[01:06] <dogmatic69_> how can i allow connecting on some port from inside a network? i can telnet from locahost but not another server :/
[01:07] <dogmatic69_> even over public i cant :(
[06:26] <tonytiger> Off to homecamp this weekend. If you're going, say hi!
[06:39] <ball> What is homecamp?
[06:43] <daubers> Morning
[06:50] <ball> mornin'
[06:54]  * daubers waits for the coffee to brew
[06:57]  * ball shouldn't drink coffee at 01:57, but it's tempting.
[07:02] <daubers> \o/ coffee
[07:18]  * daubers needs to go buy a computer headset :(
[07:19]  * ball needs to go to bed.
[07:19] <ball> ...and perhaps to buy a more modern PC.
[07:19] <daubers> heh
[07:21] <ball> Uh oh. Fork's out of bed.
[07:21] <popey> Morning all
[07:28] <MartijnVdS> \o
[07:28] <daubers> Morning canonipopey
[07:29]  * daubers wonders if klas olufson sells soldering braid
[08:11] <DaveBug> daubers: I believe it does
[08:12] <DaveBug> Morning all!
[08:52] <czajkowski> aloha
[08:54] <jacobw> morning
[09:01] <kvarley> I've just installed pidgin-skype and when I go to add my account there are two options. "Skype" and "Skype (D-Bus) What does the D-Bus option do?
[09:22] <popey> bah, memory fail
[09:25] <czajkowski> popey: what did you forget, get bacon for saturday sandwich breakfast
[09:25] <popey> hah
[09:25] <czajkowski> cause that would be fail
[09:25] <popey> forgot what gnome 3 fallback mode was called
[09:25] <popey> czajkowski: much planned in the evenings at UDS?
[09:26] <czajkowski> popey: tuesday so far for UW, after that probaly wednesday the florida loco event which is on the LD
[09:26] <popey> I happen to have a hire car
[09:26] <czajkowski> :o
[09:36] <czajkowski> i can haz bacon sandwich and tea
[09:36] <czajkowski> good start
[09:51] <feisar> I have a local .deb I'd like to install but 'dpkg -i' is not pulling in the deps should I be using ap-get?
[09:51] <feisar> *apt-get
[09:57] <nperry> feisar: apt-get install -f will fix it for you
[09:57] <nperry> If I remember rightly, don't seem to install local debs anymore
[09:58] <feisar> nperry: thanks, the repo version of OpenERP is old so I'm using the .deb from their website
[10:04] <popey> you could use gdebi
[10:04] <popey> which will pull in deps
[10:04] <popey> instead of dpkg
[10:05] <feisar> oh right cheers
[10:33] <andrewebdev> guys... my unity panels and launchers just dissapeared
[10:33] <andrewebdev> all i have is a menu bar at the top of the screen for nautilus
[10:33]  * MartijnVdS blames gord 
[10:33] <andrewebdev> problem persists when I restart
[10:38] <andrewebdev> anyone know what the Binary is called for compiz-config-settings manager?
[10:39] <MartijnVdS> ccsm
[10:39] <MartijnVdS> but that tends to break things worse, not fix them
[10:39] <MartijnVdS> (For me anyway)
[10:39] <AlanBell> unity --reset can sometimes help a bit
[10:39] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: I had a crash that wasn't even fixed by that yesterday
[10:40] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: had to log out, remove all traces of compiz/unity from ~/.compiz, ~/.config etc.
