20:02] <vehemoth> with a cd or usb or maybe even network
[20:02] <well_laid_lawn> and with the beginners guide open
[20:03] <myers_> ya, but it don't have a gui, i don't know how do all that termanal type stuff
[20:03] <mirrakor_> myers_: I'd vote for openSUSE too
[20:04] <myers_> ya, but it does not have a vary good software senter
[20:04] <vehemoth> myers_: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=arch the beginners guide is easy enough to follow, but arch might not be for you
[20:04] <mirrakor_> btw. someone knows where I can upload a ubuntu related package? (actually it's just a 64bit build of a package that is not available from the repo/sf.net site)
[20:04] <mirrakor_> myers_: openSUSE?
[20:04] <vehemoth> myers_: arch doesn't have a software center as far as I know, you just use the command line tool pacman
[20:05] <vehemoth> mirrakor_: ppa? or just a file drop thing?
[20:05] <myers_> is there any way to install a software center?
[20:05] <vehemoth> myers_: you can search the wiki for one, I think there's a couple unofficial ones
[20:05] <mirrakor_> vehemoth: not sure if it's worth creating a ppa, maybe it is
[20:06] <vehemoth> myers_: I don't see why that much, pacman is easy enough once you get used to it
[20:06] <vehemoth> myers_: if you don't like tinkering it might not be for you
[20:07] <myers_> ok, how is mandriva?
[20:07] <vehemoth> mirrakor_: there's a bunch of free file sharing services if that's all you want, you can also stick it on ubuntuforums sometimes
[20:08] <mirrakor_> vehemoth: yeah, I think I'll look into the ppa thing, the standard file hosters all have a time limitation, which is not that useful
[20:08] <lelamal_> hi all, when I last used Quassel, I remember that when I hovered a link I got a preview of that website. Now I don't get it. How can I enable it?
[20:08] <well_laid_lawn> try github
[20:08] <myers_> ok, how is mandriva linux?
[20:09] <vehemoth> mirrakor_: I think that's only true for ones you don't sign up to
[20:10] <vehemoth> myers_: do you have quite limited internet?
[20:11] <myers_> i don't think so
[20:11] <vehemoth> well than look on distro watch, download them, try them out and if you don't like it then try another one
[20:12] <myers_> did that, my computer is old, i need a linux, perfed KDE, that is fast and is good for an older computer
[20:12] <GirlyGirl> !well_laid_lawn:
[20:12] <vehemoth> myers_: well then arch if your game
[20:12] <myers_> ok
[20:13] <GirlyGirl> myers_: Kubuntu 11.10 is fast , besides any distro won't make a difference
[20:13] <well_laid_lawn> GirlyGirl: that's a couple of times you've done that, what's up?
[20:13] <GirlyGirl> myers_: Tweak the settings and install kubuntu-low-fat-settings
[20:13] <GirlyGirl> well_laid_lawn: 2nd time only!
[20:13] <myers_> how do i do that?
[20:13] <vehemoth> myers_: or you can try to get a complete distro and try to rip things out to lighten it
[20:14] <well_laid_lawn> GirlyGirl: a couple = 2
[20:14] <GirlyGirl> well_laid_lawn: 1) Its funny 2) I have no idea what a well_laid_lawn is
[20:14] <well_laid_lawn> heh
[20:15] <vehemoth> !ubottu
[20:16] <myers_> should i get an outdated kde like kubuntu 8.10 or something? would that would better on an old computeer?
[20:17] <vehemoth> it's out of support
[20:17] <vehemoth> you can't install software using software center
[20:17] <myers_> hmm
[20:18] <myers_> how is puppy?
[20:18] <myers_> can i install kde on that?
[20:24] <BluesKaj> myers_, what kind of specs on your pc ?
[20:24] <myers_> give me a minute
[20:26] <myers_> processor max speed 1808 storage size 149.1 gib to sticks of 512 ram, but it reads about 800 i believe
[20:27] <myers_> and graphics is like sis 660 or something
[20:27] <vehemoth> myers_: I run kde on arch on a netbook, 1gb ram, 250gb HDD 1.5ghz dual core atom
[20:27] <BluesKaj> myers_, you are on the edge but if you don't need faancy deskr top effects , a normal kubuntu install will  work just fine
[20:28] <mirrakor_> Can someone explain in a nutshell how to upload a package to ppa (I've a src dir, a build dir and also a finished .deb, but apparently ppa doesn't want it :D )
[20:28] <vehemoth> I have compositing on on my netbook :)
[20:29] <mirrakor_> if it's not possible in a nutshell, I'm already reading the packaging guide
[20:29] <myers_> would puppy linux be faster for my computer then kubuntu?