[10:40] <MartijnVdS> and then it worked again
[10:40] <MartijnVdS> for some reason the unity-panel-services wouldn't start
[10:40] <AlanBell> yeah, if you use ccsm unity tends to get it's revenge on you in the end
[10:41]  * MartijnVdS wonders why they didn't work _with_ compiz but _against_ it
[10:41] <AlanBell> I just had to enable a different alt-tab switcher, the unity one is not working for me at all
[10:41] <MartijnVdS> I mean they might not accept their patches back but at least test your code
[10:41] <andrewebdev> yeah that's why it started to break :(
[10:41] <andrewebdev> I enabled the unity plugin again now
[10:41] <andrewebdev> and now it's all back
[10:41] <AlanBell> I have no idea why the unity switcher wasn't done in a separate plugin like all the other switchers
[10:44]  * AlanBell has reconfigured nearly all the IKEA stuff in the house in a big swap
[10:45] <AlanBell> which means I now have a big drawer and shelving unit in my office that I previously painted with glitter paint when it was in a small person's bedroom
[10:48] <AlanBell> and a 50cm deep IVAR unit sideways fits 19" rackmount servers perfectly
[10:51] <MartijnVdS> so do LACK tables
[11:25] <dwatkins> I'm off to Ikea today to get Ivar shelves for my box room. I'm hoping I can cut them up to completely fill the space.
[11:27] <AlanBell> they are quite cuttable
[11:27] <AlanBell> the uprights are, no point cutting shelves
[11:29] <gordonjcp> AlanBell: I'm somewhat annoyed they discontinued a lot of the useful bits
[11:40] <danfish> IVAR? LACK? It's like you are all speaking a foreign language :P
[11:43] <penguin42> if you're going to cut them why not just go to B&Q and get contiplas cut to size?
[11:50] <dwatkins> penguin42: I might, yes. Having one pre-cut unit is fine, as it'll fit, the rest of the space isn't quite right for full sized units
[11:51] <penguin42> (although I could believe that Ikea might be cheaper for planks to cut)
[11:53] <dwatkins> The Ivar units are 1720x500mm, the room itself has a door in the centre of one long side and measures 1240x2270mm
[11:54] <gordonjcp> I want to shorten an Ivar shelf by about 150mm
[11:56] <dwatkins> It looks like cutting the Ivar units might not work so well, as one end of each shelf appears to be routed.
[11:57] <AlanBell> can be done, but some non-trivial machining to get the metal out and re-cut a new edge
[11:57] <dwatkins> The single Ivar units are less deep, that might help.
[11:58]  * dwatkins gets out some paper to cut up
[11:59] <gordonjcp> AlanBell: well, it's not *particularly* routed
[11:59] <gordonjcp> you could knock the metal out by bending the tangs up with a paint scraper
[12:00] <gordonjcp> then just make a saw cut down the end once you've cut and reshaped it
[12:00] <gordonjcp> I modified a 500mm deep shelf to fit a 300mm pair of uprights, to make a TV stand
[12:01] <gordonjcp> with a short 300mm upright lying on its side under the front of the shelf to support the weight of the CRT
[12:01] <dwatkins> heh, my TV stand is an Effektiv unit, also from Ikea ;)
[12:02] <dwatkins> They don't seem to have the individual units on their website, though.
[12:30] <neuronlunch> anyone good with touchpads... ?
[14:15] <danfish> afternoon all
[14:15] <danfish> the better half wants a new phone (not iphone)
[14:15] <danfish> was thinking of a wildfire s
[14:15] <danfish> anyone got any comments/experience with one
[14:15] <danfish> ?
[14:16] <dwatkins> What does she want out of her phone, danfish? Keyboard, big display, fast cpu etc.?
[14:18] <penguin42> pink case? Swarovsky crystals....
[14:22] <mattt> afternoon
[14:22] <MartijnVdS> \o mattman
[14:22] <MartijnVdS> matttman even
[14:39] <mattt> MartijnVdS: up to anything exciting today?  :)
[14:39] <MartijnVdS> I've been playing with Wi-Spy, a GPS-dongle, my laptop and Kismet
[14:40] <danfish> dwatkins: not too much - not an overly large phone - just for email,facebook and calls
[14:40] <matti> MartijnVdS: ;)
[14:41] <MartijnVdS> now to plot everything on a map..
[14:43] <dwatkins> danfish: I have an HTC Ace (aka Desire HD) and it's got quite a large screen. The smaller HTC Desire is rather good too.
[14:45] <danfish> dwatkins: I've got the Desire myself and am happy with it (though running cyanogen). My wife thinks it too big though :(
[14:47] <dwatkins> danfish: just asked a friend of mine which she has, as her phone is very small but still fully functional
[14:52]  * MartijnVdS has the Galaxy Nexus on pre-order
[15:00] <nperry> MartijnVdS: What price have you pre-ordered it out?
[15:02] <MartijnVdS> nperry: £520-ish at clove.co.uk
[15:03] <nperry> Reckon it would drop, as I have seen some higher prices then that.
[15:03] <MartijnVdS> SUre, they'll be cheap in a year
[15:04] <MartijnVdS> but I need a new phone now(ish)
[15:04] <dwatkins> danfish: ah, she says it's the Desire Z she has, but it's not so small and may not be available anymore
[15:10] <SuprEngr> Super Engineer is now Billy Baker on G+... damn their real names policy !  :}
[15:10] <MartijnVdS> SuprEngr: there are 500.000.000 Billy Bakers on G+
[15:10] <Azelphur> SuprEngr: same, it's so stupid lol
[15:11] <Azelphur> there are far, far more people that know me as Azelphur than as my real name
[15:11] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: Even your parents! :P
[15:11]  * penguin42 thought they were going to change the rules
[15:11] <Azelphur> huh? o.O
[15:11] <shauno> don't be silly, people's parents don't use g+ :)
[15:11] <SuprEngr> yep! dasft... but it took 3 name changes (chances?) before they'd allow my real name!
[15:12]  * penguin42 wonders if there are any people who really have single names that have managed to register
[15:13] <SuprEngr> ...so like many others, I'm now on there as a name nobody knows!
[15:13] <SuprEngr> G= executive board meeting total script:  "doh!"
[15:14]  * penguin42 is wondering what to do with his work google apps account, it's now got G+ enabled, but that would mean there would be two of me, and that would confuse me
[15:15] <SuprEngr> penguin42,  sounds like a good plan.... doctor, penguin42 is ready for his appointment ;)
[15:15] <dwatkins> danfish: how about the Wildfire?
[15:15] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: I had 2 G+ accounts, so I deleted the non-APps one
[15:16] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: But I wouldn't do normal commenting and stuff on a work apps account one
[15:16] <MartijnVdS> ah work
[15:16] <MartijnVdS> I have my own domain in apps
[15:17] <penguin42> so you can share stuff with yourself?
[15:17] <MartijnVdS> so it's more a "family" apps account
[15:17] <MartijnVdS> no with my parents, brothers, sister, etc.
[15:19] <nperry> Hmm the Natwest & RBS android apps look nice, shame I bank with Halifax...
[15:19]  * nperry waits
[15:23] <Azelphur> penguin42: they finally allow G+ on google apps?
[15:23] <penguin42> Azelphur: Yeh as of a few days ago
[15:23] <Azelphur> nice, same predicament as you then
[15:24] <MartijnVdS> you can enable it on the Apps control panel
[15:24] <MartijnVdS> s/can/have to/
[15:27] <Azelphur> k fun, wonder what I'm supposed to do now then
[15:27] <Azelphur> I have a google plus account and a youtube account on @gmail.com that I'd ideally like to move
[15:28] <Azelphur> and adsense, then I wouldn't have to account hop all the time
[15:29] <MartijnVdS> Azelphur: I can change the google account that's linked to my Youtube account
[15:29] <Azelphur> yea I just read that, will try it :D
[15:29] <shauno> 'account hopping' doesn't bug me too much, but I wish it'd remember which acct I use for each service
[15:31]  * penguin42 doesn't have a problem with hopping - I don't use my home account on my work computer
[15:31] <Azelphur> MartijnVdS: apparently I can't, because I didn't create my youtube account prior to may 2009
[15:31] <Azelphur> :/
[15:32] <MartijnVdS> Aww
[15:34] <RaycisCharles> Jimmy Saville is dead.
[15:34] <penguin42> RaycisCharles: He couldn't fix that
[15:34] <RaycisCharles> I'm too young to know wth he is.
[15:34] <RaycisCharles> He was on HIGNFY years ago.