[20:30] <vehemoth> !doit
[20:30] <vehemoth> darn it, I like phrik :)
[20:31] <myers_> has any one used puppy?
[20:31] <BluesKaj> myers_, havent run puppy since 2005 , but it ran fine on an old 233mhz, with 128 md ram :)
[20:31] <vehemoth> myers_: choose the one you like working with, than get kde to work nicely with it. There's no point using puppy if you don't like the software center
[20:31] <vehemoth> if it has one that is
[20:32] <vehemoth> myers_: join #puppy
[20:32] <myers_>  join #puppy
[20:32] <myers_> how do i do that??
[20:32] <vehemoth> how did you get into #kubuntu ?
[20:32] <well_laid_lawn> try /j #puppy
[20:33] <myers_> ok thanks, bye
[21:20] <BluesKaj> google earth lies! , the 64 bit version relis on ia32=libs and multiarch support doesn't work
[21:20] <BluesKaj> relies
[21:21] <vehemoth> google picaso linux version comes with it's own wine to run
[21:21] <BluesKaj> neither does ia32
[21:25] <BluesKaj> I'll ask here too, does google-earth work on 11.10 yet for anyone ?
[21:27] <vehemoth> I have no idea
[21:27] <vehemoth> you might be better asking on #ubuntu it seems more lively
[21:28] <BluesKaj> I did already
[21:28] <vehemoth> and no response
[21:29] <BluesKaj> not yet ...don't think I'll get one either , it's surprising how few actually use GE
[21:32] <lnostdal_> anyone else seeming some package breakage/conflicts today'ish? .. i'm following the kubuntu-ppa and kubuntu-ppa/backports ppas
[21:34] <lnostdal_> or perhaps this is caused by the libreoffice ppa here ..   never mind
[21:36] <ultrixx> is koffice stable enough for production use?
[21:36] <BluesKaj> ppas aren't the best source for stable packages
[21:36] <BluesKaj> !office
[21:36] <ultrixx> !koffice
[21:36] <BluesKaj> !info office
[21:37] <BluesKaj> !libre-office
[21:37] <ultrixx> !info koffice
[21:38] <BluesKaj> gawd what's with the outdated factoids
[21:39] <BluesKaj> !libreoffice
[21:40] <BluesKaj> ultrixx, libreoffice is the new version of open office
[21:41] <ultrixx> BluesKaj: i mean KOffice
[21:41] <ultrixx> KDE Office Suite
[21:42] <BluesKaj> ultrixx, ok well ,i seldom use any of them so I'm not to well informed about their differences
[21:42] <BluesKaj> too
[21:44] <ultrixx> i was using koffice some 2 years ago and it was very unstable, almost unusable. i hope it is better now
[21:44] <ultrixx> because i like the way it is designed
[22:33] <Daskreech> ultrixx: I think it depends on which module you are using. Some have matured much faster than others
[22:33] <ultrixx> Daskreech: i used spreadsheet and "word"
[22:34] <Daskreech> ultrixx: you might want to look at Calligra
[22:34] <Daskreech> ultrixx: Those would be in the top three for gots the <3 listing
[22:34] <ultrixx> thanks
[22:36] <ultrixx> Daskreech: i can't find calligra in the packet manager. i have kubuntu 11.10
[22:37] <ultrixx> Daskreech: but i have koffice now
[22:37] <Daskreech> ultrixx: ok. Hold on
[22:38] <Daskreech> ultrixx: http://userbase.kde.org/Calligra/Download
[22:38] <ultrixx> thanks a lot
[23:44] <antonio_> hi...i'm trying to use samba but, dispite I can connect via \\xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, the pc doesn't show up in the workgroup...what's wrong?
[23:47] <hexacode> hey you guys. does cron save entries through a reboot? or do u need to dump the entries somewhere like iptables?
[23:48] <hexacode> and then reload them up
[23:49] <Daskreech> hexacode: they are saved
[23:49] <hexacode> omg thank you