[15:34] <penguin42> RaycisCharles: Was well known DJ, presenter of childrens TV prog, and general nutter
[15:35] <RaycisCharles> Ah, I see.
[15:35] <RaycisCharles> He wore yellow tracksuits and chunky gold slabs around his neck.
[15:35] <penguin42> yeh
[15:36] <penguin42> somewhat eccentric but mostly harmlessly
[15:37] <RaycisCharles> I dunno, he could be a paedo.
[15:37] <Azelphur> penguin42: figured it out yet?
[15:37] <penguin42> what?
[15:37] <Azelphur> (16:13:49) ***penguin42 is wondering what to do with his work google apps account, it's now got G+ enabled, but that would mean there would be two of me, and that would confuse me
[15:38] <penguin42> Azelphur: I'm not wondering that hard - and it's weekend
[15:38] <shauno> nah, he just dressed dodgy because he was a 70s relic
[15:38] <Azelphur> :P
[15:38] <Azelphur> I'm trying to find out
[15:55] <MartijnVdS> Bwahaha http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-15494984
[15:57] <AlanBell> won't happen
[15:58] <MartijnVdS> It gets proposed every few years though
[15:58] <AlanBell> political suicide
[15:59] <AlanBell> if they did it then it would probably be safer overall and generally better
[15:59] <AlanBell> however . . .
[15:59] <AlanBell> every single road crash in the morning would be blamed on the change
[15:59] <AlanBell> whether or not it would have happened anyway. It will be pictures in the papers and politicians blamed for deaths
[16:00] <MartijnVdS> yay sensationalist UK media ;)
[16:00] <AlanBell> yeah
[16:04] <AlanBell> you just can't put a picture in the paper of a lorry crash not happening in the afternoon that would otherwise have occurred :)
[16:04] <MartijnVdS> just do it gradually
[16:04] <MartijnVdS> Five minutes per summer/winter time switchover ;)
[16:05] <AlanBell> 30 seconds per day :)
[16:05] <MartijnVdS> or that :)
[16:05] <AlanBell> I can see no fault in your logic there :)
[16:05] <shauno> I think they should just fix europe instead :)
[16:09] <MartijnVdS> technically "we" (= the Netherlands) would be better on UK time
[16:10] <MartijnVdS> Time difference between Greenwich and Amsterdan is about 19 minutes ("noon")
[16:10] <MartijnVdS> I blame trains and Germany ;)
[16:10] <shauno> I'm mostly unsure what they're trying to solve.  If you find it difficult to account for a ±1hr timezone difference, there's bigger issues
[16:11] <MartijnVdS> shauno: But what if you calculate it the wrong way around and arrive 2 hours early (or late!)?!
[16:11] <penguin42> IMHO it's a much bigger disadvantage that we'd be one hour further out from the US which would make meetings harder
[16:11] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: making meetings with the US harder sounds like a GOOD thing to me
[16:11] <penguin42> MartijnVdS: Well if we have to have them, then having them at silly hours is not good
[16:13] <MartijnVdS> you'll be a time zone closer to India though
[16:13] <MartijnVdS> so more call centres could move
[16:15] <shauno> outsourced call centers don't tend to care what timezone they're supporting
[16:15] <MartijnVdS> shauno: I imagine they're cheaper if they're "closer", time-zone wise
[16:15] <MartijnVdS> because of fewer night shifts
[16:16] <shauno> I guess that'd have to assume that night shifts are renumerated similarily around the world
[16:17] <diplo> Evening all
[16:18] <diplo> Anyone recommend any regex tutorials, basically have a fair few avi files with text in them that i want to rename in bulk if poss
[16:18] <diplo> Regex never been my strong point
[16:19] <MartijnVdS> diplo: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596528126.do
[16:20] <MartijnVdS> diplo: or maybe http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596520694.do
[16:20] <matti> ;]
[16:30] <shauno> I just remembered everything breaks tonight \o/
[16:31] <mgdm> You're upgrading to Oneiric?
[16:31] <shauno> nah, I stick to LTS
[16:32] <shauno> but this daylight savings nonsense breaks every single year.  without fail
[16:32] <mgdm> I've never had a problem with it breaking things
[16:33] <shauno> our nortel server is in the states, so it wants to switch DST off next week, not this week
[16:34] <mgdm> ah
[16:48] <geekMePlease> Is there any device to copy one SSD to many SSDs?
[16:48] <geekMePlease> * I want to have one clean 11.10 always as a backup in another SSD
[16:49] <Azelphur> are they all the same make and model of SSD?
[16:49] <geekMePlease> Azelphur: Yes, OCZ Agility 3
[16:49] <geekMePlease> 60gb
[16:49] <Azelphur> geekMePlease: very easy to do with dd
[16:49] <geekMePlease> Azelphur: How?
[16:49] <Azelphur> dd if=/path/to/ubuntu of=/path/to/destinationdrive
[16:50] <Azelphur> be careful to get it right, it'll entirely overwrite the destination drive with the contents of the ubuntu drive, they will be exactly the same.
[16:53] <geekMePlease> I have only x60 currently. Is there any base-station like for USB to get many SSDs connected to your laptop?
[16:53] <geekMePlease> DX seems to have http://www.dealextreme.com/p/dual-hdd-usb-3-0-docking-station-for-2-5-3-5-sata-hdd-ssd-94300 at least
[16:54] <Azelphur> geekMePlease: USB + SSD = terrible idea
[16:55] <geekMePlease> Azelphur: yes, I look now for basestations with firewire
[16:55] <Azelphur> firewire is the same
[16:55] <Azelphur> if you want to utilize the speed from your SSDs, sata or eSATA
[16:56] <geekMePlease> Azelphur: can you convert your internal memory-card reader of x60 to sata drive?
[16:56] <Azelphur> huh?
[16:56] <AlanBell> usb3 is pretty quick isn't it?
[16:56] <AlanBell> if you have a usb3 port that is
[16:57] <geekMePlease> AlanBell: I have 1.5
[16:57] <Azelphur> AlanBell: not as quick as a SSD
[16:57] <geekMePlease> AlanBell: sorry, I mean usb 2
[16:57] <geekMePlease> 2 usb 2 and one usb 1
[16:58] <shauno> if it's just a one-off job to image a disk, I wouldn't worry about the bus too much
[16:58] <AlanBell> ok
[16:59] <geekMePlease> shauno: ok, I will then get simply the usb + ssd thing
[16:59] <geekMePlease> to copy a few ssds
[16:59] <Azelphur> ah, just looked it up, USB 3 is ok
[16:59] <Azelphur> USB 2 will bottleneck on a decent SSD though
[17:00] <geekMePlease> Azelphur: Ok, I will get usb 3 base station then, since I update my laptop in the future
[17:00] <shauno> usb2 will bottleneck pretty much anything.  It's pretty ugly really
[17:07] <geekMePlease> there seems to be USB3 adaptors for X60 and X61 Thinkpad, need to get one
[17:09] <Azelphur> :)
[17:33] <diplo> heh cheers MartijnVdS, sorry kids went manic
[17:34] <diplo> I will take a look at buying that but something for tonight whilst the kids are in bed, will take a google around
[19:30] <daubers> urgh, sorting out my warhammer spares, got an awful lot more than I thought I did
[19:49] <czajkowski> peeka boo
[19:49] <AlanBell> o/ czajkowski
[20:03] <Myrtti> popey: mind the snakes in FL
[20:04] <bigcalm> Good evening peeps :)
[20:25] <SuprEngr> hmmm... freezing earthworms males them easier to sharpen...  double hmmm
[20:26] <SuprEngr> [quess what I've dot on tv]
[20:26] <SuprEngr> got
[20:29] <bigcalm> Dust?
[20:29] <SuprEngr> ;)
[20:33]  * SuprEngr is glad that someone thinks even my dust is important enough to be spelt with a capital 'D'
[20:35] <SuprEngr> [hope my ashes are given same respect]
[20:40] <MartijnVdS> qixl time!
[20:51] <SuprEngr> cheers m
[20:51] <SuprEngr> M
[20:52] <SuprEngr> cheers MartijnVdS  - switchin now
[20:54] <Myrtti> oh man
[20:54] <SuprEngr> ...and to think that some peeps are out there watching news & documentaries - when QI   & HIGNFY are both on
[20:55] <Myrtti> I may have miscalculated the shrinkage of my selfmade knitted to-be-homefelted hot water bottle covers
[20:55] <SuprEngr> ouch!
[20:56] <Myrtti> may end up with mobile phone pouches instead
[20:58]  * SuprEngr wants a hand knitted mobile phone pouch ;)
[20:59] <SuprEngr> [but wonders if a hand knitted mobile phone would work!]
[20:59] <Myrtti> options are pink, and pink-dark brown-gray stripes
[21:00] <SuprEngr> anythinthing but the pink-on-pink would do nicely please
[21:02] <SuprEngr> ...so here we are  - on a UK support channel - talking hand knitted mobile phone pouches... that's the beauty of U_UK ;)
[21:04] <SuprEngr> [& I still want one pretty please]
[21:14] <luigi_> hello
[21:18] <Myrtti> lets see what size they end up in first
[21:20] <luigi_> which program can i use in a tv media usb?
[21:22] <Myrtti> luigi_: huh?
[21:22] <luigi_> yes I have tv tuner
[21:23] <luigi_> but which program can i use?
[21:24] <SuprEngr> luigi_, what do the files on the usb have as a suffix [xxxx.suffix]
[21:24] <luigi_> ?
[21:24] <luigi_> i dunno
[21:24] <luigi_> because i have a usb
[21:24] <luigi_> tv tunner USB
[21:24] <luigi_> and it doesnt recognise
[21:24] <SuprEngr> luigi_, can you see the files in nautilus?
[21:25] <luigi_> im sorry xD
[21:25] <luigi_> i dunno how to do that
[21:25] <luigi_> :(
[21:26] <SuprEngr> luigi_, put the usb in a usb 'socket' on your computer
[21:26] <luigi_> ok
[21:26] <luigi_> then?
[21:26] <SuprEngr> does anything happen? [wait a few seconds]
[21:27] <luigi_> nop
[21:27] <MartijnVdS> luigi_: check /var/log/kern.log
[21:27] <luigi_> do i have to type that in terminal?
[21:27] <MartijnVdS> luigi_: can you put the last 20 or so lines from that on pastebin?
[21:27] <luigi_> yes
[21:27] <luigi_> what is the webpage
[21:27] <SuprEngr> ...over to you MartijnVdS
[21:27] <luigi_> i forget
[21:27] <MartijnVdS> luigi_: just open the "Log viewer"
[21:28] <MartijnVdS> it's in the application search thing
[21:28] <luigi_> ok
[21:28] <luigi_> im inside the log viewer
[21:29] <MartijnVdS> open kern.log
[21:29] <MartijnVdS> then browse to the end
[21:29] <mattt> woo
[21:29] <MartijnVdS> and open a web browser
[21:29] <mattt> just realized we're not that far off from fosdem 2012
[21:29] <MartijnVdS> and paste the last few lines on pastebin
[21:29] <MartijnVdS> mattt: 3/4 months
[21:29]  * mattt punches the air
[21:30] <luigi_> ok
[21:30] <MartijnVdS> !pastebin
[21:30] <lubotu3`> For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.
[21:30] <luigi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/722673/
[21:30] <mattt> MartijnVdS: you're in holland right?
[21:30] <MartijnVdS> mattt: I am
[21:31] <mattt> going to fosdem?
[21:31] <MartijnVdS> luigi_: The last line says a new USB device is found, but there's nothing about drivers loading
[21:31] <luigi_> nop
[21:31] <luigi_> yeah i saw that
[21:31] <MartijnVdS> luigi_: so I'm afraid you're out of luck, and that specific tuner isn't supported
[21:31] <MartijnVdS> mattt: maybe
[21:31] <luigi_> no ? :(
[21:31] <luigi_> can i use windows emulator?
[21:32] <MartijnVdS> luigi_: for drivers, very unlikely
[21:32] <MartijnVdS> mattt: it's only a 2 hour drive
[21:32] <luigi_> :(
[21:32] <mattt> MartijnVdS: no excuses then :D
[21:34] <MartijnVdS> mattt: I don't know about parking space :)
[21:35] <MartijnVdS> in Brussels
[21:38] <MartijnVdS> that's my new problem ;)
[21:38] <MartijnVdS> Before, I knew I could get there (by train), but couldn't take much stuff
[21:39] <MartijnVdS> Now I have a car, and I can take stuff, but I don't know where to park it :)
[21:41] <SuprEngr> MartijnVdS, take a car sized suitcase... book into a hotel & take it to the room with you ;)
[21:41] <MartijnVdS> SuprEngr: well it _is_ a SMART
[21:41] <SuprEngr> ;)
[21:41] <MartijnVdS> SuprEngr: so it'd probably fit in the elevator without changes
[21:42] <SuprEngr> MartijnVdS, forget the suitcase... a rucksack will do for a SMART
[21:44] <SuprEngr> time for bed, said Zebedee.... boing said Florence
[21:44] <MartijnVdS> good idea
[21:44] <MartijnVdS> but..
[21:44] <MartijnVdS> tonight's an hour longer than usual
[21:44] <MartijnVdS> also, F1 tomorrow mornig
[21:44] <MartijnVdS> +n
[21:45] <SuprEngr> and Indian F1 on in morning is reason for beddy bies for me now ;)
[21:45] <MartijnVdS> \o
[21:45] <mattt> MartijnVdS: it's residential around that FOSDEM venue tho, parking shouldn't be a problem
[21:46] <MartijnVdS> mattt: good point
[21:46] <SuprEngr> ;)
[21:47] <mattt> woah, 11 PM already
[21:48] <MartijnVdS> mattt: -1 because of the time zone change tonight
[22:11] <Myrtti> well
[22:11] <Myrtti> they're too big to be phone pouches
[22:12] <Myrtti> but my Sony Reader PRS-650 fits nicely
[22:30] <diplo> If anyone is about, can anyone recommend a cheap gigabit switch
[22:30] <diplo> ?
[22:30] <penguin42> no, but there are loads about
[22:31] <diplo> yeah, seen lots just after recommendations really.. got to go in front room so would like it quiet
[22:32] <diplo> I've got quite a few switches at home incl a GS724T but it's loud as you like
[22:33] <penguin42> how many ports?
[22:34] <diplo> 8 I reckon, just found this... wondering whether is cheap is a bad idea
[22:34] <diplo> Always had named products
[22:34] <diplo> http://www.ebuyer.com/262942-tp-link-tl-sg1008d-8-port-gigabit-switch-tl-sg1008d
[22:35] <diplo> http://www.ebuyer.com/260471-cisco-linksys-se2800-8-port-gigabit-switch-se2800-uk
[22:35] <diplo> £15 dearer :/ - Problem is things are tight but can't see the point if it's going to be shite
[22:40] <penguin42> it depends what you want it for; if it's just a distribution switch for stuff then one of the little desktop switches will do
[22:41] <diplo> yeah basically got a HP Microserver/Revo/Desktop/Lappy all with Gig ports and everything running on 100mb
[22:41] <diplo> :)
[22:41] <diplo> Stream all my movies / series from the HP box to the revo
[22:42] <Azelphur> apparently we have cold fusion now o.O http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-10/29/rossi-success
[22:43] <penguin42> hmm
[22:45] <diplo> nice
[22:45] <penguin42> it's a bit odd Rossi has been doing odd demonstrations for a while but never enough or open enough to convince people
[22:46] <mattt> MartijnVdS: ah, true .. forgot about the tz change
[22:50] <diplo> blimey, carriage is nearly the same as the price of the switch